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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My body voice.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Right there for the punchline. Oh my goodness, were you
a Black Saba fan?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah? I was.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I know, contrary to what people believe, you know, going
growing up in the Inner City wasn't something like Black
Sabbath was just blasted in my inner city community. But
once I kind of got into sports. And that's crazy
because it was sports that kind of introduced me to
a lot of the bands that I listened now, like
even Metallica, And obviously now due to the Marvel movies,
(00:37):
my kids are into Black Sabbath because of the Iron
Man movies. Yeah, you know, so it's great and I
and I love it because it's wild.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That my kids.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Introduction or love affair with certain musical groups or individuals
come from watching movies.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, a lot of that stuff reintroduces a lot of stuff.
I mean, the Guardians of Galaxy reduced the out of
the seventies and eighties songs.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Still a lot of people as well.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Benjamin all Bright, Dick Ferguson in for Ryan Edwards and
Dave Logan.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Dave's battling some vocal stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We got to get him set for for the season,
and Ryan's just you know, taking a DVA day off.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know, something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ryan and Ryan enjoying concerts at Red I'm going to go, yeah,
posting all these concerts of Red Rocks, and he's going
to well, it's real manner in here, working. Somebody's got
to hold down therebody.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So actually he's looking to find one of those a sweatshirt, right,
and we.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Know he likes to wear the flannel.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The flannel. Yeah, flannel hoodie, that's what he's looking.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He's looking for a Mumford And I mean, yeah, I'm
pretty sure there's plenty of flannel there.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And ironic mustaches there.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You don't like muffort is done, I mean all right,
yeah right, so really, I mean it's okay, better better
say it's not your thing. Probably like if I had
if I happened to have had it, we of course
get those right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I had free tickets this show. I would have
gone to the show. But I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I wouldn't have like I would have gone out of
my way.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hits Toto, you know obviously, you know, for my money.
When they bless the rains down in Africa. Uh no,
I mean that's all right, it's not that's not bad
at all. I don't have anything against them, it's just
not you know, if it's on the radio, I'm not
changing the radio station.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But it's not I'm not seeking it out on my playlist.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That's one of those bands that I never thought that
I would end up liking.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But it is a band that I do like. They
have some They got some catchy songs.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Of course, they did the They did the theme music
for ted Lasso. Yeah, that the theme song for ted Lasso.
That's Marcus Mumpforts.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
They also released a song with Pharrell last year. Yeah,
pretty good. This is something about that benjo. But you
benjo in there? Give me that? Well, you don't.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You don't want too much banjo, right, you don't want
too much.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You want just by itself. You gotta. I got a
favor the prescription. It's more bad jo. Oh oh, five six, six,
nine years.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's actually a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
To get to this. Our chance one thousand dollars. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
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I just want to stick around for that. Obviously, we've
been we've been I want say, celebrating the life of Ozzie.
I guess a little bit today since we found out
earlier we had welcome Jamal Warner pass away. Was it yesterday?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
THEO, Hawkstable and Malcolm and Eddie I think were the
biggest things.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Most things.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Probably people probably remember him for. Uh he was on
a show called Jericho. I remember him him being on that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
See.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think that was a little before Grand's time, obviously, when.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Mike grew up on the reruns of The Conzee.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The reruns, and I was explaining it to my kids
yesterday because it was just like, man, why are you
responding the way that you are?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What happened? I had to explain to them what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And I show my son a clip one of my
favorite clips of The Cosby Show because for me it
was great growing up. You know, my father wasn't around,
so I got a glimpse of what family would or
should look like watching The Cosby Show. And it was
one scene where THEO had cheated on his girlfriend Justine,
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and his father pulled out the Blues album and he
was saying, like, you want her back. You can't use
a poem, I mean, you got to you gotta dig
down deep, right, and he was going see just Stan
and he was like no, no, no, no, no, no boy.
He was like, no, boy, you gotta dig deep. I
mean writing poems and saying you're sorry it is not enough.
But it was that particular moment, and it was one
(04:40):
of the better father son moments of those two characters,
Cliff Huxible and Theo Huxable. And and I posted it
on social media because that's how I will always remember,
you know, Milchcael, Jamar and Wanner and that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Character in that role.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
By the way, Jeremiah not Jericho, was the name of
the show that he was that he was on. Newer
younger kids may remember him from Community. He did four
episodes of Community where he was surely Bennet's ex husband.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, he's so he's if you were if you watch
the show Community, the Joe mckill show, he was in there.
And it's funny because he wears a Cosby sweater and
he said in the show and he says, I.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Got it from my dad, like he got this. He said,
I got so like a sound nod back to that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, I mean, I gotta have to go back and
look at that, because when you said that, I was like,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Remember him on the community.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah he was Andre was his name in that one,
but he was in like it's like three episode, maybe
four episodes.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I love this show, so I have to go back,
but I think it's three or four episodes, you know,
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But yeah, it's just with the you know, you know
how stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Happens in bunches, or seems to happen in bunches, you know.
And uh we Macchael Jamal wandered drowned in a riptide
current off the coast of Costa Rica and Asie were
passing away today as well, so you.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Know, you know, what it say is really quickly, you know,
Van and Grant, is that we are encountered people in
a lives all the time. And we see celebrities and
it seems as though they're so far away from our
ordinary lives, but we have to realize that they are
people too. And I try to get fans to remember
this when they were talking about theirs their favorite sports
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team or sports figures, that maybe that guy didn't have
a great gain that that particular game, but don't destroy
them in the way that in society that things have
come to be because they have a mom, they have kids.
All this stuff plays a role. So hopefully this put
things in perspective that life is so precious and we
need to cherish every.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Moment of it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, absolutely got a lot of stuff to uh to
get to here on the show today. Obviously, UH trading
camps sort of kicked off a little bit today. You know,
practice that'll start tomorrow, but we did get to hear
from uh Certan and Mike McGlinchey a little bit of
what they they had. Patzer Tan has gone full speaking
cliche mode. By the way, I don't know if you've
seen the give It one hundred and how has that changed.
(07:02):
That's not how he's always been. Yeah, but I mean
it's like it's so much more so.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Did he go to the Russell Wilson School.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Oh, it's not the toxic positivity, but he's Yeah, he
says he's not slogan.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He's not your slogan guy.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You just gotta believe it's what's wrong with being like
one of those tongue in cheek type guys.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, Like the rush thing was weird because when he
was on the sidelines of the Troy gamming. You just
gotta believe, fellows, just gotta believe Russ. We're down twenty
one points with eight minutes left with like there's no
amount of belief.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Get a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I don't think that that's fair for Russ or anyone else,
because that's the art of being a leader, like like
the quarterbacks are propped it up on a pedestal and
like they're the faces of the franchise. And if a
guy is just kind of walking down and sitting at
the end of the bitch like Jay Cutler used to
do when we played together when our team was down,
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that was frowned upon. But even though you were down
and being able to get guys going, that's.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Part of it because that's what Jake Plumber used to do.
But that's okay. But that's what makes Jacob.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's not some systemagmatic slogan over here. That's not the
aloofness of Cutler over here, Jake Plumber in real passion
for the game, Like you get down there getting it okay, guys,
tell me what I tell me what I.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Can do better so we can get us there. Yeah,
I don't know that's fair. Are you saying this wasn't
an authentic moment?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Broncos Country, Let's rob Broncos Country.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Let's right, Broncos Country right.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
No, you did Giants Country Listen.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I get it. It's almost damned if you do your
damn if you don't.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And when you are propped up as often as a
starting quarterback in the league, is I mean to me,
there's gonna be a little redundancy with certain things. And
then also, I mean, you want to speak your mind,
but also you have to be a little strategic.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
In how you do that. Do you not? I think so?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But I think there's an authentic way to do it,
and it's well, there's that's the easiest way to get
the point across. The better way to say it would be,
I think you can do something that's more relatable to
the people you're talking to, because saying Broncos Country lest ride,
let's not get the fact that you fired up, that
you're gonna go jack somebody up right after Russ comes
out k Nick Let's ride.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It wouldn't work for me.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But once again, understanding, there are on a given day
this forty seven forty nine players that dress for regular
season game. And obviously the quarterback you know, is the
guy that everyone cheers.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
They usually they get the biggest scream.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And you gotta find something that you feel not just
motivate your teammates, but kind.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Of motivate you.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So even though the whole thing what Russ was saying
didn't motivate everyone else, but it's probably something.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
For him, just like PS two. Right, he's been around.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He's watched other guys who thinks his dad has played
in his league. And I'm sure whether he was told
directly indirectly. When you go up to that podum podium,
you're gonna be asked a barrage of questions.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Before you answer, think first, think.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
About the person who's asking you, because speak generically.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Don't give him anything. I know I did. Everything works,
but I mean that's the safest way to do it
right obviously, But.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm going I'm going back to I'm going back to
this in game thing like if you know, if Russell
Wilson comes.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Up to you, come on Nick's ride, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't listen to listen to Monte Jordan from nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Wait, brag, you didn't say it's not just how he
said it, it was how being kind of looked at me,
give me this Scooter McGavin kind of a weak right,
That's that's what he kind of gave to him. He's like, no, no,
and not in next trick.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
If it's me and I'm going up there and I'm
having a bad day, right, I need the defense that
I'm getting up a fellas, I'm trash today, all right,
I've been trash all game. I tell you what, you
go give me the ball. Go get me the ball
one more time, and I'll make sure I get us
in there. I'll get us over the hill. You go
get go, get me the ball, and I'll get you
in there. Like Jared Goff in that episode of Quarterback
when he had through like five interceptions, they still found
a way to.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Win the game. The worst case scenario all on me.
But you give me the ball one more time, I'm
gonna win this game. You just quote the.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Defensive coordinator form, Remember the Titans, you plicks all night?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Remember well once.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Again, okay, I can understand that, But the one thing
you would never want your quarterback to say, your pseudo leader,
is that, well, I was trash for the first three quarters.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
No no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Done. Today I was sticking it up. But I'll get
you know, take accountability today. Obviously it's not my day.
I'm struggling a little. I just need you guys to
pull me along, like you said, like Jake would always say,
give me the ball back and I'll do something with it.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes, But I mean that's what made Jake a great
leader that you got to right. I mean, it's obvious,
like you on the other sideline or you know, on
the other side of the ball, you know that your
quarterback is playing like trash, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Okay, here's Here's a wild thing about playing this game
is that you know that maybe the play calling that
day sucked, right, you know that a couple of players.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Didn't pull their first fare the way, But.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
When you get in that locker room, you can't really
say that. Now. Also, I know this too as well,
and I learned this dealing with a very tough media
group in New York with the Jets.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I mean, here, endeavor, they're pound puppies.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But I still had that in the back of my
mind because when something happens on the field, you have
certain individuals in this media who are looking for sound bites,
so they know which guy who's gonna be on edge,
who's gonna be disgrunted, and you go right to him first,
and he's gonna say something that I know.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
The PR group's gonna be like, no, No, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Say that, and they go right to that person, and
now you've started a controversy, and it's like, no, we've
been in games.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We watch games.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We know that someone when the coach did not call
the right play, or a player didn't play well.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He threw the ball, whatever it is, we all would
know that. But to try.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
To spark more of the antagonism by speaking into it, No,
that was the one thing that you don't do with
a mice and a hand coastine well, and I get that.
You don't throw you guys under the bus to the media.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Wasn't getting get in the house in a car with
you in the group?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Chat's different. We love Russ off this one definitely. Kid
five six six nine zero is the text on a
lot of good texts coming in. Uh. Somebody here says
Ben likes to clown on people he isn't a fan
of like Russ and shown I like Russ just fine.
I just you know, I find it's like I would
not be motivated by his pep talks. I like to
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pump up people he likes, like the Cardinals and the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Look.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes, it's no secret that I know John Gannon, I
know Brian Shottenneimer, and I like those guys because they're
you know, my friends.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So you know whatever, not.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Always a but the product on the field just based
on who he likes personally. Uh, but hey, we still
like listen to him. Well, I appreciate that man. Nothing
better than a hate listen.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, you know, hate me harder? Yes, hate hate, hate hate.
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Someone nine Russ was that guy in middle school with
a squeaky voice. Come on, guys, like coach said, we
just still come back.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We do our best.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Listen, man, we once again we hit step on guys
for being who they are, even if we don't agree
with them. And that's not part of our personality. Because
that texta right there and talking about I've been around
guys who have had I guess seft spoken as a
leader and their voices may have sounded like that, and
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so it sounds awkward coming from a person like that.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And in some players that to but he was a dog.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yes. Once again, each guy is different. There is a
different leadership.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Stop. Do you would you want someone to constantly yell
and scream at you and brate you.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, but you gotta find you gotta find that happy medium.
You got to find that balance and you got to
find accountability in that too. You got to be able
to say, look, hey, so me today, I wouldn't able
to put up the points we need, but you get
me the ball back and I'll get us over.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'll get us over the finish line. I mean that
that's great.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And for me, I mean my high school coach was
a throwback coach, had Georgia Leary throwback coach Bill Parcells
that were like, yeah, you use the coaches that were
eating your lunch all the time. Yes. And it got
to a point, man, when you heard so much of
it that I mean, it didn't really bother you as much.
(15:21):
But not everyone has dealt with that. And is Bill
for that where they can hear that type of coaching
or that type of in your face criticism, because it's
not like we're gonna wait until we get into the
meeting to let you know that you did it is
something wrong? No, no, no, no, no, you do it on
the field. They're coming to you right now to tell you.
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I don't care if your mom was watching. We're about
to give you the business right now.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, it's just because And
I think the comedic disparity for me is the fact
that Russ kind of was a dog.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like you see how many fourth quarter comebacks the thude
has in his career.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
He saw many times he put the game like he
wasn't as much you wanted here in Denver, but over
the course of.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
His career, dude kind of was.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And we saw it with Pittsburgh a couple of games,
like you saw that come back against what was it?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Was it Washington? I think that they had that game
that came back.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like honestly, dude was kind of cut throat, you know,
but in the voice and that the message didn't match
it in the play.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Sometimes you know, it's like it's like it's like rick athlete.
You hear that voice and they don't see the redheaded dude,
white guy over there. They wait. It still doesn't make
a difference.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
As soon as the soul comes on, you're getting your
two hands and you're moving around.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So whatever. It's like you saw Bobby, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Heard Bobby Womack, and then you turn it on the
music video and you're like, wait, that's not That's not
somebody that looks like Big Luther.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's somebody looks like Bobby Darren.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
See it looks can be a different right when you
look at someone, he said, well they should exude this
type of leadership. And with it being a physical sport,
you you look for a guy to be like Burley.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And it'd be like, no, that's not who he is.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
And you just have to understand and deal with it
where you want to or you like it or not
that this is just the personality that's going to come out.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Of this person. Yeah. I mean, it's just one of
those things to be I find I mus squeaky. We
got a bunch of stuff to get to on this.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
When Josie Jewel was released by the Panthers and can
get it a little bit of that uh information. We
had a lot of people asking questions that the NFLPA
stuff want to talk to you nick about that and
make you spill state secrets.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So we'll make sure that you're you're unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You guys, listen, you can't wait sports Rdan, Dave rout
Nick and Benner in We'll be back after this. Yeah,
it's you know on Black Sables around forever. What are
they They started like sixty nine or sixty eight it
was I think I can't remember because they didn't want
to say their first album dropped in seventy but that
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might have been the second album.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay, I just remember because Ozzie was fired right before.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
The eighties, because that's when Ronny James Dio came in,
which you know he's passed away too now, but that's yeah,
what you know anyway, Ozzy Osbourne passing away three weeks after.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know the farewell.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Tour that they did, which you know you could see
plenty of clips of that certainly on the interwebs.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, you know what you know, Black Sabbath, they had
a lot of longevity and stand power. And for me,
when I think about this week and what's coming up
this season, I think about the Broncos A team, the
offensive defense, and the staying power of Patsertan because I
(18:33):
remember being here in Denver. It was my first time
back in a couple of years, and that was a
big issue that so many in this market and fans
took with then George Peyton, why would you make that
move when the team needs a quarterback? And so Tan
keeps racking up these you know, postseason accolades, which you
(18:59):
know stabilized him as Hey, this guy has some longevity.
And I know there was some concerns about from people
outside of this this market whether all the accolades are
gonna probably go to his head where we see somewhat
of maybe a downturn in his production.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I think the way that he thinks, based on how
he was raised being coached by Nick Saban, he's gonna
elevate his level of play because once you set a
standard a certain way, and that's what how it was
with mister b and coach Shanahan. Once you set your standard,
you can't fall below. And because he's PSU I'm talking about,
(19:40):
is playing at a high level, it's gonna force Roley
Moss and those other guys in the back end to
elevate their level play as well.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, and you know, I remember at the time when
Sirtan was drafted and.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was there was. There was a kind of an
outrage about it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Fans, specifically radio talking heads of this town were all
sitting there.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
How did you.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Pass on Justin Fielder or and all this other stupidity,
And I like, I'm like, dude, this was the right call.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Almost lost it because you gave me that Jim Gaffigain.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know, you know what I'm talking about. You know
exactly what I'm talking about it. I'm not going to
mention their names on the air, but like, it was dumb,
you know, it was. It was the dumbest premise ever.
It was the dumbest premise. Then it's still dumb, and
they that person still doubles down on to this day,
insisting they were right that this quarterback was on his
third team in three years. Was absolutely the right pick,
and you know, the best corner in the game was
the wrong one.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But yeah, it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It was just funny to watch how many people dumped
on George Payton for such a long time. And you
look at this roster now, the Broncos are the biggest
favorite in Week one this season. They are the biggest
favorite in the Week one of the NFL this season.
They are the most bet team to win their division
at BETAMGM Sportsbook.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Do you think more less that's because of the offensive
side of the ball and what most individual projecting a
sophomore I guess increase from bow knicks or is that
because of the traditions that the Broncos added to advance
those of defense?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Which one Well, I think it's a combination of the things.
I think there's optimism about a growth in the offense
and knowing what the defense already is.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think it's a combination of all of that. But
there's a lot there's.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
A lot of optimism about the Broncos this year. I
want to be optimistic. I need to see it. I
got to get a turn training camp.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I got to see it. Did we did right away?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Last year?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That was one thing I jumped right on the air.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was like, three days of practice, I do this
defense is gonna be legit. You knew that right away.
The question was the offense. And it took bow I
mean last year, what was a week five, week six
before he really really kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Took off in the Tampa thing.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But then it really kind of, you know, it kind
of kept incrementally getting better and you started to see
it a little bit. You know, they've got to get
off to a faster start off simply this year.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, there's no you're.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Not You're not a rookie.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know you don't have five games to get your
feet wet. You know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
As far as that kind of stuff goes, I I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think until you dethrone Kansas City, like you have
to kind of pick them.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Like.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That's just kind of the way I am with it.
And I think the Chargers is gonna be a damn
good football team this year. I know people hate me
saying that because they want me to be optimistic about
the Broncos. But I'm just saying, like, those two teams
are gonna be good. I'm not saying the Broncos aren't
gonna be good. You could still finish, honestly, and I've
said this several times. I'll say again, the Broncos could
still finish. They could be a better football team this
year and still finish ten and seven because you got
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a tougher schedule. You're not gonna get you know, there's
certain ball bounce in the right way. You're not gonna
you know, Jonathan Taylor's not going to cough up the
football one yard. You know you're not gonna get the
Patzertan one hundred yard picked six. Like there are, there
are things that are gonna happen. The ball bounce is
funny every year. There are things that are static. So
you could be ostensibly a better football team and still
have the same record.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Do you think that? Once again?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
For me, I'm always going to talk about standard because
that's what I came up in this Broncos organization as
a young player. The Broncos kind of said a little
standard because they hadn't been to the playoffs in a
while and they lost to Buffalo. So now they have
a taste of what that life looks like, what it
feels like. They also have a taste of what losing
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feels like.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Now. I want to see early on.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
In training camp if that is still in the back
of the mind of certain players. And I know some
would say that at some point you have to turn
the page, but I also know as a player that's
played over a decade in this league, you got to
keep something in the forefront of your mind that keeps
you motivated. And someone asked a question why as a
professional athlete do you need that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Hell, Michael Jordan used to invent stuff to just kind
of keep him going.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, So, guys, I mean Tom Brady, they all doubted us.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Remember when Tom.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Brady was getting the Patriots were selling that we're the underdogs.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Nobody believes us. Do do the New England Patriots. There's
nobody that doesn't believe you're going to be here.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yes, and even Richard Sherman when they played I think
against San Francisco forty nine ers, I believe that for
the right to go to Super Bowl. I mean he
was talking about Crabtree. You know how they underestimated, underestimated us.
Every player, I like to think, goes into cam with
something to motivate them from the prior season. And I
(24:19):
will love the Broncos as an organization, coaches and players
to not dwell on that Buffalo game, but show those
guys at the beginning of training camp, including the Evan
Ingram and the new additions and some of the rookie guys,
what that game was like, how we lost that game,
to just kind of showcase.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Why you were here.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You guys are here because we didn't really succeed the
way we needed to in the past, but now you
guys can help.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Us moving forward.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So you're showing them that game to show them that
there's another level to get to.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes, like we made it to the party, but now
we want to win.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's another and you got to look at it seventeen weeks.
You gotta look at it that way. The Broncos have
to take their game to the next level every single week.
Whether you're on special teams, whether you are the third
or fourth wide receiver, you're not getting that much time.
You gotta take and elevate your play to the next
level because all the teams in your division, all the
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teams in the AFC, they've got much better. So you
can't rest on your lawyers and say we got there.
It's think us nine seasons, but we got there. That's
not enough. Guys, you're this hour's chance, seem But Ben
and the listeners don't know, granted, and I on occasion
(25:41):
we send each other tracks like oh you got to
listen to this track or whatever, and a lot of
it is not like what you would think it would
be album.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I mean, yeah, so so a radio airplay. But one,
first of all, you lost me when you first say
that time, I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, that was the thing like Andred three thousands pan
flute album.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's not like you like Kenny g Right, that's a
whole kind.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Of acid jazz thing going on. It was like he
was playing a silken woodhound or something. Oh my god,
never letting that one down. That's for the BCT lesson. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
five six, six, nine zeros of text.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I've had a lot of great text coming in, although
one of these is confusing me. The three or three
said what are your thoughts on the Chargers versus Broncos
at the Super Bowl? And my thoughts are that would
not be possible.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
They would be an AFC championship matchup.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Unless unless, all right, they're talking flag football.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
They could be talking flag I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But I think just since they said super Bowl, I
think they mean the NFL. They're both in the same division,
so they obviously couldn't play ANFC championship. I guess, yeah, both,
I mean, that's entirely possible. I do believe both those
teams could very much be playoff teams. I think the
AFC West has got three three playoff teams in it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Man I'm still gonna tell them, Man, those sleep deep
on the Raiders, and I know they look like bottom
feeders because Carol is coming in and it's like, well,
Geno Smith is just being a serviceable quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, when you look about look at.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
How Gino's career has transformed under his time with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's what they're hoping to do. And oh, by the way.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I mean, you got some other coaches there who have
coached well, like one of my former Cincinnati Bengals in
Winnipeg Blue Bombers teammates, Dylan McCullough.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He is their running best coaches. Right, Yeah, so they
got I mean they got some mallers over there. We
got probably, you got brock Bowers, you got you had
a chance, you got Geno, you got Max.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just don't think of a enough you know, based
on their roster relative to the other roster.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I'm not saying as though I'm looking at the Raiders
as being like a eleven win team.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Nick Ferguson has guaranteed the Raiders to the super Bowl.
See now you're doing the Ryan era we're here on
the show.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
But at the same time, that's not to say that
They're not going to be com a lot more.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
They're not going to be a door mat like they do.
You know, I just think they're probably a six win
football team with that roster right there, and they just
they just need a little more than they didn't have
a body today Jamal.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Adams former guy who was there with.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
A big trade for Jamal Adams. See what they're trying
to do is they're trying.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
To live and breathe that whole you know, Raiders way
trying to you know, bring in some tough guys and
restore that that silver and black image. But I know
the biggest equalizer is when a guy comes down here
and runs through your chest. Yeah, all that tough guy
stuff goes away.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I can I can attench to that firsthand.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Of course, a man runs through you, Yes, he runs
through you, almost like he ran through your soul. It was.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It was so disrespectfully. He didn't put a move on me.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And that's the reason why I just like, I can
juke this guy or I can run him over.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Look me in the eyes, like I could juke you,
But I don't need to. You know, That's what happened,
and that's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I would if I had to sit down with some
of the Broncos running bags, I'll even ask them that question.
When you turn in a corner where it's inside and
outside and you see a defender.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You see in the corner right there, Yeah, do you have.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
That moment when you say, you know what, I can
juke him and make him look bad, but I can
run through his chest.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And make him look worse, make his parents look bad.
You put that on a T shirt. Actually, that's a
good one. Saving that slow, Yes.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Betjam Nick fill it in for Ryan and Dave today.
Everybody's gonna be back, I think tomorrow, of course, get the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Rockies during the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Tomorrow's be a short show for k Sports, full show
for Broncos Country Tonight. We got Rocky's Cardinals tonight as well.
Cover starting here at six o'clock, first pitch six forty
Here on KAA. We come back up, talk a little
bit about this NFLPA situation.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
When Nick to give us the lowdown on that, because
he does a lot of work there with the obviously
with the NFLPA Players Association, so he can break it
all down for us. Next, you guys, listen to k
wa sports right here heahwey
My body voice.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Right there for the punchline. Oh my goodness, were you
a Black Saba fan?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah? I was.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I know, contrary to what people believe, you know, going
growing up in the Inner City wasn't something like Black
Sabbath was just blasted in my inner city community. But
once I kind of got into sports. And that's crazy
because it was sports that kind of introduced me to
a lot of the bands that I listened now, like
even Metallica, And obviously now due to the Marvel movies,
(00:37):
my kids are into Black Sabbath because of the Iron
Man movies. Yeah, you know, so it's great and I
and I love it because it's wild.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
That my kids.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Introduction or love affair with certain musical groups or individuals
come from watching movies.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, a lot of that stuff reintroduces a lot of stuff.
I mean, the Guardians of Galaxy reduced the out of
the seventies and eighties songs.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Still a lot of people as well.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Benjamin all Bright, Dick Ferguson in for Ryan Edwards and
Dave Logan.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Dave's battling some vocal stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We got to get him set for for the season,
and Ryan's just you know, taking a DVA day off.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know, something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ryan and Ryan enjoying concerts at Red I'm going to go, yeah,
posting all these concerts of Red Rocks, and he's going
to well, it's real manner in here, working. Somebody's got
to hold down therebody.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So actually he's looking to find one of those a sweatshirt, right,
and we.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Know he likes to wear the flannel.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
The flannel. Yeah, flannel hoodie, that's what he's looking.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He's looking for a Mumford And I mean, yeah, I'm
pretty sure there's plenty of flannel there.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And ironic mustaches there.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You don't like muffort is done, I mean all right,
yeah right, so really, I mean it's okay, better better
say it's not your thing. Probably like if I had
if I happened to have had it, we of course
get those right.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I had free tickets this show. I would have
gone to the show. But I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I wouldn't have like I would have gone out of
my way.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hits Toto, you know obviously, you know, for my money.
When they bless the rains down in Africa. Uh no,
I mean that's all right, it's not that's not bad
at all. I don't have anything against them, it's just
not you know, if it's on the radio, I'm not
changing the radio station.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But it's not I'm not seeking it out on my playlist.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
That's one of those bands that I never thought that
I would end up liking.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But it is a band that I do like. They
have some They got some catchy songs.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Of course, they did the They did the theme music
for ted Lasso. Yeah, that the theme song for ted Lasso.
That's Marcus Mumpforts.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
They also released a song with Pharrell last year. Yeah,
pretty good. This is something about that benjo. But you
benjo in there? Give me that? Well, you don't.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You don't want too much banjo, right, you don't want
too much.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You want just by itself. You gotta. I got a
favor the prescription. It's more bad jo. Oh oh, five six, six,
nine years.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's actually a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
To get to this. Our chance one thousand dollars. Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The keyword for cash be coming up a little later
in the hour thanks to Calera rejoint replacement calorjoint dot org. Yeah,
I just want to stick around for that. Obviously, we've
been we've been I want say, celebrating the life of Ozzie.
I guess a little bit today since we found out
earlier we had welcome Jamal Warner pass away. Was it yesterday?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
THEO, Hawkstable and Malcolm and Eddie I think were the
biggest things.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Most things.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Probably people probably remember him for. Uh he was on
a show called Jericho. I remember him him being on that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
See.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think that was a little before Grand's time, obviously, when.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Mike grew up on the reruns of The Conzee.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The reruns, and I was explaining it to my kids
yesterday because it was just like, man, why are you
responding the way that you are?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
What happened? I had to explain to them what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And I show my son a clip one of my
favorite clips of The Cosby Show because for me it
was great growing up. You know, my father wasn't around,
so I got a glimpse of what family would or
should look like watching The Cosby Show. And it was
one scene where THEO had cheated on his girlfriend Justine,
(04:19):
and his father pulled out the Blues album and he
was saying, like, you want her back. You can't use
a poem, I mean, you got to you gotta dig
down deep, right, and he was going see just Stan
and he was like no, no, no, no, no, no boy.
He was like, no, boy, you gotta dig deep. I
mean writing poems and saying you're sorry it is not enough.
But it was that particular moment, and it was one
(04:40):
of the better father son moments of those two characters,
Cliff Huxible and Theo Huxable. And and I posted it
on social media because that's how I will always remember,
you know, Milchcael, Jamar and Wanner and that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Character in that role.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
By the way, Jeremiah not Jericho, was the name of
the show that he was that he was on. Newer
younger kids may remember him from Community. He did four
episodes of Community where he was surely Bennet's ex husband.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, he's so he's if you were if you watch
the show Community, the Joe mckill show, he was in there.
And it's funny because he wears a Cosby sweater and
he said in the show and he says, I.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Got it from my dad, like he got this. He said,
I got so like a sound nod back to that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, I mean, I gotta have to go back and
look at that, because when you said that, I was like,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Remember him on the community.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah he was Andre was his name in that one,
but he was in like it's like three episode, maybe
four episodes.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's go ahead.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I love this show, so I have to go back,
but I think it's three or four episodes, you know,
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But yeah, it's just with the you know, you know
how stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Happens in bunches, or seems to happen in bunches, you know.
And uh we Macchael Jamal wandered drowned in a riptide
current off the coast of Costa Rica and Asie were
passing away today as well, so you.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Know, you know, what it say is really quickly, you know,
Van and Grant, is that we are encountered people in
a lives all the time. And we see celebrities and
it seems as though they're so far away from our
ordinary lives, but we have to realize that they are
people too. And I try to get fans to remember
this when they were talking about theirs their favorite sports
(06:16):
team or sports figures, that maybe that guy didn't have
a great gain that that particular game, but don't destroy
them in the way that in society that things have
come to be because they have a mom, they have kids.
All this stuff plays a role. So hopefully this put
things in perspective that life is so precious and we
need to cherish every.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Moment of it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, absolutely got a lot of stuff to uh to
get to here on the show today. Obviously, UH trading
camps sort of kicked off a little bit today. You know,
practice that'll start tomorrow, but we did get to hear
from uh Certan and Mike McGlinchey a little bit of
what they they had. Patzer Tan has gone full speaking
cliche mode. By the way, I don't know if you've
seen the give It one hundred and how has that changed.
(07:02):
That's not how he's always been. Yeah, but I mean
it's like it's so much more so.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Did he go to the Russell Wilson School.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Oh, it's not the toxic positivity, but he's Yeah, he
says he's not slogan.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He's not your slogan guy.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You just gotta believe it's what's wrong with being like
one of those tongue in cheek type guys.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
No, Like the rush thing was weird because when he
was on the sidelines of the Troy gamming. You just
gotta believe, fellows, just gotta believe Russ. We're down twenty
one points with eight minutes left with like there's no
amount of belief.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Get a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I don't think that that's fair for Russ or anyone else,
because that's the art of being a leader, like like
the quarterbacks are propped it up on a pedestal and
like they're the faces of the franchise. And if a
guy is just kind of walking down and sitting at
the end of the bitch like Jay Cutler used to
do when we played together when our team was down,
(07:53):
that was frowned upon. But even though you were down
and being able to get guys going, that's.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Part of it because that's what Jake Plumber used to do.
But that's okay. But that's what makes Jacob.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's not some systemagmatic slogan over here. That's not the
aloofness of Cutler over here, Jake Plumber in real passion
for the game, Like you get down there getting it okay, guys,
tell me what I tell me what I.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Can do better so we can get us there. Yeah,
I don't know that's fair. Are you saying this wasn't
an authentic moment?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Broncos Country, Let's rob Broncos Country.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Let's right, Broncos Country right.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
No, you did Giants Country Listen.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I get it. It's almost damned if you do your
damn if you don't.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
And when you are propped up as often as a
starting quarterback in the league, is I mean to me,
there's gonna be a little redundancy with certain things. And
then also, I mean, you want to speak your mind,
but also you have to be a little strategic.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
In how you do that. Do you not? I think so?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But I think there's an authentic way to do it,
and it's well, there's that's the easiest way to get
the point across. The better way to say it would be,
I think you can do something that's more relatable to
the people you're talking to, because saying Broncos Country lest ride,
let's not get the fact that you fired up, that
you're gonna go jack somebody up right after Russ comes
out k Nick Let's ride.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
It wouldn't work for me.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But once again, understanding, there are on a given day
this forty seven forty nine players that dress for regular
season game. And obviously the quarterback you know, is the
guy that everyone cheers.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
They usually they get the biggest scream.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And you gotta find something that you feel not just
motivate your teammates, but kind.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Of motivate you.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So even though the whole thing what Russ was saying
didn't motivate everyone else, but it's probably something.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
For him, just like PS two. Right, he's been around.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He's watched other guys who thinks his dad has played
in his league. And I'm sure whether he was told
directly indirectly. When you go up to that podum podium,
you're gonna be asked a barrage of questions.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Before you answer, think first, think.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
About the person who's asking you, because speak generically.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Don't give him anything. I know I did. Everything works,
but I mean that's the safest way to do it
right obviously, But.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm going I'm going back to I'm going back to
this in game thing like if you know, if Russell
Wilson comes.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Up to you, come on Nick's ride, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't listen to listen to Monte Jordan from nineteen
ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Wait, brag, you didn't say it's not just how he
said it, it was how being kind of looked at me,
give me this Scooter McGavin kind of a weak right,
That's that's what he kind of gave to him. He's like, no, no,
and not in next trick.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
If it's me and I'm going up there and I'm
having a bad day, right, I need the defense that
I'm getting up a fellas, I'm trash today, all right,
I've been trash all game. I tell you what, you
go give me the ball. Go get me the ball
one more time, and I'll make sure I get us
in there. I'll get us over the hill. You go
get go, get me the ball, and I'll get you
in there. Like Jared Goff in that episode of Quarterback
when he had through like five interceptions, they still found
a way to.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Win the game. The worst case scenario all on me.
But you give me the ball one more time, I'm
gonna win this game. You just quote the.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Defensive coordinator form, Remember the Titans, you plicks all night?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Remember well once.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Again, okay, I can understand that, But the one thing
you would never want your quarterback to say, your pseudo leader,
is that, well, I was trash for the first three quarters.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
No no no no no no.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Done. Today I was sticking it up. But I'll get
you know, take accountability today. Obviously it's not my day.
I'm struggling a little. I just need you guys to
pull me along, like you said, like Jake would always say,
give me the ball back and I'll do something with it.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yes, But I mean that's what made Jake a great
leader that you got to right. I mean, it's obvious,
like you on the other sideline or you know, on
the other side of the ball, you know that your
quarterback is playing like trash, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Okay, here's Here's a wild thing about playing this game
is that you know that maybe the play calling that
day sucked, right, you know that a couple of players.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Didn't pull their first fare the way, But.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
When you get in that locker room, you can't really
say that. Now. Also, I know this too as well,
and I learned this dealing with a very tough media
group in New York with the Jets.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I mean, here, endeavor, they're pound puppies.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But I still had that in the back of my
mind because when something happens on the field, you have
certain individuals in this media who are looking for sound bites,
so they know which guy who's gonna be on edge,
who's gonna be disgrunted, and you go right to him first,
and he's gonna say something that I know.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
The PR group's gonna be like, no, No, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Say that, and they go right to that person, and
now you've started a controversy, and it's like, no, we've
been in games.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
We watch games.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We know that someone when the coach did not call
the right play, or a player didn't play well.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He threw the ball, whatever it is, we all would
know that. But to try.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
To spark more of the antagonism by speaking into it, No,
that was the one thing that you don't do with
a mice and a hand coastine well, and I get that.
You don't throw you guys under the bus to the media.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Wasn't getting get in the house in a car with
you in the group?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Chat's different. We love Russ off this one definitely. Kid
five six six nine zero is the text on a
lot of good texts coming in. Uh. Somebody here says
Ben likes to clown on people he isn't a fan
of like Russ and shown I like Russ just fine.
I just you know, I find it's like I would
not be motivated by his pep talks. I like to
(13:32):
pump up people he likes, like the Cardinals and the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Look.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yes, it's no secret that I know John Gannon, I
know Brian Shottenneimer, and I like those guys because they're
you know, my friends.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So you know whatever, not.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Always a but the product on the field just based
on who he likes personally. Uh, but hey, we still
like listen to him. Well, I appreciate that man. Nothing
better than a hate listen.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, you know, hate me harder? Yes, hate hate, hate hate.
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Someone nine Russ was that guy in middle school with
a squeaky voice. Come on, guys, like coach said, we
just still come back.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
We do our best.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Listen, man, we once again we hit step on guys
for being who they are, even if we don't agree
with them. And that's not part of our personality. Because
that texta right there and talking about I've been around
guys who have had I guess seft spoken as a
leader and their voices may have sounded like that, and
(14:27):
so it sounds awkward coming from a person like that.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And in some players that to but he was a dog.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yes. Once again, each guy is different. There is a
different leadership.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Stop. Do you would you want someone to constantly yell
and scream at you and brate you.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, but you gotta find you gotta find that happy medium.
You got to find that balance and you got to
find accountability in that too. You got to be able
to say, look, hey, so me today, I wouldn't able
to put up the points we need, but you get
me the ball back and I'll get us over.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'll get us over the finish line. I mean that
that's great.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And for me, I mean my high school coach was
a throwback coach, had Georgia Leary throwback coach Bill Parcells
that were like, yeah, you use the coaches that were
eating your lunch all the time. Yes. And it got
to a point, man, when you heard so much of
it that I mean, it didn't really bother you as much.
(15:21):
But not everyone has dealt with that. And is Bill
for that where they can hear that type of coaching
or that type of in your face criticism, because it's
not like we're gonna wait until we get into the
meeting to let you know that you did it is
something wrong? No, no, no, no, no, you do it on
the field. They're coming to you right now to tell you.
(15:43):
I don't care if your mom was watching. We're about
to give you the business right now.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, it's just because And
I think the comedic disparity for me is the fact
that Russ kind of was a dog.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like you see how many fourth quarter comebacks the thude
has in his career.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
He saw many times he put the game like he
wasn't as much you wanted here in Denver, but over
the course of.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
His career, dude kind of was.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And we saw it with Pittsburgh a couple of games,
like you saw that come back against what was it?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Was it Washington? I think that they had that game
that came back.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like honestly, dude was kind of cut throat, you know,
but in the voice and that the message didn't match
it in the play.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Sometimes you know, it's like it's like it's like rick athlete.
You hear that voice and they don't see the redheaded dude,
white guy over there. They wait. It still doesn't make
a difference.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
As soon as the soul comes on, you're getting your
two hands and you're moving around.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
So whatever. It's like you saw Bobby, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Heard Bobby Womack, and then you turn it on the
music video and you're like, wait, that's not That's not
somebody that looks like Big Luther.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's somebody looks like Bobby Darren.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
See it looks can be a different right when you
look at someone, he said, well they should exude this
type of leadership. And with it being a physical sport,
you you look for a guy to be like Burley.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And it'd be like, no, that's not who he is.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
And you just have to understand and deal with it
where you want to or you like it or not
that this is just the personality that's going to come out.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Of this person. Yeah. I mean, it's just one of
those things to be I find I mus squeaky. We
got a bunch of stuff to get to on this.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
When Josie Jewel was released by the Panthers and can
get it a little bit of that uh information. We
had a lot of people asking questions that the NFLPA
stuff want to talk to you nick about that and
make you spill state secrets.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So we'll make sure that you're you're unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You guys, listen, you can't wait sports Rdan, Dave rout
Nick and Benner in We'll be back after this. Yeah,
it's you know on Black Sables around forever. What are
they They started like sixty nine or sixty eight it
was I think I can't remember because they didn't want
to say their first album dropped in seventy but that
(17:48):
might have been the second album.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay, I just remember because Ozzie was fired right before.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
The eighties, because that's when Ronny James Dio came in,
which you know he's passed away too now, but that's yeah,
what you know anyway, Ozzy Osbourne passing away three weeks after.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You know the farewell.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Tour that they did, which you know you could see
plenty of clips of that certainly on the interwebs.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, you know what you know, Black Sabbath, they had
a lot of longevity and stand power. And for me,
when I think about this week and what's coming up
this season, I think about the Broncos A team, the
offensive defense, and the staying power of Patsertan because I
(18:33):
remember being here in Denver. It was my first time
back in a couple of years, and that was a
big issue that so many in this market and fans
took with then George Peyton, why would you make that
move when the team needs a quarterback? And so Tan
keeps racking up these you know, postseason accolades, which you
(18:59):
know stabilized him as Hey, this guy has some longevity.
And I know there was some concerns about from people
outside of this this market whether all the accolades are
gonna probably go to his head where we see somewhat
of maybe a downturn in his production.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I think the way that he thinks, based on how
he was raised being coached by Nick Saban, he's gonna
elevate his level of play because once you set a
standard a certain way, and that's what how it was
with mister b and coach Shanahan. Once you set your standard,
you can't fall below. And because he's PSU I'm talking about,
(19:40):
is playing at a high level, it's gonna force Roley
Moss and those other guys in the back end to
elevate their level play as well.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, and you know, I remember at the time when
Sirtan was drafted and.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was there was. There was a kind of an
outrage about it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Fans, specifically radio talking heads of this town were all
sitting there.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
How did you.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Pass on Justin Fielder or and all this other stupidity,
And I like, I'm like, dude, this was the right call.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Almost lost it because you gave me that Jim Gaffigain.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know, you know what I'm talking about. You know
exactly what I'm talking about it. I'm not going to
mention their names on the air, but like, it was dumb,
you know, it was. It was the dumbest premise ever.
It was the dumbest premise. Then it's still dumb, and
they that person still doubles down on to this day,
insisting they were right that this quarterback was on his
third team in three years. Was absolutely the right pick,
and you know, the best corner in the game was
the wrong one.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
But yeah, it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It was just funny to watch how many people dumped
on George Payton for such a long time. And you
look at this roster now, the Broncos are the biggest
favorite in Week one this season. They are the biggest
favorite in the Week one of the NFL this season.
They are the most bet team to win their division
at BETAMGM Sportsbook.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Do you think more less that's because of the offensive
side of the ball and what most individual projecting a
sophomore I guess increase from bow knicks or is that
because of the traditions that the Broncos added to advance
those of defense?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Which one Well, I think it's a combination of the things.
I think there's optimism about a growth in the offense
and knowing what the defense already is.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think it's a combination of all of that. But
there's a lot there's.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
A lot of optimism about the Broncos this year. I
want to be optimistic. I need to see it. I
got to get a turn training camp.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I got to see it. Did we did right away?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Last year?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That was one thing I jumped right on the air.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I was like, three days of practice, I do this
defense is gonna be legit. You knew that right away.
The question was the offense. And it took bow I
mean last year, what was a week five, week six
before he really really kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Took off in the Tampa thing.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But then it really kind of, you know, it kind
of kept incrementally getting better and you started to see
it a little bit. You know, they've got to get
off to a faster start off simply this year.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know, there's no you're.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Not You're not a rookie.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You know you don't have five games to get your
feet wet. You know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
As far as that kind of stuff goes, I I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I think until you dethrone Kansas City, like you have
to kind of pick them.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Like.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That's just kind of the way I am with it.
And I think the Chargers is gonna be a damn
good football team this year. I know people hate me
saying that because they want me to be optimistic about
the Broncos. But I'm just saying, like, those two teams
are gonna be good. I'm not saying the Broncos aren't
gonna be good. You could still finish, honestly, and I've
said this several times. I'll say again, the Broncos could
still finish. They could be a better football team this
year and still finish ten and seven because you got
(22:34):
a tougher schedule. You're not gonna get you know, there's
certain ball bounce in the right way. You're not gonna
you know, Jonathan Taylor's not going to cough up the
football one yard. You know you're not gonna get the
Patzertan one hundred yard picked six. Like there are, there
are things that are gonna happen. The ball bounce is
funny every year. There are things that are static. So
you could be ostensibly a better football team and still
have the same record.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Do you think that? Once again?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
For me, I'm always going to talk about standard because
that's what I came up in this Broncos organization as
a young player. The Broncos kind of said a little
standard because they hadn't been to the playoffs in a
while and they lost to Buffalo. So now they have
a taste of what that life looks like, what it
feels like. They also have a taste of what losing
(23:18):
feels like.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Now. I want to see early on.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
In training camp if that is still in the back
of the mind of certain players. And I know some
would say that at some point you have to turn
the page, but I also know as a player that's
played over a decade in this league, you got to
keep something in the forefront of your mind that keeps
you motivated. And someone asked a question why as a
professional athlete do you need that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Hell, Michael Jordan used to invent stuff to just kind
of keep him going.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, So, guys, I mean Tom Brady, they all doubted us.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Remember when Tom.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Brady was getting the Patriots were selling that we're the underdogs.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Nobody believes us. Do do the New England Patriots. There's
nobody that doesn't believe you're going to be here.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yes, and even Richard Sherman when they played I think
against San Francisco forty nine ers, I believe that for
the right to go to Super Bowl. I mean he
was talking about Crabtree. You know how they underestimated, underestimated us.
Every player, I like to think, goes into cam with
something to motivate them from the prior season. And I
(24:19):
will love the Broncos as an organization, coaches and players
to not dwell on that Buffalo game, but show those
guys at the beginning of training camp, including the Evan
Ingram and the new additions and some of the rookie guys,
what that game was like, how we lost that game,
to just kind of showcase.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Why you were here.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You guys are here because we didn't really succeed the
way we needed to in the past, but now you
guys can help.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Us moving forward.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So you're showing them that game to show them that
there's another level to get to.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes, like we made it to the party, but now
we want to win.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's another and you got to look at it seventeen weeks.
You gotta look at it that way. The Broncos have
to take their game to the next level every single week.
Whether you're on special teams, whether you are the third
or fourth wide receiver, you're not getting that much time.
You gotta take and elevate your play to the next
level because all the teams in your division, all the
(25:18):
teams in the AFC, they've got much better. So you
can't rest on your lawyers and say we got there.
It's think us nine seasons, but we got there. That's
not enough. Guys, you're this hour's chance, seem But Ben
and the listeners don't know, granted, and I on occasion
(25:41):
we send each other tracks like oh you got to
listen to this track or whatever, and a lot of
it is not like what you would think it would
be album.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I mean, yeah, so so a radio airplay. But one,
first of all, you lost me when you first say
that time, I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, that was the thing like Andred three thousands pan
flute album.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's not like you like Kenny g Right, that's a
whole kind.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Of acid jazz thing going on. It was like he
was playing a silken woodhound or something. Oh my god,
never letting that one down. That's for the BCT lesson. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
five six, six, nine zeros of text.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I've had a lot of great text coming in, although
one of these is confusing me. The three or three
said what are your thoughts on the Chargers versus Broncos
at the Super Bowl? And my thoughts are that would
not be possible.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
They would be an AFC championship matchup.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Unless unless, all right, they're talking flag football.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
They could be talking flag I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
But I think just since they said super Bowl, I
think they mean the NFL. They're both in the same division,
so they obviously couldn't play ANFC championship. I guess, yeah, both,
I mean, that's entirely possible. I do believe both those
teams could very much be playoff teams. I think the
AFC West has got three three playoff teams in it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Man I'm still gonna tell them, Man, those sleep deep
on the Raiders, and I know they look like bottom
feeders because Carol is coming in and it's like, well,
Geno Smith is just being a serviceable quarterback.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
No, when you look about look at.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
How Gino's career has transformed under his time with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's what they're hoping to do. And oh, by the way.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I mean, you got some other coaches there who have
coached well, like one of my former Cincinnati Bengals in
Winnipeg Blue Bombers teammates, Dylan McCullough.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He is their running best coaches. Right, Yeah, so they
got I mean they got some mallers over there. We
got probably, you got brock Bowers, you got you had
a chance, you got Geno, you got Max.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I just don't think of a enough you know, based
on their roster relative to the other roster.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I'm not saying as though I'm looking at the Raiders
as being like a eleven win team.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Nick Ferguson has guaranteed the Raiders to the super Bowl.
See now you're doing the Ryan era we're here on
the show.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
But at the same time, that's not to say that
They're not going to be com a lot more.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
They're not going to be a door mat like they do.
You know, I just think they're probably a six win
football team with that roster right there, and they just
they just need a little more than they didn't have
a body today Jamal.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Adams former guy who was there with.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
A big trade for Jamal Adams. See what they're trying
to do is they're trying.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
To live and breathe that whole you know, Raiders way
trying to you know, bring in some tough guys and
restore that that silver and black image. But I know
the biggest equalizer is when a guy comes down here
and runs through your chest. Yeah, all that tough guy
stuff goes away.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I can I can attench to that firsthand.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Of course, a man runs through you, Yes, he runs
through you, almost like he ran through your soul. It was.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It was so disrespectfully. He didn't put a move on me.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And that's the reason why I just like, I can
juke this guy or I can run him over.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Look me in the eyes, like I could juke you,
But I don't need to. You know, That's what happened,
and that's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I would if I had to sit down with some
of the Broncos running bags, I'll even ask them that question.
When you turn in a corner where it's inside and
outside and you see a defender.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
You see in the corner right there, Yeah, do you have.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
That moment when you say, you know what, I can
juke him and make him look bad, but I can
run through his chest.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And make him look worse, make his parents look bad.
You put that on a T shirt. Actually, that's a
good one. Saving that slow, Yes.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Betjam Nick fill it in for Ryan and Dave today.
Everybody's gonna be back, I think tomorrow, of course, get the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Rockies during the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Tomorrow's be a short show for k Sports, full show
for Broncos Country Tonight. We got Rocky's Cardinals tonight as well.
Cover starting here at six o'clock, first pitch six forty
Here on KAA. We come back up, talk a little
bit about this NFLPA situation.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
What's going on there?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
When Nick to give us the lowdown on that, because
he does a lot of work there with the obviously
with the NFLPA Players Association, so he can break it
all down for us. Next, you guys, listen to k
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