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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to it, kat Wait Sports. No rider day
been a nick in today.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ryanderwards will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I believe I'll be riding Shotgun with him after the
Rockies tomorrow. Grand Smith probably probably back there as well.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm always here, He's always here. He lives here. They
got out.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
They've installed a secret bedroom for the Grant Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He just lives here in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Up five six six nine zero is the text line.
A couple of Saints, our former Saints retire today. Tyrann
Matthew Honey Badger announced his retirement. Daln Holker from CSU
just got picked up by the by the Saints of
Seas inter Cue announced his retirement from football just a
few minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Look, man, retirement from anything is always definitely tough. And
I watched retirement video for Philip Rivers and to watch
him relive some.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Of his high points and low.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Points and realized, finally, even though you know he's been
retired a couple of years, to realize that that dream
that you had as a youngster growing up, now it's
come to an official end and you cannot put the
toothpaste back.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Into the two. Colt's legend Philip Rivers bro Le. Yeah,
we were talking about I was talk about this yesterday
because Phil Rivers had played since twenty twenty and he's
had five years. I mean the attack, I think we
all figured he was retired.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But with that, just that reality.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Man, you know that the chapter has closed your athleticism
and the lack of lets.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, but then Tom starts to move on, and then.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
People start interviewing you, asking questions, and you just relive
it all over again, and the emotion that you didn't
show at the very beginning. It all started crashing down
because you start looking at today's players and you look
at how the game has continued to be the same
but still change at the same time.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's so funny when you go back and you look,
because Phil Rivers had the most unorthodox throwing motion too,
like he was pushing it, like he was launching it
like a medieval Trevische down the field, and he still
had one of the the highest most accurate passers of
all time. You know, as far as stuff, David and
I were debating that because I mean, I think he
belongs in the Hall of Fame. I just don't know
that he's gonna get it given the lack of playoff success,
(02:24):
and he's in there. Allow, he's in the top ten
in like every passing category.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, once again it goes back.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And then this is the argument I have with people
when we started looking at probos and hall of fames, Right,
what are some of the characteristics. Now, some would automatically say, well,
in order to be considered for the Hall of Fame,
you need to have played in the super Bowl, And
that's not true. I mean another San Diego quarterback, and
(02:53):
Dan Fouts is in a Pro Football Hall of Fame,
not because the amount of playoffs or Super Bowl appearances,
but being in the Eric Coriol offense and how he
matriculated the ball down the field. And as a guy
who has played against Philip Rivers, I would say that
dude definitely deserves to be and or he has earned
(03:15):
that deserves he's earned the right to be there statistically,
even though he doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
A Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I mean that's one of those things. I think
he deserves to be there based on all that. But
I just don't know, Like it's one of those things
where you're like, all right, is Matt Ryan deserve the
Hall of Fame? Because the resume is like Matt Ryan
might even have a stronger resume in terms of you
at least he got to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, I would dare to say Matt Ryan does to
be needs to be mentioned in that category, even though
I think it's what three hundred and eighty two guys,
you know, with the class that's going in now in
this totality.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But yeah, I mean, were you extraordinary?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Matt Ryan was the MVP of the league the year
that they went to the Super Bowl and he lost
to Brady.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, twenty eight three. That counts for something.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, Oh yeah, I think it does. Some other stuff
from around in the league. Terry McLaren officially holding out
in Washington.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Holding out, Hold it in out, hold it out.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
We'll be fined fifty thousand dollars per day. He's approaching
the third year of a three year or sixty point
four million dollar contract with an average of twenty two
point eight uh in there. And obviously there's a surging
market amongst receivers. Now you've got multiple receivers making more
than thirty million dollars annually, and that's what he's seeking,
is roughly thirty million annually. McLaren is approaching his age
(04:35):
thirty season this year, where lead performance after thirty years
old is not.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Normally the norm.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Adam Peters said, everybody in the building values Terry so much.
They've had conversations. We're going to do everything we can
to get a deal done. I expect something to be
done in the next week week.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Got see see.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I know coach speak when I hear it, and usually
that's the tradition. You know, we value you and we
value everything that you bring to the group.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Okay, it shall do.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Show me, well, exactly how much do you value?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
How much we can literally put a number on it, Yes, exactly,
And then you could say, well, using the factors that
are always use against players, well, look look at his age,
and to me, that is not a barometer that you
can use for every single player, because there are certain
guys who are still ascending.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Outside of the you know, twenty seventh birthday. Yeah, so
you can't compare me to someone else my age.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Look at my production. Now he's been quarterback proof. Look
at the guys that have been throwing to him. Forget
Jake Dannis for minute. Look at guys that have been
throwing to mclarino of the course of his career and
the numbers that he's put up.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He's been quarterback proof.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You could add some the worst guy Sam Howels out there, Yeah,
and just put up thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And to me, this is now.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't expect watching them an AP to look at
it this way, because no one thinks about giving you money.
They think about taking it away from right. But what
you said is true and if I'm his camp, that's
what I'm preaching. Look at the numbers I consistently put up,
but now you're starting to put talent around me, my
numbers can go up even more.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm thinking with Deebo Samuel being.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
There, that should help out him a lot as far
as drawing, like single coverage.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Another guy that's looking to get paid and did not
show up, Trey Hendrickson. The Bungles continue to be the Bungles,
Christmas Chris Smith's favorite team.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
What it is paid people, that's who they're not.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I talked before the show Western Joe Burrow played somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I didn't have to root for those owners.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You could always change your team, Yeah, I mean what
Joe Burrow does Okay, well, Mike Brown continues to be
a laughing stock.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
One of to tea his owners in the league.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Trey Henderson is down in Jacksonville, Florida. He lives in Cincinnati.
He left to go on vacation. Uh and instead of
reporting to training camp. It does not have a deal,
saying and I'm quoting here, the offer was quote atrociously
atrociously low and did not include any money guaranteed to
be on one year.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That sounds astrociously like the Bengos, right.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
This is something that they have done for years, almost
trying to strong arm, grant, strong arm their own players.
And it's not as though we're talking about a mediocre player.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
We're talking about the best player.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
On your team, and by for one of the better
defensive guys in the league.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And this is how you're gonna treat him like nah. Well,
it's not just the veterans. They're doing it to a
rookie too.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Shamar Stewart still doesn't have a deal, one of only
two players from the draft class without one, the other
being quinched On Judkins who was just arrested, and the
Browns put a pin in that after Will Johnson signed today.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So with the last guys left. And the one part
of this that I keep laughing at.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Mike Brown came out yesterday and was doing some damage control,
trying to say, well, this.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Is the same language everybody else has. Buddy, I've seen
the language. It is not the same language everybody else has.
The Bengals have put in a clause in the in
this contract.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, conceptually there are clauses and other people's contracts that
allow teams to recoup money if they get in trouble
for off field stuff. The language of the Bengals put
in allows them to take the contract to go year
to year and look at injuries or off field or
whatever and basically void your guarantees and recoup money based
on that. It is not the same deal anybody assigned.
(08:18):
And there's no reason that anybody should sign.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
See this speaks to an organization who is kind of
cast strapped, right because now you're nickeling diming your own players,
not just you know, a veteran player or a rookie player.
But but to the credit of the Bengals, they're saying
they are being fair.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It is It isn't them that's being unfair.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It is Samar Stewart's camp and his advisors who are
being unfair as far as telling him not to sign.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They did because Cincinnati said we did nothing wrong, but
they did. They put a new clause in there.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
This total total nonsense and they claiming that everybody else
has it ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
See, they need to sit down, enjoy some skyline chilly
and just get this deal done.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
What do you say about that grant?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They need to get this deal. Whether that's Skyline killer
or not, that'll just be the icing on time. Dallas
Cowboys and Michael Parsons still haven't got something done. Yesterday,
Jerry Jones threw Dak Prescott and Michael Parsons under the bus.
Today when Michael Parsons was available to the media down
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there at Dallas training camp, he told everybody that his agent,
David Mulgatta, had called the Cowboys last week and nobody's
gotten back to him. That's how you run an organization,
right there?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Are are you surprised concern?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
In fact that it's it's been a while since we've
actually come to know the Dallas Cowboys as far as
making a comeback to the Super Bowl, And even though
they haven't done that in a long time. They're still
one of the more talked about teams.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Every single year, there's been Cowboys fans that were not
born and now have kids that haven't seen the Cowboys
make an af or an NFC championship game. So it's time,
the longest drought in the league, it's time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
To change the channel at that point, is it not.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's okay if you're abandon your mom and your grandparents
team to pick another team that's really putting their best
foot forward.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's barely invented. The last time twitter or.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Didn't exist and would not exist for ten more years
the last time I know.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Listen, Jerry is one of the most creative guys in
the league when it comes to brokering big deals, broadcasting deals,
things like that. He knows how to rake in the dollars.
But haven't we seen this movie before? He's done this.
He did it with Emmitt Smith, he did it with
(11:07):
Ceedee Lamb, he did it with Dad Prescott.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Now you're doing it again with you know, your your.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Best pass rusher, you know on your team, Michael Parsons.
And we all know that the price is not gonna
go down. There's no such thing as like when you
buy a car, as soon as you take it off
the dealership, it depreciates. Michael Parson's productivity is only going
to increase.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's just funny to me. And the decisions that they make,
they I mean, you know who this is benefiting. With
Trey Hendrickson and Michael Parsons not being signed yet, you
know who that's benefiting, Nick Benito, Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
A lot of nights over there. It's so funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And the Dallas thing is so weird because, I mean
they let Jason Garrett be the head coach there forever
and he went.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
To the playoffs three times.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Dallas went to the playoffs three times while Jason Garrett
was the head coach.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That is inane.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Jerry Jones had a certain level of affinity for Garrett
because he was once a backup quarterback de Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The Willias Phillips after three seasons, two of which he
went to the playoffs to bring in Jason Garrett, who
was there for a decade and went three times.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well here's what we know about Jerry. I mean, they
don't call it Jerry whirl for no reason. Jerry wants
to be in the mix. He wants to be making
all of his decisions right. Business decisions are great, but
business decision when it comes to the business and football
hasn't really been so.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Great for his team, not lately.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And it's funny because it wasn't like that those teams
l Jation Garsteam didn't have a ton of talent. You
had Jason Whitten and des Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Cole Beasley,
Miles Austin.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, you had all Cantoni Romo throwing the ball, one.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Of the best offensive lines in football. And that's without
getting into the defensive side of things. Or for years
they had guys like DeMarcus Ware, Orlando Scandric and you
know Olse guys.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But Keith it in mind, see.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I know the fields is though Micah may not have
any leverage, but with the Cowboys not being relevant as
far as playoff recognition to Super Bowl, they're still in
a tough division. They may be how some feel the
Raiders are in the AFC West, They may be viewed
(13:37):
like that in the East because the first game of
the season against the Philadelphia Eagles, and if I am
Michael Parsons, I'm gonna play it this way. I'm glad
he reported the camp and unlike McLaurin, I'm not gonna
hold out. I'm gonna hold in. M stay there, not practice,
(13:57):
wait to that first game.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Let him lose it and watch Derrika mccrala.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Right now, micause they hold up. Somebody answered the phone.
Can't waite sports back it for this? No see, I
call him. And I always sorted by the worst ones
because I want to see what it kind of experiences
people had. But this one, this five star review on
Yelp came in, and I have to.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Read this to you. It's unrelated to anything Elf for
doing here, but it's it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Kevin gave a five star review to a Little Caesar's location.
So I stopped in the Little Caesars just trying to
get a six dollar pizza and ended up in a
full on action movie. Just as I grab my order,
this furious dude barches in, yelling about how I cut
him off in traffic earlier, and before I can even respond,
throws a punch and then out of nowhere, the guy
(14:49):
behind the counter jumps.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Over it like he's been waiting for this moment.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
His whole life and beats the living hell out of
the guy. The guy ran off the cashier dusted himself
off instead of you, okay, man, look me dead the
eye and said, Bro, this is Little Caesars.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
We're always hot and ready. Five stars will absolutely return.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Kevin s that dude was waiting for that moment because
he had that line prepared, which like who has Like
if you if you cut someone off in traffic and
they're coming after you, would you rather run.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Into Little Caesars and the waffle house?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oo?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Waffle House?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I think waffle House because they always they've always got
to cook back there. You know how dude's been breaking
up fights every weekend. Yeah, but you may already be
walking into a fight at waffle house.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's true. He may have double duty. That's the risks run.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So you walk into the waffle house, it's already going down,
So it's going to be a distraction from whatever you're
going in running into the guy comes in after you,
he bumps into them. Now, guess what, that's one.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Of the drama you bring in has lost in the
maze because I think, like in the waffle house, your
head's already on a swivel you know already, But are
you expecting that in.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The Little Caesars.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hell No, that's like Ryan Gosling and the movie Fall Guy.
I jumped over the counter.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I have been in some sketchy Little Caesars before.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I would say I have any pizza chain, Little Caesars
would be the one I would expect it. Not a
black Jack Pizza or a Pizza Hut.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
No, no high classes, you know, so Pizza Hut is
high class.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know they have carpet. Yes, now if they bring
the buffet back, they really remember the dessert pizzas.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I used to carry my school and you remember book itt.
I used to carry my school with because I read
so many books. Like I used to carry the school.
We got the pizza party every year just on books
I read. We were hitting the one the whole town,
like we were within in the town book reading competition
on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Dessert pizza. It was so hard.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, I remember, it was absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's seven waffle house. You get dinner in the show,
so you just grab it trying and just move it. Yep.
Sevent toyar oh grant, sorry, you.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Think cinnamon and clothes and Chili is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, shut up? Profit I eli yeah? Uh three h three?
I better Nick.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Any update on contract extensions for Benito and Zach Halla,
Well they're waiting on that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
The whole thing is Nick Benito's playing the market right now.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You wait on because the number for Parsons and number
Henderson just goes up. But he was just sitting there like, dude,
the top five average is gonna go up.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm gonna go up. Why would I sign right now?
I think it's a question.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of who's gonna hit first, because that's the guy who's
gonna sit in the market. Now, if you were Trey
or you and Micah, you don't want Nick to hit first.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, you want the other guy, tray Er, you know,
to hit, and then you hit right after that, and
then your Nick. You want both of those guys to
hit because then you're, like you, the top five is
going up.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
That's exactly how now if you're Nick Benito know one
as though you know Trey Henderson. The Bingles seemed to
be dragging the feet along with Jerry Jones and Dallas.
Would you, by any chance get their numbers? Send them
a text message? Hey guys, remember hold the line.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yes, play, I'm just sending them to hold the lines.
We are in this thing together. Uh huh, yes, you
would be bro Yes, hold it, hold it out. Look
out for your dog, look out for your young pup. Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean cause you gotta think if they go there
around forty million a piece, that makes any funny. Yeah,
he'll be looking at a top five, top seven average
kind of deal. And so every time that average goes up, his.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Number goes up.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And Zach Alla's gonna be like, hold on, now, hold on,
look at the production pauls.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's pump the brakes. Now what about me? Yeah, Yeah,
I'm a cog that makes you sing. Go, I'm the
guy tied up the blockers, you know, so just make
you this thing go. So, so let's play GM for
a second. Right, you get in on this too.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Text line you two as well, if you and George
Peyton and not the creating any division.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This is just for conversation purposes.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You say, well, which guy will you feel is the
most valuable guy out of those two, and you'll be
willing to give that person a bigger bag.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Zach Allen or Nick Benito, option c both of them.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh no, no, let's just say, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Ben you give me Tobyashi, you can't do you got
one or the other man. I can't do both.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That sucks because I love Nick Benido as a player, but
I'm probably taking Zach Allen.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I thought I was gonna be different picking Zach Allen.
Who wait, both of you guys using Zach Allen? Now?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Is this because you're thinking Hugh Robinson has been added
to this team.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He still have Jonah from last season? Is that what
your thinking? You got Jonah in the pipeline? And Zach
has been a guy he does like.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
What he does is so valuable because he still gets
the pressure of the disruption up front, but he's also
taking on more than one guy, freeing it up for
these linebackers to.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Shoot take everyone's job easier. Okay, well, who's to say
if this Devil's advocate?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
If I'm Nick Benito's agent, who was to say that
Nick didn't make it easy for z I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is honestly though, and it's funny because we're both
coming down on the Derek Wolf side of the would
you rather have Derek Wolf or Von Miller?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know that's different. See if anyone asked me that question,
I mean, of course, but you get the idea. Like, conceptually,
it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know, Derek didn't put up as big as numbers
because what he was asked to do was a little
bit different.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But you know, and the same thing with Zach. But
I've seen Zach.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Ewis since Arizona, Like he looked good down there doing
to Arizona, and he's going to cost less. You think
it'd be easier to get that deal done. The first
four to six has my answer.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Which is both and get rid of sudden. Wow, that
wasn't even part of the equations. Yeah, he's looking at
ship him off. She's not only allowed to touch on
football again.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I love I like Corland sud To, I don't like.
I love court side the player.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I hate court in the contract with regard to what
we're gonna have to do to get these other guys side.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
See but now, in order for that to happen to
come into play with the texture, just send in.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You wouldn't need someone else in that receiver room, not
one person, not two people.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You need three guys who.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Are a contract contracts that are team friendly to step
their game up to make that easier. So now here's
what we're talking about. Well, well, Troy Franklin, well he
take that next step granted already.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And guysh I drove, but I'm gonna valet park it.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, you are valet parking man, Well, valet valet whatever
you want to call it. You're already telling call and
Sadden you can take his car and keep it pushing,
keep it driving it on down the road. I don't
know about that one.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Back the way, he came a huge jump though. I
mean that that'll be a massive jump for this offense.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
In bow Nicks, if those young receivers can take their
game to another level.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Does there any talk about Courtland holding out?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And I have not heard me.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think that's in his DNA. I don't think he.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, he did the most holdouty thing he sort
of did was skip voluntary OTA and then they got
a deal done.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then they got and then they spiffed him, you know, back,
So I don't you know, I just don't see that
in his DNA. I see calling being one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Hey, look, you know what we've gone through contract issues,
do I believe I need, you know, some additional money,
the additional funds.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yes, So I'm not gonna hold out. I'm going to
show you that I'm the leader of this young group.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Because anytime calling, if you were to hold out, he's
now given more time to uh bendala.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah right, he's at Yeah. In some case, it's a
twofold dagger.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
By holding out, One you're giving your understudy more reps
to get comfy, and number two, you costing yourself fifty
grand a day holding out.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You know the fine, the fine for holding out. It
does not make sense to hold out.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Holding in makes sense, but holding out does not make
sense at all. And I just can't see him holding
in either. I can't see him just being there. I
can't see him giving up the reps man. I just
can't ston. I don't think he's wired that way. He's
certainly not gonna cost himself money.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, you can sit there and watch other guys try
to replicate your production.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Ryan has one good day and something's right back. Hell no,
I know how I would be out there and I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Sit out there holding for my money, and then all
of a sudden I see somebody elseid gram Smith out there,
you know, bawling, and I'm oh, hell, no film on
a real athlete mustache at all. So my real Magro
official hair right side.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And the girls and mustache. It's over. He's getting paid.
That's all it takes, right, all it takes mustache. This
is no obviously you know it doesn't work. I was
trying to look at me. I was trying to do
the dainty globber bit when we were up there, Nick
and I were.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And big news for you guys, because you're fans of
Broncos Country Night and the Orange and Blue Brunch that
we did last year. We got a We got a
home Baseports this year. All one place, the burn down
over there on South A great place. Yes, every every game,
every way game started with the preseas. We're actually go
preseason parties this year too. So just letting you guys
a little great venue. You'll start to hear the carcoals
run all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Great bar, it's like a four story bar. Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
They get the big projector with the big screen. They
got TVs all over the place.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Great the top, they're great for the top two floors.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You got these great views of the mountains and you
can see that I used to live down by there
when I first open. And that is awesome, live music
all the time, all kinds of stuff. There's a great,
great place.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, say, with me being the Georgia teed guy, I'm
just looking at the building and and I'm just kind
of looking at the structure has put together that exposed wood,
the iron, and I'm looking at the little rivets on
the stairs, and everyone's like, well, what are you doing.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I'm like the architecture man, I'm testing a wall that's
apparently it got his name because whatever it was before
actually burned up. Yeah, they even have of.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Of that whole burning situation with the five fight. So
it's a cool venue. So this year, Ben and I'll
be there. Please come down there and let's chop it up.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And we're we're partnering with the Art of Tequila.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's official Tequila to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Uh, they're gonna be down there as well. It's gonna
be a ton of stuff with all that.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I honestly forgot where I was going with the
original portion of this, but uh, yeah, I wanted to
make sure you guys should get the you know, get
the get the buzz on that. With all that going on,
I have no idea what I originally had a point
with all that. Well, I remember now because I was
thinking about the awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Bar we went to early.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, we were talking about about Corlin and you know
where his place could be here with the Denver Broncos.
But once again, none of that happens unless he is
challenged by some of the young players to elevate their
game to the next level.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So look how I'm hoping that Courtland is here, Zach
Allen is here, Nick Benito is here.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But I just know the price of doing business and
staying competitive comes into play, and you can't keep everyone
unless you get one or two players who are looking
to say, you know what, I want to stay here.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I believe in what we're doing, and I would take
a little haircut.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, and I think I mean yeah, Well, with a
sudden situation, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm not giving reps for the team to have leverage
to sit there and.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Say because if they don't, if they don't come in
a ball out right away, they can say, well, we'll
have a little patience, so get there.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Look at both it took them a couple of games
last year. But if they do come out and ball
out right away, I've lost any leverage that I have.
I just can't see Courtland doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And you know, one of the things that we are
the text with goat six for six is how about
these guys honoring their original deals. Well, they have honored
their deal. The problem is you've gotten to the part
of the deal. There's no guaranteed money, right, so the
team can cut you at any time and all of
a sudden, you have no paycheck, there's no severance, there's
nothing to it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
There's nothing there. That's what that's about.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
But still there is a part of this. And I
know how fans get about contracts. This is what you
signed for. This is a number of years, this is
where you're being paid. But I still think that there's
an opportunity or or a situation where a guy can
outplay his contract. I mean, when I was here with
the Denver Broncos, I watched Clint Porters do it twice.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Right, Yeah, he got a new contract one year. Well yeah,
except and he tried to go back to the worst year.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
He comes in, Hey, Mike, I'll play my contract I'm
gonna need you to a little more money.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Then I like, all right, we got you. And then
the next year Clint contract again, I need you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
To put a little more money, and he's like, I'm
a trader for.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Champagne trended, but still at the same time, he knew
what he was worth it he was producing. It's it's
hard when someone comes to the organization and they're not producing.
It makes it that much that much more difficult. But
Cole and Sudden, there's an elder statesman in that room.
A lot of those guys look up to him. He
(28:02):
has a prime opportunity to help take bowles stats up
to a whole different level, but also stabilize his career,
not just here in the with the Broncos, but across
the league where he gunners that same type of respect.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, and you guys were talking about Terry McLaurin earlier
being quarterback proof. I mean, couldn't you kind of say
the same thing about Courland Sutton A lot of Yeah,
he doesn't put up the same numbers that mclaurin's put off,
but he has had. I mean you look at the
quarterbacks that he's had. I mean, how many quarterbacks are
Sutton and played with between Russ and Stidham and Boe,
and then you go backwards from there and you get
(28:37):
the Brett Rippons, Drew Locks, Joe Flacco's, Brandon Allen's Bridge,
Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So have we seen a fair.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Showing where we can actually evaluate coiling in that particular way, right?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's my question. Yeah, I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I don't know that you can pay money for a
receiver that side of thirty. You know it's gonna be
that side of thirty. You see what d just says,
say it's gonna be the Yes he will.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And this is the type of stuff that that's used against.
Then did start off with, well, let's look at statistically what.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He did even when he was with Rush with ten touchdowns.
The first thing he went to was, well, you know
he's gonna be on the road side of the third.
So well, what I say seekers creeped into the studio.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Are the record deal of bone knicks by paying And
I just don't know that's the case, because if you
do pay him, I'm not sure you get the Benito,
Zach Allen some of the other stuff done. And that's
where you start to worry like, is there enough to
go around while we're on this rookie contract with bone
Nicks and maximizing that free, cheap quarterback window.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Where you've got to hope some of these younger guys hit.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
This year.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So you clearly you said earlier you would rather have
Benito and Allen. I would rather have and Zach Allen
if he had and only one of those two? What
about you? Nick? For me, I'm gonna go with Benito.
Well he only picked out of the three. How did you?
(30:04):
I just offered a suggestion and the question to you guys,
and you turn around on you. Yes, you guys, yes
he's not here. In an honor of Ryan, we have
decided to move the goalpost. You guys can't scoop me
do my question like you did. That's exactly what was
the way with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
So if I had to choose, I would probably say
Courtland and Benito.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So you're just letting Zach Allen go. You're like, no, bro,
we don't need you. Well, apparently, an yeah, you asked,
you asked me this question. I gave you my answer.
I'm sticking right there. And I'm sticking to it. Yeah,
I don't know. That's not try.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I would keep the defense intact and find if your
quarterback is that good, he'll elevate whatever the next receiver is.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's all you got to do. In the Sean Paygon
offense over there, you actually just span the slant. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
To me, I don't subscribe to that, because that's the idea,
is that that quarterback is going to make everyone else better.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's what they do, right. If wide receiver could make could.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Make If wide receivers made quarterbacks better, all the Arizona
quarterbacks that came after Kurt Warner would have been all
right because they were throwing a Larry Fitzgerald and and
Kwan Bolden, and you understand, we got Ryan Lindley, Kevin Kahal,
But all those guys that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Couldn't do anything. See, because a lot of that has
to do with timing.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
If you're rob receiver, kn't a quarterback couldn't throw the
ball out on time and hit.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
His receivers strike.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
If that Robin siber K creates space or when he
gets open, he can't hauled in the past, I mean,
that's that's different. Those dudes kind of came up and
they were I'm not gonna say elape, they were free, elite,
they were efficient receivers at that particular point. The Broncos
as a group, they're not there yet, right, They're not
(31:43):
there yet. So for for me, it's I'm glad Colin
is reporting the camp and I'm expecting him to go
out there and show everyone what he can do because
he's saying for him the idea.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I'm gonna send a message to my naysayers.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm gonna see the mesage to the organization, and I'm
gonna send a message to the players in the room.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
No disrespect, but just just know what this is.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's the business of football. You're not the only one
that controls this. I'm controlling the two. So I'm gonna
go out there and I'm gonna let you know. I
know you coming from my job, but I'm not willing
to relinquish it. So you better bring your a game
because if you come with the B minus the C minus,
you might as well.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Sit your ass them as online.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, I'm not giving my guys a chance, Like if
I'm calling, I'm not giving guys a chance to surp me.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
But at the same time. I mean, like we drafted
these young guys for a reason. You got a quarterback
on a rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You gotta figure out how you're gonna position this thing
to maximize the next three years of boon X before
you get to fit to your option and the extension.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But now those players, those young players, now they have
to elevate their level of play.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Listen, sign me up.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I'm all for it because it's going to make the
young wide receivers better, it's gonna make bow better, it's
gonna force Champayne to call a better game, and it's
also gonna increase the value and the production of calling
sudden So this is why you have competition.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, the twenty ten Arizona Cardinals, that's the UH that's
two years removed from the Super Bowl's. They lost the
division and they did this two room UH threw ten
total passing touchdowns that season. They had Larry Fitzgerald and
they threw. If it were possible for wide receivers to
elevate quarterbacks, you would.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I mean, I just don't even know what to say
that it was going embarrassingly bad.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's a lot that goes into it from protection balance
in your offensive scheme, running and passing and also play calling.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean yeah, but I mean you had ten total
passing touchdowns for the year.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's hilariously bad. They were offensively deficient. They were something
Niemik doesn't even begin to cover it like it was.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's just like I can't even between Derek Anderson, John Skelton,
Max Hall, Richard Bartel, and yes, even wide receiver Steve
Breston through passes. They managed to scrape together ten touchdowns
and nineteen interceptions on the season.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Makes Tim Tebow to look like Peyton Man. He always
sports back after this
Welcome back to it, kat Wait Sports. No rider day
been a nick in today.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ryanderwards will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I believe I'll be riding Shotgun with him after the
Rockies tomorrow. Grand Smith probably probably back there as well.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I'm always here, He's always here. He lives here. They
got out.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
They've installed a secret bedroom for the Grant Smith.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He just lives here in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Up five six six nine zero is the text line.
A couple of Saints, our former Saints retire today. Tyrann
Matthew Honey Badger announced his retirement. Daln Holker from CSU
just got picked up by the by the Saints of
Seas inter Cue announced his retirement from football just a
few minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Look, man, retirement from anything is always definitely tough. And
I watched retirement video for Philip Rivers and to watch
him relive some.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Of his high points and low.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Points and realized, finally, even though you know he's been
retired a couple of years, to realize that that dream
that you had as a youngster growing up, now it's
come to an official end and you cannot put the
toothpaste back.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Into the two. Colt's legend Philip Rivers bro Le. Yeah,
we were talking about I was talk about this yesterday
because Phil Rivers had played since twenty twenty and he's
had five years. I mean the attack, I think we
all figured he was retired.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But with that, just that reality.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Man, you know that the chapter has closed your athleticism
and the lack of lets.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, but then Tom starts to move on, and then.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
People start interviewing you, asking questions, and you just relive
it all over again, and the emotion that you didn't
show at the very beginning. It all started crashing down
because you start looking at today's players and you look
at how the game has continued to be the same
but still change at the same time.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's so funny when you go back and you look,
because Phil Rivers had the most unorthodox throwing motion too,
like he was pushing it, like he was launching it
like a medieval Trevische down the field, and he still
had one of the the highest most accurate passers of
all time. You know, as far as stuff, David and
I were debating that because I mean, I think he
belongs in the Hall of Fame. I just don't know
that he's gonna get it given the lack of playoff success,
(02:24):
and he's in there. Allow, he's in the top ten
in like every passing category.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, once again it goes back.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And then this is the argument I have with people
when we started looking at probos and hall of fames, Right,
what are some of the characteristics. Now, some would automatically say, well,
in order to be considered for the Hall of Fame,
you need to have played in the super Bowl, And
that's not true. I mean another San Diego quarterback, and
(02:53):
Dan Fouts is in a Pro Football Hall of Fame,
not because the amount of playoffs or Super Bowl appearances,
but being in the Eric Coriol offense and how he
matriculated the ball down the field. And as a guy
who has played against Philip Rivers, I would say that
dude definitely deserves to be and or he has earned
(03:15):
that deserves he's earned the right to be there statistically,
even though he doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
A Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I mean that's one of those things. I think
he deserves to be there based on all that. But
I just don't know, Like it's one of those things
where you're like, all right, is Matt Ryan deserve the
Hall of Fame? Because the resume is like Matt Ryan
might even have a stronger resume in terms of you
at least he got to a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yes, I would dare to say Matt Ryan does to
be needs to be mentioned in that category, even though
I think it's what three hundred and eighty two guys,
you know, with the class that's going in now in
this totality.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But yeah, I mean, were you extraordinary?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Matt Ryan was the MVP of the league the year
that they went to the Super Bowl and he lost
to Brady.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, twenty eight three. That counts for something.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, Oh yeah, I think it does. Some other stuff
from around in the league. Terry McLaren officially holding out
in Washington.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Holding out, Hold it in out, hold it out.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
We'll be fined fifty thousand dollars per day. He's approaching
the third year of a three year or sixty point
four million dollar contract with an average of twenty two
point eight uh in there. And obviously there's a surging
market amongst receivers. Now you've got multiple receivers making more
than thirty million dollars annually, and that's what he's seeking,
is roughly thirty million annually. McLaren is approaching his age
(04:35):
thirty season this year, where lead performance after thirty years
old is not.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Normally the norm.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Adam Peters said, everybody in the building values Terry so much.
They've had conversations. We're going to do everything we can
to get a deal done. I expect something to be
done in the next week week.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Got see see.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I know coach speak when I hear it, and usually
that's the tradition. You know, we value you and we
value everything that you bring to the group.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Okay, it shall do.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Show me, well, exactly how much do you value?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
How much we can literally put a number on it, Yes, exactly,
And then you could say, well, using the factors that
are always use against players, well, look look at his age,
and to me, that is not a barometer that you
can use for every single player, because there are certain
guys who are still ascending.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Outside of the you know, twenty seventh birthday. Yeah, so
you can't compare me to someone else my age.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Look at my production. Now he's been quarterback proof. Look
at the guys that have been throwing to him. Forget
Jake Dannis for minute. Look at guys that have been
throwing to mclarino of the course of his career and
the numbers that he's put up.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
He's been quarterback proof.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You could add some the worst guy Sam Howels out there, Yeah,
and just put up thousand yard seasons.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And to me, this is now.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't expect watching them an AP to look at
it this way, because no one thinks about giving you money.
They think about taking it away from right. But what
you said is true and if I'm his camp, that's
what I'm preaching. Look at the numbers I consistently put up,
but now you're starting to put talent around me, my
numbers can go up even more.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm thinking with Deebo Samuel being.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
There, that should help out him a lot as far
as drawing, like single coverage.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Another guy that's looking to get paid and did not
show up, Trey Hendrickson. The Bungles continue to be the Bungles,
Christmas Chris Smith's favorite team.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
What it is paid people, that's who they're not.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I talked before the show Western Joe Burrow played somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I didn't have to root for those owners.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You could always change your team, Yeah, I mean what
Joe Burrow does Okay, well, Mike Brown continues to be
a laughing stock.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
One of to tea his owners in the league.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Trey Henderson is down in Jacksonville, Florida. He lives in Cincinnati.
He left to go on vacation. Uh and instead of
reporting to training camp. It does not have a deal,
saying and I'm quoting here, the offer was quote atrociously
atrociously low and did not include any money guaranteed to
be on one year.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That sounds astrociously like the Bengos, right.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
This is something that they have done for years, almost
trying to strong arm, grant, strong arm their own players.
And it's not as though we're talking about a mediocre player.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
We're talking about the best player.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
On your team, and by for one of the better
defensive guys in the league.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And this is how you're gonna treat him like nah. Well,
it's not just the veterans. They're doing it to a
rookie too.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Shamar Stewart still doesn't have a deal, one of only
two players from the draft class without one, the other
being quinched On Judkins who was just arrested, and the
Browns put a pin in that after Will Johnson signed today.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
So with the last guys left. And the one part
of this that I keep laughing at.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Mike Brown came out yesterday and was doing some damage control,
trying to say, well, this.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Is the same language everybody else has. Buddy, I've seen
the language. It is not the same language everybody else has.
The Bengals have put in a clause in the in
this contract.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Now, conceptually there are clauses and other people's contracts that
allow teams to recoup money if they get in trouble
for off field stuff. The language of the Bengals put
in allows them to take the contract to go year
to year and look at injuries or off field or
whatever and basically void your guarantees and recoup money based
on that. It is not the same deal anybody assigned.
(08:18):
And there's no reason that anybody should sign.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
See this speaks to an organization who is kind of
cast strapped, right because now you're nickeling diming your own players,
not just you know, a veteran player or a rookie player.
But but to the credit of the Bengals, they're saying
they are being fair.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It is It isn't them that's being unfair.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It is Samar Stewart's camp and his advisors who are
being unfair as far as telling him not to sign.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
They did because Cincinnati said we did nothing wrong, but
they did. They put a new clause in there.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
This total total nonsense and they claiming that everybody else
has it ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
See, they need to sit down, enjoy some skyline chilly
and just get this deal done.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
What do you say about that grant?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
They need to get this deal. Whether that's Skyline killer
or not, that'll just be the icing on time. Dallas
Cowboys and Michael Parsons still haven't got something done. Yesterday,
Jerry Jones threw Dak Prescott and Michael Parsons under the bus.
Today when Michael Parsons was available to the media down
(09:30):
there at Dallas training camp, he told everybody that his agent,
David Mulgatta, had called the Cowboys last week and nobody's
gotten back to him. That's how you run an organization,
right there?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Are are you surprised concern?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
In fact that it's it's been a while since we've
actually come to know the Dallas Cowboys as far as
making a comeback to the Super Bowl, And even though
they haven't done that in a long time. They're still
one of the more talked about teams.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
In the league.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Every single year, there's been Cowboys fans that were not
born and now have kids that haven't seen the Cowboys
make an af or an NFC championship game. So it's time,
the longest drought in the league, it's time.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
To change the channel at that point, is it not.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's okay if you're abandon your mom and your grandparents
team to pick another team that's really putting their best
foot forward.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's barely invented. The last time twitter or.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Didn't exist and would not exist for ten more years
the last time I know.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Listen, Jerry is one of the most creative guys in
the league when it comes to brokering big deals, broadcasting deals,
things like that. He knows how to rake in the dollars.
But haven't we seen this movie before? He's done this.
He did it with Emmitt Smith, he did it with
(11:07):
Ceedee Lamb, he did it with Dad Prescott.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Now you're doing it again with you know, your your.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Best pass rusher, you know on your team, Michael Parsons.
And we all know that the price is not gonna
go down. There's no such thing as like when you
buy a car, as soon as you take it off
the dealership, it depreciates. Michael Parson's productivity is only going
to increase.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's just funny to me. And the decisions that they make,
they I mean, you know who this is benefiting. With
Trey Hendrickson and Michael Parsons not being signed yet, you
know who that's benefiting, Nick Benito, Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
A lot of nights over there. It's so funny to watch.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And the Dallas thing is so weird because, I mean
they let Jason Garrett be the head coach there forever
and he went.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
To the playoffs three times.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Dallas went to the playoffs three times while Jason Garrett
was the head coach.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That is inane.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Jerry Jones had a certain level of affinity for Garrett
because he was once a backup quarterback de Troy Aikman.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The Willias Phillips after three seasons, two of which he
went to the playoffs to bring in Jason Garrett, who
was there for a decade and went three times.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well here's what we know about Jerry. I mean, they
don't call it Jerry whirl for no reason. Jerry wants
to be in the mix. He wants to be making
all of his decisions right. Business decisions are great, but
business decision when it comes to the business and football
hasn't really been so.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Great for his team, not lately.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And it's funny because it wasn't like that those teams
l Jation Garsteam didn't have a ton of talent. You
had Jason Whitten and des Bryant, DeMarco Murray, Cole Beasley,
Miles Austin.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean, you had all Cantoni Romo throwing the ball, one.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Of the best offensive lines in football. And that's without
getting into the defensive side of things. Or for years
they had guys like DeMarcus Ware, Orlando Scandric and you
know Olse guys.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But Keith it in mind, see.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I know the fields is though Micah may not have
any leverage, but with the Cowboys not being relevant as
far as playoff recognition to Super Bowl, they're still in
a tough division. They may be how some feel the
Raiders are in the AFC West, They may be viewed
(13:37):
like that in the East because the first game of
the season against the Philadelphia Eagles, and if I am
Michael Parsons, I'm gonna play it this way. I'm glad
he reported the camp and unlike McLaurin, I'm not gonna
hold out. I'm gonna hold in. M stay there, not practice,
(13:57):
wait to that first game.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Let him lose it and watch Derrika mccrala.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Right now, micause they hold up. Somebody answered the phone.
Can't waite sports back it for this? No see, I
call him. And I always sorted by the worst ones
because I want to see what it kind of experiences
people had. But this one, this five star review on
Yelp came in, and I have to.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Read this to you. It's unrelated to anything Elf for
doing here, but it's it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Kevin gave a five star review to a Little Caesar's location.
So I stopped in the Little Caesars just trying to
get a six dollar pizza and ended up in a
full on action movie. Just as I grab my order,
this furious dude barches in, yelling about how I cut
him off in traffic earlier, and before I can even respond,
throws a punch and then out of nowhere, the guy
(14:49):
behind the counter jumps.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Over it like he's been waiting for this moment.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
His whole life and beats the living hell out of
the guy. The guy ran off the cashier dusted himself
off instead of you, okay, man, look me dead the
eye and said, Bro, this is Little Caesars.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
We're always hot and ready. Five stars will absolutely return.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Kevin s that dude was waiting for that moment because
he had that line prepared, which like who has Like
if you if you cut someone off in traffic and
they're coming after you, would you rather run.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Into Little Caesars and the waffle house?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Oo?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Waffle House?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I think waffle House because they always they've always got
to cook back there. You know how dude's been breaking
up fights every weekend. Yeah, but you may already be
walking into a fight at waffle house.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's true. He may have double duty. That's the risks run.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So you walk into the waffle house, it's already going down,
So it's going to be a distraction from whatever you're
going in running into the guy comes in after you,
he bumps into them. Now, guess what, that's one.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Of the drama you bring in has lost in the
maze because I think, like in the waffle house, your
head's already on a swivel you know already, But are
you expecting that in.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The Little Caesars.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hell No, that's like Ryan Gosling and the movie Fall Guy.
I jumped over the counter.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I have been in some sketchy Little Caesars before.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I would say I have any pizza chain, Little Caesars
would be the one I would expect it. Not a
black Jack Pizza or a Pizza Hut.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
No, no high classes, you know, so Pizza Hut is
high class.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know they have carpet. Yes, now if they bring
the buffet back, they really remember the dessert pizzas.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, dude.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I used to carry my school and you remember book itt.
I used to carry my school with because I read
so many books. Like I used to carry the school.
We got the pizza party every year just on books
I read. We were hitting the one the whole town,
like we were within in the town book reading competition
on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Dessert pizza. It was so hard.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, I remember, it was absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's seven waffle house. You get dinner in the show,
so you just grab it trying and just move it. Yep.
Sevent toyar oh grant, sorry, you.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Think cinnamon and clothes and Chili is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, shut up? Profit I eli yeah? Uh three h three?
I better Nick.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Any update on contract extensions for Benito and Zach Halla,
Well they're waiting on that.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
The whole thing is Nick Benito's playing the market right now.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You wait on because the number for Parsons and number
Henderson just goes up. But he was just sitting there like, dude,
the top five average is gonna go up.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I'm gonna go up. Why would I sign right now?
I think it's a question.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Of who's gonna hit first, because that's the guy who's
gonna sit in the market. Now, if you were Trey
or you and Micah, you don't want Nick to hit first.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, you want the other guy, tray Er, you know,
to hit, and then you hit right after that, and
then your Nick. You want both of those guys to
hit because then you're, like you, the top five is
going up.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
That's exactly how now if you're Nick Benito know one
as though you know Trey Henderson. The Bingles seemed to
be dragging the feet along with Jerry Jones and Dallas.
Would you, by any chance get their numbers? Send them
a text message? Hey guys, remember hold the line.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yes, play, I'm just sending them to hold the lines.
We are in this thing together. Uh huh, yes, you
would be bro Yes, hold it, hold it out. Look
out for your dog, look out for your young pup. Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean cause you gotta think if they go there
around forty million a piece, that makes any funny. Yeah,
he'll be looking at a top five, top seven average
kind of deal. And so every time that average goes up, his.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Number goes up.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And Zach Alla's gonna be like, hold on, now, hold on,
look at the production pauls.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's pump the brakes. Now what about me? Yeah, Yeah,
I'm a cog that makes you sing. Go, I'm the
guy tied up the blockers, you know, so just make
you this thing go. So, so let's play GM for
a second. Right, you get in on this too.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Text line you two as well, if you and George
Peyton and not the creating any division.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This is just for conversation purposes.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You say, well, which guy will you feel is the
most valuable guy out of those two, and you'll be
willing to give that person a bigger bag.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Zach Allen or Nick Benito, option c both of them.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh no, no, let's just say, you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Ben you give me Tobyashi, you can't do you got
one or the other man. I can't do both.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That sucks because I love Nick Benido as a player, but
I'm probably taking Zach Allen.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I thought I was gonna be different picking Zach Allen.
Who wait, both of you guys using Zach Allen? Now?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Is this because you're thinking Hugh Robinson has been added
to this team.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He still have Jonah from last season? Is that what
your thinking? You got Jonah in the pipeline? And Zach
has been a guy he does like.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
What he does is so valuable because he still gets
the pressure of the disruption up front, but he's also
taking on more than one guy, freeing it up for
these linebackers to.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Shoot take everyone's job easier. Okay, well, who's to say
if this Devil's advocate?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
If I'm Nick Benito's agent, who was to say that
Nick didn't make it easy for z I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This is honestly though, and it's funny because we're both
coming down on the Derek Wolf side of the would
you rather have Derek Wolf or Von Miller?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know that's different. See if anyone asked me that question,
I mean, of course, but you get the idea. Like, conceptually,
it's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know, Derek didn't put up as big as numbers
because what he was asked to do was a little
bit different.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
But you know, and the same thing with Zach. But
I've seen Zach.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Ewis since Arizona, Like he looked good down there doing
to Arizona, and he's going to cost less. You think
it'd be easier to get that deal done. The first
four to six has my answer.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Which is both and get rid of sudden. Wow, that
wasn't even part of the equations. Yeah, he's looking at
ship him off. She's not only allowed to touch on
football again.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I love I like Corland sud To, I don't like.
I love court side the player.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I hate court in the contract with regard to what
we're gonna have to do to get these other guys side.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
See but now, in order for that to happen to
come into play with the texture, just send in.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You wouldn't need someone else in that receiver room, not
one person, not two people.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You need three guys who.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Are a contract contracts that are team friendly to step
their game up to make that easier. So now here's
what we're talking about. Well, well, Troy Franklin, well he
take that next step granted already.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Okay, So.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And guysh I drove, but I'm gonna valet park it.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, you are valet parking man, Well, valet valet whatever
you want to call it. You're already telling call and
Sadden you can take his car and keep it pushing,
keep it driving it on down the road. I don't
know about that one.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Back the way, he came a huge jump though. I
mean that that'll be a massive jump for this offense.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
In bow Nicks, if those young receivers can take their
game to another level.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Does there any talk about Courtland holding out?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And I have not heard me.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think that's in his DNA. I don't think he.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean, he did the most holdouty thing he sort
of did was skip voluntary OTA and then they got
a deal done.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then they got and then they spiffed him, you know, back,
So I don't you know, I just don't see that
in his DNA. I see calling being one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Hey, look, you know what we've gone through contract issues,
do I believe I need, you know, some additional money,
the additional funds.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yes, So I'm not gonna hold out. I'm going to
show you that I'm the leader of this young group.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Because anytime calling, if you were to hold out, he's
now given more time to uh bendala.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah right, he's at Yeah. In some case, it's a
twofold dagger.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
By holding out, One you're giving your understudy more reps
to get comfy, and number two, you costing yourself fifty
grand a day holding out.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You know the fine, the fine for holding out. It
does not make sense to hold out.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Holding in makes sense, but holding out does not make
sense at all. And I just can't see him holding
in either. I can't see him just being there. I
can't see him giving up the reps man. I just
can't ston. I don't think he's wired that way. He's
certainly not gonna cost himself money.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, you can sit there and watch other guys try
to replicate your production.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Ryan has one good day and something's right back. Hell no,
I know how I would be out there and I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Sit out there holding for my money, and then all
of a sudden I see somebody elseid gram Smith out there,
you know, bawling, and I'm oh, hell, no film on
a real athlete mustache at all. So my real Magro
official hair right side.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
And the girls and mustache. It's over. He's getting paid.
That's all it takes, right, all it takes mustache. This
is no obviously you know it doesn't work. I was
trying to look at me. I was trying to do
the dainty globber bit when we were up there, Nick
and I were.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And big news for you guys, because you're fans of
Broncos Country Night and the Orange and Blue Brunch that
we did last year. We got a We got a
home Baseports this year. All one place, the burn down
over there on South A great place. Yes, every every game,
every way game started with the preseas. We're actually go
preseason parties this year too. So just letting you guys
a little great venue. You'll start to hear the carcoals
run all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Great bar, it's like a four story bar. Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
They get the big projector with the big screen. They
got TVs all over the place.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Great the top, they're great for the top two floors.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You got these great views of the mountains and you
can see that I used to live down by there
when I first open. And that is awesome, live music
all the time, all kinds of stuff. There's a great,
great place.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, say, with me being the Georgia teed guy, I'm
just looking at the building and and I'm just kind
of looking at the structure has put together that exposed wood,
the iron, and I'm looking at the little rivets on
the stairs, and everyone's like, well, what are you doing.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I'm like the architecture man, I'm testing a wall that's
apparently it got his name because whatever it was before
actually burned up. Yeah, they even have of.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Of that whole burning situation with the five fight. So
it's a cool venue. So this year, Ben and I'll
be there. Please come down there and let's chop it up.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And we're we're partnering with the Art of Tequila.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
It's official Tequila to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Uh, they're gonna be down there as well. It's gonna
be a ton of stuff with all that.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I honestly forgot where I was going with the
original portion of this, but uh, yeah, I wanted to
make sure you guys should get the you know, get
the get the buzz on that. With all that going on,
I have no idea what I originally had a point
with all that. Well, I remember now because I was
thinking about the awesome.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Bar we went to early.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, we were talking about about Corlin and you know
where his place could be here with the Denver Broncos.
But once again, none of that happens unless he is
challenged by some of the young players to elevate their
game to the next level.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So look how I'm hoping that Courtland is here, Zach
Allen is here, Nick Benito is here.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But I just know the price of doing business and
staying competitive comes into play, and you can't keep everyone
unless you get one or two players who are looking
to say, you know what, I want to stay here.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I believe in what we're doing, and I would take
a little haircut.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, and I think I mean yeah, Well, with a
sudden situation, I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm not giving reps for the team to have leverage
to sit there and.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Say because if they don't, if they don't come in
a ball out right away, they can say, well, we'll
have a little patience, so get there.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Look at both it took them a couple of games
last year. But if they do come out and ball
out right away, I've lost any leverage that I have.
I just can't see Courtland doing something like that.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And you know, one of the things that we are
the text with goat six for six is how about
these guys honoring their original deals. Well, they have honored
their deal. The problem is you've gotten to the part
of the deal. There's no guaranteed money, right, so the
team can cut you at any time and all of
a sudden, you have no paycheck, there's no severance, there's
nothing to it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
There's nothing there. That's what that's about.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
But still there is a part of this. And I
know how fans get about contracts. This is what you
signed for. This is a number of years, this is
where you're being paid. But I still think that there's
an opportunity or or a situation where a guy can
outplay his contract. I mean, when I was here with
the Denver Broncos, I watched Clint Porters do it twice.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Right, Yeah, he got a new contract one year. Well yeah,
except and he tried to go back to the worst year.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
He comes in, Hey, Mike, I'll play my contract I'm
gonna need you to a little more money.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Then I like, all right, we got you. And then
the next year Clint contract again, I need you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
To put a little more money, and he's like, I'm
a trader for.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Champagne trended, but still at the same time, he knew
what he was worth it he was producing. It's it's
hard when someone comes to the organization and they're not producing.
It makes it that much that much more difficult. But
Cole and Sudden, there's an elder statesman in that room.
A lot of those guys look up to him. He
(28:02):
has a prime opportunity to help take bowles stats up
to a whole different level, but also stabilize his career,
not just here in the with the Broncos, but across
the league where he gunners that same type of respect.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well, and you guys were talking about Terry McLaurin earlier
being quarterback proof. I mean, couldn't you kind of say
the same thing about Courland Sutton A lot of Yeah,
he doesn't put up the same numbers that mclaurin's put off,
but he has had. I mean you look at the
quarterbacks that he's had. I mean, how many quarterbacks are
Sutton and played with between Russ and Stidham and Boe,
and then you go backwards from there and you get
(28:37):
the Brett Rippons, Drew Locks, Joe Flacco's, Brandon Allen's Bridge,
Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
So have we seen a fair.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Showing where we can actually evaluate coiling in that particular way, right?
Speaker 2 (28:50):
That's my question. Yeah, I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I don't know that you can pay money for a
receiver that side of thirty. You know it's gonna be
that side of thirty. You see what d just says,
say it's gonna be the Yes he will.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And this is the type of stuff that that's used against.
Then did start off with, well, let's look at statistically what.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He did even when he was with Rush with ten touchdowns.
The first thing he went to was, well, you know
he's gonna be on the road side of the third.
So well, what I say seekers creeped into the studio.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Are the record deal of bone knicks by paying And
I just don't know that's the case, because if you
do pay him, I'm not sure you get the Benito,
Zach Allen some of the other stuff done. And that's
where you start to worry like, is there enough to
go around while we're on this rookie contract with bone
Nicks and maximizing that free, cheap quarterback window.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Where you've got to hope some of these younger guys hit.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
This year.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
So you clearly you said earlier you would rather have
Benito and Allen. I would rather have and Zach Allen
if he had and only one of those two? What
about you? Nick? For me, I'm gonna go with Benito.
Well he only picked out of the three. How did you?
(30:04):
I just offered a suggestion and the question to you guys,
and you turn around on you. Yes, you guys, yes
he's not here. In an honor of Ryan, we have
decided to move the goalpost. You guys can't scoop me
do my question like you did. That's exactly what was
the way with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
So if I had to choose, I would probably say
Courtland and Benito.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So you're just letting Zach Allen go. You're like, no, bro,
we don't need you. Well, apparently, an yeah, you asked,
you asked me this question. I gave you my answer.
I'm sticking right there. And I'm sticking to it. Yeah,
I don't know. That's not try.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I would keep the defense intact and find if your
quarterback is that good, he'll elevate whatever the next receiver is.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That's all you got to do. In the Sean Paygon
offense over there, you actually just span the slant. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
To me, I don't subscribe to that, because that's the idea,
is that that quarterback is going to make everyone else better.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
That's what they do, right. If wide receiver could make could.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Make If wide receivers made quarterbacks better, all the Arizona
quarterbacks that came after Kurt Warner would have been all
right because they were throwing a Larry Fitzgerald and and
Kwan Bolden, and you understand, we got Ryan Lindley, Kevin Kahal,
But all those guys that.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Couldn't do anything. See, because a lot of that has
to do with timing.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
If you're rob receiver, kn't a quarterback couldn't throw the
ball out on time and hit.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
His receivers strike.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
If that Robin siber K creates space or when he
gets open, he can't hauled in the past, I mean,
that's that's different. Those dudes kind of came up and
they were I'm not gonna say elape, they were free, elite,
they were efficient receivers at that particular point. The Broncos
as a group, they're not there yet, right, They're not
(31:43):
there yet. So for for me, it's I'm glad Colin
is reporting the camp and I'm expecting him to go
out there and show everyone what he can do because
he's saying for him the idea.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I'm gonna send a message to my naysayers.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm gonna see the mesage to the organization, and I'm
gonna send a message to the players in the room.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
No disrespect, but just just know what this is.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's the business of football. You're not the only one
that controls this. I'm controlling the two. So I'm gonna
go out there and I'm gonna let you know. I
know you coming from my job, but I'm not willing
to relinquish it. So you better bring your a game
because if you come with the B minus the C minus,
you might as well.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Sit your ass them as online.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, I'm not giving my guys a chance, Like if
I'm calling, I'm not giving guys a chance to surp me.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
But at the same time. I mean, like we drafted
these young guys for a reason. You got a quarterback
on a rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
You gotta figure out how you're gonna position this thing
to maximize the next three years of boon X before
you get to fit to your option and the extension.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But now those players, those young players, now they have
to elevate their level of play.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Listen, sign me up.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I'm all for it because it's going to make the
young wide receivers better, it's gonna make bow better, it's
gonna force Champayne to call a better game, and it's
also gonna increase the value and the production of calling
sudden So this is why you have competition.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, the twenty ten Arizona Cardinals, that's the UH that's
two years removed from the Super Bowl's. They lost the
division and they did this two room UH threw ten
total passing touchdowns that season. They had Larry Fitzgerald and
they threw. If it were possible for wide receivers to
elevate quarterbacks, you would.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I mean, I just don't even know what to say
that it was going embarrassingly bad.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
There's a lot that goes into it from protection balance
in your offensive scheme, running and passing and also play calling.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I mean yeah, but I mean you had ten total
passing touchdowns for the year.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's hilariously bad. They were offensively deficient. They were something
Niemik doesn't even begin to cover it like it was.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
That's just like I can't even between Derek Anderson, John Skelton,
Max Hall, Richard Bartel, and yes, even wide receiver Steve
Breston through passes. They managed to scrape together ten touchdowns
and nineteen interceptions on the season.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Makes Tim Tebow to look like Peyton Man. He always
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