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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ryan Edwards along with Nick Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's up, Nick, what's going on? Ryan? It's a beautiful
back together Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Indeed, indeed it is is a gorgeous morning out here
Broncos Park.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Power by common Spirit.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
For I don't know, day two, Day four, I guess
depends on how you want to sort of chop this
stuff thing up.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I started from the.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Social media side of things, tweeting about it on a
Wednesday is day one, and then you know, it's one
of those.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Things you get, you get escalated and you can't go back.
So now I have to I have to stick the
day for it. So it's day four of Broncos training
camp for me, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's day four for you. But I think the most
important thing is how do the players look at the
situation and knowing as though things are gonna wrap up
next week. To me, you loving this practice, and you
know what, I think I could come back and play. Really,
I think I could come back and play. Yeah, yes,
I mean you look like, yeah, well you know I
mean that.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The most commimentaries you always you always read into what
I'm saying as though I'm some kind of kind of
dig I legitimately, like you know, you walk around.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And be like, hey man, you can go, yeah, I can.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I got about thirty forty plays in me, I think,
and especially with training camp being what it is, it's
called to a day practice but technically it's only one day.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But let's be honest, and I appreciate everything you're doing here.
And you know, I'm not saying we couldn't use safety help,
but you guys hate training camp like you. I have
never met a player that got amped about this time
of year, not one.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, Now you'd be the first.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
And then you know and use some unique perspectives on things,
so maybe you are the first to pre be here
at Broncos Park power rec comments Bur and be like,
you know what I missed training camp. I missed the grind.
You know what, hey, coach, let's do two a day's again.
I'm gonna scratch out my CBA. I want to do
to today's impads.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But see that's the thing Ryan that kind of puts
this in perspective why no player really likes two A
days because it's it was a too a day practice
like true to days like this, you will love this.
This is club med I mean the first couple of
days you said, this is the fourth day was a rev.
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You got on shorts, you got on spider pats, you know.
And the practices are like an hour hour and a half.
It's not intensive, it's not as competitive as it once was.
So yes, both you and I can go out there
and star I'm making plays.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I got it. Yes, hear.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
This is more of a commentary on you had to
walk uphill both ways and these guys that's what.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's not what I said. That's not what I said.
I didn't have to walk up heel that had snows
and I had flats on and fly. No, No, that's
not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that today's
training camp. And you gotta think about it. The players
collective bargain for this type of training camp over all
the other things, right that they want to chill practice, right,
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they don't want to get suspended for weed, but this
is what they get, right, Come on, they don't want
to get suspended for weed. You got your priorities, and
obviously their priorities are not in the right place. But
both you I, you know, Dead Temper and a Ron
we can go out there and we can at least
give them, you know, ten reps a period. I take
the first period, and then we go so on and
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so forth.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
You take the cooler period when it's nicer out because
once we get to the.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Heat, like noon.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I hear you, and you know what, from every player
I've ever talked to, And again, I've been covering this
my sixteenth camp, So I do remember two days, obviously
not as a player, but I remember being out here
and boy, for the media, is standing out in the
sun for two practices a day brutal?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Brutal.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, and just think about it. I mean, practically the
same experience.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
No, it's not, it is not. You standing on the
side watching for two practices are in totally different than
running around mastering your body up against another human being,
trying to make a team. Going all out. I mean
the media, you know, what's going all out on the
media is comparing notes as far as well, who did
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what in practice? That's going all out. It's totally different. Yes,
that's all I'm saying. What is it? What is it?
It's a beautiful day. We're gonna soak it up. The
Broncos get an opportunity to come out on the field
and compete for one practice.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
For one practice, one practice, ivy fit into the course.
I need you to give me everything you got.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
For what practice practice? How many times we hear coaches
talking about, you know, one play, you know, playing for
that one play, that one possession. No it's not, but
that's that's coach speak, right, That's that's what you have
to do. Find ways to motivate players in this environment
in training camp. The idea is that I shouldn't have
to motivate you. You should be motivated by the idea
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of you're trying to make it to the opening day
and you're trying to make sure that you keep your job.
How can you not be motivated by the fact of
keeping your job.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Listen, I'm here, We're here on a Saturday morning, absolutely
motivated to.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yes, I'm very excited to be here, man.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
And I didn't even need a pep talk from Tepper,
like our boss Tepper, I didn't need him to like
yet last night and say hey, I need one play
or three hours tomorrow morning from you the last show
you'll ever like.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Whoa what? No, he didn't have to do any of that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So I wanted to be so you're halfway ready to
go out there and take the field. All we needed.
It gets you a journey, some short some cleats and help.
Let's go. Yeah, ready to go.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm for espresso shots into this thing, So yes, I'm ready.
I feel like running around anyway, because I don't usually
drink that much espresso.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Why did you drink so much? We we got a kitten.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Nobody cares about this because we're out here talking about
practice and I will tell everybody what we saw yesterday,
and I want to get treat insights and all that.
But we got a kitten who is wonderful during the daytime,
soft cuddly naps all day long, no turno, knock, turnal
as in every like you'll be sleeping and then all
of a sudden, a claw to the face and like vicious,
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like trying to eat you. So yeah, we're still figuring
that out. Yeah, we locked her out, but then she
now was in close at the door, and then you
let her back in and say, okay, that was that
was the last time.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
This cat sounds more like a dog than cat.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Kind of yeah, a little bit, but you know again,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You make adjustments. New member of the family. Will figure
it out. But in the meantime, less sleep and so
nine am. Ryan has to have four shots of his bress.
That's what this is.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So that means just like coach Payton has to do
every single play make adjustments, you now have to do
the same thing. So so so what's in the playbook?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Look at you?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You know finding what's in the playbook? Man?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You are radio pro, yes, segue, so appreciate it. That's amazing. Absolutely,
you know Ben who usually says same with me.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Could it ever, that's the difference between Ben and I.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
That's right, yes, yeah, they would have just talked about
himself and his hair in his tight pants.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well that's a little too much detail right there, right, it.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Is for everybody. I've been telling him for years, like
nobody wants to hear about your pants, dude. But by
the way, the listeners right now, if you're used to
you hearing Colon Clint's we appreciate you guys tuning in
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Speaker 1 (07:31):
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Speaker 3 (07:33):
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questions about players, how they're performing.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Is very early in the process.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I did, like yesterday with Sean Payton, because Troy Franklin
had a very nice day.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
He did he had a very nice day.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, now you might say different because you're a dB,
but I'm just saying like most people can.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Most people thought he had a nice day.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And Coach Payton was asked about Troy Franklin, he was like,
it's early. It's day it's like day one, day three, whatever,
but it's very early in the process.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
He was not about to give him his flowers that early.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, I'm astonished here, Ryan, because usually how this works
is a back and forth. You you ask someone a
question and then you allow them to answer the question.
You don't ask the question, and you answered that at
the same time. So let me go ahead and answer
your question as you were talking about Troy Franklin, because
because I had something great to say. Okay, because you
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know on BCTV other night, you know I was talking
about Troy Franklin and being one of those players that
is going to be called upon to take that next step.
And then Ben accused me of being an agent, a
sports agent for Troy Franklin, and I'm like, if that's
what you want to call me, hey, by all means
called me. But this is a young man that has
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heard that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
By the way, I thought you were being fair. Yes,
go ahead, because.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think this this young man has been uber criticized.
And I can understand why you get paid to play
the wide receive position. You have a built in continuity
with bo Nicks from your days in Oregon. But last season,
the several splash plays, exposive plays that he didn't come through.
One that sticks out the most is the Raiders game
right clear touchdown that would have definitely put him on
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the map. But he made a play yesterday, which I mean,
if it's a regular game, it's an exposive play. So
the talent is there. The one thing I felt as
though it was the confidence, the lack of confidence last
year and being a young player and you coming here
to Denver Broncos expectations are really high, and when you
don't hit that mark right away, and those coaches start
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giving you the business when he hurt yes last season, right,
and it's just like he folded under the pressure. But
I think this year, because it's his second year in
this offense, and I'm sure Bow has sat down with
him and they've had some conversations, I'm expecting him to
take a huge jump. And I know some coaches and
I know what coach Fate was trying to do. He
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didn't want to talk too highly of Troy Franklin. So
now the media is tweeting him, and now there's news
clippers and sometimes players read their clippings and their head
gets so large you can't fit through the door. So
he wants to keep Troy Franklin in the place that
you still haven't made it right. You have more to
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do before we started validating you. And I've seen that
that's those same tactics to use with Bill Parcels. Can
you motivate yourself? Can you continue to do that? And
that's what training camp is about.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Absolutely, and it will I think in the long term
work for him. But you said it there. He folded
a bit early on in his career as of Denver Bronco,
which didn't happen with Cody Latimer when he was here
and when Peyton got to town. He had a hard
time staying on the field because of Peyton. We've seen
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this with players before. So I think that the connection
that he and bo have, that they had in organ
I think that's going to pay dividends. I think it
just didn't pay dividends as soon as I think we
all sort of.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Projected and now, listen, man, that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Sometimes it is going to happen. But I'll just have
fans understand. Let me take you on the helmet and
just break it down from a rookie standpoint. I don't
care where you're drafted. It is very difficult you making
a jump from collegiate football to the pro game. And
not to say that there was an immense amount of
pressure on the collegiate level, but here, I mean there
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are no scholarships, there are no red shirt years. Do
you make it or you don't, and if you don't,
your ads get fired. Right, So that's simply how it works.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It is one of those doggies dog worlds, and once
you get into a tank kind of from a confident standpoint,
it becomes really difficult. To dig yourself out of the hole.
Yesterday I saw a receiver didn't lin end up correctly,
and Sean Payton said, he blew the whistle. Give me
another receiver, right, that plays in the back of your mind.
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So now when they go up and they sit in
the room after the meetings and they're looking going over
their notes, and they said, well, how are the receiver's doing? Well?
This player, I had to pull them out of practice.
So now that bias that coaches have, because they do
have it just like parents. Right now you go into
that next practice. So when you add five reps before,
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guess what, now you got.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Three, and keep in mind, but make the best deal
three you can.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yes, but keep in mind too that you get one practice.
So you once your reps start to be reduced, now
you're fading into obscurity. And now coach is just like you.
Now you're afterthought. So Troy Franklin has to make sure
that every day he stacked bricks. And what I mean
by that he is making place being on the field
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at the right time, no false starts, you're lining up,
you're running your routes at the right depth, you are
not dropping passes. That's how you increased the opportunity for
you to constantly be a part of the comments the conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Nick ferguson Ryan Edwards Here, as we are lying for
Broncos Park Power by common Spirit for today's practice, we're
gonna have all sorts of special guests throughout the morning.
Practice starts around ten o'clock today. So as we're looking
out onto the field, I see a couple of players
to think, one player all the way across the way,
and we're seeing mostly divots being filled in right now,
so it's very quiet, very early. Fans are filing in
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right behind us on the bleachers. So we'll try to
give you as much details as we possibly can throughout
the morning and the practice as it's going along.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Of course, we're on till noon, so we'll be here
to the close of practice.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And we're the only station as I know it right
now broadcasting out here, So why would you listen anywhere else?
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So maybe we'll have a chance to take some calls
in a little bit. We have questions all coming in
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Speaker 1 (13:30):
You ready, let's go all right?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Five six, six nine zero, Good morning, fellas. I know
it's early and they don't have pads on, but how
does the depth of inter your defensive line looks specifically
any olm wasa rique and savean Jones for me.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It is a little hard to tell right now because
no pads on, and it makes it easier for the
defensive line to kind of get up feel and penetrate.
I'm sure come next week we'll be able to have
a better gauge on them because with the pads on
the line. Mgan now use their hands. Now we're talking
about hand in hand comeback, but right now it's all
about what are you doing with your hands and what
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are you doing with that first step and when when
you look at the guys who play on the defensive line,
penetration is going to be a major part. We know
what the Broncos are on our edge's sixty three sacks
historic last season. Now the idea is that can they
double that well, let me let me take that back,
not double it. Can they get back to that same
number or damn they're close to it? So that's what
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you know we're going to be looking for the season.
But it is that foot quickness, that first step and
then do you are you a running chase guy? Right?
That's where we are right now. Can you run chase
down the line and chase receivers and running backs? Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I like that out of the context there, and I
think it is a nuanced discussion because the defensive line
and edge rush is very good. We already know that
there's a lot of talent there and a lot of
returning talent. And I do like a lot of the
young players have been singing the praises of ke Robinson,
for example, really impressed again today yesterday, big do hey.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Coming off the edge. You notice him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
But the thing is, I think you said it perfectly
without the pads on for the offensive line, it is
a bit of an incomplete discussion. So when you say, boy,
the defensive line is really getting a lot of pressure,
it's like, yeah, wait till the offensive line could do
what they do.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And I think that's an important part of this.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
But again, it's not to discount Savion Jones or any
of Waza Rique. I've had some moments of seeing nice
things from Sabon during.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
OTA's mandatory mini camp.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I wouldn't say I noticed him as much yesterday, but
that's not to say he wasn't great. It's kind of
hard to watch everything all the time, all at the
same time. But I'm looking forward to seeing more of
him because I know for the Broncos, they have some
significant decisions to make, especially in the defensive line with
some contracts.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You know, it's funny. I'm glad you mentioned that because
the training camp, with working two fields and so many
position groups, you're trying to watch so much. As a
guy who has a new cat, I think you appreciate this.
It's like trying to herd cat, right, because you're trying
to see as much as you can. But I think
from a day to day basis just kind of focusing
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on a particular group. I want to look at a
particular player because when you watch players go through those drills,
that's when they started to set the foundation of what
they're going to have to do during whatever given practice,
and then watching them take that from the drills right
into the actual practice. But I know the extra eve,
I mean, he's probably frustrated. The Office of Linemen are
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definitely frustrated because you're seeing you know, defensive alignment blow
past them and oh, that's a sack, and as the
fenders everyone wants to get the sack right because you
know you can't get close to the quarterback. So this
is the perfect time. And the pads on the raise
your hand and said that was a sack, and the
office aligneman said the hell with that. No, we had
you block, but I had to let you go. So
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once we get the pads on, there's going to be
a little more pushfull.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
On another one, Nick, what makes DB's fungible? It's a
good word, and what value does that provide? Does it
allow you to disguise defenses?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Spongeable?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Fungible?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh? Fun?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Wasn't interchangeable?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh okay, I thought you said spongeable. I was like, okay,
that's a new term. I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But the thing where, what's your head out this morning?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I'm not texting. I'm just making sure that you read
it to me the right way. So that's it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I'm just saying, man, this is this is a kid's
program here, you know, just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
PG.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
All right, I don't know, I don't know what you
do in your off time.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Man's done of my business just telling you in this case,
and I have to usually remind.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Ben of that, but he usually gets there five minutes earlier.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Okay, I appreciate it took us took us what twenty
four minutes into the show?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yes, So what makes secondary guys fungiboy? It's just the
fact of having that inter communication with one another. And
I was having a conversation with someone yesterday and they
I was going back to my time with the Denver
Broncos and they were like, no, you you were a
strong safety. So imagine someone trying to tell you what
position you play, which was very interesting. But when you
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look at Hufanga and Brendan Jones, I mean, those guys
will have to be interchangeable because if you're not, teams
can actually scheme you based on a position because if
they know one guys that designated strong safety when he's
in the box, now you got three deep. Now we
know you're throwing outside. But with those guys being interchangeable
based song, the ability to cover, the ability to blitz,
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the ability to come down inside the box and tackle,
I mean they can do so many different things and give,
you know, Vance Joseph in a variety of things to
throw out of pros and teams. But once again, it
makes it hard for offenses to identify who's doing what.
And then the biggest thing is you can go David
Copperfield or David blank as though sometimes we would call
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and that that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Man no got no disguise.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, wait, where did you think I was going with that?
Don't say anything. Don't say they'll say I didn't know.
But the odd the idea is having a disappearing act,
showing the offense one thing and then doing some of
the highly different. It's kind of what Peyton Manning did
to a lot of teams, and we were one of
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those teams as far as getting you in a defense
that he was going to be successful. Now, defensively, you
try to do that same thing to the offense. We're
gonna show you two high safeties and then on a
snap someone's gonna drop in, someone's gonna run deep, or
we both are gonna drop down. We're gonna make enforce
that quarterback and those receivers think as they're running their route.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, and I would say, correct me if I'm wrong
on this.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I'd say we're in an era of football where versatility,
especially in the secondary and maybe even into the linebacking
corps to a certain extent, is just as significant as
almost anything else. There was a time when, as you
mentioned it, Hey, this guy is just a true strong safety.
This guy's a true free safety. This guy is a
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true nickel. This guy you know like those as we
went through and I guess Nichols a little bit more
of a recent thing, but get my point, Like, this
guy is an outside corner.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like we just know that.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well, how it feels like as we're going through the
draft process and even to a certain extent, free agency,
you're looking about the fit for the scheme, but you're
also looking, han, can this guy do a lot more
than just the one thing that maybe in the past
we just would have used him for.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
You want the verstility, you're yearning for that, and almost
all defenses now look for it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, you need to have that because I mean the
talent on the office side of the ball around the league,
I mean it's extraordinary. Then you just kind of look
at the quarterbacks that are in the AFC alone, I
mean guys who can run. So having linebackers who are thumpers,
but guys who can actually cover and have versatility. That's important.
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Having guys in the secondary that you can they're smart
enough for you to run zone coverage, but the skill
level is a high level that you can run man
coverage as well. All of those things are highly important.
It's the reason why Sean Payton and George Payton decide, okay,
they're going to go heavy in the draft and free
agency on the defensive side of the ball because they
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want to become more creative. Because losing that game in Buffalo,
they realize that, you know what, we're a little adverse
of having, you know, physicality, and you want to bring
those guys in, but also too, you just want to
have a multitude of different things that you can throw
at opposing offenses. And when we think about the storylines
of training camp, one of those storylines is well, what's
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gonna happen with Jaday Baron? Coach Fatin's asked that question yesterday, Well,
where are you going to play him? Well, he's going
to get a chance to compete or he can't compete inside,
So reading into that, you're going, okay, well, Jakwan McMillan,
here he comes, right. And I was telling a player
yesterday and I won't say his name, but I said, well,
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the idea is just because Jaday barn is now here
that Jaikuan McMillan somehow is going to tuck his tail
between his leg. I'm like, no, he's not. I mean,
that's not the guy that I know, a guy that
I watched at all, because he wants to show what
he could do. And that's the art of competition.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I'm a big fan of it.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And a lot of people I think prematurely read into
the Jada Baron draft pick as an immediate replacement for
either Riley Moss or j Kawan McMillan, and I think
that's also flawed because the Broncos do believe in both
of those players. This is just a premium position, and
a premium position for a player that they thought was
going to go much earlier in the draft.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It was about value at that point, and they thought
they were going to.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Be able to fill the needs that they wanted to
including running back and tied end.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Because they did get a tight end in Caleb Blowner
later on.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
They thought they could get that later and they had
guys ticketed for that. So I think a lot of
Broncos fans when the Broncos picked Jadday Baron, there was
this like, oh my gosh, well, the Broncos totally screwed
this thing up because there's a running back in o
Marion Hampton sitting right there, and oh my gosh, Trevon Henderson.
You could have had him too. And then you sort
of have to, I think, separate what you thought about
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the drafts. And I got to do this for myself sometimes,
what you thought about the draft and what the team
thinks about the draft, what the team specifically thinks about
these players, because we talk about it for months, they
talk about it as well for months. What we have
as far as in front of us and what we
believe and what they have in front of me, it
could be completely different. And I think the Broncos sort
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of proved that to us in this last draft, taking
Jah Day Baron, trading back and getting RJ. Harvey and
then selecting Pat Bryant. There were other wide receivers on
the board that we'd spend a lot more time talking about.
And it's not to say that I don't like Pat
bryan his skill set.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I just thought he might go a little later.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
But again, the Broncos and what we've seen so far,
I can see why they really liked him.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I want to finish that topic.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
On the other side though, because Pat Bryant also had
a very nice day. I think the Jade Baron thing
is fun to explore with you as a dB. I
think that's gonna be fascinating over the course of training camp.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
To see how he develops and how he sort of
steps up.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
As we are live here for Broncos Park Power by
Common Spirits, Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson, We'll be right back
here on Koa.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Fergus and then we.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Were thrilled to be joined on set by a very
good friend of ours, super Bowl champion, the one and
only Ryan Harris. What's up?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
What's up? Bryan?
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I thought I'd see you at the Ryan Rockies game,
but did not see you.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I know, listen, man, you should give me a hard
time about that. I I it was. You know, it's
a Friday. I was tired driving downtown.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
The world record of Ryan's at Course field.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
No, I know, it's terrible. No this, man, I give
me all, give it all.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
It sounds like you're hurting yourself pretty good for so
I'm I'm let it be. I'm gonna let it be.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I heard from other Ryans. Trust me. The whole, the whole,
the whole cabal, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Sports, and your name is Ryan. Okay, we're digressing here.
See that's what happens when Nick Ferguson's around, You know
what I mean. He just brings out the competition and everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Man, don't pull me into this, right, don't.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
He brings out a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yes, yeah, he brings out the best in you, brings
out the best.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
That's not That's not what Ryan Edwards was trying to.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
All you gotta say is, man, I can't believe he
left other seven hundred Ryans behind seven hundred Ryans.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
At the Rockies game. It was beautiful.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Oh yeah, like that's gonna be fun. I'm gonna stay home.
That's him. That's okay, okay, Yeah, all work, no play, Yes, man,
I listen.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I don't have an excuse.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Regretting this interview.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Instantly.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm thrilled her here. I thrilled here. When I saw
you driving in, I told Temper, I was like, man.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
If we can this guy Ryan over here. But then
I heard you were gonna be doing some autograph signing
and stuff. So this is a busy man, busy man.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Hey for the people, Hey for the people. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Nick said he's seeing how easy these guys have it,
and he wants to get out there and run a
few reps.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Are you feeling that way?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Because I've never met a player that ever wants to
get back out. It's like breaking back into Alcatraz. None
wants to do that.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Well, one, they're in their pajamas right now, thank you.
So so yeah, I was walking across the field. I
felt that little h's in the gidea like that foot
needs to get down quick. Yeah, let me go, let
me get and you know what, Ryan, if they'd let
me play tight end, I would still be playing today.
I was arguably the greatest tight end you never seen,
you know. And so yeah, let me go out there
and run a couple stick routes, show them how to
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do it.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But this is what I'm trying to tell him.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
These guys are out there with the foot seas are
foot seas pajamas and you know what, and you're gonna
see the My favorite part, and I loved this even
as a veteran, because I was there myself about day
three of Pad's The look on the rookies' faces.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Is like oh god, yes, oh my God, like I've
got to do this four more days before I get
a brain. And you, I mean, you'll see some real,
real decisions being made, both in the locker room before
practice and on the field.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
See when I tried to explain that to Ryan Edwards,
because I have to make sure the audience knows what's
Ryan I'm talking correct, he didn't really get it. It
just seems as though I was being that old man,
get off my lawn. But this practice is as easy
as hell.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Well. And the thing is, as veterans, what you're looking
for in these practices is really to acclimate. Right, we're
talking about communitytion. Hey for we got this, we got that.
I mean you're trying, you're trying to over communicate. You're
trying to make sure your technique is so good because
when those pads get on and you got to get
somewhere before somebody else, that technique's the first thing to go.
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So veterans are putting in the work. This is as
important to veterans as padded practices because we know what's
coming and padded practices, but can you get your footwork,
your communication down before things get real.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Here's the other thing too, I mean, why those first
couple of days are important because you haven't had this
type of explosive movement in a while, so you want
to make sure you work through that soreness. Get it
out early, because once you get to pads, this is
where you know guys either make the team or they
don't make the team. So for me, once the pads
come on, I'm trying to run through somebody's face.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Andy Reid, Gary Kobiak, Mike Tomlin, they would all say
at the first night of camp, this is the best
you're gonna feel the rest of the way. And that's true,
so this is an important time. But rookies get fool
thinking that they're making plays with our mouthguards in and
they come to find out real quick. No doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
We actually giving some luck to the offensive line a
little bit ago because oftentimes people like the oohz and
the odds the defensive line getting all that pressure without
the pads on, and we gave some nuance to the conversation, Oh,
I want you to let you know. We said, hey, listen,
the offensive line can't really do what they do until
the pads come on.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Either.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
No, here's a question, and it can be indicative.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Of a problem.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Were there bull rushes without pads on yesterday? Yes or no.
That's a fight if you bull rush. And so now
I'm disappointed in the offensive line. I'm glad you giving them.
Let me tell you what when I was here when
every offensive if you bull without pads on, I am
snatching you to the ground. I'm putting my knee on
your neck and I'm not taking it off until three
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of your defensive teammates come over and take me off
of you, because that's what we're doing here. Yeah, I
want to work on your technique. You want to play games.
We could play all day. I'm telling you Tom Naylan
wouldn't tolerate it. Mike, you know, Matt Lepsis wouldn't tolerate it.
And Ferg even knows because he knows. It's like jamming
a receiver without pads on. You can do it, but
you're cheating.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well and technically, no, there's a little no, no, no no.
The nuance is a little different because there we go.
We're talking about one on ones and you impressed coverage.
You have to work on hand placement. So where do
you want me to place my hands? I can place
them in your chest, even though you have pads on,
or I can put my hands in your face.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
And here here's the response. Here's the response right on
the teacher, how to speak to a defender. Do it
in a game now, right, Oh, you're so good with
your hand placement here, huh, do it in a game.
And that's what you see all the corners with with
bent elbows trying to press man because they were doing
it with pads on in the pajamas smelling themselves. But
I'm not joking, joking. If there's a bull rush without
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pads on, that's a fight. That's a warning. Once at
the beginning of camp.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You can't, you know, condemn a defensive lineman for trying
to work on getoffs because you're saying bull rush right
getting your kick slide, I got I gotta do my job.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
A bull us is when someone's putting two hands through
your chest and pushing, pushing with their feet. You know
what happens with pads on is one, my sternum doesn't hurt. Okay,
don't touch my sternum. Man, that's a very private area.
And number two, okay, number.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Two private area.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You never you never get the get offs in the game. Anyways,
there are three defensive ends that I played that had you.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Know why, see this is the joy of having an
offensive lineman here on the show, and why pads Having
pads on is kind of the great equalizing you know what,
because guess what they can grab when they stand too
tall and they don't sit down and drop their anchor right.
Because if you're getting bull rushed here, I mean, you're
not dropping your anchor right, and you're standing too tall.
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So if that happens with pads on, guess what you
can grab now? And as long as you keep your
feet in, keep your hands in and tight, you're good.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Can we click that sound of him saying you can grab?
Because I know what he's saying all the other time, lineman,
but me this, you know number one von Miller harder
to block without shoulder pads on, or with shoulder pads on.
Doing the spin move with boat with boat, incredibly harder
without Okay, it's just not real. And Ryan, I'm gonna
call you Big Ryan. We're gonna call you Big Ryan
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all the big work you've gone around here. Wait wait,
wait no, he's Big Ryan. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
That's right, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
But this is what lunch sounds like during training camp
with veterans right here, because we've already got through the practice,
you know were we got through without any strains. So
now we're coming to negotiate, you know, who's better over lunch.
This is what lunch sounds like during training camp. By
the way, He's not.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
The only dB I've talked to former player out here
that has been just whining, whining about offensive holding.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, thank you see why
I wanted to go to the clip. Thank you, see,
big Ryan, that's why you're big Ryan.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I got your back whining about holding. That's all you people. Okay,
let me inform you know something, defenders. Let me be clear,
most of much training camp fights. Guess what it was
with with with what group them?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Lineman? Why because they tackling the receiver. Tackling the receiver.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's not me.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I'm not going to cornerback on hitting the quarterback on
a safety blitz. I hasn't gotten there in three years
during the season.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Loul Ryan, he's not being honest. Come on, man, see
that there was a little fallacy in what he just told.
So you cannot hit the quarterback ever, ever, ever, ever,
Because that they will all score escort you out of
the building if you were to do that. So that's
something that never happened. Well, offensive lineman right, And once
again I'm going to go back to my time here
with Alex Gibbs, who used to scream at everyone that
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he didn't coach right.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
He wanted us.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
He wanted his offensive lineman to be tough and physical,
and some guys it translated to, oh, let's hold the guy, right,
Tom Nalan love the guy like a play cutsing what
every time on the blitz he grabs here in the
v of my jersey, thank youse, casey point where they
where they didn't where they never call holding.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
He knows that it is holding because within the breastplate
you can do whatever you want. You can you can
make chicken nuggets on somebody's chest if you need to.
You know, if it's inside that breastplate, there's no holding.
That's that's the law of football.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And then you know what happens. Hands to the face.
My hand paunches someone in the face.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Uh huh No, well, hands to the face, because when
they come running in like they're gonna hit you, rye,
then they duck real quick.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Get that oh you hit me in the face.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
They tried, and Raw.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Was his teammate.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
But see what you and you and I never got
into an entanglement. We did not know.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
We did not never know, we did not I was
always somebody and Mike Tomlin used to say it all
the time, Hey, you want to be a stick in
the mud, I'll join you, right, And so I was
always I was professional and if we wanted to go there, Hey, man,
my gutters deep homey. I'm from Saint Paul, Minnesota, Railroad
in a rivertown. Okay, we know, we know how to work.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I gotta say you guys were super nice to each
other before we keep up year. I'm gonna take a
little bit of credit for the funks with this back
and forth, but I hope after the segment we're still
going to be cool. Of course, we gotta have the
money lead joining us in just a couple of seconds.
I just want to ask you one last thing, and
we appreciate you swinging fowers. Always good to see you
success for the season. In your opinion, what is that?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What does that?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Hingeohn?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
You have to win one playoff game, and if you do,
you really have a chance to go deep. Now you
win the AFC West and the playoff game, that's something.
But get in your mind right now, you have to
see the Chiefs, excuse me, beat the Chiefs three times
this year to get to the super Bowl. And look
out for Evan Ingram. This is good. Having it tight
end for the first time in five years will have
a material impact on this offense.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
More red zone touchdowns than Courtland sugget. Yes, that's what
I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yes, look at you guys coming on the same page,
on the same page.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's how.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's how you win, right there.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Twins activate Ryan Harris, you are a legend, man.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Ryan.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I'm sorry I let you down on the Ryans.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
It's not just me, it's seven hundred other Ryans that
made it out of their time, parents, dads. We even
had people who are changing their name to Ryan in
two weeks bringing the paperwork, but.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Not you hold it up, not you come, I Ne're
gonna leave that. Do appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Then the best, one of my favorite people of all time,
Ryan Harris. And of course they just walk out music.
They crank up the music as soon as he's done.
I love that, man. Hey, appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
It's good to.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
See you drive safe out there. We'll have them on
Leech president of the Denver Broncos here in just.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
A matter of moments.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Rick Lewis is gonna be joining us after ten thirty,
so we got also some really great guests coming up.
Just a reminder, by the way, we're posting up our socials.
Shout out to Anthony Rod who's already posting out photos
from practice as the players are filing in out here
and getting warmed up, so make sure you follow on
all social channels at KIAWA, Colorado. After practice, I'm gonna
have an interview with Nick Benito, so you're gonna want
to make sure you check that out as well, and
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we'll have the whole interview and including all the podcasts
on demand at Kwaclorado dot com. We're on the iHeartRadio
app whenever you want to check them out.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
That was fun, That was fine.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I think we ended on a good no, no, don't
look at me sideway listen.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
We I know what you were trying to do. That
Ryan was thing that you always do, Big Ryan. Yeah,
Big Ryan.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I thought you helped your own though.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You know, al was gonna hold my own because I
know how this game works. I mean, Ryan was trying
to fill the air with a bunch of hot garbage
talking about that. That's little Ryan. That's the truth based
on offensive and defensive philosophies and things that happened. I'm
here to tell the truth, right, that's what I'm here
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to tell the truth to the people, exactly what goes down.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, the truth according to a dB No.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
No no, no, no no. I see, I lived in
those trenches. I knew. I know what those offensive linemen
are capable of doing on an everyday basis. He said
to himself. When I was talking about Tom Nayland grabbing me,
he was like, like holding, but it's not holding in
that particular area. So they were haunt how to do that.
So hey, there's a lot to get into, a lot
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more to see, and I can't wait till the pads
come on because we get a chance to see the separation.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
We definitely do all right, we are right, we're gonna
take He gets the co players, I think is Sabion Jones.
A couple of players firing up the crowd. That's pretty
cool stuff right there. If we're live here for Broncos
Park Power by Common Spirit, Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson, We're
gonna take a very quick break. Demani Leech is going
to join us and think, yeah, you're speaking with a
lot of media right now. He's gonna sit down with
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us because we're out here live broadcasting like nobody else
right here on KAA