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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're gonna head out to the Kawi Commas Spirit Health
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how line to bring on? Charles Robinson a fantastic writer
from Yahoo at Charles Robinson on Twitter. Charles, thank you
so much for the time.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I mean, well, jents, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We're doing We're doing good. Thanks, As as Ryan said,
appreciate you coming on. So I guess the question I
would have early is that article with Sean, the fact
that he talked about liking the team and and thinking
maybe for the I think six or seven time in
his career, that this could be a super Bowl team.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
How how did that?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
What was the line of questioning it got him to
that point that he was comfortable enough to tell you
what he did.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So, you know, we're sitting there and I was sitting
with him in the cafeteria and I was just telling
I kind of related to him, like, hey, this has
sort of been this experience here with the Broncos. Every
off season he's kind of graduated to a different mood.
Like the first off season he come through, I think
it was coming off the the Jarrett Belle stuff where
he talked about Nathaniel Hackett and he you know it was.
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It was kind of a rough time. I think he
was not in the greatest of the moods, and you know,
knew that there was a lot to dig out of,
you know, I think he knew the Russell Wilson thing
wasn't gonna work already at that time, and it was
only a matter of time before they, you know, had
to make a change. And yeah, I mean it was.
It was just a really rough visit. And then last
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summer I come through and and he had changed, Like
you could tell he was there was a little more
light in his step than he was. There was some optimism,
and I could tell it was because he had the
quarterback you wanted, you know. It was we spent a
lot of time when I came through last summer just
talking about the quarterback and him insisting like, hey, this
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is the guy. You know, like he and Jade and
Daniels were the two guys that we really had graded
one two at the quarterback spot. And you could just
tell he felt like they were turning in the right
direction and there was still work to do, but I
think he was happy with, you know, the young pieces
they'd gotten in the draft, and there was some optimism there.
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I remember him telling me that, you know, Courtland Sutton
wasn't I show up. Was like, you're gonna like Courtland's
getting traded right, Like He's like, he's this guy gonna
play for you this season. He swore up and down
that Courtland still had a lot of good football in him.
And you know, and then I come through this this
off season. I said to him, Look, this is very different.
I said, uh, you you know, last year I'm talking
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to you and I think the over under was five
and a half wins in Vegas, which really pissed him off.
And uh, I said, Now I come through and there's
a lot of expectations, you know here for you guys,
there's there's a lot of optimism. And you know, I
just said to him, I'm like, you know, you've talked
with me in the past, like he does a lot
of people about you know, don't don't eat the cheese
and the hype and all that stuff. And I just
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asked him, I said, you lean into this. I'm like,
how are you handling this right now? And you know
that's when he just straight upset. I. You know, I
think this is a super bow team and you know,
and then rattled off a lot of the different reasons
why he had that confidence, and you could just see,
I mean, because I'm not there every day. It's so
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stark to me when you maybe only get a window
into a guy, you know, one time a year where
you really get a chance to sit down with him
for for a period of time. And you know, the
contrast there was was pretty significant over those you know,
three visits, and I didn't. I was kind of like, okay,
you know, all right, you got you're definitely confident. And
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I did say wow at one point, we said, you
told me the thing about the first meeting, you know,
I told him the super Bowl and and uh, you
know when he said he thought Bonix, you know, could
be was going to be a top five quarterback in
the next like a couple of years, two years, And
even to me, I was kind of like, okay, you
know this is this is some optimism. And it was
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funny because the story was supposed to run on Friday,
but Micah Parsons requested the trade and so I got
pulled into, you know, some coverage on that. So we
decided to hold the story a couple of days, and
then when it went up. I was like, oh, clearly
we should have. We probably should have put on Friday
because I saw the you know, the reaction to it,
and there's no doubt in my mind. You know, I've
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I've covered a lot of different versions of Sean Payton,
you know, going back to the New Orleans days, and
I think he's in a really, really good place. And
maybe one thing that I wasn't able to expound on
as much was just the relationship he's got with the
general manager, George Peyton, because I know, when you know,
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Seawan first came in, it was like, all right, well
we'll see, like is this gonna work? And ownership really
wanted it to work, and sometimes that that can come together,
sometimes it can't. And I really do believe, you know,
it has come together between those two guys, and just
talking to peop on the building what the process of
scouting is like. Once Sean sits down at the table
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in February and they really start to dig in, it
sounds like, you know, they really work well together, and
they're not. I don't think they're guys that are necessarily alike,
I think, but I think it works because it's two
guys that want to work for each other to get
it right to.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
How much of you this do you think is Sean
being literal? And how much of do you think is
Sean with sort of the hyperbole. I'm motivating my team.
I'm setting the expectation bar high, standard bar high. How
much of this is is literal and how much of
it is not?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, I think it would be more hyperbole if
I didn't know how good that defense is and and
well the potential for how good that defense can be.
You know, I went through San Francisco and I can
tell you right now now we'll see if green Law's healthy.
But to lose Drake Greenlaw, to louse a funga, I
mean the Niners are not happy about that, Like it's
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the staff there is there kind of gritting their teeth
right now, you know, having sustained those losses, and you know,
I think they know they're going to see those guys
go out and play really, really well for the Broncos.
And I think that the fact that Sean sees that defense,
particularly you know, a secondary that could be one of
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the best in the league. Again, if everybody's healthy, it's
going to have a chance to carry games. And I
also think he you know Kansas City, the road always
goes through Kansas City. Well, they split games with Kansas City,
played Kansas City tough and losses, And you know, I
think feeling like he has the quarterback that he wants,
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I think he expects Nicks to take another big stride forward,
which you know he should. It's his first true offseason
as a professional football player without having to do the
banquet circuit and all the draft stuff. I think his
confidence is real. Now, do I think? Do I think
there's still other pieces and parts that he wonders about. Sure,
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you know, I think the wide receivers he's got to see,
you know what kind of steps up beyond Courtland Sutton
and solidifies. I think the rookie class, you know, Bryant,
I think he really wants to see what he can
bring to the table.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I think I think he feels like you finally got
the running back that he's been looking for. I think
Evan Ingram is a huge deal for him because the
first summer I came through, he was talking about needing
to find that player and it just hadn't happened. And
I do think Ingram can be that type of player.
I don't know how much longer Evan Ingram can be,
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you know, a top shelf guy, but I think Peyton
can get you know, some more out of them. So
at the very least the next couple of seasons, I
think Ingram can can really be that joker player that
Sean covets so much. So I do I do do
I think there's an element of it that he is
putting some win in their sales. Sure, But do I
think he believes a lot of what he said to me? Yeah?
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I do. I think he's I think he has a
level of confidence in this team that if things come
together the way that that he feels like the talent
is capable of.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Uh, They're they're going.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
To make some noise. Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports joining
us here last one for me. Really appreciate the time,
So I guess I want to spend it to you
and your read on it. We hear what Sean is
wanting out there. He certainly gave you those quotes. They've
gotten a lot of run and I can see where
you pieced it all together. What he believes. You've been
around the game for a long time. What do you
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believe about the Broncos, well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know, I want to And I asked them about this.
I said, Okay, I see, I know you have confidence Nicks,
but you know, do you worry about a rollback in
year two? Do you worry about you know you? I
called it the sophomore slump with some guys I live
in Houston. I kind of I put it through the CJ.
Stroud kind of prison. I said, look, everybody thought CJ.
Stroud was a dark horse MVP candidate going into year two,
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and then the line implodes, and you know, the offensive
coordinators suddenly can't figure out how to you know, adjust
to injuries, and and you see c J. Stroud go
from you know, wow, this guy is going to be
a top five quarterback in the league quickly to oh man,
we're firing our offensive coordinator, We're retooling the entire line,
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and things take a hard left. And he understood that
when I when I kind of put it to him
and and I think he yields to Yeah, can things
go wrong, certainly? Can there be injuries that that can
undercut Bonix the progress of Bonix? Definitely? But I think
he also believes that you know, people haven't seen maybe
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some other things that Nix can do. I wouldn't be
surprised it was. It was interesting to me kind of
listening to him talk about, you know, Nick's using his
legs a little bit more and that didn't make it
into the story, but like you kind of feel like, oh, okay,
there's gonna be some design here where they're going to
use his legs, maybe even a little bit more than
they did last year to create you know, some k
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since some mismatches with defense, with the defense as they
face and it bothers him. I think when people kind
of act like Nix is just a check down merchant,
he's not that, And you know, I think he wants
to continue to push that that. You know, when you
remove these plays and you know, you look at what
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happens when he goes down the field with the ball.
He's he's not that he has arm strength and he's
not always looking for you know, the DNK, the dink
and dunk type stuff. So I tend to believe in
really good coaches who have done it won a lot
of games. When I go through, you know, and Kyle
Shanahan's amped up like he's got a really good team,
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or Andy Reid or you know, Sean McVay. It reminds
me a little bit of a McVeigh a couple of
years ago, when you know, they had lost, they had
gone through a really big transition in the offseason, they
had they plugged in a bunch of young players. This
might have been two years ago, and I go out
to practice. I'm like, oh my god, you got a
ton of young guys out there. But McVeigh was like, yeah,
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we do. And we can fall on our face, but
I'm I have a lot of confidence that you're going
to see an energy brought by all these young guys
coming in, and uh, you know, we're not going to
be a team that just you know, goes six and
eleven this season. And they weren't. They were very good,
very competitive team. And I believe, you know, coaches, So
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I think I can I can trust to have a
pretty good handle on their teams. And I think Sean
usually does.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Great reporting is always Charles really appreciate the time this afternoon, man, Thank.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You absolutely, thanks. Let me on.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I appreciate it. Charles Charles Robinson from Yahoo. Really good stuff. Yeah,
that's good.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I mean, I think I think the last thing he
said is so accurate. He's going to believe in coaches
that have a track record of success. And when he
goes in and sits and talks to him, they're What
I like about it is they have a comfort level
with him that they're going to tell him.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
They're going to tell him the truth.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
They're going to tell him stuff that that normally they
might not say to other members of the media, with
like Sean McVay saying, yeah, we're young. We may fall
on her face, but I'm telling you, you know, I
like this team. That's sort of what I took in
terms of what Sean Peyton said to Charles in their
sitting down.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
He he and it's no surprise he likes this team.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now they got to go out and play, and the
season is long, there's plenty of things that can happen,
but he likes the makeup of the team, the roster.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's certainly in his image.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Now, I mean this, this Broncos team is now he
in Sean Payton's image. Specifically, on the offensive, the wide
receiver room is built the way he built wide receiver rooms.
The running back platoon is built similar to the way
he you know, he built previous running black patoons say
they've kind of got a tight end that can create
spacing problems, you know with ingram So and noticed I
didn't use.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The word heavy slot there. Run. I think you just did. Yeah, well,
I had to sneak it in somehow. I uh, you know,
you know, if.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
They've got a well paid offensive, there's offenses built in
Sean Payton's image.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yep, it would have been fascinating. I guess Convert if
he didn't like the team, and I don't know what
he would say. And at this point, what did you
do all off season if you didn't like the team,
you know, like just for a time. I don't think
I don't think you.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I don't think you say to Charles, I just don't
like this team, right, we're building something here. But I
also I also think, yeah, I think you would have
couched all of the expectations. I don't think you would
have wanted all the spotlight. I don't think you'd have said, hey,
I think this is the seventh time that I've had
a team in training camp that I believe has the
ability to get to the super Bowl. You'd have said
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none of that and said, hey, you know, what. It's
Bo's second year. We expect to take the next step
in the process, and.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I think we're we're headed in the right direction. That's
a good point. I don't know if you saw. It
was like a week or so ago when the Titans
front office and coach were asked about, you know, hey,
do you guys think you can win a Super Bowl
this year? And they were honest, they were absolutely honess,
we don't have this sound. I'll maybe I'll try and
grab that, but they just like, well, we're building.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So there was like a second and a half pause
to where both of them are thinking, all right, how
do we answer that one?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
You know, the coach kind of looked at the GM,
the GM kind of looked at the coach, and neither
one of them really wanted to comment on it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think it was the GM that ultimately did well,
it's a process and building building something here, you know,
the rookie quarterback the other thing that. I mean, there's
some really good stuff there from Charles and the article
is really fun, especially if you're a Broncos fan that's
excited about the season. But the one thing he mentioned
there that he said he wanted to be able to
get in. There was a working relationship between the Peyton's
with George and Sean, and boy, we you know, we
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were around around when Sean got hired. I remember when
we were talking about it about well, maybe he's gonna
want to work with a different GM. Maybe that that relationship.
Even if the ownership likes George, maybe he's going to
say I want somebody else in that seat. But the
fact that we're you know, fast forward a few years.
We were just talking about Pat Bryan in the last hour.
Here he is saying from everything I understand that relationship.
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To me, it's a good one.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I think George Payton and I've always thought he was
a smart football guy, but I think he has less
of an ego than most anybody that I've ever encountered
that has the GM title of an NFL team. Lots
of gms want to they want to take credit, they
want to make sure you know that was George just
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doesn't strike me as that guy at all, which I
think has gone a long way in his ability to
work with a guy like Sean Payton.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I would absolutely back that up to wait, I would
tell a story. Uh, George Payton had just completed the
trade for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
What did he do?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
He had the perfect opportunity to leak it to a
couple of bonehead you know, koa guys comes down, grabs
a beer with me and I doesn't talk about it
at all, doesn't say a word about it at all.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Just comes down, has an aw shucks beer with us
at the time. You know, could have could have gone
back to you know, could have gone.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Some high roller place like some of the gms, could
have gone anyway, come down to the velocity there in
Indianapolis the hotel bar, had a beer with me and
Ryan didn't say a word about it. Unbelievable poker face. Yeah,
I would never play that guy in poker ever. I
have not on my life. And I wasn't a hint
that it was done.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And I was trying to fish something out of him
because I was talking about Kayon Thibodeau and how Kevon
had made some comments in the media's crown about wanting
to be the next Von Miller and how he wants
he would love to come play for the Broncos because
he wants to continue that legacy. And so I was
just like, ah Man, some great stuff from you know
Thibodeau today and you know, talking about von Miller and
he's like, huh, yeah, that great. We're looking at all
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of them, you know, nobody. He didn't have a drive
pick anymore, didn't have a first round anymore. And he's
just sitting there just having it but just all shucks
beer with with you know.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Maybe he's just sitting there at the corner of the bar,
you know. And yeah, but he's always been that guy,
kind of humble, kind of you know, putting very much,
but he's good at what he does. I think the
thing for me is he had already sold ownership on him,
you know, but Sean Payton was going to get his
choice if this was the guy or not.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But do you want to see you want to see
if he can make it work. And I think he
sold Sean Payton on the you know, on his.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Work ethic ofaluations and need for no credit in any
of it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, and there's I imagine and that Sean would say
this outwardly, but I imagine for ownership as well as for Sean.
You do like a little bit of balance, you know, right,
I mean the process. You don't want somebody just to
agree with everything you're saying just just to agree, and
he because because Sean has told the story for a
long time about Mickey Loomis and how they were sort
of paired together because Mickey was already there in New Orleans.
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And I think Sean had the same kind of thing, like, oh, well,
we'll see if this works out. And they're like became
best friends. And I think that he saw this as
an opportunity. Okay, well we'll see how this works. And
then now they're in a position. I don't know if
they're best friends. I won't go that far, but I
will say that they've found an EBB and flow to
each other. And you even notice when they're talking about
the draft, there's this give and take nature of Okay, you, hey,
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the coach wants this, We're gonna do everything we can
to get that thing. But also there's there's some guidelines
that we're trying to also accomplish.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, I think that George, aside from being and I've
said this before before Sean got here too, he's in
astute football guy. I mean, he's the football you can
sit and talk to George and just his evaluation. He
understands talent, he knows what he's looking at. And I
think with a coach like Sean Payton, there are times
where you want to be the sounding board for him.
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There are times where you want to balance really how
he views a certain situation, and there are times where
I think you're going to be deferential. And I think
George understands the difference between those three things and how
to kind of walk each line. And I think he's
been really good at his job really since he got here.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Mike, be glad you joins us. Next Saturday nights, the
first preseason game, we head out to the Koi Commas
bear Hell Hotline and bring on your starting right tackle
for the Denver Broncos. Mike mcglinche, Mike, you're on with
Benjamin Albright right everts How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I'm doing well, guys. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We're doing fantastic, very excited for the start of the season.
How his training camp been for you so far?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
That's been great. You know, It's been a great battle
between us and the defense. I think we're talented on
both sides and it's been a lot of great work
getting ready to go and get our first test of
playing against a new team. This week and joint practice
and then the preseason game. It's gonna be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Obviously, there's something to shake it off the doldrums of
camp with you know, get getting some preseason action and
the joint practice stuff. Is there anything extra with you know,
so many of you guys having been former forty nine ers,
any extra juice to any of that?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, No, I've been going for three years now. I mean,
maybe Huff and Drake and say something different, but no,
I have nothing but love for those guys back there
that you know, I was where I was able to chance,
you know, start my dream of playing my career in
the NFL, and a lot of people still in that
building that I care for deeply. But it's uh, you know,
it's gonna be awesome. There's a lot of good players
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over there, and it's gonna be a good test for
us and to see where our game's at and how
we need to get better.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Where you feel like the offense is at right now
in this point in training camp and as far as
you guys get getting ready for the season, we're in.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
A great spot. You know. Obviously we're training camps, training
camp and you're gonna make the stakes. Things are going
to be different to you the first time you put
things in the offense. They're gonna be rusty or not
quite where we need them to be. But that's why
we practiced. Right It's we got three or four weeks
to go before you know, we start doing real game
prep and and right now it's about sharpening the skills
that we need and owning the concepts of the play calls.
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And I think we've done a great job with that
so far. So you just got to keep going one
foot in front of the other and one day at
a time, and we'll be uh right where we want
to be in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
You know, the national narrative has changed on the Denver
Broncos from where it was last year.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You had a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Talking about five and a half win seasons at the
you know, at the books. You know that the coverage
wasn't the same as it is this year. It seems
everybody expects this team to uh to take.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That next step. I mean, you got you know, the
great line.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You've added players in the running back room, you re
signed Courtland in the receiving room, and bow get the
second year. What what are the personal expectations for this
offense this season.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Well, I personally, I think we can be as good
we allow ourselves to be. I think we're in control
of what we wanted to do, things that I think
we're you know, the good thing is is we're so
we're in a great spot. We're talented, and I think
as long as we are on our stuff, we believe
we can be at the top of the NFL. And
that's what we're working for. And you know, I think
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we've seen a lot of progress going towards that goal.
But we got you know, it's not about being great
the best in week one. It's about growing each game,
growing each week, and being as good as we can
be when Week eighteen and then the playoffs starts.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Rum's right tackle Mike mcglinche joining us here on k Sports.
You guys made the playoffs last year. Unfortunately it didn't
end probably the way almost anybody wanted to, because you'd
like to win a Super Bowl every year ostensibly. So
how does that game specifically fuel this team in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think it was, you know a little bit of
a wake up call in the way that, yeah, we
had a great run. It was great to get to
the playoffs, but it was a wake up call in
the fact that we have a lot of work to
do to be able to be at the top of
the AFC and at the top of the NFL. We
don't want to just get in the door at the
playoffs anymore. We want to be the ones breaking it
down and h and making a run. And so, like
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I said, the only way you can do that is
like handling your business each and every day and each
and every game. And and that's the mindset the coach
preaches every day and we're doing a great job with that.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know if you saw the quote we were
just talking to Charles Robinson with Yahoo. Your coach Sean
Payton said that you're one of seven teams that he
believes they could win a Super Bowl. When your coach
goes out there and puts something like that in print,
what does that mean to you?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Well, I think it's just something that we all believe.
I don't think that there's any doubt in our building
that we have the ability to compete at the highest
level of this league. And you know, we've been building
something slowly for the last couple of years, and I
think we're ready to go. And you know, I think
if you're not trying to obtain goals like that, if
you don't believe that you're in that conversation, then I
don't know why you. You know, you strap up and play,
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and that's that's what we're going to try and do,
is to throw and attack it and make sure that
we're one of the last ones standing.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Last one I have for you, Mike, really appreciate the
time so you you chose to come to the Broncos
and free agency when Sean got here a few years ago,
you were, of course coming to a team that had
just won five games and reset the coaching staff, and
we're resetting the culture. I mean, thinking back to that
moment when Sean sold you on the dream the vision
of this team. How closely in line is it now, I'd.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Say it's right on, you know. I it was an
interesting process going through all that with free agency, and
it's not something that I really loved doing. But when
you have the opportunity to have a lot of conversations
with a coach like Sean Payton and and the ownership
group that we have here, you kind of could see
what was going to be, what what would happen eventually,
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and I chose to put my career in a guy
that you know, has proven that he can do it
and he and he's done well over sustained periods of time.
And I knew there was I knew that this was
going to happen. I wasn't sure when, but I'm happy
that it's happening a little bit sooner than we thought.
And you know, I'm very, very fortunate to be a Bronco.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Mike. We really appreciate the time man. Best of luck,
not only this weekend whatever playing time you guys ultimately have,
but also this season. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Thank you guys. Appreciate it all, right, Mike.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
McGlinchey, that's stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I think his assessment there where the offense is coming
along is about right. It says not that you can
say in this very moment, what twelve days in training camp,
that you were everything that you want to be, But
then simultaneously you have to appreciate the process and the
fact that they all were getting better. I mean, the
interceptions aside, there were things, but even today's practice R J.
Harvey phenomenal, The blocking up front and this is a
(24:42):
pad's day. And hey, we were out there on some
of those pads days where the defensive line was overwhelming
the offensive line, and I don't think that happened today.
I think he acknowledged that too.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I think he kind of said, you know, we're still
trying to put some things together, try to figure out
the timing tempo on things trying to fit, you know.
I mean he acknowledged where they're at that the off
the defense is had the better of the offense much
of training camp. That's kind of where you're at with this,
and you know, I think he I think hit the
nail on the head that you just keep plugging away
and the things start to fall into place and you
get better.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
As you go. He really did have to take a
bit of a leap of faith because I remember you
were reporting that was that the Bears that were interested
in Mike McGlinchey several teams and he even said He's like,
I didn't love the free agent process necessarily, but Sean,
I mean, this was one of his first signings, right.
It was. It was him has been powers like day one.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
There was a centerpiece of what he was trying to
do here implementing you know, Sean Payton's things.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So and he believed there were some people that didn't believe.
That's what I'm saying. Mike McGlinchey. You know, I think interesting.
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Obviously Mike's O line coach from college went up there
to Chicago, and so there was there were ties there,
and you know, he could have gone to the Bears,
and who knows who the tackle would have been right
tackle been.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You know, I'd been a problem for the Broncos for
a long time.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
And whatever you think of Mike mcglinchey's certainly been a
serviceable starter at right tackle beenimum Oh, no doubt, I'm underselling,
but you yeah, no, he's certainly been. You know, certainly
the days that the menlik Watson are gone. Donald, Oh
my god. Yeah, we've we've we've we've seen n Jones,
John James, sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
John James. Yeah, and that was the post. I mean,
that was when they spit up, and they really spin up.
They painted more than any of the right tackle in history.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, I'm skipping over the Evan Mathis Jared Veldeer you know,
years or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But yeah, yep, thank you for skipping over that. No,
he's been he's been great, and it's it's an offensive
line that.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's one of the high I mean all the analytics
people say it's one of the best.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Lines in football.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yes, So whatever, you wherever you come down on that,
and you look around, I mean, there's certainly talent there.
You've got Mike, You've got Quinn, You've got Garrett Bowles,
you know, and Ben.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Powers and Luke Wattenberg. The only thing I I wish
I would ask him more and more about is the
fact that they are going to a little more wide zone
because I do think that that fits him really well.
It probably does.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You know, him and Garrett both hit them both a
little bit a little bit better because they are athletic tackles.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Uh, They're a little bit leaner.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Than some of the the you know, the big boy
tackles you see out there at times.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
All Right, we'll get that interview up at Kwacolorado dot
com or on the completely free and totally awesome my
Heart radio app which is completely free, as I mentioned,
and you can set kaway as a preset, say KWA
Sports as a preset that we never missed an episode
of the show, great stuff from Mike McGlinchey, Charles Robinson
earlier from Yahoo Sports. It's been a fun show so far,
(27:25):
including Dave Logan describing the first and only time he
did marijuana. That was that was sensational. Man coming soon.
I can't I can't recommend the podcast enough if you
missed Dave describing his live the Dave Logan story, all right,
(27:49):
we got rockies come out of here at the top
of the our boy. Was a rough night last night
for our Rockies. It was one of those like they're
kind of keeping it close, keep it close. I'm like,
all right, and then I went to five nothing and
then I was like, okay, it's over. Yeah, And you
you hoped maybe kind of like last Friday where it
was like this, well it got got down early, but
then they're going to battle back. But it didn't feel
(28:12):
like that last night. It did last Friday. You kind
of had this like, you know, maybe maybe a night
nothing is silly, but four, okay, there's still signs of life.
They haven't give it up. There was never a four.
There was never two. Night was a fifteen to one
was the final? It was just bad. Yeah, Well tonight
(28:32):
tonight hopefully they can get back a track though. Jose Burials, Yeah,
seven and four, the three A four are he's a
good pitcher. And again, this is the number one team
in the Al East, so you have to kind of
acknowledge that this is a good opponent. By the way,
if they win tonight, they will be five hundred on
the road, like for the Rockies there's sixteen and forty
at home.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I saw a stat today on war wins above replacement
on pitching and hitting. Only one team in all of
baseball has a negative war and it is the Rockies.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Hitting.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
They're pitching is barely above zero and their hitting is
a negative.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Patrick Sanders tweeted earlier today and I guess it's obvious,
but we hadn't thought about it or even said anything
that now at thirty and eighty two, they've officially have
a losing season. Yeah, and it's August.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
What's the beginning of August, the end of July.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Beginning of August. They're still gonna give to forty two.
See that, that's the thing. Like for me, whatever, we're
past it. It's frustrating, but they're gonna get to forty
two and then they won't be the worst team in
all baseball history. That that, for me, is the thing
I keep resting my feet on and and it's a
it's a low bar to clear, but it's one that
just a month ago I wasn't so sure about. But
(29:46):
now I feel pretty good to clear the socks. They're
gonna clear the socks, all right, And I'm good and
I'm not great with it. Not bad, but we're just
not even the best at being bad. Nobody wants to
be Nobody wants to be the worst of all time.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
If you if you're gonna be bad, you might as
well be applically bad. That's the It was the thing
with like that, when the Broncos gave up seventy or whatever,
I was like, just to add McDaniel punch more more in,
you know, don't have him because now that he's taking
it easy with ten minutes to go, now it's that's
you know, that's salt.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Don't be the worst of all time. And I'm happy, Well,
good luck to a Rockies. I am. I'm still on board.
This is gonna get some thirty one and then we're
only eleven away.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I have no faith in them, but if they do
happen to have a scoring output.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Let us get tacos, right, Let's get yeah, let's get tacos.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Just saying tacos apostropheas molino versus burrios.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's gonna be a lot of fun, all right. So
tomorrow the Broncos do not have a practice and then
will be on after the Rockies day game. Just a
little programming note there. Thursday they have the Joy practice.
We have Susie Warden out there. She's gonna be out
there observing practice. He's gonna bring us all sorts of
cool reports for that. Make sure you check out BCT
tonight after the game, yep.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
And then tomorrow night to Steve Atwater and we have
a surprise guest. Tony Matis Nice is retiring and he's
gonna sit down and talk about his young days as
an Indiana Pacers reporter.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Usually when you say surprise guest means you don't know
who they are, but I do, But this time you do.
Grant you're the best. Appreciate your brother for Dave Logan,
I'm Ryan Edwards, Benjamin Albright. Rockies Baseball coming out next
We're gonna head out to the Kawi Commas Spirit Health
(00:01):
how line to bring on? Charles Robinson a fantastic writer
from Yahoo at Charles Robinson on Twitter. Charles, thank you
so much for the time.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
I mean, well, jents, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
We're doing We're doing good. Thanks, As as Ryan said,
appreciate you coming on. So I guess the question I
would have early is that article with Sean, the fact
that he talked about liking the team and and thinking
maybe for the I think six or seven time in
his career, that this could be a super Bowl team.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
How how did that?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
What was the line of questioning it got him to
that point that he was comfortable enough to tell you
what he did.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
So, you know, we're sitting there and I was sitting
with him in the cafeteria and I was just telling
I kind of related to him, like, hey, this has
sort of been this experience here with the Broncos. Every
off season he's kind of graduated to a different mood.
Like the first off season he come through, I think
it was coming off the the Jarrett Belle stuff where
he talked about Nathaniel Hackett and he you know it was.
(01:04):
It was kind of a rough time. I think he
was not in the greatest of the moods, and you know,
knew that there was a lot to dig out of,
you know, I think he knew the Russell Wilson thing
wasn't gonna work already at that time, and it was
only a matter of time before they, you know, had
to make a change. And yeah, I mean it was.
It was just a really rough visit. And then last
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summer I come through and and he had changed, Like
you could tell he was there was a little more
light in his step than he was. There was some optimism,
and I could tell it was because he had the
quarterback you wanted, you know. It was we spent a
lot of time when I came through last summer just
talking about the quarterback and him insisting like, hey, this
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is the guy. You know, like he and Jade and
Daniels were the two guys that we really had graded
one two at the quarterback spot. And you could just
tell he felt like they were turning in the right
direction and there was still work to do, but I
think he was happy with, you know, the young pieces
they'd gotten in the draft, and there was some optimism there.
(02:08):
I remember him telling me that, you know, Courtland Sutton
wasn't I show up. Was like, you're gonna like Courtland's
getting traded right, Like He's like, he's this guy gonna
play for you this season. He swore up and down
that Courtland still had a lot of good football in him.
And you know, and then I come through this this
off season. I said to him, Look, this is very different.
I said, uh, you you know, last year I'm talking
(02:30):
to you and I think the over under was five
and a half wins in Vegas, which really pissed him off.
And uh, I said, Now I come through and there's
a lot of expectations, you know here for you guys,
there's there's a lot of optimism. And you know, I
just said to him, I'm like, you know, you've talked
with me in the past, like he does a lot
of people about you know, don't don't eat the cheese
and the hype and all that stuff. And I just
(02:52):
asked him, I said, you lean into this. I'm like,
how are you handling this right now? And you know
that's when he just straight upset. I. You know, I
think this is a super bow team and you know,
and then rattled off a lot of the different reasons
why he had that confidence, and you could just see,
I mean, because I'm not there every day. It's so
(03:13):
stark to me when you maybe only get a window
into a guy, you know, one time a year where
you really get a chance to sit down with him
for for a period of time. And you know, the
contrast there was was pretty significant over those you know,
three visits, and I didn't. I was kind of like, okay,
you know, all right, you got you're definitely confident. And
(03:35):
I did say wow at one point, we said, you
told me the thing about the first meeting, you know,
I told him the super Bowl and and uh, you
know when he said he thought Bonix, you know, could
be was going to be a top five quarterback in
the next like a couple of years, two years, And
even to me, I was kind of like, okay, you
know this is this is some optimism. And it was
(03:57):
funny because the story was supposed to run on Friday,
but Micah Parsons requested the trade and so I got
pulled into, you know, some coverage on that. So we
decided to hold the story a couple of days, and
then when it went up. I was like, oh, clearly
we should have. We probably should have put on Friday
because I saw the you know, the reaction to it,
and there's no doubt in my mind. You know, I've
(04:20):
I've covered a lot of different versions of Sean Payton,
you know, going back to the New Orleans days, and
I think he's in a really, really good place. And
maybe one thing that I wasn't able to expound on
as much was just the relationship he's got with the
general manager, George Peyton, because I know, when you know,
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Seawan first came in, it was like, all right, well
we'll see, like is this gonna work? And ownership really
wanted it to work, and sometimes that that can come together,
sometimes it can't. And I really do believe, you know,
it has come together between those two guys, and just
talking to peop on the building what the process of
scouting is like. Once Sean sits down at the table
(05:04):
in February and they really start to dig in, it
sounds like, you know, they really work well together, and
they're not. I don't think they're guys that are necessarily alike,
I think, but I think it works because it's two
guys that want to work for each other to get
it right to.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
How much of you this do you think is Sean
being literal? And how much of do you think is
Sean with sort of the hyperbole. I'm motivating my team.
I'm setting the expectation bar high, standard bar high. How
much of this is is literal and how much of
it is not?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
You know, I think it would be more hyperbole if
I didn't know how good that defense is and and
well the potential for how good that defense can be.
You know, I went through San Francisco and I can
tell you right now now we'll see if green Law's healthy.
But to lose Drake Greenlaw, to louse a funga, I
mean the Niners are not happy about that, Like it's
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the staff there is there kind of gritting their teeth
right now, you know, having sustained those losses, and you know,
I think they know they're going to see those guys
go out and play really, really well for the Broncos.
And I think that the fact that Sean sees that defense,
particularly you know, a secondary that could be one of
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the best in the league. Again, if everybody's healthy, it's
going to have a chance to carry games. And I
also think he you know Kansas City, the road always
goes through Kansas City. Well, they split games with Kansas City,
played Kansas City tough and losses, And you know, I
think feeling like he has the quarterback that he wants,
(06:39):
I think he expects Nicks to take another big stride forward,
which you know he should. It's his first true offseason
as a professional football player without having to do the
banquet circuit and all the draft stuff. I think his
confidence is real. Now, do I think? Do I think
there's still other pieces and parts that he wonders about. Sure,
(06:59):
you know, I think the wide receivers he's got to see,
you know what kind of steps up beyond Courtland Sutton
and solidifies. I think the rookie class, you know, Bryant,
I think he really wants to see what he can
bring to the table.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I think I think he feels like you finally got
the running back that he's been looking for. I think
Evan Ingram is a huge deal for him because the
first summer I came through, he was talking about needing
to find that player and it just hadn't happened. And
I do think Ingram can be that type of player.
I don't know how much longer Evan Ingram can be,
(07:37):
you know, a top shelf guy, but I think Peyton
can get you know, some more out of them. So
at the very least the next couple of seasons, I
think Ingram can can really be that joker player that
Sean covets so much. So I do I do do
I think there's an element of it that he is
putting some win in their sales. Sure, But do I
think he believes a lot of what he said to me? Yeah?
(07:57):
I do. I think he's I think he has a
level of confidence in this team that if things come
together the way that that he feels like the talent
is capable of.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Uh, They're they're going.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
To make some noise. Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports joining
us here last one for me. Really appreciate the time,
So I guess I want to spend it to you
and your read on it. We hear what Sean is
wanting out there. He certainly gave you those quotes. They've
gotten a lot of run and I can see where
you pieced it all together. What he believes. You've been
around the game for a long time. What do you
(08:28):
believe about the Broncos, well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know, I want to And I asked them about this.
I said, Okay, I see, I know you have confidence Nicks,
but you know, do you worry about a rollback in
year two? Do you worry about you know you? I
called it the sophomore slump with some guys I live
in Houston. I kind of I put it through the CJ.
Stroud kind of prison. I said, look, everybody thought CJ.
Stroud was a dark horse MVP candidate going into year two,
(08:54):
and then the line implodes, and you know, the offensive
coordinators suddenly can't figure out how to you know, adjust
to injuries, and and you see c J. Stroud go
from you know, wow, this guy is going to be
a top five quarterback in the league quickly to oh man,
we're firing our offensive coordinator, We're retooling the entire line,
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and things take a hard left. And he understood that
when I when I kind of put it to him
and and I think he yields to Yeah, can things
go wrong, certainly? Can there be injuries that that can
undercut Bonix the progress of Bonix? Definitely? But I think
he also believes that you know, people haven't seen maybe
(09:38):
some other things that Nix can do. I wouldn't be
surprised it was. It was interesting to me kind of
listening to him talk about, you know, Nick's using his
legs a little bit more and that didn't make it
into the story, but like you kind of feel like, oh, okay,
there's gonna be some design here where they're going to
use his legs, maybe even a little bit more than
they did last year to create you know, some k
(10:00):
since some mismatches with defense, with the defense as they
face and it bothers him. I think when people kind
of act like Nix is just a check down merchant,
he's not that, And you know, I think he wants
to continue to push that that. You know, when you
remove these plays and you know, you look at what
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happens when he goes down the field with the ball.
He's he's not that he has arm strength and he's
not always looking for you know, the DNK, the dink
and dunk type stuff. So I tend to believe in
really good coaches who have done it won a lot
of games. When I go through, you know, and Kyle
Shanahan's amped up like he's got a really good team,
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or Andy Reid or you know, Sean McVay. It reminds
me a little bit of a McVeigh a couple of
years ago, when you know, they had lost, they had
gone through a really big transition in the offseason, they
had they plugged in a bunch of young players. This
might have been two years ago, and I go out
to practice. I'm like, oh my god, you got a
ton of young guys out there. But McVeigh was like, yeah,
(11:01):
we do. And we can fall on our face, but
I'm I have a lot of confidence that you're going
to see an energy brought by all these young guys
coming in, and uh, you know, we're not going to
be a team that just you know, goes six and
eleven this season. And they weren't. They were very good,
very competitive team. And I believe, you know, coaches, So
(11:22):
I think I can I can trust to have a
pretty good handle on their teams. And I think Sean
usually does.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Great reporting is always Charles really appreciate the time this afternoon, man, Thank.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You absolutely, thanks. Let me on.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I appreciate it. Charles Charles Robinson from Yahoo. Really good stuff. Yeah,
that's good.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I mean, I think I think the last thing he
said is so accurate. He's going to believe in coaches
that have a track record of success. And when he
goes in and sits and talks to him, they're What
I like about it is they have a comfort level
with him that they're going to tell him.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
They're going to tell him the truth.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
They're going to tell him stuff that that normally they
might not say to other members of the media, with
like Sean McVay saying, yeah, we're young. We may fall
on her face, but I'm telling you, you know, I
like this team. That's sort of what I took in
terms of what Sean Peyton said to Charles in their
sitting down.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
He he and it's no surprise he likes this team.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Now they got to go out and play, and the
season is long, there's plenty of things that can happen,
but he likes the makeup of the team, the roster.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's certainly in his image.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Now, I mean this, this Broncos team is now he
in Sean Payton's image. Specifically, on the offensive, the wide
receiver room is built the way he built wide receiver rooms.
The running back platoon is built similar to the way
he you know, he built previous running black patoons say
they've kind of got a tight end that can create
spacing problems, you know with ingram So and noticed I
didn't use.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The word heavy slot there. Run. I think you just did. Yeah, well,
I had to sneak it in somehow. I uh, you know,
you know, if.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
They've got a well paid offensive, there's offenses built in
Sean Payton's image.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yep, it would have been fascinating. I guess Convert if
he didn't like the team, and I don't know what
he would say. And at this point, what did you
do all off season if you didn't like the team,
you know, like just for a time. I don't think
I don't think you.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I don't think you say to Charles, I just don't
like this team, right, we're building something here. But I
also I also think, yeah, I think you would have
couched all of the expectations. I don't think you would
have wanted all the spotlight. I don't think you'd have said, hey,
I think this is the seventh time that I've had
a team in training camp that I believe has the
ability to get to the super Bowl. You'd have said
(13:32):
none of that and said, hey, you know, what. It's
Bo's second year. We expect to take the next step
in the process, and.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I think we're we're headed in the right direction. That's
a good point. I don't know if you saw. It
was like a week or so ago when the Titans
front office and coach were asked about, you know, hey,
do you guys think you can win a Super Bowl
this year? And they were honest, they were absolutely honess,
we don't have this sound. I'll maybe I'll try and
grab that, but they just like, well, we're building.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So there was like a second and a half pause
to where both of them are thinking, all right, how
do we answer that one?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
You know, the coach kind of looked at the GM,
the GM kind of looked at the coach, and neither
one of them really wanted to comment on it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think it was the GM that ultimately did well,
it's a process and building building something here, you know,
the rookie quarterback the other thing that. I mean, there's
some really good stuff there from Charles and the article
is really fun, especially if you're a Broncos fan that's
excited about the season. But the one thing he mentioned
there that he said he wanted to be able to
get in. There was a working relationship between the Peyton's
with George and Sean, and boy, we you know, we
(14:41):
were around around when Sean got hired. I remember when
we were talking about it about well, maybe he's gonna
want to work with a different GM. Maybe that that relationship.
Even if the ownership likes George, maybe he's going to
say I want somebody else in that seat. But the
fact that we're you know, fast forward a few years.
We were just talking about Pat Bryan in the last hour.
Here he is saying from everything I understand that relationship.
(15:02):
To me, it's a good one.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I think George Payton and I've always thought he was
a smart football guy, but I think he has less
of an ego than most anybody that I've ever encountered
that has the GM title of an NFL team. Lots
of gms want to they want to take credit, they
want to make sure you know that was George just
(15:25):
doesn't strike me as that guy at all, which I
think has gone a long way in his ability to
work with a guy like Sean Payton.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I would absolutely back that up to wait, I would
tell a story. Uh, George Payton had just completed the
trade for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
What did he do?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
He had the perfect opportunity to leak it to a
couple of bonehead you know, koa guys comes down, grabs
a beer with me and I doesn't talk about it
at all, doesn't say a word about it at all.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Just comes down, has an aw shucks beer with us
at the time. You know, could have could have gone
back to you know, could have gone.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Some high roller place like some of the gms, could
have gone anyway, come down to the velocity there in
Indianapolis the hotel bar, had a beer with me and
Ryan didn't say a word about it. Unbelievable poker face. Yeah,
I would never play that guy in poker ever. I
have not on my life. And I wasn't a hint
that it was done.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And I was trying to fish something out of him
because I was talking about Kayon Thibodeau and how Kevon
had made some comments in the media's crown about wanting
to be the next Von Miller and how he wants
he would love to come play for the Broncos because
he wants to continue that legacy. And so I was
just like, ah Man, some great stuff from you know
Thibodeau today and you know, talking about von Miller and
he's like, huh, yeah, that great. We're looking at all
(16:31):
of them, you know, nobody. He didn't have a drive
pick anymore, didn't have a first round anymore. And he's
just sitting there just having it but just all shucks
beer with with you know.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Maybe he's just sitting there at the corner of the bar,
you know. And yeah, but he's always been that guy,
kind of humble, kind of you know, putting very much,
but he's good at what he does. I think the
thing for me is he had already sold ownership on him,
you know, but Sean Payton was going to get his
choice if this was the guy or not.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But do you want to see you want to see
if he can make it work. And I think he
sold Sean Payton on the you know, on his.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Work ethic ofaluations and need for no credit in any
of it.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, and there's I imagine and that Sean would say
this outwardly, but I imagine for ownership as well as for Sean.
You do like a little bit of balance, you know, right,
I mean the process. You don't want somebody just to
agree with everything you're saying just just to agree, and
he because because Sean has told the story for a
long time about Mickey Loomis and how they were sort
of paired together because Mickey was already there in New Orleans.
(17:25):
And I think Sean had the same kind of thing, like, oh, well,
we'll see if this works out. And they're like became
best friends. And I think that he saw this as
an opportunity. Okay, well we'll see how this works. And
then now they're in a position. I don't know if
they're best friends. I won't go that far, but I
will say that they've found an EBB and flow to
each other. And you even notice when they're talking about
the draft, there's this give and take nature of Okay, you, hey,
(17:46):
the coach wants this, We're gonna do everything we can
to get that thing. But also there's there's some guidelines
that we're trying to also accomplish.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, I think that George, aside from being and I've
said this before before Sean got here too, he's in
astute football guy. I mean, he's the football you can
sit and talk to George and just his evaluation. He
understands talent, he knows what he's looking at. And I
think with a coach like Sean Payton, there are times
where you want to be the sounding board for him.
(18:14):
There are times where you want to balance really how
he views a certain situation, and there are times where
I think you're going to be deferential. And I think
George understands the difference between those three things and how
to kind of walk each line. And I think he's
been really good at his job really since he got here.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Mike, be glad you joins us. Next Saturday nights, the
first preseason game, we head out to the Koi Commas
bear Hell Hotline and bring on your starting right tackle
for the Denver Broncos. Mike mcglinche, Mike, you're on with
Benjamin Albright right everts How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I'm doing well, guys. How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We're doing fantastic, very excited for the start of the season.
How his training camp been for you so far?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
That's been great. You know, It's been a great battle
between us and the defense. I think we're talented on
both sides and it's been a lot of great work
getting ready to go and get our first test of
playing against a new team. This week and joint practice
and then the preseason game. It's gonna be a lot
of fun.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Obviously, there's something to shake it off the doldrums of
camp with you know, get getting some preseason action and
the joint practice stuff. Is there anything extra with you know,
so many of you guys having been former forty nine ers,
any extra juice to any of that?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yeah, No, I've been going for three years now. I mean,
maybe Huff and Drake and say something different, but no,
I have nothing but love for those guys back there
that you know, I was where I was able to chance,
you know, start my dream of playing my career in
the NFL, and a lot of people still in that
building that I care for deeply. But it's uh, you know,
it's gonna be awesome. There's a lot of good players
(19:46):
over there, and it's gonna be a good test for
us and to see where our game's at and how
we need to get better.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Where you feel like the offense is at right now
in this point in training camp and as far as
you guys get getting ready for the season, we're in.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
A great spot. You know. Obviously we're training camps, training
camp and you're gonna make the stakes. Things are going
to be different to you the first time you put
things in the offense. They're gonna be rusty or not
quite where we need them to be. But that's why
we practiced. Right It's we got three or four weeks
to go before you know, we start doing real game
prep and and right now it's about sharpening the skills
that we need and owning the concepts of the play calls.
(20:22):
And I think we've done a great job with that
so far. So you just got to keep going one
foot in front of the other and one day at
a time, and we'll be uh right where we want
to be in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
You know, the national narrative has changed on the Denver
Broncos from where it was last year.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You had a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Talking about five and a half win seasons at the
you know, at the books. You know that the coverage
wasn't the same as it is this year. It seems
everybody expects this team to uh to take.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That next step. I mean, you got you know, the
great line.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
You've added players in the running back room, you re
signed Courtland in the receiving room, and bow get the
second year. What what are the personal expectations for this
offense this season.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Well, I personally, I think we can be as good
we allow ourselves to be. I think we're in control
of what we wanted to do, things that I think
we're you know, the good thing is is we're so
we're in a great spot. We're talented, and I think
as long as we are on our stuff, we believe
we can be at the top of the NFL. And
that's what we're working for. And you know, I think
(21:19):
we've seen a lot of progress going towards that goal.
But we got you know, it's not about being great
the best in week one. It's about growing each game,
growing each week, and being as good as we can
be when Week eighteen and then the playoffs starts.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Rum's right tackle Mike mcglinche joining us here on k Sports.
You guys made the playoffs last year. Unfortunately it didn't
end probably the way almost anybody wanted to, because you'd
like to win a Super Bowl every year ostensibly. So
how does that game specifically fuel this team in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I think it was, you know a little bit of
a wake up call in the way that, yeah, we
had a great run. It was great to get to
the playoffs, but it was a wake up call in
the fact that we have a lot of work to
do to be able to be at the top of
the AFC and at the top of the NFL. We
don't want to just get in the door at the
playoffs anymore. We want to be the ones breaking it
down and h and making a run. And so, like
(22:10):
I said, the only way you can do that is
like handling your business each and every day and each
and every game. And and that's the mindset the coach
preaches every day and we're doing a great job with that.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know if you saw the quote we were
just talking to Charles Robinson with Yahoo. Your coach Sean
Payton said that you're one of seven teams that he
believes they could win a Super Bowl. When your coach
goes out there and puts something like that in print,
what does that mean to you?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Well, I think it's just something that we all believe.
I don't think that there's any doubt in our building
that we have the ability to compete at the highest
level of this league. And you know, we've been building
something slowly for the last couple of years, and I
think we're ready to go. And you know, I think
if you're not trying to obtain goals like that, if
you don't believe that you're in that conversation, then I
don't know why you. You know, you strap up and play,
(22:56):
and that's that's what we're going to try and do,
is to throw and attack it and make sure that
we're one of the last ones standing.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Last one I have for you, Mike, really appreciate the
time so you you chose to come to the Broncos
and free agency when Sean got here a few years ago,
you were, of course coming to a team that had
just won five games and reset the coaching staff, and
we're resetting the culture. I mean, thinking back to that
moment when Sean sold you on the dream the vision
of this team. How closely in line is it now, I'd.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Say it's right on, you know. I it was an
interesting process going through all that with free agency, and
it's not something that I really loved doing. But when
you have the opportunity to have a lot of conversations
with a coach like Sean Payton and and the ownership
group that we have here, you kind of could see
what was going to be, what what would happen eventually,
(23:46):
and I chose to put my career in a guy
that you know, has proven that he can do it
and he and he's done well over sustained periods of time.
And I knew there was I knew that this was
going to happen. I wasn't sure when, but I'm happy
that it's happening a little bit sooner than we thought.
And you know, I'm very, very fortunate to be a Bronco.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Mike. We really appreciate the time man. Best of luck,
not only this weekend whatever playing time you guys ultimately have,
but also this season. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Thank you guys. Appreciate it all, right, Mike.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
McGlinchey, that's stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I think his assessment there where the offense is coming
along is about right. It says not that you can
say in this very moment, what twelve days in training camp,
that you were everything that you want to be, But
then simultaneously you have to appreciate the process and the
fact that they all were getting better. I mean, the
interceptions aside, there were things, but even today's practice R J.
Harvey phenomenal, The blocking up front and this is a
(24:42):
pad's day. And hey, we were out there on some
of those pads days where the defensive line was overwhelming
the offensive line, and I don't think that happened today.
I think he acknowledged that too.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
I think he kind of said, you know, we're still
trying to put some things together, try to figure out
the timing tempo on things trying to fit, you know.
I mean he acknowledged where they're at that the off
the defense is had the better of the offense much
of training camp. That's kind of where you're at with this,
and you know, I think he I think hit the
nail on the head that you just keep plugging away
and the things start to fall into place and you
get better.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
As you go. He really did have to take a
bit of a leap of faith because I remember you
were reporting that was that the Bears that were interested
in Mike McGlinchey several teams and he even said He's like,
I didn't love the free agent process necessarily, but Sean,
I mean, this was one of his first signings, right.
It was. It was him has been powers like day one.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
There was a centerpiece of what he was trying to
do here implementing you know, Sean Payton's things.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So and he believed there were some people that didn't believe.
That's what I'm saying. Mike McGlinchey. You know, I think interesting.
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Obviously Mike's O line coach from college went up there
to Chicago, and so there was there were ties there,
and you know, he could have gone to the Bears,
and who knows who the tackle would have been right
tackle been.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You know, I'd been a problem for the Broncos for
a long time.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
And whatever you think of Mike mcglinchey's certainly been a
serviceable starter at right tackle beenimum Oh, no doubt, I'm underselling,
but you yeah, no, he's certainly been. You know, certainly
the days that the menlik Watson are gone. Donald, Oh
my god. Yeah, we've we've we've we've seen n Jones,
John James, sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
John James. Yeah, and that was the post. I mean,
that was when they spit up, and they really spin up.
They painted more than any of the right tackle in history.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, I'm skipping over the Evan Mathis Jared Veldeer you know,
years or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
But yeah, yep, thank you for skipping over that. No,
he's been he's been great, and it's it's an offensive
line that.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's one of the high I mean all the analytics
people say it's one of the best.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Lines in football.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yes, So whatever, you wherever you come down on that,
and you look around, I mean, there's certainly talent there.
You've got Mike, You've got Quinn, You've got Garrett Bowles,
you know, and Ben.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Powers and Luke Wattenberg. The only thing I I wish
I would ask him more and more about is the
fact that they are going to a little more wide zone
because I do think that that fits him really well.
It probably does.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
You know, him and Garrett both hit them both a
little bit a little bit better because they are athletic tackles.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Uh, They're a little bit leaner.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Than some of the the you know, the big boy
tackles you see out there at times.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
All Right, we'll get that interview up at Kwacolorado dot
com or on the completely free and totally awesome my
Heart radio app which is completely free, as I mentioned,
and you can set kaway as a preset, say KWA
Sports as a preset that we never missed an episode
of the show, great stuff from Mike McGlinchey, Charles Robinson
earlier from Yahoo Sports. It's been a fun show so far,
(27:25):
including Dave Logan describing the first and only time he
did marijuana. That was that was sensational. Man coming soon.
I can't I can't recommend the podcast enough if you
missed Dave describing his live the Dave Logan story, all right,
(27:49):
we got rockies come out of here at the top
of the our boy. Was a rough night last night
for our Rockies. It was one of those like they're
kind of keeping it close, keep it close. I'm like,
all right, and then I went to five nothing and
then I was like, okay, it's over. Yeah, And you
you hoped maybe kind of like last Friday where it
was like this, well it got got down early, but
then they're going to battle back. But it didn't feel
(28:12):
like that last night. It did last Friday. You kind
of had this like, you know, maybe maybe a night
nothing is silly, but four, okay, there's still signs of life.
They haven't give it up. There was never a four.
There was never two. Night was a fifteen to one
was the final? It was just bad. Yeah, Well tonight
(28:32):
tonight hopefully they can get back a track though. Jose Burials, Yeah,
seven and four, the three A four are he's a
good pitcher. And again, this is the number one team
in the Al East, so you have to kind of
acknowledge that this is a good opponent. By the way,
if they win tonight, they will be five hundred on
the road, like for the Rockies there's sixteen and forty
at home.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I saw a stat today on war wins above replacement
on pitching and hitting. Only one team in all of
baseball has a negative war and it is the Rockies.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Hitting.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
They're pitching is barely above zero and their hitting is
a negative.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Patrick Sanders tweeted earlier today and I guess it's obvious,
but we hadn't thought about it or even said anything
that now at thirty and eighty two, they've officially have
a losing season. Yeah, and it's August.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
What's the beginning of August, the end of July.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Beginning of August. They're still gonna give to forty two.
See that, that's the thing. Like for me, whatever, we're
past it. It's frustrating, but they're gonna get to forty
two and then they won't be the worst team in
all baseball history. That that, for me, is the thing
I keep resting my feet on and and it's a
it's a low bar to clear, but it's one that
just a month ago I wasn't so sure about. But
(29:46):
now I feel pretty good to clear the socks. They're
gonna clear the socks, all right, And I'm good and
I'm not great with it. Not bad, but we're just
not even the best at being bad. Nobody wants to
be Nobody wants to be the worst of all time.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
If you if you're gonna be bad, you might as
well be applically bad. That's the It was the thing
with like that, when the Broncos gave up seventy or whatever,
I was like, just to add McDaniel punch more more in,
you know, don't have him because now that he's taking
it easy with ten minutes to go, now it's that's
you know, that's salt.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Don't be the worst of all time. And I'm happy, Well,
good luck to a Rockies. I am. I'm still on board.
This is gonna get some thirty one and then we're
only eleven away.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
I have no faith in them, but if they do
happen to have a scoring output.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Let us get tacos, right, Let's get yeah, let's get tacos.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Just saying tacos apostropheas molino versus burrios.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
It's gonna be a lot of fun, all right. So
tomorrow the Broncos do not have a practice and then
will be on after the Rockies day game. Just a
little programming note there. Thursday they have the Joy practice.
We have Susie Warden out there. She's gonna be out
there observing practice. He's gonna bring us all sorts of
cool reports for that. Make sure you check out BCT
tonight after the game, yep.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
And then tomorrow night to Steve Atwater and we have
a surprise guest. Tony Matis Nice is retiring and he's
gonna sit down and talk about his young days as
an Indiana Pacers reporter.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Usually when you say surprise guest means you don't know
who they are, but I do, But this time you do.
Grant you're the best. Appreciate your brother for Dave Logan,
I'm Ryan Edwards, Benjamin Albright. Rockies Baseball coming out next
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