08-07-25 KOA Sports Hour 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dave Logan, Ryan the Edwards with you photo photo. That
was amazing? Is that that that's real?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's not Oh no, that's real.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I've had that for I don't know, six or seven years,
maybe ten years.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, it's hard to describe.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
That was I think before AI.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Okay, all right, well you have to understand, don't just
put it up on your h.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nothing wrong with that, okay, alright, I firmly believe that
is exactly the truth.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
That's a truthful statement. You're carrying a holstered dog. In fact,
he's carrying a holter dog. Two holstered dogs. Each guy
has a holstered dog.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's the title is You know you're a badass when
you carry a holstered dog.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
There's two guys with the dog.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Is muzzled and they're they're going into.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
The thick of it with two dogs on their back.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes, we live.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Where you have to wonder for a moment like, hey,
did you create this something?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Chat cheep, I've had I've had it too long.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
That's cool. Well I'll try to tweet that out here
in a menage. How are you my friend?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Good? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's uh about you. I'm good. I'm good. You know
as a little you know, missing out on practice today
out there with the San Francisco I it's one of
those deals. Man, hey, listen, we're gonna have joint practice
for the Cardinals next week. That that's gonna be a
lot of fun. That's not Thursday. Yep, yep. So we
get we do get a joint practice here. But boy,

(01:30):
it sounded like it was really really highly competitive. Is
really good. We're gonna have Susie Warden and joining us
in three thirty with the last and all that. And
it's fascinating though, because you read on Twitter, because that's
all we could do. There's no video. You read on
Twitter as it's going and you had this moment like, yeah, man,
this guy's this guy's tearing it up, and no, this
looks great, and this looks great. And then a little

(01:50):
bit later on, oh, you know, hey, the forty nine
ers are scoring touchdowns against our defense.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
All right, well, but I I mean, they're not gonna
They're gonna give up some points this year. Yeah right,
it's I mean, just if this defense at the end
of the year has given up an average of less
than twenty points a game, this team is gonna I.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Mean they will be right in the thick of it.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I think, yeah, that's that's that's pretty good. Here's Sean
Payton on how he thought practice win today.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Obviously a lot of good film for us to get
on here in the next you know, day and a
half anytime.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
And you guys know this.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
You get to work against a different team, different cadence,
different defense alignments, offensively the same way, rout concepts. You know,
you're you're solving maybe some problems on the fly.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I spent the book most of the practice on the
offensive field. Of course, Kyle was on their offensive field.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
You know, I said to the players.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
There there's a lot when we get back to the
hotel that we're going to want to look at clean up. Overall,
I was pleased with the work we got and on
both sides, I thought, you know, handled themselves well.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
It was competitive.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
We got a ton of situational work, you know, two
minute red zone, third down, a lot of teamwork. So
a lot of players getting a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You know, you didn't hear about a lot of skirmishes,
a lot of you know, there was one I guess
there is special teams. But it was super minor. I mean,
it was sounded like it was a really crisp practice
all throughout. Benjamin Albright, he's coming up on Broncos Country
tonight this evening. He said he got a tweet from
or a text from several people that were out there
seeing the Broncos defense looked incredible. And of course they're
without Drake Greenlaw, who was still not practicing. And I

(03:45):
don't know if I think you know, Brandon Jones didn't
practice as well. So although it seems like pretty good,
a conversation I want to get into with you in
a little while is about the wide receivers, because true
Franklin once again had had a really nice practice there.
If you are going to raise your expectations on so

(04:06):
let's just for a moment take Corland Sudden, Marvin Mims,
and Evan Ingram and put them in their own category, right,
just for a second. You got Devon Vley, You've got
Troy Franklin, and you got Pat Bryant. Kind of the
next three up, no offense, Trent Sherfield. So there's next
three up. If you are going to say I'm willing

(04:27):
to bet a certain amount of Ryan's money, go ahead
and You've bet my money on this guy is going
to exceed expectations of what I thought of him this
upcoming season. Who would it be?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, you mean of my expectations.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yes, Well, you and I have done the show together
for a while, and I think I've been pretty consistent
in talking about Troy Franklin this year, even though he's
not listed as the starter, he's listed behind Marvin Mims.
I think Troy Franklin has the chance to have a
I don't know if I want to call it a

(05:00):
breakout season, but a very productive season, a number of
big plays, and that's what I mean. This offense, I think,
you know, yeah, the Memes was kind of their explosive guy,
especially in the second half of the season. Ninety three
yard touchdown pass against the Browns. He had the however

(05:21):
long it was sixty some of the oar touchdown pass
against the Bengals, and then came back and caught one
that looked like it was going to send the game
into overtime.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
So he's made he's made some big, big plays.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I think Franklin will be I don't I don't mean
in lieu of Mems production, but I think together, I
think I think Troy Franklin is on track to be
a really productive, big play guy for the Broncos this season. So,
but that wouldn't exceed my expectations, because that's what my
eyes have told me watching practice virtually every day. You

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got to find ways to get this guy the ball.
He has to do his part. You got to catch
the ball when it's thrown to you. But I think
he will and he'd be the guy in terms of
the wide receiver room.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You can't send me those text during the year.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well you know that was another one.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think that came from Susie Oh exactly the week
of the Broncos Panthers game Super Bowl fifty.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Feel free, Yeah, you know, feel free to laugh at
you deliver.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It free in my head. Yeah right, But you know,
to your point, to your point, Troy Franklin, because he
only had two hundred and sixty three receiving yards last year,
and this is of course not including the postseason. He
only had two hundred and sixty three receiving yards in
the regular season last year, He's got the most room
for growth, right. I mean, of the options that I
gave you, dvon Bailey had four seventy five. Pat Bryan's
Brandon to the team. So he's a rookie really unknown.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
He looks good in training camp, but it's going to
be interesting to see how he fits in to the offense,
especially on in the season. Maybe later on he gets
a bigger role. But I think you nailed that. I
guess I came into the season. If you were going
to ask me who that next guy of that group
was gonna be, I would have sworn up and down
as Devon Vley and it really would have felt pretty

(07:09):
good about it, even knowing our back and forth about
divide Valay and how you've tried to convince me he
could be a wide receiver one and I kept pushing back.
Right even after all that, I would have said, you
have a great point about what his floor looks like
and what he did in this offense last year and

(07:29):
when he was healthy, being a reliable target in the offense.
He had four hundred and seventy five receiving yards as
a rookie, A seventh round rookie. He know it was
five hundred receiving yards, David. He only played thirteen games.
You know how you can tell.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
I think what a staff really believes and not necessarily
what the head coach talks about during the week. To
folks like us, go back and look and see, like
how much certain players, how much play any time they got,

(08:02):
how many snaps did they get? What where were the snaps?
Were they in special teams, were they in offense, or
what have you. As much as Troy Franklin struggled last
year trying to come up with catching a deep ball,
they they played him quite a bit. Now if they

(08:23):
didn't see something in that kid about the second deep
ball you drop in a game, you are just banished
to like the hell hole wherever it is a dove.
I mean, you're just you know, you're lucky if your
food is hot when you order it, right, I mean,

(08:44):
it's it's the you.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Know, the proverbial doghouse. It exists.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
With Troy Franklin, though, I bet, I mean, I was
saying I couldn't figure out what they were doing with
mems in the first half of the season. I still
think there was something we don't know. We'll probably never know.
But he wasn't on the field much, and then you
see the kind of explosive ability he has in certain
certain aspects of the game that are not kickoff and

(09:13):
punt returned parts. So I think they probably played Franklin.
I'd have to go back and look at this. I'm
not sure. Maybe behind Vaile, but I think Franklin, especially
the way that mems first half of the season went.
I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin had more plays last

(09:36):
year than Mems, and I think if that's true, then
I think it shows you really what the coaching staff
sees in Troy Franklin and what they expect to get
from him this year.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
It feels like that, and it feels like they kept
putting him out there, and even in high leverage situations.
You remember in the Bengals game, he was out there,
even in overtime. Remember there's the overthrow ye that didn't
quite ca And I think a lot of us were like,
ah Lee's that's a no offense to Troy Franklin. Is
that the receiver you want in that moment when you
need that completion and you're trying to target Troy Franklin.

(10:10):
But to your points, like, hey, let's.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
See the cover the coverage I think took bow there right,
he had single coverage and Franklin. I believe Franklin for
sure is on the left side of the formation, and
I think he's there by himself and they're either playing
one free or they're playing zero. But I've got single
coverage on Troy Franklin outside and I'm just going to
try to get him on a little fade route.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
So the idea was good.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
The coverage takes you to where you're going with the ball,
not necessarily more times than the actual receiver will, but
they just missed and that's going to be a huge play.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
One thing that we've noticed at a camp, and I
guess happened a lot today was they had some opportunities
to work on scramble drill. And you know you and
I've talked a lot about scrambled drill is it is
one of the most unique sort of facets about the
NFL that probably doesn't get the coverage that really deserves
because some of the biggest plays in the league tend

(11:06):
to come off of that. Right. Yeah, that deserves the design,
but most of the time, the design of the play.
You firstly, you can't design scramble drill. The design of
the play will lead you one way. But if the
defense snuffs that out. In fact, if they get through one, two,
and three, then you've got to do something with the
ball right because the clock is going. Bonix had some
really nice moments last year. I thought this was a

(11:28):
cool answer from Sean Payton when he was asked about
the benefits of being good at scramble drill.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
When you get used to that. And we've seen this
with other quarterbacks. Shoot Aaron Rodgers in the red zone
was one of the best. You know, a play doesn't develop,
you know, and he moves and in concert, you know,
the play moves with him, and so it's practiced and
then when you begin to see it happened probably four

(11:57):
times today. You know, there's certain scramble rules that we
discuss far far receiver, near receiver, backside receiver, you know,
in regards to getting in phase with the quarterback and
uh and there are a lot of places.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
To be had.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You were not along with that. Yeah, they work on it. Well,
they work on it all the time. I mean every
single team. Sometimes when the quarterback, when when people are
watching an NFL regular season game and a quarterback in
this case, bone Nicks breaks contained and he's running to
his right, I think people are focused on the quarterback
and then he throws and here's the receiver wide open,

(12:32):
and they I think a lot of times I think
they feel like that has happens, just happened, happenstance, and
it really isn't. I mean, as Sean was detailing, I mean,
you've got, depending on which side he flushes to, you
have rules as a receiver, and you practice those rules
quite a bit. Right If you're the if you're the
short route, you're the one in the flat to the

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playside as he scrambles, you'll have an intermediate route, and
then you'll have a deep route. If you're that guy
in the quarterback scrambles to your side, you're taking an
angle to We used to take an angle towards the pylon,
and it's that's that's the deep throw. Now if he's
the guys away from the ball are just trying to
get to the middle of the field and then hope

(13:14):
that he doesn't throw it back across the field. But yeah,
the scrambled drill, it's, uh, there's a lot of it.
I mean a lot of it is extemporaneous, but there's
a lot of it also with receivers that is that's
been worked on in practiced and scripted to a certain degree.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I love that he described Aaron Rodgers there because that
he might.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Be especially in the red zone, right, Oh.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
My goodness, it seemed impossible sometimes and his heyday and
at the height of his powers, Aaron Rodgers in the
red zone was was as surgical as it could get.
I agree, And to your point, it was practiced. It
didn't always feel that way because of the way that
it all came together, but it almost had to be
right because he was so consistently good at it, and

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defenses consistently didn't have an answer for it either, So
it was it was a cool quarter have to bring
up there. I was trying to think. I mean, of
course John had some amazing place. Yep, it's scrabbled drill, right,
I mean John that way, Yes, John always sorry he
had He had some incredible place in scrabble drill as well.
But it just Aaron Rodgers kind of epitomizes that in
a lot of ways. If we get there as an

(14:17):
office where the Broncos and Bonnicks are being talked, maybe
not to the Aaron Rodgers level, right, but if you're
talked about one of the best scramble drill teams in
the NFL. What would that mean, uh, for.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Air I think for Bonnicks detractors, it would mean you
get to again harp on the fact that he's breaking
the pocket too soon. And I think there are times,
but you could find that with every single quarterback in
the NFL if you went back and really looked at
it critically on you know, a handful of plays, two handfuls, Yeah,
that guy get out of the pocket a little bit

(14:51):
too soon. Even if you're somebody like Jared Goff who's
strictly a prop pocket passer, probably two handfuls of plays
over a seventeen game regular season where he's going to
break contain and you're like, ah, I should have stayed
in there. If I slide up, I don't have to
get out. But it happens so fast in a game.

(15:11):
But I think if to answer your question, if the
Broncos are regarded as one of the better teams, the
beauty about the red zone from a defensive standpoint is
the windows shrink right, so it's harder to complete. That's
why the running game is so critical in the red zone.

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But from an offensive standpoint, not every single snap, but
you're gonna get a lot of man demand coverage, right,
and so if the quarterback is able to escape and
extend the play, it is almost impossible. From a defensive standpoint,
even if you're one of the great defenders secondary members

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in league, it's hard to stay with these receivers because
they're running pivots. They're starting one way, coming back as
fast as they can, and the ball get there before
you can really adjust.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
So if Nix and.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
The Broncos become one of the NFL's best teams at that,
I think it's nothing but a good thing. Playfake Nicks
rolls toys left rows the ball in the run.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Ball through the end zone. That is a Denver touchdown.
That ball caught by Nate Atkins.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
It was on the far corner east side the southeast
part of the end zone and Atkins went down after
Nick's roll toys left squared his shoulders went down to
get it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
He had to wait momentarily to make sure.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
That he caught the ball.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, Nate Atkins with three touchdowns last year.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Now, that's more of a design play. Sure, that was
not a scramble per se. That's a design play and
they as you said, they utilized that play really well
last year.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
They did. Here was Bonnicks earlier today talking about scramble drill.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
But it's something that's you know, happens naturally, but it's
definitely something you got to work at and you know,
take time working at it. It can be a strength
if you allowed.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
It to be.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
So those players are always you know, can be good,
can be bad, and I just want to go out
there and make the best play at that time, whether
it's running, whether it's finding a person to throw it to.
And so we've been practicing that really this offseason, this
training camp. It's hard to kind of really do them
because they're so like abrupt, they just come, you know,
they're out of nowhere, and so you just go out

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there and try to make it play and don't make
you know, something bad worse.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
You know, it's not like that to make something bad worse.
To his point, though, he's been practicing against his own
defense now for a couple of weeks. Now, for the
first time, getting a chance to go against the forty
nine ers, I gotta imagine because he had some guest today.
He hit Devon Vailey on a scramble drill he hit
to Corland side in the red zone, a scramble drill
for a touchdown. It's a nice place today. From the

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description we got on Twitter, I have to believe that
this defense the Broncos defense. Seeing him do it in practice,
you get used to those tendencies, right, Oh, hey, you're
breaking contained. I wonder where you're gonna be going with it,
you know, I wonder who we need a plaster on
the back end of this deal. And of course he
may not always scramble, which, of course in the regular
season he's going to do, and that's part of it.

(18:08):
I like to your point, by the way, I was
just going to give you some props when you said
people will still be out there. His attractors will say, God,
he'd left the pocket too soon. Sure, it's you know,
even if he does something incredible and he and he
creates something amazing, people will find a reason to take
a look at it and say, yeah, well he had
a guy that was wide open. He didn't really have

(18:28):
to do all of that.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think I think we, you know, we overanalyze the NFL.
It's part of the allure of the league because there's
never been more media coverage in NFL history than we
have right now, and I think we you could break
down every single play and find something that, in this case,

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a quarterback might have done a little bit differently. Maybe
not every single play, but in an eighty play game,
you can find sixty five of those that that quarterback
could have done something a little bit better or a
little differently, or what have you with just about every
single quarterback. I just I have such respect for the game,

(19:17):
and I know the game is such a hard game,
and it's a game full of failure.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
And I think for young players, your ability just to
learn from mistakes and then figure out how not to
duplicate that mistake as best you can is really important.
That Bonies leave the pocket a little bit early at times.
Last year, Sure he did, no question he did. That

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does not mean he cannot be an effective quarterback. That
does not mean he can't improve in that particular area.
There's other areas I think that he wanted to improve on.
I mean, he told me yesterday and you'll hear it
at some point. One of the things that he focused
on in the offseason was just his footwork. He said,
I felt like, and I'm paraphrased, and but I felt

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like I got a college game. You get a little
bit long with your delivery because you can, and when
you do that, your feet slow down. And I thought
it was really, uh a self awareness moment that he
and maybe somebody told him, but he worked on quicker feet,
quicker release, because you have to have that in the

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NFL to be a good quarterback. I think this kid
is going to be really good, and I think you're
going to see him better this year than you saw
him last year, and I think the team is going
to be a little bit better as well.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Completally agree. We'll get into a bigger Bonux conversation coming
up at four thirty day in five. In fact, that
SoundBite that you mentioned, we'll hear that a little later
on too, because we have that cueued up. And when
we come back, Susie Warrish is going to join us
from Santa Clara. I get her thoughts on today's practice.
We'll get to that next. Denver Bronco is upcoming season.

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In fact, the preseason starts on Saturday. Our cover starts
at three o'clock. Very excited about that, been all Bright
will be on and of course we'll get to a
countdown to kick off at four point thirty, kick at
six thirty out in Santa Clara. But today was about
joint practice. As we head out to the Kiawi Commas
Spirit Health Hotline and somebody you're gonna hear very prominently
on our broadcasts over the course of the season on

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the sideline, Susie Wargen joining us live from Santa Clara. SUSI,
thank you so much for the time.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
How are you, Yes, I'm good, very prominently. Does Dave
know that I'm taking over?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, Dave knows.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Dave's worked with you long enough to know exactly how
you work, and so I am fine with that, I
really am.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I've brought your boards.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I'm leaving in the morning and I'll see you for
lunch tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Very good, Hey, so loud, So let me ask you what.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I mean, just sort of detail some of the things
that that caught your interest in watching practice today?

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Yeah, so very lively. Long started, you know, they started
stretching at ten. Practice started at about ten thirty, went
until just after twelve thirty, like twelve forty ish Pacific time,
So it's just an over two hour practice. Music is
blairing the whole time. They've got a full set of
stands and so lots of people on tap. It was
also today, eight seven, August seventh is Dwight Clark Day,

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so they had a lot of people out here you
know for that and people with als, which is really
kind of cool to have that. It all just happened
to be on the same day. There was a joint practice.
But as far as the practices go, they were good.
I've seen over pretty much where I could see kind
of in the shape, it was very It was hot
here today. I know it's not as hot as it
is Denver, but over on that side where the offense

(22:42):
was going with the San Francisco defense, and it was good.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I think that's where everybody's trying to figure out, Okay, what's.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
This offense going to do.

Speaker 6 (22:50):
We've seen, you know, the defense really step it up
during training camp, but what about the offense and what
made some great throws? Saw I'll make another great throw.
Detroy Franklin, who had pre games peace with on Saturday,
and he's really coming into his own. I think we've
seen a lot of great things from him so far
in training camp. Had a touchdown to Trent Sherfield. Some
good runs this afternoon by RJ and JK. When I

(23:12):
did look over at the defensive side, you know, it
seemed like they were doing what they needed to do.
They had an earlier period that I didn't watch, and
they had some some pass breakups and they're the one
that I watched. They didn't they were San Francisco was
the forty nine ers were doing their thing against the
defense a little bit, but it was really good, great spirited.
Sean Payton stayed over on the offensive side the whole time.
Kyle Shanahans later over on the forty nine ers offensive

(23:34):
side the whole time. So, you know, very coordinated, no fights,
which was great, but still you know, very physical and
fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
How does it compare, in your opinion to what we've
seen so far practice over the last week and a half,
like as far as the defensive performance, the offensive performance,
now that you're going against a different team.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, great question. So I think that, you know, it
was good to see the defense go against that forty
nine ers offense because you could see where you know,
I mean, you got Christian was out there, You've got
all their big playmakers, out there, So it was good
to see what they were doing against the d. Like
I said, when I watched in that second, you know,
big period that they had together, I didn't see a
lot of pass breakups. I think Tat might have got

(24:13):
beat on one, and you just don't see that very often.
So I think it's a great test for them to
go up against a really good offense like the forty
nine Ers, and then as far as the Broncos offense,
great to see them doing the same thing against a
good defense. So I think it was really good. And
post practice I went in and listened to the forty
nine Ers and listened to Al Shanahan talk and Christian

(24:34):
and you know, just to kind of get their take
on what they said about the Broncos. And of course,
you know they're going to be complimentary and we're glad
to not go against each other like they've been doing
in camp and to go against what they called, you know,
two really good sides of the ball with Broncos.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So you would say, so you would characterize that the
practice as as having good energy, right, I mean I
am I hearing that from me in terms of just
how both teams.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Got after it.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
They good.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah, I mean, and there was you know, there were
times and it's hard to tell sometimes and even where
we have to stand, you can't always see, just like
when we have practice at the Broncos facility. But when
you could see and you're trying to figure out, okay,
would that have been a sack, Probably would have been
a sack. You can't you know, when guys let up
a little bit on that deepensive side. There were probably
a couple of times where a bo would have gone down,

(25:19):
or you know, something would have happened that didn't happen,
you know, a run went through or a pass got completed.
So but still I feel like they guys were out there.
Even though there weren't any fights, there were there was
good energy. There was still bumping and uh.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
And some popping. Going out to our last one for
you to is you really appreciate you being out there
and reporting for us. And of course we'll hear you
in the broadcast coming up on Saturday night. So predominantly yeah,
prominently damn right. So I guess we find out after practice.
Kyle Shanahan says that they're not really going to play

(25:54):
a lot of starters. I mean, give us a little
bit of the perspective. Yeah, he really he's.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Look, yeah, he doesn't want to really commit to it.
And I was in there when he said that. He's
you know, Kyle, Kyle is so much like his dad.
It's so funny listening to his press conferences because I
felt like I was going back in time and listening
to Mike, who, by the way, was out of practice
today and hopefully I'll be chatting with him tomorrow and
we'll have a pregame piece with Mike Shanahan for a
game on Saturday. Yeah, it was great to see him

(26:23):
out there, and he was really intent, you know, watching
both sides of what was going on, just sitting right
in the middle and he just flipped back and forth
watching what was going on on each side, which was cool.
So but it was great to listen to to Kyle,
and Kyle's very much like Mike. You know, I need
to watch the film. And Kyle didn't get a chance
to watch what his defense had done against the Broncos offense.
I did ask him, you know, based on what you've

(26:43):
kind of seen, what you think about Bow and he
was very complimentary of Bo. But yeah, he really wouldn't
commit too much on starters, but I don't plan on
seeing very many this Saturday, for sure, So get used
to all those names that we don't know how to pronounce.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I can't wait. That's predominantly going to be your problem. Yes,
it's a tradition like any other fourth quarter, first preseason,
second preseason, third preseason game.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
It is a scary, scary proposition.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
So we're looking forward to it, so no doubt. Appreciate
you very much. Thank you so much for giving us
some time today.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
All right, tell you good guys. Saw Thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Susie Warrigon, she really loved the predominantly thing. Yeah, listen
to enemies. It's part of the broadcast. We run the probos.
It's especially the pregame. She's doing interviews with Troy Franklin,
as she mentioned there, with Mike Shannan. She doesn't across
the field. I guess I look at it in the
framework reference for me with the pregame, because I do.
I do the pregame, and I'm like, oh, you're all

(27:46):
over the pregame, you know, But that's I don't know.
I didn't think that was that weird weird to say,
but fairly was.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
No, it's that's all right, Ryan. You know what, just
remember this, it's the preseason.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
It is the preseason, the preseason for everybody. Yeah, over
to u skis a little bit on that. Yeah, well,
I mean again, the reports out of there was a
good practice and you know, two professional teams. I thought
bo Nicks kind of sum that up as well when
he was asked about how practice went, He's like, Hey,
it's two professional organizations that just really wanted to get
in work, and that's what these practices should be about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I think the nice thing about it from a player's
standpoint is you get to you get to compete and
beat on somebody else. Yeah, you've been in training camp.
Even though practices are different nowadays than they used to be,
there's still, you know, there's some familiarity between teammates, between
offensive and defensive guys, and there will be times after

(28:38):
about the third practice where the defense is very familiar
with all your checks. So you're up there check in
and the defense knows exactly what you're check into, and
vice versa, vice versa. I mean, defensive linemen get familiar
with offensive lineman's calls because they're making calls in the
line of scrimmage before the ball is snapped. That will
pretty much reassure one another in terms of what we're doing,

(29:01):
and then the defense gets used to that. So it's
good too. In this case today practice against San Francisco.
They're going to be a good team. You know, they
have been a really good team, and it just gives
you a different look. It sort of heightens the excitement
because you're going against a different team.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
All the young guys and even even some of the.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Veteran guys get get really stoked to go out there
and put something good on tape.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Reporting live from Santa Clara out to joint practice today,
and of course she'll have some really cool stuff for
the pregame coming up on Saturday night Covers again starts
at three o'clock as we roll into the evening, and
we'll go all the way to midnight that night with
the postgame too, So make sure you're locked in here
on Kaway. By the way, I admit to do this
at the beginning of the show, and I'm I'm very

(29:54):
you know, damn sorry it happened. I am sorry. I
did not give you your flowers as are President w
n B a oh aficionado you went two and oh
last night on.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Another w N, another w W make me I believe
in we there had four or five. So if we've
had four, I'm seven to one. If we've had five,
I'm five. You are You're lucky there. I'm in I'm
in the lead this week.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
You are the lead.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
No, I was looking at weekly wins. I'm in the
I'm in the lead. I'm in the lead. I'm in
the lead for weekly wins too. I'll be darn go figure.
Thank you, Ryan, Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It was one of those is I was. I was
watching last night and I really thought I thought the
home team the Golden Day was going to cover because
it was five and a half. And that's what I
that's the side I went. And you can see I'm
going six for the week. So you can see that
my strategy did not work out so well.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
This I don't know what it is in your world,
but to me, this this is Thursday.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
This is Thursday.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
You've got you know, well, you got a long way
to go this week.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
The thing about it is, I don't really I'm already
done this week, but I just got to avoid the
oh for ten. Yeah, has anybody ever done that we've
never had an over ten.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
We've had this way, You're still in contention.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's like the Rockies, right, we just do not be
the worst. Yeah, do not make your mark historically. I
do not want to be the first zero to ten.
If I'm one to nine, I'm with it, so be it. Listen,
I'm I'm right there with you. I completely understand. It
probably shouldn't have. And you you even advised me because
I chased on Tuesday and you said Ryan too early,

(31:35):
it's too early to chase. But then once you start chasing,
you just got to keep chasing.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
It's true. So last night that's true. I mean I
chased like you were chasing, like you actually had the
w NBA game figured out, Like I actually had a clue.
What the hell could you name one player on either team?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Meet? Neither?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
No, but you've been so good at it somehow.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Hey, that is strictly and truly the blind squirrel theory.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Did you see what we're night? No Raiders preseason football?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
All right?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Well, hold on, hold on, by the way, a serious note, And.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I was going to bring this up earlier. I had
had a chance.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Greg Papa is a guy that I work with Back
when I retired from the NFL, Greg and I were
doing games together on ESPN. We would do West Coast
college football games. Got to know him really well. Great guy,
great broadcaster he's been. He's been the voice in the
San Francisco Giants. He's been the voice of the Golden

(32:38):
State Warriors for a while. He did the Raiders for
I don't know, sixteen years. Then the Raiders moved to
Vegas and he didn't want to He didn't want to
move to Vegas. So he's now the voice of the
forty nine ers. But he's he's not going to be
able to work this year because he he has cancer.
So I reached out to him and I just yeah,

(32:59):
I just wanted to say, man, people send their love
and support and prayers. His son is actually a broadcaster
in the Bay Area. There's a talk show out there.
But you couldn't find you couldn't find a better dude.
So I just wanted to publicly say, hey, man, pulling
for you, and you know what, he will he will

(33:19):
fight that thing and we wish him absolutely.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
All the best.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
As perfectly said, Yeah, a tremendous broadcaster. Yea, my good
really talented and a good guy.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yes, great friend.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, very very cool. Well, the reason we picked to
this game for just a second is because it's Pete
Carroll and Gino Smith with the Raiders playing against the Rocks.
So just for fun, it'd be interesting to talk about
some revenge factors in the preseason. Okay, I don't really

(33:51):
believe that, but I really want to, Like when we
get to this segment two hours from now, be like, boy,
here you go. There is going to Seattle. So there's
no way Pete Carroll and Gino Smith are going to
leave that game with it.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
L Well, then you want to take the Seahawks plus five.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And a half? I mean no, you want to take
the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's right. Okay, this is why I think the line
is there.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
It's juiced.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
It's juice. Okay, for the revenge factor.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
You know what we'll see.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
We will see.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
We do have.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
We have three games tonight, preseason football.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
My favorite sticking the w n B A personally, Well, that's.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Because you're no, this is the thing, Dave. We have
to get away from the WNB because you're you're killing
us here, You're stealing the results. You nobody could keep
up with you.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
I'm listen, I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
If he's a w n B A five nights a week,
you might go perfect the rest of the way.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Well, I do have a double digital lead right in
terms of weekly wins. You just pointing that out to
you in case you missed that.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
All right, when we come back. BONICKX on winning Super Bowls.
It's a conversation that happened today. He was asked about it.
We'll get to the next