08-07-25 KOA Sports Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming in here from the LA Chargers, and earlier today
they're left tackle Rashaun Slater was carted off the field
during practice and it was just announced moments ago that
he suffered a torn pateller tendon and he is out
for the season.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Ooh, that is that is a tough, tough break and
a huge loss for the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I mean, it just it's like the things that you
as a team, like we'd covered the Broncos of course,
and to imagine you're starting left tackle in this case,
gier Bull's being announced he's out for the season, and
what you you don't have anybody on your roster that
is comparable, like even if you've drafted development development guys

(00:45):
or you brought in somebody in a free agency like
we have Matt Parrett here or Alex Polchewski. Right, we
have some guys that can fill in, but nobody can
be your starting offensive tackle at either position like these guys.
And there's a reason why he just signed a four year,
hundred ten million dollar contract last month.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
There's a reason why because he's one of the best.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
In the league. Yeah, that's yeah, I mean you hate
to see it, and I know the Chargers are competing
with Broncos, but do you just you hate to see it.
And that's that's a big time injury too for a
for a big man. Your Shaun Slater is a huge man.
So that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So yeah, that's that's tough. So we'll see what the
Chargers end up doing. But they've already announced it. Just
a little two minutes ago they said they announced the
injury and said he will miss the season and go
on injury reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
So that's gross. Yeah, that's tough, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Five six six nine zeros or Kawiekomsbury Hill. Text and
if you want to interact with the show. Somebody was
saying we talked more at WNBA than Rockies. Okay, well
we talked a lot of Rockies yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I feel free to text this and bring up whatever
you'd like to bring up about the Rockies. Five six
six nine zero and go. I mean, yeah, we talked
a lot about him. I mean, there's not right at
this point, especially coming off of three games sweep at home,
three games in which they gave up sixty five hits.
I believe an all time record, at least in modern

(02:11):
baseball history since I don't know the fourteen hundreds. They
were playing baseball back then. So yeah, there's not a
lot to sit and really try to have a interesting
conversation about with respect to the row. I wish there were.
I love baseball, but I don't love this baseball. No,
it's tough to watch it.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
But I thought we had a constructive conversation yesterday about
hopes and aspirations that there'll be changed and hopefully that
change will lead to something that is a better product
next year. But bet yeah, at this point, you and
I are just pulling for the fact that they're not
gonna be the worst team in baseball history. But even
if they are, if they somehow just even eclipse that
or somehow get clear that bar nobody's going to be

(02:53):
talking about the Rockies in any kind of real competitive
situation for at least the rest of the offseason, right,
I mean, you're gonna have to see it to believe it.
Nobody's going to buy into anything until it's actually out
there on the field next April, that's right, so so
earlier today, because the Super Bowl, of course, is in
Santa Clara this year.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Bodix was asked about.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Super Bowl aspirations sort of brought into Hey, well, Sean Payton,
your head coach. It's out there saying things like this
is one of these seven teams, and you asked you
asked Sean Sean about it as well. We get to
that down here a second, but yeah, he was asked
about it today, about super Bowl aspirations.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
For this team.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
But this is a great answer.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
But it should be your goal too.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
You know, we should all be wanting to go go
win a super Bowl. If we're not trying to win
a super Bowl, why are we here? You know, if
you're not trying to be the best of the best
in your particular area. Ours is the NFL, the National
Football League. You know, I believe that's why you got
there and and play the game. You got there and
play the game to be the best, beat the best.
And you know, I feel good about our team. But

(04:01):
you know that that is not just thrown around. You
know that's it's not easy to do obviously, and we've
got a lot of work to go to go.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Get that goal. Man, we're through the looking glass, aren't we.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I thought he handled it pretty well.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
He nailed it. You know, he stuck a little too
that's right. He stuck the landing on it. It's just
to go from a year ago. And that's all I
kept thinking about, is a year ago we were boring
the well, we're trying to build something here, right, even
after Sean Payton had a couple of lottes. Yeah, we're
trying to build something here. We feel better about our processes.
We like our team, but we're not. If you had

(04:36):
to ask Sean Payton about the Super Bowl last year,
I don't even know what answered you.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think, well, I do. I think you might have
got dismissed, But I think again, when I asked Sean
that he was he was pretty pretty frank about it. Yeah,
and I thought he detailed in terms of really what
he liked, and so I'd rather have him that way.

(05:05):
I'd rather I have a head coach saying you know what,
I think this is a team that has that kind
of capability than a head coach that privately, it wouldn't
do it publicly, but privately is saying, oh my god,
we are not going to win, which, good god, we
might not score in the first half of the season.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Would you rather have Sean one hundred percent? And he
did give you a phenomenal answer. We can get that
here in a second, but he did give you a
phenomenal answer, all the reasons why he wanted that out there.
But that's exactly right. I ain't, for the life of me, Dave,
can't even picture in my head a team. And maybe
that's because in a lot of ways we've been spoiled
because the mantra of the Broncos, even in their worst years,

(05:46):
where we're trying to compete, we're trying to win games. Now,
there have been times where talking heads like me, I
didn't say it, but other people have, Hey, just go
ahead and burn it into the ground. Let's get a
reset in here, let's tank this season. I swear it
wasn't me. I always want to compete, I always want
to win games. I do think that it matters to
build a culture where you're trying to win. I think

(06:06):
that matters. But some organizations don't.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Be it that way.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
And so I've always appreciated the Broncos, even when they
had some interim situations, whether it's coaches or ownership or
any of those kinds of things, They've always tried. It
always seemed like they were trying. I just for the life,
and we can't imagine a team going into the season
publicly or privately saying man, I don't know if we
can win.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
A game, right? Well, and yeah, very again, very realistically,
very few coaches would do that, right But I mean
I can't think of how many coaches in the last
ten to fifteen years. We'll try to keep it relatively current.
Can we remember in preseason, whether talking to the local

(06:51):
media or a national media member or what have you said?
Basically what Sean Payton said this week that he really
likes the team. Again, I'm paraphrasing, not quoting, and this
would be one of six or seven teams that he's
had that at this point of the season he felt

(07:13):
like they were good enough to get to the super Bowl.
I mean, how many coaches we've done this a long time?
I don't know. I can't think of has anybody stepped
out where you're like, wow, really the I mean John Harbaugh,
I don't remember, even Belichick certainly that's the same coach

(07:36):
as Sean m They ever did Kyle Shann I mean,
I don't know so, but I thought about that driving in, Like, man,
what he did is it's not just a typical. It's
it's almost unique in terms of how and he did
it with the reason, but how he's put the pressure
and welcomed the pressure on him, his staff and his team.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, you alluded to it. There was a reason, and
we actually have that audio. You can hear the full
interview with Dave and Coach Peyton on the pregame.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
We'll have that coming up on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
But we did pull that cut because we thought it
was tremendous, So we'll play that for you coming up.
Neck is this first opportunity to talk to us since
Sean Payton made those comments to Yahoo's Sports. Dave had
a chance, as we tape these segments before the pregame,
had a chance to ask Coach Peyton about it. And

(08:35):
of course we have a lot of other questions that
you get a chance to talk to him about, and
that'll be all in the pre game. But this was
such a great answer because you asked him specifically about this,
and I'm really glad you got a chance to And
here's what his rationale for putting those comments was.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
At the very first team meeting, I said, I don't
want to be afraid to talk about these goals. And
the first one is obviously went in the division in
credit Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
They kind of had a foothold on it for quite
a while.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
And so you have these short term goals and it's
always division, and then it's seeding and then it's super Bowl.
But I don't want to be afraid to talk about
like where we are currently, and if you understand that
we have that ability, then ten in. You know, in
other words, this can't be you know, it's difficult, it's hard,

(09:24):
it's and so I think a lot of it had
to do with the leadership that came into our team,
some of the veteran players. We played a lot of
young players a year ago. We're done with the ninety
two million dollar cap. I mean, we had two thirds
of a budget a year ago, and we finally flipped
this roster into the right type of players that we
feel I can win and I can't have higher expectations

(09:48):
than them, for sure, and I just want them to
set their sights in a realistic manner and the look
that starts by playing good football early in the year,
starting fast than we have the last two years. All
of those things, but I didn't want to not talk
about something that I believed realistically can happen.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
What a great answer. What did you think about that?
When you were talking to him? He was absolutely.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Whe the right word be. He was focused on making
his point. And I'll even say something else. When we
were done with the segment and we took the headphones
off and he was getting up to go do whatever
he's going to do, he said, hey, listen, I absolutely

(10:43):
believe that. I believe. He said it twice to me.
I believe that. So I think, as you and I
talked about when we first heard the comment, my idea
was that he may have done that to infuse confidence
into his team. I think that, as he said right there,
that played a part in it. And he says something

(11:05):
about a if you really believe it, you can't be
afraid to talk about it. And it was pretty clear,
you know, especially after the look with the headphones off
and said the look I got when he said and
I absolutely believe that, So, I mean he sold me.
I'm thinking when he left there, I'm thinking, well, damn, okay,

(11:27):
I believe that too. Let's go. Let's go, you know,
let's go, let's let's let's find out. I think he
also mentioned one thing. That's that I think it's critical
for the Broncos. You think about last year. This is
a team that won ten games last year and started
zero and two. That's that's hard to do, right, So
this team won ten of their last fifteen games. It

(11:50):
can be done, but you just don't want to do that.
I remember back in nineteen eighty we lost our first
two games and won eleven of our next fourteen games.
So it could be done, but you dig yourself a hole.
And the fact that he brought it up we got
to start fast, that tells me that they've already started

(12:13):
talking about that with the players. So not to overlook things.
Don't worry about a rookie quarterback coming in here in
his first start. What we can't do is stub our
toe against Tennessee in that home opener. So I'm excited
about it. I think they've got you know, they've got
everybody pointing in the right direction. You just want to
get through this preseason without getting nicked up. You're going

(12:37):
to get nicked a little bit, but hopefully nothing major.
And then you find out, really with that hard work
you put in the offseason what that means.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
It was a really cool exchange, and I appreciate the
context as well, after you guys got done, because that
was the last question and in him saying that to
you as well, And that's the thing. Don't be afraid
to say it if you certainly believe in it, right,
I mean, And the players will know. The players will
know if he's just sort of gassing them up, right,
he's trying to get them fired up for the season.
But in this case, he not only says it to them,
he goes out there and puts it in publication. It'd

(13:09):
be one thing if they were saying this behind closed doors,
which again I think a lot of teams say a
lot of things behind closed doors, right yeah, But to
say behind closed doors, go out there and then put
this out there in publication, you know you're going to
be asked about it. You know, your quarterback, your players
are all going to.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Be asked about it.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Heck, I asked Mike mcglinche about it when he was
on the air with us a couple of days ago.
And they're all now surrounded by it because why can't
it be a conversation that they should be aspiring to, Right,
But once again, I think, yeah, you know you said
something a little bit earlier, like we don't hear this
from other coaches. I want to dive into that for

(13:44):
just a moment. On the other side, why we don't
hear from other coaches.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
We'll get to that next. Going to be playing any
of you fantasy players out there that had Lamar Jackson
penciled in tonight?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
No, I doubt that. But for Aandian Appolis.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Imagine they're gonna play boltser quarterbacks, right, I mean, you
have to gotta get reps and these guys.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Now, the word out of Indianapolis is that Anthony Richardson.
Richardson has made a move like is pushing oh Daniel Jones? Really?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes, Well that's see for the colquitter.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Ryan, You've learned so many things.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
You know today.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I just avoided it except for the Broncos stuff because
I was trying to piece together the show without without
actually watching practice, just piecing it together from raised reports.
But well, that would that would be good news for
the Colts, like that would be the ideal, not good
for the Broncos because I think Anthony Richardson is a
better quarterback because they're gonna play them week two.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't know I don't know. I don't know if
i'd agree with that, and I'm not a Daniel Jones guy.
I think Daniel Jones, I don't know why i'd even
say this, would be less likely to make game costing mistakes. Now,
there are giant fans, probably ten of them, driving around
Denver here that live here. And it's good to your

(15:00):
part because I think it's a better place to live
what we have here as opposed to somewhere back there.
But they're saying, they're screaming as they try to rip
their steering wheel completely off the column. What are you
out of your mind? Did you not watch Daniel Jones
like his last year when he was in New York.
So I'm not going to retract it, but I did
as soon as I left my mouth think, Eh, maybe not,

(15:25):
But I think at this stage of his career he'd
be less likely. He couldn't make the explosive plays than
Anthony Richardson makes, but I think he'd be less likely
to make a key mistake too, and.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
It would be more of a keeping it on the rails,
which is why I think Daniel Jones likely for the
remainder of his career, is going to be in that
higher end backup conversation, right, a guy that, hey, we
have been Daniel Jones here like Andy Dalton was for
so many years, or case Keenum. I said, I don't know,
I don't want to push this too far. At Sam Darnold.

(15:59):
Maybe in that range of quarterbacks, it's like, hey, we
got this guy. If things don't, you know, work out,
well we're not going to completely fall off the map
with him.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
But Anthony Richardson, I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Guess you know last year, certainly the second half of
that game against the Broncos was a disaster, and he
thinly da was. But the first half, boy, they had
the until until Jonathan Taylor fumbled that ball the goal line.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
They had the Broncos on their heels.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
They really did. Yeah, I mean that changed, That changed
the entire game. It did. That's it. I mean they
played the Colts the second week of the season back there.
That's I think that's a little more difficult than people think.
I really do. I mean, historically Indianapolis has been a
tough place to play because of the dome and the sound.

(16:47):
So we'll see that's not gave me.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I think a lot of Broncos fans penciling into and
oh to start the season. We'll see, we'll sort of see,
but I don't know this is this game is going
to tell us anything more specifically about that game coming up?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
We do, but looking forward too.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'll being back before we get to this conversation we
want to get to. On BONEX, you asked a question
of why we don't hear more coaches talk openly about
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I my guess would be.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, I said, can you think of one of the
last ten to fifteen years?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
That's right, that's right, that's what you said.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So my guess would be that you're either in the
super Bowl conversation and it's already assumed.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Right, if you're Harbaugh, if you're Andy Reid, you're being.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Way too practical in this. Probably you're being way too reasonable.
I've asked you to kind of step out of your
comfort zone with your flannel shirt on it. By the way,
was it like ninety degrees wherever you live today? Or
did you fly in from Alberta.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You'll get me to say this one time and one
time only. Yeah, I made a mistake, very flannel pole.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Oh my god, really.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I I regretted my decision to wear flannel today because
I first.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Says you could feel the sweat drops rolling down your sides.
I went, I.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Told you, I walked to the grocery store to get
it's it's like a mile.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, okay, little house in the prairie kind of moment.
Why would you walk to the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
We'll save some gas and I'm just ask to get
out there and get specialized.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Are you seriously do you seriously walk to the grocery
store to say some gas?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah? Yeah, I had the time. I plug it here,
I plug it a podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I called my mom. I played a podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And what do you do at the bags? Do you
rint one of their little cars and pushed back?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Just carry the my shoulders and I'm walking back?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
How many bags? Like?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well just too this time? But it's a focus.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, crip. What was in the bags? What did you
go to the grocery store to buy that you walked
to the grocery store? Well?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Today today I needed to get cream cheese for my
oldest daughter.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
She wanted to make bagels. Okay, right, reasonable request.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
And the youngest one of Spaghettio's teenager. They're eating, they're
eating they're eating everything in my house. So I bought
a bunch of Kansas spaghettios, and I bought some cheese,
and I bought some ice cream, and I don't know,
just talk some odds and.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Girl Grant, can we if you don't mind, can we
call Can we find out what grocery store? And can
we call there and see if they have any video
of the homeless man wearing a flannel shirt walking in
who bought the twelve cans of spaghettios and some cream cheese.

(19:25):
There's gotta be video on this. Let's get Fox thirty one.
I mean, they don't have to lead off the newscast
with it. But somewhere in there, you know, when they
when they when the anchors look at the camera and say,
our next story, we are asking the public's health help.
Excuse me? Have has anyone seen this man? And then

(19:47):
here you are with your flannel shirt, with your two
bags of spaghettios and cream cheese.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, now that you've said it this way, it does
sound kind of ridiculous, kind of ridiculously, you.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Know, I guess I would better understand. I mean, when
daughters asked, listen, Dad's I've got a daughter. And when
she asks, that's just the way it is, I go, yeah, right,
But I would better understand if you just hopped into
your car, which is paid for, and dro How far
was this? It's a mile. It just walked a friggin

(20:19):
mile in a flannel shirt in ninety four degree weather
to buy spaghetti o's and cream cheese. You tell me
that is not a tad bit weird, Well, the flannel
part of it.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I'm minty.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
That was a mistake. I'm giving you that. I'm telling you.
I as soon as I got outside, I was like, boy,
it is a lot hotter than I thought it was.
And so I but I, but is.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
It not in August where you are anyway?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
And I didn't know how big a mistake I was
making it until I was coming on word.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I don't know why I find this so And sweat
was pouring down my face, incredulous, how bad it was?
Did you wear long pants?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yes? These pants?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Do you never wear shorts?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
I don't wear shorts.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm not shorts. Why is there a reason do you have?
Do you have a deformed leg of some sort? Do
you have to No? I just why don't you wear shorts?
I don't tell the truth. I don't like shorts, okay,
but why you have to somewhere in the recesses of
your little brain, there has to be a reason why.
There's a little there's a little bird that knows the reason.

(21:19):
Let him step out, Let him step to the forefront,
and just with pride, spin it out of his beak.
And why don't you wear shorts?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
That's not a good reason.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
What is it? What's the reason?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm too lazy to put sunscreen on my legs and
I don't want to deal with it, so I just
wear pants.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's to say a.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Lot of the time, it's the same thing with the
long sleeved shirt because I'm like, well, no, I don't
have to put sunscreen on my arms either, so I'm
just gonna It's not a laziness. But there's a texture
thing too. I like I like pants, I do. I
just like pants.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I like pants too. But it's it's like in the
dog days of summer, it's ninety How warm was it today?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Millennial Grant ninety eight?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I think ninety eight. If you're not, I mean, if
you're ever gonna wear shorts, it would be today.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
You're you're preaching to the choir in Yeah, even.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Though I want to call the story because I think
I think they probably when they saw you walk in
and then they followed you out of the parking lot.
What kind of car do you get in? Well, you
didn't get in a car. He just just kept walking
down the road with the two bags of Spaghettio's and
cream cheese, throwing over his shoulder, wearing a flannel shirt
and long pants. It just as ridiculous, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
In my head, yeah, until I said it out loud, and.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Now I feel Yeah, I feel it for you. Yeah,
an idiot, what a loser.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I'm giving it to you.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
The flannels saying I'm just worried about you. I mean
I'm not I'm gonna fall.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm gonna fall sense of mind, a state of mind
because we have football back.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's why I am where I'm at, because I am
ready for a fall to be here.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
All right.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
We have pumpkins, spice latte coming out here in a
couple of weeks. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'll try to go with that.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
The kids were really happy when I came home.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
That was good. Well you know why, But I was
very happy that you survived. You know, they talked about
you as you walked out. Make sure is it getting
in the car?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
No, Dad, you get some water before you.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, sit down and give you a bottle of water. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I collapsed when I came back. That's exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, I'm sure. You know when I texted you, you
text me an hour later and said, you're just taking
a nap. Now I know why. Yeah, I had too.
There we go, had too.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, so very quickly on this thing that I wanted
to follow up with, has it been reasonable?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
The NFL is in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
There are the teams that are quote unquote in contention
that it's already assumed, like you're in your window, Like
you wouldn't need to hear John Harbaugh talk about, yes,
the super Bowl because if you're.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
The Ravens, that that's that's the mindset.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Same thing with Sean McDermott or Andy Reid, Sean, I mean,
even Sean McVay. Even though Matthew Stafford's doing with the
back injury. I think those guys that are kind of
in that mix every single year, they don't need to
talk about it. We know they know that's the expectation
if you're the have nots, like you're the Tennessee Titans
when they were asked about Super Bowl a couple of

(24:30):
weeks ago, and they're like, ah, well.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, the GM and and that wasn't the coach. That
wasn't it was the team.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And the coach, and they were both asked.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
They looked at each other and said, well, we're bil
we're building something. Yes, so you're you're Those are two
ends of the spectrum and in the middle. There's only
a few teams that are kind of in the middle,
and the Broncos are one of those teams, the teams.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
That are kind of on the come up.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
And so you you are in this like not a limbo,
but you're in this. Hey, our floor is much higher
than the teams that or have nots, but we're maybe
not seeing quite at the every year as a contender
level just yet. So I think the reason why Sean
Payton can say these kinds of things is because he's
of a few teams that are in that mix right

(25:12):
now that feel as though.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
We're all right, let me play along and for a
second assume and I think I do that. I agree
with your assertion. What are the teams would be in
that window other than Denver. That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Let me let me pull up the standings from last year.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
I think that will help me with this conversation.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
All right, So I mean, what of the teams would be.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Okay, starting off the top, I think, you know, as
a look at the AFC East, Miami probably thinks they
should be in that range.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I right, Miami. Well, I think Miami is just trying
to survive.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Maybe they are, maybe they are, but at least two
years ago they were in the playoffs. They lost to
Kansas City, right, but they were one of the best
offenses in the league. They thought they should be in
that conversation. I agree where the Steelers. The Steelers probably
they're on the like the lower tier of teams that
think they should be there every year, right because they
make the playoffs every year.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
They just don't win anything.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, let's hear the Chargers probably are one of those teams.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
All right. So the Chargers, I would say, more so
than the Steelers and the Dolphins. Okay, So what would
would we find it completely curious if Jim Harbaugh this weekend, well,
especially after the Rashawn Slater injury, but maybe before that

(26:34):
injury had come out and said, hey, you know what,
I'd like this team, And I think this is one
of just a couple in my NFL career that I
actually thought, in training him, this team can get to
the super Bowl. Now, I think I think people would
have been less sort of surprised if that statement to
come from Harball because I think nationally speaking, and I

(26:56):
think they're wrong, but I think nationally speaking, NFL people
look and say, yeah, I think the I think the
Chargers probably would have a better chance than the Broncos.
They put more stock in where the Chargers are. Chargers
did beat the Broncos twice last year. I understand that,
but I think they would I think they would not
be as like surprised if Harbaugh said it, because I

(27:20):
think the general consensus nationally is that the Chargers may
be the team that has the best chance to beat
the Chiefs this year in the AFC West, not the Broncos.
I disagree. I think the Broncos have the best chance,
and I think because of the defense, I would say
that I think the Broncos defense is better than the
Chargers defense, and I think they played better against Kansas City,

(27:42):
But all right, who any other teams?

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, I was gonna ask you what you think about
the NFC North because I mean, you know, Green Bay
would kind of be I guess sort of in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, green Bay would be a good. Yeah team, They
they feel like that.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I mean, in Minnesota and Dallas or Detroit last year
were both really really good. They probably think that they
should be on the higher end of that conversation.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
But they I think they're in there.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Tampa Bay strikes me as a team that's right there,
that thinks that, hey, we have a really good defense,
we have some offensive players. We added a booka in
the I mean, they think they probably should be talked
about more seriously as a super Bowl contender.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
And then you know, I guess you get to you know,
the Rams and the forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I guess in that kind of mix where they think
they should be discussed too. But I guess the ultimate
point of it is is you're either already in it,
so there's no reason to talk about it, because if
you're gonna even asked about it, it's like, yeah, but
that's what we are. We have Lamar Jackson, we have
Josh Allen, we have Patrick Mahomes, we should we have
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
We have to be in that range.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
We have to be.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And then there's the other teams that are like, well, yeah,
let's see if we can get to five hundred in
that range and then see if we can maybe squeak
out a couple and sneak into the playoffs and be dangerous.
And that's that's kind of where the Broncos are. But
I think they think they're a little higher than that
because they made it.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, no, I would, I would say, I'd say that's
that's true.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Boy, the five the tax line's killed me.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, they're worried about you. They're killing you because they
have genuine concern about I think, in this case, your
mental state. I think they're a little concerned that you
would subject yourself to the distinct possibility of heat exhaustion,
heat stroke walking two.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Miles two miles.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
In ninety eight degree weather for spaghettios and cream cheese.
When you have a car, when you have a car
in your do you have a driveway at your house,
You have a car in your driveway, and presumably it's functional.
You could have just got in the car, but let

(29:47):
me move on.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
There's a lot of questions about what condition the ice
cream is in. As far as I.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Always fine, I thought it was well.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I also got ice cream cream cheese. Oh you bought
ice cream? Yeah, oh I bought ice cream as well.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, walked a mile of ninety four it was ice cream.
Somebody's like, no, it's two miles. You had to go back.
That's a good point. Yeah, I was a mile there,
a mile back. It was too Somebody's like, you said
you said to save gas. Lol, you did say that
came out of your pod. Yeah, the save gas.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, I mean I walk every morning. I just didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I didn't walk today because the wife had stuff going on.
So this was my excuse to go for a walk.
And like I said, I call my mom. Went for
a walk, called my mom, and then I on the
way back.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Does your phone not work? Can't you call your mom
from your house? Does your wife allow that?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
She does allow that.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
It just it felt like it all lined up in
my head, like, hey, I'm gonna go talk to my mom.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I'll go for a walk.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I would submit to you, submit to you that. I'm
not even sure how many people are listening to the show,
hopefully thousands. I would submit to you that less than
one percent of our entire audience, if given the opportunity
to do what you did today, would do it. You
could get out under under right. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I like I like living close to things that I
can walk to, Like we when we moved to Denver
from Fort Collins. We live downtown, and I love that
because I love being able to walk to things. I
don't if I don't have to drive, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I like that too. But if you live, if you
live downtown, you know you're within walking distance to a
nice restaurant or whatever. And it's a nice you know,
even summer night when maybe the sun down or it's
like I don't know, May when it's not ninety eight degrees,
or maybe I'm not going to wear flannel with long

(31:44):
John's on. So no, I think you make an excellent point, Ryan, But.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
The fact that it was ninety six ninety eight degrees
and I.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's it's problematic for a reasonable person listening to the
show to sort of get with exactly what must have
been in your mind. But I'm just glad you're here.
You don't appear to be suffering from heatstroke. I thought
you were flushed when I first got here.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I'm flushed right now.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, I'm very flushed right now. So well, yeah, so
glad to see you.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
The ice cream. Ice cream is fine, Thank you, guys.
Everyone's really worried about the ice cream. Yeah, I'm almost like.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
It was fine.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
We're good.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
In fact, I brought insulated bags for that reason. I
didn't you guys act like I just woke up yesterday.
I brought insulated bags so I could put the cold
stuff together.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
It kept it all cold together, and it was fine.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
That is problem solving at its highest level.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Somebody said, could have been you've got Vin Mow you guess, buddy, No.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's not like that.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Listen, we make cracks about roworking your radio. It's not
that dire. Yeah, it's it's close, but.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
You know we do have or Ryan has enough pride
that he'll decline the offer.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Did you used to run in a sauna suit in
Las Vegas?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I did? Who wrote that?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Somebody texted that in says, well.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
But yeah, okay, explain that. I'm not saying I'm the
smartest guy in the world leader, But I used to.
I used to before i'd head off to training camp.
I used to think it was a good idea to
put my body through as hard of like two week
period of time at altitude or whatever. But I happened

(33:32):
to do this in Vegas. So I had I had
a ritual where I'd wear sweats, like hoodie and sweats,
go for a long run in the middle of the day.
Not very smart, not very smart. So I'm in Vegas
and I'm thinking, all right, I'm going to go out
tomorrow at noon and we and this was like in July,

(33:53):
so we know how hot it was. I had a
rubber top on which, you know, the elastic around your
wrist and the elastic around the base of your neck,
and sweats. So I mean, I think about the good God,
what are you just completely just brain dead? I could
have been. I did the run, I came back and

(34:14):
walked into the lobby of the hotel. I'm a little lightheaded,
which should be the first, you know idea that what
you did was not very sound. And I've been over
and I loosened the elastic you know, on each wrist,
and water just poured out all over the floor and
all these people, you know that had just gambled and won,
or were just going to go see I don't know,

(34:37):
Wayne Newton perform at the Tropicana. We're walking out because
they wanted to get an early seat, and dinner for
them started at four o'clock, so they were walking out
at that point, and I'm sure they looked at me
and went eh. So I went upstairs and honestly, I
had to lay down on the floor and I thought,
I wonder if I'd just killed myself. Never did it again.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I can't imagine. Well, I can see what you were thinking.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, I mean I was trying. I was trying. You know,
training camp you suffer, so if you're not ready physically
to suffer, that was my mindset. I had to run
at the hottest part of the day and stress my body,
which now is just you think about it, it's just stupid,
but that was my mindset at the time.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I can't imagine how bad you smelled, well, like tiger pists.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I might have, big al, I might have smelled like
tiger pists. At that point, I was so I was
so dizzy and lightheaded. I didn't care if I smelled
like tiger pists. I could have I could have I
could have done anything walking through the floor of that casino.
I could have collapsed. I could have run over and

(35:50):
grabbed chips and tried to run. I could have done
I was just almost delusional. I mean, I'm just stupid
to do that. Stupid. And by the way, don't try
this at home for any of you, kid, do not
do that. Very important PSA, not smart.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
All right, we'll come back.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
We played a cup from Sean Payton earlier, who spoke
with you for the pregame. We also have a cup
for Bonix. Really cool stuff about his offseason improvements. You
want to hear this coming up next