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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nick Ferguson in studio wearing another hat that has nothing
to do with Denver was Nick.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
No matter how many times you do that, that's not
going to change anything.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
But you at least went to this college. I mean
you at least went to Georgia Tech. I mean that
that makes a little more sense.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The other team I actually played for for two seasons,
So it's not like I'm wearing a CSU Rams hat
and I didn't attend the school.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That would be entirely different. Well, then you're rep in
the local community here, that's what that is.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, I mean I wrapped the local community any and
everywhere I go. So me choosing to wear a different hat,
God forbid I wear a different hat, then so be it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But but I know, you know, I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
This is you doing the Ryan Evers thing, and I'm
immune to it.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
You did a great job coordinating your outfit today.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
As I always do.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Thank you for you as well. You look good. Listen,
I'm going right to practice. I've been at the school,
going back to the school, so it just is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know what I have to say this though, You know,
when when Dave comes in like today, like today, he
looks like he's dressed to play Wimbledon with his outfit,
you know, Dick, Yeah, Wimbledon with.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
All white short shorts and white oh yeah, because of
the white long sleep I wear the long.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Sleeves because it's it's my way, which is really kind
of stupid, my way of like, I wear the long
sleeves every summer workout because the kids are out there working.
I can't really do the workouts they're doing anymore, so
I want to. I want to stress myself out as
much as I can, so I wear long sleeve. Plus,
(01:36):
you don't get some burned that way. There, you know
what I'm saying. So yeah, so I just I just
do that during practice. So but you guys, now, you
you guys need to you guys need to stop and
love each other a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Wait, you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Right, you need you need to stop being argumentative until
Nick how much he means to you?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, exactly, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I can't promise I'll stop being argumentative, but I do
love you.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Okay, that's the start. That sounds like that sounds like
a backhand compliment and charging three hundred an hour. Yeah,
I've got a good comment that I can work with.
And we continue to build the relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh boy, well, I've all.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Sorts of fun over the next three hours. We got
Rockies baseball. They're on a heater before we get to
the Broncos, and we got a lot of Broncos conversation.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
But I'm so happy, Studio, you kidnot so thrilled, Jorge,
Studio dick as the Rockies are on an absolute heater.
Three straight wins, three straight series, how about them?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Hey, that's that's great.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I've always pushed for the Rockies to win more games
and lose games.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Now, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Last week when we did to pick them, there was
that was a time where you did not choose them.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, they'll sit here and.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Act as though you know you got the on your
chess and on.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Your chest stands for hope. No, no, no, no no, let's
not food on myself.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Let's not kid ourselves as well. But you know what,
congratulations to the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Keep it up.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm a two straight series but won five of the
last six.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
That's great stretch of the season on you know, you
know what. And I thought about this when I when
I saw that today. So I'm just gonna say this
not to not to rain on your parade, but I
want him to win. Here's the deal. You can't you
(03:24):
you can if you're Dick Monford. My suggestion would be
you do not get lulled in to like a false
sense of hey, wait a minute, okay, look how we
finished the season. We you know, at since August first,
until the season is over, we played at a you know,
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the fifth best clip winning percentage wise in the National League.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
To me, that is just that is false. Hope, you
are what you have been all season.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm happy they're playing better and finding a way to
win some games, and thank goodness for Hunter Goodman. But
you can't get lulled into saying and Dick, I think
at times is prone to do this where you look
and say, okay, look how we finished. I mean I
might not have to make all these changes you have
to finish for seventy wins day.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I mean, I'll kiss your ass in the middle of
downtown Denver Broadway for that Broadway and spear with red,
red frigging lipstick on my powder clips. If they win
seventy games you talking about you mean this year?
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I'm just say, mathematically speaking, how many they got now?
Speaker 6 (04:41):
They have thirty five.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They're thirty five and eighty.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Do you think they can win thirty five games?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Left?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
How many they got left?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well? Again my math?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Oh boy, we are okay, we've already that's why your
wife does the check register. So how many games they play?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They play one hundred and twenty four?
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Oh k and you think your math is how much? Okay,
so you're one thirty nine.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You can't quite get seventy wins?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
So they have thirty five wins now, yeah? And they
played one thirty four and one twenty four one twenty
four all right, so there's one sixty two thirty Yes,
that's twenty eight. Wouldn't that be twenty eight rand?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
One thirty four four twenty four thirty eight so that
you could Okay, that's my bet stands what happens in
an they don't win seventy? Now, I don't want you
kissing my asses.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It look like I have you are? Are we talking
about the shiny lipstick or the met to pick?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Because oh but you gets pick? Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
So Ryan, right now, you.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Know if you you picked that that yellow shiny stuff,
I'll put that on.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That I'm gonna take the bet.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
What I'll lose nothing, So let me tell you that,
I promise you that much.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know if the dignity thing.
I think all the dignity is out the window at
that points for everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
But no, they're not going to get to seventy wins.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But Ryan, I see what you're doing here. You're the
neighborhood hope dealer. That's what you are, a hope dealer.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It is it is definitely is.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Well, when they sweep the Dodgers livellas, when they sweep
the Dodgers over the next four you want to.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Put them on that, well, of course not.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Why would I put something on that the Dodgers brings?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, to beat the Diamondbacks in a series, you know,
you know, edge them out a team that's one notch
above you that they're eleven.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Games, come back and win those games, I get it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But to do it against a team like the Dodgers,
now we're talking, But I think if that would have.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Happened, Dave's narrative comes into play. It's a false narrative, right,
and you sell them more hope.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was just responding to Dave's point about how maybe
Dick Marfort might see some hope here in these final
Here you go a game.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I mean, God, bless America, here you go, Here you go,
little Montfort, I mean seriously.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And then he might he might say something to the fact,
you know a couple of additions to this team.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And yeah, I mean right, I said, listen, I mean
I like Dick. I'm not sure Dick Dick likes me
or us here, but I do like Dick.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I've known him.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I don't know him well, but I've known him enough
to say that I that I like the guy. I
just I just don't want to see him fall into
the trap because they're playing better baseball.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
And I mean, any way you.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Look at it, almost assuredly, this will be the third
straight year they've lost one hundred games. What let me
just ask you this, Ryan Montfort, in what other sports?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Let's just say, what would be comparable?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
How many games in football would be comparable to losing
a hundred games in base How many games would you
have to lose?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I probably of one sixty two. I'm going to help
you through this.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
What one hundred is? I don't know what the ratio
would that be.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
It's about it it's about sixty percent, I think. Okay,
all right, so around so you're losing around sixty percent.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
So in seventeen games I'm losing.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
That would be almost eleven games, right between ten and
eleven if my math is right. So, how many NFL
franchises if they had back to back to back, oh
you fired seasons of losing between ten and eleven games
in those three seasons.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Is there somebody's getting fired?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The NFL functions at a different level of expectation, of expectation.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
And I know baseball, I know, I love baseball.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I know it's a different or the the you know,
the I think the obviously, the pace is different, the
mentality of the players different, and I get that. And
you couldn't have a You couldn't if you had a
football player's mentality trying to play baseball for one hundred
and sixty two games. I mean he would, he would
lose his mind and probably a few around him too.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Because the Rockies get to fifty, how.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Do you how do you feel like today at thirty
five fifteen more on their next thirty eight?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Well, yeah, the way they're where they're playing now would
that change your mind. So if they finish one fifty
excuse me, if they finish fifty.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Wins and one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Losses, your first thought is, here's here's how well I
know you. I would submit your honor, your honor ferguson
that plaintiff. Ryan's thought would be, well, I mean, look
how they finished.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
They finished on an upswing. Because you're a positive person
and I am sometimes delusional, yeah, and a little communistic.
But you say they finished on an upswing, So why
make the changes? Are you advocating for them to make
no change?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You know, loving the color red has nothing to do
with Remember I told you about the Tito you did?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, it was only three people alive in our audience
that knew who the al Tito was, and one of
them thought it was Jermaine's brother.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I say, it depends on where those wins come from.
And I think that's that's true about any sport. Well,
it's NFL, but baseball doesn't really matter. It's the same
conversation we had historically when the Broncos were the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Like a couple of times, are you saying like that?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, I will ask you a question I'm just saying,
like that you finished on an upswing, say you win
three every last four in the final month in football, right, Well,
people are like, gosh, you know.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
To get the six wins.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Some people will look at it as a hope.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Yes, you know, the coach's family, that's what we'll look
at it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Fair enough for the Rockies, Yeah, if they struggle over
half of September and then just have a flourish of
ten wins at the end, I don't know if that
necessarily changes.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Not to think what you're saying, if they go fifty
and one twelve, your advocate, I'm asking you're advocating no changes.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I am advocating such a good question, because fifty would
be clearing the mark that we set.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
You turn on your mic.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You again, stop stalling.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
What you're doing is waiting for traffic.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yes, exactly, Yes, you're trying to n.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
He's learned on this show. If you wait long enough,
damn sure commercial coming. Yeah you know that for sure,
got to go to commercials. That's why he's saying, as
that's right, seven more minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know I could fillibuster this thing. No, I would
still advocate for changes, I really would. I would still
advocate for changes, but as we have noted many many times,
the Rockies may not at fifty at fifty ways that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Therein lies the biggest conundrum.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I mean, you made changes inside the front office, moving
people around, you know, promoting from within. But at some
point you have to say, well, it's not about the ballpark.
And I know how much you and so many other
Rockies fans love the ballpark, love the cabanas and all
of those things, but at the end of the day,
it's about winning. Fans want to be associated with a
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winner when the Rockies came here.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Because I don't. I don't give two niggas about the
part of deck I want to win. I want to
know what what what Nichols? I don't give two nicholas.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I thought for certain were fixing the go on serious radio.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Oh my bad, listen, I got big.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Ears, you know, And man, I need the Q tip,
the one on the right there, my bad. But you
know what, judging from Ryan's face, he needs a Q tip.
That's why two Nicholas.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yes, you know, okay, yes about well fair enough, Yes
you don't like fun and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's Wait, that's not fun. What we're seeing from the
Rockies isn't fun. Winning fifty games isn't fun. Once again,
have you seen the party tech, Dude, it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I've seen it. Okay, right, but from afar you up there?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, no, go up there.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Have yourself. Well, you like apple juice.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So have yourself in the apple juice and take in
the sights of our beautiful stack.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So if I were to do that, yes, my overall
viewpoint would be changed.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You'd come back into the studio change man. Heck, you
might actually wear Broncos and Rockies gear five six six
nine zeros or kwakwas bird el text line. We got
to talk about this Broncos game. Now, some really cool moments,
especially offense.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I'm sure you saw the stat five hundred and sixty
what was the final?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Sixty seven?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Five sixty seven to one hundred and sixty three or whatever?
Yards total yards. I don't know how this up here. Oh,
Seedon won thirty five, That's what it was. So I say,
on the outset, even though you didn't see a ton
of starters, you saw players that are going to play
this year. We saw that big play from Evan Ingram,
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Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You saw Adam Tram and all those guys out there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
People will I think, will shift this thing because it's
a preseason game with backups and secondary players. But at
the same time, I saw playmakers out there doing things
that I think can translate or I hope can translate
into the regular season.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I think that's fair. I really do.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I'm gonna say the same thing that I said about
the first team Broncos offense after the preseason opener, because
there were plenty of people that were saying, Holy cow,
what are they doing?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I mean, they couldn't even get out of their own way.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I mean, I think the offense played really well in
the preseason game number two, which Aristiadham, then you mentioned
Evan Ingram and Pat Bryant, was good for for seventy
I think. But the reality of it is they're playing
against second and third team.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Guys, and while some of those guys will be on
Arizona's roster, they're gonna be a whole bunch of them
that aren't. So I just try to balance out the
good and the bad in preseason. But I liked what
I saw.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I thought Jared Stidham, to me, has proven that, Hey,
if something should happen to bow and you hope that
that's not the case. I mean, Stidy didn't throw a
pass last year in the regular season. Odds odds would
tell us that that is probably not going to happen
two years in a row. So do you feel comfortable
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that you've got a veteran like Jared Stidham that can
drive the bus that you don't have to, you know,
just turn around and kind of hand it off, that
you don't have to really condense the play sheet that
you've work eighty hours on during the course of that week.
If you're Sean Payton, you don't have to. You don't
have to condense it.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
You can.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
There's still things you can do. So yeah, I think
that was encouraging encourage for me. After the game during.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Broncos react and I don't know if this is just
phantom run a muck. Certainly Twitter does this sometimes too.
There was the do we have a quarterback controversy with
Jared Sidham, and then the other swing of the other
side is should we be marketing and possibly trading Jared
Sidham After these two performances, Nick.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's a hell no to both of those and to
those fans who either texted that in.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Or tweeted that I didn't listen. People sometimes accused me
of driving those kinds of buses.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
This was not me.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I tried to dampen them down like Ben all Bright
with the wet blankets. I tried to tell everybody, this
is not happening. That is not a thing. But boyle boy,
I was hit up multiple times like, hey, no, Jared
sidem was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Well, here's what it proves.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Jared Stiddam is in his third season with the Denver Broncos,
and he is quite familiar as a Vedoin quarterback with.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Being in this position. He was in this position in
New England. He was in this position before under Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Right, this has kind of been where Jared Stidham has
basically leaved lived. So is he a starting quarterback in
this league. No, and there's nothing wrong with that. He
is an adequate backup because a lot of teams had
their number one, but they don't have a reliable number two.
So if you're Jared Stidam, you're living.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Your best life in the Broncos uniform.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You play through the preseason, you build up expectations, you
making a boatload of money to be a backup quarterback
in just in case.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They need you.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You come in, the expectations are all ready low for you, right,
so you can break through the glass. Cyling so great
for him, great hitting his targets, great keeping the offense
on rhythm. But once again, you can miss me with
that talk about quarterback controversy. Ain't know, damn quarterback controversy.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Do you feel the same way?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yes, thank you? Yeah, I mean I think grateful.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I think that there's no quarterback controversy at all. But
every single team, I can promise you this, thirty two teams,
not every single team feels really confident about their backup.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
They'll they'll all say different.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
But I mean, I think Jared Stidham has proven he
sort of fits into this offense. And now you just
hope he doesn't play. That's that's exactly righty.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
But you hope he didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You hope next year, You hope this season is just
like last season in terms of how many snaps he took.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And you would trade Jared Sidham, right, I would absolutely
not trade Jared Didham.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I mean, what are you trade him for I guess
after I answer, what what do you? What are you
trying to entice me with?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I mean I can't even looks like, how about a
third round pick?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
What team?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
No, I don't think I would what team?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, Cleveland brown.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Cleveland Browns are still collecting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean, Cleveland Browns will be fine with their quarterback situation.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Okay, are you sure about that?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
The same thing you said when they signed to Sean Watson.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
No, it's not we got to take.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Great to take I hear this, David.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I are prepared for this moment. We knew you would
say that. Okay, No, I think I did.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Well. Damn, they finally got a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The Browns in a good spot right now. I mean
the guy who's on a hot seat and hi guy,
look it out. That's can you Pickett?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I ain't no doubt about that, especially with Joe Flacco
officially being named the Star today. All right, we're off
early here on a Monday five six six nine zeros
or ka common spriate health text line. There was one
specific play that I thought was amazing, and it wasn't
just because of what the outcome was was what happened
during it. We'll get to that next.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
During the break, Nick had had a I'm not sure
what site it was, but it was it had that
yellow lipstick.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah, just in case.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
There's a lot of textures here on the KWA Common
Spirit Health text line saying that they need Q tips
as well because they thought you said something else.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Really yeah, interesting, Yeah you saw big My eyes were
the idea and like most of.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That, that's how Ryan's face.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let's take a moment for those heels.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Just sit back for a second and be like, yeah,
I didn't see you push away from Migway.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yes, right, Like, but I looked right at you.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
I'm like, yeah, so what a good time night, Ca'm
we cleaned it up.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Though, well, yes we cleaned up.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, yes, Nichols, Nickels, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
This is nickelback, like, yes, god, what you said? You know?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Sor right, We're not gonna go down that revel We're good.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
There was a play. There was a play in the game.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
That I thought was spectacular.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It was a spectacular play because it was fifty eight
yard catch and run by Evan Ingram, But the thing
that was most impressive to me was actually the blocking
that happened to spring the fifty eight yard play.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Here's what it sounded like on Saturday Nights boots too.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
He is right wide open, throws the ball they just caught.
This has happened. Ingram down the east sideline and the
big tight end is loose.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He's out of the forty five steps to tackle.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Ingram still roll lean inside the Cardinals forty There's the
free agent acquisition that we've been talking about and the
speed for a tight end.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Will Johnson has to make a touchdown saving tackle as
Evan Ingram catches a boot and rumbles for a gain
of fifty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Boy, that certainly quieted a lot of the people out
there that were panicking after game one of the preseason,
where at Evan Ingram wasn't even targeted one time and
then he comes out and has that fifty eight yarder.
But Dave, the thing that it jumped out to me
is I got to watch it again today. Was the
blocking from Troy Franklin and Pat Bryant on the play.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean Franklin made a good I mean it
wasn't a devastating block, but he took an angle and
just got his body in front of a defender. Actually
it was smart because if you do try to declete
that guy from that angle, I think there's a chance
you're gonna get called for blocking the back. So all
you have to do is nudge him, put your hand,
you know, they teach you put your hands in the
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air and just use your body. All you have to
do is slow him down one stride, which Franklin was.
Franklin did and then Pat Bryant was trying to run
somebody in a Cardinals uniform like to the airport, like
without four wheels. He was blocking him all the way
into the sideline, which I can tell you he's going
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to get a lot of kudos for effort and everything
else from I would think from that coaching staff when
they watched that film.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And it wasn't just the one guy either.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
He ended up affecting several guys doing that block.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But the reason why, as a coach, you're going to
look at what Pat Bryant did and you'd be like
over excited about it because you haven't really gotten that
type of downfield blocking and any of the run game.
You know, with the wide receivers, it's not something that
is constant. But on that particular play. What Roy Franklin
did is similar to what you would do as someone's
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blocking on a pumper turn. You just got to try
to put your your shoulder in front of him because
had he touched him on the side or in the back,
they were gonna throw the clipping or tripping and that
call that played by Evan Ingram was coming back.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
But here's what I love about the play itself. You're
backed up, you practice.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
These types of plays and situation of football.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And you're able to dig yourself out with a massive
play like that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
But also it's levels and what I mean by that
they know you have a right arm quarterback, and if
you go back and you look at the game, a
lot of jarostdam plays. I mean, to his credit, he
completed the passes were to his rights and they all
level progression.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Reads one, two, three, all succinct.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So he can just dial it up put into someone
else as his hands run after catch.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Well, now one again to your point, seems a design
right and he's going to the right. He's basically being
mirrored by Evan Ingram other receivers as well. They kind
of ran a mesh up front. But then Evan Ingram
who came in tight right before the snap. Then he
runs across the front of the offensive line, the front
of the line, and he's able to catch that in stride.
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And that's the thing that we really have been sort
of lacking with a tight end group is to not
only be able to have sure hands like that, but
it's he able to take it upfield at the speed
that he was able to do. Yeah, they're really on
that play.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
It's strictly a naked boot and everybody has designed routes
to run.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
There's no mesh.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You've got Ingram as the underneath receiver, you've got Franklin
as the secondary receiver, and you're right about Ingram speed.
I think again, we've talked about it. He runs like
a big wide receiver, and the issue is he's a
tight end. From a defensive standpoint, you can say, well,
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can't they just treat him like a big wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Well, no, because he's.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I mean, what is he And when he's in the game,
if they're an eleven personnel, is he attached?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Are you in your nickel? I just think he's going
to give you a lot of options in terms of
making it difficult for the defense to decide like, when
he's in the game, what exactly are they trying to do?
And who do we? How do we how do we
prepare for him? Who do we when he's in the slot?
What is he does? Is he a wider? Are we
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treat him as a tight end?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Because if he's a tight end, you either have a safety,
you know, maybe even a linebacker. But the defenses look
at him and say, okay, we're not treating him as
a tight end when he's in the slot.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
We're gonna treat him as a receiver. And then therefore
that that may limit and you would know, Nick, that
may limit what a defense can do too.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, well, yeah, because now that means if you're treating
him like a receiver, that means that now you're out
of your base defense.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
You're now in nickel defense.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And the way that some teams operate, they don't have
three to four good you know, dbs, and you got
to have a dog in they're at that nickel position
two who understands both pass and run.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Because if you get a team and you.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Say, okay, well we're gonna treat him like a wide
receiver and your nickel back is a.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Good you could also run at him too. But these
are the.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Problems that the Broncos offense with the guy like Evan
Ingram now presents that we thought Greg Dulsage was gonna.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Provide a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
There was also another play that he was in on
the twenty seven yard touchdown of Troy Franklin. Here's at
a sound, Jared throws the ball, He's got a white
little perceive Franklin get to catch scam person to the
end zone on the west sideline touchdown to Denver.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Jared stid him to Troy Franklin twenty seven yards out
and with one fourteen left in this first quarter, that
extends the Broncos lead to thirteen to seven.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So it's an interesting play, David. I don't know if
you remember this specifically, but they had Evan Ingram and
Troy Franklin on the left side basically stacked together, and
then they took off. Evan Ingram actually took kind of
a I don't know, a false step, but he took
a step outside then and then basically rode inside and
he was wide open.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean he would have been able to catch that thing.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He wouldn't have maybe scored a touchdown, but he would
have gotten a good twenty yard reception there. But then
you saw Troy Franklin sort of peel out to the
boundary and then run along the sideline.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
But that I love the design of that because you
just saw Evan Ingram burn.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You and the defense in a lot of ways converged
on Ingram even though he still would have found a
nice spot there to make a catch, but Troy Franklin
ended up walking into the end zone as a result
of it. Do you remember that play?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Sure I do. Yeah, I think that. I mean the
play design was good.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
But again keep in mind in preseason games, maybe they
actually looked a little bit at Arizona film. I don't know,
because because Seawan did want to, he made the point
like even before the game started, we'd like to get
Ingram some touches, We'd like to get Pat Brian some touches.
And then sure enough Pat Brian had four catches and
Ingram had the big catch early. So in that regard,
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I think there was some intention from the coaching staff.
But you know, I think with a guy like Boon Nicks,
you obviously want to be able to move the pocket
he throws on the run really well. Stidham can throw
in the run really well as well, and it only
can help your running game if the threat of the
boot more so than last year. I would say if
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the threat of the boot this year is utilized and
the Broncos actually become a good boot team, it will
help their point of attack offensive linemen because you know
they're not so eager to come downhill so quick when
they see that backstep. I mean, those those second level defenders,
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they want to fill that thing and sometimes you'll get
crossers in behind them that'll be wide open five six, six.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Nine zeros or ka cousrail text line we'll get We
had a lot of questions coming on and adrec estimate.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Let's let's get to that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
At the top of the hour, we'll hear from Sean
Payton talking about Audric in the post game and yeah,
I want to get your thoughts on the rotation that
they ended up going with. It's a really fascinating thing,
especially as we go into the final preseason game. In
some ways, it seems like it's still up in the air.
In other ways, it seems like they're from screaming from
the hilltops exactly what's going on with the running backs.
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We'll get to that, but you got some more thoughts
on that Troy Franklin twenty seven yard touchdown where Evan
Ingram and Troy were stacked on the left side.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, here's what happened on that play.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You can see that there was a conservative effort the
play calling to get Evan Ingram involved because he was
in the game. He was got like one of the starters,
only starters in the freaking game. So the play design
was impeccable and knowing as though I was out at
practice and I watched Arizona's defense and you can exploit
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them man and zone and.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What the Broncos did on that particular play. Go back
and watch it. You got Evan Ingram, he's on the ball,
Troy Franklin is.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Off the ball, and you have a hook defender, which
that's the guy on the hash marks the tracks, and
then the guy who's in a crow flat.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
The route was designed to attack both of those individuals
while putting the corner in the bond.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Because the corner saw Evan Ingram going vertical, he's like,
I have to take that. If I don't take it,
that's an instant touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And I thought, especially that one step he took really
kind of put them, as you said, in a by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And he had to do that because when everan Ingram
started to go vertical, he winden out just a little
right just to wind the corner. So if he were
to cross his face, that was an easy throw for Stidham.
So once again Stidham had two reads. You go, Evan,
and then the next one was Troy Franklin. Troy Franklin
being off the ball, he ran out and up so
the curl flat defender he lost him in his blind side.
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He didn't even drop back. And usually by design defensively,
you just want to take anything that runs in the flat.
Now that's your guy. Now you're playing going from zone
to man de man. He didn't take him easy throw.
Troy Franklin said, thank you kindly.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Absolutely, And again Ingram would have been an option too
if he wanted to go that route as well.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
No, I love the design ultimately the way they put it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
By the way I did, miss I had a misspoke,
misspeak whatever moment earlier when I said it was mesh
earlier on the Ebaningra fifty eight yard that was levels.
You were absolutely right about that. I just thought there
was somebody that creeped across the other side of it,
but that was not the case. Anyways, back to this play, though,
I thought that one step kind of sold it as
the possibility for the dB as he was having to
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make a decision that maybe Evan Ingram was going to
go was going to go that route, and maybe you
were going to see Troy Franklin peel off into the flat,
but instead as you ran, he ran out and up
went across and then he ended up having to walk
in touchdown. Now, the thing is, when you get to
the regular seasons a higher level quality of DB's and
that's no direct snap in any of these guys. It's
just an observation that maybe they will read it a
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little better under the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
See, that's great, Ryan for you to say that, because
I'm a former defensive guy trying to get some yeah,
trying to get some love, but I'm not going to
take that path. No, during the regular season. It boils
my bridges. When I watched this on the collegiate level
and even on the pro level, you know, when you're
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playing a three deep concept, whether you're down to the
weak side of the strong side, the corners are going
to be.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Put in the bond because they have to overlap. They
have to get vertical.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Like we talked about this during training camp when both
through the interception and Pastor ten overlapped to get the interception,
even though it's nullified due to a penalty.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
You have to know who you're playing and you have
to attack their scheme.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So right now, what I'm seeing is that the Broncos
from a scheme standpoint and execution thus far being we
watch two preseason games. If you are a team and
you're going to run three deep, they have a way
to really attack you. So if your curve flat hook
guys are not on point, they're not paying attention and
they're going for that carrot that's being dangling in the
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middle like.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
A shallow route. Oh it's touchdown season, No a day,
all right.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Love it, all right, we will come back.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We're talking about the running backs. Like I said, a
lot of questions coming to audreck estimate.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
We'll get to a next
Nick Ferguson in studio wearing another hat that has nothing
to do with Denver was Nick.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
No matter how many times you do that, that's not
going to change anything.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
But you at least went to this college. I mean
you at least went to Georgia Tech. I mean that
that makes a little more sense.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The other team I actually played for for two seasons,
So it's not like I'm wearing a CSU Rams hat
and I didn't attend the school.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That would be entirely different. Well, then you're rep in
the local community here, that's what that is.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, I mean I wrapped the local community any and
everywhere I go. So me choosing to wear a different hat,
God forbid I wear a different hat, then so be it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But but I know, you know, I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
This is you doing the Ryan Evers thing, and I'm
immune to it.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
You did a great job coordinating your outfit today.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
As I always do.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Thank you for you as well. You look good. Listen,
I'm going right to practice. I've been at the school,
going back to the school, so it just is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You know what I have to say this though, You know,
when when Dave comes in like today, like today, he
looks like he's dressed to play Wimbledon with his outfit,
you know, Dick, Yeah, Wimbledon with.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
All white short shorts and white oh yeah, because of
the white long sleep I wear the long.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Sleeves because it's it's my way, which is really kind
of stupid, my way of like, I wear the long
sleeves every summer workout because the kids are out there working.
I can't really do the workouts they're doing anymore, so
I want to. I want to stress myself out as
much as I can, so I wear long sleeve. Plus,
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you don't get some burned that way. There, you know
what I'm saying. So yeah, so I just I just
do that during practice. So but you guys, now, you
you guys need to you guys need to stop and
love each other a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Wait, you guys.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Right, you need you need to stop being argumentative until
Nick how much he means to you?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, exactly, Nick.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I can't promise I'll stop being argumentative, but I do
love you.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
Okay, that's the start. That sounds like that sounds like
a backhand compliment and charging three hundred an hour. Yeah,
I've got a good comment that I can work with.
And we continue to build the relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh boy, well, I've all.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Sorts of fun over the next three hours. We got
Rockies baseball. They're on a heater before we get to
the Broncos, and we got a lot of Broncos conversation.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
But I'm so happy, Studio, you kidnot so thrilled, Jorge,
Studio dick as the Rockies are on an absolute heater.
Three straight wins, three straight series, how about them?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Hey, that's that's great.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I've always pushed for the Rockies to win more games
and lose games.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Now, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Last week when we did to pick them, there was
that was a time where you did not choose them.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, they'll sit here and.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Act as though you know you got the on your
chess and on.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Your chest stands for hope. No, no, no, no no, let's
not food on myself.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Let's not kid ourselves as well. But you know what,
congratulations to the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Keep it up.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm a two straight series but won five of the
last six.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
That's great stretch of the season on you know, you
know what. And I thought about this when I when
I saw that today. So I'm just gonna say this
not to not to rain on your parade, but I
want him to win. Here's the deal. You can't you
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you can if you're Dick Monford. My suggestion would be
you do not get lulled in to like a false
sense of hey, wait a minute, okay, look how we
finished the season. We you know, at since August first,
until the season is over, we played at a you know,
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the fifth best clip winning percentage wise in the National League.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
To me, that is just that is false. Hope, you
are what you have been all season.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm happy they're playing better and finding a way to
win some games, and thank goodness for Hunter Goodman. But
you can't get lulled into saying and Dick, I think
at times is prone to do this where you look
and say, okay, look how we finished. I mean I
might not have to make all these changes you have
to finish for seventy wins day.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I mean, I'll kiss your ass in the middle of
downtown Denver Broadway for that Broadway and spear with red,
red frigging lipstick on my powder clips. If they win
seventy games you talking about you mean this year?
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I'm just say, mathematically speaking, how many they got now?
Speaker 6 (04:41):
They have thirty five.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They're thirty five and eighty.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Do you think they can win thirty five games?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Left?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
How many they got left?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well? Again my math?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Oh boy, we are okay, we've already that's why your
wife does the check register. So how many games they play?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They play one hundred and twenty four?
Speaker 6 (04:59):
Oh k and you think your math is how much? Okay,
so you're one thirty nine.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You can't quite get seventy wins?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
So they have thirty five wins now, yeah? And they
played one thirty four and one twenty four one twenty
four all right, so there's one sixty two thirty Yes,
that's twenty eight. Wouldn't that be twenty eight rand?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
One thirty four four twenty four thirty eight so that
you could Okay, that's my bet stands what happens in
an they don't win seventy? Now, I don't want you
kissing my asses.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It look like I have you are? Are we talking
about the shiny lipstick or the met to pick?
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Because oh but you gets pick? Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
So Ryan, right now, you.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Know if you you picked that that yellow shiny stuff,
I'll put that on.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That I'm gonna take the bet.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
What I'll lose nothing, So let me tell you that,
I promise you that much.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know if the dignity thing.
I think all the dignity is out the window at
that points for everybody.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
But no, they're not going to get to seventy wins.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But Ryan, I see what you're doing here. You're the
neighborhood hope dealer. That's what you are, a hope dealer.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It is it is definitely is.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Well, when they sweep the Dodgers livellas, when they sweep
the Dodgers over the next four you want to.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Put them on that, well, of course not.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
Why would I put something on that the Dodgers brings?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay, to beat the Diamondbacks in a series, you know,
you know, edge them out a team that's one notch
above you that they're eleven.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Games, come back and win those games, I get it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But to do it against a team like the Dodgers,
now we're talking, But I think if that would have.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Happened, Dave's narrative comes into play. It's a false narrative, right,
and you sell them more hope.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I was just responding to Dave's point about how maybe
Dick Marfort might see some hope here in these final
Here you go a game.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I mean, God, bless America, here you go, Here you go,
little Montfort, I mean seriously.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And then he might he might say something to the fact,
you know a couple of additions to this team.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
And yeah, I mean right, I said, listen, I mean
I like Dick. I'm not sure Dick Dick likes me
or us here, but I do like Dick.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I've known him.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
I don't know him well, but I've known him enough
to say that I that I like the guy. I
just I just don't want to see him fall into
the trap because they're playing better baseball.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
And I mean, any way you.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Look at it, almost assuredly, this will be the third
straight year they've lost one hundred games. What let me
just ask you this, Ryan Montfort, in what other sports?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Let's just say, what would be comparable?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
How many games in football would be comparable to losing
a hundred games in base How many games would you
have to lose?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
I probably of one sixty two. I'm going to help
you through this.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
What one hundred is? I don't know what the ratio
would that be.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
It's about it it's about sixty percent, I think. Okay,
all right, so around so you're losing around sixty percent.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
So in seventeen games I'm losing.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
That would be almost eleven games, right between ten and
eleven if my math is right. So, how many NFL
franchises if they had back to back to back, oh
you fired seasons of losing between ten and eleven games
in those three seasons.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Is there somebody's getting fired?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The NFL functions at a different level of expectation, of expectation.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
And I know baseball, I know, I love baseball.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I know it's a different or the the you know,
the I think the obviously, the pace is different, the
mentality of the players different, and I get that. And
you couldn't have a You couldn't if you had a
football player's mentality trying to play baseball for one hundred
and sixty two games. I mean he would, he would
lose his mind and probably a few around him too.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Because the Rockies get to fifty, how.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Do you how do you feel like today at thirty
five fifteen more on their next thirty eight?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Well, yeah, the way they're where they're playing now would
that change your mind. So if they finish one fifty
excuse me, if they finish fifty.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
Wins and one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Losses, your first thought is, here's here's how well I
know you. I would submit your honor, your honor ferguson
that plaintiff. Ryan's thought would be, well, I mean, look
how they finished.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
They finished on an upswing. Because you're a positive person
and I am sometimes delusional, yeah, and a little communistic.
But you say they finished on an upswing, So why
make the changes? Are you advocating for them to make
no change?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You know, loving the color red has nothing to do
with Remember I told you about the Tito you did?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, it was only three people alive in our audience
that knew who the al Tito was, and one of
them thought it was Jermaine's brother.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I say, it depends on where those wins come from.
And I think that's that's true about any sport. Well,
it's NFL, but baseball doesn't really matter. It's the same
conversation we had historically when the Broncos were the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Like a couple of times, are you saying like that?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, I will ask you a question I'm just saying,
like that you finished on an upswing, say you win
three every last four in the final month in football, right, Well,
people are like, gosh, you know.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
To get the six wins.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Some people will look at it as a hope.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Yes, you know, the coach's family, that's what we'll look
at it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Fair enough for the Rockies, Yeah, if they struggle over
half of September and then just have a flourish of
ten wins at the end, I don't know if that
necessarily changes.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Not to think what you're saying, if they go fifty
and one twelve, your advocate, I'm asking you're advocating no changes.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I am advocating such a good question, because fifty would
be clearing the mark that we set.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
You turn on your mic.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You again, stop stalling.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
What you're doing is waiting for traffic.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yes, exactly, Yes, you're trying to n.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
He's learned on this show. If you wait long enough,
damn sure commercial coming. Yeah you know that for sure,
got to go to commercials. That's why he's saying, as
that's right, seven more minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
You know I could fillibuster this thing. No, I would
still advocate for changes, I really would. I would still
advocate for changes, but as we have noted many many times,
the Rockies may not at fifty at fifty ways that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Therein lies the biggest conundrum.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I mean, you made changes inside the front office, moving
people around, you know, promoting from within. But at some
point you have to say, well, it's not about the ballpark.
And I know how much you and so many other
Rockies fans love the ballpark, love the cabanas and all
of those things, but at the end of the day,
it's about winning. Fans want to be associated with a
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winner when the Rockies came here.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Because I don't. I don't give two niggas about the
part of deck I want to win. I want to
know what what what Nichols? I don't give two nicholas.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I thought for certain were fixing the go on serious radio.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Oh my bad, listen, I got big.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Ears, you know, And man, I need the Q tip,
the one on the right there, my bad. But you
know what, judging from Ryan's face, he needs a Q tip.
That's why two Nicholas.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Yes, you know, okay, yes about well fair enough, Yes
you don't like fun and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
That's Wait, that's not fun. What we're seeing from the
Rockies isn't fun. Winning fifty games isn't fun. Once again,
have you seen the party tech, Dude, it's really cool.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I've seen it. Okay, right, but from afar you up there?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, no, go up there.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Have yourself. Well, you like apple juice.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So have yourself in the apple juice and take in
the sights of our beautiful stack.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So if I were to do that, yes, my overall
viewpoint would be changed.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You'd come back into the studio change man. Heck, you
might actually wear Broncos and Rockies gear five six six
nine zeros or kwakwas bird el text line. We got
to talk about this Broncos game. Now, some really cool moments,
especially offense.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I'm sure you saw the stat five hundred and sixty
what was the final?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Sixty seven?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Five sixty seven to one hundred and sixty three or whatever?
Yards total yards. I don't know how this up here. Oh,
Seedon won thirty five, That's what it was. So I say,
on the outset, even though you didn't see a ton
of starters, you saw players that are going to play
this year. We saw that big play from Evan Ingram,
(14:12):
Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
You saw Adam Tram and all those guys out there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
People will I think, will shift this thing because it's
a preseason game with backups and secondary players. But at
the same time, I saw playmakers out there doing things
that I think can translate or I hope can translate
into the regular season.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
I think that's fair. I really do.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I'm gonna say the same thing that I said about
the first team Broncos offense after the preseason opener, because
there were plenty of people that were saying, Holy cow,
what are they doing?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I mean, they couldn't even get out of their own way.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I mean, I think the offense played really well in
the preseason game number two, which Aristiadham, then you mentioned
Evan Ingram and Pat Bryant, was good for for seventy
I think. But the reality of it is they're playing
against second and third team.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Guys, and while some of those guys will be on
Arizona's roster, they're gonna be a whole bunch of them
that aren't. So I just try to balance out the
good and the bad in preseason. But I liked what
I saw.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
I thought Jared Stidham, to me, has proven that, Hey,
if something should happen to bow and you hope that
that's not the case. I mean, Stidy didn't throw a
pass last year in the regular season. Odds odds would
tell us that that is probably not going to happen
two years in a row. So do you feel comfortable
(15:34):
that you've got a veteran like Jared Stidham that can
drive the bus that you don't have to, you know,
just turn around and kind of hand it off, that
you don't have to really condense the play sheet that
you've work eighty hours on during the course of that week.
If you're Sean Payton, you don't have to. You don't
have to condense it.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
You can.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
There's still things you can do. So yeah, I think
that was encouraging encourage for me. After the game during.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Broncos react and I don't know if this is just
phantom run a muck. Certainly Twitter does this sometimes too.
There was the do we have a quarterback controversy with
Jared Sidham, and then the other swing of the other
side is should we be marketing and possibly trading Jared
Sidham After these two performances, Nick.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's a hell no to both of those and to
those fans who either texted that in.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Or tweeted that I didn't listen. People sometimes accused me
of driving those kinds of buses.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
This was not me.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I tried to dampen them down like Ben all Bright
with the wet blankets. I tried to tell everybody, this
is not happening. That is not a thing. But boyle boy,
I was hit up multiple times like, hey, no, Jared
sidem was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Well, here's what it proves.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Jared Stiddam is in his third season with the Denver Broncos,
and he is quite familiar as a Vedoin quarterback with.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Being in this position. He was in this position in
New England. He was in this position before under Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Right, this has kind of been where Jared Stidham has
basically leaved lived. So is he a starting quarterback in
this league. No, and there's nothing wrong with that. He
is an adequate backup because a lot of teams had
their number one, but they don't have a reliable number two.
So if you're Jared Stidam, you're living.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Your best life in the Broncos uniform.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You play through the preseason, you build up expectations, you
making a boatload of money to be a backup quarterback
in just in case.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They need you.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You come in, the expectations are all ready low for you, right,
so you can break through the glass. Cyling so great
for him, great hitting his targets, great keeping the offense
on rhythm. But once again, you can miss me with
that talk about quarterback controversy. Ain't know, damn quarterback controversy.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Do you feel the same way?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yes, thank you? Yeah, I mean I think grateful.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I think that there's no quarterback controversy at all. But
every single team, I can promise you this, thirty two teams,
not every single team feels really confident about their backup.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
They'll they'll all say different.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
But I mean, I think Jared Stidham has proven he
sort of fits into this offense. And now you just
hope he doesn't play. That's that's exactly righty.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
But you hope he didn't.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
You hope next year, You hope this season is just
like last season in terms of how many snaps he took.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
And you would trade Jared Sidham, right, I would absolutely
not trade Jared Didham.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I mean, what are you trade him for I guess
after I answer, what what do you? What are you
trying to entice me with?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I mean I can't even looks like, how about a
third round pick?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
What team?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
No, I don't think I would what team?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, Cleveland brown.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Cleveland Browns are still collecting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean, Cleveland Browns will be fine with their quarterback situation.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Okay, are you sure about that?
Speaker 6 (18:55):
The same thing you said when they signed to Sean Watson.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
No, it's not we got to take.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Great to take I hear this, David.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I are prepared for this moment. We knew you would
say that. Okay, No, I think I did.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Well. Damn, they finally got a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
The Browns in a good spot right now. I mean
the guy who's on a hot seat and hi guy,
look it out. That's can you Pickett?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I ain't no doubt about that, especially with Joe Flacco
officially being named the Star today. All right, we're off
early here on a Monday five six six nine zeros
or ka common spriate health text line. There was one
specific play that I thought was amazing, and it wasn't
just because of what the outcome was was what happened
during it. We'll get to that next.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
During the break, Nick had had a I'm not sure
what site it was, but it was it had that
yellow lipstick.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah, just in case.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
There's a lot of textures here on the KWA Common
Spirit Health text line saying that they need Q tips
as well because they thought you said something else.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Really yeah, interesting, Yeah you saw big My eyes were
the idea and like most of.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
That, that's how Ryan's face.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let's take a moment for those heels.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Just sit back for a second and be like, yeah,
I didn't see you push away from Migway.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yes, right, Like, but I looked right at you.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
I'm like, yeah, so what a good time night, Ca'm
we cleaned it up.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Though, well, yes we cleaned up.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, yes, Nichols, Nickels, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
This is nickelback, like, yes, god, what you said? You know?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Sor right, We're not gonna go down that revel We're good.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
There was a play. There was a play in the game.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
That I thought was spectacular.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It was a spectacular play because it was fifty eight
yard catch and run by Evan Ingram, But the thing
that was most impressive to me was actually the blocking
that happened to spring the fifty eight yard play.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Here's what it sounded like on Saturday Nights boots too.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
He is right wide open, throws the ball they just caught.
This has happened. Ingram down the east sideline and the
big tight end is loose.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He's out of the forty five steps to tackle.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Ingram still roll lean inside the Cardinals forty There's the
free agent acquisition that we've been talking about and the
speed for a tight end.
Speaker 9 (21:12):
Will Johnson has to make a touchdown saving tackle as
Evan Ingram catches a boot and rumbles for a gain
of fifty eight yards.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Boy, that certainly quieted a lot of the people out
there that were panicking after game one of the preseason,
where at Evan Ingram wasn't even targeted one time and
then he comes out and has that fifty eight yarder.
But Dave, the thing that it jumped out to me
is I got to watch it again today. Was the
blocking from Troy Franklin and Pat Bryant on the play.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean Franklin made a good I mean it
wasn't a devastating block, but he took an angle and
just got his body in front of a defender. Actually
it was smart because if you do try to declete
that guy from that angle, I think there's a chance
you're gonna get called for blocking the back. So all
you have to do is nudge him, put your hand,
you know, they teach you put your hands in the
(22:01):
air and just use your body. All you have to
do is slow him down one stride, which Franklin was.
Franklin did and then Pat Bryant was trying to run
somebody in a Cardinals uniform like to the airport, like
without four wheels. He was blocking him all the way
into the sideline, which I can tell you he's going
(22:21):
to get a lot of kudos for effort and everything
else from I would think from that coaching staff when
they watched that film.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And it wasn't just the one guy either.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
He ended up affecting several guys doing that block.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But the reason why, as a coach, you're going to
look at what Pat Bryant did and you'd be like
over excited about it because you haven't really gotten that
type of downfield blocking and any of the run game.
You know, with the wide receivers, it's not something that
is constant. But on that particular play. What Roy Franklin
did is similar to what you would do as someone's
(22:56):
blocking on a pumper turn. You just got to try
to put your your shoulder in front of him because
had he touched him on the side or in the back,
they were gonna throw the clipping or tripping and that
call that played by Evan Ingram was coming back.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
But here's what I love about the play itself. You're
backed up, you practice.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
These types of plays and situation of football.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And you're able to dig yourself out with a massive
play like that.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
But also it's levels and what I mean by that
they know you have a right arm quarterback, and if
you go back and you look at the game, a
lot of jarostdam plays. I mean, to his credit, he
completed the passes were to his rights and they all
level progression.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Reads one, two, three, all succinct.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So he can just dial it up put into someone
else as his hands run after catch.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Well, now one again to your point, seems a design
right and he's going to the right. He's basically being
mirrored by Evan Ingram other receivers as well. They kind
of ran a mesh up front. But then Evan Ingram
who came in tight right before the snap. Then he
runs across the front of the offensive line, the front
of the line, and he's able to catch that in stride.
(24:05):
And that's the thing that we really have been sort
of lacking with a tight end group is to not
only be able to have sure hands like that, but
it's he able to take it upfield at the speed
that he was able to do. Yeah, they're really on
that play.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
It's strictly a naked boot and everybody has designed routes
to run.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
There's no mesh.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You've got Ingram as the underneath receiver, you've got Franklin
as the secondary receiver, and you're right about Ingram speed.
I think again, we've talked about it. He runs like
a big wide receiver, and the issue is he's a
tight end. From a defensive standpoint, you can say, well,
(24:46):
can't they just treat him like a big wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Well, no, because he's.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I mean, what is he And when he's in the game,
if they're an eleven personnel, is he attached?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Are you in your nickel? I just think he's going
to give you a lot of options in terms of
making it difficult for the defense to decide like, when
he's in the game, what exactly are they trying to do?
And who do we? How do we how do we
prepare for him? Who do we when he's in the slot?
What is he does? Is he a wider? Are we
(25:16):
treat him as a tight end?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Because if he's a tight end, you either have a safety,
you know, maybe even a linebacker. But the defenses look
at him and say, okay, we're not treating him as
a tight end when he's in the slot.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
We're gonna treat him as a receiver. And then therefore
that that may limit and you would know, Nick, that
may limit what a defense can do too.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, well, yeah, because now that means if you're treating
him like a receiver, that means that now you're out
of your base defense.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
You're now in nickel defense.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
And the way that some teams operate, they don't have
three to four good you know, dbs, and you got
to have a dog in they're at that nickel position
two who understands both pass and run.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Because if you get a team and you.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Say, okay, well we're gonna treat him like a wide
receiver and your nickel back is a.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Good you could also run at him too. But these
are the.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Problems that the Broncos offense with the guy like Evan
Ingram now presents that we thought Greg Dulsage was gonna.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Provide a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
There was also another play that he was in on
the twenty seven yard touchdown of Troy Franklin. Here's at
a sound, Jared throws the ball, He's got a white
little perceive Franklin get to catch scam person to the
end zone on the west sideline touchdown to Denver.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Jared stid him to Troy Franklin twenty seven yards out
and with one fourteen left in this first quarter, that
extends the Broncos lead to thirteen to seven.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So it's an interesting play, David. I don't know if
you remember this specifically, but they had Evan Ingram and
Troy Franklin on the left side basically stacked together, and
then they took off. Evan Ingram actually took kind of
a I don't know, a false step, but he took
a step outside then and then basically rode inside and
he was wide open.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean he would have been able to catch that thing.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He wouldn't have maybe scored a touchdown, but he would
have gotten a good twenty yard reception there. But then
you saw Troy Franklin sort of peel out to the
boundary and then run along the sideline.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
But that I love the design of that because you
just saw Evan Ingram burn.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You and the defense in a lot of ways converged
on Ingram even though he still would have found a
nice spot there to make a catch, but Troy Franklin
ended up walking into the end zone as a result
of it. Do you remember that play?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Sure I do. Yeah, I think that. I mean the
play design was good.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
But again keep in mind in preseason games, maybe they
actually looked a little bit at Arizona film. I don't know,
because because Seawan did want to, he made the point
like even before the game started, we'd like to get
Ingram some touches, We'd like to get Pat Brian some touches.
And then sure enough Pat Brian had four catches and
Ingram had the big catch early. So in that regard,
(27:53):
I think there was some intention from the coaching staff.
But you know, I think with a guy like Boon Nicks,
you obviously want to be able to move the pocket
he throws on the run really well. Stidham can throw
in the run really well as well, and it only
can help your running game if the threat of the
boot more so than last year. I would say if
(28:18):
the threat of the boot this year is utilized and
the Broncos actually become a good boot team, it will
help their point of attack offensive linemen because you know
they're not so eager to come downhill so quick when
they see that backstep. I mean, those those second level defenders,
(28:39):
they want to fill that thing and sometimes you'll get
crossers in behind them that'll be wide open five six, six.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Nine zeros or ka cousrail text line we'll get We
had a lot of questions coming on and adrec estimate.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Let's let's get to that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
At the top of the hour, we'll hear from Sean
Payton talking about Audric in the post game and yeah,
I want to get your thoughts on the rotation that
they ended up going with. It's a really fascinating thing,
especially as we go into the final preseason game. In
some ways, it seems like it's still up in the air.
In other ways, it seems like they're from screaming from
the hilltops exactly what's going on with the running backs.
(29:12):
We'll get to that, but you got some more thoughts
on that Troy Franklin twenty seven yard touchdown where Evan
Ingram and Troy were stacked on the left side.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, here's what happened on that play.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
You can see that there was a conservative effort the
play calling to get Evan Ingram involved because he was
in the game. He was got like one of the starters,
only starters in the freaking game. So the play design
was impeccable and knowing as though I was out at
practice and I watched Arizona's defense and you can exploit
(29:44):
them man and zone and.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
What the Broncos did on that particular play. Go back
and watch it. You got Evan Ingram, he's on the ball,
Troy Franklin is.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Off the ball, and you have a hook defender, which
that's the guy on the hash marks the tracks, and
then the guy who's in a crow flat.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
The route was designed to attack both of those individuals
while putting the corner in the bond.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Because the corner saw Evan Ingram going vertical, he's like,
I have to take that. If I don't take it,
that's an instant touchdown.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And I thought, especially that one step he took really
kind of put them, as you said, in a by Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And he had to do that because when everan Ingram
started to go vertical, he winden out just a little
right just to wind the corner. So if he were
to cross his face, that was an easy throw for Stidham.
So once again Stidham had two reads. You go, Evan,
and then the next one was Troy Franklin. Troy Franklin
being off the ball, he ran out and up so
the curl flat defender he lost him in his blind side.
(30:40):
He didn't even drop back. And usually by design defensively,
you just want to take anything that runs in the flat.
Now that's your guy. Now you're playing going from zone
to man de man. He didn't take him easy throw.
Troy Franklin said, thank you kindly.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Absolutely, And again Ingram would have been an option too
if he wanted to go that route as well.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
No, I love the design ultimately the way they put it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
By the way I did, miss I had a misspoke,
misspeak whatever moment earlier when I said it was mesh
earlier on the Ebaningra fifty eight yard that was levels.
You were absolutely right about that. I just thought there
was somebody that creeped across the other side of it,
but that was not the case. Anyways, back to this play, though,
I thought that one step kind of sold it as
the possibility for the dB as he was having to
(31:21):
make a decision that maybe Evan Ingram was going to
go was going to go that route, and maybe you
were going to see Troy Franklin peel off into the flat,
but instead as you ran, he ran out and up
went across and then he ended up having to walk
in touchdown. Now, the thing is, when you get to
the regular seasons a higher level quality of DB's and
that's no direct snap in any of these guys. It's
just an observation that maybe they will read it a
(31:45):
little better under the circumstances.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
See, that's great, Ryan for you to say that, because
I'm a former defensive guy trying to get some yeah,
trying to get some love, but I'm not going to
take that path. No, during the regular season. It boils
my bridges. When I watched this on the collegiate level
and even on the pro level, you know, when you're
(32:08):
playing a three deep concept, whether you're down to the
weak side of the strong side, the corners are going
to be.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Put in the bond because they have to overlap. They
have to get vertical.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Like we talked about this during training camp when both
through the interception and Pastor ten overlapped to get the interception,
even though it's nullified due to a penalty.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
You have to know who you're playing and you have
to attack their scheme.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So right now, what I'm seeing is that the Broncos
from a scheme standpoint and execution thus far being we
watch two preseason games. If you are a team and
you're going to run three deep, they have a way
to really attack you. So if your curve flat hook
guys are not on point, they're not paying attention and
they're going for that carrot that's being dangling in the
(32:56):
middle like.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
A shallow route. Oh it's touchdown season, No a day,
all right.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Love it, all right, we will come back.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We're talking about the running backs. Like I said, a
lot of questions coming to audreck estimate.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
We'll get to a next
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