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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That was really good stuff there from Will Lutz and
Jonah Ellis speaking with Susie Warden. Is part of our
pregame tomorrow. Gonn Cover starts at eight am. Countdown to
kick off at nine as we walk you up to
kick off at eleven o'clock and then again, don't forget
to stick around for Broncos react myself, Ryan Edwards, along
with Benjamin Albright, we will take you all the way
to six o'clock, so there'll be a lot of reaction

(00:20):
to the game, reaction to the roster cuts that are impending. Certainly,
probably by the time we're off the air, they will
not be any because they're flying back to Denver, but
surely thereafter the cuts will start flying in Saturday night
and they have to have have it down to fifty
three by Tuesday at two o'clock.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You'll see cuts. Sunday afternoon, you'll start to see him
in full swing. There'll be a couple of guys that
are gonna be cut that get held over a little
because you're thinking you might get some interest in trade
that kind of stuff, but you'll see it. You'll start
to really see him Sunday afternoon and then clean house
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I feel like the Broncos with Sean Payton so far
and correct me if I'm wrong on this. They try
to late wait as long as they can for some
of these guys because they really want to m.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you want to you want other you want to
release people and flood the market and certain things that
you want. And you also want to hide guys so
that people try to make other plans and then you
then you dump, you know those guys.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Strategicy in a word. We got Rockies Baseball code up
here at the bottom of the art. Before we get
back into the Broncos here, I wanted to ask you
about a couple of NFL stories. First of all, Brian
Robinson Junior getting traded to the forty nine ers. You'd
been saying for quite a while, and we talked about
it a moment ago. You've been saying for quite a while.
You thought he was going to go to Miami. That
was the expectation. Credits to our gut Nick Ferguson, by

(01:33):
the way, Yeah, give him a little bit of love
because he talked about the forty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Ers last night.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
And for the betting favorite, I mean everybody knew they'd
be involved with the stipicler for the sticking point for
the Niners was Washington had to eat some of the money.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And they had been unwilling to do that at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
So I thought, okay, Miami because they were this the
next most serious team. But then the forty nine Ers
came back with the you know about the same offer
give or take a little bit, a little bit better
than Miami's offer, and UH and Washington agreed to eat
some of the UH I agreed to eat some of
the contract. Obviously, Adam Peters has a relationship you know,
out there with him and all that. So end of

(02:07):
the day, that's you saw what happened. So just for
curiosity purposes, we were talking.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
About fantasy football a moment ago, because you and I
have a draft this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
We got a bunch of drafts coming up.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm asking for both really just sort of how that
impacts the running back room. Seemac of course is number one,
but Isaac Grindo, who I know has been banged up
for camp, He's finally back at practice.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
How does this impact that running back room?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Is? Is b Rob going to work in with Christian
McCaffrey to get some starter reps or is he kind
of now sort of insert sorted like third or fourth
on the depth charge.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Is because of who they have.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's second on the dark charge. McCaffrey will be McCaffrey.
B rob will be short yardage in those kinds of things,
and he'll work his way into different things. You've seen
how Kyle Shanahan rotates those backs and all that kind
of stuff too, And so you'll see that. The idea
behind bringing Robinson ian is if McCaffrey is a little
and they need to reduce the workload after a game

(03:02):
or something like that, you can give a slightly larger
workload to Robinson.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Where's with Grenda?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You really don't feel comfortable doing that, And the other
guys that they have are just not guys that you
feel comfortable doing that. They went brought Jeff Wilson pack,
they get to James Jordan, who's been hurt.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Who else is on that roster?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Keishaan Vaughan not a guy that you feel like you
can run excessively and give him twenty carries if you
need to in a pinch. So that's the other part
of this is that Brian Robinson gives you an option
that if you you know, if McCaffrey is a little
dinged and you want to use him sparingly in a
game that you have, somebody you can feature for a
week or two and be comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Really strategicy. That's from that Seria Live clip. You remember that,
the George bush wan right, Yes, yeah, yeah, if you
could give us one word that sort of sums up
your entire strategery, your entire campaign strategy. Yes, yeah, I
remember that was a good one. And then the other
one for it was al Gore it was lock Box.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yes, I remember that one. I do remember though one.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, so great, really important question quickly on the text line,
wouldn't Lionel Albright be adding a lot of l's to
your name?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
The balances out, It's like two negatives make it a positive.
I don't think that's how that works. It's a math,
it's physics science.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
The other thing I want to get to here is
Eric Dickerson, who is alleging that the NFL colluded against
Sor Sanders, saying that teams were told not to draft
Sunor Sanders to teach him a lesson.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
You know what, I saw this, I thought this was
just kind of silly. It doesn't most of the time
with collusion stuff with the NFL.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's like, well, I mean, I guess you could technically
see some things like when it came to after the
Deshaun Watson contract and the NFL very clearly did not
want fully guaranteed contracts to be a thing, especially for
the quarterbacks. That one makes sense to me that collusion,
because that's just a logical thing. The NFL does not
want that. Nobody wants that. And so you know the

(05:00):
reports that came out later, we saw that over the
summer that it's like, oh, well, gosh, teams are colluding
to Well, of course they were. That's bad business. This
one's weird. I don't know about this one. What do
you think.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Look, I, as.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Far as Dickerson having been told that by somebody, I'll
believe that part. As far as that being true, I
don't believe it. I mean, I don't even believe it's plausible.
You know, like the NFL understanding that it is under
hyper scrutiny and doing everything it can to avoid discovery
in certain lawsuits and has some coming up, and knows

(05:32):
exactly what having communications like this are doing. What this
doesn't tell us is who this person is is Roger
Goodell the NFL in this case, dictating to two teams,
because that's not how that works, you know, Roger Goodell
is there to be the shield for the individual owners.
The individual owners have never come to an agreement on
anything in the history of the league other than they

(05:53):
don't want to pay players, you know, as much as possible.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
So the rest of it's not I mean, it just.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Doesn't make any sense, especially just after the collusion ruling
when they found the NFL's Management Council encouraged teams as
a result of the Watson contract to resist fully guaranteed contracts.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
So they know, you know, at this point the scrutiny,
they'd be on it. It does not make any sense to
set yourself something so obvious too, if you like, that's
the thing with any if she do her or a
primary one to sue and get discovery on this, they
find out right away, you know, and who would they
would be the people that we legitious enough to do it.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
There's a lot of holes in this one. Yeah, I
think that they just viewed him as a mid round.
I think he got t boat. In the end, right now,
Tebo's stunk, So that's part of it.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
But in the end, the reason that nobody wanted to
bring Key Bow on is a backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Your opinion, by the way, he's stung. That's not my opinion.
That's everybody's opinion. That's your opinion when you when you
quit hamming it up for radio.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
The reason that wow, reason that Tim Tebow couldn't get
jobs a backup quarterback and get those reps on the
customers because.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Who wanted that headache?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Who wanted to do what coach, what front office wanted
constant press conferences about their backup quarterback.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
So that we actually agree on that partly the TBO.
How way the talent outweigh the.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Talent, and so that's that's sort of the thing I
think that teams around the league with with Shador, I
think she could have gone, you know, to two rounds earlier.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I absolutely could have gone two rounds earlier. I mean,
I comparing.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Him in case Keenum, I mean he's he's at or
slightly better than Case Keenum as a prospect, So you know, yeah,
he could have gone a couple of rounds earlier.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That that's entirely possible. But the teams are looking at
this saying.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Do I really want to deal with his dad has
one of the largest platforms on Earth already, and oh,
by the way, can go on any media platform on
Earth and light up the microphone there.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Do I really want to deal with that?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
And oh, by the way, if we have a bad game,
he's going to jump on there and light So do
I really want to deal with press conferences about my
young backup? Do I really want to deal with that
kind of of parental possible involvement?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
And at the end of the day, I mean, you know,
you saw he went to a team that already drafted
a young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
And so I don't believe I believe somebody told Eric
Dickerson this.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I don't believe it happened.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, all right, and then that's again plausible somebody said
something to him, whether or not the league actually back
something like that. And I love your point specifically before
we go to the Broncos, I love your point specifically.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Like, Okay, who would do something like that?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Because Roger Goodell going to the rest of the league
and saying, hey, we want to make an example out
of this young man. It doesn't make a lot of
sense because most teams are like, hey, if he's a quarterback,
that can help us win if we want us them
to say, they're all.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Competing the gage of these teams, like you talk about collusion.
In most cases, they're really not doing that.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
The only way they're doing that is for financial reasons
because it saves them money.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
They're not trying to help out their competitors.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, every one of these dudes that rowls on
of these teams is competitive too.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
They're billionaires, they're sharks. They want to win too.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
They want to say, look at look at my shiny
jewel that I bought.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
The wins, where's yours?

Speaker 4 (09:05):
You know?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
So that that that part is.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
And who is the person that allegedly told Eric Dickerson this?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Do you really think.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Sheriff Rodge was out there like you will not draft
should do her?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh he's in the force. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Rogers posted up in the leather chair from the COVID
draft with the you know, with an old fashion in
his hand, just chilling.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Kyle, We remember that.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I haven't thought about that in years. Drunk on air,
so hammered, Yeah, you got through. Goodel was wasted on
the air, and we didn't bloody bum picks what. We
were great with it because there was obviously riveting TV.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
But nobody and nobody brought it up again. Roger Goodell
was wasted for the words. I mean, it was like
it was like he was almost it. I'm gonna do
Harry Carrey impersonations, and nobody batter than I.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I'd be good with it because at that point we
were so desperate for anything sports related.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
He was up there on TV ron burgundining at a
Scotch Scotch cotch here's how it goes down.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
It still was one of the greatest things he's ever done, of.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
All the things, that's right.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, there's no way. There's absolutely no way. I just
I can't say there's no way. I refuse to believe
that they're that dumb. Yeah, you gotta be careful. I
gotta be careful.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
It's it's been forty eight hours for you. It's this
stuff gets snipped. Yeah, that's what they do. They and
they chop it up and then there.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
You know, there's no way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I find it highly highly, highly improbable, Like I'm over
your parson words at levels that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, when you decided to become an insider, did you.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I didn't decide, They decided would you come in here
and say I'm interviewing for your insider role.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's exactly what happened. No, it isn't.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
They called me and we're like, you have a huge
social media following, and we'd like to give you some
tryouts on the air.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And they were epically bad.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
By the way, when you were so bad when you
were talking about your introduction to radio the other day,
so bad it was. It was certainly nice that you
gave her Brown and Joe Williams and nice shadow Wish,
which of course we both share that in common. But
you really kind of neglected your intro to Live Heart.
You're right, you did.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
You did.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Did not give Danny Williams enough credit? Yeah, or Dave
Logan or Jojo Turnbau. I mean you really you did
talk about David. You just said there's some more people
that you should have Jojo Turnbo.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I can't think of anyone else that would have even
made that introduction at the Senior Bowl that.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Would have made the introduction and then brought you on
as an insider on a different station.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yes, that in that's in that regard which.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Got you in front of those people showcase your talents.
I got to send Andrew made some some Christmas cards.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
That the greatest, the greatest, anything a crediting Ryan Edwards.
At this point, everybody knows that. I mean, like, I've
been over that, over the top you.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes, it was fun listening to that first segment of
BCT last night. As I was driving home listening to
you guys, very I did not want to.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Give me love that. Oh no, that was the thing,
like we've plotted.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I wait until we saw you hit the elevator before
we pivoted conversation right.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
No hold, oh oh no, I heard it. I was
listening in on my radio.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
App, which is freakings to take it for granted. Podcast
when none of that dude decides to put a podcast up,
it's phenomenally No way.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Oh god, I can't believe I did that. I walked
right in. I walked right into your devious trap back there.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
There's no way, there, no way, you know, Oh my god, yep,
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's a Friday.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
So we got Rockies baseball kind of a reminder tomorrow.
A couple things. First of all, catch the game with
Benjamin Albright and Nick ferguson it burned Down Denver off
Broadway from eleven to one, and to win a Broncos
Raiders trip to Vegas, all presented by Arta Tequila, the
official Tequila Denver Broncos. That's one thing. Second thing during
the game. During the broadcast tomorrow, it's going to be interactive.

(12:57):
So starting at eleven am, you can text Dave Logan
Rick Lewis about the game five six six nine zero
and the upcoming season, and one of our textures will
win a pair of tickets to the opener against the Titans. So,
as Ben mentioned, there's an opportunity if you go to
burn Down to win tickets for the opener. There's an
opportunity for listening and texting in after eleven o'clock five
six six nine zero to Dave and.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Rick to win tickets to that. So all sorts of
cool reasons.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
And again don't forget to stick a round till after
the game and listening to Broncos react. We'll be shopping
it up. We'll be taking your calls. It's gonna be
a lot of fun. Speaking of voice the Broncos, Dave
Logan plays a little earlier. We'll be doing this throughout
the season. He sat down with coach Peyton. Now he
does this. He tapes the pregame interviews every week. Right,
this is something we've been doing for years, in fact,

(13:44):
fifty years of KAA and the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, we've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
So he sat down with Coach Payton, and we're going
to be bringing this to you throughout the season of
them chopping up a play from the previous game. So
the Arizona Cardinals Troy Franklin caught two touchdowns. The second
touchdow Down. Here was their conversation shot.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
And snapped the city. He looks right, throws a fade
right side. He wants Franklin.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Franklin with the fighting effort and a touchdown in the
corner of the south end zone.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Once again, like a great call. Honestly, that's it. At
some point, there's going to be a bad call. Can
I can I say absolutely?

Speaker 6 (14:19):
All right, absolutely, that's to be prepared when you make
a bad call against the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, I'm going to say, what the hell is he calling?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Listen, it's a great call. So here's what's going on
in this series. This is in a two minute drive.
I thought Jared is at an outstanding camp with me too,
and when you watch him, the poise, the decision making,
the location. The location here is perfect, sticky oscar. With
the two inside receivers working these outbreaks and the outside

(14:45):
receivers are working outbreaks, Troy gets pressed and in other words,
bump and run, and so his route adjusts and two
things happen that are important on the play. With the
adjustment to the fade ball by Troy, he leaves himself
some green grass for that ball to be placed by
Stidham stacks the defense. He stacks him well. And when

(15:07):
we work those release drills, if the dB is able
to push him further, then the target becomes a lot
more difficult. The throw's perfect, the catch is fantastic. In
any time, there's two weeks in a row now where
at the end of the half we're scoring points to
go into the locker room, and the perfect end of
the half is scorn points and then coming out and

(15:30):
receiving the football. So you'd love to finish the first
half in a two minute drive yourself, without leaving any
time on the clock, and then knowing you're going to
get the ball to start the second half, and that
happened in this game as well.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Ye last thing on this play, I was impressed with Franklin.
Who's I mean, he's a speed guy, he certainly has
that kind of ability, but I thought he did a
nice job just going up and really fighting for that ball.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, he's one of those guys. And I've coached a
few that is a little bit more line or built,
but strong. I would say his blocking in this camp
has stood out. And when you look at his stature,
you wouldn't necessarily think that sure, And but this is
this is a physical route here. I mean there's a
there's a collision point where they're fighting for turf. He's

(16:17):
got strong hands. And then the other thing we're seeing
and and you've seen it every year. You just see
the confidence of a young player, yep. And and it's
only born out of demonstrated ability. We could wish for it,
you know, we we can, we can, we can hope
we play well. But when you start stacking plays like
this together, then pretty soon you expect to make all

(16:39):
of them. And we're watching his growth just like we
watched Men's growth a year ago, right, right, in front
of our eyes.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Really good stuff there, and we're gonna continue to do
that throughout the season, breaking down plays imagine one. Have
another one coming up for the Titans game, because our
next game is.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
In the regular season.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
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Speaker 3 (17:04):
Really interesting one this.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Week, which is rare because last week it was boring
because David already locked it up.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I'm five and three days, five and three, Nicks, five
and three, Bens four and four. You're you're not out
of it bringing up the rear.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, and I love that we're doing preseason football. It's
the greatest Bears at Chiefs, Bears on the road, favor
by one and a half over under forty two and
a half. These are Grant's numbers. Dave has not gotten
this pick in shocker strategy. I'm glad that I have

(17:37):
that drop three Q. We should we could find the
Will Ferrell one, which is also really good. Niggas eating
the Bears in the.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Over the over, Benjamin, I will take Kansas City, of course,
you are, and I don't take you under.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Fading Nick dot com. I'm taking the.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
And I also like the under the Yonder even though
the line was a half here for Dave to win. Yes,
if Dave takes Kansas City in the over and both hits,
Dave will win.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Otherwise we're playing for ties here. That's it.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
And I'm sure Dave appreciates having a path for a
win here. What does he got he's at forty five. Well,
that's the advantage of going last. Every time you get
to you get to tape for that stuff. Don't tell
him that because he thinks, no, no, this is completely
If he just thinks that, then he's welcome to go
first from now on.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I tried that didn't work out so well. Funny how
that works. There's no advantage, but I'm not changing.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's the greatest, Yeah, coach, I've at thirty three year
a thirty two. Nick is at five takes a little
bit disadvantage Yonder.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I'll be grant all right. That does it for us again.
Tomorrow our cover starts at eight a m. It's exactly
a reminder for me to be here at Adam.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
When you notice I keep saying ben an Am also
Ben's on the post game Broncos react with me.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
If I remember.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
He's coming hot from the burned out, looking forward to
great as always, we've got Rockies baseball coming up next.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
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