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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is after four o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome back, Rod Edwards, Benjaminal Bride five six six nine
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Broncks wrapped up practice today.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
They got one more practice tomorrow and then I imagine
really won't hurt hear from them until Monday, and Sean
Payton might do something there as they kind to begin
their normal practice week. Get anywhere For the Tennessee Titans,
it's it's right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Zach haves me an interesting question earlier, and.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm I've been thinking about Jade Baron and perception and
part of this is coming on the heels of the
Caleb Blowner stuff. Watch everybody call him a bust because
he didn't make the original fifty three roster, which is
some of the dumbest click bait nonsense. But whatever, whatever.
Everybody's entitled to their opinion and that's what it is.
But if Jade Baron isn't the starter on day one,
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what are people saying?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Oh, they're freaking they're melting down, they're freaking out. I
mean that's you know, how people are. Whatever, the most extreme,
most unwarranted overreaction is that's what will happen, and I
don't think that's I don't think you need to do that.
First of all, Vance Joseph has a reluctance to play rookies.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He just does.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
He makes you earn it, keep earning it, and earn
it some more. Uh, and then going intow year two,
we'll get you on the field. And we saw that
Riley Moss was a guy who he had some injury
stuff too, but he couldn't crack the field. And we
all see how good Riley Moss is. Vance Joseph has
a propensity to not trust rookies, and so I would
suggest that a Baron gets fewer snaps to this season
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than people think a first rounder should get.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's probably why it's it's a bit unfair. But you
know how this works.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You get compared to the players that were drafted right
behind you, especially when you're a first rounder, like because you,
I guess ostensibly could have drafted any of those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Soon.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Omrion Hampton, for example, if he goes and has a
Pro Bowl season or a Rookie of the Year kind
of season out there with the LA Chargers, there are
gonna be a lot of Broncos fans that talk about
that and now fair or not because they're playing different positions,
they're in different situations, but it's just sort of what
it is. You know, you had a very good secondary
already and a lot of Broncos fans were very keenly
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aware of that, and then you added a guy to
it that has to sort of crack that very talented secondary.
And I actually appreciate not even just saying this because
we've broadcast against.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I appreciate the slow role on it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I appreciate not forcing him out there and potentially ruining
his confidence.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think the last thing you want to do.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And we have seen that by the way, tomorry mathis
where you have seen where you put guys out there
because you didn't have a choice, and maybe at some
point in the season you won't have a choice but
to force him out there at the beginning of the season,
just to check the box of we started our first
round pick so that the fans feel as though that
was good value.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That would be a.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Mistake, Yeah, and that you you what's the old saying,
you listen to fans, you gotta wind up sitting with them,
like you know, the advance Joseph is and Sean Bayden
are always coaching for their jobs, so they're not going
to deliberately do something to recap the team in most situations,
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like there might be something where, you know, you get
a specific situation, you might want to do something that
kind of for the most part, they're not going to
do something that results in a negative, right, So, yeah,
he's not just gonna not play. He's got a Barron,
you know, to the detriment of the team. Now, he'll
make He'll make a rookie do extra to earn it,
you know. But yeah, I and I still think Baron
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will probably wind up being the starting nickel, if not
to start the season, at least at some point. Well,
and you can get him on some dime packages. I
mean there's some yeah you're gonna see. And he likes
to play dive. Vance loves to play dome. So the
idea that you could have both him and Ja Kwan
running dual slots and move a safety down as a dimebacker,
run those kind of packages that Advance wants to run,
those exotic looks that he wants to run.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think he'll see play of that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And if he's given an opportunity to make some highlight
reel kind of plays if I not even just say one,
like if he makes one or two, like game changing
kind of places. Doesn't have to be the end all
be all, kind of like pick six stuff, but like
a couple of PBUs in high leverage situations, Broncos fans
will love him like almost.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's amazing how quickly that can change.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just think right now for Jaday barn And it's
a bit of a difficult thing. Being in the right
place and communicating with your team doesn't quite grab the
headlines as much as Hey, you know, Jade Baron's for
the first three preseason games has an interception each each
game like that, right there, we'd be having Rookie of
the Year conversations defensive MVP. I mean, people losing their
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minds about the draft pick. But instead it's, well, he
made a really good tackle and he was in the
right position, and the coaches really like him because he
communicates really well and they feel like they can trust
him out on the field.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That doesn't grab the headlines.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, it's I mean again, it's so much of what
you're out there now is all rage bait type stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Anyway, you know, it's all clickbait.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Rage bait is designed to get your interaction and your
reaction instead of just telling you what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And you're right, I think that being a.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Good player without having any splash plays doesn't generate the
clicks and the hits and the you know, all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think some people also wrote off Jque, and maybe
I did to asserting as well, wrote off Jque a
little early, call it ambuletce, but not for me, right right,
But it's hard because your lasting memory was Riley Moss
being banged up. The safeties, especially PJ having a tough
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time and Jaquan having a bit of a tough time,
and it's like it's like we talk about with the
offensive line, sometimes you're only really as strong as your
weakest link.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, and if.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Your safety PJ Lock, who's dealing with the back injury
at that time, was struggling, well, then of course you're
Nichol's gonna pbably struggle and Riley Moss is also struggling.
I mean, there's just gonna be so many breakdowns because
there's only so many ways to cover it. Yeah, if
those if that many guys are dealing with stuff, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
And that's I mean, and that's that's the thing. Defense
is it's like the chain, right, any chain is only
as strong as his weakest link, and and and that's
the that's the way that it goes. So if you
are you know, and I think that's part of the
reason they wanted to do that. You've seen a propensity
for the Broncos to draft on strength.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Before John Away did it for years.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, Jake Quan, you know, I think he's a serviceable
starter in this league.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I do.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I think that they felt like they united upgrade there
in order to be able to do some things they
want to do. But having the depth there too matters.
And getting a player that you had graded out as
a top ten guy in this draft another corner. You know,
we saw what that can do, having three four great corners.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We saw what that could do.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
We saw that in Super Bowl fifty. So anybody who's
sitting there banging the drama of all it's a bust
or whatever on guys who haven't played a snap in
the NFL yet, is an idiot. I mean that you're
an idiot. Just you can and you could take this
clip and send it to him.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You're an idiot. Well, they do clip segments show.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the thing. I appreciate all the
extra downloads. Yeah, I'm just saying that's what we do.
I don't care if the love downloads or hate downloads.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll take him. Three D chests by the way.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Real quick, congratulations Delton Reisner former Broncos timing with the
Bengal is fulfilled.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
How many years?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So where was that draft twenty nineteen? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So in case people forgot, the Broncos had they had
the two first the two second round picks.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
They had one second round pick, and they traded They
traded back ten right to uh twenty to twenty to
get No.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A Pittsburgh. Yeah yep. And then they took no offense.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And then they moved up in the second round and
what they but before they did, they they drafted Dalton
Riisener with that first pick and then told they told
Cincinnati what they're gonna do, like, We're draft Dalton Riisner
because they knew Cincinnati was gonna draft him. So they
drafted Dalton Reisner, agreed to the trade with Cincinnati and
got Drew Lock with the picker right after that because
Cincinnati was going to draft Dalton Reisner.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So if they would have said we're drafting Drew Locke,
Cincinnati'd be like, no, sorry, we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Keep a pick.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So yeah, so they knew they got some into from
somewhere and they turned around and they went ahead and
doubled up there. And then it's remarkable, I mean, the
razor's edge of some of these things, of these deals
and the information exchange and where it comes from to
where it actually comes from, it's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know, how does Javonte Williams even get here? But
it's a little inside. But that's the point one.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, but the point the point of it is
is like they wouldn't have framed it that way because
Cincinnati wanted Dalton Reisner. Then yeah, then they would have
ended up with maybe not getting Dalden Reiser. They would
have just had Drew Lock or yeah, or maybe Dalden
Reisner and not Drew Lock. I guess to that point,
if they would have said, we're not telling you, then
Cincinnati's like, oh, just we're gonna stay put them.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, So that I mean, they didn't see all the
deal with Cincinnati's after they officially selected, right, so they
just told him ahead of time to get the ball rolling. Well,
if we take your guy, here, are you willing to
move this pick? We'd like to get in, you know
that kind of thing. And then they knew they were
taking their guys.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And now Noah Fan, Dalton Reiser, and Drew Lockhart somewhere else.
No Fan actually with Cincinnati remark right, Drew locked back
in Seattle, or.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We gonna have a October to remember.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't know, maybe a Drew Simber to remember. It
just depends on Darnold.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I guess sometimes I lead into the JAD jokes just
to just to make you feel good.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
If you're just.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Joining us now, thank you for listening, and you can
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the show. There was a report out from practice. I
was out there earlier, so I did see this, but
it was must have been after I left. Marvin Mims
left practice today, but Sean Payton, via a pool report,
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let the media know out there that he left with
a groin injury. And it's quote not overly. They're not
overly concerned about Marvin Mims, which is a massive sigh
of relief because of how much he means to wide
receiver recorps as well as the returners.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, you know sources. Basically, he pulled up and then
was helped off by trainers.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Didn't go down. It was helped off by trainers.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So maybe maybe he just felt a little something there
and a more of a precaution thing, as they certainly
didn't have to call the card out or a stretch
or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, they were doing pretty Again, I can't describe
what we saw practice. We're not allowed to do that,
especially since Seawan didn't talk lighter practice. It was a
lighter I mean they were, Yeah, it was. It was
barely a jog if you will. So, yeah, so maybe
they were. They ramp some things up towards the end
of practice that I didn't know and see, but what
they were doing early felt like.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Something that they probably could make it through. But here
we go. That that is the news you said you
wanted to give a.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I want to shout out there. I don't get
to do this very often. I want to shout out
some British soccer here real quick.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Grimsby Town FC.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Has just defeated Manchester United in the Carabo Cup. And
for those of you who don't understand what that means,
Manchester United is an English Premier League soccer team.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They play in a stadium that seats eighty thousand.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
To put that in perspective, Town is a fourth tier
British soccer club whose stadium capacity is just over eight thousand,
slightly smaller than my high school stadium.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And that is, I mean, that is.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
An absolutely phenomenal like this is this would be like
a minor league. This would be like the backups on
a UFL team beating the Denver Broncos. To put that
in perspect I mean, it would be like the backups
on a UFL team beating an NFL franchise in a game.
I mean is it's a stunning development for one of
the premier soccer leagues in the world. And also, you know,
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hats off to Grimsby Town, who's a nobody soccer team
in the middle of a small town on the seashore
in England. I think there's twenty thousand people in that
town if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Congratulations you. You've been doing a lot more soccer stuff, right,
even on BCT.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I mean, I wouldn't say we do a lot, but
I you know, I've become a fan over the last
couple of years. Somebody put me on to soccer when
they talked about how Eric Spolster had brought Chip Kelly
into the discuss spacing concepts and and sort of put
me on to this genius soccer coach in Spain. And
ever since then, I've kind of become a fan.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Are you like up, Are you such a fan that
you're up at like three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I have the subscription to the Liga on my on
my espen, I do actually have the subscription, but I'm
not up.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I'm not watching it, you know at two three in
the morning with somebody says, man you is playing eighteen
year olds?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Dude, man you was playing. I mean they had Manchester
United had incredible players. This is the Caramel Cup is
a is a tournament that allows people for different levels
to go compete and all that kind stuff. Yeah, they
had some guys out there that were younger, but it's
still Manchester United. It's still one of the premier soccer
clubs in the world and they got beat by somebody
who has a team that has a stadium capacity of
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eight thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The co excited you are.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
We always love it when the underdog wins one.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I just like you know, I like seeing you inspired
by things, Ben, and on occasion so many times you
coming here. My motivation is wearing all black and it
just seems like you're so down about everything and just
mourning everything. You know, somebody's asking for fantasy sleepers. I'll
tell you what we will sepside News of traffic here
at bottom of the hour, we'll get to Riley Moss.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It's some really interesting things about to.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Say about the depth of the secondary, playing outside versus inside.
Cause you remember when he was coming out as a
as a draft pick, there was a discussion whether he
should be a safety or should be an outside corner.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Get a good answer on that. So we'll hear from
Riley Moss.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We'll talk a little about the secondary, but we'll give
you the listener there a fantasy sleeper.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Ben's got one, I got one. We'll do that next.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's probably the most soccer we've ever talked on the station.
Of course, Ben Albright' here can really go in a
lot of different directions. Somebody asked, as a lifelong Grimsby
Town fan, ask you if it was on esp and
the ohow, that's good. They're gonna make a movie about
that club now they might.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean, it's it is. It's pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Grimsby Town's total payrolls about three point one million pounds
per year, which is less than twenty players individual players
that Manchester United has signed.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You're kind of a nerd. I'm just saying I like
that about you.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Though, menu has thirty one players, twenty of them nine
of them are backups. Nine backups for Manchester United make
more than the entire.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Team of Grimsby Town.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
All right, So before you get to Riley Moss, we
promised one of our listeners here because he wants they
I should say they want a sleeper in fantasy football?
Do you want to go first? If you say b
Jhon Robinson, you really just would I mean Saquon Barkley obviously?
Would you know?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I think there are I guess it depends on what
you mean by sleeper. Is this somebody that you're drafting
as a starter, but most people are overlooking them, or
is it somebody you're taking a flyer on for later
in the years, more of.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
A developmental player that could end up popping. I don't
one that you should say, because you've told me about him,
is Chris Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, that's the direction I was going. Eckler's to lead
back there, and I know all the fantasy guys are
on Krossky Merritt, but Meret's the third string back there
and very much the third string back there. Rodriguez will
get all the goal line, short yards work stuff like that.
Eckler will get a lot of the passes. So I
don't know that Krosky Merritt, affectually known as Bill is
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really going to be as viable I think as a
lot of people thinking that, oh, like a sixth round
right now, which is absurd, absolutely absurd.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And now I gotta be careful here because we still
have a draft coming up on Monday.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well we've already been through a draft, though, so we
sort of know what each other thinks.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I know, but I also you know, there's some guys
that I might end up taking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But okay, yes, Chris Rodriguez, that's one. Oli Gordon. I
think if you're on Oli Gordon this year. That's want
to keep your eye as well. Yeah, oligoron and I
mean the talent.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's remarkable how just two years ago he's considered the
best running back in the country and in college football obviously.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And then they start stacking the box, he said.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Then he like has a bit of a down year
and then you get into this draft. That was load
of his running back talent. He just sort of gets left,
you know, forgotten. But if you remember von A Change
was a third round pick. Now he's going in the
first round. I'm saying in real draft he was a
third round pick. He is a fantasy superstar, but is
also a guy that deals with injuries. And yeah, I
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think all A Garden and Jalen right by the way,
is already banged up, would be ostensibly his backup, right.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So yeah, he's probably we're gonna be the backup early
and might have a chance, with the history of injury
of those two players, to work himself into a very
productive role.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Those are good ones, So for our listener, hopefully you
like those.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I will offer just two for fun.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Sake, justin field, how that mic off, I'm cutting your
mic Off. I will pull I will pull the plug.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know me too well. We have known each other
for too long. I will pull the plug. Listen a show.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Justin Fields that his adp he could be a top
ten field sucks.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He's so bad. But for fantasy football purposes, Ben.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Unless you get a bonus for you know, skipping the
ball to your receiver, even those rushing yards are not
gonna be enough.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
If you get a hundred rushing yards per game, which
he might actually do running for his life. You get
bonuses in most leagues for one hundred rushing yards, and
he's gonna run in the touchdowns. He's like Jalen Hurts, right,
He's just gonna He's gonna run into every single touchdown.
He could be a top ten fantasy quarterbacking. You don't
want to hear it, but it's the truth.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There's if he is a top ten quarterback in your league,
your league scoring system is broken.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Drink, Okay, so I'll do I'll do it more serious. Fine,
Uh might be.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
The worst quarterback I've seen in years.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I really like Tyler Warren a lot I've been telling you,
but quite a bit. I think I think for the
tight ends is kind of the top four or five
guys that will go relatively early in drafts. Travis Skales
can be fascinating to watch for fantasy purposes and again
for all the people that are like, oh my god, fantasy,
we will be moving off this to promise just two
seconds back to back with soccer, I got imagine Dave
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Logan listening is like, what is going on? I leave
for a few minutes. It was soccerat and fantasy football?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You killing me?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Anyways, Tyler Warren, I'm a really big fan.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think going with Daniel Jones is only going to
help him, and obviously liked what he did in college.
If you watch him in the preseason, he's he's got
basically the same kind of role. He's going to be
a checkdown guy, and I think in PPR stuff he's
going to have a pretty major role. So I like
Tyler Warren if you want to go a deeper sleeper.
I didn't mean to say like that, but I did.
Tory Horton up in Seattle MVS is gone.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He was the guy that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Was really kind of in Tory Horton's way of potentially
being a viable player.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You have him really.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Late in most drafts, and he's gonna get out there
as the third wide receiver, right because it's gonna be
Jackson Smith and jigmun It's gonna be Cooper Cup as
long as he's right. Honestly, I think Horton's wide receiver
two in that offense, a couple operate out of the
slot and all that kind of stuff. But I mean,
your top four there in Seattle is Smith and Jagball, Horton, Cup,
and Bobo, And I mean, yeah, high hopes, high hopes
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for Tory Horton based.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
On what they saw at him this preseason.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, so that would be one of my by the way,
being of Indianapolis, I love aden I Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I've always loved Adie Mitchell, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's hard to predict for him, especially with that receiving corps.
I know what Tyler Warren should be in that offense.
I don't know what Ada I'm Mitchell Ady Mitchell is
gonna be. But I love Tory Horton obviously CSU guy,
but I love him especially in that offense because once
they moved away from MVS, it really cleared the deck
for him to.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Be able to have a viable role.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, And I mean you go back and look, you
saw him make him plays in the preseason even if
you weren't up there at camp. Oh, I'm making plays
in those games. He's he's got something he special And
I think that he probably would have been drafted a
lot higher if it had him been the injury issues.
But congrats to the CSO product for going up there,
to going up there to Seattle and make a name
for himself.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So he's upset that I said, feels I'm just it
is what it is. It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Justin Fields is a great quarterback. He's not a great
NFL quarterback. He's a good quarterback. He's a terrible quarterback.
But for facing the worst quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Since Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Do you remember what I when you and I used
to go round a round on Jalen Hurts and how
you used to tell me how terrible of a quarterback
he is.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But I kept telling you I.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Said it was a bought in on it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Ben, I never used the word terrible then like I
have for Justin Fields. Then hold the audio.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It was so long, agoes on like reel to reel.
I'm telling you though that there was a time when
you and I would go round and round on how
much much more than I did? Yes, and you did
not think Remember I won the bad because you I
told you he was going to go one day two.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You said, there's no ways why he's gonna go on
day two. And then he went in the second round.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes, yeah, I sid he good drafting the day too,
So I ended up winning that. And then I said
he'd be a viable quarterback in the NFL. And I'm
not really out of the league. And yes, four years
were you more wrong than Devon Vley? Or that I
wasn't even wrong on Vail. That's the best part, is
I mean kinda it kind of you were wrong. I
mean you were wrong. I was wrong that somebody would
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trade for him, But.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, you were wrong, just being.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Wrong, and the meal with it. It's fine. I didn't
think anybody would pony that up for much. Still don't.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I was only wrong that the thing that happened wouldn't happen.
He said it wouldn't happen, and then it happened.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Only in that set was he wrong? Very narrow a
very narrow parameters just finally starting to get it as.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Long as we narrow in the scope of what is
considered wrong and honestly with the lower case W because
it's hard. G all right, let's get to the Riley
babs before people, whatever audience, whatever audience was left at
the best stuck around through soccer and fantasy football, we
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are grateful. Now let's talk about the secondary. I thought
Roley Muss had some really cool things to say today.
This one I thought was specific for you. What did
he learn last year, because honestly, the lasting memory of
Riley Moss was not a very positive one for a
lot of Broncos fans.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
This is what he said.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I think the biggest thing for me is going out
there with a clear mind and trust my training, not overthinking,
not guessing, just playing football and trusting my speed because
you know, there's little people out there that I think
can run by me, and it's just being able to
stay in my back Bet'll trust my eyes and go
out there. So I think my biggest thing is just
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in practice trying to simulate game, put a little bit
of pressure on myself so when it comes to game
time it's a lot easier and smooth.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's looked phenomenal out there, and he was asked about
the joint practice against the Arizona Cardinals when he actually
had to cover Marvin Harrison Junior, and he hung in there.
And we're talking about one of the best receiver route
runners in the league right now. And I know that,
you know, Marvin Harrison Junior hasn't maybe quite gotten to
the Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase level, but he's I
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think he can be that caliber receiver in the league.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And Riley Moss was tasked with covering him, and I
only saw one catch, like one catch that Marvin Harrison
had on Riley Moss the entire practice.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I think that's all I remember off the top of
my head.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
And Riley was there. It was just a probably a
good corner.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He would probably start on about a dozen teams in
this league at sebe one on about ten to a
dozen teams in this league. But he's two here because
we have passer ten. Riley Moss is that good like
this is not just the other guy that's over there
kind of thing. He's a good player and he's got
a recognition before I mean even you know, mister Taylor
Swift himself said you know a boy, that white corner
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they have I believe that's the exact quote. Yeah, that
other quarter they have the white guy, the white guy.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well, and because of that, I mean, you got you
gotta be You've got to be really, really good because
the fact is that that's exactly who teams are gonna
pick on because one your opposite pats are tan and
two yeah it is what and he knows look at
you know. That's what's so cool by the NFL. It's like, hey,
you you put up a shut up. I mean you
wait your you, you get out there and you beat
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that guy or we'll find somebody else.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
If then you got to re earn it every week.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And you gotta rearn it every single time you're on
the field, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
A couple of other things here from Riley Moss.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
This was great because I remember back in the pre
draft process we talked about Riley Moss. Obviously it's a
white corner. It's big discussion point was it Seahorn was
the last real and.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Real Jason Seahorn, real real uh Dustin, Yeah, there is
there is fox.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
A discussion naturally is will he be a safety at
the next level? Or will you be a corner? And
he maintained he wanted to be a corner, and the
Bronco was drafted to be a corner. And even on
draft night when we were doing the draft that night,
we said.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, I mean eventually, maybe he works in a safety.
I mean that that's an option.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It feels almost insulting now that we fast forward and
he's a really good corner and he's a really good
boundary corner. But here he was asked about the differences
and what he's sort of learned throughout that process.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, you know, I think just reps. You know, that's
kind of where I've always been at. And you know,
that was kind of my goal ever since I was
a kid, was kind of you know, we're going to
do this and and you know, whatever it takes, and
and so being fully bought in on the on the outside,
not to say that I can't play inside, because there
are situations where you know, the corner travels and I
got to play inside, So being able to do everything,
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but yeah, making sure I was solidified and on the outside.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, that's that's It's pretty much. But I mean the
thing is is, I think he's proven it at this point.
That's more of why I wanted to play. That is
I think he has proven it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We don't have those debates anymore. That's not a discussion
point on Riley.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Moss at all.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, I don't think it's been a discussion point or
shouldn't have been a discussion point since preseason last year.
I mean, we saw him in camp. We saw he
was beating the brakes off to Murray Mathis in that competition,
and for whatever reason, people were pitching it like it
was close or something it was then it was not,
you know, And so that's that's sort of the that
sort of thing. Rather, Moss is a good corner again,
he would start for ten, you know, ten to maybe
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maybe eleven twelve teams in this league at Cebee.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
One very quickly here and I have a feeling I
know who protected this in here five six, six, nine zero.
Put some respect on Justin Fields. Fields averaged eighteen point
nine fantasy points per game through the first six weeks
last season. If he did that for the whole year,
he'd be Fantasy quarterback eight, right between Bonix nine and
Jared Goff seven.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Okay, so the scoring in your league is broken cool.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Fat in your pipe. In's mode.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It is not reflective of real football where he was
so bad and they couldn't wait to pull him and
put an injured Russell Wilson in and watch the offense
take off, doubling his scoring average over the next four weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So for fantasy purposes, that's that's the point.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, all that tells me is that scoring is
broken in fantasy football. That's the only thing that tells me.
I'm not wrong. They're wrong, You're all wrong. What's the
how do I tell them they're all wrong? You know,
he's just standing in the corner.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
If Justin Fields is right, I don't want to be right, right,
I don't the field is the right answer to something.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
This was a good question to Riley Moss.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He was asked about because this is the first time
he's actually not had to fight for the job.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I mean, you have to earn it every week we
talked about it. He's still fighting for the job.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
He is, but he was penciled in, right, Okay, But
he didn't he started with the lead.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
He didn't start off as white guy corner.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
He didn't come in competing with tomar mathis he didn't
come in competing with really anybody. They just said, hey,
you're the guy. Continue to earn it, then you'll you'll
stay the guy. He's got the inside track. This is
the first time he's ever had that. And here's what
he had to say about it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah, I think, you know, the biggest thing and something
that I learned in college, you know, after starting my
freshman year, was you know, I kind of got comfortable, right,
you know, I got the spot, you know, and then
you know, I end up having a couple of bad
games and then you know, the spot's taken from you.
So I think the biggest thing is is not getting comfortable.
And you know, I'm glad I went through that in college.
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So now I know you know where I'm at now
is you know you've got to continue to attack every
day and not get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, there's as we just said, there's nothing for Riley
Moss to ever be comfortable about. And I'd say that
whether you're a white corner or just a cornerback. You
you said, for many years, we've talked about it, We've
interviewed guys. The mindset of a corner is is so unique.
I mean it really is. And he talked about, you know,
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sort of being a technician and you have to really
work on your the detail work and all those kinds
of things, but you also have a very short memory.
If we have discussed, and I'm marveled. There's so many
positions that are are interesting and difficult for their own
specific reasons. But the cornerback is one where you know
you're going to fail, you know you're going to get.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Eat and yet you still have to keep going back out.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
There knowing you might get beat again, and you just
don't want to let a snowball on you because that's
when you really can kind of lose your job. Teams
are going to accept that you're going to lose some matchups.
Nobody wins them all, even Pat certain doesn't win them all.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, but what you do.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
After that, and how can you impact the game, that's
that's kind of more what it's about. But like I said,
every position has their own unique set of challenges.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The cornerback one is always such an interesting one because
so much of it is mental. It is outside, and
it's a different kind of metal. It's psychological more than
it is you know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I would suggest that quarterback is it requires an intelligence
that would be considered fundamental intelligence, whereas playing corner is
more a psychological mental game like kicking or punting, you
know what I mean, where if you get in your
own head about stuff, it can be quick saying pretty quick,
you know, so yeah, I mean, and that's not to
say that corners aren't smarter whatever else, you know, kind
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of stuff, but yeah, it really is probably one of
the most psychological positions on the field outside of kicker
upon her on the tageline.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Another wide right albright take on fields. I mean, congratulations,
you're wrong on justin fields. Dude, I don't know what
to tell you. Like the very dex text comes in
to defend you, says hilarious folks still clinging the fields.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Home boy cannot play Q to B TB. He can't.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I mean, he just can't. He's so bad.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This isn't like hurts where it's like, well, you know,
I don't think he's ever got to get it. This
is that dude can't play, you know, think I mean,
he's relatively still young in his career.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Don't you think he's not young in his career.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
He's on his third team in three years after getting
three years at the previous spot. I'm just excited for
my steak dinner. Like I can't sure, well, what diould
you even bet?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I can't remember what bet.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Justin Fields would have more touchdowns than Russ and more
wins than Russ.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I believe that. I think Russ is going to get benched,
shirly that part of my bet here.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Wins to stay healthy are tough, the wins are tough.
I don't know, but I don't think that just are
gonna be very good schedule that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That Giant's opening schedule. If Rus gets benched week seven,
they might be oh and six maybe.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So if US is always so, what's the best wins
I need Fields have?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
No, I was two separate bets.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Okay, so there is a wins bet Justin Fields, who
have more wins is starting quarterback than Russell Wilson. I
don't want you count of those Jackson Dart wins starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I would do that. Total touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm taking Justin Fields too.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I want to emphasize that total thing, because yeah, the
best thrower of the football, Justin Fields is not the
man He's gonna He's.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Gonna run them then, Pete. I mean best is still
over six the best.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
He's not a still over selling his ability to throw
the ball.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean, my average over two rushing touchdowns a game,
but he might average over one hundred yards passing game.
Wilson averaged two passing touchdowns a game in that offense
this year.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think they expect that.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Now will they get there? I don't know, but I
think they fect that.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You are you are the laps of a dying breed here,
like like defending Russell Wilson, not defending Russ.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean, he is what he is, but you you
are like so bought in to the idea that Russ
is still a viable starting quarterback. He's okay.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I mean you saw it last year that the Steelers,
I mean to be honest with you, they would have
they might have won that game if Pat FRYERMLTH could
hang on to the ball. Pat Fryar Ruth was wide
opening a ball hit him in the hands and he's like.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
No, don't want that, don't throw in his note hands.
Somebody to stay on the sideline screen.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I'm not saying that Russ is a world beater.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He's not at all pro, but he's certainly a serviceable
starter fields is not that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Tremendous athlete that feels fine can't play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There you go exactly. I've never I've never tried to
dog the guy at his athleticism. He's a great athlete
and he's not a great football player.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think the biggest concern for Riley Moss is not
his play, but more staying healthy for the whole year.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's great point, that's true.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I mean, you know, we started saw the issues last
year and when he when when the injury occurred, and
then he's play after the injury.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean it was not at the same level.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, all right, five six six nights Zero's okay with
Comma spirit Hill text, I will come back.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
We'll talk a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But Troy Franklin, I want to get into a conversation
about what to expect from him.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
We actually got a.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Question earlier asking whichd rather have Tory Harden or Troy Franklin.
I mean, fantasy purposes, is it's Tory right?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah? Okay, Well, I'll talk about Troy Franklin, what his
roll looks like this coming year. Get to a next
This is after four o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome back, Rod Edwards, Benjaminal Bride five six six nine
zeros O kay with common spray health text line.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Broncks wrapped up practice today.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
They got one more practice tomorrow and then I imagine
really won't hurt hear from them until Monday, and Sean
Payton might do something there as they kind to begin
their normal practice week. Get anywhere For the Tennessee Titans,
it's it's right around the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Zach haves me an interesting question earlier, and.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm I've been thinking about Jade Baron and perception and
part of this is coming on the heels of the
Caleb Blowner stuff. Watch everybody call him a bust because
he didn't make the original fifty three roster, which is
some of the dumbest click bait nonsense. But whatever, whatever.
Everybody's entitled to their opinion and that's what it is.
But if Jade Baron isn't the starter on day one,
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what are people saying?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Oh, they're freaking they're melting down, they're freaking out. I
mean that's you know, how people are. Whatever, the most extreme,
most unwarranted overreaction is that's what will happen, and I
don't think that's I don't think you need to do that.
First of all, Vance Joseph has a reluctance to play rookies.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
He just does.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
He makes you earn it, keep earning it, and earn
it some more. Uh, and then going intow year two,
we'll get you on the field. And we saw that
Riley Moss was a guy who he had some injury
stuff too, but he couldn't crack the field. And we
all see how good Riley Moss is. Vance Joseph has
a propensity to not trust rookies, and so I would
suggest that a Baron gets fewer snaps to this season
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than people think a first rounder should get.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's probably why it's it's a bit unfair. But you
know how this works.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You get compared to the players that were drafted right
behind you, especially when you're a first rounder, like because you,
I guess ostensibly could have drafted any of those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Soon.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Omrion Hampton, for example, if he goes and has a
Pro Bowl season or a Rookie of the Year kind
of season out there with the LA Chargers, there are
gonna be a lot of Broncos fans that talk about
that and now fair or not because they're playing different positions,
they're in different situations, but it's just sort of what
it is. You know, you had a very good secondary
already and a lot of Broncos fans were very keenly
(02:11):
aware of that, and then you added a guy to
it that has to sort of crack that very talented secondary.
And I actually appreciate not even just saying this because
we've broadcast against.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I appreciate the slow role on it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I appreciate not forcing him out there and potentially ruining
his confidence.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I think the last thing you want to do.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And we have seen that by the way, tomorry mathis
where you have seen where you put guys out there
because you didn't have a choice, and maybe at some
point in the season you won't have a choice but
to force him out there at the beginning of the season,
just to check the box of we started our first
round pick so that the fans feel as though that
was good value.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That would be a.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Mistake, Yeah, and that you you what's the old saying,
you listen to fans, you gotta wind up sitting with them,
like you know, the advance Joseph is and Sean Bayden
are always coaching for their jobs, so they're not going
to deliberately do something to recap the team in most situations,
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like there might be something where, you know, you get
a specific situation, you might want to do something that
kind of for the most part, they're not going to
do something that results in a negative, right, So, yeah,
he's not just gonna not play. He's got a Barron,
you know, to the detriment of the team. Now, he'll
make He'll make a rookie do extra to earn it,
you know. But yeah, I and I still think Baron
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will probably wind up being the starting nickel, if not
to start the season, at least at some point. Well,
and you can get him on some dime packages. I
mean there's some yeah you're gonna see. And he likes
to play dive. Vance loves to play dome. So the
idea that you could have both him and Ja Kwan
running dual slots and move a safety down as a dimebacker,
run those kind of packages that Advance wants to run,
those exotic looks that he wants to run.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I think he'll see play of that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And if he's given an opportunity to make some highlight
reel kind of plays if I not even just say one,
like if he makes one or two, like game changing
kind of places. Doesn't have to be the end all
be all, kind of like pick six stuff, but like
a couple of PBUs in high leverage situations, Broncos fans
will love him like almost.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It's amazing how quickly that can change.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just think right now for Jaday barn And it's
a bit of a difficult thing. Being in the right
place and communicating with your team doesn't quite grab the
headlines as much as Hey, you know, Jade Baron's for
the first three preseason games has an interception each each
game like that, right there, we'd be having Rookie of
the Year conversations defensive MVP. I mean, people losing their
(04:36):
minds about the draft pick. But instead it's, well, he
made a really good tackle and he was in the
right position, and the coaches really like him because he
communicates really well and they feel like they can trust
him out on the field.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That doesn't grab the headlines.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, it's I mean again, it's so much of what
you're out there now is all rage bait type stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Anyway, you know, it's all clickbait.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Rage bait is designed to get your interaction and your
reaction instead of just telling you what it is.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And you're right, I think that being a.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Good player without having any splash plays doesn't generate the
clicks and the hits and the you know, all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think some people also wrote off Jque, and maybe
I did to asserting as well, wrote off Jque a
little early, call it ambuletce, but not for me, right right,
But it's hard because your lasting memory was Riley Moss
being banged up. The safeties, especially PJ having a tough
(05:33):
time and Jaquan having a bit of a tough time,
and it's like it's like we talk about with the
offensive line, sometimes you're only really as strong as your
weakest link.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, and if.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Your safety PJ Lock, who's dealing with the back injury
at that time, was struggling, well, then of course you're
Nichol's gonna pbably struggle and Riley Moss is also struggling.
I mean, there's just gonna be so many breakdowns because
there's only so many ways to cover it. Yeah, if
those if that many guys are dealing with stuff, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
And that's I mean, and that's that's the thing. Defense
is it's like the chain, right, any chain is only
as strong as his weakest link, and and and that's
the that's the way that it goes. So if you
are you know, and I think that's part of the
reason they wanted to do that. You've seen a propensity
for the Broncos to draft on strength.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Before John Away did it for years.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, Jake Quan, you know, I think he's a serviceable
starter in this league.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I do.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I think that they felt like they united upgrade there
in order to be able to do some things they
want to do. But having the depth there too matters.
And getting a player that you had graded out as
a top ten guy in this draft another corner. You know,
we saw what that can do, having three four great corners.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We saw what that could do.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
We saw that in Super Bowl fifty. So anybody who's
sitting there banging the drama of all it's a bust
or whatever on guys who haven't played a snap in
the NFL yet, is an idiot. I mean that you're
an idiot. Just you can and you could take this
clip and send it to him.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You're an idiot. Well, they do clip segments show.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's the thing. I appreciate all the
extra downloads. Yeah, I'm just saying that's what we do.
I don't care if the love downloads or hate downloads.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll take him. Three D chests by the way.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Real quick, congratulations Delton Reisner former Broncos timing with the
Bengal is fulfilled.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
How many years?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So where was that draft twenty nineteen? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So in case people forgot, the Broncos had they had
the two first the two second round picks.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
They had one second round pick, and they traded They
traded back ten right to uh twenty to twenty to
get No.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
A Pittsburgh. Yeah yep. And then they took no offense.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And then they moved up in the second round and
what they but before they did, they they drafted Dalton
Riisener with that first pick and then told they told
Cincinnati what they're gonna do, like, We're draft Dalton Riisner
because they knew Cincinnati was gonna draft him. So they
drafted Dalton Reisner, agreed to the trade with Cincinnati and
got Drew Lock with the picker right after that because
Cincinnati was going to draft Dalton Reisner.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So if they would have said we're drafting Drew Locke,
Cincinnati'd be like, no, sorry, we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Keep a pick.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So yeah, so they knew they got some into from
somewhere and they turned around and they went ahead and
doubled up there. And then it's remarkable, I mean, the
razor's edge of some of these things, of these deals
and the information exchange and where it comes from to
where it actually comes from, it's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
You know, how does Javonte Williams even get here? But
it's a little inside. But that's the point one.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, yeah, but the point the point of it is
is like they wouldn't have framed it that way because
Cincinnati wanted Dalton Reisner. Then yeah, then they would have
ended up with maybe not getting Dalden Reiser. They would
have just had Drew Lock or yeah, or maybe Dalden
Reisner and not Drew Lock. I guess to that point,
if they would have said, we're not telling you, then
Cincinnati's like, oh, just we're gonna stay put them.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, So that I mean, they didn't see all the
deal with Cincinnati's after they officially selected, right, so they
just told him ahead of time to get the ball rolling. Well,
if we take your guy, here, are you willing to
move this pick? We'd like to get in, you know
that kind of thing. And then they knew they were
taking their guys.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
And now Noah Fan, Dalton Reiser, and Drew Lockhart somewhere else.
No Fan actually with Cincinnati remark right, Drew locked back
in Seattle, or.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
We gonna have a October to remember.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't know, maybe a Drew Simber to remember. It
just depends on Darnold.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I guess sometimes I lead into the JAD jokes just
to just to make you feel good.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
If you're just.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
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like you have in your car. You can set us
as a preset that we never missed any episode of
the show. There was a report out from practice. I
was out there earlier, so I did see this, but
it was must have been after I left. Marvin Mims
left practice today, but Sean Payton, via a pool report,
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let the media know out there that he left with
a groin injury. And it's quote not overly. They're not
overly concerned about Marvin Mims, which is a massive sigh
of relief because of how much he means to wide
receiver recorps as well as the returners.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, you know sources. Basically, he pulled up and then
was helped off by trainers.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Didn't go down. It was helped off by trainers.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So maybe maybe he just felt a little something there
and a more of a precaution thing, as they certainly
didn't have to call the card out or a stretch
or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, they were doing pretty Again, I can't describe
what we saw practice. We're not allowed to do that,
especially since Seawan didn't talk lighter practice. It was a
lighter I mean they were, Yeah, it was. It was
barely a jog if you will. So, yeah, so maybe
they were. They ramp some things up towards the end
of practice that I didn't know and see, but what
they were doing early felt like.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Something that they probably could make it through. But here
we go. That that is the news you said you
wanted to give a.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I want to shout out there. I don't get
to do this very often. I want to shout out
some British soccer here real quick.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Grimsby Town FC.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Has just defeated Manchester United in the Carabo Cup. And
for those of you who don't understand what that means,
Manchester United is an English Premier League soccer team.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They play in a stadium that seats eighty thousand.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
To put that in perspective, Town is a fourth tier
British soccer club whose stadium capacity is just over eight thousand,
slightly smaller than my high school stadium.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And that is, I mean, that is.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
An absolutely phenomenal like this is this would be like
a minor league. This would be like the backups on
a UFL team beating the Denver Broncos. To put that
in perspect I mean, it would be like the backups
on a UFL team beating an NFL franchise in a game.
I mean is it's a stunning development for one of
the premier soccer leagues in the world. And also, you know,
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hats off to Grimsby Town, who's a nobody soccer team
in the middle of a small town on the seashore
in England. I think there's twenty thousand people in that
town if I remember correctly.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Congratulations you. You've been doing a lot more soccer stuff, right,
even on BCT.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I mean, I wouldn't say we do a lot, but
I you know, I've become a fan over the last
couple of years. Somebody put me on to soccer when
they talked about how Eric Spolster had brought Chip Kelly
into the discuss spacing concepts and and sort of put
me on to this genius soccer coach in Spain. And
ever since then, I've kind of become a fan.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Are you like up, Are you such a fan that
you're up at like three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I have the subscription to the Liga on my on
my espen, I do actually have the subscription, but I'm
not up.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I'm not watching it, you know at two three in
the morning with somebody says, man you is playing eighteen
year olds?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Dude, man you was playing. I mean they had Manchester
United had incredible players. This is the Caramel Cup is
a is a tournament that allows people for different levels
to go compete and all that kind stuff. Yeah, they
had some guys out there that were younger, but it's
still Manchester United. It's still one of the premier soccer
clubs in the world and they got beat by somebody
who has a team that has a stadium capacity of
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eight thousand.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
The co excited you are.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
We always love it when the underdog wins one.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I just like you know, I like seeing you inspired
by things, Ben, and on occasion so many times you
coming here. My motivation is wearing all black and it
just seems like you're so down about everything and just
mourning everything. You know, somebody's asking for fantasy sleepers. I'll
tell you what we will sepside News of traffic here
at bottom of the hour, we'll get to Riley Moss.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It's some really interesting things about to.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Say about the depth of the secondary, playing outside versus inside.
Cause you remember when he was coming out as a
as a draft pick, there was a discussion whether he
should be a safety or should be an outside corner.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Get a good answer on that. So we'll hear from
Riley Moss.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
We'll talk a little about the secondary, but we'll give
you the listener there a fantasy sleeper.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Ben's got one, I got one. We'll do that next.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's probably the most soccer we've ever talked on the station.
Of course, Ben Albright' here can really go in a
lot of different directions. Somebody asked, as a lifelong Grimsby
Town fan, ask you if it was on esp and
the ohow, that's good. They're gonna make a movie about
that club now they might.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean, it's it is. It's pretty insane.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Grimsby Town's total payrolls about three point one million pounds
per year, which is less than twenty players individual players
that Manchester United has signed.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You're kind of a nerd. I'm just saying I like
that about you.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Though, menu has thirty one players, twenty of them nine
of them are backups. Nine backups for Manchester United make
more than the entire.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Team of Grimsby Town.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
All right, So before you get to Riley Moss, we
promised one of our listeners here because he wants they
I should say they want a sleeper in fantasy football?
Do you want to go first? If you say b
Jhon Robinson, you really just would I mean Saquon Barkley obviously?
Would you know?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I think there are I guess it depends on what
you mean by sleeper. Is this somebody that you're drafting
as a starter, but most people are overlooking them, or
is it somebody you're taking a flyer on for later
in the years, more of.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
A developmental player that could end up popping. I don't
one that you should say, because you've told me about him,
is Chris Rodriguez.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, that's the direction I was going. Eckler's to lead
back there, and I know all the fantasy guys are
on Krossky Merritt, but Meret's the third string back there
and very much the third string back there. Rodriguez will
get all the goal line, short yards work stuff like that.
Eckler will get a lot of the passes. So I
don't know that Krosky Merritt, affectually known as Bill is
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really going to be as viable I think as a
lot of people thinking that, oh, like a sixth round
right now, which is absurd, absolutely absurd.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And now I gotta be careful here because we still
have a draft coming up on Monday.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well we've already been through a draft, though, so we
sort of know what each other thinks.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I know, but I also you know, there's some guys
that I might end up taking.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
But okay, yes, Chris Rodriguez, that's one. Oli Gordon. I
think if you're on Oli Gordon this year. That's want
to keep your eye as well. Yeah, oligoron and I
mean the talent.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's remarkable how just two years ago he's considered the
best running back in the country and in college football obviously.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And then they start stacking the box, he said.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Then he like has a bit of a down year
and then you get into this draft. That was load
of his running back talent. He just sort of gets left,
you know, forgotten. But if you remember von A Change
was a third round pick. Now he's going in the
first round. I'm saying in real draft he was a
third round pick. He is a fantasy superstar, but is
also a guy that deals with injuries. And yeah, I
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think all A Garden and Jalen right by the way,
is already banged up, would be ostensibly his backup, right.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
So yeah, he's probably we're gonna be the backup early
and might have a chance, with the history of injury
of those two players, to work himself into a very
productive role.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Those are good ones, So for our listener, hopefully you
like those.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I will offer just two for fun.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Sake, justin field, how that mic off, I'm cutting your
mic Off. I will pull I will pull the plug.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You know me too well. We have known each other
for too long. I will pull the plug. Listen a show.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Justin Fields that his adp he could be a top
ten field sucks.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He's so bad. But for fantasy football purposes, Ben.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Unless you get a bonus for you know, skipping the
ball to your receiver, even those rushing yards are not
gonna be enough.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
If you get a hundred rushing yards per game, which
he might actually do running for his life. You get
bonuses in most leagues for one hundred rushing yards, and
he's gonna run in the touchdowns. He's like Jalen Hurts, right,
He's just gonna He's gonna run into every single touchdown.
He could be a top ten fantasy quarterbacking. You don't
want to hear it, but it's the truth.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There's if he is a top ten quarterback in your league,
your league scoring system is broken.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Drink, Okay, so I'll do I'll do it more serious. Fine,
Uh might be.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
The worst quarterback I've seen in years.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I really like Tyler Warren a lot I've been telling you,
but quite a bit. I think I think for the
tight ends is kind of the top four or five
guys that will go relatively early in drafts. Travis Skales
can be fascinating to watch for fantasy purposes and again
for all the people that are like, oh my god, fantasy,
we will be moving off this to promise just two
seconds back to back with soccer, I got imagine Dave
(18:18):
Logan listening is like, what is going on? I leave
for a few minutes. It was soccerat and fantasy football?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You killing me?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Anyways, Tyler Warren, I'm a really big fan.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think going with Daniel Jones is only going to
help him, and obviously liked what he did in college.
If you watch him in the preseason, he's he's got
basically the same kind of role. He's going to be
a checkdown guy, and I think in PPR stuff he's
going to have a pretty major role. So I like
Tyler Warren if you want to go a deeper sleeper.
I didn't mean to say like that, but I did.
Tory Horton up in Seattle MVS is gone.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
He was the guy that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Was really kind of in Tory Horton's way of potentially
being a viable player.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You have him really.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Late in most drafts, and he's gonna get out there
as the third wide receiver, right because it's gonna be
Jackson Smith and jigmun It's gonna be Cooper Cup as
long as he's right. Honestly, I think Horton's wide receiver
two in that offense, a couple operate out of the
slot and all that kind of stuff. But I mean,
your top four there in Seattle is Smith and Jagball, Horton, Cup,
and Bobo, And I mean, yeah, high hopes, high hopes
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for Tory Horton based.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
On what they saw at him this preseason.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, so that would be one of my by the way,
being of Indianapolis, I love aden I Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I've always loved Adie Mitchell, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's hard to predict for him, especially with that receiving corps.
I know what Tyler Warren should be in that offense.
I don't know what Ada I'm Mitchell Ady Mitchell is
gonna be. But I love Tory Horton obviously CSU guy,
but I love him especially in that offense because once
they moved away from MVS, it really cleared the deck
for him to.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Be able to have a viable role.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, And I mean you go back and look, you
saw him make him plays in the preseason even if
you weren't up there at camp. Oh, I'm making plays
in those games. He's he's got something he special And
I think that he probably would have been drafted a
lot higher if it had him been the injury issues.
But congrats to the CSO product for going up there,
to going up there to Seattle and make a name
for himself.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So he's upset that I said, feels I'm just it
is what it is. It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Justin Fields is a great quarterback. He's not a great
NFL quarterback. He's a good quarterback. He's a terrible quarterback.
But for facing the worst quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Since Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Do you remember what I when you and I used
to go round a round on Jalen Hurts and how
you used to tell me how terrible of a quarterback
he is.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But I kept telling you I.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Said it was a bought in on it.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Ben, I never used the word terrible then like I
have for Justin Fields. Then hold the audio.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It was so long, agoes on like reel to reel.
I'm telling you though that there was a time when
you and I would go round and round on how
much much more than I did? Yes, and you did
not think Remember I won the bad because you I
told you he was going to go one day two.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You said, there's no ways why he's gonna go on
day two. And then he went in the second round.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes, yeah, I sid he good drafting the day too,
So I ended up winning that. And then I said
he'd be a viable quarterback in the NFL. And I'm
not really out of the league. And yes, four years
were you more wrong than Devon Vley? Or that I
wasn't even wrong on Vail. That's the best part, is
I mean kinda it kind of you were wrong. I
mean you were wrong. I was wrong that somebody would
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trade for him, But.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, you were wrong, just being.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Wrong, and the meal with it. It's fine. I didn't
think anybody would pony that up for much. Still don't.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I was only wrong that the thing that happened wouldn't happen.
He said it wouldn't happen, and then it happened.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Only in that set was he wrong? Very narrow a
very narrow parameters just finally starting to get it as.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Long as we narrow in the scope of what is
considered wrong and honestly with the lower case W because
it's hard. G all right, let's get to the Riley
babs before people, whatever audience, whatever audience was left at
the best stuck around through soccer and fantasy football, we
(22:04):
are grateful. Now let's talk about the secondary. I thought
Roley Muss had some really cool things to say today.
This one I thought was specific for you. What did
he learn last year, because honestly, the lasting memory of
Riley Moss was not a very positive one for a
lot of Broncos fans.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
This is what he said.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
I think the biggest thing for me is going out
there with a clear mind and trust my training, not overthinking,
not guessing, just playing football and trusting my speed because
you know, there's little people out there that I think
can run by me, and it's just being able to
stay in my back Bet'll trust my eyes and go
out there. So I think my biggest thing is just
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in practice trying to simulate game, put a little bit
of pressure on myself so when it comes to game
time it's a lot easier and smooth.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's looked phenomenal out there, and he was asked about
the joint practice against the Arizona Cardinals when he actually
had to cover Marvin Harrison Junior, and he hung in there.
And we're talking about one of the best receiver route
runners in the league right now. And I know that,
you know, Marvin Harrison Junior hasn't maybe quite gotten to
the Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase level, but he's I
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think he can be that caliber receiver in the league.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And Riley Moss was tasked with covering him, and I
only saw one catch, like one catch that Marvin Harrison
had on Riley Moss the entire practice.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I think that's all I remember off the top of
my head.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
And Riley was there. It was just a probably a
good corner.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
He would probably start on about a dozen teams in
this league at sebe one on about ten to a
dozen teams in this league. But he's two here because
we have passer ten. Riley Moss is that good like
this is not just the other guy that's over there
kind of thing. He's a good player and he's got
a recognition before I mean even you know, mister Taylor
Swift himself said you know a boy, that white corner
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they have I believe that's the exact quote. Yeah, that
other quarter they have the white guy, the white guy.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well, and because of that, I mean, you got you
gotta be You've got to be really, really good because
the fact is that that's exactly who teams are gonna
pick on because one your opposite pats are tan and
two yeah it is what and he knows look at
you know. That's what's so cool by the NFL. It's like, hey,
you you put up a shut up. I mean you
wait your you, you get out there and you beat
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that guy or we'll find somebody else.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
If then you got to re earn it every week.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
And you gotta rearn it every single time you're on
the field, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
A couple of other things here from Riley Moss.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
This was great because I remember back in the pre
draft process we talked about Riley Moss. Obviously it's a
white corner. It's big discussion point was it Seahorn was
the last real and.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Real Jason Seahorn, real real uh Dustin, Yeah, there is
there is fox.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
A discussion naturally is will he be a safety at
the next level? Or will you be a corner? And
he maintained he wanted to be a corner, and the
Bronco was drafted to be a corner. And even on
draft night when we were doing the draft that night,
we said.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, I mean eventually, maybe he works in a safety.
I mean that that's an option.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It feels almost insulting now that we fast forward and
he's a really good corner and he's a really good
boundary corner. But here he was asked about the differences
and what he's sort of learned throughout that process.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Yeah, you know, I think just reps. You know, that's
kind of where I've always been at. And you know,
that was kind of my goal ever since I was
a kid, was kind of you know, we're going to
do this and and you know, whatever it takes, and
and so being fully bought in on the on the outside,
not to say that I can't play inside, because there
are situations where you know, the corner travels and I
got to play inside, So being able to do everything,
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but yeah, making sure I was solidified and on the outside.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, that's that's It's pretty much. But I mean the
thing is is, I think he's proven it at this point.
That's more of why I wanted to play. That is
I think he has proven it.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We don't have those debates anymore. That's not a discussion
point on Riley.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Moss at all.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, I don't think it's been a discussion point or
shouldn't have been a discussion point since preseason last year.
I mean, we saw him in camp. We saw he
was beating the brakes off to Murray Mathis in that competition,
and for whatever reason, people were pitching it like it
was close or something it was then it was not,
you know, And so that's that's sort of the that
sort of thing. Rather, Moss is a good corner again,
he would start for ten, you know, ten to maybe
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maybe eleven twelve teams in this league at Cebee.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
One very quickly here and I have a feeling I
know who protected this in here five six, six, nine zero.
Put some respect on Justin Fields. Fields averaged eighteen point
nine fantasy points per game through the first six weeks
last season. If he did that for the whole year,
he'd be Fantasy quarterback eight, right between Bonix nine and
Jared Goff seven.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Okay, so the scoring in your league is broken cool.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Fat in your pipe. In's mode.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It is not reflective of real football where he was
so bad and they couldn't wait to pull him and
put an injured Russell Wilson in and watch the offense
take off, doubling his scoring average over the next four weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So for fantasy purposes, that's that's the point.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I mean, all that tells me is that scoring is
broken in fantasy football. That's the only thing that tells me.
I'm not wrong. They're wrong, You're all wrong. What's the
how do I tell them they're all wrong? You know,
he's just standing in the corner.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
If Justin Fields is right, I don't want to be right, right,
I don't the field is the right answer to something.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
This was a good question to Riley Moss.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He was asked about because this is the first time
he's actually not had to fight for the job.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I mean, you have to earn it every week we
talked about it. He's still fighting for the job.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
He is, but he was penciled in, right, Okay, But
he didn't he started with the lead.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
He didn't start off as white guy corner.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
He didn't come in competing with tomar mathis he didn't
come in competing with really anybody. They just said, hey,
you're the guy. Continue to earn it, then you'll you'll
stay the guy. He's got the inside track. This is
the first time he's ever had that. And here's what
he had to say about it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Yeah, I think, you know, the biggest thing and something
that I learned in college, you know, after starting my
freshman year, was you know, I kind of got comfortable, right,
you know, I got the spot, you know, and then
you know, I end up having a couple of bad
games and then you know, the spot's taken from you.
So I think the biggest thing is is not getting comfortable.
And you know, I'm glad I went through that in college.
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So now I know you know where I'm at now
is you know you've got to continue to attack every
day and not get comfortable.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, there's as we just said, there's nothing for Riley
Moss to ever be comfortable about. And I'd say that
whether you're a white corner or just a cornerback. You
you said, for many years, we've talked about it, We've
interviewed guys. The mindset of a corner is is so unique.
I mean it really is. And he talked about, you know,
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sort of being a technician and you have to really
work on your the detail work and all those kinds
of things, but you also have a very short memory.
If we have discussed, and I'm marveled. There's so many
positions that are are interesting and difficult for their own
specific reasons. But the cornerback is one where you know
you're going to fail, you know you're going to get.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Eat and yet you still have to keep going back out.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
There knowing you might get beat again, and you just
don't want to let a snowball on you because that's
when you really can kind of lose your job. Teams
are going to accept that you're going to lose some matchups.
Nobody wins them all, even Pat certain doesn't win them all.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, but what you do.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
After that, and how can you impact the game, that's
that's kind of more what it's about. But like I said,
every position has their own unique set of challenges.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
The cornerback one is always such an interesting one because
so much of it is mental. It is outside, and
it's a different kind of metal. It's psychological more than
it is you know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I would suggest that quarterback is it requires an intelligence
that would be considered fundamental intelligence, whereas playing corner is
more a psychological mental game like kicking or punting, you
know what I mean, where if you get in your
own head about stuff, it can be quick saying pretty quick,
you know, so yeah, I mean, and that's not to
say that corners aren't smarter whatever else, you know, kind
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of stuff, but yeah, it really is probably one of
the most psychological positions on the field outside of kicker
upon her on the tageline.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Another wide right albright take on fields. I mean, congratulations,
you're wrong on justin fields. Dude, I don't know what
to tell you. Like the very dex text comes in
to defend you, says hilarious folks still clinging the fields.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Home boy cannot play Q to B TB. He can't.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I mean, he just can't. He's so bad.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
This isn't like hurts where it's like, well, you know,
I don't think he's ever got to get it. This
is that dude can't play, you know, think I mean,
he's relatively still young in his career.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Don't you think he's not young in his career.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
He's on his third team in three years after getting
three years at the previous spot. I'm just excited for
my steak dinner. Like I can't sure, well, what diould
you even bet?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I can't remember what bet.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Justin Fields would have more touchdowns than Russ and more
wins than Russ.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I believe that. I think Russ is going to get benched,
shirly that part of my bet here.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Wins to stay healthy are tough, the wins are tough.
I don't know, but I don't think that just are
gonna be very good schedule that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That Giant's opening schedule. If Rus gets benched week seven,
they might be oh and six maybe.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So if US is always so, what's the best wins
I need Fields have?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
No, I was two separate bets.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Okay, so there is a wins bet Justin Fields, who
have more wins is starting quarterback than Russell Wilson. I
don't want you count of those Jackson Dart wins starting quarterback.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I would do that. Total touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I'm taking Justin Fields too.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I want to emphasize that total thing, because yeah, the
best thrower of the football, Justin Fields is not the
man He's gonna He's.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Gonna run them then, Pete. I mean best is still
over six the best.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
He's not a still over selling his ability to throw
the ball.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I mean, my average over two rushing touchdowns a game,
but he might average over one hundred yards passing game.
Wilson averaged two passing touchdowns a game in that offense
this year.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think they expect that.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Now will they get there? I don't know, but I
think they fect that.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
You are you are the laps of a dying breed here,
like like defending Russell Wilson, not defending Russ.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I mean, he is what he is, but you you
are like so bought in to the idea that Russ
is still a viable starting quarterback. He's okay.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I mean you saw it last year that the Steelers,
I mean to be honest with you, they would have
they might have won that game if Pat FRYERMLTH could
hang on to the ball. Pat Fryar Ruth was wide
opening a ball hit him in the hands and he's like.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
No, don't want that, don't throw in his note hands.
Somebody to stay on the sideline screen.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I'm not saying that Russ is a world beater.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
He's not at all pro, but he's certainly a serviceable
starter fields is not that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Tremendous athlete that feels fine can't play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
There you go exactly. I've never I've never tried to
dog the guy at his athleticism. He's a great athlete
and he's not a great football player.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I think the biggest concern for Riley Moss is not
his play, but more staying healthy for the whole year.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's great point, that's true.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I mean, you know, we started saw the issues last
year and when he when when the injury occurred, and
then he's play after the injury.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean it was not at the same level.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, all right, five six six nights Zero's okay with
Comma spirit Hill text, I will come back.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
We'll talk a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
But Troy Franklin, I want to get into a conversation
about what to expect from him.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
We actually got a.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Question earlier asking whichd rather have Tory Harden or Troy Franklin.
I mean, fantasy purposes, is it's Tory right?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah? Okay, Well, I'll talk about Troy Franklin, what his
roll looks like this coming year. Get to a next
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