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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You can be thrown out the first pitch here in
a little over an hour, five six six million zeros
or key with common Spirit health text line Bitjamin all Bright,
Nick Ferguson back in studio, hanging out with me this afternoon,
and I appreciate it. Even though people are saying, hey,
don't fight, don't fight, We're not fighting. We're just a disagreeing.
We're debating, and that's something that happens. One of the
things that I love about live radio I think that
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you guys do too, is most of the time we
have not talked about these topics ahead of time. So
I have a certain way I'll maybe approach it. They
have a certain way, and then you guys get to
hear what is a very organic discussion on a topic.
So no, I wasn't fighting with the guys in the
last segment, but if you want to think I was fighting,
you can go back and listen to the podcast. Completely
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free and totally awesome. My Heart Radio app on.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Vamped Yeah, and during the break Ryan convinced us all
to come around to his point of view and in
no way threatened our jobs or anything of the sort.
So Ryan, we totally one percent changed our one hundred
needed a degree view on things, and you were absolutely right, sir.
I'm not gonna say say that you're in a actually
handsome individual.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm grateful, I'm grateful, and Alessen, I'm not gonna say
that you'll never be invited back on the show. But
I'm not not saying that. I just wait a.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Minute, did you just use a double negative?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Maybe? Listen, man, I k about an hour away for
a first pitch.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Here we're gonna get this guy referraring to himself in
the third person before done.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You're gonna you're gonna have to give me some latitude
here for about an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, this is gonna mean that's not how this Ryan,
That's not how this works.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Well, step up to the mount?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah yeah, well, I mean in front of the mound.
They won't even let me on the mound.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But do you think they won't allow you on the mount?
I told you before they don't. They don't want that
mojo of them.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Man, It just a reserved for really important people.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And exactly said, why won't they allow you.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
On the mouse? Can you imagine like I'm like, listen, fellas,
uh I with all due respect, and I mean to
all due respect to your traditions, please take the tarp
off the mound. I'm I'm going up here now.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, first of all, yous, Ryan Edwards wouldn't say
that at all. You'd be like, get this bleep off
the mound. I'm throwing from up here, and if you
don't like it, you could send Thinger back in there
to go bring Dick Montfort out right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Now, can you imagine?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
But you gotta say it with the chest though, Yeah,
you gotta puff it out a little.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yes, you know what, Ryan, you know what you should do.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You should take a sharpie right pull pull the tart
ball and just sign the bam.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Just just sign it, y Ryan?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Would you sign the ball and toss it to the crowd,
just some kid. They're gonna throw it back at him.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That would be That would be the Channel shows.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
They go in the air, given the loft cap and
then he tosses the ball to the crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They fired back at him.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Pull the sharpie out of my sock. Sign it, oh man,
that would be clever. I am not that clever, so
I I did not think of that ahead of time.
Then if and when you get an opportunity to do
this maybe next year or ka wait day, maybe that's
something that you can do.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
There's no chance I'm ever invited to do any of that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, well, I tell yourself short, I think we all
have seen that.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Is trying to cut back on expenses. There's no way
they're paying that insurance premium.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Good point. That's a good point. That's a good point.
We probably think about five people should get a chance
for right, all right, so we'll get into the Bucks.
I want to talk about the Bucks com up at
five thirty. I want to get start back into that
is that that game is getting ready to happen in
a little under an hour. But I want to kind
of finish off a little bit of a Broncos conversation
from Sean Payton, and I have a question for you guys.
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All right, before we hear Sean Payton talking about the
play calling early in the season for Bonix, I have
a question kind of bouncing this around, uh, sort of
in my head, setting it tone for week one? Okay,
more important to set it on offense or on defense?
Week one? More important to set it on offense or defense.
When you're talking about the tone for the.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Season, I always defense, always the offense. I mean, you
you hope that they're better than they than they've been.
But in terms of setting the time, I mean, to me,
that's self defining. You're setting a tone. You're doing that
on defense, you can't see.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm totally different from being on that one. And for me,
it's like, no, you want to set it on offense? Well, now,
the reason, the reason being because we saw what this
defense could be sixty three SATs last season.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And when you think about a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Of the games that the Broncos were in, even though
Bowl threw some amazing passes, a lot of the defensive
effort kind of kept them in the game.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So we know what the defense is going to do.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
We know or we can expect the addition of tell
don't know Whu Funga to the Broncos defense, what that's
going to do. What we don't know is what the
run game is going to look like, because in preseason,
I don't know, we saw glimpses of what it might
look like, but we don't.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Know for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Right, and then you add Evan Ingram to get all
things clicking together offensively, Now, that would really bring a
lot of confidence to the Broncos fan base about what's
possible for this team and what they can actually achieve.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I'm with Nick on this. I feel like setting the
tone on offense early in the season would do wonders
not only for let's just take the fan base out
for two seconds, I think for the team. I think
knowing that because I think Nick's exactly right. I think
we know what the defense is capable of, we know
the talent lease on paper, and this isn't like, hey,
if one can be good and one is going to
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be bad. This is which side of the ball established
the establishes themselves, And so for me, it's it's pretty
clear that you'd love to see the offense establish themselves
very early on in the season and not be a
work in progress like we've had discussions about. Because the defense,
I think is going to be fine over the course
of the year. If the offense takes a while to
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find their footing and they don't set a tone for
themselves and for what the team can be, I think
that that could be problematic because season moves on.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I'm just the other way with this.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's like you want your strength, your strong unit to
go out and be your strong unit, showcase that and
the other unit.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
To come along.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know, if if the offense comes out lights it
up and the defense doesn't, then we're worried about the defense.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I mean, the narrative shift.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So for me, I'd rather just the defense comes out
and is dominant against you know, a rookie quarterback starting
on the road. Then the offense suddenly looking good against
the Tennessee Titans defense.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, see, that's putting too much pressure on Vance Joseph
and a defense to be perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I mean, if it's not pressure, real pressure is going
out and throwing the first pitch in front of twenty
five thousand people before a game.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, get in the rain.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, you absolutely own pressure, right with everyone there with
their phones.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
So I was wrong for comparing that.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I'm just saying it's real pressure. Lucky it's unluckily our guys.
I'm faced by that.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But yes, how many fans are going to be there tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Something like twenty five thousands, all of them with their
cameras pointed directly at.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Them over.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, you know what, I would hate to be the
guy that just couldn't finish the deal. I would hate
to say that, but anyway, I digress. But Ryan, I'm
with you for me the pressures on the Broncos offense
because we didn't really see a lot of flay it
from them.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Go back to the Saints game.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean, they had to have two possessions going forward
on fourth down, they needed a third possession to really
put the ball in the end zone. So I mean
for the fan base once again to feel confident, and
I think for you, Ryan Vers to feel confident, you
just need to go out and see this offense, go
out and dominate. And regardless of what Ben said about
them playing against the Tennessee Titans, you play who's on
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the schedule.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Can you go out there and can you dominate them?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's it, That's it and what it would mean I think,
and now I will include the fan base. What will
mean for the fan base too, Brian. I mean, there's
there's just a reverberation to say, Okay, what bon Nicks
could be capable of in the second year, we're seeing
it play out. We don't have to picture or imagine
it or hope it gets there. It's there now. And
then again with the run game, you said it perfectly
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what we saw in the preseason definitely didn't look good enough,
especially with the first team. If you come out and
you you put a to up one hundred and fifty
rushing yards and you look like you're controlling the line
of scrimmage, that changes, I think a lot of perceptions
and then probably even internally changes perceptions setting a ton
of defense. They're used to that. In fact, that's just
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kind of what they're supposed to do. Now, if you
go to the other side of that ben and you
say they don't set the tone and they are struggling, well,
that's a different conversation altogether. And I think that that's
where this is kind of a you know, we get
into a bit more nuanced discussion about what that actually means.
But I think the defense is going to be good.
And I guess if you're measuring to the best defense
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in the NFL, well, then I mean that's tall order
to ask. So maybe they don't set the tone as
the best defense, but they still could be a top five,
top ten unit early on.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right, Well, I think if you're struggling against rookie quarterback
in his first start on the road, to me, that
underminds the confidence of both sides of the ball. The
offense is looking at what's normally our rock and saying,
all right, fellas, we got a problem over here, and
and then the defense, you know how quickly they turned there.
I'm just go ahead and have your defense be your
be your star power, and then in your offense will
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get there eventually.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
That's that's that's the hope that you're running with.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, I dig it. Here's Sean Payton talking about play
calling for Bonix early in the season, and this was
kind of on I remember if the question was something
to the effect, is it is it help with bo
having the experience and the system and he seemingly has
sped up his processing and how much does that help
the play calling? Here's the answer. It's still the mass.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
And early in the season, be careful, there's not you know,
there's not too much.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Let's let's get to the things.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That we as a group offensively do well, the things
that he really feels comfortable with, and they'll be you know,
a few twists based each team has a different defensive structure.
But I think the mistake would be this large jump
and volume. And again, it's never about the amount, it's
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the details. Within each play, the details for Sutton Brian Frankly,
you know, it's the details with everyone, and so he
can move as that group can move. And so we
always talk about painting the picture for the queue. And
we might love a play and yet are we are
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we are we there yet at tight end or receiver
or we just got to make sure that we're moving.
We're still a young, a young, a young offense. We're
experienced in the offensive line. But I think that's that's
something that's important, especially early in the year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things to sort
of take away from that. But I was listening to
an interview Drew brew was doing. He was talking about Bonix.
He was talking about being in this offense, and he
sort of talked about like what you saw, maybe not
the tail end, but when you saw at the height
of the powers of the New Orleans Saints' offense, when
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Drew Brees and Sean Payton were kind of finishing each
other's sentences, he would say, He said in the interview,
there were times when I knew what Sean was gonna
call before he called it, and you were already kind
of in that same headspace. He said, it took years
to develop that we're like ways away from that. He
liked what he saw from Bow and I think that
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he was I don't think he was cautioning us, but
I think he was acknowledging like this is good, but
there's so much further this thing can go. And so
to Sean Payton's point there, like, yeah, yeah, bo Nix
is gonna take a step forward, and it's certainly nice
to be able to communicate with him on a different level,
but we probably should understand that the fireworks are still
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maybe a couple of years away. Did you get the
same message in that, Ben.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I mean, yeah, I guess it's just it all feels
like public relations in the I'm setting expectation here, but
then I'm backing them off over here, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
You know, you said he's gonna be a top whatever quarterback,
and all of a.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Sudden you say, well, it's going to be a little
why I don't just let the get play. Just let
the get play, you know, quick quit going out there
and trying to set ridiculous expectations and then minimizing them,
you know in the back end and all that kind
of Just let the kid play.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
What about you, Nick, Yeah, I think Ben is right
with this one.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I mean, let's not undermine the expectations of bow and
that's not set them overly too high.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let him go out.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
There and allow him to kind of, you know, set
this path himself. And the way you do that, you
just go out there and you execute. And both said it,
you know himself earlier this week when you when you
look at where he was last year, I mean, he
started to show improvement. He started to show that he
was a little ahead of the curve, right, but he's
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still was a rookie quarterback. He still had to learn
and understand the nuances of this particular offense. So allow
Bo to go out there and play and always go
back to things that I know and people have been
around and my time with Mike Shanahan and being under
pat Bowling, there was not a lot a lot of talk. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You just went out there and you just did your job.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And that's how you set the standard for yourself based
on your production.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No one's out there selling wolf.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Tickets, right. What I mean by that is that you say, Okay,
this is gonna happen, and we're gonna do this. No
expectations were high, but you had to go out there
and you had to prove it at a high volume.
So let bowl go out there and be Bo. And
what I mean by that me personally. Let that dude
play outside the pocket. He was one of the better
young players last year throwing on the run, which, by
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the way, guys, is very difficult to do, to run
to your right and throw a bomb almost sixty yards
down the field.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And we've seen do that.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
And I know some guys get caught up in this idea,
Well you got to be a pocket passer, And I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Like, well, yeah, that's kind of on keg. That's what
it was years ago. You don't have to be that way.
The game has changed.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Look out, look at how many mobile quarterbacks there are
in the you know, in this conference alone, the ANC
conference alone.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Let those guys do them.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Man, and then maybe you could do things here and
there the way that you want to. Because at the
end of the day, I don't care what position you
play as a player. Coaches coach players play in Shirley
his cheer. So you let that guy go out there
and be him.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is there anything Ben? Let me ask you this, Is
there anything that Bonnicks, and I guess you probably want
the whole season because people will move the goalposts. There's
anything that Bononix can show in week one that might
quiet some haters or maybe some of the people that
have been grinding the tape or using the advanced analytics
against him. He could show them that he has taken
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a step for Is there anything in week one or
is that something that's more of an ebb and flow
of the season.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I think it's an ebb and flow of the season thing.
You know, it's about body of work.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I mean, you're gonna have people hot taking whatever direction
they can after the first game anyway, Right, You're gonna
have people, you know, if he blows it up and
throws for four hundred yards, it's, oh, it's a second coming.
And if you have one hundred and eighty yards, oh
he's a bust. You're gonna have people doing all that
kind of stuff. It really is about the aggregate. It
really is about the body of work and the continued
maturation and all that kind of stuff. If you get
anything out of one game, you know, it's like comparing
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as a snapshot to a video. Right, a snapshot is
a moment in time, but it's not context for the
whole video, and the season is a whole video. So no,
there's not anything you can do in one game that
you're gonna have people on both sides that with their
hot taker and doing their hot take things.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, I agree with you, I do agree with you,
and I sort of let the witness anyways. But I
guess the other side of that, Nick is the processing, right,
because one of the things that's being held against him
a lot is with some of his numbers against pressure.
And you're right, he did a great job sot of
scrambling out of it and creating. But if he seems
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a little more poised, if it seems like the processing
goes a little faster, I mean, gosh, I get I
guess this is like a pretty low bar to clear.
But that first drive against New Orleans, when I think
you had the three place for negative two yards including
a delay, a game certainly got to clear that bar.
I mean, for being hoest, you gotta clear that bar.
But I think that they will do just find there.
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I'm just saying, like, if the processing seem faster, if
they're sending some blitzes and some stuff at him, and
he seems like he's handling it in a much more
efficient manner. Maybe those are some things that we can
glean from if you will, well, if you want.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I'm glad you brought up the blitz is up. Gonna
wait till next week to talk about this. But when
you look at the starting offense against blitz, is this preseason?
You can say, oh, well, if that's the preseason, the
team had a difficult time picking it up right, and
we saw what happened in the San Francisco game when
we saw a more danced version of it. In the
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game against the Saints, teams are going to blitter his
team because they want to get bow off his spot.
They want to see if he can go through his
progression reads, can he make those throws? But this is
why I feel as though getting him outside the pocket
serves him well because for me, when I think about football,
it's a game of mathematics, there are more guys between
the hashes than they are outside towards the numbers. So
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getting him out there when teams are trying to blitz
or getting someone flashed into the flat that allows him
to allows him to get the ball out of his
hands really quickly. But there's no doubt in me that
Bow can do what the Broncos actually need him to do.
He now has a supporting cast on the officer side
of the ball. He's got a defense that is going
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to help him and make him a lot better, both
in practice but also by turning the ball over giving
him more possessions. But it comes down to can you
run the ball and can't you stay committed to the
run have balance. See that's the major.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Question, no doubt, man. I am live here from Coursefield,
as we well, we're about about forty minutes away from
me throwing out a first pitch for the Rockies and Cubs.
It's gonna be fun's kaa night. We of course have
SEU football playing tonight up the road and folsom we'll
talk about that when we come back. O KAA Here
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at Course Field, I'm here to throw out the first
pitch coming up in about forty minutes. I say excited
about that, I am, but you know, as it gets closer,
I have to talk myself into those words a little
bit more. But I got Benjamin Albright, Nick Ferguson who
have been very complimentary and encouraging me. The entire way.
I appreciate both of them very much for everything that
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they've said as far as their advice throughout this entire prospect.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Do they have a police escorts to walk you down there,
you know that?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Or maybe they're gonna scort me out of the building.
I don't know. It's tough to say.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Obviously, we all saw the presidential motor key that took
you down to Coors Field today. I just didn't know
if there was a secret Service detachment there didn't in
the stadium for you, or if you know, if you
were just gonna just just willy nilly just kind of
walked down there and.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Hey, goes in here. That's exactly what we're saying. Hey, guys,
waves good round. Yeah, they put a microphone out there
in the middle of the field. I get to talk
to everybody and yeah, no, I they are gonna come
collect me here at six o'clock when we hand things
off to Jack and Jerry for the Rockies pregame, and
then yeah, I'll be down there shortly, and then I
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think we're gonna have some social media posts. By the way,
shout up to Connor Sreeve, who already posted a little
bit of a back and forth with me earlier talking
about tonight, and then we're gonna have some social media
posts a little bit later on on our social channels.
So it makes you go check that out quick man.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Hey, just go out there with a lot of coffe.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Evidence, right, like everybody knows that about me?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, I mean honestly, when people say Ryan Edwards, what
I think of is too much confidence, over confident, really
over I myself have never experienced this, but Ryan Edwards, Yes,
they're just oozing confidence.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well what is think Ryan?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, coaches like Bill Parcells would always tell me,
both he and Georgia Leary act like you've been there before,
and yeah there before me totally honest, you have been
here before. Yeah, right, this is not foreign territory for you.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You walk out there like you and just kind of like.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
I own the mound there it is, even though.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They're not gonna let you step on it. Still go
out there like I own the mound. Yes, and then
go ahead and distax some grass in front of it.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes, exactly, all right, I will I will effort on
that mindset.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Coming up here a little bit, I want to talk
about the see You game, because it's gonna get going
here about thirty minutes. Uh, just up the street from
us in Boulder. You know, Nick, I want to start
with the offensive line because you only have the one
returning offensive lineman and Seaton Uri did the offensive line.
What does that mean to you as far as expectations
for what they're going to do there in the run
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game and with pass pro.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well, the idea is, you want to be more physical.
You want to be more physical at the point attack.
And we watched Shador for the past few years and
how he ran around. Obviously it was better in year
two than it was.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
In year one.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So the ideas though, even though you don't have Shador
as Kayden Saltzer who is starting quarterback, you still want
to protect him. And idea is that they built this massive,
giant wall around them. And my thing is, even though
with height and girth and as robust as these guys.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Are, I want to see him move their feet. That's
the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Can you move your feet and can you move another man,
another human body off their spot and not do it?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
What once? Do it twice? And do it consistently.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
If the Buffs are able to do that to me,
they give themselves an opportunity because now you have a
balance attack. Now Pat Shermer can dig in his playbook.
Whatever he didn't run last year, he can now do.
Because when you think about being playing a quarterback position,
if the teams know that you can't run the ball,
all you gonna do is tell your defensive lineman just get.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Up field ten years back, just get up, just get
up field.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
He's gonna be sitting there at eight to nine yards
when you get there. So meeting at the quarterback, they
need to make sure that they throw Georgia Tech off balance.
And the best way you do it to kind of
get the quarterback in the officive line in the rhythm.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Screenplays as Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Sean Payton was like masterful at scheming up screen passes
and that's how you soften them up.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Then after you do that, now it's it's a game.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
But sometimes sometimes you and I go round and round
about what guys did at other schools or in any
other case with like Evan Ingram, what he did at
other teams, and what that will translate to the current team.
So let me ask you in terms of cadence P Salter,
So I mean as a sub sixty percent completion. Great
guy over his time there at Liberty, right fifty eight
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point seven. He obviously has a rushing ability. What when
when he transferred to see you, what do you think
coach Prime had in mind for his role as the
quarterback here?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, I think they want to continue running the offense
that they've run, which is a spread it out, you know,
sort of up tempo offense, and I think they think
that he can do that. He's a better athlete than
Shador was, although maybe certainly not as as accomplished as
a passer. You know, he had he didn't have what
thirty was it thirty two touchdowns two seasons ago Liberty.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I think it was on the in the area, yes, yeah,
he had thirty two and six interceptions, yeah, and then
you know the last year is fifteen and six, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Then another twelve on the ground and the thousand rushing yards.
I think if I rememor cry something like that, right,
he's you know, it's almost somewhere in the bullbark. He Yeah,
he's a good athlete. He's just a little bit different
player than Shador. Shador would use the athleticism that he
had to try to buy himself time to make a
play to Travis Hunter. Kayen Saltz is going to be
using as athleticism to pick up yardage, and so I
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think the offense that you had that might work out
a little better because you can see some draw action,
you know, out of him at times when they do
get upfield, when they do pin their ears back. If
you've got to clean enough pocket, especially between the a
gaps up there, then you can lurch forward and get
yourself some yardage that Shador would have tried to spin backwards,
get out the back of the kitchen and try to
make a play to Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You can just see Salter trying to get up field
and make plays.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's I know, Nick, you probably echo that. That's
one thing that and it's not like Pat Shermer was
coaching Shador up to do that. That was sort of
natural instinct stuff. And of course, when you have the
receiving core that they had, including Travis Hunter, the Heisman winner,
you're going to try to extend the play as much
as you can because you want to give your offense
a chance. But if there's something that you can remove
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from this offense from last year, almost immediately the amount
of sacks they took and the amount of really bad
sacks drive ending we're losing ten to fifteen yards at
a time, kinds of sacks. I agree with Ben. I
think Salter, from what I've seen of him, that that's
not what he's going to be doing out there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
No, and and once again, it sounds simple enough, but
it's different when you're under center and you're behind five
guys and you're expecting these guys to do their job.
And I understand what mobile quarterbacks think about. This is
why when you evaluate mobile quarterbacks, people will say.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well, if they hold the ball too long.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
The reason why they're holding the ball, they're trying to
buy time with the athleticism, hoping someone breaks fee down
the field.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And even though you run out behind.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
The line of scrimmage, that is technically a sack. And yes,
Chador would lose ground or gain ground. I watched Russell
Wilson and other quarter mobile quarterbacks do that in their
prime because they relied on their legs so much, and
that's not a bad thing. They know what is a
strength for them and they're trying to maximize it. The
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thing is, it becomes an issue when you're when you
can't do anything up front, and offensive line cannot establish
a run and you're constantly under pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And now that quarterback now has the press.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Now he's being forced to make plays where you're saying,
you know what, throw the ball away here, take the sack.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Take a page out of Peyton Manning's book.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
When it just seemed as though a guy a defenders
in your face, fall on the ground right and live
to play another day. But for mobile quarterbacks, that's not
how they're wired. Every single throw, on every single play
they think that they can make right, and some coaches
either you love it or you hate it. But if
you have a mobile quarterback, you gotta live and die
with that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
On defense, for just a second here, Ben Rob Linderson
got fourteen new transfers on the defensive side of the ball.
I mean, this is what college football is now, right,
And I thought there were some nice moments from the
defense last year. But you have turnover. You have turnover
every year, and that's just what it's going to be.
So you have to continue to sort of infuse talent
from everything I've read, and again we're gonna see it
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on the field coming up here in a little bit
everything I read, is there some optimist about how good
this defense could be too, Yeah, And.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I think that's that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's gonna be an instance where this defense is gonna
have to at times carry this offense. We talked about
Salter not being his prolific a passer. He will pick
you up fifty to sixty yards a game of his legs,
but not as accomplished the passers should or so.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You're gonna have third and long situations.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
He's not gonna bail you out of that said, this
defense is going to have to generate turnovers.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
They're going to have to be able to get stops.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They're gonna have to keep opposing, specifically in this game,
Georgia Tech from from getting these long drives that Georgia
Tech is very very capable of doing, and they love
doing that early because they comes they cash that in
late when you're worn out, because you've been on two
three long.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Drives in the first half.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
They cash that out late and they can go up
tempo on you if they need to. So this defense
is gonna have to generate a turnover at some point
in the game. Today, They're gonna have to get some
key stops and not allow these lengthy drives.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
How about you, Nick, what do you think about the defense?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, I mean there are some changes that have been
made in their defense and I think being around, you know,
livising for a while, I mean, he's gonna have those
guys ready to go. And one of the big issues
that see you had last year. It's funny enough they
couldn't run the ball and they couldn't really stop the ball.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Now when Charles Kelly that first year.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Things look wildly different last year on the limitsing than
they did with Charles Kelly the first year. So it's
about being bigger upfront and that's kind of one of
the emphasis that coach Brian wanted to talk about.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And they are big on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Can you get these guys to play together collectively in
the Rockets environment that.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You are creating. It's going to be really.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Interesting because I can tell you this from a defensive standpoint.
When you're playing at home, the crowd is going to
be really loud. Can I communicate to the guy across
the field? I mean I played in when it was
Invesco field and try to talk to John and Champ.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
They couldn't hear me, and there they were less than
five yards away from me.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
So can you manage that initial crowd surge in your
own energy to go out there and from a defensive standpoint,
you got to run out there and smacks someone in
the face early.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And cubs, it's Kaway night here. I'll be throwing out
the first pitch about twenty minutes. Very excited about that.
In the meantime, though, a couple minutes left five six,
six nine zero. Appreciate all the kind words. By the way,
on the text line people have been texting in all afternoon,
mostly good, mostly good, And there's a couple people that
have been acknowledging their trolling. But for everybody else that
has said encouraging things, whether on Twitter, on Facebook, Instagram, otherwise,
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I am grateful for it. I'm certainly gonna go out
there and try not to disappoint Dave Logan, Benjamin all Bright,
Nick ferguson my entire family k Away. You know, those
are the kinds of things that I think we're ultimately
aiming for tonight. But very excited about the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
We have.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
The Rockies baseball broadcast coming up at the top of
the hour. The Buffaloes. They're getting their season underway here
in less than ten minutes as well. So very exciting
night here in Denver, Fellas, I don't know for just
a couple minutes here, Ben. What do you got coming
up this weekend?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, obviously we've got the games, a lot of college
football watching, all that kind of stuff, a flag football
game I'm gonna be playing in at one point as well,
and fantasy draft on Monday.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I believe are.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You going to be all time QB? Because you can't
do you know, running is not really your thing.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I would suggest that if you and I were to
get out there and run together, they would not say
that running was not my thing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh no, no, this isn't compared to me. This is a
compared to other athletes that are gonna be out there.
I've seen you run. It's it's just you know, you
do like the I'm gonna I'm gonna run a couple
go routes and then I'm tapped out for the night.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I may have been working out a little bit, hang
on the long term endurance, so maybe doing some rowing
things like that. So wow, I'm gonna let them. I
always let them sleep on the speed a little bit.
Now I'm gonna let them sleep on the endurance.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Okay, I'm intrigued. That's very good. How about you, Nick,
what do you got going on?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I'm gonna watch a lot of college football. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Uh, I'm gonna link up with my fourth grade teacher.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh fantastic. Yes, that's cool in town. Well, you know,
you want to give me too many details, but that's
pretty cool man.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, it's been long enough, and I know here in
Koa were doing this whole teacher thing, so just in
time for me to just reminisce with my fourth grade
teacher and figure out what young Nick Ferguson was like.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Very cool,
You can be thrown out the first pitch here in
a little over an hour, five six six million zeros
or key with common Spirit health text line Bitjamin all Bright,
Nick Ferguson back in studio, hanging out with me this afternoon,
and I appreciate it. Even though people are saying, hey,
don't fight, don't fight, We're not fighting. We're just a disagreeing.
We're debating, and that's something that happens. One of the
things that I love about live radio I think that
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you guys do too, is most of the time we
have not talked about these topics ahead of time. So
I have a certain way I'll maybe approach it. They
have a certain way, and then you guys get to
hear what is a very organic discussion on a topic.
So no, I wasn't fighting with the guys in the
last segment, but if you want to think I was fighting,
you can go back and listen to the podcast. Completely
(00:41):
free and totally awesome. My Heart Radio app on.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Vamped Yeah, and during the break Ryan convinced us all
to come around to his point of view and in
no way threatened our jobs or anything of the sort.
So Ryan, we totally one percent changed our one hundred
needed a degree view on things, and you were absolutely right, sir.
I'm not gonna say say that you're in a actually
handsome individual.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm grateful, I'm grateful, and Alessen, I'm not gonna say
that you'll never be invited back on the show. But
I'm not not saying that. I just wait a.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Minute, did you just use a double negative?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Maybe? Listen, man, I k about an hour away for
a first pitch.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Here we're gonna get this guy referraring to himself in
the third person before done.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You're gonna you're gonna have to give me some latitude
here for about an hour.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, this is gonna mean that's not how this Ryan,
That's not how this works.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Well, step up to the mount?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah yeah, well, I mean in front of the mound.
They won't even let me on the mound.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But do you think they won't allow you on the mount?
I told you before they don't. They don't want that
mojo of them.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Man, It just a reserved for really important people.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And exactly said, why won't they allow you.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
On the mouse? Can you imagine like I'm like, listen, fellas,
uh I with all due respect, and I mean to
all due respect to your traditions, please take the tarp
off the mound. I'm I'm going up here now.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, first of all, yous, Ryan Edwards wouldn't say
that at all. You'd be like, get this bleep off
the mound. I'm throwing from up here, and if you
don't like it, you could send Thinger back in there
to go bring Dick Montfort out right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Now, can you imagine?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
But you gotta say it with the chest though, Yeah,
you gotta puff it out a little.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yes, you know what, Ryan, you know what you should do.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You should take a sharpie right pull pull the tart
ball and just sign the bam.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Just just sign it, y Ryan?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Would you sign the ball and toss it to the crowd,
just some kid. They're gonna throw it back at him.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That would be That would be the Channel shows.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
They go in the air, given the loft cap and
then he tosses the ball to the crowd.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They fired back at him.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Pull the sharpie out of my sock. Sign it, oh man,
that would be clever. I am not that clever, so
I I did not think of that ahead of time.
Then if and when you get an opportunity to do
this maybe next year or ka wait day, maybe that's
something that you can do.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
There's no chance I'm ever invited to do any of that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, well, I tell yourself short, I think we all
have seen that.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Is trying to cut back on expenses. There's no way
they're paying that insurance premium.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Good point. That's a good point. That's a good point.
We probably think about five people should get a chance
for right, all right, so we'll get into the Bucks.
I want to talk about the Bucks com up at
five thirty. I want to get start back into that
is that that game is getting ready to happen in
a little under an hour. But I want to kind
of finish off a little bit of a Broncos conversation
from Sean Payton, and I have a question for you guys.
(03:30):
All right, before we hear Sean Payton talking about the
play calling early in the season for Bonix, I have
a question kind of bouncing this around, uh, sort of
in my head, setting it tone for week one? Okay,
more important to set it on offense or on defense?
Week one? More important to set it on offense or defense.
When you're talking about the tone for the.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Season, I always defense, always the offense. I mean, you
you hope that they're better than they than they've been.
But in terms of setting the time, I mean, to me,
that's self defining. You're setting a tone. You're doing that
on defense, you can't see.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I'm totally different from being on that one. And for me,
it's like, no, you want to set it on offense? Well, now,
the reason, the reason being because we saw what this
defense could be sixty three SATs last season.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And when you think about a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Of the games that the Broncos were in, even though
Bowl threw some amazing passes, a lot of the defensive
effort kind of kept them in the game.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So we know what the defense is going to do.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
We know or we can expect the addition of tell
don't know Whu Funga to the Broncos defense, what that's
going to do. What we don't know is what the
run game is going to look like, because in preseason,
I don't know, we saw glimpses of what it might
look like, but we don't.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Know for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Right, and then you add Evan Ingram to get all
things clicking together offensively, Now, that would really bring a
lot of confidence to the Broncos fan base about what's
possible for this team and what they can actually achieve.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I'm with Nick on this. I feel like setting the
tone on offense early in the season would do wonders
not only for let's just take the fan base out
for two seconds, I think for the team. I think
knowing that because I think Nick's exactly right. I think
we know what the defense is capable of, we know
the talent lease on paper, and this isn't like, hey,
if one can be good and one is going to
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be bad. This is which side of the ball established
the establishes themselves, And so for me, it's it's pretty
clear that you'd love to see the offense establish themselves
very early on in the season and not be a
work in progress like we've had discussions about. Because the defense,
I think is going to be fine over the course
of the year. If the offense takes a while to
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find their footing and they don't set a tone for
themselves and for what the team can be, I think
that that could be problematic because season moves on.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I'm just the other way with this.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's like you want your strength, your strong unit to
go out and be your strong unit, showcase that and
the other unit.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
To come along.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You know, if if the offense comes out lights it
up and the defense doesn't, then we're worried about the defense.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I mean, the narrative shift.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So for me, I'd rather just the defense comes out
and is dominant against you know, a rookie quarterback starting
on the road. Then the offense suddenly looking good against
the Tennessee Titans defense.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, see, that's putting too much pressure on Vance Joseph
and a defense to be perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I mean, if it's not pressure, real pressure is going
out and throwing the first pitch in front of twenty
five thousand people before a game.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, get in the rain.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, you absolutely own pressure, right with everyone there with
their phones.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
So I was wrong for comparing that.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
I'm just saying it's real pressure. Lucky it's unluckily our guys.
I'm faced by that.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But yes, how many fans are going to be there tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Something like twenty five thousands, all of them with their
cameras pointed directly at.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Them over.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, you know what, I would hate to be the
guy that just couldn't finish the deal. I would hate
to say that, but anyway, I digress. But Ryan, I'm
with you for me the pressures on the Broncos offense
because we didn't really see a lot of flay it
from them.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Go back to the Saints game.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean, they had to have two possessions going forward
on fourth down, they needed a third possession to really
put the ball in the end zone. So I mean
for the fan base once again to feel confident, and
I think for you, Ryan Vers to feel confident, you
just need to go out and see this offense, go
out and dominate. And regardless of what Ben said about
them playing against the Tennessee Titans, you play who's on
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the schedule.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Can you go out there and can you dominate them?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That's it, That's it and what it would mean I think,
and now I will include the fan base. What will
mean for the fan base too, Brian. I mean, there's
there's just a reverberation to say, Okay, what bon Nicks
could be capable of in the second year, we're seeing
it play out. We don't have to picture or imagine
it or hope it gets there. It's there now. And
then again with the run game, you said it perfectly
(08:05):
what we saw in the preseason definitely didn't look good enough,
especially with the first team. If you come out and
you you put a to up one hundred and fifty
rushing yards and you look like you're controlling the line
of scrimmage, that changes, I think a lot of perceptions
and then probably even internally changes perceptions setting a ton
of defense. They're used to that. In fact, that's just
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kind of what they're supposed to do. Now, if you
go to the other side of that ben and you
say they don't set the tone and they are struggling, well,
that's a different conversation altogether. And I think that that's
where this is kind of a you know, we get
into a bit more nuanced discussion about what that actually means.
But I think the defense is going to be good.
And I guess if you're measuring to the best defense
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in the NFL, well, then I mean that's tall order
to ask. So maybe they don't set the tone as
the best defense, but they still could be a top five,
top ten unit early on.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right, Well, I think if you're struggling against rookie quarterback
in his first start on the road, to me, that
underminds the confidence of both sides of the ball. The
offense is looking at what's normally our rock and saying,
all right, fellas, we got a problem over here, and
and then the defense, you know how quickly they turned there.
I'm just go ahead and have your defense be your
be your star power, and then in your offense will
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get there eventually.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
That's that's that's the hope that you're running with.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay, I dig it. Here's Sean Payton talking about play
calling for Bonix early in the season, and this was
kind of on I remember if the question was something
to the effect, is it is it help with bo
having the experience and the system and he seemingly has
sped up his processing and how much does that help
the play calling? Here's the answer. It's still the mass.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
And early in the season, be careful, there's not you know,
there's not too much.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Let's let's get to the things.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
That we as a group offensively do well, the things
that he really feels comfortable with, and they'll be you know,
a few twists based each team has a different defensive structure.
But I think the mistake would be this large jump
and volume. And again, it's never about the amount, it's
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the details. Within each play, the details for Sutton Brian Frankly,
you know, it's the details with everyone, and so he
can move as that group can move. And so we
always talk about painting the picture for the queue. And
we might love a play and yet are we are
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we are we there yet at tight end or receiver
or we just got to make sure that we're moving.
We're still a young, a young, a young offense. We're
experienced in the offensive line. But I think that's that's
something that's important, especially early in the year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things to sort
of take away from that. But I was listening to
an interview Drew brew was doing. He was talking about Bonix.
He was talking about being in this offense, and he
sort of talked about like what you saw, maybe not
the tail end, but when you saw at the height
of the powers of the New Orleans Saints' offense, when
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Drew Brees and Sean Payton were kind of finishing each
other's sentences, he would say, He said in the interview,
there were times when I knew what Sean was gonna
call before he called it, and you were already kind
of in that same headspace. He said, it took years
to develop that we're like ways away from that. He
liked what he saw from Bow and I think that
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he was I don't think he was cautioning us, but
I think he was acknowledging like this is good, but
there's so much further this thing can go. And so
to Sean Payton's point there, like, yeah, yeah, bo Nix
is gonna take a step forward, and it's certainly nice
to be able to communicate with him on a different level,
but we probably should understand that the fireworks are still
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maybe a couple of years away. Did you get the
same message in that, Ben.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I mean, yeah, I guess it's just it all feels
like public relations in the I'm setting expectation here, but
then I'm backing them off over here, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
You know, you said he's gonna be a top whatever quarterback,
and all of a.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Sudden you say, well, it's going to be a little
why I don't just let the get play. Just let
the get play, you know, quick quit going out there
and trying to set ridiculous expectations and then minimizing them,
you know in the back end and all that kind
of Just let the kid play.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
What about you, Nick, Yeah, I think Ben is right
with this one.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I mean, let's not undermine the expectations of bow and
that's not set them overly too high.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let him go out.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
There and allow him to kind of, you know, set
this path himself. And the way you do that, you
just go out there and you execute. And both said it,
you know himself earlier this week when you when you
look at where he was last year, I mean, he
started to show improvement. He started to show that he
was a little ahead of the curve, right, but he's
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still was a rookie quarterback. He still had to learn
and understand the nuances of this particular offense. So allow
Bo to go out there and play and always go
back to things that I know and people have been
around and my time with Mike Shanahan and being under
pat Bowling, there was not a lot a lot of talk. Right.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You just went out there and you just did your job.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And that's how you set the standard for yourself based
on your production.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
No one's out there selling wolf.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Tickets, right. What I mean by that is that you say, Okay,
this is gonna happen, and we're gonna do this. No
expectations were high, but you had to go out there
and you had to prove it at a high volume.
So let bowl go out there and be Bo. And
what I mean by that me personally. Let that dude
play outside the pocket. He was one of the better
young players last year throwing on the run, which, by
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the way, guys, is very difficult to do, to run
to your right and throw a bomb almost sixty yards
down the field.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
And we've seen do that.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
And I know some guys get caught up in this idea,
Well you got to be a pocket passer, And I'm.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Like, well, yeah, that's kind of on keg. That's what
it was years ago. You don't have to be that way.
The game has changed.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Look out, look at how many mobile quarterbacks there are
in the you know, in this conference alone, the ANC
conference alone.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Let those guys do them.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Man, and then maybe you could do things here and
there the way that you want to. Because at the
end of the day, I don't care what position you
play as a player. Coaches coach players play in Shirley
his cheer. So you let that guy go out there
and be him.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is there anything Ben? Let me ask you this, Is
there anything that Bonnicks, and I guess you probably want
the whole season because people will move the goalposts. There's
anything that Bononix can show in week one that might
quiet some haters or maybe some of the people that
have been grinding the tape or using the advanced analytics
against him. He could show them that he has taken
(14:59):
a step for Is there anything in week one or
is that something that's more of an ebb and flow
of the season.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I think it's an ebb and flow of the season thing.
You know, it's about body of work.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I mean, you're gonna have people hot taking whatever direction
they can after the first game anyway, Right, You're gonna
have people, you know, if he blows it up and
throws for four hundred yards, it's, oh, it's a second coming.
And if you have one hundred and eighty yards, oh
he's a bust. You're gonna have people doing all that
kind of stuff. It really is about the aggregate. It
really is about the body of work and the continued
maturation and all that kind of stuff. If you get
anything out of one game, you know, it's like comparing
(15:30):
as a snapshot to a video. Right, a snapshot is
a moment in time, but it's not context for the
whole video, and the season is a whole video. So no,
there's not anything you can do in one game that
you're gonna have people on both sides that with their
hot taker and doing their hot take things.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Well, I agree with you, I do agree with you,
and I sort of let the witness anyways. But I
guess the other side of that, Nick is the processing, right,
because one of the things that's being held against him
a lot is with some of his numbers against pressure.
And you're right, he did a great job sot of
scrambling out of it and creating. But if he seems
(16:07):
a little more poised, if it seems like the processing
goes a little faster, I mean, gosh, I get I
guess this is like a pretty low bar to clear.
But that first drive against New Orleans, when I think
you had the three place for negative two yards including
a delay, a game certainly got to clear that bar.
I mean, for being hoest, you gotta clear that bar.
But I think that they will do just find there.
(16:29):
I'm just saying, like, if the processing seem faster, if
they're sending some blitzes and some stuff at him, and
he seems like he's handling it in a much more
efficient manner. Maybe those are some things that we can
glean from if you will, well, if you want.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I'm glad you brought up the blitz is up. Gonna
wait till next week to talk about this. But when
you look at the starting offense against blitz, is this preseason?
You can say, oh, well, if that's the preseason, the
team had a difficult time picking it up right, and
we saw what happened in the San Francisco game when
we saw a more danced version of it. In the
(17:05):
game against the Saints, teams are going to blitter his
team because they want to get bow off his spot.
They want to see if he can go through his
progression reads, can he make those throws? But this is
why I feel as though getting him outside the pocket
serves him well because for me, when I think about football,
it's a game of mathematics, there are more guys between
the hashes than they are outside towards the numbers. So
(17:26):
getting him out there when teams are trying to blitz
or getting someone flashed into the flat that allows him
to allows him to get the ball out of his
hands really quickly. But there's no doubt in me that
Bow can do what the Broncos actually need him to do.
He now has a supporting cast on the officer side
of the ball. He's got a defense that is going
(17:46):
to help him and make him a lot better, both
in practice but also by turning the ball over giving
him more possessions. But it comes down to can you
run the ball and can't you stay committed to the
run have balance. See that's the major.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Question, no doubt, man. I am live here from Coursefield,
as we well, we're about about forty minutes away from
me throwing out a first pitch for the Rockies and Cubs.
It's gonna be fun's kaa night. We of course have
SEU football playing tonight up the road and folsom we'll
talk about that when we come back. O KAA Here
(18:28):
at Course Field, I'm here to throw out the first
pitch coming up in about forty minutes. I say excited
about that, I am, but you know, as it gets closer,
I have to talk myself into those words a little
bit more. But I got Benjamin Albright, Nick Ferguson who
have been very complimentary and encouraging me. The entire way.
I appreciate both of them very much for everything that
(18:50):
they've said as far as their advice throughout this entire prospect.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Do they have a police escorts to walk you down there,
you know that?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Or maybe they're gonna scort me out of the building.
I don't know. It's tough to say.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Obviously, we all saw the presidential motor key that took
you down to Coors Field today. I just didn't know
if there was a secret Service detachment there didn't in
the stadium for you, or if you know, if you
were just gonna just just willy nilly just kind of
walked down there and.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Hey, goes in here. That's exactly what we're saying. Hey, guys,
waves good round. Yeah, they put a microphone out there
in the middle of the field. I get to talk
to everybody and yeah, no, I they are gonna come
collect me here at six o'clock when we hand things
off to Jack and Jerry for the Rockies pregame, and
then yeah, I'll be down there shortly, and then I
(19:39):
think we're gonna have some social media posts. By the way,
shout up to Connor Sreeve, who already posted a little
bit of a back and forth with me earlier talking
about tonight, and then we're gonna have some social media
posts a little bit later on on our social channels.
So it makes you go check that out quick man.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Hey, just go out there with a lot of coffe.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Evidence, right, like everybody knows that about me?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, I mean honestly, when people say Ryan Edwards, what
I think of is too much confidence, over confident, really
over I myself have never experienced this, but Ryan Edwards, Yes,
they're just oozing confidence.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well what is think Ryan?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know, coaches like Bill Parcells would always tell me,
both he and Georgia Leary act like you've been there before,
and yeah there before me totally honest, you have been
here before. Yeah, right, this is not foreign territory for you.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You walk out there like you and just kind of like.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
I own the mound there it is, even though.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They're not gonna let you step on it. Still go
out there like I own the mound. Yes, and then
go ahead and distax some grass in front of it.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yes, exactly, all right, I will I will effort on
that mindset.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Coming up here a little bit, I want to talk
about the see You game, because it's gonna get going
here about thirty minutes. Uh, just up the street from
us in Boulder. You know, Nick, I want to start
with the offensive line because you only have the one
returning offensive lineman and Seaton Uri did the offensive line.
What does that mean to you as far as expectations
for what they're going to do there in the run
(21:10):
game and with pass pro.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well, the idea is, you want to be more physical.
You want to be more physical at the point attack.
And we watched Shador for the past few years and
how he ran around. Obviously it was better in year
two than it was.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
In year one.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
So the ideas though, even though you don't have Shador
as Kayden Saltzer who is starting quarterback, you still want
to protect him. And idea is that they built this massive,
giant wall around them. And my thing is, even though
with height and girth and as robust as these guys.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Are, I want to see him move their feet. That's
the biggest thing.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Can you move your feet and can you move another man,
another human body off their spot and not do it?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
What once? Do it twice? And do it consistently.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
If the Buffs are able to do that to me,
they give themselves an opportunity because now you have a
balance attack. Now Pat Shermer can dig in his playbook.
Whatever he didn't run last year, he can now do.
Because when you think about being playing a quarterback position,
if the teams know that you can't run the ball,
all you gonna do is tell your defensive lineman just get.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Up field ten years back, just get up, just get
up field.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
He's gonna be sitting there at eight to nine yards
when you get there. So meeting at the quarterback, they
need to make sure that they throw Georgia Tech off balance.
And the best way you do it to kind of
get the quarterback in the officive line in the rhythm.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Screenplays as Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Sean Payton was like masterful at scheming up screen passes
and that's how you soften them up.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Then after you do that, now it's it's a game.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
But sometimes sometimes you and I go round and round
about what guys did at other schools or in any
other case with like Evan Ingram, what he did at
other teams, and what that will translate to the current team.
So let me ask you in terms of cadence P Salter,
So I mean as a sub sixty percent completion. Great
guy over his time there at Liberty, right fifty eight
(23:03):
point seven. He obviously has a rushing ability. What when
when he transferred to see you, what do you think
coach Prime had in mind for his role as the
quarterback here?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, I think they want to continue running the offense
that they've run, which is a spread it out, you know,
sort of up tempo offense, and I think they think
that he can do that. He's a better athlete than
Shador was, although maybe certainly not as as accomplished as
a passer. You know, he had he didn't have what
thirty was it thirty two touchdowns two seasons ago Liberty.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I think it was on the in the area, yes, yeah,
he had thirty two and six interceptions, yeah, and then
you know the last year is fifteen and six, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Then another twelve on the ground and the thousand rushing yards.
I think if I rememor cry something like that, right,
he's you know, it's almost somewhere in the bullbark. He Yeah,
he's a good athlete. He's just a little bit different
player than Shador. Shador would use the athleticism that he
had to try to buy himself time to make a
play to Travis Hunter. Kayen Saltz is going to be
using as athleticism to pick up yardage, and so I
(24:04):
think the offense that you had that might work out
a little better because you can see some draw action,
you know, out of him at times when they do
get upfield, when they do pin their ears back. If
you've got to clean enough pocket, especially between the a
gaps up there, then you can lurch forward and get
yourself some yardage that Shador would have tried to spin backwards,
get out the back of the kitchen and try to
make a play to Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You can just see Salter trying to get up field
and make plays.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's I know, Nick, you probably echo that. That's
one thing that and it's not like Pat Shermer was
coaching Shador up to do that. That was sort of
natural instinct stuff. And of course, when you have the
receiving core that they had, including Travis Hunter, the Heisman winner,
you're going to try to extend the play as much
as you can because you want to give your offense
a chance. But if there's something that you can remove
(24:47):
from this offense from last year, almost immediately the amount
of sacks they took and the amount of really bad
sacks drive ending we're losing ten to fifteen yards at
a time, kinds of sacks. I agree with Ben. I
think Salter, from what I've seen of him, that that's
not what he's going to be doing out there.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
No, and and once again, it sounds simple enough, but
it's different when you're under center and you're behind five
guys and you're expecting these guys to do their job.
And I understand what mobile quarterbacks think about. This is
why when you evaluate mobile quarterbacks, people will say.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Well, if they hold the ball too long.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
The reason why they're holding the ball, they're trying to
buy time with the athleticism, hoping someone breaks fee down
the field.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And even though you run out behind.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
The line of scrimmage, that is technically a sack. And yes,
Chador would lose ground or gain ground. I watched Russell
Wilson and other quarter mobile quarterbacks do that in their
prime because they relied on their legs so much, and
that's not a bad thing. They know what is a
strength for them and they're trying to maximize it. The
(25:56):
thing is, it becomes an issue when you're when you
can't do anything up front, and offensive line cannot establish
a run and you're constantly under pressure.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And now that quarterback now has the press.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Now he's being forced to make plays where you're saying,
you know what, throw the ball away here, take the sack.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Take a page out of Peyton Manning's book.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
When it just seemed as though a guy a defenders
in your face, fall on the ground right and live
to play another day. But for mobile quarterbacks, that's not
how they're wired. Every single throw, on every single play
they think that they can make right, and some coaches
either you love it or you hate it. But if
you have a mobile quarterback, you gotta live and die
with that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
On defense, for just a second here, Ben Rob Linderson
got fourteen new transfers on the defensive side of the ball.
I mean, this is what college football is now, right,
And I thought there were some nice moments from the
defense last year. But you have turnover. You have turnover
every year, and that's just what it's going to be.
So you have to continue to sort of infuse talent
from everything I've read, and again we're gonna see it
(26:55):
on the field coming up here in a little bit
everything I read, is there some optimist about how good
this defense could be too, Yeah, And.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I think that's that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's gonna be an instance where this defense is gonna
have to at times carry this offense. We talked about
Salter not being his prolific a passer. He will pick
you up fifty to sixty yards a game of his legs,
but not as accomplished the passers should or so.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
You're gonna have third and long situations.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
He's not gonna bail you out of that said, this
defense is going to have to generate turnovers.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
They're going to have to be able to get stops.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
They're gonna have to keep opposing, specifically in this game,
Georgia Tech from from getting these long drives that Georgia
Tech is very very capable of doing, and they love
doing that early because they comes they cash that in
late when you're worn out, because you've been on two
three long.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Drives in the first half.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
They cash that out late and they can go up
tempo on you if they need to. So this defense
is gonna have to generate a turnover at some point
in the game. Today, They're gonna have to get some
key stops and not allow these lengthy drives.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
How about you, Nick, what do you think about the defense?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, I mean there are some changes that have been
made in their defense and I think being around, you know,
livising for a while, I mean, he's gonna have those
guys ready to go. And one of the big issues
that see you had last year. It's funny enough they
couldn't run the ball and they couldn't really stop the ball.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Now when Charles Kelly that first year.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Things look wildly different last year on the limitsing than
they did with Charles Kelly the first year. So it's
about being bigger upfront and that's kind of one of
the emphasis that coach Brian wanted to talk about.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And they are big on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Can you get these guys to play together collectively in
the Rockets environment that.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You are creating. It's going to be really.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Interesting because I can tell you this from a defensive standpoint.
When you're playing at home, the crowd is going to
be really loud. Can I communicate to the guy across
the field? I mean I played in when it was
Invesco field and try to talk to John and Champ.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
They couldn't hear me, and there they were less than
five yards away from me.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
So can you manage that initial crowd surge in your
own energy to go out there and from a defensive standpoint,
you got to run out there and smacks someone in
the face early.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
And cubs, it's Kaway night here. I'll be throwing out
the first pitch about twenty minutes. Very excited about that.
In the meantime, though, a couple minutes left five six,
six nine zero. Appreciate all the kind words. By the way,
on the text line people have been texting in all afternoon,
mostly good, mostly good, And there's a couple people that
have been acknowledging their trolling. But for everybody else that
has said encouraging things, whether on Twitter, on Facebook, Instagram, otherwise,
(29:25):
I am grateful for it. I'm certainly gonna go out
there and try not to disappoint Dave Logan, Benjamin all Bright,
Nick ferguson my entire family k Away. You know, those
are the kinds of things that I think we're ultimately
aiming for tonight. But very excited about the opportunity.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
We have.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
The Rockies baseball broadcast coming up at the top of
the hour. The Buffaloes. They're getting their season underway here
in less than ten minutes as well. So very exciting
night here in Denver, Fellas, I don't know for just
a couple minutes here, Ben. What do you got coming
up this weekend?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, obviously we've got the games, a lot of college
football watching, all that kind of stuff, a flag football
game I'm gonna be playing in at one point as well,
and fantasy draft on Monday.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I believe are.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You going to be all time QB? Because you can't
do you know, running is not really your thing.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I would suggest that if you and I were to
get out there and run together, they would not say
that running was not my thing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh no, no, this isn't compared to me. This is a
compared to other athletes that are gonna be out there.
I've seen you run. It's it's just you know, you
do like the I'm gonna I'm gonna run a couple
go routes and then I'm tapped out for the night.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I may have been working out a little bit, hang
on the long term endurance, so maybe doing some rowing
things like that. So wow, I'm gonna let them. I
always let them sleep on the speed a little bit.
Now I'm gonna let them sleep on the endurance.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Okay, I'm intrigued. That's very good. How about you, Nick,
what do you got going on?
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I'm gonna watch a lot of college football. Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Uh, I'm gonna link up with my fourth grade teacher.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh fantastic. Yes, that's cool in town. Well, you know,
you want to give me too many details, but that's
pretty cool man.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Yeah, it's been long enough, and I know here in
Koa were doing this whole teacher thing, so just in
time for me to just reminisce with my fourth grade
teacher and figure out what young Nick Ferguson was like.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Very cool,
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