09-02-25 KOA Sports Hour 3 with Nick Ferguson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got Rockies Baseball coming up the top of the
hour six o'clock as they're back at it taking on
the Giants. Hopefully we can get it up with three Away,
three Away from forty two. Very excited about that after
they won on Sunday. In the meantime, though, if you
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(00:22):
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that we never miss an episode of the show. We'll
get to Sean Paygne and Drew Brees here in just
a matter of seconds. But I like this text here
Ryan acting like Nick has his six year old working.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
In the minds. This is the long running sort of joke.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Between the two of us, and some of it stems
from back in the day when we would stand on
the sideline during training camp with our friend Jordan, who
we used to work with broncos PR and we used
to just tease Nick mercilessly, mercilessly, which is unfair.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well that was due and it's Jordan's fault. Well, add
context too, because that's when the new media rules were changed.
We couldn't do certain things that practice. So we found
creative ways to entertain ourselves. And you know, majority of
the time it was me entertaining YouTube talking about how

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I disciplined my kids and how I have my kids
actually do chores around the house. Hence why that texture
is saying that you think I have my kids in.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
The mind.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I think you're a wonderful father.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
And if you think working in the minds gives them character,
then that's not for me to say otherwise, just again,
you know the black lung. If you've everst seen Zoolander,
remember he was one day, one day in the minds
and he got the black lung.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, and Drad doesn't get that, and I'm sure that's
not recorded anyway. No, I wait un till he left
the room.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, do that.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
But the whole thing is I'm teaching my kids early
responsibility and discipline.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, yes, in the minds.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
However you want to call it discipline accountability.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I take it, man, It's called structure. Yes, when you
keep doing the thumb thing.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I don't know. I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Discipline structure of like hell, lead take it easy there,
I know where that came from.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
And when you said, I was like, why am I
doing that?

Speaker 5 (02:20):
But like you're a politician or something like taking a
point on each maybe that.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Helps you emphasize it.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, all right, So the Broncos begin their season on Sunday.
Our coverage starting at eight am, goes all the way
to nine pm, So we have tons of coverage for
the Broncos and tomorrow they'll be back in practice to
get a chance to see the Broncos efforts to start
the season fast, and that's been a big discussion point.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Here was Sean Payton yesterday talking about how.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
The Titans have improved, or at least what he's seen
from them.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Well, a couple things they've They've made a commitment in
the offensive line, a couple you know, big name free
agents draft and another player I think on the perimeter.
You know with locket there, you know there's skilled people.
Receiver wise, has definitely improved. But the number one thing

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that stood out was in Look, I've worked with Bill
Callaghan before, he's a fantastic line coach, and I'm sure
they felt they had to get better in that area
and they committed a lot of a lot of resources there.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
So one thing that I've been thinking about when it
comes to Titans, because the Broncos are favored by seven
and a half, and I think most people around NFL circles,
not just locally but even nationally, expect the Broncos to
win this game, And in fact, I think it's the
highest I think it's the biggest line of the entire weekend,
seven and a half, with the exception of like Thursday
Night Football, which think is eight and a half right

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now in favor of the Eagles. But seven and a half, yeah,
you gotta win that game, I guess. My thought and
my question is how do Because the Titans are going
to be coming into this game really with no pressure
on them whatsoever. And it's not to say that there's
never pressure on players in the NFL. It's just expectations. Right,

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you're starting a rookie quarterback. It's a rebuild. You're in
the midst of a rebuild. Yeah, you've improved the offensive line,
to what coach Payton said, you've improved from some of
your skill positions, but you're already banged up a running back.
Ty Je Spears is on ir and Tody Poler is
going to be the guy.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
But he was kind of their starting running back last
year had a good season.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Actually, my point here is expectations are relatively low. How
do the Broncos avoid overlooking the Titans?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Just go out there and play physical style of football,
because that's essentially what Sean Payton wanted to establish.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
With his run game, and you want to play ball control.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like you mentioned the fact that the Titans have guys
banged up in a running back row, and also you're
playing with the rookie cou So the idea is put
pressure on him, force him to.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Play the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
If he's going to get explosive plays, make sure that
he works for every explosive play. And then we start
to look at some of the familiarity right now, what
jumps out with Lee as you look at Lord Kushionberry
who was familiar with his organization once upon a time
he was here, Gunner Helm, who was coached by our
own you know, Dave Logan at Cherry Creek. So the

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idea is that make sure you contain their emotion that
initue surge because for them beating you, that's an upset,
that would be a huge upset, but it would only
validate the fact that when you look at cam Ward
his draft status. So he's coming in looking to do that, right,

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He's looking to increase his brand, and how the way
to do that then beating the Denver Broncos, who had
a defense that were one of the top defenses in
the league.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, all the love right now is centered around the Broncos.
And I'm talking like nationally, not even just locally. As
listening to Chris Sims earlier today talking about how he
is the Broncos winning the AFC West. You see the
Broncos in the what is the Pro Football Talk power rankings?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
They're number nine.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
The Broncos are getting so much national love, and I'm
here for it. I think they deserved. They're a good
team and I think they are going to be a
good team this year. But it doesn't mean you can't lose.
It doesn't mean you can't lose in a one off
game against the Tennessee Titans. We're coming in here with
nothing to lose. Tennessee Titans don't have any pressure on
them whatsoever. All the pressure of this specific game is
on Denver representing at home, and.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That could be a great.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Thing, right Certainly, the response from your team when all
the pressure's on you, especially because your coaches have been
out out.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
There writing checks with his mouth about you.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
So now you gotta cash.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Now, you gotta cash him, and you've got you've got
to show up, and you've got to be on great
on both sides of the ball, and you've got to
win the game if you're gonna win the division, because
he keeps talking about that's what we expect to do
this year. We expect to win the division. You got
to win games like this. Winning the division is not
gonna be a cakewalk. It almost never is in the NFL.
Winning any game, by the way, is not a cakewalk,
but specifically when it comes to the numbers, the math

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at the end of this thing and includes a win
against the Titans. So they come in not feeling the
pressure of relatively anything because nobody has expectations. There are
five and a half over under for the season, maybe
even lower. I think it's five and a half. Rugs
are nine and a half. There are high expectations for Denver.
You got to manage that somehow.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Or you just have to make sure, if you're a player,
that you're doing everything that you can during the week.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
And I don't think.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
There's any play on either side of the pall individually,
or the coaches will allow them to overlook this Tennessee
Titans team.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Right, they do have decent wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Tyler Lockett is a guy that has done a great
job in Seattle inside the slot Calvin Riley, you know
what he's capable of doing. Now, playing against a mobile quarterback,
it's going to stretch the defense a little. But this
is why the Broncos have Jared Stidham as their backup quarterback.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
He can provide them mobility and.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Give them something They say, Okay, well we went through
this in practice. The coach has put us through some
of these in game scenarios. So it's going to force
everyone to be disciplined with their eyes and discipline with
their rush lanes. Because cam Wod is not a real
fast guy, so you don't have to worry about him
running away from you.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
But he does a great job.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Extending the pocket and he still has a strong arm
to deliver the ball down the field. So if you
find yourself peeking and now you're in trell moo, he
can get.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
The ball over you.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
What is it about playing a rookie quarterback in his
first start, like on the defensive side of the ball.
And you'll have a chance to talk to more players
this week how they're preparing for it. But you're going
back to college watch the preseason. I guess you watch
it all, don't you.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, you watch the preseason when you go back to
games that cam Ward had in college, you watch the
games that he played well, but you watch the ones
that gave him trouble, right, because once again, he's not
a very mobile quarterback. So nine times out of ten,
if you get back behind Tennessee Titans offensive line, you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Be able to drag him down.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
He's not gonna do with the Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson
where he's got to outrun you. No, But the ideas
can you be disciplined with your eyes, because he can
make those tight window throws, and trust.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Me, he's going to try to make them.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
But the biggest thing for the Titans is you gotta
force them to play with one hand tied.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Behind their backs. And what I mean by that is
you gotta eliminate the run.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
If the Broncos front four can eliminate the run, you
can do so much, so many things in the back
end to confuse that young quarterback because he's seen things
on the collegiate level, he hasn't seen it on this level, right,
And he hasn't seen a Nick Benito. He hasn't seen well,
what what's Cavin really going to do against PS two?
He his draft process hadn't prepared him for that. Preseason

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had not prepared him for that.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It reminds me when Bonick saw Seattle's defense, it was different.
It was different, Like he looked good in the preseason
and we were kind of excited about it. And then
as soon as he saw a starting caliber defense, the speed,
you could just see the.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Processing wheels turning for him. And his feet. Remember that
we were lotting him for.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
How good his feet looked in the preseason and training camp,
and once he got into that game on the road
in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
There was maybe nervous feet. Yes, yes, you get the
nervous feet because you're for quarterbacks. Their feet and their
brain is trying to catch up. They're trying to get
on the same page. Their eyes are seeing it a
certain way, and their feet was like I gotta get
out of here, I gotta go And he's like, no, no,
there's a guy open the store. It's like, no, I

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got a rock and there it's a lot of confusion
in your mind. That's why I feel this bow is
going to be better in his second year than he
was in his first year. And Cam is still trying
to figure it out. Let's confuse him, Let's move, and
then also disguise. And we say with certain quarterbacks, well,
Peyton Manning's seen everything. That might be true, but that

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doesn't necessarily mean you don't try to use the disguise.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Sean Paigne was asked on Monday, it's a good question
for Zack Stevens belief about adding more to Bonix's plate,
like especially early in the season, and what that would
ultimately look like.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Here's what he said.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Yeah, I don't think it's putting more on his plate,
I think, and I hear that reference a lot. I
think it's a little bit more of what he's used to,
how he operates within it more efficiently or quickly, more decisively.

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You know, I've told the coaches with you know, early
in the season, it's got to be a process. You know,
it's not all right, this is where we ended last year.
Now we're onto and so I think if I did it,
or used a good analogy. It would be a certain
play a year ago at same play this year, he's

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out of the huddle, a little quicker with the call.
He maybe understands the nuances of the play and has
seen the cutups of it all year, and it is
a little bit more comfortable with the same play from
a year ago.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I do think that conversation and we'll play some Drew Brees,
because he talked about it, because he was asked almost
the same question on a podcast with Kevin Clark. I
think a lot of it will organically happen because as
Drew Breestow broke down the process that a quarterback is
coming to the line and diagnosing what the defense is
doing and communicating with his offensive line and communicating with

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the receivers and get everybody lined up, those processes, as
a real key should look different in your two and beyond.
They should be faster, They should be things that he
can pick up on because, as Drew Brees sort of diagnosed,
you have ten to fifteen seconds, and maybe as a rookie,
you're using that ten to fifteen seconds to know what
you're doing now in your two and hopefully beyond. You're

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using that ten to fifteen seconds to tell them what
they're doing and moving them around and putting them in
position for advantageous matchups.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's an evolution and a progression, right because you go
from having a green dot. The coach is telling you, Okay,
well here's what you're gonna have, and you're probably gonna
get this defense, so make sure you go through your progressions.
Now it gets to a point where Bo gets on
the field and it's the same play. Instead of the
coach telling him go through your progressions, he now surveys

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the defense.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
And he goes, I don't like this call. I'm gonna
call something else.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
So when you think about adding more to the plate, yeah,
coaches do add more to players plate, especially at the
quarter of a position, because you're a little more experience.
If Sean Payne's playbook, let's say, had two hundred and
seventy pages, Bo's first year, they probably did sixty. So
you're gonna add more to it because we know you

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can handle it, and we know that we trust you rather,
we trust you to go out there and put the
offense in the right play. Because being a quarterback, you
got twenty four seconds the defense might move. What if
you run a play action and you tear your back
where you thought a guy was, he's now moved.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
That's where you want to throw the ball.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
So now you've got to come off for him, reset
your feet. Now you've got to go somewhere else. That's
a lot of things that are going on. That's why
it's progression and evolution.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
And I feel like, as I said before, I think
it's going to be organic in the way that they
can continue to add because Sean's gonna know and Bo's
gonna know. This all feels a lot more comfortable, and
I'm seeing, in fact, let's do more. Give me, give
me more control over what I can do at the line,
give me more control over what I'm seeing, and then

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they start see the same things. I heard an interview
with Drew Brees a while back, and this isn't the
same one here with Kevin Clark, but I heard him
talking about how there will be moments where Sean would
call something and Drew already knew what he was going
to be calling. Now we may be a couple of
years away from that, but I don't think it's that
far off. If Bo truly is seeing things faster if

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it truly is coming to him faster. And listen to
the guys around him during the course of training camp,
whether it's player, speaker otherwise, are saying, well, yeah, no,
when he gets to the line, or even when in
the huddle, the way he's describing what we're doing feels different,
and maybe that's something that they ultimately can build some
at least some confidence off of.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Well, here's the.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Other thing too, as far as progression and evolution. Allowing
your quarterback who's on the field to now run the
offense right, And.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
You can only do that when you have, like you fully.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Understand what the offense is and what the coordinator is
trying to do. But he's on the field, he's seeing
the defenders move, he's seeing those things. Standing on the
side online, you can see so many other things where
you should have through the ball here, through the ball there.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
No, I'm on the field, so trust me.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
You may call the play, but that play is and
that set up based on what the defense is now
giving you. Right, you gave that to me with the host, Well,
guess what they're going to be in three D. Guess
what now? There, man, I got a bitz of nickel.
I can't throw that over there now when that happens,
will coach Peyton be able to handle that.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Here's Drew Brees talking about Addie Moore to Bonix's plate.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
I love watching the Broncos, love watching Sean man. Bonis
is a really fun quarterback to watch. I think he's
got all the trades, all the tools, great athlete, really
really runs well. I mean, I don't think he gets
enough credit for how well. Its not surprising, you know,
We've had discussions about being a multi sport athlete and
being a really good quarterback. He was an exceptional track athlete.

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I can see it when he runs. I think he
ran the four hundred, which is a man's race, Like
that is a legit race, and so like you see
that when he takes off and runs, it's like he
gets faster as he gets twenty thirty forty yards down
the field. So a big, strong athlete, obviously great with
the short intermediate passing game, very accurate, gets the ball
out of his hands quickly, but can really push the

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ball down the field as well. And I think in
his second year now he's developed a comfort level.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
With I think the complexity of the Sean Payton offense.

Speaker 7 (17:19):
I mean, look, Sean will make it as complicated as
you can handle, right, I mean that's basically the way
I would equate it. Sean has all of his assistants
that he had with the Saints.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
You know, it's Joe.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
Lombardi, it's Pete Carmichael, it's Zach Streef. It's all these
guys that you know have been in that system now
for almost twenty years, I mean legitimately. So think about
the institutional knowledge and from where it started where it
is now and now bow Nix is coming in and
trying to learn this new language and get caught up.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
But gradually over time, I think.

Speaker 7 (17:46):
He'll take more and more responsibility, you know, within the
framework of the offense.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
And I mean, this guy's the limit for a guy
like that.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I love that point.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Sean will make it as complicated as you can handle.
It was such a great line there from Drew because
that's exactly what you get when you're talking about Sean
and the vibe what Sean represents as a as a
play caller, as a head coach. He's wanting guys to
see the field the way he does. He wants the
culture of the locker room really on both sides of

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the ball to do things a certain way. And so
when he says, Sean will be get as complicated as
you can handle, I think that's part of why he
fell in love with Bonix in the pre draft process,
because he did make it complicated for him and he
did handle it. There were some bumps last year, but
that doesn't mean that that Sean was taking it easy
on BONICKX. You said sixty plays. Maybe with a different player,

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different rookies that he's had in the past, he probably
couldn't even get to that.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Maybe, right.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
But what Drew is seeing and what I think Seawn
is seeing is he continues today. He was on the
Rich Eisend Show saying how much he loves Bonix, right.
I think what he's seeing is a guy that can
handle that stuff, and he's seeing a guy that is
taking those necessary steps. I think the problem for a
lot of Broncos fans right now is what we saw
in the preseason doesn't feel like that just yet.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
And I can understand why my fans are looking at
it because we are creatures of habit. Right, what was
the last thing that we saw that's supposed to set
the table for everything else. But here's something that is
interesting about listening to that audio from Drew Brees, and
I don't know if you you really paid attention to it.

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He kept talking about bo Nick's mobility. See that was
something that Drew didn't have, which is why he had
to stand in the pocket. And this is something that
I've said to Bow myself, where I said, look, dude,
you're one of the better quarterbacks when you are on
the move. That's one of the tougher throws to make
because it puts pressure.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
On the defense.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
So I'm hoping that you get more design plays to
play on the perimeter because that's where you work, and
that's where you work best. Because let's go back to
the game against the Saints, he got outside the pocket
they ran and this video I put up on Socio
at Nick ferguson Underscore twenty five.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
That laid it out.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
He's outside the pocket and those routes progressively were laid
out one, two, and three.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
To me, that's what you want to do because they
are less.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Defenders guess where outside.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
The first day, Nick came over and worked with us
on Kaway. We opened the show with this song exactly
as a way to say we heard you.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Well, it's not technically that you heard me, because I
never really chimed in on that.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
It was just so great because this is why, like
Twitter is the best of the worst place in the world.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
It really is.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
But the fact is we tweeted out about the Spin
doctors and Chris Laren saw it and he was like, yeah,
I come on your show, and we ended up lighting
Upchris Baron, the lead singer of those tea.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
As soon as I come over here, just to welcome
me in.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, we play that song, yes, as a way to
say welcome you.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Know, they technically call that hazing.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's not what they call that good natured ribbing.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Why that's because you put me a fist that way nature?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because they giving you the thumb. I never did have
sexual relationship with that.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
I mean, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Definition is.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Hey, before you move on, and I actually want to
ask you something about the way the Broncos are allocating
their resources. And when I get to that just two
seconds coach Coach Corso Lee Corso, his final game day
appearance was was epic and and and again shout out
to Fox, who runs their programming opposite College Game Day

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on ESPN. They actually aired Lee Corso's final headgear pick
on their program, so syldcast on Fox and ESPN is
probably the first time that's ever happened that you have
programming from one competitor played on another one. And he's
out there midfield at the Ohio State game.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
And here's how it sounded.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
All right, this is one.

Speaker 8 (22:14):
This is one of his fix I've ever made Texas.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
It is lowered.

Speaker 8 (22:22):
Texas has number won. They haven't mad any quarterback. Poor
oh Hove State. Hey, yes, get me right first love
there come up.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
And then he puts on Brutus's head and okay, of personal,
Ohio State goes away.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
He is actually perfect. He's actually perfect in his picks.
He took Florida State to upset Alabama. Everybody else was on.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Alabama, and he's like, no, no, no, I'm gonna be a
Florda State. That's my team. These coach for him, and
they the embarrassed Alabama Alabama.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
This is kind of a bad way.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
People are already wanting to run killing Debor out of
town because you know, he's got four I saw somewhere
he's got four losses already to non ranked teams. M
Nick Saban his entire career at Alabama had four.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
That's not fair, though, why not?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's Alabama.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
There's a standard. That's the only reason. Because it's Alabama.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
It's a standard.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
This standard.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
It was a standard that was set by Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It's the first time they've been under five hundred since
two thousand and six.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
But you don't have the same type of athletes.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I get it, it's still Blama, but you you don't
have the same type of athletes.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
They're being coached entirely different.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Please get you can't be serious.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
You are just saying love words, a lot of words
that make no sense at all.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I'm trying to help him out right, because it's crazy
that kill.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
But he might he might not get the last ter
because they can't lose.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
This one game.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
It's the first game of the season and Alabama fans
are jumping off the bandwagon.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Saying that this guy should be fired.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I mean that he's given three games before you start
doing that, we too, Yeah, I mean, come on, man,
it's a lot of pressure coaching at Alabama.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
That's what I'm saying this Alabama, there's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Standard went to San Jose State for.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Real, not a lot of pressure. Not as much money either.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Not a lot of pressures though. State they got to
play Texas. Oh boy, Yeah, they're about to get run through.
They had all the frustration.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
State.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Anyways, I thought it was really great the way the
sendoff for Lee Krso was phenomenal. It was I you
look a lot of my childhood watching him. I mean
you said about like the nineties, like, yes, you know
he's been doing this well actually since the eighties, in
the nineties when he did the headgear for the first time.
But yeah, I just it was it was must watch

(25:06):
for me. I could not wait for that entire presentation,
and they did. They knocked it out of the park.
It was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
It'd be one of one of those things like where
were you when that happened?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
And Kurt Herbstreet, who worked.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
With Lee Corso I almost over three decades, had a
kind of heartwarming send off for him and always worry about,
you know, guys in.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
That type of situation.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Because Lee Corso has been a staple of college football
in ESPN for so many years now, he no longer
has this as a reason to get up in the morning.
What is he going to have to occupy his time
now that that and not to go off dog, But
that's one of the things that I worry about. But
I was happy to see him and his tucks and

(25:56):
he was happy, and you know, that's the way that
I want to remember him.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
On the tax line, Nick and Ryan Broncos worked out
duce Vaughan and opened a spot on practice squad thoughts.
I mean, it makes some sense they did open up
practice squad spot.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
We talked about that a little bit earlier.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
They Quentin, I'm space to David Yeah Newston, thank you,
thank you. I want to call him Jammer, but obviously
he is charges long ago he was here too. Yeah,
but yeah, they released Newsome off the practice squad today
they opened a spot and they worked out duce Vaughan,
which we had Dave Logan on earlier, and he talked

(26:32):
about how much he loves Deus Fawn. We like Ducevon.
He he's the closest darren Sprolls that's in the league
right now. But he's a free agent, so I'm certainly
in favor of that. Because they don't have running backs
currently on the practice squad.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
That would be a great addition, but it will also
be somewhat of a reminder, and coaches love to provide
reminders for players that you know what the top two.
Just safe your job every Tuesday, every Tuesday. Right, it's

(27:06):
not taco Tuesday. Is that my keeping my job Tuesday?

Speaker 4 (27:09):
That's what it is. In the NFL.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
You and show your day off. Don't get on Twitter,
because then you're gonna see the workhouse.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Okay, think about it.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Players days off on Tuesday and then they bring in
players on Tuesday. So you might be out enjoying a
movie or I don't know whatever you're doing, and hey, Ryan,
you might be coming back to the to the facility
for a second.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
We need to talk to you, like, nah, just lose
my lose my number. Dog. What you did? Well, you
know what, I've never been in that type of.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
System, a good player. You never had that problem?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Hosting the Giants, the Broncos did not sign uce Vaughn.
As we were discussing earlier, is that they opened up
a practice squad spot. They signed a wide receiver there, Thomas,
who was part of the workouts today, So adding another
wide receiver only had two the practice squad. In all fairness,
all the undrafted rookies, they all went somewhere else. And

(28:10):
there Thomas, who recently played for the Minnesota Vikings. He uh,
he is now a Denver Bronco at least on the
practice squad. So congratulations to they or Thomas, get that paper,
get that paper.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
See here.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I remember him trying to remember yet because he's undrafted
player played in NCAS State. I don't think he's I
don't think he's played in a game yet. But you know,
they brought in, well, they got the connection with Minnesota,
so maybe maybe there's some special teams lean here with

(28:49):
ay or Thomas six foot one hundred ninety five pounds.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'm not exactly sure, but Deuce fall was brought in.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I think we got excited about the idea of what
duce Vaughn could mean in this offense. But he even then,
you're talking about you have four running backs. You're not
even to activate all of them on game day anyways,
And I don't know how many teams Douzvon really actually
fits with what he does. And that's not a slight
against him. It's just based on his relative skill set
and size.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I think, you know what, he would be great for Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Okay, yeah, I mean the reason I say that because
dus Vaughan wouldn't have to be the lead back.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
You just kind of the change of pace back.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
He can't catch the ball out of the backfield, right,
sort of like what you think about Davis bros Who
you said that he is an excellent com too.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Obviously, size create limitations because it's can you pick up
a blitzing linebacker, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I would even.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Say that, oh wow, the Patriots and what they're doing
getting back to the old Patriots way, because the Patriots
historically they've never really had like large backs. A couple
of their backs have been large, but there have been
smaller backs.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Who can catch the screen pass.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
So hopefully there is a place for Reduce Bond for
him to continue his football career.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, and they certainly had a type of receiver too, right.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I mean they're talking about the Chris Hogan's and the
Julian Edelmans, and.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Think about Chris Hogan lacrosse player.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
How about that Julian Edlmans is a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Do you know that? There you go.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
I bet you knew that.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Yeah, of course I did.