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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Benjamin ol Bryant Institutio. Hi, Ben, how's it going? It's
going great. The Broncos just announced their captains. We can
get that here in.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Just a second.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Rick Louse good Joints after four o'clock, get his thoughts
on the opening week of the NFL. And just here,
my friend, it is. We are one day away, one
day away. Are you excited to hear who the captains
are for the Broncos?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Don't care. Bonnix is gonna be one of them, because
your quarterback is always one of them unless you're the
Saints Pats.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Or Tan's obviously gonna be one of them. Two Quinn
Minors is obviously going to be one of them.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Three court and Sutton's gonna be one of them.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Have four more?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We had eight captains? Oh Jesus, all right? Zach Allen dope?
Oh wow? Okay, Trey green Law nope, uh, I'm running
out of names here. Who did I miss? On off? Well?
Will Watts? It's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
If you have three more U and I'm missing three defenders?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Another inside linebacker?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Singleton?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Ye? All right?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Way and e line not Zach Allen?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well? Only these Jones J Jones Okay, that's weird, man. Interesting,
if Brandon Jones, you've been here two years and the
who FUA comes in free agent gets voted captain over you.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You will and then yeah, I mean so, then the
opposite is true with Alex Singleton.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
The eyebrow raise, I guess is Dre green Law per
Mike Cliss working out on the side field today, not practicing.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We'll see what the official practice before comes out here.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sean Payton's talking right now, so I'm sure he'll give
us some information on that. But yeah, Drake green Law,
they're they're well, they just say they're gonna limit his reps.
We've taught, we talked about that, have been on Friday.
You concerned it all? No?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean, uh, with Frick with limited reps his overall health. Yeah,
I'm concerned with this. Hell, that's I've been concerned with that.
I talked about the inside backer position back at the
draft when I was like, yeah, we got two guys
that are coming off of injury, a third guy with
an injury history, and a fourth guy who hasn't learned
the position yet in Sanders. Well, Sanders went and got hurt.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Greenlaw reaggravated Singleton.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Broke his thumb, and we get to Karan Reid who's
a special teamer, and Lavelle Bailey on the practice squad.
So eight captains, that's a lot. It's a little little captains,
a little much, okay. I mean, listen, man, if they're
all deserving side of the Saints, was there any team
that didn't have the quarterback as their captain, because.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's the thing, like everybody goes oos and all the
quarterbacks the captain. I'm like, yeah, everybody, that's it's not news.
If the quarter it's news. If he's not sure, Well,
these there aren't thirty two quarterbacks out there that are
leaders on their team. Let's me know.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But Boenix was a captain as a rookie.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It would have been really weird if he wasn't obviously
in this case, and I think all of us expected that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think it's to be more about what some of.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The other positions and and do you really need to
have eight captains. I was listening to JJ Waterler today
on Pat McAfee, and he was talking about how his
preferences won on offense, one on defense, one of special teams,
and I mean, in the end it's like whatever, if
this is how they want to structure the leadership and
how Sean is going to communicate to the locker room
(03:11):
at times and expect these guys, these guys are all
leaders in the locker room. Like quindn Minors is your
best offensive lineman, Corland Sutton's your wide receiver, one Bone
Nix obviously is your quarterback. I mean we talk about
the you know, in the secondary passer tan. I guess
a little surprise there with Tallano Hufanga being a captain
DJ Jones, but hey, it is what it is. Yea
(03:35):
tis the people out there with some hot takes about it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I just don't have one. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean DJ get he is a vocal leader. I
mean that that's one of those things. I mean you
think normally you think your star players, but not all
of them are vocal leaders, you know, not all of
them are guys that when you when you're doing the
captains things sometimes about guys that set the standard or
guys that are willing to hold other guys accountable. And
so that's that DJ, that that sort of makes sense.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That is that is just breaking ron because of a
now their captains and we are into game week very excited.
You know, I do want to get into Titans today
a little bit with you, and certainly you put out
your season predictions for the AFC and NFC.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
There's a really fun article on the athletic the hopometer.
I don't know if you saw this article, but they
talked about the optimism level for every franchise the fan base.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Just see where the Broncos came in on that one.
I did not.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You want to guess the optimism one through thirty two.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Probably in the top seven or eight, keep going down.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Up, okay, Yeah, like optimism is higher optimism fan optimism.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Is at all time high here. So you said top
seven or eight, keep going.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I mean okay. If I had to put a number on,
I put like third one, number one, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And the NFL is graded on ninety eight point seven
percent optimism.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So they asked, they asked a bunch of fans. This
just like getting the A plus grade from Yahoo on
your fantasy team after the draft, which you did by
the way here at last I know, because so rip
my season, Yeah, probably go up before a fall man
ask Eagles fans about the dream team and all that stuff.
Anytime you start getting that unanimous optimism, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
When stuff starts going wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Don't do that. Guys have measured optimism here. Let them
sleep on.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Us ninety eight point seven percent optimism. I'll read you
some of the comments because they actually got comments from
Broncos fans on this. Okay, after a decade in the ABYSS,
we're finally back. The defense should be great at all
levels with the reigning defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Teams be better, teams be better, be ready.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
On offense, Bonix has weapons to succeed.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
The O line is one of the best, and the
team has greatly improved with skill positions and especially true
running back and tight end. It simply all comes down
to bo Nick's building upon his very solid rookie year.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Those are fan comments. Are you sure those aren't AI
generated dot? What fan talks like that?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Next one?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Nix is the fix? All right, that's closer.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Next one, it's Peyton's place. Seasons Lots of the cast
has returned and there are some new stars taking recurring roles.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
This is the first season.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Buddy, your literary one pessimistic.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Take go ahead hit me with this one from a
be all Bright all Bright.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
All the hype, it just.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Never pans out. No, that wouldn't be That's not how
I talk anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But only one point three percent responded, I'm happy that
fans are that optimistic. I guess I you know, this
has potential to be a good season for the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I just get worried when everybody gets in on something
like that. I'm like, we has had something excited. I mean, like,
I look at this team and I'm like, you know,
I don't think they're beating the Ravens. I don't think
they're beating the Bills. I'll put them in that second
tier in the AFC, in the middle of that second
tier in the AFC, and I think you're a wildcard team,
and I think, uh, you know, I think you could.
(06:56):
I mean, anything can happen once you get in the playoffs.
But those two teams I think are in a class
by themselves. I'm very optimistic. Nice.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Nice, there's the only amount of time we got eight
minutes into the show for a wet blanket all Bright drop.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm optimistic about the team as well.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But I do think ninety eight point seven percent of
respondents seems a touch on the high side.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Like, at what point, what level is a disappointing season?
Now that's the level of optimism. What is the bar
to clear to not be a disappointment? I think ten
nine wins and you're and this is disappointing. The season
is just a waste. Looking we're declining our invitation to
the n I T I mean, am I wrong? I
(07:38):
mean I don't think so. I mean, but it's entirely
possible with a tougher schedule that you could go.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean, it wasn't any respondent here saying super Bowl
or bust.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No, I mean, that isn't That isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I mean, that's an indicting level of optimism right there.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Number two is Philadelphia, I mean, and that makes said.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They're coming off a super Bowl, Like I get it,
but on the lower and they kept literally everything.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Three percent, so pretty close. Yeah, Tampa Bay's ninety seven
point one, Baltimore ninety two. Yeah, that's pretty high. That
might be a little high for I was a little surprised.
Detroit number five, ninety five point four. I think they're
gonna take a step back this year, and I think
a lot of people think that Bill's ninety three point four.
But Bill's fans, Bill fans have lived.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Through so much.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I understand Bill's fans not having the level of optimism
commisser with their.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Level of talent. I actually get it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I actually thought that number movie flipped like Bill's fans
like we're racy before we ready to be hurt again.
We played just before I lived through Marvle. I actually
thought that was gonna be you. I don't think you'll
guess who's number the dead last on this list, the
dead last optimism.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I was surprised it was not Saints.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It was not you think mean.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like clevelandt you think Saints with thirty one, although Cleveland's
been hurt so much.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like I sort of get it, there's probably closer to
the middle.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Seven percent optimism, seven percent Giants Giant No Giant Yets,
I'm sorry, Jets.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No Jets were Like.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yorkers are irrationally optimistic about their teams too, so Brown
Browns were twenty eight. I'm trying, like, seven percent optimism.
Who's that pessimistic about their team right now?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Tennessee?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Maybe no, they well they're pretty high. Actually, let me
see here, hold on bad this year? Yeah, uh no,
they're fifty three percent. Okay, but they're above water, all right. Yeah,
Jet Jets are the first mark of a team that
was below forty two. Dolphins at nineteen, Brown's at eighteen,
Cowboys at thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's after the Parsons, say the Parsons's at nine. There's
a team with lower opims.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There's team was lower optimist.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Realize the bye week actually.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Had a tame and it's a team the Broncs are playing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Oh my god, what the Colts.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes, the Indianapolis Colts come in at six point eight
percent optimism, Okay, which is remarkable because I've been telling
you a weeks now that I look at.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Them, Yeah, they're gonna be a wild part team.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Ben. But you know what, after I read the comments,
I kind of understand why it's the switch of quarterback.
It's Anthony Richardson not panning out because it's this coaching staff,
it's this GM that chose Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He did not win the starting job. They're going to
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And most of the people are on the league don't
think Daniel Jones is a starting caliber quarterback. So you're
going into the season with not only did our franchise
guy that took fourth overall not pan out, but now
we're going.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
To Danny Dimes.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So see, that's that's the irrational thinking of fans, because
you're going from giving up on somebody who was clearly
not a starter at this point to somebody who can
and has started in this league and gives you a
better chance to win, and somehow your your optimism goes down.
It's funny how when you have the quarterback of the future,
the irrational optimism, you know, amazing it is. That's what
(10:51):
it was like the quarterback Tennessee. They just drafted a guy.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now they have irrationally they're gonna be the worst team
in that division, and they have quadruple the optimism of
Colts fifty possibles. I mean, Tennessee gets to five wins.
I'm gonna be stunned this one right here, pessimist. Take
at this rate, they're gonna keep putting up that Andrew
Luck retirement graphic until the end of time.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oach.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That is the That is a fan blase in a
dark place.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know what. That that's an example right there, like
we say.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Taking care of business for the Broncos, right, that includes
taking care of teams that don't think they're gonna be
very good. Right. And this, now this is a fan
base speaking, but the fan base sometimes echoes what is
the vibe around the team. And so Tennessee they're they're
coming in with house money, like they got a rookie quarterback.
There could be into Denver. It's besides Tomorrow Night with
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the Cowboys and Eagles. It's the largest line of the
entire slate, isn't it seven and a half?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Is it's eight? By the way, I think half of
Tomorrow Night, right, that one jumped after the Parsons deal,
and I think Arizona is in that mix to over
New Orleans. But I think it was the big line.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You get my point, Like, the biggest line, the biggest
spread of the entire weekend is that game with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And Tights and the Titans come in here.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's like, hey man, whatever we do, it's gravy, you know,
don't get too bag done. Maybe maybe we go in
there and steal this because everybody thinks the Broncos are
gonna winit it. Maybe the Broncos are overlooking us a
little bit. See, I don't think you come in with
that at all. I think that's the attitude you start
getting week two and week three. If you're that team
in week one, it's a blank sleeve.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You could be anything. You could be. You could be
a super Bowl champion. Look this week my history box.
Yeah we got we got cam Warrere.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
We might be.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So I think you come into this thing with an
irrational confidence. If you're the if you're the Tide, Yeah,
we're gonna come into their house. We're gonna put it
to them. They're the one's sleeping on us. And then
you know, you kind of figure out who you are
two three weeks now. This is the same thing with
Seattle beat US was two years in a row or
whatever to open the season and the first year, like
Channel didn't know they were supposed to be bad, you
(12:50):
know kind of thing and brea. There are situations like that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You saw that last year I.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Think with who was it the beat Sinsey Patriots? The Patriots, Uh,
you know, they they put everything into that one game.
You know they've been studied it all off season, circled
and s Yeah, and they come in and they win
that game and the Bengals didn't take them. Storis Bailey's happy, yeah, happy,
and the Brian that's not right now, so the but yeah,
that's I mean, that's what happened. You come in with
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it a rash because you don't know you're supposed to
be bad.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yet you come in your play lights out.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I guess a team that's napping on you because they
think they got a warm up game to start, and
you know, there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's how New England beat Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Sorry Grant, keep bringing that up, but that's how New
England beat Cincinnati last year in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What I was just talking about New.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Sorry, I thought you were talking about something, but New
England coming in here a few years ago when we
had Rush here, that was That was the one I
was thinking about.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I was talking about last year.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But yeah, yeah, I was thinking about I was thinking
about a couple of years ago with Bailey Zappa. The
Broncos needed that game. Yeah, it was in prime time.
They had to have it.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
By the way, a little betting tip the fade the
favorites in Week one okay, you know, like all of them,
like all of them faid the favorites of Week one
you'll come out ahead. The league hasn't figured it like.
I'll just tell you. You can go back and look
this up. Fade the favorites and in week one one okay,
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We'll be back in action this Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
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Speaker 3 (14:29):
That'll be fun. Yeah, I am looking forward to all
of it. I'm looking forward to the new partnership with
Bet three six five. They're on the open line. I'm
looking forward to having my heart broken every week in
Fantasy by whatever team. The last year was what the Falcons.
Anything I said to do with the Falcons, it was
the opposite side. Whatever team it is. This year, we
haven't figured it out. Yet, but it'll be one of
them where I'm on the opposite side of whatever it
is they do this week.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, you get into this headspace on teams and you
just can't be convinced otherwise, and you do the same
thing in fantasy. Right, we'll get to the Fantasy picks.
You'd be like, I'm avoiding that guy. I'm like, yeah,
to your own detriment continually every single time. But I'll
go ahead and take free money. I've already started put
together much of my DFS lineup. I'm pretty excited about it,
but at least I have my principles.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, and you're a plus rating on Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I kiss a death. I got that. I got that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was like, oh no, no, I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Was cussing, man. It was not good.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So as I saw that thing come through you you're
the number one in the league a plan, I was.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Like, oh my god, I'm coming in last in this league.
It's already over before it started, all.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Right, So we're gonna hear from Sean Payton, We're gonna
hear from bo Nix coming up here in just a
little bit some of their thoughts.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Drake green Law did not practice today, per media reports,
we'll see what the official ruling is on the practice
war when comes out here a little bit later on
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
We're fired up.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I do want to I'm going to ask you about
the Titans and what kind of team you think they'll
be a little bit of preview here. Obviously, know about
cam Ward, know about Brian Callahan. Is that a bright
I keep wanting to say Bryce because that right in
the corner. Yeah, yes, Bryce Callahana was also a corner
in Tennise. Yeah, there's a lot Callahan's out there. Call auto,
you know, yeah, you know you can get a good
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look at a t bone. I I know that there's
a lot of discussion about how good their offensive line is.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That is like the the you know, whatever scouting report
you're gonna read about the Tennessee Titans is gonna start with
their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I really have no basis.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean, if you go off last year's numbers, the
defense is not good.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I don't know, man, what.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do you what are your expectations of the Titans?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Because because I was reading Bill Barnwell, I think this
Bill waldermworld take. Staying with the the fletic, they actually
are like I'm buying the hype.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I'm buying the cam Ward hype. I'm buying cam Ward
a little bit, but i mean not in Week one.
Talk to me mid season and that the Titans may
get a backdoor cover on the Broncos. But that's the
only way I'm worried about. I'm only worried about that.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Bryan Callahan, by the way, as a head coach in
the NFL, is the worst at covering the spread.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He only covers the spread eleven percent of the time. Like,
not only they lose, they blown out, Like you said,
then the numbers.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Just looking at the numbers from last year, like the
side by side, they had a negative sixteen turnover margin.
Now again they had a terrible offense and terrible quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, but a rookie cam Ward in his first start
on the road against Denver. Sorry, if I'm not buying,
I'm not buying.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Their defense was one of the worst in red zone sacks.
I mean all of it. This should be this should
be a four hundred yard game for bow and you're
gonna get a multi interception day out of the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
They actually were good against the pass.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's that's the one thing they can hang their hat
on last year, whether that's going to continue or not.
They're the second best defense, second best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know why that was because teams were already up
on them and running the ball a lot. Yeah, they
were twenty sixth. Then rushing teams were up on teams
were up on them, and they just started They quit
pass and just ran the ball thirtieth in points, giving
up just saying twenty se what happened one anytime you
see those that kind of disparity with the run pass
and it's a loser team. That's what happened. They got
up on them the front.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They were underwater by nine points per game. They scored
eighteen and they gave up twenty seven. Yeah, that's that's
entirely too much on both sides of the needle.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You know, you want to be at the twenty four mark,
above the twenty four on offense and below the twenty
four on defense, and they are. They were you know, underwater.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
U B tenth last year, scoring twenty five points per game.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
If I ask you right now over under that, which
would you bet the most time under?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think they padded the total a little bit when
they get to blowout against Kansas City, and you know
there's some of those games where they padded the total
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But then they're also theoretically hopefully not going to.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Have the slowest darts the Jetski like.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That point game, like, you're not gonna have there, You're
not gonna have another Browns barn burner where your your
defense is and you know I was doing that. I
mean unless people get hurt, so you know, I don't
think it might be a barn burner you had. I
don't think maybe we'll see I feel like this defense,
which was not hell in that Bengals game, will be
a lot healthier this year hopefully. I just don't think
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you're gonna have as many shootouts late in the season
because both your corners are hurt. And I don't think
you're gonna have a blowout give me game where you're
playing Kansas City's backups, you know, and you win that
was at thirty five nothing or whatever it was. Yeah,
but if you take out the like that ads basically
a point to the end.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, No, I understand where you're going.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm just saying, like, if you take out the worst
and you take out the best right somewhere in the middle.
Like so the ten point game against the Jets, like,
hopefully you won't have.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
A monsoon game. Maybe you will, who knows, it's London.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You're fair, but let's just say like you're not gonna
have the slower start like you did against Seattle, against Pittsburgh,
against I mean, tim Bay actually had a pretty good
offensive output.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But the other two games, and then you mix in the.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Jets game, I mean, it was it was a tough
start to the season, especially for offense. Now they picked
things up, and you're right, they had some They had
some back and forth games like the Browns game. They
scored some points against the Bengals, they scored some points
obviously against the the the Chargers lay as well, but
even but the Chiefs game at Arrowhead was a really
low scoring game for both teams. There'll be a few
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of those because of just the nature of what the
NFL is, especially with a defense like this, there would
be games where the Broncos are gonna play let's not
make a mistake that is critical because our defense is
pitching a shutout or pitching a very good game. That's
going to happen I take the over on that I
honestly and again this is maybe is after bringing ninety
eight point seven.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
If everything's going right, the scoring should be down. You
know why, because they committed to the run game and
they're chewing up more clock doing that. If everything is
going according to plan, the scoring output might be down
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That's another what blank take it? What blanket take? That's
what that feels like.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I'm saying. If everything is going right, you know you're
able to control clock some more late game possessions like
you know where you're just salting the thing away. If
everything's going correctly, you could be better and have the
scoring output go down, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Text line five six six nine zero. They were ten
last year twenty five points per game? Would you take
the over the under on that point?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Twenty five even last year for the Broncos, tenth in
the league. Obviously we're all hoping over. But what would
you pick? Would you pick the over the under if
you had to put something on it? All right, we'll
come back. We'll talk about some more of that been
put out his season preview. We'll get into some of that.
We'll hear from Sean Payton and Bonix coming up next
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on KA feeling of being overlooked, like I've seen that
even on Twitter today people are saying I miss the
days when the Broncos were overlooked or being the underdog and.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Nobody saw us coming.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And last year was a lot of fun I think
as a results of that, like we hear locally all
thought higher of the team than they were viewed nationally.
I mean five and a half is what it was, right,
and there were re money last year. There were quite
a few hunts out there that were screaming take the
under on the Broncos at five and a half, and
it was It was very satisfying, extremely satisfying for the
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Broncos to not only clear that by clear that by
a country mile and make the postseason for the first
time since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
But at the same time, this.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Was going to eventually happen, like to the point of
view and other people out there that maybe long for
the days of being the underdog and being overlooked, eventually
you were going to be good enough that teams or
people out there were going to believe that you have
a chance to do something. So maybe the Broncos are
in the midway spot of that. Technically, maybe they're some
of the optimism and belief in them is maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
A year early.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I guess we could get into that discussion.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But eventually you're going to get back to this place,
right I think we just have forgotten what it's like.
It has been over a decade since the Broncos were one
of the teams to be talked about, and right now
they're one of the teams. Like that fan optimism article
that we went over at the beginning the show, that's
not base out of people just living in a cave,
and we know the underserved cave dwelling and Bronco fan
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population in this poll.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I guess I should always be careful.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You could never tell you you could never come down
on I'm just saying that it's it's based on what
they see with this team, what they saw last year,
and then reading and listening to a lot of reaction
to this team as well locally and nationally.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, and I'm fine. I mean, if you know, I'm
not trying to tamp anyone's optimism down. I'm just saying it's,
you know, it worries me when I see people get
that universal you know, usually the team that that has
that or that people have that irrational sort of optimism
about winds up being the Chargers who failed to live
up to it, you know what I mean. And so
it's it's fascinating to see this Broncos team sort of
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the driver's seat. I think it's a year early for
that level of optimism. But you know, I've been wrong before,
I'll be wrong again and I'm I'm happy to be
proven wrong. If that's the case. I'd love to see,
you know, Bronco's being successful and makes my job more fun,
makes my.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Job more easy. A couple of text coming in here.
We'll hear from Sean Payton. Just a second. I asked people,
as we were going to break at twenty five points
per game on offense last year, if they would believe
the over could hit this year. That was tenth best
in the league with the over or the under of that.
What would you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This one?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Sean favors the passing game. He wants to show off
his quarterback take the overall day. That's one text. The
next one with this defense probably scoring twenty one is enough.
And I think that was to your point that the
defense and theoretically a better running game, you may not
necessarily need to have that, But well, I think it
goes back further because the magic numbers twenty four.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Most coaches in the NFL the magic numbers twenty four.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You want to be under that on defense and over
that on offense, right, And that's their magic number. Now,
whether if you've got a better defense and that allows
you to get away with more, that's fine, but that's
sort of the magic number in coaching circles. If I
can get twenty four game out of my offense and
my defense keeps them below twenty four, we're gonna win
every game.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And by the way, so again we mentioned that Mike
Liss reported the Drake Green Law to that practice. Today
the official practice spore come out Sean Payton when he
was asked about Drake Green Law, he basically said, I
am not going to tell you where we're at with players.
We're gonna put out with the league man dated practice
report based on what happened out here. He's like, but
I'm not going to get to get into and I
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understand why from a competition standpoint. If you're giving an
update on a player, you're also telling everybody where they're
at and yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
He said going forward, he's not going to address it idiots. Yeah,
I mean fine, I mean, okay, fine, you'll see it
on the injury report a lot of times. We just
want context and clarification on that kind of stuff, and
I don't know it sort of It sort of bugs
me sometimes how certain NFL teams operate like like they
are a Clindestine intelligence organization. I'm like, buddy, you've got
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a decade and a half a tape on your offense
out there.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
There are no secrets.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
A couple more texts coming in here, five six, six
nine zeros O kay with common spirit out text line.
A real question what weakness to the Broncos address this offseason.
They basically increase their strength with injury prone players. It
really depends on bo and hisquoe unuote jump forward. As
cliche as that sounds, well, I mean it is. Certainly
some of the optimism is based on the belief that
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Bonnicks will take a step forward. I mean it was
like the Houston Texans last year, who won a relatively
weak division, but everybody thought, well c J. Stroud was
the rookie of the Year. He's the MVP conversation. He's
going to be in the MVP conversation. In that offense,
he's going to be a wagon especially once they added
Stefon Diggs and and Jel Mixon, who was very good obviously,
but there was this expectation.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Of a massive jump forward. It just ultimately didn't really happen.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And there's some reasons, the offensive line performance and some
of the coaching decisions. I mean, there was a lot
of reasons for that. They still won the division. So
the Broncos, even if we're not like we sometimes do
get a little bit out of where our skis on projections,
and maybe for bon Nicks some of the optimism is
a little bit unbridled.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
But at the same time, I think you have a reasonable.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Conversation to say, as I mentioned the first segment, maybe
you don't start as slow for Bonix, Like, maybe the
start is a little faster this year than it was
last year, and you hope that you can close this wrong. Now,
if you flip the script and let's say you start
faster but then you fall apart in the end, well gosh,
then that's gonna be a different dialogue about this team.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Isn't it. Which I'm gonna be honest, if you take
away the Kansas City game from last year, that's what
happened last year. The Broncos started slow and faded late
ency on offense, and the offense got better, but the
team faded late the defense of right. Some of that
was the injury obviously, but I'm just saying, if we're
being honest here, that is what happened last year. We
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got a guinea game with Kansas City's backups and back
door into the playoffs, and that that's I think what
that optimum is it built off, which is why I've
got one foot on the brake as I'm driving this thing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I hope they get off to a faster start this year.
There's a continuity there.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You certainly have an easier schedule to start this year
than you did last year.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Most most of your takes are one foot of the break.
Let's be honest, though.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh well, I mean, you know it's important to drive safely,
you know, not exceed posted speeds ten and two. I
have my car just give me an alert anytime I
exceed thirty five miles an hour, just to be just
to be safe. Yeah, yeah, that's not a thing I know.
But I mean, as you look at they call you
the governor for a reason, right, they call me an anchor.
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That's just like driving a car throwing out the window,
Not that I'm the anchor of this defense.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
When you're asked to anchor some coverage, you're like, hey.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
No, I mean, look, I think they're I think they
did address some things, but they are relying on some
injury luck. They are relying on continued injury luck. They
are relying on bo taking a step forward. They are
relying on a brand new run game. It maybe doesn't
favor some of the personnel that you have.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You keep bringing up the Chiefs game.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I didn't bring that up in that No, No, you just
you did.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Just bring it up again?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Just what saved everybody from talking about a late season slide.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's just not how I remember it. And then maybe
that's my.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
View on it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't know. I don't hear a lot of Broncos
fans including that in their reasons for opt the business.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's why they didn't.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I mean, that's why we don't talk about it, is
because they won that game. Well no, no, I'm saying I'm
saying when they're talking about the reasons for optimism, it
wasn't blowing out the quote unquote JV team of the
Kansas City Chiefs in the final week of the season.
Nobody's talking, Nobody talks about it as a real NFL win.
I mean, they needed it, right, they needed it to
be able to actually there was a tiebreaker situation. They
actually didn't need it, but they needed it to I
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think for the psyche of everybody to emphatically win that
game and move into the postseason on a bit of
an upswing. The wane of the season was more to
do with the defense than the offense. The offense was
finding its footing and by the way, Bonix was playing
with a broken back the entire time. But regardless of
all that, I haven't heard a single Broncos fan out
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there ben using that game as well. We did beat
the Chiefs at the end of the season, nobody's nobody's
even in coming saying it. The reason that they're building
their optimism was on far many other things. In fact,
I don't even think that makes the list of reasons
for optimism.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
That you went one and one with the Chiefs. Didn't
say it was like, that's not. What I'm saying is
you lose that game against their starters and you're nine
to eight, you don't make the playoffs. And we're probably
having a different discussion right now. So whether you're using
that or not, it does factor in it now. Again,
that was the defense at the end of the year,
that sort of you know, and the injuries to it.
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That was the problem ever since bo broke his back.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
The lowest they scored was twenty four and that was
in that Cincinnati game.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But post by week you squeaked one out against the Colts,
largely because and I say squeaked it out. This final
score was not indicative of that game.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
If Taylor scores that touchdown and doesn't drop the ball
before he crosses the goal line.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You lock.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean, there you are driving with the brake on again.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You lost to the Chargers, and some of that was
on some dumb coaching decisions. You lost to the Bengals
on some of that was some dumb coaching decisions. And
then you turn around and Blue Kansas City's backups out
and got in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, the governor, I prefer boat anchor.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
For the Broncos last year in games where they allowed
twenty more points, one exactly one of them, and that
would be the Brown shootout.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, listen that those are other examples, honestly, and the
text line is crushing you right now, but I mean went.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
One in six in games they allowed over twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
The point of it is is like there are some
things where you could point to, well, they caught this
break or I mean the Jets game is another break.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Right, the Jets had a chance to win that game
with a field goal and they missed it.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I mean, you don't have the block against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The Chiefs executed that perfectly.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But those are examples of plays that happened in the
NFL every single week and usually work out.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It just didn't so happen to work out with the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You talked about the fumble with Jonathan Taylor, and the
text line is pointing it out, like there are moments
last year where hey, Troy Franklin makes this catch and
you know, if Cortland Sutton doesn't drop this pass, and
so we could do the back and forth ifs you
pointed out the reasons why they won a couple of
games because those ifs, and certainly I think that is
true on the other side of saying, well, if these
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other things that were bad didn't happen, they would have
won those games instead. So the thing happen really for
every team every single season except for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
The Chiefs always find a way to kind of minimize
those ifs.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
They find a way to maximize them almost every single time,
and which is why we tend to say the Chiefs
are kind.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Of in everybody's head, right.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Plus you get all the calls from Lebron mahomes flopping there.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It does help.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, somebody asked, how do we feel about the red
Zone news. Actually we have some updated on that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, the NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
By the way, the NFL controls commercials there, not ESPN.
ESPN doesn't have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But it's natural I think for a lot of fans
when when they're at ESPN buying it, they assume that
ESPN was putting.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
The commercials on the Red Zone channel. The NFL has
since kind of dialed that back. They've come out and
dialed that back.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So what they're gonna do is they're gonna do side
by side boxes for these commercials. Where they'll still leave
the red zone channel up and on your screen, but
the audio will flip over to the commercial or the
commercials for a.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Few minutes, and then they'll and then they'll go back.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And I get that from a Scott's got a rested
his voice at some point, you know, perspective. I don't
like he is paying a subscription for something. And then also,
you know, I don't do getting double taxed. I just don't.
So you know that's that's you know, we don't want
get in a political thing, but you know that's there's
these tariffs are crap, but.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I don't I don't do getting double taxed over here
political however, allow me to go political versus Ah. You know,
I'm just saying, if you support if, if you're a
if you're a big proponent of getting taxed more, you
support tariffs, good for you anyways. But yes, that that
is a walk back, because earlier today when Scott was
on the Pat McAfee show and they announced that there
will be commercial breaks, people.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Lost their minds.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And to your point, justifiably, if you're already paying the
premium to have red zone and then all of a
sudden to find out today that it was going to
have commercials in it. Yeah, that was that was pretty
disappointing news. But to hear they walked it back and
that that seems like a nice compromise. Like in the end,
you know, Pat was getting crushed because he said people
aren't aren't gonna be bothered by it. It's like people
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are very bothered by a path. They're very bothered by
the red zone and be in sudden one of the
last benchmarks of our society where you just knew you
could set your watch to the fact you watch seven
uninterrupted hours of football, and now that's gone. But then
to walk it back, which the thing is, the NFL
does this right. They react to everything, but they float
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these things out there and they're like, oh boy, that
didn't go the way we thought of it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
We pull it back a little. You already got your
anger out. We reached a compromise. Even though there was
no compromise, they still get exactly what they wanted, didn'
the commercials in there in additional revenue stream.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, but at least you leave it up on the
screen marketing one on one. You can at least see
the play as.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It's kind of bouncing around. So yeah, so they're gonna
split screen that. So there's people in the text slide
that are calling me nick Wright.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That get out of here, hey man, all the clown
takes to have I mean, you're just still they can
disagree with you without being dumb like well, it goes
back to and it's it's kind of on brand for you,
and you know, I love you, but it's on brand
for you because you're pointing out all the ways in
which the season could have gone last year. Instead, I'm
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just saying instead of the other side of it, when
you could have led with hey, and if this play
didn't happen, they actually probably would have won this game.
If this play didn't happen, they they had a chance
to win this game. Like your ifs started with the
ways in which the season should have or could have gone.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Much worse, My IFFs are on process. A lot of
these people are basing on results, and that's and that's
I think the difference is I'm looking at the process,
which which what leads to consistent result one way or
the other, or leads to outliers. And so if you
have things like a player dropping a ball before that
never happens, come on. You know, if you have things
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like that that change things on a dime, those things
just don't happen. Wide receiver drops, yeah, those happen.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Still relatively early in the game though.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
By the way, the Jonathan Taylor fumble, Yeah, but they
were about to go yeah, no, it would have been big.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Listen, this is a big play. I'm not I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I just built off that momentum, momentum Like you were
in the stadium, you I was there, and I can
tell you like the momentum the error in the stadium
changed in that moment.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It went from to all we got this. It's undeniable.
I mean the Raiders game with the pick six from
Patzer ten.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It was an we got this.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, but that's momentum, and it does happen. All Right,
we come back.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Rick Lewis is going to join us get his thoughts
on the season, starting the Sunday
Benjamin ol Bryant Institutio. Hi, Ben, how's it going? It's
going great. The Broncos just announced their captains. We can
get that here in.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Just a second.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Rick Louse good Joints after four o'clock, get his thoughts
on the opening week of the NFL. And just here,
my friend, it is. We are one day away, one
day away. Are you excited to hear who the captains
are for the Broncos?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Don't care. Bonnix is gonna be one of them, because
your quarterback is always one of them unless you're the
Saints Pats.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Or Tan's obviously gonna be one of them. Two Quinn
Minors is obviously going to be one of them.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Three court and Sutton's gonna be one of them.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Have four more?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We had eight captains? Oh Jesus, all right? Zach Allen dope?
Oh wow? Okay, Trey green Law nope, uh, I'm running
out of names here. Who did I miss? On off? Well?
Will Watts? It's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
If you have three more U and I'm missing three defenders?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Another inside linebacker?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Singleton?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Ye? All right?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Way and e line not Zach Allen?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well? Only these Jones J Jones Okay, that's weird, man. Interesting,
if Brandon Jones, you've been here two years and the
who FUA comes in free agent gets voted captain over you.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
You will and then yeah, I mean so, then the
opposite is true with Alex Singleton.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
The eyebrow raise, I guess is Dre green Law per
Mike Cliss working out on the side field today, not practicing.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We'll see what the official practice before comes out here.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Sean Payton's talking right now, so I'm sure he'll give
us some information on that. But yeah, Drake green Law,
they're they're well, they just say they're gonna limit his reps.
We've taught, we talked about that, have been on Friday.
You concerned it all? No?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean, uh, with Frick with limited reps his overall health. Yeah,
I'm concerned with this. Hell, that's I've been concerned with that.
I talked about the inside backer position back at the
draft when I was like, yeah, we got two guys
that are coming off of injury, a third guy with
an injury history, and a fourth guy who hasn't learned
the position yet in Sanders. Well, Sanders went and got hurt.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Greenlaw reaggravated Singleton.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Broke his thumb, and we get to Karan Reid who's
a special teamer, and Lavelle Bailey on the practice squad.
So eight captains, that's a lot. It's a little little captains,
a little much, okay. I mean, listen, man, if they're
all deserving side of the Saints, was there any team
that didn't have the quarterback as their captain, because.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That's the thing, like everybody goes oos and all the
quarterbacks the captain. I'm like, yeah, everybody, that's it's not news.
If the quarter it's news. If he's not sure, Well,
these there aren't thirty two quarterbacks out there that are
leaders on their team. Let's me know.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But Boenix was a captain as a rookie.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It would have been really weird if he wasn't obviously
in this case, and I think all of us expected that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I think it's to be more about what some of.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The other positions and and do you really need to
have eight captains. I was listening to JJ Waterler today
on Pat McAfee, and he was talking about how his
preferences won on offense, one on defense, one of special teams,
and I mean, in the end it's like whatever, if
this is how they want to structure the leadership and
how Sean is going to communicate to the locker room
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at times and expect these guys, these guys are all
leaders in the locker room. Like quindn Minors is your
best offensive lineman, Corland Sutton's your wide receiver, one Bone
Nix obviously is your quarterback. I mean we talk about
the you know, in the secondary passer tan. I guess
a little surprise there with Tallano Hufanga being a captain
DJ Jones, but hey, it is what it is. Yea
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tis the people out there with some hot takes about it.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I just don't have one. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
I mean DJ get he is a vocal leader. I
mean that that's one of those things. I mean you
think normally you think your star players, but not all
of them are vocal leaders, you know, not all of
them are guys that when you when you're doing the
captains things sometimes about guys that set the standard or
guys that are willing to hold other guys accountable. And
so that's that DJ, that that sort of makes sense.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
That is that is just breaking ron because of a
now their captains and we are into game week very excited.
You know, I do want to get into Titans today
a little bit with you, and certainly you put out
your season predictions for the AFC and NFC.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
We talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
There's a really fun article on the athletic the hopometer.
I don't know if you saw this article, but they
talked about the optimism level for every franchise the fan base.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Just see where the Broncos came in on that one.
I did not.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You want to guess the optimism one through thirty two.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Probably in the top seven or eight, keep going down.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Up, okay, Yeah, like optimism is higher optimism fan optimism.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Is at all time high here. So you said top
seven or eight, keep going.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I mean okay. If I had to put a number on,
I put like third one, number one, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And the NFL is graded on ninety eight point seven
percent optimism.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So they asked, they asked a bunch of fans. This
just like getting the A plus grade from Yahoo on
your fantasy team after the draft, which you did by
the way here at last I know, because so rip
my season, Yeah, probably go up before a fall man
ask Eagles fans about the dream team and all that stuff.
Anytime you start getting that unanimous optimism, that's.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
When stuff starts going wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Don't do that. Guys have measured optimism here. Let them
sleep on.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Us ninety eight point seven percent optimism. I'll read you
some of the comments because they actually got comments from
Broncos fans on this. Okay, after a decade in the ABYSS,
we're finally back. The defense should be great at all
levels with the reigning defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Teams be better, teams be better, be ready.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
On offense, Bonix has weapons to succeed.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
The O line is one of the best, and the
team has greatly improved with skill positions and especially true
running back and tight end. It simply all comes down
to bo Nick's building upon his very solid rookie year.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Those are fan comments. Are you sure those aren't AI
generated dot? What fan talks like that?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Next one?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Nix is the fix? All right, that's closer.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Next one, it's Peyton's place. Seasons Lots of the cast
has returned and there are some new stars taking recurring roles.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
This is the first season.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
We get it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Buddy, your literary one pessimistic.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Take go ahead hit me with this one from a
be all Bright all Bright.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
All the hype, it just.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Never pans out. No, that wouldn't be That's not how
I talk anyway.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But only one point three percent responded, I'm happy that
fans are that optimistic. I guess I you know, this
has potential to be a good season for the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I just get worried when everybody gets in on something
like that. I'm like, we has had something excited. I mean, like,
I look at this team and I'm like, you know,
I don't think they're beating the Ravens. I don't think
they're beating the Bills. I'll put them in that second
tier in the AFC, in the middle of that second
tier in the AFC, and I think you're a wildcard team,
and I think, uh, you know, I think you could.
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I mean, anything can happen once you get in the playoffs.
But those two teams I think are in a class
by themselves. I'm very optimistic. Nice.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Nice, there's the only amount of time we got eight
minutes into the show for a wet blanket all Bright drop.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm optimistic about the team as well.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But I do think ninety eight point seven percent of
respondents seems a touch on the high side.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Like, at what point, what level is a disappointing season?
Now that's the level of optimism. What is the bar
to clear to not be a disappointment? I think ten
nine wins and you're and this is disappointing. The season
is just a waste. Looking we're declining our invitation to
the n I T I mean, am I wrong? I
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mean I don't think so. I mean, but it's entirely
possible with a tougher schedule that you could go.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean, it wasn't any respondent here saying super Bowl
or bust.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No, I mean, that isn't That isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I mean, that's an indicting level of optimism right there.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Number two is Philadelphia, I mean, and that makes said.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They're coming off a super Bowl, Like I get it,
but on the lower and they kept literally everything.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Three percent, so pretty close. Yeah, Tampa Bay's ninety seven
point one, Baltimore ninety two. Yeah, that's pretty high. That
might be a little high for I was a little surprised.
Detroit number five, ninety five point four. I think they're
gonna take a step back this year, and I think
a lot of people think that Bill's ninety three point four.
But Bill's fans, Bill fans have lived.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Through so much.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I understand Bill's fans not having the level of optimism
commisser with their.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Level of talent. I actually get it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I actually thought that number movie flipped like Bill's fans
like we're racy before we ready to be hurt again.
We played just before I lived through Marvle. I actually
thought that was gonna be you. I don't think you'll
guess who's number the dead last on this list, the
dead last optimism.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I was surprised it was not Saints.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It was not you think mean.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Like clevelandt you think Saints with thirty one, although Cleveland's
been hurt so much.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like I sort of get it, there's probably closer to
the middle.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Seven percent optimism, seven percent Giants Giant No Giant Yets,
I'm sorry, Jets.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
No Jets were Like.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yorkers are irrationally optimistic about their teams too, so Brown
Browns were twenty eight. I'm trying, like, seven percent optimism.
Who's that pessimistic about their team right now?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Tennessee?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Maybe no, they well they're pretty high. Actually, let me
see here, hold on bad this year? Yeah, uh no,
they're fifty three percent. Okay, but they're above water, all right. Yeah,
Jet Jets are the first mark of a team that
was below forty two. Dolphins at nineteen, Brown's at eighteen,
Cowboys at thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's after the Parsons, say the Parsons's at nine. There's
a team with lower opims.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There's team was lower optimist.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Realize the bye week actually.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Had a tame and it's a team the Broncs are playing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Oh my god, what the Colts.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes, the Indianapolis Colts come in at six point eight
percent optimism, Okay, which is remarkable because I've been telling
you a weeks now that I look at.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Them, Yeah, they're gonna be a wild part team.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Ben. But you know what, after I read the comments,
I kind of understand why it's the switch of quarterback.
It's Anthony Richardson not panning out because it's this coaching staff,
it's this GM that chose Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
He did not win the starting job. They're going to
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And most of the people are on the league don't
think Daniel Jones is a starting caliber quarterback. So you're
going into the season with not only did our franchise
guy that took fourth overall not pan out, but now
we're going.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
To Danny Dimes.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So see, that's that's the irrational thinking of fans, because
you're going from giving up on somebody who was clearly
not a starter at this point to somebody who can
and has started in this league and gives you a
better chance to win, and somehow your your optimism goes down.
It's funny how when you have the quarterback of the future,
the irrational optimism, you know, amazing it is. That's what
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it was like the quarterback Tennessee. They just drafted a guy.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Now they have irrationally they're gonna be the worst team
in that division, and they have quadruple the optimism of
Colts fifty possibles. I mean, Tennessee gets to five wins.
I'm gonna be stunned this one right here, pessimist. Take
at this rate, they're gonna keep putting up that Andrew
Luck retirement graphic until the end of time.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oach.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That is the That is a fan blase in a
dark place.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know what. That that's an example right there, like
we say.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Taking care of business for the Broncos, right, that includes
taking care of teams that don't think they're gonna be
very good. Right. And this, now this is a fan
base speaking, but the fan base sometimes echoes what is
the vibe around the team. And so Tennessee they're they're
coming in with house money, like they got a rookie quarterback.
There could be into Denver. It's besides Tomorrow Night with
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the Cowboys and Eagles. It's the largest line of the
entire slate, isn't it seven and a half?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Is it's eight? By the way, I think half of
Tomorrow Night, right, that one jumped after the Parsons deal,
and I think Arizona is in that mix to over
New Orleans. But I think it was the big line.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You get my point, Like, the biggest line, the biggest
spread of the entire weekend is that game with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And Tights and the Titans come in here.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's like, hey man, whatever we do, it's gravy, you know,
don't get too bag done. Maybe maybe we go in
there and steal this because everybody thinks the Broncos are
gonna winit it. Maybe the Broncos are overlooking us a
little bit. See, I don't think you come in with
that at all. I think that's the attitude you start
getting week two and week three. If you're that team
in week one, it's a blank sleeve.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You could be anything. You could be. You could be
a super Bowl champion. Look this week my history box.
Yeah we got we got cam Warrere.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
We might be.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So I think you come into this thing with an
irrational confidence. If you're the if you're the Tide, Yeah,
we're gonna come into their house. We're gonna put it
to them. They're the one's sleeping on us. And then
you know, you kind of figure out who you are
two three weeks now. This is the same thing with
Seattle beat US was two years in a row or
whatever to open the season and the first year, like
Channel didn't know they were supposed to be bad, you
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know kind of thing and brea. There are situations like that.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
You saw that last year I.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Think with who was it the beat Sinsey Patriots? The Patriots, Uh,
you know, they they put everything into that one game.
You know they've been studied it all off season, circled
and s Yeah, and they come in and they win
that game and the Bengals didn't take them. Storis Bailey's happy, yeah, happy,
and the Brian that's not right now, so the but yeah,
that's I mean, that's what happened. You come in with
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it a rash because you don't know you're supposed to
be bad.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yet you come in your play lights out.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I guess a team that's napping on you because they
think they got a warm up game to start, and
you know, there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's how New England beat Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Sorry Grant, keep bringing that up, but that's how New
England beat Cincinnati last year in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
What I was just talking about New.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Sorry, I thought you were talking about something, but New
England coming in here a few years ago when we
had Rush here, that was That was the one I
was thinking about.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I was talking about last year.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
But yeah, yeah, I was thinking about I was thinking
about a couple of years ago with Bailey Zappa. The
Broncos needed that game. Yeah, it was in prime time.
They had to have it.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
By the way, a little betting tip the fade the
favorites in Week one okay, you know, like all of them,
like all of them faid the favorites of Week one
you'll come out ahead. The league hasn't figured it like.
I'll just tell you. You can go back and look
this up. Fade the favorites and in week one one okay,
chambling problem caller text one gambler reminder. By the way,
the opening line brought to you by Bet three six five.
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We'll be back in action this Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Of course, our coverage for the entire day starts at
ADM with Benjaminal Bright and then at nine o'clock we'll
be on with the Befortts. Sorry, we're with the Bet
three six five opening line. Very excited about that, and
then we'll be off and rolling. We have the Fantasy
Show back again ten am. Broncos Game Day, the Jojoe
and Nick hanging out down there at Mini Male High.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That'll be fun. Yeah, I am looking forward to all
of it. I'm looking forward to the new partnership with
Bet three six five. They're on the open line. I'm
looking forward to having my heart broken every week in
Fantasy by whatever team. The last year was what the Falcons.
Anything I said to do with the Falcons, it was
the opposite side. Whatever team it is. This year, we
haven't figured it out. Yet, but it'll be one of
them where I'm on the opposite side of whatever it
is they do this week.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, you get into this headspace on teams and you
just can't be convinced otherwise, and you do the same
thing in fantasy. Right, we'll get to the Fantasy picks.
You'd be like, I'm avoiding that guy. I'm like, yeah,
to your own detriment continually every single time. But I'll
go ahead and take free money. I've already started put
together much of my DFS lineup. I'm pretty excited about it,
but at least I have my principles.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, and you're a plus rating on Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I kiss a death. I got that. I got that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I was like, oh no, no, I.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Was cussing, man. It was not good.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So as I saw that thing come through you you're
the number one in the league a plan, I was.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Like, oh my god, I'm coming in last in this league.
It's already over before it started, all.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Right, So we're gonna hear from Sean Payton, We're gonna
hear from bo Nix coming up here in just a
little bit some of their thoughts.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Again.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Drake green Law did not practice today, per media reports,
we'll see what the official ruling is on the practice
war when comes out here a little bit later on
this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
We're fired up.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I do want to I'm going to ask you about
the Titans and what kind of team you think they'll
be a little bit of preview here. Obviously, know about
cam Ward, know about Brian Callahan. Is that a bright
I keep wanting to say Bryce because that right in
the corner. Yeah, yes, Bryce Callahana was also a corner
in Tennise. Yeah, there's a lot Callahan's out there. Call auto,
you know, yeah, you know you can get a good
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look at a t bone. I I know that there's
a lot of discussion about how good their offensive line is.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That is like the the you know, whatever scouting report
you're gonna read about the Tennessee Titans is gonna start with
their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I really have no basis.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I mean, if you go off last year's numbers, the
defense is not good.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So I don't know, man, what.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Do you what are your expectations of the Titans?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Because because I was reading Bill Barnwell, I think this
Bill waldermworld take. Staying with the the fletic, they actually
are like I'm buying the hype.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I'm buying the cam Ward hype. I'm buying cam Ward
a little bit, but i mean not in Week one.
Talk to me mid season and that the Titans may
get a backdoor cover on the Broncos. But that's the
only way I'm worried about. I'm only worried about that.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Bryan Callahan, by the way, as a head coach in
the NFL, is the worst at covering the spread.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He only covers the spread eleven percent of the time. Like,
not only they lose, they blown out, Like you said,
then the numbers.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Just looking at the numbers from last year, like the
side by side, they had a negative sixteen turnover margin.
Now again they had a terrible offense and terrible quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, but a rookie cam Ward in his first start
on the road against Denver. Sorry, if I'm not buying,
I'm not buying.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Their defense was one of the worst in red zone sacks.
I mean all of it. This should be this should
be a four hundred yard game for bow and you're
gonna get a multi interception day out of the defense.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
They actually were good against the pass.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's that's the one thing they can hang their hat
on last year, whether that's going to continue or not.
They're the second best defense, second best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know why that was because teams were already up
on them and running the ball a lot. Yeah, they
were twenty sixth. Then rushing teams were up on teams
were up on them, and they just started They quit
pass and just ran the ball thirtieth in points, giving
up just saying twenty se what happened one anytime you
see those that kind of disparity with the run pass
and it's a loser team. That's what happened. They got
up on them the front.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
They were underwater by nine points per game. They scored
eighteen and they gave up twenty seven. Yeah, that's that's
entirely too much on both sides of the needle.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You know, you want to be at the twenty four mark,
above the twenty four on offense and below the twenty
four on defense, and they are. They were you know, underwater.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
U B tenth last year, scoring twenty five points per game.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
If I ask you right now over under that, which
would you bet the most time under?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think they padded the total a little bit when
they get to blowout against Kansas City, and you know
there's some of those games where they padded the total
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
But then they're also theoretically hopefully not going to.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Have the slowest darts the Jetski like.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
That point game, like, you're not gonna have there, You're
not gonna have another Browns barn burner where your your
defense is and you know I was doing that. I
mean unless people get hurt, so you know, I don't
think it might be a barn burner you had. I
don't think maybe we'll see I feel like this defense,
which was not hell in that Bengals game, will be
a lot healthier this year hopefully. I just don't think
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you're gonna have as many shootouts late in the season
because both your corners are hurt. And I don't think
you're gonna have a blowout give me game where you're
playing Kansas City's backups, you know, and you win that
was at thirty five nothing or whatever it was. Yeah,
but if you take out the like that ads basically
a point to the end.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, No, I understand where you're going.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I'm just saying, like, if you take out the worst
and you take out the best right somewhere in the middle.
Like so the ten point game against the Jets, like,
hopefully you won't have.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
A monsoon game. Maybe you will, who knows, it's London.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You're fair, but let's just say like you're not gonna
have the slower start like you did against Seattle, against Pittsburgh,
against I mean, tim Bay actually had a pretty good
offensive output.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But the other two games, and then you mix in the.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Jets game, I mean, it was it was a tough
start to the season, especially for offense. Now they picked
things up, and you're right, they had some They had
some back and forth games like the Browns game. They
scored some points against the Bengals, they scored some points
obviously against the the the Chargers lay as well, but
even but the Chiefs game at Arrowhead was a really
low scoring game for both teams. There'll be a few
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of those because of just the nature of what the
NFL is, especially with a defense like this, there would
be games where the Broncos are gonna play let's not
make a mistake that is critical because our defense is
pitching a shutout or pitching a very good game. That's
going to happen I take the over on that I
honestly and again this is maybe is after bringing ninety
eight point seven.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
If everything's going right, the scoring should be down. You
know why, because they committed to the run game and
they're chewing up more clock doing that. If everything is
going according to plan, the scoring output might be down
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That's another what blank take it? What blanket take? That's
what that feels like.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I'm saying. If everything is going right, you know you're
able to control clock some more late game possessions like
you know where you're just salting the thing away. If
everything's going correctly, you could be better and have the
scoring output go down, all right?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Text line five six six nine zero. They were ten
last year twenty five points per game? Would you take
the over the under on that point?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
What? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Twenty five even last year for the Broncos, tenth in
the league. Obviously we're all hoping over. But what would
you pick? Would you pick the over the under if
you had to put something on it? All right, we'll
come back. We'll talk about some more of that been
put out his season preview. We'll get into some of that.
We'll hear from Sean Payton and Bonix coming up next
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on KA feeling of being overlooked, like I've seen that
even on Twitter today people are saying I miss the
days when the Broncos were overlooked or being the underdog and.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Nobody saw us coming.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And last year was a lot of fun I think
as a results of that, like we hear locally all
thought higher of the team than they were viewed nationally.
I mean five and a half is what it was, right,
and there were re money last year. There were quite
a few hunts out there that were screaming take the
under on the Broncos at five and a half, and
it was It was very satisfying, extremely satisfying for the
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Broncos to not only clear that by clear that by
a country mile and make the postseason for the first
time since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
But at the same time, this.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Was going to eventually happen, like to the point of
view and other people out there that maybe long for
the days of being the underdog and being overlooked, eventually
you were going to be good enough that teams or
people out there were going to believe that you have
a chance to do something. So maybe the Broncos are
in the midway spot of that. Technically, maybe they're some
of the optimism and belief in them is maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
A year early.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I guess we could get into that discussion.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But eventually you're going to get back to this place,
right I think we just have forgotten what it's like.
It has been over a decade since the Broncos were one
of the teams to be talked about, and right now
they're one of the teams. Like that fan optimism article
that we went over at the beginning the show, that's
not base out of people just living in a cave,
and we know the underserved cave dwelling and Bronco fan
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population in this poll.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I guess I should always be careful.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
You could never tell you you could never come down
on I'm just saying that it's it's based on what
they see with this team, what they saw last year,
and then reading and listening to a lot of reaction
to this team as well locally and nationally.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, and I'm fine. I mean, if you know, I'm
not trying to tamp anyone's optimism down. I'm just saying it's,
you know, it worries me when I see people get
that universal you know, usually the team that that has
that or that people have that irrational sort of optimism
about winds up being the Chargers who failed to live
up to it, you know what I mean. And so
it's it's fascinating to see this Broncos team sort of
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the driver's seat. I think it's a year early for
that level of optimism. But you know, I've been wrong before,
I'll be wrong again and I'm I'm happy to be
proven wrong. If that's the case. I'd love to see,
you know, Bronco's being successful and makes my job more fun,
makes my.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Job more easy. A couple of text coming in here.
We'll hear from Sean Payton. Just a second. I asked people,
as we were going to break at twenty five points
per game on offense last year, if they would believe
the over could hit this year. That was tenth best
in the league with the over or the under of that.
What would you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
This one?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Sean favors the passing game. He wants to show off
his quarterback take the overall day. That's one text. The
next one with this defense probably scoring twenty one is enough.
And I think that was to your point that the
defense and theoretically a better running game, you may not
necessarily need to have that, But well, I think it
goes back further because the magic numbers twenty four.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Most coaches in the NFL the magic numbers twenty four.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
You want to be under that on defense and over
that on offense, right, And that's their magic number. Now,
whether if you've got a better defense and that allows
you to get away with more, that's fine, but that's
sort of the magic number in coaching circles. If I
can get twenty four game out of my offense and
my defense keeps them below twenty four, we're gonna win
every game.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And by the way, so again we mentioned that Mike
Liss reported the Drake Green Law to that practice. Today
the official practice spore come out Sean Payton when he
was asked about Drake Green Law, he basically said, I
am not going to tell you where we're at with players.
We're gonna put out with the league man dated practice
report based on what happened out here. He's like, but
I'm not going to get to get into and I
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understand why from a competition standpoint. If you're giving an
update on a player, you're also telling everybody where they're
at and yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
He said going forward, he's not going to address it idiots. Yeah,
I mean fine, I mean, okay, fine, you'll see it
on the injury report a lot of times. We just
want context and clarification on that kind of stuff, and
I don't know it sort of It sort of bugs
me sometimes how certain NFL teams operate like like they
are a Clindestine intelligence organization. I'm like, buddy, you've got
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a decade and a half a tape on your offense
out there.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
There are no secrets.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
A couple more texts coming in here, five six, six
nine zeros O kay with common spirit out text line.
A real question what weakness to the Broncos address this offseason.
They basically increase their strength with injury prone players. It
really depends on bo and hisquoe unuote jump forward. As
cliche as that sounds, well, I mean it is. Certainly
some of the optimism is based on the belief that
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Bonnicks will take a step forward. I mean it was
like the Houston Texans last year, who won a relatively
weak division, but everybody thought, well c J. Stroud was
the rookie of the Year. He's the MVP conversation. He's
going to be in the MVP conversation. In that offense,
he's going to be a wagon especially once they added
Stefon Diggs and and Jel Mixon, who was very good obviously,
but there was this expectation.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Of a massive jump forward. It just ultimately didn't really happen.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And there's some reasons, the offensive line performance and some
of the coaching decisions. I mean, there was a lot
of reasons for that. They still won the division. So
the Broncos, even if we're not like we sometimes do
get a little bit out of where our skis on projections,
and maybe for bon Nicks some of the optimism is
a little bit unbridled.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
But at the same time, I think you have a reasonable.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Conversation to say, as I mentioned the first segment, maybe
you don't start as slow for Bonix, Like, maybe the
start is a little faster this year than it was
last year, and you hope that you can close this wrong. Now,
if you flip the script and let's say you start
faster but then you fall apart in the end, well gosh,
then that's gonna be a different dialogue about this team.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Isn't it. Which I'm gonna be honest, if you take
away the Kansas City game from last year, that's what
happened last year. The Broncos started slow and faded late
ency on offense, and the offense got better, but the
team faded late the defense of right. Some of that
was the injury obviously, but I'm just saying, if we're
being honest here, that is what happened last year. We
(27:30):
got a guinea game with Kansas City's backups and back
door into the playoffs, and that that's I think what
that optimum is it built off, which is why I've
got one foot on the brake as I'm driving this thing.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I hope they get off to a faster start this year.
There's a continuity there.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You certainly have an easier schedule to start this year
than you did last year.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Most most of your takes are one foot of the break.
Let's be honest, though.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh well, I mean, you know it's important to drive safely,
you know, not exceed posted speeds ten and two. I
have my car just give me an alert anytime I
exceed thirty five miles an hour, just to be just
to be safe. Yeah, yeah, that's not a thing I know.
But I mean, as you look at they call you
the governor for a reason, right, they call me an anchor.
(28:10):
That's just like driving a car throwing out the window,
Not that I'm the anchor of this defense.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
When you're asked to anchor some coverage, you're like, hey.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
No, I mean, look, I think they're I think they
did address some things, but they are relying on some
injury luck. They are relying on continued injury luck. They
are relying on bo taking a step forward. They are
relying on a brand new run game. It maybe doesn't
favor some of the personnel that you have.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
You keep bringing up the Chiefs game.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I didn't bring that up in that No, No, you just
you did.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Just bring it up again?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Just what saved everybody from talking about a late season slide.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
That's just not how I remember it. And then maybe
that's my.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
View on it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't know. I don't hear a lot of Broncos
fans including that in their reasons for opt the business.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That's why they didn't.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I mean, that's why we don't talk about it, is
because they won that game. Well no, no, I'm saying I'm
saying when they're talking about the reasons for optimism, it
wasn't blowing out the quote unquote JV team of the
Kansas City Chiefs in the final week of the season.
Nobody's talking, Nobody talks about it as a real NFL win.
I mean, they needed it, right, they needed it to
be able to actually there was a tiebreaker situation. They
actually didn't need it, but they needed it to I
(29:20):
think for the psyche of everybody to emphatically win that
game and move into the postseason on a bit of
an upswing. The wane of the season was more to
do with the defense than the offense. The offense was
finding its footing and by the way, Bonix was playing
with a broken back the entire time. But regardless of
all that, I haven't heard a single Broncos fan out
(29:40):
there ben using that game as well. We did beat
the Chiefs at the end of the season, nobody's nobody's
even in coming saying it. The reason that they're building
their optimism was on far many other things. In fact,
I don't even think that makes the list of reasons
for optimism.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
That you went one and one with the Chiefs. Didn't
say it was like, that's not. What I'm saying is
you lose that game against their starters and you're nine
to eight, you don't make the playoffs. And we're probably
having a different discussion right now. So whether you're using
that or not, it does factor in it now. Again,
that was the defense at the end of the year,
that sort of you know, and the injuries to it.
(30:16):
That was the problem ever since bo broke his back.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
The lowest they scored was twenty four and that was
in that Cincinnati game.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But post by week you squeaked one out against the Colts,
largely because and I say squeaked it out. This final
score was not indicative of that game.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
If Taylor scores that touchdown and doesn't drop the ball
before he crosses the goal line.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You lock.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean, there you are driving with the brake on again.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You lost to the Chargers, and some of that was
on some dumb coaching decisions. You lost to the Bengals
on some of that was some dumb coaching decisions. And
then you turn around and Blue Kansas City's backups out
and got in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, the governor, I prefer boat anchor.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
For the Broncos last year in games where they allowed
twenty more points, one exactly one of them, and that
would be the Brown shootout.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, listen that those are other examples, honestly, and the
text line is crushing you right now, but I mean went.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
One in six in games they allowed over twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
The point of it is is like there are some
things where you could point to, well, they caught this
break or I mean the Jets game is another break.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Right, the Jets had a chance to win that game
with a field goal and they missed it.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I mean, you don't have the block against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
The Chiefs executed that perfectly.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
But those are examples of plays that happened in the
NFL every single week and usually work out.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It just didn't so happen to work out with the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You talked about the fumble with Jonathan Taylor, and the
text line is pointing it out, like there are moments
last year where hey, Troy Franklin makes this catch and
you know, if Cortland Sutton doesn't drop this pass, and
so we could do the back and forth ifs you
pointed out the reasons why they won a couple of
games because those ifs, and certainly I think that is
true on the other side of saying, well, if these
(31:54):
other things that were bad didn't happen, they would have
won those games instead. So the thing happen really for
every team every single season except for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
The Chiefs always find a way to kind of minimize
those ifs.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
They find a way to maximize them almost every single time,
and which is why we tend to say the Chiefs
are kind.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Of in everybody's head, right.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Plus you get all the calls from Lebron mahomes flopping there.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It does help.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah, somebody asked, how do we feel about the red
Zone news. Actually we have some updated on that.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, the NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
By the way, the NFL controls commercials there, not ESPN.
ESPN doesn't have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But it's natural I think for a lot of fans
when when they're at ESPN buying it, they assume that
ESPN was putting.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
The commercials on the Red Zone channel. The NFL has
since kind of dialed that back. They've come out and
dialed that back.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
So what they're gonna do is they're gonna do side
by side boxes for these commercials. Where they'll still leave
the red zone channel up and on your screen, but
the audio will flip over to the commercial or the
commercials for a.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Few minutes, and then they'll and then they'll go back.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And I get that from a Scott's got a rested
his voice at some point, you know, perspective. I don't
like he is paying a subscription for something. And then also,
you know, I don't do getting double taxed. I just don't.
So you know that's that's you know, we don't want
get in a political thing, but you know that's there's
these tariffs are crap, but.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I don't I don't do getting double taxed over here
political however, allow me to go political versus Ah. You know,
I'm just saying, if you support if, if you're a
if you're a big proponent of getting taxed more, you
support tariffs, good for you anyways. But yes, that that
is a walk back, because earlier today when Scott was
on the Pat McAfee show and they announced that there
will be commercial breaks, people.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Lost their minds.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And to your point, justifiably, if you're already paying the
premium to have red zone and then all of a
sudden to find out today that it was going to
have commercials in it. Yeah, that was that was pretty
disappointing news. But to hear they walked it back and
that that seems like a nice compromise. Like in the end,
you know, Pat was getting crushed because he said people
aren't aren't gonna be bothered by it. It's like people
(33:56):
are very bothered by a path. They're very bothered by
the red zone and be in sudden one of the
last benchmarks of our society where you just knew you
could set your watch to the fact you watch seven
uninterrupted hours of football, and now that's gone. But then
to walk it back, which the thing is, the NFL
does this right. They react to everything, but they float
(34:16):
these things out there and they're like, oh boy, that
didn't go the way we thought of it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
We pull it back a little. You already got your
anger out. We reached a compromise. Even though there was
no compromise, they still get exactly what they wanted, didn'
the commercials in there in additional revenue stream.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, but at least you leave it up on the
screen marketing one on one. You can at least see
the play as.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
It's kind of bouncing around. So yeah, so they're gonna
split screen that. So there's people in the text slide
that are calling me nick Wright.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That get out of here, hey man, all the clown
takes to have I mean, you're just still they can
disagree with you without being dumb like well, it goes
back to and it's it's kind of on brand for you,
and you know, I love you, but it's on brand
for you because you're pointing out all the ways in
which the season could have gone last year. Instead, I'm
(35:01):
just saying instead of the other side of it, when
you could have led with hey, and if this play
didn't happen, they actually probably would have won this game.
If this play didn't happen, they they had a chance
to win this game. Like your ifs started with the
ways in which the season should have or could have gone.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Much worse, My IFFs are on process. A lot of
these people are basing on results, and that's and that's
I think the difference is I'm looking at the process,
which which what leads to consistent result one way or
the other, or leads to outliers. And so if you
have things like a player dropping a ball before that
never happens, come on. You know, if you have things
(35:35):
like that that change things on a dime, those things
just don't happen. Wide receiver drops, yeah, those happen.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Still relatively early in the game though.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
By the way, the Jonathan Taylor fumble, Yeah, but they
were about to go yeah, no, it would have been big.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Listen, this is a big play. I'm not I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
I just built off that momentum, momentum Like you were
in the stadium, you I was there, and I can
tell you like the momentum the error in the stadium
changed in that moment.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It went from to all we got this. It's undeniable.
I mean the Raiders game with the pick six from
Patzer ten.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
It was an we got this.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, but that's momentum, and it does happen. All Right,
we come back.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Rick Lewis is going to join us get his thoughts
on the season, starting the Sunday
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