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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six o'clock, we hand things off to the Rockies, who
are unfortunately at They were one hundredth loss last night,
but hopefully they can bounce back.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Tonight's against the Giants.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's a Robber Ray versus Herman Marquez, first pitch of
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the show. Good stuff. It is good stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
A couple of questions coming on the text line.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're gonna get to Ben season preview because he went
and did that out there on do that every year Twitter, yep,
and we'll tell you where the Broncos fell in that.
But first this what did you guys think of Steven
Ruiz ranking Herbert fourth, Borough fifth, Geno ninth, and bo.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Nix twenty second.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Stephen Ruis is a nobody who doesn't know anything he's
a rage baiting weirdo who's been I remember when he
first got on Twitter, had like five hundred followers. All
that do does is just say weird, awful wall stuff,
and for whatever reason generates an audience, they'll hold back
on our account. I'm just saying, like he's like he
does know, there's no he blows my like, well, he
works with the Ringers, so he does. Now, he didn't
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work for anybody forever. They just picked him up for
his audience, kind of the way Ka Waite did. Hear
like he didn't work for anybody, and then you know,
he had a huge social media follow so they picked
this guy up. Yeah sounds familiar. Yeah, I mean, I
don't care what Steven Ruiz thinks. He like, I've never
cared what he thought. I still don't care what he think.
He's a rage bating weirdo and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Didn't you Where're you gonna have him on BCT? At
one point challenge had become on. He ducked me.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
There you go, that challenge had come on and back
up his you know, his saying of whatever it was,
and he just ducked me.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, because like all year last year, and I think
to the question all your last year, Steven Ruiz had
Bonux in like the thirties.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, and I was like your thing, and he just
would not do it. He was he's too afraid of
being put held up to scrutiny. And whatever you think
about me, you'll never find me in that camp.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Question, Ben, do you think green Law plays on Sunday?
I know they plan on a pitch count. Wonder if
that's why he didn't practice today. I think they're just
being cautious right now. The plan is for him to play.
If he's able to go, uh, he will play, and
it will be a pitch count. If he's not able
to go, then he won't. But right now I think
the there is.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I hesitate to even say cautious optimism, just optimism that
he'll be good to go.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, And that's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
On a Wednesday practice, I don't read too much into it.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Just Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
If it's better than limited or whatever, then he'll you know,
then he'll be a go.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, well we'll only get limited and then questionable the
probable versus you know. Yeah, well they aren't even yeah
they do that half the Yeah, yeah, they just do
limited a question, they just are questionable or so if
he gets in a limited practice tomorrow, yes, and then
maybe another limited practice on Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And feel pretty good about it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
If if he ever gets to the doubtful or the
did not you know, d MP on all three days,
then he won't.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Glad BOE's internal clock is faster than Russ's. Russ would
take the sack or fumble.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well sort of, I mean, yes, internal clock is faster Russ,
I mean. And and he got away with it when
he was early in his career because he was still
athletic enough to do it. Russ was hanging in there
to try to make the big play. If the early
stuff wasn't there, then what he instructed his receivers to
do was get north and I'll find you right And
then we all saw how Russ would escape out the
back door and.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Then you know, try to run. And he used to
have the problemse is.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
He'd get older, the athleticism starts to fall off, and
you just can't do some of the same things he
used to do.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Russ can still do it sometimes, but he's just not
able to do things at the same level he used
to do.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Them, then you demand I love your ability with English, Ryan,
your English is good too, certainly not English, and to
Benjamin's standards.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I don't understand that. I think he means vocabulary. I
guess I have a I do, I do. I guess
know a lot of weird words. Cool beefy.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You just you just had that on standby Well does
he used it twice earlier with the yeah and one question?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You said beefe twice?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean it though, like they might have the heaviest
defensive line three man front in football.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Coming up after the show, some kind of endorsement with
beef or something like.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
That, brought to you by jacklines beef Jerky's boofy.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Work it into the show somehow, we can that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Your suspicious mind, who wants to let people circumvent the
cap is.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Like, fine with that.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
But when I tried to subversively work endorsement deals into
the conversation on it, that's a bit too.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's a bridge too far. My Shenanigans are cheeky and funny.
Yours are just pathetic and weird.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What's that? What's that Irish restaurant? Thats?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh, oh my god, there'll be a third super Trooper.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I never saw the second one. Oh really is beer Fest?
You know that? That was that whole idea was born.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They took a trip down to Australia to promote super Troopers,
and that whole idea was born on a raucous night
of drinking they had with some assies down there.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I did know that, because you've told me the story
about Florida. I can never remember.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You know Toto Toto, by the way, in case you
didn't know Top Gun the original sound soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, well don't even supposed to be. Kenny Lugus.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Efforting is not a word. Well, we use it often.
Efforting is a word that's used often. Anyways, you put
out your season preview earlier today at Albright NFL, people
want to go rip it apart. Actually feel like most
people kind up in line with your thinking on through
most of this. Now, I'll skip to the part that
Broncos fans really care about it, and then we'll kind
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of go back through it. Yes, you have the Broncos
making the playoffs. You have them as the sixth seed
in the AFC, second in the AFC West behind the Chiefs.
It's been a fun thing over the last few days
as everybody's put out their expectations, their projections for the
season and the postseason and who's going to win the
Super Bowl, and those will continue even into tomorrow as
we open.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
The season tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But there's this war, this internal war of I can't
quit the Chiefs just yet for the AFC. Like there
was some I wondered because you had, you know, Crichris Sims.
I think yesterday coming out on the k Adams Show,
you've had a few people out there saying, I think
this is the year that the Broncos unseat the Chiefs,
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that the Chiefs don't win the division. But then today
I was listening to some national podcasts and read some
national articles and it swung back the entire other way.
I'm sorry, I just can't quite take the Chiefs out
of the driver's seat of the AFC West just yet.
And of course you didn't either, And honestly, I was
on with Dick yesterday. I don't know if I could
do that yet either. I do think that the Broncos
are positioned well, but it's like until you see it,
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you sort of have you have to see it. This
is one of those things you have to believe to see.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I think Kansas City is going to be a better
football team than they were last year, and that may
not be reflected in their record or how far they
get in the playoffs. If we're being honest, Kansas City
last year was probably the most beatable Kansas City has
been in the Patrick Mahomes era, and they still went
fifteen to two, and they still went to the Super
Bowl and went fifteen to two. I think that they're
going to be a better football team this year, specifically
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on offense, and so even.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Without Racy Rice for the Furlix games.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Even without him early, I still I think they're going
to be a better team on offense. It doesn't mean
Broncos can't catch him, because I think the Broncos are
going to be a little bit better teaman they were
last year. I think that it's possible that every team
in the AFC West could be better than they were
last year and still have, you know, almost worse records
across the board.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Actually we're in lockstep, and I think that's that's sort
of an interesting dynamic here at play. We see that
for years with the AFC North, where they cannibalize each
other and everybody splits their home at home.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Which I think the NFC North is going to experience
this year. You got you got teams that are going
to cannibalize themselves this year.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, which is weird because last year he had two
massive win teams out of the NFC North and you
had three actually three include Green Bay and they all
went to the postseason and of course they which.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
We saw them West year. We have Chargers and Broncos
and Chips obviously, so but.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Anyways, I found this fasterest. So the Chiefs winning the
AFC West is not really I think surprising to anybody.
I think that there's some Broncos hope out there that
more people will say that they feel like the Broncos
can win the division. This is where we get a chance,
as Broncos fans to sort of enjoy still being under
the radar. Like I talked about the optimism and the
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opening segment right talked about the beliefs that the Broncos
could build on last year and maybe not only getting
the playoffs. May win a game, that's the hope, right,
But I think it's still good to live under the
radar or the division and still be looking up at
the Chiefs because you still got to you gotta get there,
you gotta you get to find a way to get there.
So it's okay for all the there's twitch spotlight on
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my team. You're still not there yet. You're still not
a prohibitive favorite to win the division. And that's probably
a good thing because he keeps you hungry.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah, you had to go out and beat the you know,
you had to go out and knock the Bulls out
before before they you know, otherwise the Bulls were the
teamy putting with Jordan and Pivotol. It's the same thing
with the Chiefs. I mean, whatever you want to say
about it. And I lived in Kansas City when the
shoe was on the other foot. I lived in Kansas
City when you had that unbeatable quarterback and great defense
across the division and John Elway in the Denver Broncos,
and they just what do.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
We gotta do? What do we got to do? In
the Kansas City had good football.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Teams that they were putting out there at that point
in time, but they could not get over the hump there.
And so you know, I've seen it before with the
shoe on the other foot and I'd say, you got
to beat them to beat them, you gotta beat them
before people will put you in that slot.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
There are still some people that are doubting. I was
listened again to a couple of national podcasts today do
in their season predictions, and some of them don't have
the Broncos making the postseason. Some of them have been
as high as the fifth seed, right because nobody's putting
winning the division just yet. So we have, just like
last year, a split still what people believe is real
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about the Broncos and what's not.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
All things being equal, if the Broncos are healthy and all.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That kind of stuff, I mean, I could see anywhere
from from eight to fourteen wins. Like it's kind of
wide open there. Like I would be shocked if they
if they only won seven games with a healthy team
this year, I'd be stunned.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I would be personally stunned.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
But you know, they could go anywhere from win the
division to you know, to win eight nine games, Like
look at this. It just depends on the maturation of
bow and how the league catches up to them.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Alright, So for your AFC predictions, I'll just be very
quick here that you have Bills, Ravens, Chiefs, Texans, surprises
a lot of people. And then for your wild cards
you have the Steelers, no Bengals, sorry Grant, Broncos, and Dolphins.
They got the Dolphins getting in. Why did you Why
do you like the Dolphins this year?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I got a fire under him this year, and I
think if they can stay, if they if they can
stay healthy, you know that division, they're gonna get two
freebies off the Jets. You've got a Patriots team that
I don't think is quite as good as everybody thinks.
The defense is there, I just don't think they're quite
there yet. So I think you've probably got three freebies
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in that division.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And then you know, you build of from there.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You look at their schedule, The schedule feels like it's
it's winnable, So I put the Dolphins in there. I
wrestled around with that one a little bit. The Chargers,
the Bengals, you know, and the Dolphins were really the
three teams I wrestled with for the last spot.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's a tough exercise because we know there's turnover, like
it's never chalk right, it's never the same teams that
we did have similar winners.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Of division last year.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But it's you know, it's never the same teams as
we always expect it to be. And that's where I
think that the process of this, And I'm sure you
did the same thing. You're like, well, I got to
be creative at least one or two of these spots.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, I just went I went with fun, and I
didn't try to get creative with it at all.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I just did what I did.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, a lot of people do, They try to a
lot of throw something in there to make it stand
out or I didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I think there are people that will say that with
the NFC West pick, but no, I just went with
I went with the way that I predict these things
every year, and if I get a division winner or
a playoff team wrong, I dontate one hundred dollars to.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Charity every year. So yeah, you do. I'm well aware
of that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So yes, let's go over to the NFC side for
a moment before we come back to the bron because
we'll hear from Sean Payton in a second. So NFC side,
you went Packers, which a lot of people are very
high on the Packers now, especially.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
With that Parsons, I think did it for me.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
There A lot of people were pretty high on the
package before, like thinking that this team looks relatively complete,
but adding that kind of talent to the defense makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
And honestly, the NFC North could finish in any order.
It would not surprise me.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You're right, because you have the Eagles third in the conference.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So yeah, that's tougher schedule, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And so that's one of those things where I think
they could take a little bit of a step back
this year, still win their division, but take a little
step back overall.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So Packers, Bucks, Eagles, Cardinals winning the NFC West, and
then you got Commanders, Rams and Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, this is really wide open because.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You think about the You have the Lines and Vikings
both missing the postseason, which would be remarkable considering how
both of those teams finished last year. We're talking about
the number one seed and the Vikings were playing for
the number one seed in the final week of the season.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You have both those teams missing.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
The Rams actually, I do think that they're being slept
on a little bit because of Matthew Stafford injury stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Looks like he's gonna be playing week one. They have upgraded.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
They are a good they are a well coached, solid,
rock solid team, And if Matthew Stafford is upright, I
actually like the Rams quite a bit this year. I'm
not as high on the Seahawks as you are, but
I do think they're really well coached.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
First of all, the Rams have a very young defense
that's growing up another year in that system.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
The Seahawks have a great defense as well.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Mike McDonald uh isn't just a great background vocalist, he's
also a great defensive coach. And so you're you're going
to see, Uh, You're got to see a great defense
of the offense. That's the question with Ki Kubiak running
it and Sam Darnold back there, that's the question mark.
But I think that they've got enough pieces to make
some noise. We'll see how that goes. I think the
just the other part of this is, you know the Lions,
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you you're you're lacking continuity. You lost both your coordinator.
That's huge, that really is huge. We'll see how they're
able to bounce back from that. And the vikings breaking
in JJ McCarthy, he's he always had a longer ramp
up than Bo Nicks was going to have. It was
always going to be that they've got a great defense.
But it really is how fast he comes into his
own and I don't think it's necessarily gonna be as
quick as Bo did.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
By the way, a little snark on your NFC South picks, Bucks, Falcons,
Panthers the bye week at the number five Saints.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I squeeze that in every year. I do the bye
week thing. Every year.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I squeeze that in on you know about whatever team
I think is going to be the worst team in
the league that year, And so last year that was,
you know, we hit.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
On that one last year. This year, of course we
got the Saints, is the worst team in the league.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So yeah, it was with the Titans probably, Yeah, yours team.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, we had the Titans as the and then the
bye weekend, then the Titans.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So of course you're given the love to the Cardinals
as well. Jonathan Gannon's agents. It's not I mean I
know that people, I mean you do it yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Well, I get that, but this is not like I
don't put personal relationships in this at all. Like you
could see very clearly that I have the Colts a
lot lower than you do. And I have a relationship
with that head coach, so like it's not that it's
go look at what the Cardinals did on loading up
on defense, Like I don't think people realize how strong
that defense is and how lights out they played when
they did have this kind of talent. So I think
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the thing is they've they've got a slightly above average offense,
but they have a potential to have a top ten
defense this year and I believe in it.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And I also think that division is going to cannibalize
itself a little bit.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, I do like where you put your money where
their mouth is, So in that respect, you're not only
Jonathan Gannon's agent, but you're gonna turn around and put
that money towards charity if you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, every time any any division winners or any any
playoff teams I miss on than I don't know a hundred
bucks charity for.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You, So it's worth I actually give with you. In
the NFC West is kind of wide open like that.
That is one of the more exciting divisions to watch
because here you have you have the Niners fourth, right,
you have three teams making that out of the n
FFC Wes. You have the Niners fourth where there's a
lot of people out there that think the Niners are
gonna bounce back almost immediately, like there's and listen your
your logics. I saw on some of your commentary on
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it it sound that they they are. They have the
finished margins as polarizing of a team that I can remember,
because I can easily see it looking just as bad
as it did last year because Brock Perdy played a
whole year. Yeah, like that's what they finished with six
wins and he played all year. I could easily see
that being the case or the other side of it,
because we've seen how dominant they can be and how
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welcome coached, and how deep they can be when.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It all clicks. Your switching schemes on defense. So back
to solad, which I love as a coach. Yeah, absolutely,
But you've got you're counting on rookies and injured guys
to stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know, you got Michael Williams and Upon Stout.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You're counting on both those guys and Alfred Collins, the
CG A West Big. You know you're counting on a
lot of these rookies and guys that have injured histories.
And then on the offensive side, I mean that offense
has gotten old, if we're being honest here, I mean
Rock Perty's there, but Christian McCaffrey's starting to creep up
there a little bit, and he's been injured before. Brian Robinson.
You added him by a trade that that'll help. Kyle
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Yustchet's been around the while, George Kittle's been around the wild.
Trent Williams is what thirty seven years old At this point,
you're receiving Corse mostly injured. I mean you've only got
what four guys rostered right now between sky Moore, Juwan Jennings,
Ricky Piersoll and Marcus Veldez Scandling. I mean two of
those guys who weren't even there a month ago.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We listen.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I actually agree with you that team. I have no
idea where they could make me.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Look like an idiot win the division.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
They could absolutely finish in the cellar where I put them.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And either one. Like I said, it's pretty wide open. Anyways,
it's a really fun division to watch. I do appreciate
you put this out here every single year, because again
you're at inviting scrutiny, which sometimes especially in social media
can be less than fun. Let's hear a little bit
from Sean Payton before we hit the bottom of the
hour again. Five six six, ninez or if you want
to react to any of that, here's a I liked this.
(17:26):
So Sean was asked about his optimism for the team
and and just how I was vocal. He's been with
everybody talking about it. Here's what he said, Yeah, my
chest has.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Been puffed out. I just think this team is further
along than when it was two years ago. And two
years ago, you know, quite honestly, you know, we weren't
we weren't near.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Where we are now.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And so this game, in the very beginning, I said, look,
you know, our goals obviously start with winning the division,
best seat possible play for a super Bowl, and I
think those are those are that's that's where your mind's
got to be. If you plan on winning one of those.
(18:10):
You don't just arrive week eight and say, man, we're
on a roll. We might win this thing.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You've been into a lemon there.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But you like that answer, I mean it's you know,
he used a tutology first of all, you know, and
then he's talking about two years ago. Yeah, I mean
it's two years ago, read a book that's you know, okay, cool, Yeah,
we get it.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You hate Russell Wilson. Cool. So so does you know
three other fan bases at this.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Point, you know he is puffing his chest out. Uh,
he has been doing that this whole offseason. He never
he has not met the national media person. He hasn't
run to to declare that they're a super Bowl caliber
football team.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So I just you know, own your comments. Man got
speaking into existence though, and standard, Yeah, I'm fine with that.
I'm just like, don't back off your comments now though. Well,
che I'm just saying we're better than we were.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Two years ago. That could mean anything.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Here's foot Sean said in response to how he thinks
the players have responded with his very vocal optimism.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I think it's their expectations as well, the expectations to compete. Obviously,
Kansas City is the you know, the team that sat
on top of this division and they're they're awfully good
and they've been very consistent.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Tautology, the tautology, no, no, you you do English good fine.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Beef never ever could live that one down. Ever, it
was so emphatic, too beefy beefy. Oh always even like
a read or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
What funny is like I didn't even realize that I
was like hammering that one home when I was asking
Rick that question.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Like I did not realize I was even doing that beefy.
It's an ad for beef reno. So yeah, that's what
I'm saying, Like chili is the best. I bet you
can put a whole ad together for chug water chili.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
At this point, I would say it's ai or editing,
but go away spice of Western life.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I just I mean, you were puffing your chest out.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
This whole offseason.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You did everything you could to every media outlet that
you could to get yourself some run and and and
talk about how this is a super Bowl caliber team
and it's one of the three best teams you've ever coached,
and and all this kind of stuff, and then somebody
pots you up for a you know, lobs up a
gimme dunk here and Ali oop and You're like, you
know what, I'm gonna come down with the rebound here
and then put it back up off the glass.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Still causes two points? Does it?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Though? Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
It does? Thanks closed. What's alfter hours. Yeah, it's fair.
MVK did fantasy draft with all of us and then
went to the concert raft. Well there you go, nice
d N A plus and the draft. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
All I know is I got to kiss the death.
So yeah, you guys, who was that grade came in
from Yahoo? Maybe you were the best draft you got
the a plub Oh I lost this league.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
He was strutting around like a peacock. I did do that.
So they Yahoo finally got something right. We got Rockies
baseball coat up at the top of the hour. Hopefully
we have less ejections. It's nice.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's kind of a tough and tough moment there. Oh,
that was an extremely bad look for the Rockies. Yeah,
there was no part of that that was a good
look for the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
No, not really. I mean, Raphie Devers is.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You're you're having in the midst of a bad season, right,
Let that get Do you like that?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I mean you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Can't, but it's a bad season and everything just kind
of sucks and whatever. Kyle Freeland didn't like the way
that Devers enjoyed that home run, the too run homer
he hit and and then yeah he got bounced I mean,
that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You don't like guys celebrating the ends on the Lemps
score touchdow, you don't. You don't like I celebrate a
home run though, won't serve it up.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That it was. John Payton on bo Nicks's growth in season.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Two, there's a natural growth relative to especially the language,
you know, because when you when you do come from
college to any any team in the NFL, you change
languages and that takes a while.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That part of.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
It naturally happens, and then you know, he's kind of
had those leadership abilities probably for most of his football career.
He trains hard, his expectations of himself are higher than
any others, and that's a good thing. So yeah, all
(22:48):
of that, you know, relative to you know, going into
the second season, I.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Do think it's tough at some level because John Payton
has asked about that a lot, like he's asked about Bonnicks.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He's asked about bone growing growing.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Up from year one to year two and what that
looks like and how does he feel about it. I Mean,
we're playing some sound from Drew Brees yesterday where he's
talking about that. The more he can add to his plate,
and Sean had to answer that question on Monday when
he was doing his Zoom press conference, and it's you
find creative ways to answer the same thing, and in
the end, it's just gonna have to be seen on
(23:23):
the field. I think we all have sort of expectations
about it. We took away from the preseason games. But
even then there's a flawed concept there of tying any
kind of expectation or belief out of a preseason exhibition game. Right, Yeah,
I know you shouldn't do that. Now you get a
(23:43):
conclusion from that, right.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think the questions that are asked to Sean is
because he's seeing this more than we are. We get
the limited viewing periods and all that kind of stuff,
that he's seeing everything and he should be able to
articulate how far Bow has moved forward. And there's I
think some fans then concerned that he really hasn't said
anything as.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Far as that goes.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
He's talked about this team being a Super Bowl contender,
he's talked about the you know, it's smoother in year
two as you've gotten the verbiage down, that kind of stuff,
but that he really hasn't commented on that, and I
think what we saw out of the preseason maybe led
a few people to say, maybe this thing.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Isn't as far forward as we'd like it to be
at this juncture.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But you were pointing out last year, I mean, in
fairness to the process, you were pointing out last year
that what we were assigning as a conclusion out of
the preseason on Bonux's performance was also flawed.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And that's what I've tried to say this year too.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Like last year, I was telling you know, tamp down
expectations a little bit. This year, I'm telling you don't
let that, don't let that depress you, because again, last
season you had got we were game planning games against
defensive weren't game plan and dialing up all this stuff.
And then we saw in the first four weeks of
the season, Yeah, Bo's got a.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Little learning curve here. It's going to take him a
few minutes.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Here we are in year two and we're sort of
keeping the offense a little bit more vanilla this year.
We certainly didn't see the other day they really dialed
it up was when Dave was Webb was kind of
dialing it up there a little bit. Now, Sean definitely
wanted that offense to get me in the end zone
there and that third game against the Saints, but they weren't.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Really dialing it up, you know what I mean, Like it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It was mostly Staples. It was mostly generic staples, you
know that kind of stuff. Don't let the preseason lack
of offensive production out of the first team downplay your
expectation in the same way that don't let the first
team tear it it up against the Colts with no
game plan, make you think this offense was going to
put forty a game out there.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And it always such a difficult thing because you want
because we've seen examples of teams that do play their starters,
like the Bengals for example, Oo dang.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Seeing the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
When they had Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase starting the
first preseason game go out there, immediately score a touchdown
and just mow down the opponent.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
It's like, well, that's what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And so then you think, okay, well they're already ready
to go for the season. And then the Broncos really
they scored that touchdown in the third attempt against the
Saints and it took three attempts. After you said it
was only going to be eight to ten plays, you
said you had to send him out there for one
more because you wanted to see it all kind of
work together.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Well, you couldn't go into the You couldn't have this
two week period where you you know, two and a
half week period where you didn't score a touchdown with
your first team offense.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You you couldn't do that. You could not take those
champaign wouldn't doing that. He's the egos too, bit he's
not He's not doing that and not taking those questions
for two weeks. Is it completely I mean, you're not
completely wrong? Is it so much?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Sean Payton's both ego and also the offense needing the
confidence to say, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
What it looks like. It's both you punch it in,
you break that, you break the ice on that you're
and you're good. But it's both. I think we know that.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I mean, Sean Paige is absolutely not letting the focus
beak and this offense keep up. After he was standing there,
full chest puffed out, talking about a super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
You know, over the past four weeks, the.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Run game is going to be a thing that everybody's
gonna be looking that hyper focused on Let it play
out too.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's not just a one game thing. Let it be
a couple of Again, I've.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Already described this this tennis Sea Heitan's defensive line here.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
No, okay, we didn't have We've got a whole on
beefy there it is.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know, I've already discribed they're gonna their game plan.
It appears based on the way that Justin or Justin
Jeffers Simmons was talking, you know, it appears that they're
gonna shut down the run and dare the Broncos to
beat them through the air.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, and I'm not too worried about that, except for
the fact that you really have intentionally talked up the
run game all off season and you've invested obviously in
that as well. There's gonna be games, I mean, you
certainly want to be multi faceted and multidimensional. There's gonna
be games where teams are gonna take away something. They're
gonna they're gonna at least effort to take away something.
(27:46):
You're not one of the elite teams like say the
Buffalo Bills, the Baltimore Ravens where you could just beat
you beat everybody in a.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Multitude of ways.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Right now, you have Bonix's improvisational ability mixed with some
talented receiver that maybe people aren't quite viewing his household names,
and then you're hoping the throwing game is gonna be
a little better.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
But if you're a team like the Tennessee Titans, yeah,
you get to take away something. You know, we'll take
away the run game and see Bonux conpet us.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
With his arm.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
We have our doubts they and they have a decent
secondary I mean they do, so I think that's where
they're at with that is all right, Well, we're gonna
make you do it.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
We'll be back tomorrow three o'clock. Dave will be back
with us.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Benjamin aal Bright will also be with us, and we'll
hear from the coordinators as we continue to march towards
the first game of the season for the Broncos as
they host Tennessee Titans. Or cover starts at eight am
on Sunday with Broncos warm up Benjamin Albright. We'll take
you up to nine o'clock. We have the Bet three
six five opening line.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
We got our fantasy show, and we'll continue on until
we walk up to kickoff.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Shortly after two o'clock. The NFL season man twenty four
hours away, So twenty four hours away and change from
the Eagles and Cows, and that might not even be
that a good of a game.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
We talked about polarizing teams of the forty nine ers earlier.
If you're a Cowboys fan, I mean, what are you
even thinking about your team right now?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's the question.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Because I had high hopes for Dallas prior to trading department.
The Dallas was one of the best EPA defensive EPA
players with him on the field, and the worst with
him off it, And so that's that's tough. I had
high hopes for Dallas with him there. It's part of
the reason that I'm so high on the Packers now.
I mean, aside from great coaching, even if they do
have a quarterback, it's a little less than advertised. You know,
that defense, especially that front seven, looks lethal.