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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, I'm Dave Logan, Dave Logan, and good afternoon everybody.
My name is Rick Lewis my radio voice. I think
we you know, welcome to the show. Sometimes that's that
is so hokey. Sometimes you just have to You've got
to introduce yourself, right.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Sometimes you got to just tell people to do who
they're listening to. Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah. Well, ros Kominski still do the morning show.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
He does.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
And Mandy I know because I saw her in the hall.
She still does towld the three twelve to three. All right,
Rick just played her of the day. Yeah you do.
I wasn't humiliated. I got one, right, I lost two
to one. How is that not humiliating to you? Normally?
I don't get any what what's the topic? It's she
does this Jeopardy game. I know that I know the game.
(00:47):
What was the I forget? Hey, Rod, what was the
topic today? You just forgot it here six minutes ago?
I think it was Rhyme's he didn't even remember. It
wasn't ones ago.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It was.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, it was stupid and silly, and that's how I
felt afterwards.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
All right, Yes, well, before we get too far into
this tip of the caps to the outfit you're wearing today.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh you consider this flannel? That that is absolutely flantel?
All right, thank you god, Well, seriously, Dave, do you
consider this flannel? Yes, there's a word that I thought. No,
there's a word that I absolutely cannot say in the air.
Otherwise I would, I would. You'd be looking at another
partner come Sunday or Monday. You know what's weird. I
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was just about to compliment you. I'm just warning an
under armour. You're dressed ready to go to go to practic.
You rarely dress all in black, and I was going
to say, you look really like really slim, and well,
thank you, thank you, very appreciate that very much, very
young and oh gosh, compliment you look good in black?
(01:55):
Thanks you to wear black more, thank you, thank you
very much. What you have? What color would you swell?
I'm thinking I didn't mean give me a minute to
work through it. What color shirt? Would you say? That is?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Mob?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't know what color is this? This is like
a it's a plaid like a pattern of like powder
blue and pink cream and salmon.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Pink, salmon, salmon and salmon. We'll give you salmon, salmon
or pink or pink. Yeah, yeah, you've got to be
confident in your own sexuality.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Wow, you know what? Real men can wear pink? That's
what I mean. I mean, you're I'm proud of you.
You're a very macho I like pink. I have I
have some pink stuff. Real men can wear pink. Yeah,
can you wear pink? Rhyme?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
If I have something pink that I would wear it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Do you have a pink flannel at home?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I did have a pink flannel, but my wife and
daughters bought me. I am Kanough. You remember the Barbie
shirt Barbie shirt of course me. Yeah, that's right, of course,
So I am kanough t shirt that has it's like
it's blue light blue and then pink letter.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And yeah, yeah, I wore that one day.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Tomorrow. Please you know what for you? I'm actually I
won't be here. Oh I won't be here tomorrow. How
are you going to know them? Where? You know? I'll
come in on Friday? Okay, we're Friday. We're Friday. Okay,
we play tomorrow, So on a football Friday, I'll show
up at that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I am enough.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, sure, be proud about it I'll do that. Can
I wear flannel on top of it? You can do
whatever you want to. I think we've already established that
in our time together in the afternoons.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So before we get into a couple of things with
the Broncos, and I got to get to this Tom
Brady thing. He sent out a newsletter today kind of
ripping people that question his integrity, integrity and ethics.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes, that's exactly right. So I would ask you guys
about that in a second. But you said you.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Have an interesting story about Susie Wargen on the road
running a proposal.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh you wanted to share with that class. We always
have a lot of laughs on the road on these
road trips. This was at dinner in Marina del Rey,
right on the water. We had a in the in
the hotel. At the hotel, that's right, we had a
very flamboy waiter, you kind of your typical la waiter.
What is that like? He was very what does that mean? Flamboyant?
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He was how do you how would you describe describing
to you are? He was very enthusiastic about everything. Okay,
all right, which was great. We loved him. In fact,
Dave gave him a name Larry. Oh okay, it wasn't
even his name, but Dave was calling him Larry. And
so we're sitting there and right on the marina, and
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somebody slid open like this big slider that was sitting
next to the slider, right next to the window across
from us, and it got really cold in there. It
was overcast day, a little windy, rainy, and it got
real cold in the restaurant, and we all looked at
each other and went, man, it's what happened, you guys
called Yeah, I'm freezing. And so Dave offered a j
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twenty bucks to go over to the guy's table and
close the screen.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Wait, look, you're just like, hey, Ja, I'll pay you
to walk over to that table right there and then
and ask to please not just do it, no, no,
not to not just do it, just to ask if
we can close the sliding glass door.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And and Susie jumped on it. Twenty bucks, Yeah, I'll
go do it. So she walked over there and the guy,
it turns out he was waiting to film his buddy
proposing to his future wife. Oh that's why he had
the big slider open here. He was he wasn't even eating,
and he's like trying to tell her one a minute,
one minute, And as he's saying that this guy's down
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on one knee, yeah, proposing. Hey, we were applauding like
it was a cool moment. It was a good Susie
kind of like an ass after this is she.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
In the middle of the video, like they watch it back.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Maybe maybe the guy was waving his phone up, you know, yeah,
and she walked right in front of him. Can I
can I clumbs this slide, Susie. Susie's not shy, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So it's somewhere on social media with somebody's announcing hey,
she said, yes, there's Susie.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wargen b to shut the way Curly had brought into
the video.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Part of the.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's amazing. But she said yes and everything was fine.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yes, she did say yes, okay, we all clapped, we did.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But you were describing it off air, I thought for
some reason. So she interrupted it to the point of
it just didn't happen, and I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
We should have led.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The timing was thrown off a little a little bit, okay,
because the guy was waiting for quite a while. He
had to wait a bit, yes he did, for Susie
to back out of the camera.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Lent. We talked about this in life as well as
on the football field. Sometimes a blitzer comes out of nowhere.
You could have to adjust right everything, everything, and you
gotta you know, delay a little bit and then find
the open receiver.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
All right, So a couple of things I want to
get you first.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Like I said, the Tom Brady thing yesterday or today,
he sent out a bit of a new newsletter taking
a shot at the people that are questioning his ethics,
his motivation here, and he says, and with all the
excess football has given me, I feel I have a
moral and ethical duty to the sports, which is why
the point where my roles in intersect and not actually
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a point of conflict, despite what the paranoid and distrustful
might believe. Rather, it's the place from which my ethical
duty emerges to grow, evolve and improve the game that
has given me everything. We have an a chance to
really talk a ton about this, Dave, because there's been
so much in the news, especially around the NFL. But
a couple weeks ago, Tom Brady up there in the
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coaches booth with the headphones on. We obviously know he
has a prominent role with Fox. I mean, how is
this sitting with you? It's been pretty mixed back with
most fans out there leaning negative, not big fans overall
of the optics of it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
What do you think, Well, I mean, I understand, Listen,
Tom Brady won a lot in the NFL, and I
think there if you aren't or weren't a New England
Patriot fan, then you probably got very tired of Tom
Brady and Bill Belichick and the Patriots in general. I
get that they just won a bunch, and so I
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do think that people sort of are looking for anything
that they could sort of tilt their head back and say,
wait a minute, you so, is this giving you an
advantage in some regard. I also think the flight gate
will always be in the back of a lot of
fans' minds whether it was, you know, really gave them
an advantage or didn't given an advantage. But on face value,
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I don't think. I don't think it's given the Raiders
an advantage. I really don't. I mean there are teams
that I mean, he's not even allowed in the facility
he's got he's got to do his his meeting and
and normally when network TV people come in they come
in town on Friday, they are granted access frankly that
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very few members of the media are granted. They get
a chance to sit down with the head coach, usually
the quarterback, and then two or three other key people
that they request, and they can ask them questions. And
there are times in those meetings where coaches will divulge
something in a game plan that will help those network
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broadcasters do their jobs on Sunday. But I don't think
with him not in the building, I honestly, I don't
think it's giving the raiders, you know, an advantage the
fact that he's not in the building. I mean, that's
how far the NFL has gone. What I mean, how else?
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I mean, the only thing you could do is say, listen,
you're not going to be involved in the meetings at all,
which would make his job on Sunday a bit tougher.
Think he's going to decide at some point this TV
thing is just not worth it. I'm making whatever, thirty
seven and a half million dollars, but I'm worth four
hundred million dollars and I'm a minority shareholder. With the Raiders,
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and it would not surprise me if relatively soon tom
Brady announces I'm done at Fox.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's I'm with you on all of it, really, because
you think about it in terms of the optics in
the NFL is going to be aware of all of this, right,
I mean they knew once they approved him to be
a minority owner that there was going to be some
optics some people questioning all about that. Yeah, this is
going to come a point where he's going to realize
that I don't even need all of this headache. But
in the endterm, I can understand some fans out there
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having a weird feeling about it, especially because unless you're
a Raiders fan, and that means thirty one other fan
bases are going to look at this and wondering, just
wonder a little bit about it. But I with Dave ultimately,
I think this has probably much to do about nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Rick. Yeah, the optics, I agree, are not good. But
I think Tom Brady, all the hats that he wears,
is a man of integrity. And what could they tell
Tom Brady that Tom Brady already doesn't already know He's
seen more football than anybody that's going to try to
tell him what's going on, and knows more about football
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than anybody, and so I don't think he's getting any
top secret information and going back to the Raiders with it.
The only information that I think you could make that
would make you wonder about is there are times where
coaches will talk about guys they're bringing off the practice
squad and they will talk about, like, listen, this player. Honestly,
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we have been so surprised, so glad that we got him,
and maybe maybe you learn a little bit more about
a player or two that has kind of flown under
the radar. So I don't think it'd be an x's
and o's, you know, gathering event, but I do think
there would be time. So if if you're the head
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coach of whomever, I mean, I guarantee you if Sean
Payton deals with Tom Brady, he's going to be mindful
of the fact that Brady's associated with the Raiders and
anything you say in that meeting, I mean, And Peyton's
real good at this, He'll temper every single thing that
he says. If I'm running Fox, I would think that
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this may ultimately hurt the broadcast because you're going to
get to the point where you're not going to be
able to glean as much information because coaches and guys
are just not going to be willing. They're going to
treat that national broadcasting team the way a lot of
local broadcasters find their jobs during the course of the week,
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and that is we're not really telling you too much,
fellas and ladies. So I mean, I think that's something
for Fox and Tom Brady to think about. Like you, Dave,
I would not be surprised if he doesn't do that
job for long. You'd have to love the job on
the sure if he does or not. I saw about it.
Maybe it was a week ago, thirty seven and a
half million. Yeah, you can have a lot of money
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in the bank, and that's still a lot of money,
it is, and he's got a lot of money in
the bank. But I heard him comment to how he
didn't care for his performance on a game that he
called a week or two ago, and he pointed it
out and said something like, you know, I got to
get better. I need to. It's not an easy job.
No to do that, and even for Tom Brady, and
if he starts getting a little frustrated flustered, I'm sure
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he has a really high bar for himself. Maybe he goes,
you know what, thirty seven million bucks. There's a lot
of travel that goes with it. I've got a lot
of money in the bank. I've got. You think he's
jumping on the back of a Winnebago. I think he
maybe pulls back a little bit and just becomes Tom Brady,
the not the TV guy tom Brady, because he can
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do so many other things, of course, and I feel
like he will pull out of it and step back
as well.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I think the only thing in this last thing for me,
at least, the only thing for me is I don't
know about being defensive, because he had to know this
was going to come up. Like he's a very public
figure and you're gonna notice Tom Brady singing the coaches box,
and he had to know that was gonna come up, right,
the TV cameras gonna put the.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Headphones on exactly, then you know this is gonna come up.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
So him sending out the newsletter, I like to him
pointing out about how much the league has given him,
how much playing the NFL, how much being around the NFL,
and how much he cares about being the public face
of it in so many ways, and the points of
conflict and all those kinds of I think that was
all great. But the defensiveness which got all the headlines,
the paranoid and distrustful stuff, I don't know, man. I
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think you could have taken the high road there. This
is just my opinion. It doesn't have to be everybody's opinion,
but I think you sort of take the high road there,
understand the optics of what it is, why people are
kind of side eyeing this just for a moment, and
then just say, you know what, I'm just gonna tell
you guys, where I'm coming from. Where I'm coming from
on this is I would never ever risk my legacy,
which again you bring up to flake Kate, but we'll.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Table that for a second.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I would never risk my legacy post football and now
with this organization with the Raiders and doing what I
do with Fox to possibly get glean just a little
bit of information that could be viewed by anybody as Blowboard's.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
That's just one way.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I think he did that through almost all of it,
until he got to that one little line when he
started calling people paranoid and distrustful and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I think sometimes, I mean, generally speaking, people's competitive fire, sure,
which they used to their advantage and has been such
a big component of who they are for a long
long time. Every now and then, that competitive fire can
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get you into a lane that you don't want to
be in. So, yeah, what you said, I think probably
has merit. But I think it also indicates that he
knows nothing's going on, and he's righteously indignant. That's like really,
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I mean, you guys are making a big deal and
so it angers him. Yeah, and I understand that, but
I also think that, you know, you've got to choose
the right path in terms of how do I want
to respond to this? And you know what, he was
comfortable being under the microscope as a football player. That's
in his wheelhouse. He's done it his whole life. Sure,
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this is his first attempt at being a broadcaster, and
it's a whole different game. And the criticism is just
as harsh, we know. I mean, you look at our
text lines. Sometime people will come after you, and this
is he's out of his Uh, He's like a duck
out of water right now. He's trying to get his
feet wet here and trying to figure this out and
learn how to get better. And he's probably getting a
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lot of heat from fans number one, because he's Tom
Brady and they don't like him going in number two,
they might not think he's not doing a very good job. Well,
what's the general consensus from And maybe this is too
difficult to answer because maybe there's not really a simple answer,
but sort of the consensus amongst Fox fans who see
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Brady on the number one Fox game every single week.
I mean, because I mean, I guess I have watched
him do it, but I don't sit there and analyze,
you know, the announcers and every single thing they say.
Do you think he's had favorable response from fans? Is
it lukewarm? Is it awful? How do people perceive Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Lukewarm would be one of the best way to describe it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Views I've seen from the critics, and I'm talking media critics. Oh,
media critics, like they're not that impressed. So what do
they What don't they like about him?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean, performance, he's OK, he's he's just he's got
a lot of information. But the one thing that you
can appreciate about Tony Romo just as a side of
a guy that just came off the field and started
doing this. Is he as an affable nature to him,
He's he's kind of funny, right, And I mean, whether
you like everything he does in the booth or not,
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I think paired with with Jim Nantz is phenomenal for
him because Jim is just like the consummate pro right.
But there's just a relatability that Tony Romo has that
that Tom.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Brady he can have.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I think when him and Peyton Manning do things together,
they do skits or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Very relatable, very funny.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
But in this setting he can become across as a
little bit stiff and just a little bit like less approachable.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Which again, it's like not the worst thing, So Luke
Warrem would be the best way to describ It's not the
worst thing.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
In the world. Yeah, I think you know the people
the Fox thirty seven and a half million dollars when
that thing was announced, and it was announced when he
was still playing, right, and I'm thinking, wow, wow, thirty
seven and a half million dollars for an analyst, And
I know Network TV pays a great deal of money
but I think at some point and the people the
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Fox probably have already done that. Do we think that
Tom Brady? Having Tom Brady on the telecast and having
him associated with Fox maybe is even bigger? But is
that drawing people that you normally might not get to
have an interest in that game to watch the game
because Brady is the analyst. Maybe it's the association that
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he has with Fox for the next whatever it is,
four years.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Maybe it doesn't do a lot for me, but I'm
not necessarily representative of the massive fan base. I thought
Greg Olsen was phenomenal. Yeah, I thought Greg was good. Yeah,
for sure. So that was a tough, tough one for me.
All Right, We're off rolling here on a Wednesday, very
excited to be here with you. We'll talk a little
about up with the Broncos coming up next Monday night football
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game against the Cincinnati Bengals. Welcome back, Dave Logan, Ryan
and Rick Lewison Studio. I was thinking about this and
I talked about it in the post game on Sunday night,
about Sean Payton's record in September versus October.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
And historically he's been just really good. I didn't know
how good.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Though I was researching this earlier today, I didn't know
how good he was in October.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Do you realize he's the winning this NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Coach in October for coaches with at least fifty games
coached in the month.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I think I saw that last year.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah I did too, Yeah, yeah, And it's like we've
talked about, I just didn't know it was that good.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Like I knew he was better.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Like he's got just north of a fifty percent win
total in September, but it jumps all the way up
to almost seventy five percent in October.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So I knew that September was historically a bit of
a slow start.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Like I said, he's just just barely in north of
fifty percent thirty and twenty nine, but he went to
forty seven and sixteen in October. I say this in
parts to say, well, I don't know, is this a
bit of history repeating?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Is this what Sean is?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And this was maybe for the Broncos fans out there
in full panic right now, Dave, do.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
You realize Monday Night is actually September twenty ninth, It's
still September.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You could be two and two.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'm just saying I'm saying like you could actually be
five hundred for this month and then we're looking for
some better stuff in October.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Yeah, I would be interested in looking at maybe some
of the top coaches. And my guess is the top
coaches historically have better records in October than September, and
now maybe not to the extent that Sean does. I
do think there's a complication factor with his offense that
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at times will take relatively new players, as we say,
a minute to sort of sink in and learn like, Okay,
what's he what do I do on this play? And
until your players completely understand that, they have a hard
time playing fast and it just doesn't look as good.
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So when you think of him in New Orleans, you
think of that stretch where he kind of had things going.
He had Drew for the most part, Art, he had
Michael Thomas for the most part, he had Kamara, he
had Ingram, he had the big tight end Jimmy Graham.
So I mean we're talking about some great players and
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guys that were there over a four or five, six
seven year stretch. The core group of that of that group,
So yeah, I mean, I think I think they'll play
better on Monday. I think as I look at the Bengals,
I would think, and they may bristle, you know at
this idea. I think you got to get you got
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to get the quarterbacks settled in a little bit, not
necessarily settled down, but settled in to where is you know,
I'd like to see his feet sort of slow down
a little bit, get back to Even in the NFL,
sometimes you can get away from just the basics of play.
I know, as a receiver you can, I assume as
a quarterback you can. Every every position. You just have
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basic the basic tenants of that position. You can sometimes
lose sight of those. And I think, yeah, I think
the Broncos can get Bow kind of settled back in,
They're going to be fine. You know, we're seeing him
step up into the pocket with bad footwork. A lot
of quarterbacks can do that and still get off a
good throw. Bow has not been able to do that,
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and I think that's one reason why he's been throwing
overthrowing receivers this year. Certainly three come to mind from
the last game, and that's not really like bow Nicks.
We didn't how don't recall seeing that last year. I
thought his mechanics were pretty good, especially after the first
couple of games. It's almost like he's regressed. I think
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he's pressing right now, maybe trying to do too much,
and it just feels like, and I like what you said,
settle In, it feels like the game's a little too
fast for him right now, where he's trying to rush everything.
And if he can get back to playing like he
did the last half of last season, will be fine.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, you're taking on a Bengals defense that is well,
it's just not to the level of what the Chargers
were this last week, or even what the Colts I
thought were a pretty good defense the week before. I mean,
you just look at the numbers across the board. I
mean they're twenty six, giving up over thirty points per game,
they give up their twenty fifth, they give up for
two hundred and forty passing yards per game, third down
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percentage of twenty eight forty six percent. I mean, there's
there's not really a metric. I mean, their offense actually
is performing worse. But that's a different conversation because Joe
Burrow's not out there. So I hesitate because it's the
NFL to say a get right game. But I mean
you've watched some of the Bengals. I've watched the Bengals.
It's it's not an operation that is working as cleanly
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as it possibly could right now.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
No, I mean they're missing Joe Burrow for sure. I
think that it's a small sample size. The Bengals would
prefer us to look at how many games have we
won and how many games of the Broncos won. We're
two and one of the Broncos are one and two.
So and I do think the numbers last week in
Minnesota will skew a lot of those numbers because they
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turned the ball over more than a couple of times
and the Vikings got a forty whatever, they scored forty
four to forty eight. I mean, it was an ugly,
ugly game. So, I mean, I think this is this
game that the Broncos have to win. It's an absolute
must win for Denver. I think they'll I think they'll
they'll win the game. I don't know how the game
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will play out. Again, I'd like to see because I
think I think fans are kind of waiting after three weeks.
I mean, Bo, you know, look at look at Bo,
how he played in Indianapolis. I thought he played well.
He had to throw late in the game that was
picked all right, big throw, I mean, that's you don't
want that. But in that game, I thought Bo Nicks
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played well. Right, didn't get off to a great start
against Tennessee. And I thought last week again it was
not all him. I thought there was too much color
in his face early. And I thought he got happy
fee because he saw powder blue early in the game.
And there were two or three throws as Rick said,
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and I'm on record, I think, I mean, I believe
Marvin Memes is a good enough receiver that he's got
to make that catch down the sideline. If you lay out,
I think you make the catch. That's not me throwing
shade at Marvin. That's just me being tough on receivers.
The other one to Mims, which would have been a
touchdown after the fumble on the kickoff return, Bo climbed
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the pocket and ran himself into a big defensive tackle.
But because of that, he had to throw that ball
with anticipation before Mems was even finishing the double move,
and he could not see the break whether it was
going to be a bender into the middle or keep
it steep because there was a safety. There was no safety,
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so both threw it anticipating the break in the middle.
I don't know how they coached this, so maybe maybe
Bo's wrong and Mims was right. I don't know. Then
the court and sudden throw, that would be the one
that I'd go back and look film and say, listen,
if you will, just taken trust the protection, which is
easier for me to say in the studio because nobody's
hitting me, but trust the protection. That protection was really good.
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That play hitch just again, small hitch so you can
see the angle the court comes out of on the
double move. And then you got to put that on him.
You've got to put that on Courtland. That one was both.
He has one of those three passes, they win the
football game. I don't deny. I mean, all you have
to do is hit one of them. And Dave, with
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your experience as a wide receiver in the league and
calling the games with you, Dave and I will either
will off the air or on the air. I'll go, Dave,
I think he should have caught that. What do you think?
And of course you typically I think have a good
feel for that. Having played the game. I thought Marvin
Maims should have caught, should have laid out to catch
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that one ball. Yeah, it just went off his fingertips.
I think a lot of receivers would lay out to
try to catch that. I'm not I think he was
thinking that he had enough speed he could run underneath it.
And when you know, he's got great, great speed. But
they're just they're just off, you know a little bit
on those three throws. I would be more concerned, honestly
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about the seven to three and outs. I mean the
three throws. Yes, if they make one of them, they're
probably gonna win. But he's still got nine first downs
in the game. I'd be concerned about the penalties ten pennalies.
Six of those ten gave the Chargers automatic first downs.
That has to like cease and desist immediately. You cannot
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overcome that kind of stuff in an NFL game or
any other level of game. You just can't. You can't
give the team you're playing that many opportunities. And because
of that six extra times you're giving them first downs.
They have eighty snaps of offense and you have forty eight. Well, okay,
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I mean, by and large, if your opponent has eighty
snaps offense and you have forty eight. You're gonna lose
about ninety percent of those games and ten penalties. You're
beating yourself at this point. And that being said, all
the mistakes they made in the last two games, they're
just a couple plays away from being three and l
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uh some songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good from Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Very famously, Rick Lewis and studio with me Ryan Edwards
five six six nine zero or KWA Comma spret health
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or joining us After four thirty he had an interesting
video that he put out of bo Nick's talking about
missed opportunities. Want to talk to him about that coming
up here in just a little bit, but if you
guys want to interact with us again. Five six six
nine zero. I was listening to a national podcast and
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they were talking about the Broncos and they played some
sound from a listener like a Broncos fan, and he
was blaming the media for the raised expectations going into
the season, and I thought that was kind of an
interesting thing. And this actually came up on Broncos React
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of the Night too, because there was this talk about
one of seven Super Bowl teams and Bownix is a
top five quarterback, and I think the media did fall
in love with that a little bit. I'll say myself included,
like you get excited about that and on paper, which
is all we can go off of, we get talking
about this stuff. You and I are optimistic kind of people, right,
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We talk about optimistic things and we embraced that, so
it's easy to kind of go down that path. I'm
still not down on what I think the Broncos can
accomplish this year, which is to make the postseason and
hopefully win in the first round. But I don't know
about the media's role in gassing up the fans.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
What do you think about that? Well, I feel like
the national media and really most of us here locally
had high expectations for this team before Sean Payton even
said what he said. Now, when Sean Payton can came
up and said bo will be your top five quarterback
in two years and this is potentially a Super Bowl team,
then everybody was on board. Everybody piled on the nationally, locally,
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everybody and we were all real excited. Now it's only
three games in and I'm still excited. I still think
this team is a playoff team when you look at
the schedule, I do think they're going to get better.
When you look at these first three games, they haven't
played well really at all. Only one game they played
well offensively, and that was against Indian. They blew it
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at the end on a penalty. They had the Chargers beat.
You know, the weirdest stat that I saw the last
two fourth quarters Indy in LA, The Broncos were never
behind for one second and either game and lost both
of those games. So they're obviously really close with two
three and zero teams. Those guys are undefeated and I've
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seen them up close and personal. Both those teams are
playoff teams. A lot of people are going, oh, come on, man,
the Colts. Yeah, the Colts are for real. They're going
to win their division in fact, and they will be
a playoff team. So there's still reason to be optimistic
moving forward when you look at the schedule, when you
look at the talent on this team, and the Broncos
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are going to get some guys back off the ir
that should benefit them Drake Greenlaw in particular, maybe drewce
Anders too. Possibly, So I still feel good about this
football team. I do think they'll figure it out. Monday night,
I think we could see the Broncos explode offensively. Well,
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the Bengals are a hot mess. Everything about the Bengals
is a hot mess right now. So yes, they should
win that game, and I think they will impressively, and
then we'll see what happens.