09-25-25 KOA Sports Hour 2 with Benjamin Allbright

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zeros or Kiowa Common Spirit Health text line. We're gonna
hear from bow Nicks coming up here in just a
little bit. We had Zach Allen on earlier. If you
missed that, go check it out Kwycolorado dot com. Right now,
we head out to the KWAE Common Spirit Health hotline
and bringing a very good friend of the program who
is represented at least in logo here in the studio
as Benjamin Albright is wearing his Jenkin's Elite hat, Tim

(00:20):
Jingkins joining us. Tim, my friend, good to chat with you.
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I mean, what a treat.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
The band's back together.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Just saying you know, this is what we do. Tim,
I'm running out of clothes. All I got is the
Jenkins Elite had him.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm running. I'm running fred Bear here. I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I love it well, the we got new stuff. I
just I don't know who you need to talk to
you to get it, okay.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I means what I'll do is I think I'll talk
to the owner of the company.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
And he literally came to work in an undershirt and
shorts that he slept in last night because he wanted
to prove a point. He's like on some kind of
strike about clothing.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I like, well, we can him.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Up with some good stuff, Almo with some good stuff,
I know, bitcoins up. So he has the money, he
just doesn't want to spend.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's it's basically what it is. So I'm not just cheap.
In the end, I'm glad we got that recording here.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's good. That's good, Sam. It's really good to check
in with you again. Always love your breakdowns. Doing a
really great, really great job at all things QBS. So
tell me what you saw at a bonux here for
the first three weeks and his mechanics because that has
been a big discussion point. Is there concern there for
you in this first month, first month of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, you know how it is right you try to
not overreact. For me, watching just week three isolated. If
you didn't watch one and two and you're just dooming
it on week three, I wouldn't say it was mechanical issues.
It was pocket navigation. It feels like we are we
got programmed into a hard stepping up in the pocket

(01:52):
versus hey, I'm gonna climb. You know, usually when you
talk through quarterback play, you're talking, Hey, these tackles are
going to run by the d N that we're gonna
stay up once right to avoid that speed rush.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
And then at that point we're kind of anchoring in.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Because our interior alignment, our left guard through our right guard,
right left guard, tender right guard, we're they're gonna be
a little bit firmer so you can step up. And
that's kind of what creates that, you know, traditional pocket
that you talk about.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
It kind of feels like.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Bo is continuously climbing to the point that makes some
of these throws a little bit more difficult, makes the
pocket look a little bit messier.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Than than maybe they are. Now you know what's the
root cause of that.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I think some of it's I'm guessing the game still
a little fast, right.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
We don't like to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
We talked about it as if, hey, after your rookie
season's over, the NFL should be easy, and that's just
not true. But you know, then you talk about, okay, hey,
the Broncos is the defense right where they're getting after
him in the in training camp to the point where
it felt like he was evacuating the pocket more during
training camp than than maybe needed or that's going to
be needed.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Against some other teams. So I think, to me, I'm
not really that.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Worried about him truly like a biomechanic situation as it
is more just getting comfortable anchoring yourself in the pocket because,
like you guys saw them all twenty two, man, there
are some concepts open, there's some receivers that we need
to hit, there's other stuff that.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's like, he's making great throws.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
So to me, it's it's part of what this Bonix
experience is being right now is unfortunately a lot of
ups and a lot of damns, and it feels like
right now, in terms of the guys I break down,
he's one of the more streakier quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Right It's like the first quarter.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
You almost wanted to just burn the tape.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
And then we start off.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
In the second quarter and we make two great throws.
We have the Suton isolated up the sideline on like
a Harvey route, and then we have then we bounced
back and we rip a little en route to some
and then it's like that's more of the bow that
we're used to seeing. And then simultaneously we hard climb
on the flea flicker and we make a throw a
lot harder than maybe it needed to be. You know,
it's always easier when you're watching the tape sitting in

(03:54):
your office like I am. But simultaneously, I'm not the
one getting paid millions of dollars to make those throws.
So that's kind of where you know, you know, Sean's
on him, and that's kind of the growth that we're
gonna have to see down the stretch at the Broncos
really are going to make a run.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Tim's is just a question of you know, he's most had
too many energy drinks.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
We got to put some food in the stomach. And
what I mean by that is.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Is it just as easy as getting him some early
pitch catch stuff to get him settled down, you know,
get get some shallow crossers, get some easy stuff, hit
the easy button, and then let him settle down faster
than waiting to the second quarter to do it.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I think you're onto something in terms of can
we make a couple of the plays easier to where
he doesn't feel like you're saying, hey, get the ball
out of his pod, where I don't have to climb
the pocket, I don't have to navigate that.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think that could be one of the ways to
get him into rhythm.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I think the other thing is like almost talking through
his legs have been dynamic for him, right he has
extended plays in a scrambled drill situation, he wouldn't almost
got us a first down. That to me, I feel like,
if you know his knees not down short, it almost
seems like they win that football game and said the
knee short, they pun away, they end up getting the
ball back, it's a bad series, and then the rest

(05:06):
is history. So to me, I'm like, that's what it's
hard for me because I like that idea of hey,
come out with some easier stuff, but then simultaneously it's
like you look at the second quarter shoot when he
got hot, was you know, an eighteen yard Harvey route
and then an in route that it's like you're sitting
at between three guys. So it's like, I don't have
a great answer because that's all of a sudden when

(05:28):
he got hot. So for me, it's more or less
trying to get him in practice to give me that
hard climb anchor in the pocket. Can we can we
give our concepts downfield one hitch longer to develop before
we start truly getting into hey Bo, take off or
hey Bo extend the play. And I wonder if if
that would be part of the solution, is how can

(05:50):
we practice to where he starts to feel more comfortable
navigating the pocket within the pocket versus escaping it.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Tim Jingens joining us, you mentioned in your first answer
that he's been streaky. I wonder, well, I at first
I mentioned that, is there's a possibility that it takes
him a few games to warm up in the season,
because I don't remember him being this streaky last year.
Maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I
don't remember him being later in the season this streaky.
Early this season he was, So is that a function

(06:18):
of him needing some time to warm up? And and
is this some kind of indication that maybe there's a
bit of a sophomore slump here?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, I think you're onto it.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
You know. The other thing that that I'm wondering is
how much of this stuff is Hey we all like
to pretend, Oh yeah, I don't listen to stuff, I
don't do anything. We all know they listen and read everything, right,
Like that's just it is what it is. You can
pretend all you want is you don't hear any of
the outside noise. They all hear the outside noise. There's
a piece of me that wonders, how much of this
is is just.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
A byproduct of the expectations. Right.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
It wasn't just local media, national media talking about, hey
we need we think the Broncos are a dark post.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
For the Super Bowl. All of a sudden, what does
that take?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
It takes great quarterback and then as a young guy,
you start thinking, man, I need to do a lot more.
And what you forget about is the guy who played
forever for Sean Drew was the king of not doing
much right. It's almost like the skit and forgetting Sarah Marshall,
Hey do less, No, Well, you got to do something right.
It's like that's what you see some of these greats
do where it's you know, Tom Brady hits his.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Back foot balls out. Drew hit his backfoot balls out.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
We don't have to go and create these plays out
of nothing. We can just play within the play, within
the system and keep moving forward as an offense. We
don't have to generate big plays just by ourselves. So
there's a piece to me that I want to say,
it's a combination between kind of everything we hinted at
the expectations with him pressing the Hey, can Sean get

(07:43):
him in rhythm a little bit earlier, like Ben was
saying getting the ball out of his hand, and then
like you're saying, hey, you know, does he need a
couple more games to get comfortable. What I would say, though,
is if that is the case, and you look at
that moving forward, then there becomes the real conversation of
we've got to get him more reps in a presea
in preseason games, right he needs to go play some
time in preseason games. And I get it, you don't

(08:04):
want to lose in the preseason, but we also can't
wait until week five or six to start playing football
if we're actually going to make a run in what
I think is gonna end up being one of the
harder divisions in the NFL for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know, tab you talking about doing less there, we
are doing more as well? Could we do more with JK. Dobbins,
who's a you know, a top ten rusher in the
NFL right now, put the ball in his hands and
didn't they going to open things up for bow anyway?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah? And I think not only that, I think the
run game you're dialed in there. I also think.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
The creativity in the screen game. Part of what I
used to really love about Sean in New Orleans was
all this play action setting up of screens, creative ways
to get to a slow screen, creative ways to get
to wide receiver screen. I would love to see that
get back integrated into the offense. I get from Sean's perspective,
how he's sitting there going, hey, I had to do

(08:54):
that for Drew. I don't necessarily have to do that
for both, because he's a more athletic kid, so actually
when he scrambled around sometimes.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Those are some of our big plays. I still would
like to see it early.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
In games, though, right you can get away from it
later in the game if you want to. But I
do think that's a way to not only get Jak
the ball, but simultaneously you start to slow down the
path rush, you start to open up some of those
deep shots off a true play action when you set
it up with that play action slow screen always great.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Tim appreciate it, man and the breakdowns coming. Obviously, I
think Broncos fans are really meeting a little bit of
a guidance here, because there's a lot of hot takes
that kind of gets thrown around about Modex. Maybe he's
not a very good quarterback, or Bodex is really great.
I don't know that. It's all over the place, but
I appreciate your very reasoned takes on these things. Man,
appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You all the best.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Have a great day, all right. Tim Jenkins at t
jenkins Elite, make sure you go check out his YouTube channel,
The Breakdowns all things QB like comments, subscribe for the
algorithm and top Gun.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
And the legal people got involved, messed it up for
all of us, or or they actually helped us because
Toto would not have I don't know the total dangers,
Like I would not have had as much swagger. I
don't know, they wouldn't have somehow Michael McDonald would have
been involved.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
That all right, Uh, I don't give you any more
of that because.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, Grant has already got I can see right into it.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Speaking if we get to see oxygenized Michael McDonald celebrate
his entire catalog. See how we do that. It's really good. Yeah,
it really could. Stuff there from from Tim Jenkins. You
were asked, you asked about the getting in rhythm. Actually
asked about that too. We can get to that here
in a second. Also, the if, because Tim offered this,

(10:53):
that maybe reading the headlines or reading your own press clippings,
or in this case Sean Payton say in your head
coach putting the press clippings out there. Here's what Boni
said about that. I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think, uh, you know, it's better than him talking
about how, you know, tough of a team, tough of
a season it's going to be because we.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Don't have it. So i'd rather, you know, have the confidence.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Going in and you know, have the full season to
play and just get to go out there and play
it out. Then a coach that doesn't really have confidence
in us, I mean.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
He's never gonna say like, I don't believe in you people.
Coaches don't usually say that. Yeah, but that was QB
speak right there.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, i'd brother, you know, it's
something he's never gonna say. I mean, anyway, what there's
this QB speak? It wasn't anything you know, Yes you're
reading that. No, you don't need to be reading that. Yes,
Sean Payton came out and gashed this whole team up
talking about this is one of three teams I've ever
felt like with a Super Bowl and they're one and
two now to start the season.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, we haven't turned the page to October yet. Keep
it in mind. Okay, cool, if they go three.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I love those October numbers got booted because you were
beating up on bad NFC South teams back in the day.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Go back. It wasn't always that. It wasn't always that,
wasn't always that. All right, we'll come back. We'll hear
from h more from bo next. Oh wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
If we want lesser talent, are you if you couldn't
get Michael McDonald, I guess you could settle for Sting.
Are you saying that Sting on I want my m
TV when he when he opened that song, I'm telling
you that the A crew was Michael McDonald Dire Straits.

(12:43):
This is like trying to write a song in the
early two thousands. You went you went to Pharrell and
Nerd for your beat, and if you couldn't get them,
then you went to.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't know, man, I think.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
There's a good argument there for Sting backing up Mark
nine for not Mark not flurr, I disagree, okay, five
six six nine zero.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's okay. We got this very ill to talks on.
You know, I want there's moments I think we're on
the same page about things about life, then you go
and ruin it, and I'm kind of like stinging in
the conversation. My algorithm right now on certain things is
like staking, Dave Matthews and are like, I must have
been way too much til okay, buddies had a very honest,

(13:32):
couple really good answers, a couple of really honest answers
that I want to bring here to the show for
a moment. And this was in his press conference today.
So he was asked about offensive identity. This was after
Sean Peyton. So somebody must be writing an article on
offensive identity because that's why these questions come up. So
here's first what Sean Payton had to say about wanting

(13:54):
an offensive identity.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I think soon soon, yeah, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Real specific there, so yeah soon it'd be great.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I mean he emphasized soon, so you gotta kind of
think he's hoping that's Monday.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, any and there's a laughter, like he must say
there's a little rye rye smile from Sean when he
said that the Bonnicks was asked the same question about
the offense. If I did, he gives a little bit
of longer answer. But I like specifically the awareness here
of how the Broncos offense has yet to really integrate
some of the new faces. We just got done talking

(14:36):
about JK. Dobbins needs a bigger role. That's pretty obvious.
But we opened the show talking about Evan ingram acknowledging R. J.
Harvey hasn't really had a big role. You could include
Pat Bryant in that conversation. So I thought this was
some good honesty from Bonix about the sort of status
of the offense, specifically in relationship to the identity also

(14:59):
into the new PLA.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Well, I think with you know, you look at our
off season acquisitions, the guys that we got, we're still
trying to fit them uh into our uh into our scheme,
find out you know, where we are as a team.
But you know, we still have an identity up front.
You know they're going to keep the guys off of me.
We're going to be able to you know, not stay
in long yards because the sacks we're going to complete passes.

(15:21):
Courtland's gonna have good games and uh you know, those
other guys, as they continue to grow, they're going to
find their rhythm. And I'm going to continue, you know,
after you know, just twenty something games I played and
continue to get get better and better and see things well.
And then you know, we're going to continue to find
the rhythm and the uh you know, the plays that
we like, the scheme that we want to fall back on.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But you know, it takes about you know, three or
four weeks.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
You know, each season, you you're always looking around nless
you have the same exact team, with the same exact coaches,
and even with an identity. You know, it's it's important
to have. It's it's important to uh use and be
able to fall back on that. But the deep and
also knows you know, what you're good at. So at
the end of the day, you're going to have to
change a little bit, you know, a year by year,
game by game.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I mean there's a truth in there, and that's something
you brought up here in the offseason. The defenses are
going to become more keyed in on what you want
to do and especially what he wants to do. But
that's kind of got to be the next evolution of
this team, right, I mean, you got to integrate these
new players because what they're watching as far as last
year's film, that's the new wrinkle, Like the new wrinkle
maybe isn't you can't be something that you're not right,

(16:27):
But what you can be is, hey, what what are
we doing with these new players? And that's what you
have to pay attention to. That's the dressing on this thing.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, I think you need to figure out how to
optimally use the guys that you that you brought in
and incorporate them. But all of that is going to
fall under the umbrella of what is BO can do?
Bo can't do? What it is that he likes to do,
those kinds of things, and so you know, you kind
of you kind of go from there.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I think that's that's a part of it.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
You haven't had Ingram out there for you know, at
least a game one and a half, basically fifty percent
of the season, you haven't had Ingram out there. It
feels like they're still trying to figure out what the
rotation should be for Dobbins and Harvey and all this
kind of stuff. They kind of try to force the
Harvey thing last game and that didn't didn't go anywhere.
You know, there are things you're trying to feel out.

(17:13):
So that that's the That's the optimistic view I think
on this offense is that, Okay, we're still trying to
figure things out. The pessimistic view is we haven't, you know,
figured things out. You've got guys like Marvin Mims has
been conspicuously absent, you know, him at Courtland, not not
being on the right page on the deep bulk, and
to me it was more Courtland gear and down.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
But that's beside the point.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
You know, it's it's just not being on the same
page with guys you've had multiple seasons with that kind
of like.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Raises a little bit of an eyebrow. But this comes
back to something I said earlier where I'm starting to
wonder if this is what we're in for with this
offense and bon Nix, like, I mean, you hope not.
But also he is relatively young in his career and
it might might take a few seasons for us to
really know what he is, you know, and so what
we expect we tend to project on play right, well,

(18:00):
we think they are. I mean, perfect example is Evan
Ingram as we kind of come back to that one.
You know, what we projected on him and his role
in this offense. Where some projected one thing, you projected
a different thing. We all kind of had at least
assessment of more of what than he's been doing. But
you were like, hey, he's a big slot, he's a
big wide receiver. There are some type people talking about
that joker role and how he might be utilized, and

(18:22):
in the end he got none of it. We've got
none of it. But that's more of to I guess
the point of this is still a growth process of
kind of what he said. This is still something we're
working out. We're still trying to figure out who we
are and what we're trying to do. And unfortunately it's
happening while we're simultaneously trying to win.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Games, which is not necessarily ideal because you're gonna lose games.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
It's a little nebulous.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, I think, like perfectly said, to nail that down.
I think that's I mean, I think people looked at
it wrong. You know, I think that Evan Ingram wasn't
here to become the next Jimmy Graham. He was there
to fit into the little Jordan Humphrey role is really
what you know, it looks like roll, you know. I
think that's more what you want Pat Bryant to become

(19:07):
is a combination of Josh Reynolds to Von Velay, you know,
those kinds of things. You want Franklin to work into
that role a little bit to give you some versatility.
I think they kind of chop that roll up a
little bit. But I think you know, the idea that
that Angram was going to be this mismatch, that's that's
something he's ever been.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's a heavy wide receiver. That's what he is.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Like, He's always been that guy, and that's that's just
what you do. You you hit him, uh, you get
him lined up on a corner, you hit him with
a short route, and you hope he breaks the first
tackle and gets you some ards.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That's that's basically who he's been his entire career.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
So, you know, the idea that he was going to
morph into this the sole mismatch hybrid joker thing was
kind of silly.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
In the first place, you can get some mismatches with him,
but he's not Taysom Hill, you know, in terms of
being a mismatch guy.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well no, and there you go, like it's relatively early,
but we still I feel like can say that that
it's not going to be that now Kenny a bigger role.
I mean, we had somebody asking a fantasy question earlier
on Evan Ingram versus I think it was Dulton Schultz
or something like that. It's like, man, I hoped that
would never be a discussion, Like you sort of thought

(20:11):
maybe on the best of circumstances, Evan Ingram could be
maybe a certainly a top ten guy, maybe somewhere inside
top ten, where we just say this is what he
is for this team, like he represents a massive upgrade
to what you've been because you saw what it looks
like just last week at the tight end position without
anybody there. That represents that it's a barren wasteland of

(20:34):
ability in past catching ability and to the point where
you're not now starting to worry about I like him
a lot, but Adam Troutman is kind of a liability
when it comes to some of the penalties that he's
racking up, and so it's worse than just a barren wasteland.
I mean, I don't know worse is that, but you
know what I'm saying, like it's so bad that your

(20:55):
best tight end, your most complete tight end, you're kind
of wondering, Okay, if you're just gonna rack up penalties
for us in key moments, which you've done now in
a couple of games, what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, listen, Dave Matthews, we don't need an experimental jazz
fusion album from you. Stick with the hits. This is
what we want. This is what you're here for. This
is your home right here, ten and two. This is
this is where we want you. Uh to put it
in in Ryan Edwards, Parlan leave, leave Dave out of this.
I just to put it in put it in your parlant.
I mean, that's that's view Adam Troutman as an in
line tight end right blocker, he can give you one

(21:28):
or two catches a game for a couple of yards,
not gonna get you much after the catch.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
That kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
That's what you're hoping is a reliability, and there's there's
not been a reliability even in that limited role for him. Uh,
Lucas Crowle is a guy who's you know more more
receiver than blocker. You haven't really gotten much out of
him so far. You know, Nate Adkins is just getting
his toes wet back out there. And you know, he's
the guy that's probably the closest thing to a joker
on this on this team, if we're being honest, And

(21:55):
so you know, you haven't gotten him incorporated back into
not consistently for whatever reason. You know, Hall of Famer
Rob Gronkowski's just not out there cashing for you.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
So no, he's not.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
You really like to bang that drum, don't you. I mean, yeah,
it's a fun drum to bag.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, So that's what the tight end position has become.
And so when I was asked that question about having
Ingram versus Dalton Schultz, I'm like, well, my hope is
now that he had a game off, maybe there's an
opportunity to work him back in because the fact is
this is, this is the reality. You don't have a
mid game right now. Like you're taking these deep shots,

(22:29):
which is great that you're pushing the ball down the field.
I mean, that's that's something you do have to do
in this offense. And people said that they didn't know
if Bonix could do that at the pro level. Well,
he showed some ability late in the season last year
to be able to do that, And I think that
they will get on the same page with some of
these passes at some point, right, I mean, you keep firing,
that's what you're gonna do. So that part I don't
worry too much about. I actually worry more about the

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mid game. That's that's non existent. You don't have anything
that's either a drive starter or once you maybe do
gain a couple of yards and you're second to day
what you do there, which is to take a shot
either deep or you're doing some kind of checkdown and
then now you're facing third and long because it was
a negative play, Like you don't have anything that can
get you seven yards eight yards, Like you don't have

(23:14):
plays like that or at least designs like that consistently.
But that's what Everdinghram could be for you.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Like like legitimately that that him and Pat Bryan's should
be able to eat on those.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Kinds of routes.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Also, have a quarter Yeah, to have a quarterback, will
it take the will to take those throws? That's true,
and that's that's been a problem. You know, the thing
that bothers me. I think the most is the difference
in the biggest difference I see in what Seawan did
in New Orleans what he's done here. Where's the halfback
choice routes, Where's where's the where's the easy you know
stuff for Kamara or Reggie Bush or you know those kins.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Where's the running back screens? We have tons of wide
receiver screens.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Where's the running back screens in this offense.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
There's just not a lot of throwing to the.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Back, outside, swings, flats, you know, things like that, And
I just don't understand that what happened to that component
of the offense.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Here was Bona's talking about where he's at mentally, and
this was tied in the question to a video that
the Cosmiter put out there where Bonnick's on the sideline.
You got to read lips and he says something to
the effect that I left a lot of plays out there,
so I'm checking in on him. How you're hanging in there.
This was at the very end of the press conference.

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There's what he said. I'm in a great spot.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I feel like I'm always gonna leave plays out there,
and that's why I'm going to keep stepping back up
of the podium having an answer for him. But you know,
ultimately you want to go out there and hit every
single one of them. Have yet to actually play a
game where I have hit all of them, So I'm
working on that, but I feel confident that one day
I can go out there and do it. And uh,
you know that may be crazy on my part, but

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I truly believe it, and I know that the team,
the locker room's got my back in there.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
We're all looking to.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Find that that that rhythm and the right spots where
we're playing really good. We're being really efficient offensively. And
the good thing is is got a lot of those
mentalities in the locker room to where you know, tight ends, receivers,
oh line, we're all working on being as efficient as possible.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
So I think we're in a.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Really good spot mentally, because sometimes these games are important.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
You know, it's not like we're getting blown out.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
We've played really good teams and we've led until the
little last play.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
So sometimes that's how.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
The ball bounces, and you just got to make sure
that you're doing what you're supposed to do to not
only make your team better, but to grow as yourself,
and you know, ultimately we're just here to win football games,
and so you can throw everything out the window. All
this matters is the end of the game. Did you
win or did you lose? And how do you not
lose the next time? So that's what we're focused on

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this week, is just finding a win.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
So I guess the optimus view, as he mentioned there
that they haven't trailed in the fourth quarter, is that
you haven't played your best football, certainly right offense, defense,
or special teams, especially special teams, and yet you haven't
trailed in a game yet. Like that that if I
told you that before the season starts the first three games,

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you'd be like, all right, well, it doesn't guarantee you
win games, right, but you probably take that most of
the time. You say, hey, you're still working out some kinks,
but you haven't trailed yet this season. They could be
three and oh. They also could be oh and three.
If the Titans were a better team, they could be
oh and three and not and and have given up

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a long touchdown at the end. I mean, all those
things were very true. So I I sit here in
a weird spot. I think most of the time, and
I think Broncos fans are too, because it's it's it's
kind of a perplexing situation because you want to be
very angry about a one and two record, Well, simultaneously
you can talk yourself into the team should only improve

(26:41):
from here, which means that the opportunities to gather some
wins should be coming two. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Well, first of all, I'm not gonna get to the
point of anger over a football team's record, but I
am gonna you know, I mean, you're kind of disappointed.
I guess you looked at this opener as a as
a chance to be two and one, maybe three and oh,
depending on you know, where you were at both those
games winnable. You had some late you know, late breaking
stuff that they cost you both those games. So certainly
an element of disappointment to that. I I don't Yeah,

(27:10):
I mean, there are some games this is, this game
coming up looks pretty winnable, and so you're you're kind
of I think focusing on that. You win that game,
you're back to five hundred, and you're you're you know,
now you're back to all right, we're in the fight.
When we got a little uh, we had a tough
one against the Eagles, but then a nice little stretch
after that you.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Lose that game to Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
I think your faith starts to get shaken a little bit,
like what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (27:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
What? What?

Speaker 4 (27:31):
What went wrong relative to what we were seeing early on?
And I think that, uh, you know, not to make
it Robert Frostian, but there are two roads diverging in
the woods.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
And and this is this is where we're at with
this game. Read a book. That's the way we do
on on here, get literary, Yes we do. Yeah, and
and and if you want to really double down on
some optimism, since you're being very optimistic today here, Ben,
it's a rare moment I have been known. I appreciate it.
The the AFC isn't isn't the juggernaut this year. It's

(28:03):
the NFC. It's actually the strongest. I don't know that
I agree with that. I think it's pretty balanced. I
think we're a little early for me. You'll see that
manifest itself. Baltimore's defense and.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
As good as people thought, myself included, Pittsburgh is not
looking what people thought. But there are some teams that
are coming up a little bit over there in the NFC.
To Arizona. You know, you get the that NFC North,
that's that's tough. So yeah, I mean it's maybe it's
a little more balanced than it's been, but I would
not I would not sure I'd put the NFC over

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the a C. Certainly the AFC West is the toughest
division in the a f C. I don't think that's
I don't think that's up for debate.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I'm just going off of I mean, what we're looking
at right now. And you talk about Philadelphia, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago,
you mentioned the North Tampa Bay is undefeated and garbage,
your Arizona Cardinals, Seattle.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
The NFLEL Seattle will go to see tonight.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
There isn't a single team in the NFC West has
a losing work of record right now.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
But that's again, that's what you played. I mean, uh,
some of that, you're gonna catibalize yourself. You can't go
by record through You've got four zero and three teams
in the a f C and only two. Yeah, you
can't go by the NFC. They really go by record
this way. I mean you've got some you got some
bad teams in the as. I mean the AFC South
is honestly pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
AFC East is a bill.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Honestly pretty bad outside of the Bill and nobody. Yeah,
so you've got two divisions that are kind of you know,
and then the North, which you figured to be competitive,
doesn't have burrows. So now it's a two team race
and neither one of those teams have looked dominant so far.
The Bengals are in that division right now, and that's
not gonna say, but the AFC West is the toughest
division of the af C.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's not even close. M that one that one's up for,
and it might be the second.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Toughest division in football behind the NFC North.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Okay, I thought this would be an easier argument to
one with you, But I mean, I would entertain an
NFC West argument.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
But the three toughest divisions in football are the a
f C and NFC West and the NFC North.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Those are the three strongest divisions. But you, as an
NFC guy, with your wash Rington Commanders and your Arizona Cardinals,
that this would be a very easy thing for you.
And down is going to take a step back this year.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
As I repeatedly said that, no other two and one
right now, Yeah, but I mean we're free games in
the season. I still think I didn't realize that Philly
was going to take as big as step back on
offense as they have, so that may that may may
wind up being in play for Washington over there, but
Arizona will see Arizona Seattle the night.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
It is probably a good game.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think the Broncs can beat the Philly the Eagles
next week. I mean, anybody can beat anybody. I probably
wouldn't put any money on that, and I certainly want
to see them beat Cincinnati before I'm projecting them to beat,
you know, the reigning Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It only goes so far with these things been it's
just realistic. Yeah, of course you are all right. We'll
come back. We'll hear more from Shawn and Bow. We'll
hear a little bit from Pastretan as well. Get to
that next