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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Zeros or Kiowa Common Spirit Health text line. We're gonna
hear from bow Nicks coming up here in just a
little bit. We had Zach Allen on earlier. If you
missed that, go check it out Kwycolorado dot com. Right now,
we head out to the KWAE Common Spirit Health hotline
and bringing a very good friend of the program who
is represented at least in logo here in the studio
as Benjamin Albright is wearing his Jenkin's Elite hat, Tim
(00:20):
Jingkins joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Tim, my friend, good to chat with you. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I mean, what a treat.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
The band's back together.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Just saying you know, this is what we do. Tim,
I'm running out of clothes. All I got is the
Jenkins Elite had him.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm running.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm running fred Bear here. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I love it well, the we got new stuff. I
just I don't know who you need to talk to
you to get it, okay.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
I means what I'll do is I think I'll talk
to the owner of the company.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And he literally came to work in an undershirt and
shorts that he slept in last night because he wanted
to prove a point.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's like on some kind of strike about clothing.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I like, well, we can him.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Up with some good stuff, Almo with some good stuff,
I know, bitcoins up. So he has the money, he
just doesn't want to spend.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's it's basically what it is. So I'm not just cheap.
In the end, I'm glad we got that recording here.
That's good. That's good, Sam. It's really good to check
in with you again.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Always love your breakdowns. Doing a really great, really great
job at all things QBS. So tell me what you
saw at a bonux here for the first three weeks
and his mechanics because that has been a big discussion point.
Is there concern there for you in this first month,
first month of the season.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, you know how it is right you try to
not overreact. For me, watching just week three isolated. If
you didn't watch one and two and you're just dooming
it on week three, I wouldn't say it was mechanical issues.
It was pocket navigation. It feels like we are we
got programmed into a hard stepping up in the pocket
(01:52):
versus hey, I'm gonna climb. You know, usually when you
talk through quarterback play, you're talking, Hey, these tackles are
going to run by the d N that we're gonna
stay up once right to avoid that speed rush.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And then at that point we're kind of anchoring in.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Because our interior alignment, our left guard through our right guard,
right left guard, tender right guard, we're they're gonna be
a little bit firmer so you can step up. And
that's kind of what creates that, you know, traditional pocket
that you talk about.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It kind of feels like.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Bo is continuously climbing to the point that makes some
of these throws a little bit more difficult, makes the
pocket look a little bit messier.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Than than maybe they are. Now you know what's the
root cause of that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think some of it's I'm guessing the game still
a little fast, right.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We don't like to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We talked about it as if, hey, after your rookie
season's over, the NFL should be easy, and that's just
not true. But you know, then you talk about, okay, hey,
the Broncos is the defense right where they're getting after
him in the in training camp to the point where
it felt like he was evacuating the pocket more during
training camp than than maybe needed or that's going to
be needed.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Against some other teams. So I think, to me, I'm
not really that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Worried about him truly like a biomechanic situation as it
is more just getting comfortable anchoring yourself in the pocket because,
like you guys saw them all twenty two, man, there
are some concepts open, there's some receivers that we need
to hit, there's other stuff that.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's like, he's making great throws.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So to me, it's it's part of what this Bonix
experience is being right now is unfortunately a lot of
ups and a lot of damns, and it feels like
right now, in terms of the guys I break down,
he's one of the more streakier quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Right It's like the first quarter.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You almost wanted to just burn the tape.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And then we start off.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
In the second quarter and we make two great throws.
We have the Suton isolated up the sideline on like
a Harvey route, and then we have then we bounced
back and we rip a little en route to some
and then it's like that's more of the bow that
we're used to seeing. And then simultaneously we hard climb
on the flea flicker and we make a throw a
lot harder than maybe it needed to be. You know,
it's always easier when you're watching the tape sitting in
(03:54):
your office like I am. But simultaneously, I'm not the
one getting paid millions of dollars to make those throws.
So that's kind of where you know, you know, Sean's
on him, and that's kind of the growth that we're
gonna have to see down the stretch at the Broncos
really are going to make a run.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Tim's is just a question of you know, he's most had
too many energy drinks. We got to put some food
in the stomach.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And what I mean by that is.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Is it just as easy as getting him some early
pitch catch stuff to get him settled down, you know,
get get some shallow crossers, get some easy stuff, hit
the easy button, and then let him settle down faster
than waiting to the second quarter to do it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, I think you're onto something in terms of can
we make a couple of the plays easier to where
he doesn't feel like you're saying, hey, get the ball
out of his pod, where I don't have to climb
the pocket, I don't have to navigate that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I think that could be one of the ways to
get him into rhythm.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I think the other thing is like almost talking through
his legs have been dynamic for him, right he has
extended plays in a scrambled drill situation, he wouldn't almost
got us a first down. That to me, I feel like,
if you know his knees not down short, it almost
seems like they win that football game and said the
knee short, they pun away, they end up getting the
ball back, it's a bad series, and then the rest
(05:06):
is history. So to me, I'm like, that's what it's
hard for me because I like that idea of hey,
come out with some easier stuff, but then simultaneously it's
like you look at the second quarter shoot when he
got hot, was you know, an eighteen yard Harvey route
and then an in route that it's like you're sitting
at between three guys. So it's like, I don't have
a great answer because that's all of a sudden when
(05:28):
he got hot. So for me, it's more or less
trying to get him in practice to give me that
hard climb anchor in the pocket. Can we can we
give our concepts downfield one hitch longer to develop before
we start truly getting into hey Bo, take off or
hey Bo extend the play. And I wonder if if
that would be part of the solution, is how can
(05:50):
we practice to where he starts to feel more comfortable
navigating the pocket within the pocket versus escaping it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Tim Jingens joining us, you mentioned in your first answer
that he's been streaky.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I wonder, well, I at first I.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Mentioned that, is there's a possibility that it takes him
a few games to warm up in the season, because
I don't remember him being this streaky last year. Maybe
you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
remember him being later in the season this streaky. Early
this season he was, So is that a function of
him needing some time to warm up? And and is
this some kind of indication that maybe there's a bit
(06:25):
of a sophomore slump here?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, I think you're onto it.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know. The other thing that that I'm wondering is
how much of this stuff is Hey we all like
to pretend, Oh yeah, I don't listen to stuff, I
don't do anything. We all know they listen and read everything, right,
Like that's just it is what it is. You can
pretend all you want is you don't hear any of
the outside noise. They all hear the outside noise. There's
a piece of me that wonders, how much of this
is is just.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
A byproduct of the expectations. Right.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
It wasn't just local media, national media talking about, hey
we need we think the Broncos are a dark post.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
For the Super Bowl. All of a sudden, what does
that take?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It takes great quarterback and then as a young guy,
you start thinking, man, I need to do a lot more.
And what you forget about is the guy who played
forever for Sean Drew was the king of not doing
much right. It's almost like the skit and forgetting Sarah Marshall,
Hey do less, No, Well, you got to do something right.
It's like that's what you see some of these greats
do where it's you know, Tom Brady hits his.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Back foot balls out. Drew hit his backfoot balls out.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We don't have to go and create these plays out
of nothing. We can just play within the play, within
the system and keep moving forward as an offense. We
don't have to generate big plays just by ourselves. So
there's a piece to me that I want to say,
it's a combination between kind of everything we hinted at
the expectations with him pressing the Hey, can Sean get
(07:43):
him in rhythm a little bit earlier, like Ben was
saying getting the ball out of his hand, and then
like you're saying, hey, you know, does he need a
couple more games to get comfortable. What I would say, though,
is if that is the case, and you look at
that moving forward, then there becomes the real conversation of
we've got to get him more reps in a presea
in preseason games, right he needs to go play some
time in preseason games. And I get it, you don't
(08:04):
want to lose in the preseason, but we also can't
wait until week five or six to start playing football
if we're actually going to make a run in what
I think is gonna end up being one of the
harder divisions in the NFL for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You know, tab you talking about doing less there, we
are doing more as well? Could we do more with JK. Dobbins,
who's a you know, a top ten rusher in the
NFL right now, put the ball in his hands and
didn't they going to open things up for bow anyway?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah? And I think not only that, I think the
run game you're dialed in there. I also think.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The creativity in the screen game. Part of what I
used to really love about Sean in New Orleans was
all this play action setting up of screens, creative ways
to get to a slow screen, creative ways to get
to wide receiver screen. I would love to see that
get back integrated into the offense. I get from Sean's
perspective how he's sitting there going, hey, I had to
do that for Drew. I don't necessarily have to do
(08:56):
that for both, because he's a more athletic kid. So
actually when he scrambles sometimes those are some of our
big plays. I still would like to see it early
in games, though, right you can get away from it
later in the game if you want to.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
But I do think that's a.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Way to not only get Jak the ball, but simultaneously
you start to slow down the path rush, you start
to open up some of those deep shots off a
true play action when you set it up with that
play action slow screen always great.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Tim appreciate it, man and the breakdowns coming. Obviously, I
think Broncos fans are really meeting a little bit of
a guidance here because there's a lot of hot takes
that kind of gets thrown around about Modex. Maybe he's
not a very good quarterback, or Bodex is really great.
I don't know that it's all over the place, but
I appreciate your very reasoned takes on these things.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Man, Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You all the best. Have a great day, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Tim Jenkins at t jenkins Elite
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Make sure you go check out his YouTube channel, The Breakdowns,
All Things QB like comments, Subscribe for the Algorithm
Zeros or Kiowa Common Spirit Health text line. We're gonna
hear from bow Nicks coming up here in just a
little bit. We had Zach Allen on earlier. If you
missed that, go check it out Kwycolorado dot com. Right now,
we head out to the KWAE Common Spirit Health hotline
and bringing a very good friend of the program who
is represented at least in logo here in the studio
as Benjamin Albright is wearing his Jenkin's Elite hat, Tim
(00:20):
Jingkins joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Tim, my friend, good to chat with you. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I mean, what a treat.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
The band's back together.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Just saying you know, this is what we do. Tim,
I'm running out of clothes. All I got is the
Jenkins Elite had him.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm running.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm running fred Bear here. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I love it well, the we got new stuff. I
just I don't know who you need to talk to
you to get it, okay.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
I means what I'll do is I think I'll talk
to the owner of the company.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And he literally came to work in an undershirt and
shorts that he slept in last night because he wanted
to prove a point.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
He's like on some kind of strike about clothing.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I like, well, we can him.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Up with some good stuff, Almo with some good stuff,
I know, bitcoins up. So he has the money, he
just doesn't want to spend.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's it's basically what it is. So I'm not just cheap.
In the end, I'm glad we got that recording here.
That's good. That's good, Sam. It's really good to check
in with you again.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Always love your breakdowns. Doing a really great, really great
job at all things QBS. So tell me what you
saw at a bonux here for the first three weeks
and his mechanics because that has been a big discussion point.
Is there concern there for you in this first month,
first month of the season.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, you know how it is right you try to
not overreact. For me, watching just week three isolated. If
you didn't watch one and two and you're just dooming
it on week three, I wouldn't say it was mechanical issues.
It was pocket navigation. It feels like we are we
got programmed into a hard stepping up in the pocket
(01:52):
versus hey, I'm gonna climb. You know, usually when you
talk through quarterback play, you're talking, Hey, these tackles are
going to run by the d N that we're gonna
stay up once right to avoid that speed rush.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And then at that point we're kind of anchoring in.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Because our interior alignment, our left guard through our right guard,
right left guard, tender right guard, we're they're gonna be
a little bit firmer so you can step up. And
that's kind of what creates that, you know, traditional pocket
that you talk about.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It kind of feels like.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Bo is continuously climbing to the point that makes some
of these throws a little bit more difficult, makes the
pocket look a little bit messier.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Than than maybe they are. Now you know what's the
root cause of that.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think some of it's I'm guessing the game still
a little fast, right.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We don't like to talk about that.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We talked about it as if, hey, after your rookie
season's over, the NFL should be easy, and that's just
not true. But you know, then you talk about, okay, hey,
the Broncos is the defense right where they're getting after
him in the in training camp to the point where
it felt like he was evacuating the pocket more during
training camp than than maybe needed or that's going to
be needed.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Against some other teams. So I think, to me, I'm
not really that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Worried about him truly like a biomechanic situation as it
is more just getting comfortable anchoring yourself in the pocket because,
like you guys saw them all twenty two, man, there
are some concepts open, there's some receivers that we need
to hit, there's other stuff that.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's like, he's making great throws.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
So to me, it's it's part of what this Bonix
experience is being right now is unfortunately a lot of
ups and a lot of damns, and it feels like
right now, in terms of the guys I break down,
he's one of the more streakier quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Right It's like the first quarter.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You almost wanted to just burn the tape.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And then we start off.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
In the second quarter and we make two great throws.
We have the Suton isolated up the sideline on like
a Harvey route, and then we have then we bounced
back and we rip a little en route to some
and then it's like that's more of the bow that
we're used to seeing. And then simultaneously we hard climb
on the flea flicker and we make a throw a
lot harder than maybe it needed to be. You know,
it's always easier when you're watching the tape sitting in
(03:54):
your office like I am. But simultaneously, I'm not the
one getting paid millions of dollars to make those throws.
So that's kind of where you know, you know, Sean's
on him, and that's kind of the growth that we're
gonna have to see down the stretch at the Broncos
really are going to make a run.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Tim's is just a question of you know, he's most had
too many energy drinks. We got to put some food
in the stomach.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And what I mean by that is.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Is it just as easy as getting him some early
pitch catch stuff to get him settled down, you know,
get get some shallow crossers, get some easy stuff, hit
the easy button, and then let him settle down faster
than waiting to the second quarter to do it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, I think you're onto something in terms of can
we make a couple of the plays easier to where
he doesn't feel like you're saying, hey, get the ball
out of his pod, where I don't have to climb
the pocket, I don't have to navigate that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I think that could be one of the ways to
get him into rhythm.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I think the other thing is like almost talking through
his legs have been dynamic for him, right he has
extended plays in a scrambled drill situation, he wouldn't almost
got us a first down. That to me, I feel like,
if you know his knees not down short, it almost
seems like they win that football game and said the
knee short, they pun away, they end up getting the
ball back, it's a bad series, and then the rest
(05:06):
is history. So to me, I'm like, that's what it's
hard for me because I like that idea of hey,
come out with some easier stuff, but then simultaneously it's
like you look at the second quarter shoot when he
got hot, was you know, an eighteen yard Harvey route
and then an in route that it's like you're sitting
at between three guys. So it's like, I don't have
a great answer because that's all of a sudden when
(05:28):
he got hot. So for me, it's more or less
trying to get him in practice to give me that
hard climb anchor in the pocket. Can we can we
give our concepts downfield one hitch longer to develop before
we start truly getting into hey Bo, take off or
hey Bo extend the play. And I wonder if if
that would be part of the solution, is how can
(05:50):
we practice to where he starts to feel more comfortable
navigating the pocket within the pocket versus escaping it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Tim Jingens joining us, you mentioned in your first answer
that he's been streaky.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I wonder, well, I at first I.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Mentioned that, is there's a possibility that it takes him
a few games to warm up in the season, because
I don't remember him being this streaky last year. Maybe
you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
remember him being later in the season this streaky. Early
this season he was, So is that a function of
him needing some time to warm up? And and is
this some kind of indication that maybe there's a bit
(06:25):
of a sophomore slump here?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, I think you're onto it.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know. The other thing that that I'm wondering is
how much of this stuff is Hey we all like
to pretend, Oh yeah, I don't listen to stuff, I
don't do anything. We all know they listen and read everything, right,
Like that's just it is what it is. You can
pretend all you want is you don't hear any of
the outside noise. They all hear the outside noise. There's
a piece of me that wonders, how much of this
is is just.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
A byproduct of the expectations. Right.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
It wasn't just local media, national media talking about, hey
we need we think the Broncos are a dark post.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
For the Super Bowl. All of a sudden, what does
that take?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It takes great quarterback and then as a young guy,
you start thinking, man, I need to do a lot more.
And what you forget about is the guy who played
forever for Sean Drew was the king of not doing
much right. It's almost like the skit and forgetting Sarah Marshall,
Hey do less, No, Well, you got to do something right.
It's like that's what you see some of these greats
do where it's you know, Tom Brady hits his.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Back foot balls out. Drew hit his backfoot balls out.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We don't have to go and create these plays out
of nothing. We can just play within the play, within
the system and keep moving forward as an offense. We
don't have to generate big plays just by ourselves. So
there's a piece to me that I want to say,
it's a combination between kind of everything we hinted at
the expectations with him pressing the Hey, can Sean get
(07:43):
him in rhythm a little bit earlier, like Ben was
saying getting the ball out of his hand, and then
like you're saying, hey, you know, does he need a
couple more games to get comfortable. What I would say, though,
is if that is the case, and you look at
that moving forward, then there becomes the real conversation of
we've got to get him more reps in a presea
in preseason games, right he needs to go play some
time in preseason games. And I get it, you don't
(08:04):
want to lose in the preseason, but we also can't
wait until week five or six to start playing football
if we're actually going to make a run in what
I think is gonna end up being one of the
harder divisions in the NFL for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You know, tab you talking about doing less there, we
are doing more as well? Could we do more with JK. Dobbins,
who's a you know, a top ten rusher in the
NFL right now, put the ball in his hands and
didn't they going to open things up for bow anyway?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah? And I think not only that, I think the
run game you're dialed in there. I also think.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
The creativity in the screen game. Part of what I
used to really love about Sean in New Orleans was
all this play action setting up of screens, creative ways
to get to a slow screen, creative ways to get
to wide receiver screen. I would love to see that
get back integrated into the offense. I get from Sean's
perspective how he's sitting there going, hey, I had to
do that for Drew. I don't necessarily have to do
(08:56):
that for both, because he's a more athletic kid. So
actually when he scrambles sometimes those are some of our
big plays. I still would like to see it early
in games, though, right you can get away from it
later in the game if you want to.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
But I do think that's a.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Way to not only get Jak the ball, but simultaneously
you start to slow down the path rush, you start
to open up some of those deep shots off a
true play action when you set it up with that
play action slow screen always great.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Tim appreciate it, man and the breakdowns coming. Obviously, I
think Broncos fans are really meeting a little bit of
a guidance here because there's a lot of hot takes
that kind of gets thrown around about Modex. Maybe he's
not a very good quarterback, or Bodex is really great.
I don't know that it's all over the place, but
I appreciate your very reasoned takes on these things.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Man, Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You all the best. Have a great day, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Tim Jenkins at t jenkins Elite
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Make sure you go check out his YouTube channel, The Breakdowns,
All Things QB like comments, Subscribe for the Algorithm
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