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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Spirit Health Highline and bring on Jay Morrison, who
(00:02):
does a fantastic job writing for Running covering the Bengals
for binglestalk dot Com. Jay, thank you so much for
the time. What an intro. I don't know if you're
a Phil Collins fan at all, but we appreciate you
joining us today.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I do like Phil Collins. I like all music, and
that was right in my wheelhouse. That was what like
the mid to late eighties, right about my graduating high
school time.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Nice's so okay, you can appreciate the way I'm trying
to bring you out rock back here to this bring
some culture to the station.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Good well, Jay, we really appreciate the time. Obviously a
big game here on Monday night for both of these teams.
Coming off of that game against the Vikings, what do
you feel like you learned about this team.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That they could be in trouble. It's easy to dismiss
the five turnovers and how fast they came the avalanche.
It was three turnovers and four plays. Two turnovers were touchdowns.
It just snowballed on them so fast. So it is
easy to kind of dismiss that and say it was
so fluky. But there was. There were a lot of
(01:02):
things before that that we're concerning that they went into
that game knowing it was going to be loud. It
was going to be Jake Browning's first start after the
Borough injury, and they were going to play a lot
as well personnel and run the ball and be very
very conservative. And they could not run the ball at all.
Their offensive line was getting blown back. And if that's
(01:26):
not an aberration, then this team is going to be
in big trouble. And Denver's got a great d line
as well, you guys know, so I think we're going
to see more of the same Monday Night where they
try to run the ball and try to take some
pressure off of Jake Browning. But if Chase brown is
having to make cuts in the backfield again and getting
three yards on ten carries, that they have no shot
(01:48):
of winning this game. And really they have no shot
at having any kind of hope of making any kind
of meaningful run this year.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Jake Browning had a successful run of starts before a
couple of years ago. But the biggest thing from that
arrow is seems to be Joe Mixon. Am I missing
something there? Because I mean, obviously Brown and smogyp Ryan
or not Joe Mixon in the aggreg but you know,
mixing it really helped take some of the pressure off
and allow Browning to be successful at what he does.
What's missing for Chase brown to be that is this
(02:16):
offensive line really that much less? Or are these running
backs that much less?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Chase brown really kind of that was his coming out
party too, when he had been hurt earlier in the year,
and so he really started playing well when Jake Browning
took over in twenty twenty three for that seven game run.
The O line it's been an issue. They just ignored
it in the offseason and it was a glaring need
(02:43):
and they dragged their feet on getting Tea and Jamar extended.
They didn't reach the extension with those guys until after
free agency had began, had begun, and then all the
good guards had been snatched up. And so last week
against Mennesota, they have a rookie at left guard and
(03:04):
they have a guy that they just signed off the
street a couple of weeks before training camp began in
Dalton Reisner, who you guys know well it played in
Denver and then he gets hurt and they put in
they got two rookie guards in there against that Minnesota defense.
That's just not a recipe for success. It was a
mismanaged roster from the beginning. It seemed like it was
going to be trouble, and now it is now if
(03:25):
they've had injuries. They signed Lucas Patrick and in free
agency is kind of one of the last available guards.
He has an injury history, and he gets hurt in
OTA's makes it to the week one, gets hurt in
week one and that's when Dalton Reiser stepped in. So
there's issues on that O line. And I don't put it.
I think a lot of people expected this to be
a huge year for Chase Brown. He's a terrific back.
(03:47):
I put it more on this offensive line than I
do on the running back.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Jamy Morrison joining us at by J Morrison on Twitter
rights for Bengals Talk dot Com. Well, it looks like
Dalton Reister got in a full practice linet couple of days.
Is he going to start along the offensive line? And
what's going on with Noah Fan and Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, don't. I don't know that we're going to see
Riisner start. I think they saw enough that they liked
from Jalen Rivers. Reisner did a great job in stepping
in when Lucas Patrick got hurt after only having two
practices here in Cincinnati. But he didn't play well against
Minnesota and in the injury. He may have got pulled
in that game if it hadn't been for the calf injury.
(04:27):
So I think we're going to see the rookie. I
think you can see two rookie starter guard and Jalen
Rivers and Joan Fairchild. No offense going through concussion protocol.
He was going through team stretch today. It seems like
he's making the progression through the needed steps, but it's
gonna be probably a game time decision. And then Shamar
Stewart ankle injury, did not play last week, isn't expected
(04:48):
to play this week. That's a big loss as well.
He's been a really impressive guy at first drop, the
first round pick out of Texas A and M, and
they need help on that defensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The last one for me, you know another former Bronco
up there, smash a p Ryan. Could this be a
game you see a healthier dose of p Ryan given
more of that that bannering Ram and his ability to
catch the ball or is this really going to be
the Chase Brown We got to get him going show.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, I think you'll see more of p Ryan's He's
a terrific run blocker, so maybe on some third downs
they do lean into him on in four minute offense
and when they get in the two minute mode, and
he did, he had some run. He injured his thumb
in that game. He got the ball chopped out. They
thought his finger might have been broken, and which one
(05:37):
would put him out. But the best case scenario the injury.
It's sore, but it's not broken. He's going to be
able to play. He's also returning kicks for him this year.
I maybe a handful of carries if that, but it
is going to mostly be the Chase Brown show. And
this isn't an offense that runs the ball a lot anyhow.
I know they want to, but if they're not able
to get some traction there, I think you're going to
(05:58):
see them just drop Jake Rounding back over and over
again and over the best I have two.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
More questions for you. First one here is does the
injury did Joe Burrow buy Zach Taylor more time in
the eyes of the fans.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I don't think so the fans, the Fitchforks are out.
I think the front office. It might buy some time there.
You know. It's interesting because they you know, last year
obviously one of the best offenses in the league and
by all metrics, and Zach Taylor is the play caller.
He was largely responsible for that, but the defense was
(06:34):
horrible and they missed the playoffs because of it. He
fired the defensive coordinator. It always felt like this was
going to be the year that he had to prove it,
because you can only blow up, you know, fine escape
built like that and blow things up at the coordinator
level so many times before they move on at head coach.
I feel like the Borough injury just kind of pushes
(06:55):
not push his pause, but just pushes it down the
road that you don't get a true evaluation now. Obviously,
if if they get Jake Browning playing well and make
a playoff run, maybe he gets an extension out of it.
But I'd be surprised to see the team move on
from Zach after this year and the last one.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I have for you just more perspective on how you
think the Bengals, the Bengals fans are viewing the Broncos
right now. I mean, obviously we have just dealt with
two kind of gut wrenching losses back to back on
last second field goals. A lot of discussion out here
on Bonix and the offense. What are the Bengals fans
or what do you think the Bengals think about the
Broncos in this matchup?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I think there's a heavy dose of respect for
that defense, obviously, certain player of the Year, the defensive line.
I don't know where the respect level is for the
offense because it has struggled, But the Bengals have their
own offensive issues to worry about. That was the heck
of a game last year, that that shootout in Week
seventeen that went to overtime. I think a lot of
(07:59):
Bengals think it's over that the Minnesota game wasn't an
aberration and that they're going to go into Denver and
get their doors blown off. If they do, then there's
going to be some really hard questions that need to
be asked. But if they go out there and they
play well, maybe they can save their season. But there's
just not a lot of confidence among the fan base
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, I can understand that our resident producer, Grant Smith,
who you talk to. He's a massive Bengals fan, and
anytime I bring him up, he almost lowers his head
and just god, I don't even want to talk about it.
So I get that sense every single day when I
talked to him about it. A Jay, really good stuff man,
Really appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Thank you, Yeah, thanks everving on guys
Speaker 1 (08:37):
All right, J Morrison, really really good content there at Byjmorrison,
Bengles Talk dot com
I'm Spirit Health Highline and bring on Jay Morrison, who
(00:02):
does a fantastic job writing for Running covering the Bengals
for binglestalk dot Com. Jay, thank you so much for
the time. What an intro. I don't know if you're
a Phil Collins fan at all, but we appreciate you
joining us today.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I do like Phil Collins. I like all music, and
that was right in my wheelhouse. That was what like
the mid to late eighties, right about my graduating high
school time.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Nice's so okay, you can appreciate the way I'm trying
to bring you out rock back here to this bring
some culture to the station.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Good well, Jay, we really appreciate the time. Obviously a
big game here on Monday night for both of these teams.
Coming off of that game against the Vikings, what do
you feel like you learned about this team.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That they could be in trouble. It's easy to dismiss
the five turnovers and how fast they came the avalanche.
It was three turnovers and four plays. Two turnovers were touchdowns.
It just snowballed on them so fast. So it is
easy to kind of dismiss that and say it was
so fluky. But there was. There were a lot of
(01:02):
things before that that we're concerning that they went into
that game knowing it was going to be loud. It
was going to be Jake Browning's first start after the
Borough injury, and they were going to play a lot
as well personnel and run the ball and be very
very conservative. And they could not run the ball at all.
Their offensive line was getting blown back. And if that's
(01:26):
not an aberration, then this team is going to be
in big trouble. And Denver's got a great d line
as well, you guys know, so I think we're going
to see more of the same Monday Night where they
try to run the ball and try to take some
pressure off of Jake Browning. But if Chase brown is
having to make cuts in the backfield again and getting
three yards on ten carries, that they have no shot
(01:48):
of winning this game. And really they have no shot
at having any kind of hope of making any kind
of meaningful run this year.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Jake Browning had a successful run of starts before a
couple of years ago. But the biggest thing from that
arrow is seems to be Joe Mixon. Am I missing
something there? Because I mean, obviously Brown and smogyp Ryan
or not Joe Mixon in the aggreg but you know,
mixing it really helped take some of the pressure off
and allow Browning to be successful at what he does.
What's missing for Chase brown to be that is this
(02:16):
offensive line really that much less? Or are these running
backs that much less?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Chase brown really kind of that was his coming out
party too, when he had been hurt earlier in the year,
and so he really started playing well when Jake Browning
took over in twenty twenty three for that seven game run.
The O line it's been an issue. They just ignored
it in the offseason and it was a glaring need
(02:43):
and they dragged their feet on getting Tea and Jamar extended.
They didn't reach the extension with those guys until after
free agency had began, had begun, and then all the
good guards had been snatched up. And so last week
against Mennesota, they have a rookie at left guard and
(03:04):
they have a guy that they just signed off the
street a couple of weeks before training camp began in
Dalton Reisner, who you guys know well it played in
Denver and then he gets hurt and they put in
they got two rookie guards in there against that Minnesota defense.
That's just not a recipe for success. It was a
mismanaged roster from the beginning. It seemed like it was
going to be trouble, and now it is now if
(03:25):
they've had injuries. They signed Lucas Patrick and in free
agency is kind of one of the last available guards.
He has an injury history, and he gets hurt in
OTA's makes it to the week one, gets hurt in
week one and that's when Dalton Reiser stepped in. So
there's issues on that O line. And I don't put it.
I think a lot of people expected this to be
a huge year for Chase Brown. He's a terrific back.
(03:47):
I put it more on this offensive line than I
do on the running back.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Jamy Morrison joining us at by J Morrison on Twitter
rights for Bengals Talk dot Com. Well, it looks like
Dalton Reister got in a full practice linet couple of days.
Is he going to start along the offensive line? And
what's going on with Noah Fan and Shamar Stewart.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, don't. I don't know that we're going to see
Riisner start. I think they saw enough that they liked
from Jalen Rivers. Reisner did a great job in stepping
in when Lucas Patrick got hurt after only having two
practices here in Cincinnati. But he didn't play well against
Minnesota and in the injury. He may have got pulled
in that game if it hadn't been for the calf injury.
(04:27):
So I think we're going to see the rookie. I
think you can see two rookie starter guard and Jalen
Rivers and Joan Fairchild. No offense going through concussion protocol.
He was going through team stretch today. It seems like
he's making the progression through the needed steps, but it's
gonna be probably a game time decision. And then Shamar
Stewart ankle injury, did not play last week, isn't expected
(04:48):
to play this week. That's a big loss as well.
He's been a really impressive guy at first drop, the
first round pick out of Texas A and M, and
they need help on that defensive line.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The last one for me, you know another former Bronco
up there, smash a p Ryan. Could this be a
game you see a healthier dose of p Ryan given
more of that that bannering Ram and his ability to
catch the ball or is this really going to be
the Chase Brown We got to get him going show.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, I think you'll see more of p Ryan's He's
a terrific run blocker, so maybe on some third downs
they do lean into him on in four minute offense
and when they get in the two minute mode, and
he did, he had some run. He injured his thumb
in that game. He got the ball chopped out. They
thought his finger might have been broken, and which one
(05:37):
would put him out. But the best case scenario the injury.
It's sore, but it's not broken. He's going to be
able to play. He's also returning kicks for him this year.
I maybe a handful of carries if that, but it
is going to mostly be the Chase Brown show. And
this isn't an offense that runs the ball a lot anyhow.
I know they want to, but if they're not able
to get some traction there, I think you're going to
(05:58):
see them just drop Jake Rounding back over and over
again and over the best I have two.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
More questions for you. First one here is does the
injury did Joe Burrow buy Zach Taylor more time in
the eyes of the fans.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I don't think so the fans, the Fitchforks are out.
I think the front office. It might buy some time there.
You know. It's interesting because they you know, last year
obviously one of the best offenses in the league and
by all metrics, and Zach Taylor is the play caller.
He was largely responsible for that, but the defense was
(06:34):
horrible and they missed the playoffs because of it. He
fired the defensive coordinator. It always felt like this was
going to be the year that he had to prove it,
because you can only blow up, you know, fine escape
built like that and blow things up at the coordinator
level so many times before they move on at head coach.
I feel like the Borough injury just kind of pushes
(06:55):
not push his pause, but just pushes it down the
road that you don't get a true evaluation now. Obviously,
if if they get Jake Browning playing well and make
a playoff run, maybe he gets an extension out of it.
But I'd be surprised to see the team move on
from Zach after this year and the last one.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I have for you just more perspective on how you
think the Bengals, the Bengals fans are viewing the Broncos
right now. I mean, obviously we have just dealt with
two kind of gut wrenching losses back to back on
last second field goals. A lot of discussion out here
on Bonix and the offense. What are the Bengals fans
or what do you think the Bengals think about the
Broncos in this matchup?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I think there's a heavy dose of respect for
that defense, obviously, certain player of the Year, the defensive line.
I don't know where the respect level is for the
offense because it has struggled, But the Bengals have their
own offensive issues to worry about. That was the heck
of a game last year, that that shootout in Week
seventeen that went to overtime. I think a lot of
(07:59):
Bengals think it's over that the Minnesota game wasn't an
aberration and that they're going to go into Denver and
get their doors blown off. If they do, then there's
going to be some really hard questions that need to
be asked. But if they go out there and they
play well, maybe they can save their season. But there's
just not a lot of confidence among the fan base
right now.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, I can understand that our resident producer, Grant Smith,
who you talk to. He's a massive Bengals fan, and
anytime I bring him up, he almost lowers his head
and just god, I don't even want to talk about it.
So I get that sense every single day when I
talked to him about it. A Jay, really good stuff man,
Really appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Thank you, Yeah, thanks everving on guys
Speaker 1 (08:37):
All right, J Morrison, really really good content there at Byjmorrison,
Bengles Talk dot com
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