09-26-25 KOA Sports Hour 3 with Benjamin Allbright

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bright.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Ben will be taking you into the evening at six
o'clock with the Broncos Country tonight, walking up to the
final Friday night game of the Rockies twenty twenty five season.
And then of course he'll be back as we kick
off our coverage of Monday Night Football at noon on Monday.
Looking forward to your breakdown. There is that warm up er?
Is that game day?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
He was like, I'm not sure what we're titling that
as at this moment, but I will be.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Here noon too, and you need to be here too.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's an extension of game day,
which is very exciting. And then of course we'll have
Jojo Turnbo and Nick ferguson Life for many mile High.
Since it's a home game, that'll be cool down there
at the stadium, and then countdow to kickoff. We'll walk
you up to kickoff at six fifteen. Somebody asked us
when the kickoff because there's two Monday Night football games.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
There's like five point fifteen game with the.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Dolphins my Jets, right, and then the Broncos and the
Bengals are at six to fifteen. I don't love the overlap.
I thought the last way they did it was a
little better where it was like one started like an
hour and a half two hours beforehand, and then and
then it was kind of winding down as you got
to the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Honestly, in a duel between Tuatugo by Low and Justin Fields, aren't.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
You glad there's something else to change the channel too? Well,
at least you're finally acknowledging that Justin Field is going
to play.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
He had to go through the tests in the guinaful
practice as part of the concussion perpose.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
It just felt like you were rooting against him even
playing in this.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh no, I want the Dolphins to win, so I
want him to play rather than Torod Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, it's it's quite the slates. It's quite the slate
of Monday night football games. We have two zero to
three teams battling, and then of course the moronco is
unfortunately at one and two.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Battling is a word. It's this word that we're using.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
They are both teams are expected to show up in
the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
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(02:03):
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the game. It should be a lot of fun, hopefully
a big Broncos win. If you're a Bengals fan that
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you're a Broncos fan, please call no. I can't even
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or three seven one three eighty five eighty five.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Good luck.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Speaking of the Dolphins, you told me about this sound yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
We didn't get a chance.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
To get to it because of the show, but I
listened to it last night and I was I was
just absolutely dying.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Now Cam Newton has responded to it, but Cam did
this like winding around and I don't know, I'm not
going to play. Cam's response, it's not as entertaining as
Tua responding to Cam Newton's criticism of him as a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Well, anybody can play quarterback in this league, then, I mean,
I want to see anybody on the streets come and
play quarterback. I mean, Cam, Cam's doing his thing, for sure,
but you know, to I think it's easier to be
able to hold a clicker and talk about it that
way or talk about what someone else is doing wrong
when you're you're not going out and having to do

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the same as them, right, So I think it's it's
all it's.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Easy to do that.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I think anybody can do that. I don't think anybody
can play quarterback.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, So there's a moment in the middle of that
for me.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
For me, there was a moment in the middle of
that where it's like, actually, he kind of has a point,
right and sometimes and I think Dave does a really
good job of this by the way he says, it's.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Easier said than done.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's easier for me to sit here in the studio
and say, hey, lay out for this football Marvin Mims
or more courtland Son. It's easy to say that he
actually played the position. But even he, as somebody that
played the position, says it's easier for me to sit
in the studio and talk about these things even though
he did it, then to be out there on the
field in the actual moment of doing it. So there

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wasn't one until the very end, and that's when he
lost me, because then at the end is like, Okay, now,
doesn't really sound like you know that Cam Newton played quarterback.
I'm sure he does, but why would you say that?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That was just the dumbest possib I mean, it's already
dumb when somebody's like, well, anybody cann it's easier to
do it with the clicker, like oh okay, yeah, I
mean I think we're all laboring under that implied assumption.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's dumb when you do it about a former player.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
It's super dumb when you do it about a player
who'd been to the highest level. You know, MVP caliber,
went to a Super Bowl, that kind of stuff, Like
who's tua to sit there and criticize Cam Newton's criticism
of him?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Right, this is the dumbest thing.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I just to be like bo Nick's getting on TV
and be like, you know what, Joe Montana gay, I mean,
what does he even really even know?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
So I wanted to play that. And the other one
was Shure Sanders.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I guess people out in Cleveland are melting down because
in a candidate interview, I want to get your reaction
to that. But he was asked, well, well, first we'll
play the sound of Coach Prime, and I actually have
it here, so I'll play the sound. So this was
Deon Sander on the New Heights podcast when he was
talking about chadur turning down the Ravens, which we've talked

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about a lot, right, turned down the Ravens, turned down
the Eagles on opportunity to be drafted there and set
off to go to the Browns because he thought there
was a better opportunity for him to compete for a
starting job.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
So here was what Coach Prime said, Tell me it
is because this is all over the media. Because I
know y'all keep it a buck. That's why I love
y'all to life.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yes, they made a big deal out of till he
called us on draft day.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, they didn't mention that. I just let a cat
out of the bag. I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, Okay, who was it Baltimore. Yeah, in the Browns,
they forget I know I played for Baltimore. So me
and I said cool. So we understood that whole conversation.
And he wanted to talk to Shador as well as
you want to talk to me, and I put your
door on the phone in Chador. I don't want to
say how it went, But how in the world can
somebody fought him for saying or thinking?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Why in the world would I go back up Lamar
for ten year?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
For sure, I've never said on the bench and said, well,
I learned a lot today.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
It is a great quote.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I still don't agree with it, but it's great dumbest
premise though, that's right, Like who's keeping like ca back
him up for ten years?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
If you're good enough, they're gonna trade you to somebody.
To start the point like, this is the dumbest line of.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Thinking I've I think I've ever encountered. I couldn't agree
with you more.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I try to make the same point to Nick Ferguson,
and he basically told me I was an idiot.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
You go where you get picked and then you go
ball out to the point where if you're good enough,
they're either gonna get rid of the guy they got
for a bevy of picks, or they're gonna get rid
of you for a bevy of picks.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Ask Matt shawb and Michael Vick how that worked out
down there in Atlanta. That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And we're no longer in an era of football where you,
as a quarterback drafted to a team is gonna stay
there for the entirety of your career. It's it's very nomadic.
Everybody is moving all the time. Unless you're that guy,
like you're drafting the first round, you're gonna probably as
a fifth rounder see three, four, five, maybe even more
than that, teams over the course of your career unless

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you have a lot of talent and by the next team.
But look at Sam Darnald, let me even as a
first rounder, Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I mean, these guys are first rounders and they've.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Seen multiple teams until they finally got it and all clicked.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
And you know what.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
The thing they have in common, and this is the
point I was trying to make to Nick ferguson the point,
the thing they have in common is they went to
good organizations eventually eventually, right you were drafted by the Jets,
you drafted up the Browns.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
There's only so much you can do about that.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But eventually you went to good coaching, you went to
good organizations, and through that you got a chance to
have a little bit of football rehab. You got a
chance to start, and you got a chance to show
people that you could really play. So Senor Sanders, in
my opinion, my opinion, should have gone to a better
organization that's known for developing these kinds of talents, known
for developing quarterbacks. And then knowing that it's probably not

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going to be here that I'm going to play the
length of my career, but I'm going to show everybody
that I can develop and play, and by the next team,
the next opportunity, I'll get my crack.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Versus going to the Browns.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Were very people, very few people have expectations of you.
And by the way, at that pick in the fifth round,
they'd already just drafted a guy, so it made no
sense whatsoever. But anyways, so s Dour, in an interview
with uh Let's says ESPN up there in Cleveland, poor
letters sry for our sports network.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I'll never work. He was asked about his dad saying that,
and here was his response, that's not nothing. You know,
I'm a place to answer, you know, that's nothing. I
can't answer that answer. But I know for sure I'm
not I know, if you.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
See the quarterback player in the league right now, I know,
I know I'm capable of doing better than that.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh boy, So he says, if you see the quarterback
play in the league right now, I know I'm capable
of better than that.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I don't know, Like what name somebody you're referring to, Like,
if you're capable of better than that, why aren't you
capable of beating up Dylan Gabriel as the backup for
the Browns, Like with old respect to Shador Sanders, Like.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
This is the problem.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Your inflated sense of self and your your you're over
entitled ego was the reason that people weren't trying to deal.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
With this stuff to begin with. And so you know,
now you're out there trying to try to content.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Okay, I get having confidence in yourself's there's certainly room
for that.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
You got to have confidence.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
You gotta believe in yourself because if you don't believe
in you, who's gonna believe in you?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Right? But like, this is bizarre. Why why would you
not go to a.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Great organization like Baltimore where there's no pressure on you,
learn NFL terminology and NFL offense, get ready for the
ball out in the preseason, and then get teams wanting
to bid up on you to bring.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
You over to be their guy. It makes no sense
whatsoever that you want to.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Go to a bad organization that doesn't fit you, that's
got a bevy of quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's just like, this is the dumbest thing I've heard of.
How's it being received up in Cleveland? Oh, they're melting
down up there.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
You got half the people who think that he should
be starting, and in the other half they're like, can
we get rid of this guy tomorrow so we can
quit getting headlines about a third string quarterback.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Because that's exactly what he is until otherwise, like keep
your nose down.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
In fact, I'm not saying he has to turn down
every interview, but this isn't in the locker room interview.
If you watch it, it's in the locker room. It's
a couple of minutes. He's not doing very long, and
there's definitely I always say cold following feels strong, but
there's a following, there's a belief in Steduler, and we
foresee it here as Ceeu. I mean, people will swear
by him. He's a ring of faner for crying out loud,
but he has not proven that at the pro level,

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and he hasn't he hasn't really shown the core competency
to be a pro level quarterback.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
We're all rooting for him.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm absolutely rooting for him, but he's third string quarterback
and he's getting interviewed, and if he's getting interviewed, the
design of it is to try to get some clicks
and get some run because of his name, and he
knows that and so he played into it. But I
agree with you him saying something like that. It's like, okay,
well give me some examples where you think you are
a better quarterback right now in the league. Now, maybe

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you might appoint to like Michael Pennix, who had a
terrible week last week.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
But Michael Pennis, over.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
The course of his short career as short, he has
definitely shown an ability to play at a higher level
than Shure. Sanders says in the NFL one blip game
does not make for a career right now I think
you'd take most people take Michael Pennix Junior over Shoud
or Sanders, even after getting sand blasted by Carolina.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I mean maybe I think they're both kind of On
a similar Penix was not as highly thought of as
the Falcons certainly thought of him.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Around the league.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
There were some people that were gonna takehim the first round,
though not really. I mean it was like him but
not fifth round. I probably would wouldn't lasted to the
fifth round, but he was not. He was a day
two guy for most teams.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I mean, that's then example that pops into my mind
because of just how bad it was this last week.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Right, I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I mean, and to be honest with you, I don't
see much that separates Panics from Desmond Ritter, who preceded
him in Atlanta, other than he's left handed.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'll go that far. But I mean, go watch the cat.
Would you say, would you take shudor Sanders? Okay, fine,
would you take s door Standers over any of these quarterbacks?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I mean I already with Justin fields him over, like,
I mean, yeah, I'm doing that. I'm probably you know,
it's a dice roll whether I'm taking him over Spencer
Rattler at this point, Yeah, the same.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean the Saints could have little taking him over.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
To a like with the concussions and everything else, like
you know, the constant injury.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'll take Tua for now. Well you're no, but you're
including injuries that you think will happen. Again, I'm saying,
as he's playing healthy right now if but.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
His history, like you know the statistically, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
But they drift, they drafted quit yours and they got
Zach Wilson there, so they've I would take Zach Wilson
Overshoe do her.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Right now, I don't know that I would do that.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, so you think he's at least better than quite
a few backups.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
But that but is the juice worth the squeeze at
that point? Okay?

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Right, Like if I've got a surefire locked in starter
like a Josh Allen, yeah, I'm all lit over getting
Shador in there.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
You are not challenging the guy.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know your role, you know your place, learn the
offense when we come up, roll out the preseason. We're
gonna dial some stuff up for you the preseason, make
you look good, and then we're gonna listen to the
offers roll In. That's that would be my plan with
Schador's headers, I view I'm viewing him more as the
investment than I am as the player, because I don't
know what he is as a starter in this league.
I think he's basically, you know, probably case Keenum, a

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quarterback is a little more mobile than you think, although
we'll probably use that to buy time. He will run
away from Atlanta scrimmage to try to buy himself time.
He put up big time numbers in college. He's probably
his best if you spread it out horizontally, I mean
he's he's probably a Case Keenum Teddy Bridgewater that that
caliber of quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Before we go back to the Broncos and we'll get
to that here at the bottom of the n Only
thing about the cub Yu game, I think.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
That b Yu is gonna win, Okay.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I think their defense is really really good, uh, and
I'm not sure that the Colorado's got enough on offense to,
you know, to match up with that. You're gonna need
Salter to make some plays with his legs. You're gonna
need Colorado not turn it over, and you're gonna need
CU's defense to somehow turn the freshman over probably twice
in order to in order to make this a game.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, it's six and a half right now on
the game, but it isn't Colorado b Yu.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, it's like multiple things, right.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
B Yu hasn't really played anybody difficult yet, and winning
convincingly against teams that you're supposed to be is not
really a barometer of anything. Well, simultaneously, the two the
best two teams that see you played also beat them up, right.
Houston went up and down the field on them. Georgia
Tech also was able to run a lot against CU.

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And I think for me this just comes down to
sort of the matchups here, and I just don't like
the matchups.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I think L JR.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Martin Is is really good running back, Like I think
he's a really good running back, and he he has
I mean, he's averaging over on hundred yards per game
and they haven't even had to use him sometimes in
the fourth quarter he's doing that. It's it's like Ashton
Jenny last year, where you're like, well, the numbers actually
would be even more, but they don't need him by
the time that we're getting to the fourth quarter. Ashton

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Jenny meanwhile, did not reach one hundred yards like you
predicted last week, just.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Throwing that out there. They did not. He got into
the sixties and that was it.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Do you realize he's got like a negative I read
this stat on Wednesday. It's like his yards before contact
he's like negative. Yeah, he's he's not even go He's
getting hit before he gets to the line.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yes, yeah, he's got.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
One hundred and forty four rushing yards and one hundred
and forty five yards after contact.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah. God, like that. That's an insane status, sane stats.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
He's been contacted behind the line of scrimmage on every carry,
on every carry for his entire I mean that's not true,
but like you know what I mean, Like that, that's
what it looks like from the math HW anyways, But
but yeah, I want to I want to believe that
that it could be at least different than the Alamo
game alib A Bowl game, right, Like that game was

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just a brutal beatdown on so many levels, and that
at one point the game, you're almost just rooting for
guys not to get hurt, right because you knew sure
was going to be heading to the draft, Travis Hunter
was gonna be one of the top picks.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
You just were like, gosh, let's get these guys out
of here, because I mean that's how I tend a
few bowl games. Unless you're competing for a championship, you know,
a national championship, then I I.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Don't really buy much into the bowl system. Yeah, it's
just greed.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I mean, yeah, there was a way to incorporate that,
and they totally screwed the pooch on that they did.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
They did, and maybe there's some time to fix that,
to remedy it, especially as they're considering expanding the college
football playoff. But right now they've just because of greed,
they've ruined that. But yeah, man, I think, see you
can hang with them. I think if you can get
to the fourth quarter and you know you're containing the

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running game, if it's if you somehow can hold them
to like under one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I mean, this is an offense.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I think its averaged like three hundred yards rushing per
game or something like that. Last last night told I'll
pull it up again here, but I remember looking that
up a couple of days ago, that that that BYU offense. Yeah,
they're rushing for two hundred and sixty five point seven
yards per game.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
They put it on, they put it on the ground,
they keep it on the ground, and they're able to
milke out long drives and keep you get your defense
and it wears you down by the end of the
by the third and fourth quarter of your defense is
worn down. And then they start putting it to you.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
All right, well, we'll see what it does quickly, and
you know, we'll get on the other side.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
So I do want to ask you about Jay Norvell
before we get out of here. All Right, we'll come back.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
We'll talk about the Broncos some key matchups for us
coming into this game. We'll get to that next and again,
our cover starts at noon, coming up on Monday. Let's
start with a couple of important things that you'd like
to see from the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Starting on the offense side of the ball. What's important
to you on the offense, Oh, sustained drives.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
You gotta be able to run the football, you gotta
be you know, hitting your guys. You want to see
a couple of explosives throughout the game. But it really
just contained the offense. Hit the core concepts and be
efficient with those kinds of things and it's come away
with points every drive, whether that's field goals, whatever that is.
You can't be The Broncos are one of the teams
are the most punts.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
In the NFL through three weeks. I'd like to see
a fewer.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I'd like to see less of Jeremy Crashaw's mustache.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, he was asked about it this week, about playing
on Monday night football, and that's a new concept.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
For him being an Aussie. I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I think first down, even if you're only getting three
or four yards, take it right. If you've got plays
that can get you four yards, maybe five yards on
first down. I'm not trying to be greedy here because
some of those will break into something bigger. I mean,
the options will present if you continue to sort of
hammer away, especially at the run game. And JK Dobbins
is averaging almost six yards per carry right now for you,

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So if you hand it off to JK. Dobbins over
the course of the game, he's gonna get you five
to six yards. Well, gott a lee. You're gonna get
a lot of first downs, aren't you. But more than anything,
you can give yourself an option at second in medium
or second in shorts and maybe you don't have to
get to third down, which you are one of the
worst teams in the NFL. ADS.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
That's for me, like you're at home.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
It's an advantage for your offense the lean into it, like,
find a way to have this game being meaningful for
the offense.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Don't put this on the defense.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
That's the one thing that we've talked about, the balance
of power shifting here and the balance of being a
complimentary team, which they have not been like whatsoever to
start the season.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Don't put this on your defense to save the day.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Again, Eventually, the offense is gonna have to show up,
and this seems like a good opportunity because the Bengals
defense is struggling.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
So do that, Yeah, you know, fine, and honestly, get
get points and keep stacking points to the point where
you can try things out and late in the second half.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
You know where you can get an RJ.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Harvey going where you can try to try a few
concepts out that haven't quite been.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
There that you want to do. Don't don't come out
and burn it all up.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Throw you know, being super aggressive if in the you know,
in the middle of the second quarter, and then turtle late,
which is, you know, a hallmark of Sean Payton.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Absolutely, So that's on offense again, it's not even asking
for a lot, because there's times where we're like, hey,
you got to really develop the deep plays, you know,
the deep passing you And now, honestly, I like this
answer from Joe Lombardi when he was asked earlier today
about the missed deep throws.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
And here's what we said.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Yeah, there may be maybe three of those throws that
we had someone behind the defense. You know, I think
one he was kind of had to short arm it
because of the pressure. The other two I thought were
good balls. I mean they were right off fingertips, and
you know, there's so much that goes into that, you know,
and in that stadium, you know, you look back and
there's a glare sometimes and so maybe the receiver didn't

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pick the ball up and so his facing wasn't quite
what you know, he didn't track it as well because.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Of the lighting.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
You know, I think I'm that last throw, you know,
Cortland got hung up just a little bit releasing and
but you know, I get those two throws on the
fleet flicker and the one to Courtland.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I thought they were good.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Throws off fingertips, So you know, I wouldn't oversink those.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Interesting little nugget of information in there about the glare
that maybe you've gotten in the eyes of the receivers.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm just say it. Why did he say it?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I would like to present the meme from last night's
game where the referee is giving the side eye to
Jackson's Smith and j yeaheah. That was awesome. Yeah, it
was disappointing. That's the meme I'm giving to that explanation.
Doesn't affect any other receivers.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Why else say it?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Ben?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Why else?

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I mean, you know that's what you do. You look
for anything you can to, you know, to say those games.
There's like no nobody else has ever said that, No one,
So it's he. It only bothers the Bronco the glare.
It's the glare from that that self contained edendoor arena.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
He just must have been a reason they said it.
Maybe that's what Marvin Mim said. Doesn't seem to affect
the Charger receivers in that game. They didn't throw a
lot of deep passes. Actually there weren't there. There was
like one they thrown deep passes before. It didn't doesn't
seem to affect them rams receivers.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I mean, Poka seems that you know, Cooper Kamp, they
had careers of those in that arena.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
For whatever reason, maybe they you know, if we track
it must have been the sunlight visors that they waited.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm being told they don't have those on their on
their Okay, maybe we go practice.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
They only throw deep passes to one side of the
field that doesn't deal with the glare.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm giving you the meme eye again. Anyways, that was
what Joe lovarties. But they don't sound worried. The point
of it is, they don't sound worried. They don't sound
worried about the deep passing game.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
It sounds to me their view on it is it's
the chemistry that will come along and it will like
they're fine with it, because they did show as the
season war on a propensity to be good at it.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Actually, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
It's early in the season, so that's what you're gonna
say as far as any of that kind of stuff goes.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like it's early in the season, you know, we have
a chance. We're gonna build on it.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
We're trying to grow the thing, we're trying to get better,
all that kind of stuff, like, that's just what you
say at this point the season, regardless or irregardless as
the case might be.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Real world I didn't even know.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not sitting here
trying to blame stuff on the glare. And those were
those long balls were on opposite side of the field.
Courtland gearing down was on the left hand side of
the field. The Marvin Mims stuff was on the right
hand side of the field. So so it missed me
with the mittssmoth.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
It doesn't mean both of them were glare. One of
them could have been glare. Oh yeah, right, right right.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was just the one, The one whatever one we're
talking about, was the glare, and then the other ones weren't. Yeah, sure,
this this is come on on defense. I think it's
pretty simple. Well, actually maybe it's not. I mean, there's there's.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
A myriad of ways that the Bengals technically can attack you,
especially when Joe Burrow was their quarterback. That's not the
case right now. So I guess you're gonna continue to
try to light up Browning. You try not to let
the running game get on track. And you certainly don't
want Jamar Chase Anti Higgins to get going. So I
guess there's there's actually several things layers to why and

(24:11):
how you're going to attack the single the Cincinnati Bengals
defense or often sorry.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, I mean again, a lot of this is going
to predicate on whether or not they can get the
run game going. If they can't, our defense gonna pin
in your ears back and you're not going to have
time for late developing deep developing route concepts to work.
You want to take you know, you want to take
all that away. That's how you do it now. I
will say they do have the athleticism at the tight

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end position to be able to, you know, challenge the
middle of the field, and I have a feeling that
that's probably the direction they'll be going early with the
past game is trying to get Mike Kasaki on either
Alex Singleton or Stornad and seeing what you can get.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Out of that, and then Chase Brown catching passes out
of the backfield, especially if.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
The running game isn't getting on.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
There is something that yeah, and I think you want
concepts where your tight ends moving to the middle field
and your back's hitting the swing, you know, and that
kind of makes that put whoever's out there in a bind.
You know, you're gonna get a one on one and
then you kind of go from there. So's there's some
stuff there that you can do. I just think that
if they don't get the ground game going fairly early,

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I don't know how that team, you know, I don't
know how you take advantage of that with Higgins. Higgins
and Chase are gonna be getting a cardio in at
that point.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I Meanwhile, this pass rush for the Broncos is I
mean by every metric.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, you've got.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Three really good pass rushers, you know you, I mean
Benito and Cooper or top ten in their get off.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Jona Ellis is not far behind in that.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
And you've got three guys that are really playing really
well from that edge position and forcing a lot of pressure,
forcing a lot of quarterbacks to get rid of it
pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, they had five turnovers this last week. I mean five.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Greg Rosenthal tweeted out, and he's kind of snarky, but
he tweeted out something earlier today saying that the Vikings
defense is so good that Jake Browning will be relieved
to face the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
You buy that. No, not at all, right, not even slightly.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean, the Vikings defense is good, but what they
do it's different than what the Broncos do in some
ways up front. Now, in the back end it's similar,
but in the front, I mean, they use a four
man front and they like to they simulate pressure thirty
percent of the time. That's obscenely high.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
That makes their fore man pressures more effective. The Broncos
are set in five and a lot of that is
tied into you know, the front trying to tie up
blockers and then you're shooting linebackers. You know, you're trying
to shoot a linebacker. So I mean, no, I don't
think they're gonna be relieved to see the most effective
pass rush in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
That that seems like a weird thing to say. I agree.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Ben's coming up here at the top of the hour
with the Broncos country tonight.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
We're gonna be picking the CU game very quickly. Because
I did mention it earlier. I wanted to get your
thoughts on what CSU's doing. Now. They are going to
do a quarterback change.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
They're going with a Jackson Burssou instead of Braden Fowler
Nicolosi and I'm I'm thrilled about that because I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Done with BFA then.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
But Jackson Brisseau ins had twelve seventy eight yards and
a touchdown this last week and the loss to UTSA.
They're they're favorite in this game against Washington State, though
I was looking on some sites earlier today and there's
a lot of people still picking Washington State. I mean,
I think we're gonna probably see some late money coming
in in Washington State here as we move. But College

(27:23):
State's favorite at home is as they say, must win.
But where are we act here with j Norvell in
the CSU rams, I mean, he kind of does.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
The fan base is certainly.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Riled, I would guess, but he's been on an improvement
trajectory every year. So for me, you know, I don't
understand that the CSU. I don't know if CSU fans
have a higher opinion of what CSU is, but you know, J.
Norvell is a program builder, and you know, and they've
done that. They've improved every year. Now, part of that's

(27:57):
been with Dasio's recruits. You couldn't coach worth a darn
but he could recruit, you know, so that's I don't
really know what to say about Janovell's a good coach,
but you've just you know, you haven't had the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Uh, and I'm not sure you still have the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
And then you know, you just you're you're a program
that's gonna lose two three games a year. Two of
those are probably gonna be money games for you as
you build a program.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I don't really know what to say about that. You know,
Tory Harden still looks good, by the way, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I mean you only got the one catch up there
for what was the ten yards in that one, but yeah,
he's great. Otherwise they're they're putting him through the paces
he's getting you know, he's getting plenty of work out
there and you know, getting rotated through.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
It's uh, it's interesting that.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
You've already seen the money coming in on CSU S. Yes,
you started off minus three. It's not the minus five
and a half at this point, and they should be
Washington State. So don't give me hope. Don't don't hope
it'll kill you.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Don't do that. Don't mess with me. It's like Hawkeye,
don't mess with me. Not you, not, you,