09-30-25 Doc Dave Schneider with KOA Sports

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
As we typically do day after the game and check
in with doctor Dave Schneider. Brought to you by Ortho
Colorado Hospital, part of Common Spirit Health. Go to Orthoclorado
dot org. Doctor Dave, my friend, It's good to check
in with you.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are you.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm doing great. Happy Victory Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Happy Victory Tuesday to you as well. Good news.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
At least as far as we know, Broncos are in
pretty good shape. Although I do want to ask you
about Drake Greenlawn a second, but I want to start
with the Tyreek Hill injury. And boy, that was pretty
gross looking. It looks like he's already had his surgery,
but a dislocated knee and multiple torn ligaments?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
What's the road back for him? Like?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yeah, it's funny how these multi ligament injuries have completely
changed the management over the last twenty years. Some of
us old heads may remember Wilson McGahee when he was
at Miami and got that horrible knee injury in two
thousand and three, and at that point, every single sports
medicine doc was saying is done, He'll never play again.

(01:01):
And we all know that Willis mcgahey went on to
have a very nice NFL career, including for the Broncos.
But one of the guys that was a pioneer and
caring for that is a guy named John Urreb. He's
in Miami and he did that guy's surgery, and I
suspect it was doctor Uribe who did the surgery this
morning on Tyreek. The biggest thing you have to do
right away, I can promise you Tyreek was taking it

(01:23):
at Miami Hospital last night and immediately got a special
what's called an angiogram, the study where they inject die
into europe into an IV and then you get a
CT scan to make sure he didn't rip the artery.
I mean, the ligaments are one thing, but immediately Tyreek
Hill's leg was at risk. He was at risk of
getting an amputy. Wow, when you rip that many ligaments.

(01:45):
So I shot up a prayer for him. I mean,
forget about thinking about timeline to return to play. It's
like will they be able to save his leg if
he has an arterial injury. So the fact that they
have already done surgery, if you say that any sportsman's insurgent,
we're all shocked right now that he's already had this major, major, major,

(02:06):
reconstruction surgery where they're fixing his ACL and his PCL
and his MCL and all these ligaments. This alpha that soup.
We you know, instead of saying a multi ligament is
knee injury, we call it the EFL every freaking ligament
surgery when you're fixing everything in the knee.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Wow, I had no idea it was that scary that
you risk the leg. I mean it was scary looking
there and they're talking about I mean, it's you know
what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But I had no idea it was that bad.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's that bad. And as well, the other thing is
you've got a couple of nerves that are coming by there,
the one on the outside, your paraneal nerve. We've all
seen a couple of players that. The Dallas Cowboys had
a linebacker a couple of years ago, gosh five six
years ago from Notre Dame who had that scary kind
of knee injury where his nerve was also damned engine.

(03:00):
He had foot drop and had to play football for
a couple of years with a molded orthosis in his
shoe to keep his foot from dangling and dropping. Because
that nerve controls you're lifting your foot so Tyreek Hill
the engine. Initial concern was that artery, the popliteal artery.
Was he going to lose his leg or I need

(03:21):
the need to have major complex vascular surgery and what's
the status of that nerve. The ligaments anymore are super
easy to do. It takes a few hours to do
if you're very skillful surgeons, like some of my Panorama partners.
They make it look easy. But I'm the fact that
he's already had surgery and is doing well is nothing
short of a small.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Miracle, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Quickly on Molak neighbors a lot of discussion about playing
on turf. Why why is it that turf has been
such a problem for some of these ACL and soft
tissue injuries.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
It's just the the adhesiveness, you know, you saw if
you look at the slow mo replay, just as Name
is getting ready to do lift off, he's planting his
leg and then it just sticks. Yeah, just there's so
much traction, and you see his knee collapse and then
as mcl and then his ACL would have gone. I'm
one of those guys. You know, some of the scientists
say there's no linkage, it's or it's maybe a teeny bit.

(04:16):
I just say, there's no way there has to be
say everyone's big or strong, or faster or more explosive
on sticky turf. It just there has to be an association.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I completely agree.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
All right, last one here for you, Doc, and I'll
always appreciate the time. I want to ask you about
Drake green Law. They decided to shut him down and
just put him on short term IR, which I think
is probably the best for everybody. But is that a
reason for optimism or pessimism on your point? That they
really could not get him ramped up?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
When when we all talked a month ago, I kept saying,
I'll be shocked if he can play this year. I
sure hope I'm wrong. And they kept talking about maybe
in a couple of weeks, and I kept saying, man,
I sure hope I'm wrong. And now now we're looking
at another four weeks of him being on the list.
I keep thinking, I sure hope I'm wrong, because I

(05:05):
sure like his game and he'd be good for our defense.
But man, I still am so skeptical.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, Doc, shoulders shoulder will get back out of next week.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm believing in our bars.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
That's right there, you go shoulder shoulder fellas I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
That is doctor Dave Snyder from ORTHO Colorado, part of
Common Spirit Health.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Go to Orthoclorado dot org