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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Benny Fowler is gonna join us tomorrow in studio. Looking
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forward to that. All Right, so we're talking a little
bit about the overtime finish on Sunday Night Football. It
was a little anti climactic. Listen, I don't want to
go too hot takesh on this because a lot of
people don't. Nobody likes the ties like we like ties.
We watch soccer. That's really what it comes down to.
We'd all be soccer fans here in the United States.
We don't like ties. I don't know exactly what the
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fix is, but the one thing I will say that
that was kind of annoying for me is so the
Packers actually almost really messed this thing up, right, They
almost let the clock run out on that final play,
but then they have one second left for the Brandon
McManus tie, the field goal tied forty. All I was
wondering in that moment, you're Matt Lafleur and yet one
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second left. We've seen coaches, maybe even almost recklessly just
say you know what, we're going for the win. We're
not going for a tie. We'd rather be lose. We'd
rather lose this game then, except that we're kicking the
field goal for the tie. I was actually more surprised
by that decision with one second left, accepting a tie,
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and maybe that's just a read of your team, a
read of the sideline or read of the moment, and
you feel, gosh, we played so hard. It would really
suck to come out of this thing with a loss,
after everything has been said and done, after everything that
happened in transpired tonight. It would really suck to fly
home to Green Bay with an l. But what would
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have been meant to win in Dallas on a last
second play like that. That to that was the bigger
surprise for me, is that they kicked the field goal
with one second left, because I've seen plenty of coaches
where even that's to their own detriment, say we're not
playing for a tie. We're going to play for a
win because that's what we're supposed to do in the NFL.
So it's a little surprised by that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What about you, Yeah, you see that a lot, as
you said, where coaches will go for two yeah, right,
instead of kicking an extra point to tie the game up.
You see it in college as well. I saw that
in the game this weekend. In college. I think it
was the Georgia Tech get right, I believe that's how
it ended. Yeah, I think the Packers probably looked at
it like a tie could benefit them. Maybe they're going
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to be a playoff team, it looks like, and a
tie would look better than a loss in the long run.
I'm guessing maybe that's why they took that route.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So if that's obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The safer play and it could work out for them
when you get down to the end of the season
and it's all bunched up there at the top, you
take away a loss from them.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Other than going to college rules for overtime, I don't
know how else you fix this.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
How about like a shootout in hockey.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The field goal kickers.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Either field goal kickers or maybe this would be kind
of fun, actually, each team gets one play from the
twenty five yard line to trotey hit a twenty five
yard touchdown pass or touchdown any way. You could score
one play at a time, back and forth, back and forth,
back and forth. Somebody's gonna hit one up to a point.
I mean, you couldn't do that all night, right, But
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I do like to shootout in hockey a lot. That's exciting.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I like what hockey did. You're right trying to
find a parallel right, because they went to a three
man over time. Yeah, right, where it's sudden death three on.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Three, three on three, So how about you take out
a two defensive backs of ot M.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The thing is is you don't want to go too
far away from what the sport is hockey. It was
it's very good, right, three on three overtime. Hockey's sensational,
it's very exciting, but it is it is not traditional,
and of course in the postseason they don't do it.
They go five on five. So I hesitate to get
too far away from what you are because there are
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teams that have strengths and deficiencies at different points. Like
Ben's suggestion he tweeted it out, was you'd go kicker
style right field goal kickers and you keep moving back
five yards. It's like, well, that's great if you have
one of the best kickers in the league. If you've
got the kicker for the Cowboys, he he is a
break he's phenomenal. I would be. I would bet Brendan
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Aubrey's gonna win that thing every single time. I can
take it from seventy yards out.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, and I thought kickers too. And I'm just a
bitballing here, but for me, I'd rather have an every
down player yeah, me too, win the game for you
rather than the kicker come on on the kick in
a field.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Goal exactly like if you have Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Or do you like right?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So that's why I was thinking, maybe you know you
you pass or whatever from the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Two shots at it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The point of it is, and this is why the
NFL and the NFL is fine with us talking about
it positively or negatively, because they're talking. We're talking about it.
So Roger Goodell, people were like, he's got to fetch this,
and it's like, I don't think he cares. Like either way.
We're talking about the NFL, but we as fans would
like more resolved. Something problem is is under health and safety,
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which is what the NFL always leans back on. They're
never going to go to double overtime. We're never going
to go to do any more than what we're doing.
The fact that they've come as far as they have
to allow both teams to at least possess it once,
which actually I didn't know if that would ever happen
because they really did like the sudden death nature of it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Hey you score. That was never fair.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, it wasn't fair because we now and live in
the world where offenses rule the NFL, and if you
have an elite offense or elite quarterback and they touch
the ball first, like they just win the coin toss.
We saw so many times with the Chiefs just walk
off win games because nobody was stopping that offense for
years and it didn't feel fair, especially in the postseason.
And they fixed it initially the postseason. Now it's the
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regular season too, but that's just this year. This is
the first year where both teams get a chance to
possess it regardless. So it's come a long way. But yeah,
I think we're gonna continue to see moments like this
because they don't they don't have a solution unless they go,
in my opinion, to college style overtime. That's about the
only solution in my opinion, that keeps it football. You're
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still playing football from the twenty five right year or
biggest a chance and then we actually will have finality
because by you get to double overtime, then you have
to go for two, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
This is kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
From the three to zero three at the first overtime
two point conversion attempts, each team guaranteed one try, and
you go until one team makes it stops the other team.
That play would be very exciting. Yeah, so you could run,
you could pass. Uh, you just can't kick a field
goal from there. It has to be a regular play.
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I think that would be pretty exciting, way more exciting
than a tie football game. And I do think the
NFL should address that. It's just nobody likes to tie.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Really.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
See, you know, the Packers tie it on the last
second field goal, and they weren't even happy.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
They weren't happy about it. And somebody says here, well,
it makes no sense to take a five percent chance,
whatever the odds were, to score a touchdown, that you
just take the go ahead tie and throw uh yeah,
go ahead time and throw away the tie. And I
understand your point, and then yeah, you it would be
second second guest kind of either way, Right, you're Brendan mcmanuson,
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I mean, so you're Matt lafleoor. You send Brendan McManus
out there for the tie you know, people are gonna
be like, you could have gone for the win, you
had one second left, you had you had to play
what's your best play? But then yeah, you go the
other side of that and it's like yeah, and then
we lose this game, and everybody's gonna be like, dude,
that mathematically would have made sense to you at the
end of the season, that that half point matters.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, it will matter to the Packers. I believe it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I just had a flashback to the the Broncos
Bengals game last year. Oh yeah, when Sean Payton played
for the tie, the.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The tie mattered, and it wanted to go for two.
But then was it uh an injury or something. Was
there some kind of timeout I can't remember, if they
laid and then they talked themselves out of going for two. Yes,
And then oh no, it was they had a confirment.
They had to confirm Marvin Mims, and the confirmation took
an extra beat, and in that process he was reminded
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of or otherwise a tie gets us in. And so
then it became gosh, can we play for a tie
in overtime or at least give it ourselves the option
of that because then if you go for two and
you don't get it, that's again something that gets second guessed, like, hey, coach,
you went for two there at the end. You had
a lot of momentum. I always feel like if you're
the road team, you be more aggressive in those kinds
of moments, Like that's my opinion. Like if you're the
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home team, if you're the home team, take the tie,
go to overtime, you feel like you're gonna have the crowd.
There's a little extra juice there. But if you're the
away team and you're in position to close it out,
you go.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, there's something to that. Also a factor in momentum.
If you have all the momentum going into that final
play and you kick a field goal to go into
overtime knowing you got mo on your side. I get
that too. It seems like that would work up, especially
at home. It's certainly a factor.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
There's one pure hockey fans hate the shootout. I understand that.
That's kind of my point of why I said, if
you get too far away from what the game is,
then you get the purists that aren't gonna like it,
and I do. No hockey fans hate shootout, and then
probably most of them hate the three on three though
I think three on three overtime hockey is pretty awesome.
It is wide open fun, but it's way different than
five on five obviously.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And I get pure hockey fans hating the shoot up,
but how about just regular fans, casual hockey fans.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, I think they probably love it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And I think the NHL should be looking to bring
in new fans to hockey, not your's, your hockey purists.
That's a really niche sport.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
When you look at hockey ratings compared to football ratings,
no comparison.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
In the United States, Canada.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So the NHL, I guess they're yeah, Canada, the NHL
maybe could look at it like, how do we bring
in new people to watch hockey?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And although although if you ask die hard hockey fans,
they don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They don't they don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We don't watch you.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, we don't want the fans.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, there's a lot of controversy this week because
Bad Bunny is going to be the Super Bowl halftime performer. Yeah,
And I announced it on my morning show yesterday, and
people like, who he Bad Bunny? What what is the
NFL thinking. They're just blowing off all of their you know,
their fan base. The NFL is thinking big picture.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They are.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They're trying to bring in new NFL fans and so
that's they do that better than anybody they're thinking globally.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah they are. That's that's what this move is.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They know you're gonna watch, yes, they so they're taking
you for granted. Yeah, I understand that. But you bring
in these these halftime performers we've seen recently recently, they're
trying to attract a whole new fan base and they're
pretty damn good at it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And he's a massive draw. Like whatever you say, I mean,
maybe you even still haven't heard any music or heard
of Bad Bunny and I am.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Couldn't name one Bad Bunny, but I know who he is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I know who he is. You know the Grammys. If
you watch the Grammys, he cleans up like he does
really well there. He's one of the top streaming artists
in the world. Any nice. I mean, he's popular in
the United States too. It's just again, it may not
be your kind of music, but that's what you gotta do.
You gotta think about the forty chess of this, which
is the NFL is continuing to try to build this globally.
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There's a reason why Roger Goodell said the other day
he wants sixteen international games every year, like that's the goal.
They want every team to play internationally once every year.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
They know what they're doing and like Taylor Swift. They
get a lot of blowback on Taylor Swift, but she
brought in a bunch of young eemails, yes, thirteen to eighteen,
thirteen to twenty one year old women. The ratings went
through the roof because of her and the die hard
hardcore football fans they're not happy about it, but the
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NFL knows, hey, you're going to watch anyway. We're trying
to bring these girls and you bring these young girls
to the party now, and you're really building that brand
and nobody does it better than them.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Nobody does it better. And the results are what the
results are. They keep growing because like you said, the
fans that are fans now will stay fans because the
product is unmatched. There isn't there isn't anything else. And
we of course around the NFL, we worked with with
the Broncos, but there isn't any other product that is
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more dramatic or more interesting than the NFL. The product
does not miss. I mean, we just played a bunch
of highlights, and all of those games had dramatic moments.
The Broncos Bengals game was probably the least dramatic game
of the entire weekend. It's pretty rare. It's pretty rare
to have a situation where, and especially in a primetime
game where you go to the fourth quarter and that
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thing is is sewn up. Maybe the Lions game with
the Browns, but even then there was there were some weird,
quirky moments in that game too. There is a lot
of excitement in that game. The Browns defense sectually pretty good.
It just it just ended up their offense them down
and you know, is sort of what it is. It
kind of escalated. But most games are down to the wire.
Most games are fourth quarter late if you're progressing. You
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know that because we've lost two of them like that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, most of them are one score games, and the
NFL loves that. Yeah, the parody and don't hold me
to this, but I believe the top one hundred rated
TV shows of the year ninety five are NFL games. Yeah,
you know, it's that dramatic ninety five maybe even more
of the top one hundred. The NFL is the king
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of media. There's nobody even close. Nobody can compare. And
could you could put together the National Hockey League Game
seven Stanley Cup game ratings with the NBA Game seven,
Championship game, World Series Game seven, they wouldn't add up
to the most popular NFL game or most watching NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Regular regular season game of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Now the Super Bowl is a whole different story. They
got one hundred and twenty million people watching now.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So that's the answer to the people that have been
grousing about it, and I have seen it in the ends. Yeah,
would Metallica be fun, Sure, we'd all we'd be amped
about as you work on the Fox in a classic
rock I mean, there would be artists out there that
they could do that. But that doesn't grow you. You
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are going to satisfy that fan base. And it's not
to say that they completely don't want that fan base
to care. They do. It's a great product anyways, you're
already buying. What they want to do is to sort
of build this thing into the future, and I think
it's probably smart money. And smart business in the end,
and people will push back on it. But that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And when it comes to the halftime show, lately, they've
been bringing in acts from that region or that city,
and so bad Bunny, I think would make sense super
Bowl in Miami. Yeah, now in the Bay Area Metallica, Yeah,
the Bay Area connects right with Metallica. I was a
little surprised. I thought this might be the year they
go back to a rock band, and Metallica is huge.
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They sold out two shows here that empower Field. I
thought this would be the year they kind of go
back a little bit, but nope, they went.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Bad Bunny this one.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
On the text line, let's talk about the artists that
turned down the NFL Super Bowl and why well, I mean,
I don't know the list of artists that have turned down,
but they don't get paid to do this, so I
don't And the pressure I imagine, and I don't know
this for every artist that says yes or no or whatever,
the pressure to be I mean, the scrutiny of the
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halftime show is probably different than anything else you will
ever experience because it is that kind of audience. So
I mean, we come in on a Monday after a
Super Bowl Sunday, and the game is important, but it's
not important to everybody because the commercials, the halftime show,
the presentation of the Super Bowl is a big deal.
It's it's significant, huge, and that's that's the water cooler,
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that's on sports talk radio, that is everywhere. So I
don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that you wouldn't
want that opportunity. And then of course all the streaming
and stuff that's gonna come with it and being on
the lips of everybody around the world. But boy, you know,
you put on a bad halftime show, and we've seen
a few.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We have, it can hurt you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It can kind of hurt you. There's a risk reward
and if you're not even paid.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Anyways, yeah, yeah, a lot of people don't realize they're
not paid. Yeah, And it's a massive production, massive exposure.
You know that Roger Gooden would have loved to have
Taylor Swift play the halftime, yes, which is a little
risky for her because what if the Chiefs were in
the game, that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
There's rumors that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
She was asked and turned it down and turned it down, Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And I could.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I could understand that from her, and she doesn't need
the exposure either. But Bad Bunny, he's he's big here,
but he's really big, you know, not only Puerto Rico,
but South America. You know, in the Spanish speaking country.
All of the songs are in Spanish.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm interested on that part too. Yeah, coming up in
this halftime show and granted were talking too before the show,
is like, how many Isnora? I mean, certainly some of
the songs are going to be in Spanish, but it's
like the entire thing to be in Spanish.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it'll be interesting how much he sort of caters
it a little bit. It is American football.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I never heard of him up until that Corona beer
commercial with Snoop Dogg. That was maybe three or four
years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I listened to a little bit of his music after
the Grammys because I was watching with my daughter and
she knew who Bad Bunny was, and she's like, oh,
Bad Bunny's a really big deal. I was like, oh really, Okay.
I was like, wow, Gods, some great grooves. I mean,
as a musician, fellow musician, you appreciate good music doesn't
have to necessarily be my cup of tea, but I
like good music.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
A listener texted him, my girlfriend will watch five minutes
of football before she gets bored. When Bad Bunny was announced,
she was pumped. Yeah in Capitol last Yep, I believe
it too.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I will come back some interesting stats in this Eagles
Broncos matchup, and I tell you what, you might not
be far off on the Broncos having a great chance
in this game. We'll get to a next We are
optimist leaning people, right, yes, sir, and this game coming
up against the Eagles, And place a Madam schefter down
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here in a second, because he's talking about some of
the Eagles struggles that some of the stats we kind
of got into a little bit ruined the show. But
in a lot of ways when you when you looked
at this game in May, when the schedule came out,
I think a lot of people sort of picked the
Broncos to lose this game. Like if you went win loss,
win loss, like we all do. You got to Week
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five and you said, well, golly, on the road against
the defending champions, this is an l I didn't hear
a single person otherwise say, actually, I don't know Broncos
might be able to get that one. Not one person.
Did you hear anybody?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Not one person? Yeah, everybody had an l next to
that on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think at best people ahead of three and one
going into this game.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Sure, at best, Yeah, because there was going to be
hey that at the Chargers game, a lot of people thought, Okay,
it's probably gonna be a tough one to win. They
actually got really close. They in lot of way.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So I say this before we play on schefter and
could we talked about it just a moment ago in
the break. Where's the pressure of this game in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, that's one of the things I factored into my
optimistic comment earlier in the show. The pressure is off
the Broncos because nobody's expecting them to win that game,
and they had to win Monday night and win convincingly,
which they did.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
They had had a lot of pressure on that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
If they would have won seventeen thirteen, we'd be worried,
and for good reason. But they blew up the Bengals out,
I know, without Joe Burrow and dominated that game. I
think the pressure is on the Eagles rather than the Broncos.
Evils are undefeated, that's right at home. Even if four
and oh they're at home. They're supposed to win this game.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
They're supposed. I mean, so they're only favorite by three
and a half. Now was five and a half has
moved after the Broncos the way big move. That's two
points in the NFL. That's without a significant injury. It's
two points without an injury. Like it could be one
thing if you know something with Bonix or something with
Jalen Hurts. That's not the case. So the point of
it is notable, that's all. It's notable. But the pressure
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I agree with you, is on the Eagles who are
supposed to win this game against the Broncos, who are
two and two. Here's Adam Chef, you're talking about. The
Eagles starts the season.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sixty three players in the National FOOTBA League have more
receiving yards this season than aj Brown sixty three. Twenty
four quarterbacks have more passing yards this season than Jalen Hurts.
Twenty one players have more yards from scrimmage than Saquon Barkley.
Jalen Carter has yet to have a sack this season,
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and the Eagles in the course of the four games,
have been outgained out gained by three hundred and twenty
seven yards, which is the fourth worst margin in the
NFL being outgained. AJ Brown hasn't gotten on track. Jalen
Hurts hasn't thrown the ball particularly effectively. Saquon Barkley is
not running the ball particularly well. Jalen Carter still doesn't.
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And they're four and zero. They're unbeaten. They become very resourceful,
very patriot like, very chief like, very resilient, find a
way to win the game even though they're being outplayed,
whether it's blocking kicks or intercepting passes.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Or whatever it may be. But they become incredible.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Despite the fact that the team hasn't played incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Boonix has almost three hundred more passing yards than Jalen Hurts,
and Jalen Hurts is a rushing quarterback. Well, what if
I told you that R. J. Harvey is only forty
yards removed from Jalen hurts rushing total on the season
ten yards per game Harvey. RJ.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Harvey played sparingly, right, Yeah, ten.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yards per game JK Dobbs. The Broncos are fifth in
the league and ushing, which we're all very excited about
compared to the sixteenth and rushing for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Speaking of that, JK. Dobbins, who who predicted that Sunday
or Monday night?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I believe it was Nick Benito and JK. Dobbins right
for I just wanted to get some flowers. You needed it,
you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
In fact, I even went out of the limits that
he's gonna have one hundred yard game.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You did. Listen, prophetic barely describes it, barely scratches the
surface on what you did in that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Than you and you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You should pay attention to the pregame segment because Rick
basically picks this out. He says, these are my two
guys and they're going to directly impact this game. I
can't wait to hear what you have to stay on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, I'm doing my studying right now. Okay, Yeah, I'm sorry.
I had to point that out. I thought maybe you
would have, you know, said, hey, well, well maybe Sunday
you can point it out.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We've been we've been on a lot of topics today,
but we we haven't had a lot of Broncos Eagles breakdowns. No,
really so. And last thing you wanted to JK. Dobbins
has almost one hundred more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley.
It's truly remarkable.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I still can't believe that.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Corlan has done his two under sixty six receiving yards.
Devontae Smith is one fifty eight. AJ Brown's one fifty one.
Troy Franklin has won ninety six. He's got more than
both of them.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, both Smith and AJ Brown some bad body language, yes,
in that game. They're not getting the football. They're not
happy about it. AJ Brown in particular kind of criptic
on social media with some of his negativity. So I
think this is a good spot for the Denver Broncos
and no pressure on him this week. Nobody's expecting the
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Broncos to go into Philly and beat the undefeated Super
Bowl champs. Look at the injury report. Tight End Dallas
Goddard need did not participate today. He didn't play last
week at all. Jalen Carter, who's a beast in the
interior line, hurt his shoulder in that game and they
have him listed as limited today. And Dorri Jackson groin limited.
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Lane Johnson, they're right tackle They're already having problems in
run blocking, and it looks like he could be questionable.
I think by by the time we get to Sunday,
we'll know more tomorrow. But the further you look into this,
the more optimistic I think. You look at this game.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
If you stripped away the name, if you just didn't
say Philadelphia Eagles, and we were looking at just the numbers, right,
take take whatever name recognition of Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts,
those receivers, just the Eagle. If you just looked at
the numbers, you'd feel like the Broncos were actually the
better team with most of these numbers. Now, not all
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of them, because the Broncos, you know that they aren't
as good an internal margin time possession tilts towards the
Eagles because that's what they're good at. They're good at that.
But most of the numbers defensively for the Broncos, offensively,
even offensively for the Broncos are significantly better than what
the Eagles have done so far. That's where my optimism lies.
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It's like if I just take the name out of it.
But the problem is is the Eagles have this belief
and I like what Adams said there specifically talking about
the Chiefs and the Patriots, because those the teams that
come to mind that just found ways to win. The
Broncos were one of those teams when they had Manning here,
but the Chiefs last year won all those one score games.
Patriots of old who found a way to win games
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even when they didn't play their best. There's something about
those kinds of teams. They have a culture built around it.
And so for the Broncos to win this game, they're
going to have to rise above that. They're going to
not have to fall into the trap where they make
some kind of boneheaded mistake turnover and then collapse on
themselves because of it. Because that's how the Chiefs had
that what sixteen seventeen game winning streak against them is
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the Broncos played them tough. They played really tough in
several of those games you were calling them, but they
would find a way to stub their own toe and
you fell right into the trap and the Chiefs would
capitalize every time.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And the two games the Broncos lost both on the
road against two good football teams that are both three
and one right now. They lose on the last play
of the game. So there's reason to be optimistic. Yeah,
the Broncos are two and two. They lost those games.
They need to know learn how to close, learn how
to finish games. I got a little worried in the
Monday Night game when they came out in the second
half and looked flat offensively. You got to keep your
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foot on the gas pedal. And they ended up blowing
the Bengals out, totally dominating them, exactly what they needed
to do Monday Night to give them the confidence going
into Philly.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But maybe, and again one more little optimistic note here. Ready,
two losses and the way that they lost them and
didn't close, maybe that will help them in this game.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And you know what, I don't think the Broncos ever
lost any confidence in those two losses. You know, you're
around the team. I'm around the team, I travel with
the team. I did not sense that they were devastated
by that. And Garrett Bowles comes on the show and
tells you how confident this team is. I think it shows.
I think it shows that this team is resilient. They
know how good they are, and they think they can
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go into Philly and win the game.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Okay, one more optimistic point.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The Broncos defense only played forty three snaps on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Amazing offense played eighty.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Offense played eighty. But the point of it is it's
a short week and everybody's talking about, Well, it's short
week for the Broncos. They got to travel, defense played
half of a game.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
In a lot of ways, Broncos are healthy and getting healthier.
Malcolm Roach could be back on Sunday, too, big run stopper,
A lot of things to.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Be optimistic about. I love the way you look at it, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I appreciate you saying.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I tend not to criticize fellow drummers because they're all
better than me. But said said it said among good drummers,
he's not considered one of them. Oh my other you know,
really good world class drummers. They don't look at him
as a really good drummer. Okay, I mean, do you
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think I'm not I could never play drums.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I tried. At one point my drummer used to make
fun of me. He's like, how do you not have
rhythm when it comes to play? You do just find
playing guitar. But I cannot. I just couldn't get the
kick in the snare of the same.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, it's either you got it or you don't. With
drums like you can pick it up like I picked
it up real quick, but some just can never pick
it up.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But Yeah, regarding Lars.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
The the real drum critics, the really good drummers, they
just think he's okay, all right, that's not me talking,
That's that's what the critics say about him as a
rock drummer.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So he's saying, I never give credit where it's due.
I I didn't really try to. I mean, I certainly
make fun of Ben for a lot of his ridiculous takes.
I give you credit for your missus.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Well, I mean, look, I get the Rick hates Danish drummers.
It's probably Lars is a version to using the Riot
symbol and only using the China symbol on his kit.
He was an aggressive drummer early in his career, simplified.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
All of a sudden, you're a drum tech like.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Sometimes I know a little more.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Not let on, you're a fast learner.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yes, sure, I like this text. You all are too optimistic,
so it's time to bring on Benjamin Albright the Wet
Blanket conversation. Yeah, yeah, Rick and I are here like, oh,
you know, I can see him winning this game and
then being comes in like they're not going to win
this game. Guys, that means exactly. That wasn't exactly what
I said ninety eight percent.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But yeah, we just built him up for the last hour.
You shut it down pretty quick when you walked in here.
But that's okay. You know, you have educated opinion that
we all respect. It's just a little nagative respectative.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's all of that side of the table over there.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh what are you guy coming up on BCT Oh,
got a fun show.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
We're going to get into uh this w NBA thing
that's going on with their commissioner, uh and and that stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's that's really what we're gonna do in the Ape
Knobs kids. I know, I believe you. I we got
We were in the Hall of Fame conversation.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I think there was something brought up Tony Gonzalaz Richard
Sherman talking about how Russ has played his way out
of the Hall of Fame, which it might be the
dumbest thing I've ever heard. I mean, had a great
year last year actually when he you know, when he
got to play, So you know that that's weird to
me that people are saying Russ played his way out
of the hall.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You can't do that, You're not.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
He's a top fifteen old time passing yardage guy and oh,
by the way, he's got how many rushing.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yards on top of all that.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
I like, that's that's just silly people are People have
that bitter taste because it didn't work out here, all.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Right, So w NBA and soccer talk it up.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
That's yeah, those that we're gonna start the eight block
with WNB and soccer talk you hear that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Dave Tepper league too. Rick, This is always a blast, man.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I appreciate you man, it's always fun.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Thanks for having me, and we'll be listening to you
on the way home.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Ben. I hope you kind of perk up a little bit,
apologize for your ears and advance. Yeah, you perked up.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Come on, man, will let you bring the energy. Everybody
keeps fluttering whenever that's gonna happen. Great, great job is
always CT Next
Benny Fowler is gonna join us tomorrow in studio. Looking
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forward to that. All Right, so we're talking a little
bit about the overtime finish on Sunday Night Football. It
was a little anti climactic. Listen, I don't want to
go too hot takesh on this because a lot of
people don't. Nobody likes the ties like we like ties.
We watch soccer. That's really what it comes down to.
We'd all be soccer fans here in the United States.
We don't like ties. I don't know exactly what the
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fix is, but the one thing I will say that
that was kind of annoying for me is so the
Packers actually almost really messed this thing up, right, They
almost let the clock run out on that final play,
but then they have one second left for the Brandon
McManus tie, the field goal tied forty. All I was
wondering in that moment, you're Matt Lafleur and yet one
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second left. We've seen coaches, maybe even almost recklessly just
say you know what, we're going for the win. We're
not going for a tie. We'd rather be lose. We'd
rather lose this game then, except that we're kicking the
field goal for the tie. I was actually more surprised
by that decision with one second left, accepting a tie,
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and maybe that's just a read of your team, a
read of the sideline or read of the moment, and
you feel, gosh, we played so hard. It would really
suck to come out of this thing with a loss,
after everything has been said and done, after everything that
happened in transpired tonight. It would really suck to fly
home to Green Bay with an l. But what would
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have been meant to win in Dallas on a last
second play like that. That to that was the bigger
surprise for me, is that they kicked the field goal
with one second left, because I've seen plenty of coaches
where even that's to their own detriment, say we're not
playing for a tie. We're going to play for a
win because that's what we're supposed to do in the NFL.
So it's a little surprised by that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What about you, Yeah, you see that a lot, as
you said, where coaches will go for two yeah, right,
instead of kicking an extra point to tie the game up.
You see it in college as well. I saw that
in the game this weekend. In college. I think it
was the Georgia Tech get right, I believe that's how
it ended. Yeah, I think the Packers probably looked at
it like a tie could benefit them. Maybe they're going
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to be a playoff team, it looks like, and a
tie would look better than a loss in the long run.
I'm guessing maybe that's why they took that route.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So if that's obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The safer play and it could work out for them
when you get down to the end of the season
and it's all bunched up there at the top, you
take away a loss from them.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Other than going to college rules for overtime, I don't
know how else you fix this.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
How about like a shootout in hockey.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
The field goal kickers.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Either field goal kickers or maybe this would be kind
of fun, actually, each team gets one play from the
twenty five yard line to trotey hit a twenty five
yard touchdown pass or touchdown any way. You could score
one play at a time, back and forth, back and forth,
back and forth. Somebody's gonna hit one up to a point.
I mean, you couldn't do that all night, right, But
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I do like to shootout in hockey a lot. That's exciting.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I like what hockey did. You're right trying to
find a parallel right, because they went to a three
man over time. Yeah, right, where it's sudden death three on.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Three, three on three, So how about you take out
a two defensive backs of ot M.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The thing is is you don't want to go too
far away from what the sport is hockey. It was
it's very good, right, three on three overtime. Hockey's sensational,
it's very exciting, but it is it is not traditional,
and of course in the postseason they don't do it.
They go five on five. So I hesitate to get
too far away from what you are because there are
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teams that have strengths and deficiencies at different points. Like
Ben's suggestion he tweeted it out, was you'd go kicker
style right field goal kickers and you keep moving back
five yards. It's like, well, that's great if you have
one of the best kickers in the league. If you've
got the kicker for the Cowboys, he he is a
break he's phenomenal. I would be. I would bet Brendan
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Aubrey's gonna win that thing every single time. I can
take it from seventy yards out.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, and I thought kickers too. And I'm just a
bitballing here, but for me, I'd rather have an every
down player yeah, me too, win the game for you
rather than the kicker come on on the kick in
a field.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Goal exactly like if you have Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Or do you like right?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So that's why I was thinking, maybe you know you
you pass or whatever from the fifteen yard line.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Two shots at it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The point of it is, and this is why the
NFL and the NFL is fine with us talking about
it positively or negatively, because they're talking. We're talking about it.
So Roger Goodell, people were like, he's got to fetch this,
and it's like, I don't think he cares. Like either way.
We're talking about the NFL, but we as fans would
like more resolved. Something problem is is under health and safety,
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which is what the NFL always leans back on. They're
never going to go to double overtime. We're never going
to go to do any more than what we're doing.
The fact that they've come as far as they have
to allow both teams to at least possess it once,
which actually I didn't know if that would ever happen
because they really did like the sudden death nature of it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Hey you score. That was never fair.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, it wasn't fair because we now and live in
the world where offenses rule the NFL, and if you
have an elite offense or elite quarterback and they touch
the ball first, like they just win the coin toss.
We saw so many times with the Chiefs just walk
off win games because nobody was stopping that offense for
years and it didn't feel fair, especially in the postseason.
And they fixed it initially the postseason. Now it's the
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regular season too, but that's just this year. This is
the first year where both teams get a chance to
possess it regardless. So it's come a long way. But yeah,
I think we're gonna continue to see moments like this
because they don't they don't have a solution unless they go,
in my opinion, to college style overtime. That's about the
only solution in my opinion, that keeps it football. You're
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still playing football from the twenty five right year or
biggest a chance and then we actually will have finality
because by you get to double overtime, then you have
to go for two, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
This is kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
From the three to zero three at the first overtime
two point conversion attempts, each team guaranteed one try, and
you go until one team makes it stops the other team.
That play would be very exciting. Yeah, so you could run,
you could pass. Uh, you just can't kick a field
goal from there. It has to be a regular play.
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I think that would be pretty exciting, way more exciting
than a tie football game. And I do think the
NFL should address that. It's just nobody likes to tie.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Really.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
See, you know, the Packers tie it on the last
second field goal, and they weren't even happy.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
They weren't happy about it. And somebody says here, well,
it makes no sense to take a five percent chance,
whatever the odds were, to score a touchdown, that you
just take the go ahead tie and throw uh yeah,
go ahead time and throw away the tie. And I
understand your point, and then yeah, you it would be
second second guest kind of either way, Right, you're Brendan mcmanuson,
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I mean, so you're Matt lafleoor. You send Brendan McManus
out there for the tie you know, people are gonna
be like, you could have gone for the win, you
had one second left, you had you had to play
what's your best play? But then yeah, you go the
other side of that and it's like yeah, and then
we lose this game, and everybody's gonna be like, dude,
that mathematically would have made sense to you at the
end of the season, that that half point matters.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, it will matter to the Packers. I believe it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I just had a flashback to the the Broncos
Bengals game last year. Oh yeah, when Sean Payton played
for the tie, the.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
The tie mattered, and it wanted to go for two.
But then was it uh an injury or something. Was
there some kind of timeout I can't remember, if they
laid and then they talked themselves out of going for two. Yes,
And then oh no, it was they had a confirment.
They had to confirm Marvin Mims, and the confirmation took
an extra beat, and in that process he was reminded
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of or otherwise a tie gets us in. And so
then it became gosh, can we play for a tie
in overtime or at least give it ourselves the option
of that because then if you go for two and
you don't get it, that's again something that gets second guessed, like, hey, coach,
you went for two there at the end. You had
a lot of momentum. I always feel like if you're
the road team, you be more aggressive in those kinds
of moments, Like that's my opinion. Like if you're the
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home team, if you're the home team, take the tie,
go to overtime, you feel like you're gonna have the crowd.
There's a little extra juice there. But if you're the
away team and you're in position to close it out,
you go.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, there's something to that. Also a factor in momentum.
If you have all the momentum going into that final
play and you kick a field goal to go into
overtime knowing you got mo on your side. I get
that too. It seems like that would work up, especially
at home. It's certainly a factor.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
There's one pure hockey fans hate the shootout. I understand that.
That's kind of my point of why I said, if
you get too far away from what the game is,
then you get the purists that aren't gonna like it,
and I do. No hockey fans hate shootout, and then
probably most of them hate the three on three though
I think three on three overtime hockey is pretty awesome.
It is wide open fun, but it's way different than
five on five obviously.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And I get pure hockey fans hating the shoot up,
but how about just regular fans, casual hockey fans.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, I think they probably love it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And I think the NHL should be looking to bring
in new fans to hockey, not your's, your hockey purists.
That's a really niche sport.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
When you look at hockey ratings compared to football ratings,
no comparison.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
In the United States, Canada.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So the NHL, I guess they're yeah, Canada, the NHL
maybe could look at it like, how do we bring
in new people to watch hockey?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And although although if you ask die hard hockey fans,
they don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They don't they don't care.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We don't watch you.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, we don't want the fans.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, there's a lot of controversy this week because
Bad Bunny is going to be the Super Bowl halftime performer. Yeah,
And I announced it on my morning show yesterday, and
people like, who he Bad Bunny? What what is the
NFL thinking. They're just blowing off all of their you know,
their fan base. The NFL is thinking big picture.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They are.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
They're trying to bring in new NFL fans and so
that's they do that better than anybody they're thinking globally.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah they are. That's that's what this move is.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They know you're gonna watch, yes, they so they're taking
you for granted. Yeah, I understand that. But you bring
in these these halftime performers we've seen recently recently, they're
trying to attract a whole new fan base and they're
pretty damn good at it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And he's a massive draw. Like whatever you say, I mean,
maybe you even still haven't heard any music or heard
of Bad Bunny and I am.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Couldn't name one Bad Bunny, but I know who he is.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I know who he is. You know the Grammys. If
you watch the Grammys, he cleans up like he does
really well there. He's one of the top streaming artists
in the world. Any nice. I mean, he's popular in
the United States too. It's just again, it may not
be your kind of music, but that's what you gotta do.
You gotta think about the forty chess of this, which
is the NFL is continuing to try to build this globally.
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There's a reason why Roger Goodell said the other day
he wants sixteen international games every year, like that's the goal.
They want every team to play internationally once every year.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
They know what they're doing and like Taylor Swift. They
get a lot of blowback on Taylor Swift, but she
brought in a bunch of young eemails, yes, thirteen to eighteen,
thirteen to twenty one year old women. The ratings went
through the roof because of her and the die hard
hardcore football fans they're not happy about it, but the
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NFL knows, hey, you're going to watch anyway. We're trying
to bring these girls and you bring these young girls
to the party now, and you're really building that brand
and nobody does it better than them.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Nobody does it better. And the results are what the
results are. They keep growing because like you said, the
fans that are fans now will stay fans because the
product is unmatched. There isn't there isn't anything else. And
we of course around the NFL, we worked with with
the Broncos, but there isn't any other product that is
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more dramatic or more interesting than the NFL. The product
does not miss. I mean, we just played a bunch
of highlights, and all of those games had dramatic moments.
The Broncos Bengals game was probably the least dramatic game
of the entire weekend. It's pretty rare. It's pretty rare
to have a situation where, and especially in a primetime
game where you go to the fourth quarter and that
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thing is is sewn up. Maybe the Lions game with
the Browns, but even then there was there were some weird,
quirky moments in that game too. There is a lot
of excitement in that game. The Browns defense sectually pretty good.
It just it just ended up their offense them down
and you know, is sort of what it is. It
kind of escalated. But most games are down to the wire.
Most games are fourth quarter late if you're progressing. You
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know that because we've lost two of them like that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, most of them are one score games, and the
NFL loves that. Yeah, the parody and don't hold me
to this, but I believe the top one hundred rated
TV shows of the year ninety five are NFL games. Yeah,
you know, it's that dramatic ninety five maybe even more
of the top one hundred. The NFL is the king
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of media. There's nobody even close. Nobody can compare. And
could you could put together the National Hockey League Game
seven Stanley Cup game ratings with the NBA Game seven,
Championship game, World Series Game seven, they wouldn't add up
to the most popular NFL game or most watching NFL.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Regular regular season game of the year.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Now the Super Bowl is a whole different story. They
got one hundred and twenty million people watching now.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
So that's the answer to the people that have been
grousing about it, and I have seen it in the ends. Yeah,
would Metallica be fun, Sure, we'd all we'd be amped
about as you work on the Fox in a classic
rock I mean, there would be artists out there that
they could do that. But that doesn't grow you. You
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are going to satisfy that fan base. And it's not
to say that they completely don't want that fan base
to care. They do. It's a great product anyways, you're
already buying. What they want to do is to sort
of build this thing into the future, and I think
it's probably smart money. And smart business in the end,
and people will push back on it. But that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And when it comes to the halftime show, lately, they've
been bringing in acts from that region or that city,
and so bad Bunny, I think would make sense super
Bowl in Miami. Yeah, now in the Bay Area Metallica, Yeah,
the Bay Area connects right with Metallica. I was a
little surprised. I thought this might be the year they
go back to a rock band, and Metallica is huge.
(14:58):
They sold out two shows here that empower Field. I
thought this would be the year they kind of go
back a little bit, but nope, they went.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Bad Bunny this one.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
On the text line, let's talk about the artists that
turned down the NFL Super Bowl and why well, I mean,
I don't know the list of artists that have turned down,
but they don't get paid to do this, so I
don't And the pressure I imagine, and I don't know
this for every artist that says yes or no or whatever,
the pressure to be I mean, the scrutiny of the
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halftime show is probably different than anything else you will
ever experience because it is that kind of audience. So
I mean, we come in on a Monday after a
Super Bowl Sunday, and the game is important, but it's
not important to everybody because the commercials, the halftime show,
the presentation of the Super Bowl is a big deal.
It's it's significant, huge, and that's that's the water cooler,
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that's on sports talk radio, that is everywhere. So I
don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that you wouldn't
want that opportunity. And then of course all the streaming
and stuff that's gonna come with it and being on
the lips of everybody around the world. But boy, you know,
you put on a bad halftime show, and we've seen
a few.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We have, it can hurt you.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It can kind of hurt you. There's a risk reward
and if you're not even paid.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Anyways, yeah, yeah, a lot of people don't realize they're
not paid. Yeah, And it's a massive production, massive exposure.
You know that Roger Gooden would have loved to have
Taylor Swift play the halftime, yes, which is a little
risky for her because what if the Chiefs were in
the game, that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
There's rumors that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
She was asked and turned it down and turned it down, Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And I could.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I could understand that from her, and she doesn't need
the exposure either. But Bad Bunny, he's he's big here,
but he's really big, you know, not only Puerto Rico,
but South America. You know, in the Spanish speaking country.
All of the songs are in Spanish.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm interested on that part too. Yeah, coming up in
this halftime show and granted were talking too before the show,
is like, how many Isnora? I mean, certainly some of
the songs are going to be in Spanish, but it's
like the entire thing to be in Spanish.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, it'll be interesting how much he sort of caters
it a little bit. It is American football.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I never heard of him up until that Corona beer
commercial with Snoop Dogg. That was maybe three or four
years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I listened to a little bit of his music after
the Grammys because I was watching with my daughter and
she knew who Bad Bunny was, and she's like, oh,
Bad Bunny's a really big deal. I was like, oh really, Okay.
I was like, wow, Gods, some great grooves. I mean,
as a musician, fellow musician, you appreciate good music doesn't
have to necessarily be my cup of tea, but I
like good music.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
A listener texted him, my girlfriend will watch five minutes
of football before she gets bored. When Bad Bunny was announced,
she was pumped. Yeah in Capitol last Yep, I believe
it too.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I will come back some interesting stats in this Eagles
Broncos matchup, and I tell you what, you might not
be far off on the Broncos having a great chance
in this game. We'll get to a next We are
optimist leaning people, right, yes, sir, and this game coming
up against the Eagles, And place a Madam schefter down
(18:09):
here in a second, because he's talking about some of
the Eagles struggles that some of the stats we kind
of got into a little bit ruined the show. But
in a lot of ways when you when you looked
at this game in May, when the schedule came out,
I think a lot of people sort of picked the
Broncos to lose this game. Like if you went win loss,
win loss, like we all do. You got to Week
(18:29):
five and you said, well, golly, on the road against
the defending champions, this is an l I didn't hear
a single person otherwise say, actually, I don't know Broncos
might be able to get that one. Not one person.
Did you hear anybody?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Not one person? Yeah, everybody had an l next to
that on the schedule.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think at best people ahead of three and one
going into this game.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Sure, at best, Yeah, because there was going to be
hey that at the Chargers game, a lot of people thought, Okay,
it's probably gonna be a tough one to win. They
actually got really close. They in lot of way.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So I say this before we play on schefter and
could we talked about it just a moment ago in
the break. Where's the pressure of this game in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, that's one of the things I factored into my
optimistic comment earlier in the show. The pressure is off
the Broncos because nobody's expecting them to win that game,
and they had to win Monday night and win convincingly,
which they did.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
They had had a lot of pressure on that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
If they would have won seventeen thirteen, we'd be worried,
and for good reason. But they blew up the Bengals out,
I know, without Joe Burrow and dominated that game. I
think the pressure is on the Eagles rather than the Broncos.
Evils are undefeated, that's right at home. Even if four
and oh they're at home. They're supposed to win this game.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
They're supposed. I mean, so they're only favorite by three
and a half. Now was five and a half has
moved after the Broncos the way big move. That's two
points in the NFL. That's without a significant injury. It's
two points without an injury. Like it could be one
thing if you know something with Bonix or something with
Jalen Hurts. That's not the case. So the point of
it is notable, that's all. It's notable. But the pressure
(20:19):
I agree with you, is on the Eagles who are
supposed to win this game against the Broncos, who are
two and two. Here's Adam Chef, you're talking about. The
Eagles starts the season.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Sixty three players in the National FOOTBA League have more
receiving yards this season than aj Brown sixty three. Twenty
four quarterbacks have more passing yards this season than Jalen Hurts.
Twenty one players have more yards from scrimmage than Saquon Barkley.
Jalen Carter has yet to have a sack this season,
(20:48):
and the Eagles in the course of the four games,
have been outgained out gained by three hundred and twenty
seven yards, which is the fourth worst margin in the
NFL being outgained. AJ Brown hasn't gotten on track. Jalen
Hurts hasn't thrown the ball particularly effectively. Saquon Barkley is
not running the ball particularly well. Jalen Carter still doesn't.
(21:10):
And they're four and zero. They're unbeaten. They become very resourceful,
very patriot like, very chief like, very resilient, find a
way to win the game even though they're being outplayed,
whether it's blocking kicks or intercepting passes.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Or whatever it may be. But they become incredible.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Despite the fact that the team hasn't played incredible.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Boonix has almost three hundred more passing yards than Jalen Hurts,
and Jalen Hurts is a rushing quarterback. Well, what if
I told you that R. J. Harvey is only forty
yards removed from Jalen hurts rushing total on the season
ten yards per game Harvey. RJ.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Harvey played sparingly, right, Yeah, ten.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yards per game JK Dobbs. The Broncos are fifth in
the league and ushing, which we're all very excited about
compared to the sixteenth and rushing for the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Speaking of that, JK. Dobbins, who who predicted that Sunday
or Monday night?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I believe it was Nick Benito and JK. Dobbins right
for I just wanted to get some flowers. You needed it,
you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
In fact, I even went out of the limits that
he's gonna have one hundred yard game.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You did. Listen, prophetic barely describes it, barely scratches the
surface on what you did in that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Than you and you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You should pay attention to the pregame segment because Rick
basically picks this out. He says, these are my two
guys and they're going to directly impact this game. I
can't wait to hear what you have to stay on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, I'm doing my studying right now. Okay, Yeah, I'm sorry.
I had to point that out. I thought maybe you
would have, you know, said, hey, well, well maybe Sunday
you can point it out.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
We've been we've been on a lot of topics today,
but we we haven't had a lot of Broncos Eagles breakdowns. No,
really so. And last thing you wanted to JK. Dobbins
has almost one hundred more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley.
It's truly remarkable.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I still can't believe that.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Corlan has done his two under sixty six receiving yards.
Devontae Smith is one fifty eight. AJ Brown's one fifty one.
Troy Franklin has won ninety six. He's got more than
both of them.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, both Smith and AJ Brown some bad body language, yes,
in that game. They're not getting the football. They're not
happy about it. AJ Brown in particular kind of criptic
on social media with some of his negativity. So I
think this is a good spot for the Denver Broncos
and no pressure on him this week. Nobody's expecting the
(23:38):
Broncos to go into Philly and beat the undefeated Super
Bowl champs. Look at the injury report. Tight End Dallas
Goddard need did not participate today. He didn't play last
week at all. Jalen Carter, who's a beast in the
interior line, hurt his shoulder in that game and they
have him listed as limited today. And Dorri Jackson groin limited.
(24:02):
Lane Johnson, they're right tackle They're already having problems in
run blocking, and it looks like he could be questionable.
I think by by the time we get to Sunday,
we'll know more tomorrow. But the further you look into this,
the more optimistic I think. You look at this game.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
If you stripped away the name, if you just didn't
say Philadelphia Eagles, and we were looking at just the numbers, right,
take take whatever name recognition of Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts,
those receivers, just the Eagle. If you just looked at
the numbers, you'd feel like the Broncos were actually the
better team with most of these numbers. Now, not all
(24:42):
of them, because the Broncos, you know that they aren't
as good an internal margin time possession tilts towards the
Eagles because that's what they're good at. They're good at that.
But most of the numbers defensively for the Broncos, offensively,
even offensively for the Broncos are significantly better than what
the Eagles have done so far. That's where my optimism lies.
(25:03):
It's like if I just take the name out of it.
But the problem is is the Eagles have this belief
and I like what Adams said there specifically talking about
the Chiefs and the Patriots, because those the teams that
come to mind that just found ways to win. The
Broncos were one of those teams when they had Manning here,
but the Chiefs last year won all those one score games.
Patriots of old who found a way to win games
(25:25):
even when they didn't play their best. There's something about
those kinds of teams. They have a culture built around it.
And so for the Broncos to win this game, they're
going to have to rise above that. They're going to
not have to fall into the trap where they make
some kind of boneheaded mistake turnover and then collapse on
themselves because of it. Because that's how the Chiefs had
that what sixteen seventeen game winning streak against them is
(25:46):
the Broncos played them tough. They played really tough in
several of those games you were calling them, but they
would find a way to stub their own toe and
you fell right into the trap and the Chiefs would
capitalize every time.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And the two games the Broncos lost both on the
road against two good football teams that are both three
and one right now. They lose on the last play
of the game. So there's reason to be optimistic. Yeah,
the Broncos are two and two. They lost those games.
They need to know learn how to close, learn how
to finish games. I got a little worried in the
Monday Night game when they came out in the second
half and looked flat offensively. You got to keep your
(26:22):
foot on the gas pedal. And they ended up blowing
the Bengals out, totally dominating them, exactly what they needed
to do Monday Night to give them the confidence going
into Philly.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But maybe, and again one more little optimistic note here. Ready,
two losses and the way that they lost them and
didn't close, maybe that will help them in this game.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And you know what, I don't think the Broncos ever
lost any confidence in those two losses. You know, you're
around the team. I'm around the team, I travel with
the team. I did not sense that they were devastated
by that. And Garrett Bowles comes on the show and
tells you how confident this team is. I think it shows.
I think it shows that this team is resilient. They
know how good they are, and they think they can
(27:06):
go into Philly and win the game.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Okay, one more optimistic point.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The Broncos defense only played forty three snaps on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Amazing offense played eighty.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Offense played eighty. But the point of it is it's
a short week and everybody's talking about, Well, it's short
week for the Broncos. They got to travel, defense played
half of a game.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
In a lot of ways, Broncos are healthy and getting healthier.
Malcolm Roach could be back on Sunday, too, big run stopper,
A lot of things to.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Be optimistic about. I love the way you look at it, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I appreciate you saying.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I tend not to criticize fellow drummers because they're all
better than me. But said said it said among good drummers,
he's not considered one of them. Oh my other you know,
really good world class drummers. They don't look at him
as a really good drummer. Okay, I mean, do you
(28:02):
think I'm not I could never play drums.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I tried. At one point my drummer used to make
fun of me. He's like, how do you not have
rhythm when it comes to play? You do just find
playing guitar. But I cannot. I just couldn't get the
kick in the snare of the same.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, it's either you got it or you don't. With
drums like you can pick it up like I picked
it up real quick, but some just can never pick
it up.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But Yeah, regarding Lars.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
The the real drum critics, the really good drummers, they
just think he's okay, all right, that's not me talking,
That's that's what the critics say about him as a
rock drummer.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So he's saying, I never give credit where it's due.
I I didn't really try to. I mean, I certainly
make fun of Ben for a lot of his ridiculous takes.
I give you credit for your missus.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Well, I mean, look, I get the Rick hates Danish drummers.
It's probably Lars is a version to using the Riot
symbol and only using the China symbol on his kit.
He was an aggressive drummer early in his career, simplified.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
All of a sudden, you're a drum tech like.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Sometimes I know a little more.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Not let on, you're a fast learner.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yes, sure, I like this text. You all are too optimistic,
so it's time to bring on Benjamin Albright the Wet
Blanket conversation. Yeah, yeah, Rick and I are here like, oh,
you know, I can see him winning this game and
then being comes in like they're not going to win
this game. Guys, that means exactly. That wasn't exactly what
I said ninety eight percent.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But yeah, we just built him up for the last hour.
You shut it down pretty quick when you walked in here.
But that's okay. You know, you have educated opinion that
we all respect. It's just a little nagative respectative.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
That's all of that side of the table over there.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh what are you guy coming up on BCT Oh,
got a fun show.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
We're going to get into uh this w NBA thing
that's going on with their commissioner, uh and and that stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's that's really what we're gonna do in the Ape
Knobs kids. I know, I believe you. I we got
We were in the Hall of Fame conversation.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
I think there was something brought up Tony Gonzalaz Richard
Sherman talking about how Russ has played his way out
of the Hall of Fame, which it might be the
dumbest thing I've ever heard. I mean, had a great
year last year actually when he you know, when he
got to play, So you know that that's weird to
me that people are saying Russ played his way out
of the hall.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You can't do that, You're not.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
He's a top fifteen old time passing yardage guy and oh,
by the way, he's got how many rushing.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yards on top of all that.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
I like, that's that's just silly people are People have
that bitter taste because it didn't work out here, all.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Right, So w NBA and soccer talk it up.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
That's yeah, those that we're gonna start the eight block
with WNB and soccer talk you hear that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Dave Tepper league too. Rick, This is always a blast, man.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I appreciate you man, it's always fun.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Thanks for having me, and we'll be listening to you
on the way home.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Ben. I hope you kind of perk up a little bit,
apologize for your ears and advance. Yeah, you perked up.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Come on, man, will let you bring the energy. Everybody
keeps fluttering whenever that's gonna happen. Great, great job is
always CT Next
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