10-02-25 KOA Sports Hour 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mandy forgot her phone, so she came rolling in, came.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
In with sunglasses on, looking like she's been driving down
the four h five in Los Angeles in a convertible.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
That's exactly what I was like, your show's done, you
have three hours.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, she loves this place, so she hangs around a
little bit, just a case, just a case that we
came in. As soon as our shifts are done, we
are sprinting towards the front door.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm just saying, you know, and you didn't know I
could move that fast. I know what you said.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
You do have a little more athletic ability than I
have given you credit for.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I will. That's up to that.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Let's save that grant.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I might need this as my ring tone down the road,
just you know, a rainy day. Just listen to Dave saying,
you know, you do have some more athletic ability that I.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Said a little more and I gave you credit for.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You know, but I notice you're a pretty good mood
because the Yankees won last night. I imagine that was
that a game? Oh my gosh, what a game? What game?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
And by the way I thought of you, well, say,
I've about texted you, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Knew how we talked about it. Today.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You were grousing a bit about Jazz Chisholm not being
in the lineup the first game, and then guess who's
like the star of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Right, I mean, how how do you not play that guy?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Tremendous?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It gets it gets down. It's a little bit like
the NFL at times I think they get. I think
analytics are important. I think you you need to have
sort of a basis b a sis basis on on
what you have in front of you and what's the
likelihood of something happening. And I do believe in analytics

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to a certain extent. But I also believe you know
in whether it's whether you're the skipper of a Major
League Baseball team in the playoffs or you're you're an
NFL head coach. From time to time, it's it's you
having called the game, seen the game, and you just
have a gut feel for what you should call at

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this particular time. And I think you have to go
with your gut more so in case like that, rather
than somebody saying, hey, the numbers say we've got to
do this.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Here he's a tremendous player.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
He's been a tremendous player even with Miami, and they
made little sense to me. But it was nice to
see not only him but also been Rice Yes, who
was not playing in Game one.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
He had a home run last night, so I thought
of you last night.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I was like, you know, this is why. And I
do like this new setup. We'll get to the Broncos
here in a second. We actually have Riley Moss joining
us any minute now. But I do like this new setup.
I don't know how you feel about it. But the
three game wild Card series versus the one off, I
mean the one off was fun. There were some games
in those one off, yeah, that were just unbelievable because

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you knew this is it. I mean, you played one
hundred and sixty two for this one flipping game. I agree,
But now with this is more like baseball, right any
a series and they don't travel. You know, you got
we're watching the Cleveland Detroit game right now. You're not
traveling to Cleveland. You're doing three games into or well,
you're doing three games in Cleveland. You're not traveling to Detroit.
So you're doing three games here like you would do

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a series and the winner advances.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
To go face Seattle. I love it. I absolutely love it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I do too, Yeah, I do too, And I think
it's a lot better than than the one the one game.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
So how are you feeling about tonight? Yeah, Cam Schlittler
on the mound.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I had from the famous Schlitzler family.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I was like, do not speed up that name.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
He took a lot of grief as he did.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
You know that, girls like, can I switch my lat
for anything? Can I be Jones?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Cam? I mean, I'm rolling with the Yankees, but that's
because I grew up a Yankees fan right back in
the Mickey Mantle days for kind of loud. So yeah,
I think it's gonna be fun. I just like I
like the I love baseball generally speaking, and I really

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enjoy at this time of year when there's so much
at stake, right, I mean, every game, the crowds into,
the players are into it. It's just a lot of
fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I guess Aaron Jones I saw or sorry, Aaron Judge
has a streak in clutch games, closed out games. He's
got like four home runs in the last seven or
something like that. So there's a there's some some extra.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's not been great. I've been great in postseason action.
And this is a guy that has been a dominant,
obviously dominant player for a while.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Fifty three homers this year, yeah, again, so look forward
to that. We got a couple of games on tap,
all elimination games, Tigers and Guardians. Right now, we're in
the top of the seventh Tigers lean at one three o'clock.
I guess this is three o'clock on here, so I'm guessing.
Any Oh, it just started there you go. Padrew's Cubs
just started, and then Yankees Red Sox I six.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
All these series go the distance except for the Dodgers
and the Reds.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
For the Dodgers are pretty good.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, And honestly, that one started out Reds plus two
at the very beginning of the Oscar Hernandez error.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
But then, well, the Dodgers are who they are.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And I don't think any many people thought that the
Reds would really contend.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Taking the Dodgers to win this thing. Don't do that,
because they're not gonna win it.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, who's gonna win it.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I'll take the field, Okay, you can take the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
See, but this is a miserable spot to be in
because I hate the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I can't stand the Dodgers. Well you don't have you
don't have to love them to pick them. Are you
saying they're gonna be they're gonna win the World Series?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
That would be who I picked? Yeah, Well, are they
the favorite to win?

Speaker 2 (05:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'll bet I'll bet, I'll bet they're up they're up there.
See you know what they got to be up there.
I don't take the field. Do you take the Dodgers?
All right? Fine?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
But even the bragging rights on that are gonna feel
so lame.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, like you take an Oak City that's right when
they were a prohibited favorite exactly, the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, It's it's like every year like say, hey, I
think the Chiefs could be good this year. I think
they can make the Super Bowl. Yeah, you're like, oh yeah, really,
all right, I'll take the field. And it's that I
got a root for the Chiefs. It's miserable. Anyways, we're
gonna be checking in with Riley Moss here in just
a matter of moments.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yesterday I did.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Get a chance to ask you about the Shador Sanders
mining thing.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That happened in the locker room, did you imagine. Yeah, yeah,
I was everywhere.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I didn't love it, you know, I think that I
just don't think he needs to sort of come across
that way and then hear what some will say about
whether it's immature or whatever. I mean, I would guess

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he's frustrated sort of with the way things have gone.
I get that. I get that, But if if I
were advising him, I would have advised him not to
do that. If if they continue to ask questions, I mean,
he'd be the only essence third quarterback that would be

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asked questions during the course of the year, and I
think you just have to sort of limit the access
and say something like, hey, fellas, listen, I'm right now,
I'm running third, all right. I don't really have anything
to say, and you guys, honestly, you shouldn't have anything
to ask me. And if it changes, I'm happy to
stand here and talk to you.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's the end of that.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yes, instead of you know that yesterday, NFL teams, I
can just tell you NFL teams and anybody who's ever
played in the league I think would agree with this.
They don't want to have anything.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That they have to deal with other than football.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
They found a way to sort of deal with injuries
just saying I'm not talking about injuries, right. They want
to control the narrative and they don't want anything like
that has sort of a circus atmosphere. They just they
just don't. So I don't I would have done that,
but you know that's me.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
But I completely look, I completely agree with you. I
told I told Rick yesterday, it's so rare to see
a third string quarterback interviewed. I'd like, we wouldn't go
into the locker room to ask Sam Ellinger what he
thinks about the matchup or anything that's happening with the team. Like,
that's not offense to Sam Ellinger. It's just not how
it's done now. In fairness, Shador is a little more

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famous than most third string quarterbacks, oh a.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Lot more so, which is part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Which is part of the problem and part of why
some teams may not want a third string quarterback. It's
kind of the Tim Tebow effect, and obviously for different reasons,
but there was a reason why we always had these
discussions about Tim Tebow and like what team is he
going to fit on? Because no team wants their backup,
if or third string quarterback.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
To be the story.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It was also part of the reason that if Peyton
Manny was going to come here, Tim Tebow was not
going to be. I mean, it just made complete sense.
You just don't want I have to deal with what
I call that circus all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And there were so many fans were upset about it.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
But they're also upset because like Peyton man can come
here and work with him and then train him.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
To be a caution like that was never gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
But it was never going to happen.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Not even for a second.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I did a little bit of sympathy, but it's the
position that he's in as a GM. But I remember
when John Elway got asked as a GM at the
moment right after the season. Of course, you had that
magical game against the Steelers, the ending against the Patriots,
and then John Elway and the press conference following the
season is asked, hey, so you Tim Tebow, you know,
I mean, it's going to relate, and of course he's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
He'll be back.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, what are you supposed to say in that moment,
because you're not going to be like, yeah, We're doing
everything we can to get this guy out of here.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, I mean there are certain times that you're not
going to be able to be completely forthright with reporters
when they ask a question if there's something that is
in the pipeline, and there obviously was in that case,
I would say this about dealing Gabriel. I've sort of
chuckled at the narrative about Dylan Gabriel, like, I'm not

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sure what's going to happen, but I will tell you this,
there are people within the Cleveland Browns organization that really
like Dylan Gabriel. I think Dylan Gabriel is gonna be
a good enough player that they can win with as
a starting quarterback. Now you can take you know, you

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can disagree. I mean, people can disagree, but I'm just
telling you what I know to be true and we'll
see how this whole thing plays out.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, let me ask you something on that. And I
don't disagree that there are people that believe in him.
Why was he not starting at the beginning of the year.
Then if you truly was that guy, Because it's not
like you're going to Joe Flacco thinking, hey, we're resurrecting
Joe Flackel I can Greer.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I think they felt like Joe Flacco gave him a
better chance to win at this point, right, I mean,
Gabriel is limited physically. He's not very big, he doesn't
have a great arm. He's an okay athlete. But there
have been people, and this is almost sacrilegious in Cleveland,
there have been people that have compared his skill set

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to Brian Sipe, a guy that I played quarterback with,
and a guy that was six feet tall and one
eighty five and not a great athlete and didn't have
a huge arm and was a late late draft choice
and was on the I think the taxi squad the
first couple of years. But you know Blank and I,

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and he winds up being the MVP of the league
in nineteen eighty. So I'm not saying that I believe
that because I've not seen enough of Dylan Gabriel. I've
seen all of his college stuff, but I'm just telling
you I don't know that. You know, the Shadoor fans
are saying, well, two or three weeks from now, they
will have lost every game and Dylan Gabriel will have
played himself completely out of the league. I don't know.

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I don't know that that's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I don't know that's gonna happen either. And besides, it's
no guarantee that they go to Shadoor. Anyways, at that point,
they may go back to Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I think they there's no.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Guarantee if they if they know it's not a guarantee,
but if they lose every game, yeah, I think they.
I think at that point, I think you probably have
to go to Shador because Joe Flacco has clearly proven that.
I mean, the train has left the station. He's three
years old and four Wait are you sure about that?

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I mean, good lord, I mean he just I mean
it's time. It's just time. And so what you're gonna
have to find out if if this thing goes worse
than it has, then you're gonna have to find out
about what you have in Shador. I think because you
you you got to determine whether you're in the market

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for one of these quarterbacks. Like because the Browns, if
they lose as many as we think they're going to lose,
they're going to have one of the top two or
three picks.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
And they have two firsts this year because of the trade.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So they got four games before their bye week.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Okay, so they're playing Minnesota in London on Sunday, then
they're at Pittsburgh. Now only gonna get it's easier there
versus Miami. That might be an opportunity to get a win.
And then at New England. So I mean, that's a
tough that's a tough call there.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, they've won one game and the chances are that
they're going to lose those four. I mean, maybe maybe
beat Miami, but I think you'll be able to tell
a little bit more about Dylan Gabriel even should the
Browns lose you know, one, two, three, or all four
of those games.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
And then interesting enough. So let's just for argument sake,
say should or gets a chance to start.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
In week ten.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Out of the bye week, you got at New York,
the Jets, home against Baltimore at Las Vegas, and then
home against the forty nine ers over your next four
and at that point you probably listen if you're if
you're going to roll Dylan Gabriel for four games and
it's just not working, you probably going should the rest
of the season.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean right.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I mean, what incentive do you have other than injury
to go back to Joe Flacco as you just laid out,
or even leave Dylan Gabriel in there for any longer.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
No, I agree, if Gabriel has been bad, then I'm
going with Shador. Yeah, and I'm going to find out
what we have in this kid. I mean that's normally
you know how it works, and then you get nine
games at the end of the season. The Browns have
to be certain where we think, you know, one of
these two young quarterbacks is good enough that we might

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not spend one of those two top draft choice on
a quarterback this year, or you got to be certain, like,
you know what, we're going to make sure if there's
a quarterback, even if we have to spend both number ones,
we're going to get the top pick in the draft.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
We were talking about it for a beat yesterday and
again Riley Moss gon to join us here any minute.
We were talking about a beat yesterday that Shadoor actually
could have been in line for a start this weekend.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Altimore. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
In Baltimore, I mean they did sign Cooper Rush to
a two year contract in free agency, and.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean he's a veteran. It's not to say that
Shador would have or.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Could have beat him out, but that would have been
an opportunity for him to compete there. And I know
his mindset is like, well, Lamar will eventually come back,
and he will, right, and Lamar's going to retake his job.
Shadu Or wouldn't be able to play up to a
level to unseat Lamar Jackson long term, But it is
It is more about the longevity of your career and understanding,
especially as you watch guys like Baker Mayfield and Sam

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Darnold who are prominent starters now in the league. It's
not always a linear I start here and I stay
here for my entire career. In fact, we'll come back
to that here in just seconds. Right now, we're heading
out to the KWA Common Spirit Health Hotline and bring
it on cornerback, Riley Moss. Riley, you're on with Dave
Logan and Ryan Ebert.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
How we're doing.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
We're doing good, Riley, appreciate the time. So you go
from the Bengals pair to the Eagles, I mean a
little bit different stylistically, but talk a little bit about
the matchup with AJ Brown and Devonte Smith and maybe
how they differ in terms of what they present as
problems to to you and and all sort of.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Pat Yeah, you know it's it'll be a good test
for us obviously, you know, coming from what we had
last week to to.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
This week with these guys.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Biggest thing, you know, Aj, top of the route. You
know you're gonna get the push offs and stuff. You've
got to be strong. And then you know the other guy,
you gotta you gotta be able to run a little bit.
He's gonna take the top off.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
He's he's a little.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Bit more consistent, I would say with his routes.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
And Aj is so just being good with your eyes
and stuff. You know. Really it runs through their offense,
runs through the back.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
But at the same time, you know you've got to
be ready for you know, the blockout two man routes
with those guys too.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
So you guys had a pretty tough test this last
week with the two ride receivers you saw, and I
know that ultimately they're not how they didn't have Joe
Burrow out there, so that is part of the equation.
But you face off against T Higgins last year late
in the season. That was quite the battle when you
came into this matchup. What did you learn from your
first one that you were able to take into the

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one you had just on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, you know, being stronger, being consistent and finishing. You know,
I was proud of myself of you know, being sticky
this week.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Or last week, I should say, you know, and.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Making them make a play on you. You know what I
mean so early, you know, you caught that fadeball on me,
but you know, just kept kept playing and the touch
sticky and and you know, we we had a good
plan and and uh, you know it worked out.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
So the biggest thing, I think the biggest takeaway was.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Just being able to be consistent and.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
You know, finish the place.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
We're talking with Broncos quarterback Riley Riley Moss and when
you talk about again those two Philadelphia receivers and and
obviously this is a team that loves to run the ball.
Then you said, when they when they decide to block
it up and go with the two man route, it
requires you guys to to play, uh in coverage longer.
But I want to get back to AJ. He's kind
of a to me at least, he's kind of a

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unique wide receiver. He doesn't really look like a wide receiver.
It looks more like a small tied end. But he
in terms of physicality and some of the guys that
you have you have gone against when you see AJ Brown,
is that maybe the most sort of impressive thing about
him as a wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Oh yeah, you know obviously, you know, when.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
You're two twenty five and you can run like that
and get breaks like that, you know, poses poses a threat,
you know, and it's it's important, I think, to you know,
win the line and squeeze into the sideline when you're
getting those nine balls and stuff.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
So you know, the biggest thing I.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Think is is matching his physicality, especially at the.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Top of the route.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
It was I forget who said it after the game,
but they were talking about how much you really like
and rolls revel in that teams are going to target
you and then they're going to come after you every
single game. I mean, I guess there's a bit of
a mindset of the cornerback, right you know that there's
gonna be, Hey, you're gonna get a couple of wins
against me. It over the longevity of our game. You
feel like that you belong and that you're going to

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get those wins. The mentality that where does that come from?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
You know, I think it's just how I was raised
and how I came up. You know, I've always had
that competitive spirit and and that you know, never back
down spirit, and I think, you know, it's kind of
carried me.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Throughout my entire career and.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
And you know it's what It's why I'm so good
at what I do, you know, being able to forget something,
you know, negative that happens and continue to do my
job and I get phased with, you know, some negative
stuff that might happen.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
So I think, uh, I think just.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Being gritty and and you know, just playing ball and
having a short memory.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Last couple here for you, so kind of a quarter
pole question here for you with the defense. How do
you guys feel like you've sort of responded over the
last two weeks to the win against Cincinnati and where
you're at in the season defensively?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, I like where we're at.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
You know, we're we're we're approaching practice well, you.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Know, we're trying to pick something up every day, right,
so just getting one percent better every day, and you
know throughout the course of the season, you know, you
got to you got to be able to get better
each week. And you know, coming off a Monday night game,
you know, we have a shorter week, and so you've
got to be a little bit, you know, a little
bit more dialed in and what you're doing and what
you're trying to accomplish. So I like where we're at,

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and you know, we got the guys. You know, like
a lot of guys have said like, we have the
guys in the room to do it. And on the
defensive side, you know a lot of guys who were
just gritty and go out and do their job and
are laser focused.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Riley, last question for me. You've got the same defensive
coordinator from last year in Advanced Joe so Finn just maybe
a thing or two that that feels different to you
about this year's edition of the Broncos defense after after
four games has compared to maybe some of the play
from last year.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, you know, I think the biggest thing for us,
you know, and I'll speak for the back end, is
our communication.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Has been a lot better since last year.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
You know, I think a lot.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
Of guys trust each other.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know, obviously, you know we've had we had VJ
last year, we have them this year. We've really dialed
into things that we need to dial in that we were,
you know, messing up maybe last year. We've perfected and
are continue to perfect some of the things we still
need to work on. But I think it's a big
trust factor and just the guys that we have and
we all trust each other, and it makes us play

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that much faster, very quickly.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Before I let you go, Susie Warred and our sideline
reporter for the Broncos broadcast, interviewed you about your coffee choice,
and I just wanted to tell you a tip of
the cap, sir. Pumpkins spice latte is a fantastic choice,
and I fully, I fully support that.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Thank you. I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna
jump in and save this Riley Listen. We appreciate the time.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
We'll look forward to calling the game in Philly.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah, thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I appreciate it. That is a Riley vass.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it was unprophet that you're going to ask him
if these weren't flanneled today?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well, I almost said, but I know he's coming off
practice fields, so that would be a no. But I
could also follow that up with like, in your free
time do.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
You wear flannel?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
How would you end the sentence in your free time?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
I would say I would say what kind of but.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
It would sound kind of creepy. If I'm like, what
kind of clothes do you wear?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It wouldn't sound kind of creepy, it would sound totally creepy,
like like totally creepy. Last time Riley Ever came on
the show, it was.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Like, hey, man out on a Saturday, would you have
got nothing to do?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
What do you like to wear? Summer fall?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
It doesn't matter what do wear? All right, we'll come
back and react to that coming up next. You were
at the game on Sunday calling the game right.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
The hell like I'm sitting in the south stands enjoying
a cold one. Although that would not be a bad idea, I.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Didn't mean to pause as long as I did there.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
What I was trying to say is you I remember
you saying on Monday that the crowd had a little
bit of a nervousness.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
After that first drive and then our first drive.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
They're going right after Riley Moss or T Higgins Riley Moss,
I mean, this is exactly what we saw Justice last year.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, and he's he's in phase.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's not like he's like he's really having a bad
game early on.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's just T Higgins as that dude. I mean, he's
just that big receiver that bought is you.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
So it felt like from what you were saying, is
that early on in the game, there was a little
bit of a nervousness, like here we go again.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
The old Powter hole. Yeah, the Powoter holes were tight
at in power field of Male High and you know,
you know they were again. I think my suggestion for
Broncos Country would be take a deep breath when it
comes to Riley Moss. Every corner in the league is

(23:54):
going to get beat from time to time, even the
really good ones to the great ones, to the elite ones.
It's just gonna happen. Riley Moss is a good player.
He's he plays opposite of pats Er Tan and so
A he gets more work, he gets more business, as
we used to say, and b he's critiqued, you know,

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to to the standard that pats Er Tan sets and
that's that's an elite corner over there. I have no
problem with Moss. I mean, I'm gonna catches. T Higgins
finished with three. Yeah, I mean so yeah, there's not
I mean so much of playing corner in this league

(24:39):
or anywhere else is dependent upon how much pressure is
generated on the quarterback, if the quarterback in the NFL,
if the quarterback has a chance to stand back there right,
which Jake Brownie did not and just sort of survey
the house and see what coverage you're in, and then
I know where I go, where's my best matchup? Corners
are going to get beat a lot, a lot. So

(25:01):
I'm I'm I'm cool with Moss. I think I think
he's going to be fine. I also think the fact
that he's a white dude. And I've said this before,
you know you, I mean, it's just it's it's you
just look out there and say, Okay, is he is
he capable of doing this? And I can tell you
from a physical standpoint, he absolutely is. He can run,

(25:23):
he's long, he's physical, he's a He's a gifted corner
in this league.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
A no tough matchup on the docket this week. What
do you think about the A J.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Brown stuff, like the tweeting out the Bible verse about
not feeling appreciated more like I can go and go
find the quick quick line. But he basically is letting
him know him very publicly that he's not not enjoying
his role in the offense.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
He had two catches for seven yards.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Of targets, he had eight or nine targets.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, he had, you know, nine targets.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
A J.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Brown, I think historically, even when he was with Tennessee.
I mean A J. Brown is one of the most
gifted physically physically gifted I should say, wide receivers in
the league, just in terms of his strength, his size,
his power, any speed. Now, what he's not is he's
not like he's not one of the top five, six,

(26:17):
seven route runners in the game. And there's plenty of
guys that are really good players that you could say
the same thing about over the years. He's a guy
he can run past you, he can body you out
of the way with his power. But I haven't been
overly impressed really with how Philadelphia has just attacked the

(26:38):
four teams that they've played so far in the passing game.
It's a new offensive coordinator, and I think from Jalen
Hurts standpoint, I think one thing's pretty apparent. He's not
going to put that ball in Harm's way. You're not
going to see him throw like a ball on a
post route with a single safety sitting in the middle
of the field. And we've seen some NFL guys do that.

(26:59):
Jalen is not going to do that. So I like
the Broncos matchup, I really do. I think the game
will come down to can they stop the running game,
both with Saquon and Hurts. Is the Broncos box the
front seven up to what's coming on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, there's a few times watching this Tampa Bay game,
there's a few times where the edge got a little
too upfield on it and Jalen's just gonna take off.
I mean, he's gonna once he sees that small little opening.
He's smart, he's very smart, and again he's he's not
going to force it, and what he does is all
of a sudden, he's gonna gash you for thirty plus
yards on a run because you got to feel too much.

(27:41):
So I think it's especially the I think especially our
edge rush, and they've done a really good job of
this in general when they're facing mobile quarterbacks. But Jonathan
Cooper and Nick Bonito, and I guess when you talk
about Jonah Ellis also getting in there, They've just got
to be really careful about about letting those offensive tackles
direct to them beyond the quarterback, because if they end

(28:02):
up meeting in the middle like they did last week,
Jale Hurts ain't gonna be standing there.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
He's gonna be downfield.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Run.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think this game honestly boils down to which offense
can make the other team play a little bit from behind, right,
And I think it's important. The Eagles offense has been
great when they get to the red zone, right, they
are absolutely perfect. They're number one offensive team in the
red zone. Every time in four games they've been in

(28:30):
the red zone, they've scored a touchdown. Broncos have been
really good. They're a top five team in the red zone,
and the Eagles are a top five team defensively. So
when you get to the red zone, they're making you
settle for field goals and not touchdowns. Those two things,
in its most simplistic sort of analysis, I think we'll

(28:51):
decide the game if the Broncos get down there. When
they get down there, they've got to find ways to
score touchdowns, right And conversely, maybe the Broncos can keep
the Eagles. Nobody else has been able to can keep
them when they breach the twenty? Can you keep the
Eagles out of the end zone and make them kick?
I think it's a close game. I give Denver every

(29:13):
opportunity to go back and win this game, but they're
gonna have to not beat themselves. And almost every team
the Eagles have played so far, and I can't tell
if it's because they grind them down, because they do
grind on you. Oh yeah, but every single team the

(29:33):
Eagles have beaten in four games, they have contributed to
their demise and the Broncos cannot do that otherwise they'll
be victim number five.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
And this is something we talked about during the break.
Is just that includes even special teams. Oh, of course,
the Eagles have been feasting on teams, and sorry, we
spent a lot of time on offense and defense, but
special teams. They won a game against the Rams because
of a block field goal. They had a block plu
return for a touchdown. This last week against have a Baker.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I mean the Rams in the late third quarter in
Philadelphia are ahead twenty six to seven, right and lose
the game.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
And they lose that game. Yep, But that's who the
Eagles are.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
This average chance to win one thousand dollars coming up
the next five minutes thanks to Mercedes Bens of Littleton.
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coming up here at the top of the hour at
four o'clock, and he's gonna join me all the way
till six. We have Broncos Country tonight this evening at
six o'clock. Ben and Nick well, I don't actually think

(30:31):
Nick's off, but I think Ben is gonna be here,
and that's gonna be fun looking forward to to hearing.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
What he had to say.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It's been cool having them break it down the Broncos
this week.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I'm with Dave. I think there's some there's some optimism here.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Had fun talking about that with Rick, but but Rick
and I naturally go optimistic on almost every game. I remember,
even a couple of years ago, talking myself into the
Broncos beating the Dolphins before they hung seventy Autumn so
you know, it's one of those, like any given Sunday
kind of conversation.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
But I do think there's a little bit more there.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
The Eagles seem like they are, how should I say it,
They're kind of due for a bit of a dud game.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
They've been surviving on the skin in their teeth.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Now.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
These are similar conversations that we had last year about
the Kansas City Chiefs and some of our discussions about
boy that they can't keep getting away with this. As
you would hear in Breaking Bad. I feel the same
way about the Eagles, even winning twenty of their last
twenty one Super Bowl champs, they do find ways to
win games.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
But I think more than anything.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Just like we talked about with the Chiefs, teams find
ways to lose just as much as the Eagles find
ways to win. Getting a blocked punt. You know Tampa
Bay who did battle back in that game and got
it within one score there in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
You have a.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Blocked punt early on, and you put yourself almost in
an immediately disadvantage position and it's seven nothing. Go ahead
and sit down, Benny, and then it's seven nothing right away,
And then of course the Eagles offense. Once they take
the field, Jalen Hurts gets a big explosive play, and
then it's fourteen nothing and you're already kind of in trouble.

(32:12):
And this is the kind of team that's the worst
kind of team to be down by a couple of scores.
Benny Fowler slide in here with his Michigan State shirt
that's not by accident.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Michigan State shirt and pants. Ye see, man, it's good
to see you too.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Everything good.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Everything is good, man, Everything is good. I'm doing great.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I was just talking about Draymond Green and the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I was talking about talking about the Eagles. I would
I wouldn't. I wouldn't have that conversation without you here.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I would give you a chance to represent your side
of things.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
No, But I was talking about the the optimism with
this matchup. I think that there's some reasons to be optimistic.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
You I do. I do.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I think you know, the Broncos are two and two
right now, but I think if you look at the
offense from week two to week three to week four,
I think there's been progression. Three and a half quarters
are good football against the Colts against the Chargers doesn't
look so great, but things were open and there were

(33:11):
opportunities that were missed. You have a touchdown lead in
the fourth quarter one hundred percent, and then you go
into Week four. Obviously the Bengals, you know, everybody's gonna
talk about Joe Burrow being out, but if he had played,
that defense still would have been out there.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
So I thought bo looked better.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
So I think progressing upwards, Eagles offense doesn't look great
at all. I think say Quan's only the average in
what three point four to three point five yards per carry?
Aj Brown is upset cryptic tweets, I gotta ask you
about that.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I like Devonte Smith though, I think he has been.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
The the focal point, not focal point, but he's been
the most consistent part and pass catcher in their offense.
Defense is pretty stout Angio. You know, he's going to
keep everything in front of you. He's going to make
both think and make make them take the dump the
dump offs and that. But I think there's a real opportunity,
you know, especially with the defense. This defense matches up

(34:01):
well in this I think it's gonna be one of
those twenty to seventeen, seventeen to fourteen type of games. Really, yeah,
I don't think. I don't think there's a lot of points.
You know, I think who does that favor? Because because
an interesting discussion on who that would favor. If it's
a low scoring game, that might be more of a
favor for the Eagles, you think so well, I go

(34:24):
back and forth on that, because the Eagles offense seems
like they're a bit of a sleeping giant because we
know that they have a lot of firepower.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
This isn't one of those where we've seen historically some
teams where they're they're really.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Led by their defense. This is a very good defense.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
You're absolutely right about that, and they can win games
with their defense and the run game. But they've got
two once on the outside, and they've got a really
good tight end too and Dallas Goddard, so they've got
they've got all the makings of being one of the
best offenses the League's just not clicking. Dallas gotters got
to beat us. To me, if if I think about
this game plan and how I would play it, I'd

(34:59):
match startand up with Devonte Smith, take him completely out Okay,
Riley Moss on AJ Brown and safety help over top,
and if God re beats us, then you're all right
with that. But I don't think he's going to have
one hundred and fifty yards receiving. But that's kind of
how I would play it. I'd played that Belichick style
of you double AJ Brown and you put your best
corner on the second receiver and you live with that.

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All right, got Betty Fowler and studio, we'll obviously spend
a lot of time talking about the Broncos Eagles.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Get your thoughts on AJ.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Brown, get your thoughts on the offense, what they've done
so farks, haven't I haven't adgend in studio in a while.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Man, yeahs for that, all right, we'll get to that
coming up next