10-05-25 Hour 5 of Broncos React

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
About the Broncos chances, and it's a thirty six yard
field goal for will LUTs like, that's not something you
should normally get worried about. But because of who the
Philadelphia Eagles are and what they have historically done to
shift things when it comes to wins and losses, that
field goal was by no means guaranteed. But you needed

(00:21):
all three phases to show up today, and all three
phases really did the Broncos win tonight twenty one to seventeen.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
People texted in earlier Ben wondering what the national narrative
was gonna be on this game after the fact.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well, who cares? Who cares what the national people think?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
But then I'm saying somebody asked, I think Broncos fans
like to tune in the very next day and see
what you know.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let them sleep. I'd rather be slept on let them sleep.
But to those people, just for a second, okay, fine,
you know what ran what you want, what you want
to see on cold pizza. I wait, that's not even
the thing anymore. If you're just gonna get Bayless's show.
Oh wait, he's not in the air anymore. Uh, what
Steve screaming a smith is gonna yell at you in
the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
If you just want to dismiss the principle of it,
the entire what do you want to say?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
What do you want to see them say?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, the question I was going to ask you before
you dismissed the premise was are they going to say
that the Broncos won this game or the Eagles choked
it away?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Who cares they won? Like at the end of the day.
That's so that's what I'm getting at, Like, like, why
do we care what they say at the end of
the day doesn't affect the next game that the Eagles
did choke this thing away, but the Broncos won it.
I mean, either which way you go, you're right, we
still come out ahead on the scoreboard. I can't imagine
why you're not very popular. Well, they hate me. I
got this guy wants me to go back to Kansas City,
a place I haven't lived in. Got how many years now?
They may have a point, thirty years, thirty five years? Yeah,

(01:38):
how old am I now? Well it's it's the chief stattoo. Really, yeah,
both of them, honestly, right, Yeah, Well the other one
I can't talk about no, not not publicly. I don't
like they are probably talking about how the Eagles choked it,
to be honest, but at the end of the day,
let them let them say that. Who cares At the
end of that That's the thing that like, we don't
need to seek national media approval. We can just be

(01:59):
good and win footb Well. I like some Broncos fans
actually kind of care about that stuff. Really, yeah, I do, Okay,
I tune in to national podcasts. I tuned in out
of National. I don't show. I don't want to gate
keep fandom. I mean, you're kind of gated I am.
I know as I'm admitting it. I don't want to
gate keep fedom, so I'll take myself. I can't understand
caring about that just because I don't. But if you do,

(02:20):
then they're probably gonna My guess is they'll say they
choked it away, which is unfortunate because I think the
Broncos went and took this one. I think the Eagles
choked it and the Broncos took it. I think it both.
I think the Eagles had opportunities that they completely blew
and they got away from what was successful for them
in the first half. I think any game plan which
calls on Saquon Barkley to run the ball six times

(02:41):
is entirely the wrong game plan. So I will say
in that regard, I believe they choked it. On the
other hand, I will say, bo, what was it one
of the fourth quarter stats again, nine to ten with
a one hundred and fifty quarterback rating or whatever it was.
So both things are ostensibly true. They you know, the
Eagles choked and the Broncos took it, and you needed
both to make that happen. So that's that's what makes
these shows what they are because there's two right answers

(03:02):
and they get to debate both right answers. Well, I
don't necessarily lovely.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I mean, screen it at each other, but I don't
necessarily have all the debate shows.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I think I just big Skip Bayless fan, right, Edward.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I tend to enjoy Do you have a show the
perception from people that cover the team outside the market,
because sometimes I think when we are inside the market
covering the team, there's a little bit of a tunnel
vision on these things.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, there's like a I mean, there are internal narratives,
you know, the insular narratives that sort of happen and
fester a little bit. I guess. I guess, like if
I see something in passing, I'm like, Okay, that's what
they think. But I have never cared about what people
who aren't here think about what's going on here. I
just haven't. I mean, and I guess I'm weird. Maybe
I'm weird. Maybe I'm the weird one. It's possible, well,

(03:46):
based on the text line, I might be.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
It was something we were discussing earlier because of a
caller and I think a texture as well. Sounds sort
of asked like, do you think that it would be
this way or this way? And I said, it's probably
going to be mostly the Eagles choked it away from
a national perspective, but that tends to be a little
bit of the case. Somebody had texted in, uh, they
didn't like the way Tony Romo called the games, that
there was a little bit of a lean there. I
I honestly don't. I didn't get a chance to listen
to it. I'll listen to it tomorrow when I rewatched

(04:09):
the game. But most of the time, Yeah, I guess
you actually saw the TV. Yeah, we had the TV.
We did not have the Broncos. Unfortunately it burned down
this week. We will next week.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
We didn't have the audio SYNCD up, but so we
we did have to listen to it. I didn't. I
don't know what I'd have to know what they were
specifically referencing, because I felt like, you know, Tawny called
it pretty fair. I think he calls it pretty fair.
I don't, you know. At the end of the day,
my thing is like about that kind of suff who cares?
I would rather them be crap talking the Broncos and
us continue to win and be like, how do you
like me? Now? How do you like me?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Every week there's something there's there's more in the gloat
when they were down talking you, you know what I mean, Like,
there's there's more in it for me in that regard,
I guess I when they're when they're being positive about you,
it's it's kind of hard to gloat when you win,
you know, Okay, thank you for your perspective. Ben, I'm
a weirdo though, Like, who cares what I think? No?
I just it, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
He brings back memories of us doing Broncos tonight, where
I would bring up a premise and you'd.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Be like, I don't care, this is stupid, and I'd
be like, all right, I'm on you and your house.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I'm glad we have fifteen more minutes to keep talking
about something you don't want to talk about. But you
didn't chime in beforehand to tell me you didn't want
to talk about this thing.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So now here we are. I just I mean again,
I've never I probably should check in for a therapist
on it. Yeah, you know, like I just don't. I
don't know. I'm more at home when national media, who
isn't here sees highlight cutups and tries to make generalities
about it. I'm more at home when they're down talking
to Broncos and we're like, no, bro, we're just good.

(05:35):
How about that? How about we're just good? I don't
I don't care really what they think. And most of
the times it's it's surface level, ill informed commentary. That's
why don't watch those shows, Like that's why I don't
watch that stuff because it's mostly surface. I will go
listen to podcasts of our opponents that week because they
tend to be a little bit more dialed in on
their team. But I don't know, I'm just weird. I've

(05:57):
never cared about you know, surface level generic opinion.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Well, it can be educated opinion, like if it's say
Dan Orlowski breaking down something that bo Nix is doing.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, Okay, I love that when he does individual breakdowns
of the plays and stuff like that. I love that point.
So you do like national coverage on your team. Not really,
that's just that's him breaking down a specific play. That's
not him making a generality about Okay, tod the Broncos
win this, or did the Eagles choke this or whatever.
I don't need Rex Ryan who watched you know, all
of sixty seconds of the game, but you're out guys. Well,

(06:29):
that's what I assume. I mean when national.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Coverage can actually be very constructive, like discourse on a team,
it doesn't necessarily have to be the hot takes that
are flying around from Steven A.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Smith.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Boy, there's some really good stuff like the Athletic Football Podcast,
for example, I think does a really like high level
football conversation.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Robert Mays does a really good job on that stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think Nate Tice does some really good stuff on
young Like there's some really good analysis out there. That's
national coverage of a team that gives you perspective on
it because they're not inside the market from more of
an objective view. And sometimes they're negative on bo Nix
even in the process of a win. And sometimes they're
positive on things that I didn't see before I tell
you what it's perspective I did not consider, and I

(07:11):
usually like that.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I will see the point simply because I haven't listened
to those things. Although I know Nate, who's Mike Tyson's Sun.
Does you know does analysis used to work for you Pittsburgh.
I'll see the point on that simply because I haven't
listened to those things. But the stuff that I usually
see is this the hot take re in passing, and
that's the stuff I don't care for. So that's what
I'm commenting on there.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, so you're sort of agreeing with my premise, but
you know, never mind on the text line five six,
six nine zero, great team win. But is anyone else
curious why the Broncos didn't opt to throw the ball
on second and nine in the Broncos' final possession to
try for a first down so they could run out
the clock instead of giving the Eagles a chance to
score and win the game. Thanks well, so the final

(07:52):
drive or the final series of plays, they were running
the ball with JK and then I actually, I actually
personally liked what they did there on third down because
they gave bo Nix an option to throw it, but
it was an understanding that the only thing you can't
do is have an incompletion, right, And I thought that
was actually a really great design of Hey, if it's there,

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if for some reason the Eagles bite on the run,
and then you can complete a pass for a touchdown
because they're obviously down there inside the red zone. Fantastic
that that that's ideal. But if it's not there, do
not throw an incompletion, Just eat the ball. And that's
exactly what he did, and that's, yeah, that's your coach
to do that. That's exactly what it was.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's third down, it's inside the two minute warning, and
and to be honest with you, that that would be
my call. Sean Paton did exactly what I would do
in those situations, which is we got a one read
play design and off of play action and you're going
to run and if it is not, if you are
not one hundred percent that that's going to be a completion,
eat it, follow down, and eat it inbounds. Uh. And

(08:55):
that's and that's basically what they did. He got I
think it was a one yard loss maybe on the play,
I can't remember exactly, but that's that's smart football. That's
intelligent football because you're getting the best of all worlds.
You're giving yourself an opportunity at that play while at
the same time making sure that you don't have a
situation where you don't eat those what was it forty

(09:15):
five seconds off the clock whatever it was. The only
thing that I would not have done was called the
time out. I'd have taken the delay a game. Yeah,
at that point, there was no reason for Sean Payton
to call the time out. There, keep the time out
in case your defense needs it. I would have left
the time out in my pocket and taken the delay
of game and then had Will Lutz kicking a what
is it forty one yard field goal instead of thirty six.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
This one, guys, I'm not sure this point has been hit,
but I think the pass rush today was fantastic. They
were very disciplined in the rush lanes. They didn't allow
Hurts to kill them with his feet or on broken plays,
and the mush rush forced him to try and purely
beat our defense with his arm. Great show has always
fellas Yeah, I mean, Jalen Hurts I think over the
course of the game ended up with two carries for

(09:57):
three yards. Now, some of those ended up being sacks
as he's sort of scrambling around back there, but there
just wasn't an opportunity for him.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
To step up and beat you that way.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean, that was that was a debate or discussion
that we had over the course of the week, like, hey,
Jalen Hurts is a guy that still has that ability,
and there are some things not working for the offense,
but that's something that still is. Somebody also texted in earlier,
and you may dismiss this altogether, but somebody texted in
earlier saying that they appreciated that the Broncos didn't find
themselves in a third or fourth and short where the

(10:27):
tush push came into play.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
We'd see that today.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
There's all every single week any team plays the Eagles,
it's all about, Hey, when the tush push comes up,
it's basically an automatic totally yard.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Don't let him get in the third and short and
the play never comes into it to affect. But it
never happened.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It never happened that they got in a position where
they could run a fourth and short or a third
and short tush push.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, it just didn't happen to day right, And I
think that was by design. I think the objective was
to keep them in long, long yarded situations and that
that factors that out, and it worked pretty well, especially
the fact that Philly didn't run a ball. Again, this
is I mean, that was their own mistake. So I
don't know, I don't know what part of the game
plan that was. Again, what what game plan? Eyeballs the
Denver Broncos and says, you know what we need to do,

(11:08):
hand the ball off to sake one six times for
the whole game.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
But whoever came up with that, that was the wrong
game plan. Completely agree on that. I'm glad we finally
agree on something.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
It's so nice for you to be right for once. Face,
Oh your face. I love how you know.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I've been on here doing the post game now for
you know, upwards of five six hours, and you know,
book rather than roll with me on a topic or
something you just will you know you're welcome. It's a
pretty classic ben All right, we'll come back the e
or sorry. The Patriots are at the Buffalo twelve yard
line because they just got a false start. It's got

(11:44):
to be Brewllier at the seven yard line, third and goal,
so we'll see if they end up getting any points
out of this. It's a three to three game with
about to be at halftime right hours bitchmall Bright, it's
Broncos react on the KWA Broncos radio network.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Nobody, nobody was, nobody's gonna hear nobody got that reference.
Somebody had Scott's like nading along.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Ye, So one of their textures is wondering when we're
not talking about Jade Baron and his hold?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, which play is that specifically? I'm trying to bring
that up right now. I think it was on on
Dallas Goddard.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
He had a PBu past breakup and it even I
think Dave made a comment saying like that was pretty close.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, to be fair, that game was egregiously officiated across
the board, so it's possible that we got away with
the holding on on that. Certainly that game there were
phantom penalties that were called, like, for instance, the Pat
Bryant that was not a pick play the guy fell
over there were you know, and they called that, and
then they didn't call the grounding that probably should have
been grounding on us. They called the was it to

(12:45):
the play that got them down to the thirty there?
They called the DPI there, which was iffy, and then
the next play with there was definitely DPI, they didn't
call it, which is I guess the makeup that game
was just poorly officiated. Brett, you're up next tier on Broncos. React?
What's out Brett? Going good? How are you?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
First of all?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Big wind tonight from the Broncos, no doubt. What I
want to know though, is why can we not look
at our boy, Riley Moss?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
What do you want to what do you want to
look at Brett?

Speaker 6 (13:18):
Well, it seems to be he's like immune from criticism
by you guys.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Like my problem with Riley.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Moss is this, He's a fine he's fine in coverage,
you know, ten to fifteen yards, you get him down
the field and he simply does not have the speed.
He's a half step behind every time and every big
play you know who it is it's against Riley Moss. Now, granted,

(13:46):
he's being targeted a lot because of you know, PS
two on the other side. Sure, but when you're still,
you know, getting burnt sixty seventy percent of the time,
you know, aren't you allowed to ask.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Some glass about you know what's the problem?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, okay, first of all, it's okay to ask questions.
But let me back up a little bit. First of all,
he's not getting burned sixty seven percent of the time.
That's you know, that's a made up number. Let's not
let's not do that. Look, Riley plays the Broncos play
because of the style of defense they play, which is
it's a Cover one Robert defense at its core. Now,
they do other things, but that's the bass play. What

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the corners are doing. They play what's called trail technique,
which is you're playing sort of a step behind or
whatever and then using catch up speed to get in
there and make a play on the ball. That's why
you see Cirtan looking like on some plays that he's
beat by a guy when he's really not beat by
a guy. Now, Riley Moss doesn't have quite the catch
up speed that Cirtan does. That technique is a little
more difficult for him. There certainly was a big play

(14:48):
against DeVante Smith where he played wrong technique, and I've
mentioned that. So he's not immune to criticism. But what
I'm saying is that a lot of the criticism that
gets lobbed at him, for instance, seems to be sort
of just generic. He got here, that's gonna that's gonna
happen sometimes. I mean, you're you're gonna get targeted a
ton because you're Riley Moss. You the guy who plays
opposite passer Tan. It's just like when when Dion was
in Dallas, right, they would target whoever was on the

(15:10):
other side there. I think it was. Was it Kevin
Harper was on the other side of the time, I'm
trying to remember. And so by by nature of who
you are, what you do, you're gonna get a lot
of targets. Riley Moss per target, not a bad corner.
But there have been some plays that he's given up
now to his credit, I mean, for all this talk
about Riley Moss, were what five games in the season now,
the man's giving up two touchdowns, and both those plays

(15:31):
he gave up touchdowns were perfectly defensed by him the
Justin Herbert magic throw over Nick Benito, remember that one.
And then there's another one I had to go back.
Maybe it was a Titans game or whatever, where he
was just he was just in the pocket or whatever
it was, and there was nothing you could do to
defend it any better. I can't remember if it was
the Titans or the Colt game, Colts game, whatever it was,
he gave up on it and he was just he
was in that guy's pot. You couldn't have played it
any any better. It's still, you know, it just happened.

(15:53):
So what I'm trying to say is he's not immune
to criticism. You're you're right on that. He's not immune
to criticism. I just don't like when it a little
bit unfair and when people dump on Riley Moss. And
I'm like, I'll tell you this, the coaching staff doesn't
think he's a week week link and they know more
about football. They've forgotten more about football than I'll ever know.
And that that's, you know, that's all I'll say about that.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Well, I mean, it's it's it's becoming a theme because
he struggled at times big time last year. Same problem
getting burnt being a step behind. I guess my real
question is why if you're gonna draft a cornerback, a
high level first round cornerback, when you have way more

(16:35):
pressing needs at what linebacker, safety, wide receiver, which nobody
thought we were getting a cornerback, and they go out
and get a cornerback and then they barely play well.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Ok.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Actually, when when Riley Moss is struggling, I mean, this guy's.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
The first round not struggling though struggle. I don't know that.
I wouldn't classify Rob Moss is struggling. I mean I
would say that. Again, I don't say the coaching staff
would disagree with that. What I will say is Vance
has shown a reluctance to play rookies before. That's that's
always been his thing. He's very reluctant to play rookies
and that's his thing. That's the way he was in Arizona,
That's the way he was here. That's just who he is.

(17:12):
That said, as far as Moss goes, let's let's back
up a little. Because you talked about his struggling last year.
He did, he was also coming he was also playing injured. Uh,
he and Sirtan late in the season. Both of them
had injuries, and that's why you saw what happened in
the Cleveland Cincinnati I think it was maybe the Colts
Raiders that there was a stretch of games in there
where those guys were hurt, they were out and they

(17:33):
came back and they gave up more plays than normal,
and uh, I think that's probably what we're conflating here.
Cirtain's also playing to an injury that he suffered in
the Colts game, and so he's been a little, a
tick slow, a little hobbled by that that he's been
playing through. Guys are are who played below expectation tend
to be playing through injury. They're not disclosing. I'll just

(17:55):
I'll let you know in any sport. That said, again,
I don't think that Moss is a lot ability. I
think we're looking at this through a different lens because
of what we have on that defense and around that,
and so our relativity is a bit skewed on this.
Riley Moss would be a starting CB one for about
a third of the corners the third of the teams
in the league. He really would. He's a good corner
there has just been. It's nature the beast. The way

(18:16):
the rules are in the NFL, you're going to give
up some plays. And when you are the most targeted
corner in the NFL, because you play opposite Patzertan, you're
going to give up by you know, statistically, you're just
going to give up more plays, and so that's sort
of that's sort of what happens. I don't think that
Moss is struggling. I just think we're looking at this
through a different frame of reference because we see what's
on the other side and hold it up to that

(18:37):
standard instead of your average corner standard and go from there.
And by the way, you were right on the text
like Kevin Smith, Alvin Harper was the receiver. I combine
the names. I appreciate you handling that I've been I've
been doing that all afternoon. I don't want to. I
don't I don't know what dog DoD I mean. I
get it. He's asking the question. But at the same time,
I'm like, you.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Know, well, there's an accusation in there that that we're
protecting Riley Moss, which I think is obnoxious because.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Nobody he protecting.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, why why are we protecting Riley Moss or he's not.
You know, we can't levy any kind of complaints or criticism.
We' we level plenty at him, and if and if
he does play with bad technique or he does make
a mistake, he absolutely deserves the criticism. I just don't
think that it's relative to what people think he's doing
out there, which to frest point what he said in
there saying.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Look, why are you playing John A.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Burn And you know you ignored all these other positions,
they'd ignore anything. That took a guy they thought was
going to go in the top ten. They took him
at twenty, and they loaded up a position that most
of the league wants to continue to load at that
and that you want to have a lot of depth
add and especially we saw last year when they didn't
have a lot of depth added and they had dealt
with injuries what that ended up looking like.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
So adding a developmental.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Guy that could play maybe at a high level early
on in the season, maybe even later in the season.
He is a starting we don't really know right now,
but the fact is you're able to work him in
while you still have really talented corners playing.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I think the best way to look at the Riley
Moss situation is look at what this team was when
Moss wasn't in there last year. Look at what Chris Abrams,
Drain and Tomorrow Mathis were giving up. Go back and
look what I remember. It was not good. And so
that that's what I'm trying, like, like, you can tell
how good a player is, even if we think he's

(20:18):
struggling a little whatever, by how good you aren't when
he's not in there. And that's sort of I think
at the end of the day when that is I'll
just say this and I want to put a ball
on that particular subject, hopefully. I've talked to people on
that coaching staff. They do not view Riley Moss as
a liability at all. They don't. In fact, I would

(20:38):
suggest that they would say another corner would would be
somebody that they would suggest as a liability there before
they'd say it's him.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Let's past ten seconds for station identification. You're listening to
the KIA Broncos radio network. Ben Powers not traveling with
the Broncos to London. Jared Stidham is also not traveling,
but this is due to the birth of a child.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And Stilla will be back this second child just coming
back for the birth and then he's shooting back to
back to London. So uh, and he knows the offense
and just Stid knows the offense. You know, there's nothing
he needs to do out there. I mean, Sam Allinger
can fit fill in and get the backup reps. The
few backup reps are in practice.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I wanted to congratulate Gary, Dave and Don for their
calls and texts earlier tonight. They each won a fifty
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next week. And our coverage starts at four thirty a m.

(21:38):
I'll be at five thirty am and not to you.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh my god, I gotta talk to our bosses about this,
like an extra pay for this that would be a no.
But who's that show? Shannon is that you? No, Shan
is not gonna be here for thirty He has to
do that every day the week. Get senior and he's like, no,
let me leave with Is that out here that Shannon

(22:08):
Scott's gold? You guys, you guys miss out on the
comedy all right, three on three, seven eighty five.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
H let's see here, Jerry, You're up next year on
Broncos React Run untill nine o'clock tonight.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
What's up, Terry? Yeah? What's up?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Man?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah? I just want to say I didn't get to
watch a game. I'm not a huge Broncos fan. I
watch them when I can. I didn't get to watch
this game, but I tuned in right after you read
out that text message that really got you fired up.
Obviously it's just the Riley Boss, right, Yeah, I didn't
even get to hear what the tech said. Well, all

(22:44):
I'm gonna say, man, is you know I'm with Ben.
It's just like, listen, we won? Why why are we
so negative? Right now? Holy cow? We we we pulled
it off. We've watched what two games in a row,
three games in a row with one point differential, and
we came back in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm with him. That's great. They call me the wet
blanket and I'm like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I I know I hear you, and uh yeah, I
think the other thing too, is just you know, again,
I'm not I'm sure I called in as an outside
huge football fan because I'm not. And it's one of
those things I'm hearing everyone talk about, Hey, this guy's
getting targeted. Ridley Moss is getting targeted. He's getting targeted. Okay, well,

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aren't there ten other people on the field. Yes, the
coach should should the coaching staff maybe help them if
that they feel he's not up to the standard. And
then if he's not up just standard, obviously we don't
have anyone anyone else. So I kind of feel like
it's just one of those things that like, hey, we
made it through. I don't think you guys, it doesn't

(23:52):
sound like you got burnt. Yeah, Okay, he's he's he's
doing what he can and let's let's let's be positive
about it and take from Hey, we got to win.
And I'm sure they're going to look at film and
either the coaching staff is going to make some changes
and help them or you know, yeah, we'll make some changes.
But what what what went wrong?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:14):
He got he he got beat a few times. We
all get beat. So yeah, I just wanted to throw
that one out there. Of just hey, we got we
got more of a team. Today is a positive win
from from the champs. So let let's keep going. Let's
keep rocking, Let's let the momentum go and I'm sure
we'll figure out Rightley Moss of whatever needs to happen.

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But yeah, we gotta win.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Let's go, all right, Thank you for the call, Terry, appreciate.
I'm with it, and I love the positivity. You know,
this team could I mean, outside of the Bengals came,
all the other games could have gone kind of either way. Uh,
this this team could just as easily be five and
oh as it could be one and four. You know.
But but the thing about it is is finding ways
to win versus finding ways to lose. And you're hoping

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that today is a reflection of that, finding ways to
win versus the coming up short in the back to
back game against the Chargers and Colts. And again, phillydelf
is a good team. They're a good football team. What
was the status Saqua bark had nine total touches today?
That that's obscene. But you know, if if good teams
want to beat themselves doing stuff like that, hey, we're
happy to oblige. Uh. I just feel like this is

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a confidence builder. I think this is a good I
think this is a good way going forward with his team. Uh,
because it it's you no longer with that win. Get
to make the argument about this team can't beat good teams, right,
which has been the knock on Sean Datons has been
in Denver. Yeah, they beat up on the bad teams.
They win the games they should. They beat the Carolinas
of the world, and then the Cincinnatis and all that,

(25:42):
but they don't beat the Chargers. They don't beat uh,
you know, Buffalo or Baltimore or whatever you be, Philly
today in their on their home turf on a short week.
Nobody can take that from you.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
And the text I that you missed earlier was and
then you guys can go listen to it in the
We'll put We'll podcast everything. By the way, the abuff
the Bills finally get it into the end zone, Josh
Allen to Curtis Samuel for a six yard touchdown. They
pull ahead. It looks like it would be a ten
six early in the third quarter. So yeah, I mean,
somebody had texted in earlier saying that Riley Moss didn't

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belong in the NFL. So the discourse at Riley Moss
it seems so, I don't know, so divisive. I'm not
really sure why. I'mless sure why Riley Moss is so divisive,
but he is. And that was the text that I
was kind of reacting to, is saying that he doesn't
belong in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
He does, he certainly shouldn't be starting. And then you.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Know, we led to a lot of discussion and points
about well the Broncos drafted a first round cornerback, wise,
he not playing more, and so on and so forth.
So kind of got out of hand for a little
bit today. But again you can listen to it on
the podcast. I got a little snippy with him because
of that, but it's gonna happen. Sportstok Radio. We get
into debates. John, you're up next to your on Broncos
React from Portland.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
What's up, John?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Hey, I'm a long time fans, but I wasn't around. Well,
I was around, but I wasn't paying attention in the sixties.
But when they said that thing today about how in
our history we played one hundred before today, one hundred
and thirteen road games where we were behind by two

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touchdowns or more in the fourth quarter and we'd only
won one of them. And I have been racking my
brain ever since trying to think what was that game?
And I know you guys probably have statisticians or people
who can look it up a little easier than I can.
So yeah, I'm just curious to find out with an
n L Way game, what was the game where we

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came back by two touchdowns or more on the road
in the fourth quarter in our history before today.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Okay, I'll see if I can take a look and
see if Tyler I got Tyler Gorse usually tweets out
random stats like that, so let me go see if.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
He, uh, two touchdowns on the fourth quarter? Yeah, on
the road. I want to say Russell Wilson did that
in the comeback against I'll have to go back. I'll
have to go back and look. I think that was
the last time. I think it would be Russ. Okay,
I'm not one hundred because Bo may have done that.

(28:18):
Last year. Was the Cincinnati game? Right? How many was there?
Two four quarter touchdowns? And they didn't win that game?
You had to come back and win, Okay, come back
and win. Yeah, I have to go back and look.
I think it's I'm pretty sure Russ did it. The
question is if Bo did it before Russ did it. Yeah, Mikey,
you up next to Broncos react. What's up? Mikey.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Hey, guys, you got me, We got you great. Thanks
for taking a call. Just had a quick thought for you.
Seemed like today was one of a few games in
recent memory, but definitely a good example of when the
scheme on the coaching side, in the execution on the
defense side especially, came together as a whole really well.

(29:04):
My main example of that is how we could keep
them out of third and short, third and fourth and
short and have them avoid the push, push and all
of that stuff. It seemed like that the execution by
the players and the play calling by the coaches really
threw their game plan off. And I'll get off the
line and let you guys respond. Just wanted to see

(29:24):
what you thought about that.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
All right, Thanks, Mikey. Yeah, I think you know. I
think there were a couple of different things. First of all,
I thought Sean did pretty good on attacking Vic's defense
where it's weak. You saw a lot of those sprint
out hit the flat plays. Vic's defense is weak in
the flats. We saw Derek Carr used to tear us
up in the flats. That's why the Raiders won so
many games against the center row. If you're willing to

(29:48):
stay patient in the flats and then take your chances,
you could beat that defense. Although it is the vogue
defense still in the modern NFL. So I thought the
game plan there, especially with those like those those sprint
to plays to the white side of the field, I
thought those were really good idea, and so I thought
that that was a great way to attack the defense.
On the other side of things, there were some head

(30:11):
scratchers that I'm like, what are we doing here? The
wheel play to Saquan, what do you do in calling
one robber in that particular situation. I think I think
they thought they were going to catch the Eagles napping,
and the Eagles were absolutely not napping. They had it
dialed up, and we've seen the wheel be successful against
this defense before. Right, Certainly the hardballs loved to both
of them love to run it against the Broncos. So yeah,

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that's one thing that the anytime you run on CEE one,
you're susceptible to that. If your linebacker cannot cover or
can't hang with a guy in coverage. You are definitely
susceptible that will play because you know your quarterbacks are
riding the rails on the on the clear out routes.
What are you gonna do? You got nobody there.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
We'll come back more of your calls. Mulvery texts coming
up next on the KWA Broncos radio network. A big
game in the fifty five yarder sort of said a
bit of a tone there. Broncos kind of need to
get some points there. They got an early three to
nothing lead. The Eagles moved down the field right after
that settle for a Jake Elliott thirty one yarder. I
mean it was a close game through I mean certainly

(31:08):
through most of the first half, right and I mean
it was ten to three at halftime. You were like,
all right, well, certainly some missed opportunities. I thought it
was kind of weird they picked up the flag on
the Marvin Mims pass interference the DPI there on the
far right side. Did you see something in that, because
I because at least in our moment we were looking at
it from here, it looked like it was a legit call,

(31:31):
Like even had.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
A piece of his face mask there. Yeah, it's kind
of shielded when you watch it on the replay. Yeah,
so you know, I don't know. My guess is is
that it looked like he grabbed it when reality was
probably just incidental, and they just let that go.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
But they pick up the flag. I thought it was
it was a big moment. Well, I mean that's what
it took points off the ball. Somebody threw a flag
and then somebody else again. That officiating crew, I've got
all the bones to pick.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
They made egregious calls every which way, bothfore and against
Denver in that game. One of the Texas was pointing
out a play that should have been offsetting penalties on
the the DPI where Jade was being held jail Skinner,
which get him off the field, keep him off the field.
Well he did get jail Skinner, got a call for one,
and then he did the very next play right after

(32:15):
he got called, he did it again and sure got
flagged and didn't I've gone back and look at a
few of these, I've looked at the whole thing to
break it all down, but there was there was. This
was as poorly officiated an NFL game as I've seen
in quite some time. I'm not sure that officiating made
the difference one way or another. Obviously, every team that's
losing is always going to say the officiating did, But
I don't think it did. I just think it was

(32:37):
a very poorly officiated game, and both these teams kind
of played through that.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
The Patriots just punched in a touchdown with Romandra Stevenson.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Your guys back, I need him right now. Do you
have a chance to win this week? I do? Really, yeah,
I'm gonna finally get off the schneid. In fact, I've
scored more points this week than I did the last
two weeks combined. Wow, is this in our league? League? Okay,
I don't know about the other I have to look
at the other one. Yeah, all right, Well that's that's good, Ben.
I'm happy for you. Finally. All the injuries to my

(33:08):
injuries Ceedee lamb Elak, Neighbors, Brock Bowers, Mike Evans all
just going down.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Well, in fairness, you don't have those in all one league.
Those are two of those? Evans are on that team? Well, no,
because I had neighbors in that league. Yes, in the
in the in the iHeart League, I had neighbors. Oh,
so I know that for a fact you didn't have.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
It's Lamb, Bowers and whatever on that league, and then
in the other one it's neighbors and Evans.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
So it was a hell of a drive by the
way with Drake May. Drake May was making some pretty
impressive throws there, Stefon Diggs having a nice game against
his former team. Five catches for eighty one yards, including
a thirty one yard moments ago. So Patriots are now
up thirteen to ten, six thirty four remaining in the
third quarter. Back to the text line five six six
nine zero this one. I'm sickened by some of the

(33:53):
people calling in complaining about Riley Moss. The two wins
we had were against crap teams who won on the
road against defending Super Bowl champion, and the Chiefs did
not beat them this year. If we had lost it,
it would have been it would have not been on Moss.
You should not take any more calls about the topic
focused on the sack, Sutton, et cetera. No, listen, we
take the calls and we talk about what you guys

(34:13):
want to talk.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, I mean, we we screened them for sure, but
it's not.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
It's not one of those like where we were shit,
it's like.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
What do you mean for me?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, it's a topic. It was a topic that kind
of I got blown out of proportion a little bit
earlier on by some I don't know, some bad actors
when it comes to the discussion, and unfortunately it wasn't
a fair topic, so it kind of became a bit
of a theme for the show. It's a weird deal though,
because it's a it's such a big win and I'm

(34:47):
not saying they all have to be sunshine and rainbows
and lollipops and yeah, the chance looking for the song.
I know it doesn't all have to be that, but
at the same time, there needs to be a level
of I don't know, fair discourse.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, I think, well something that hasn't got talked about.
That was a positive in this game, and it's normally
not a positive when you're doing this. But Jeremy Crawshaw
punting seven punts in this game, five of me inside
the twenty. Only one of them went for a touchback.
I thought he punted the ball pretty well overall. One
of the punts was a little shaky. The rest of them,
I thought was pretty good overall, especially for a guy
who had some shaky preseason stuff. He's punted pretty well

(35:26):
during the season.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Ryan, This one, Ryan from Peterson Air Force based great
game in a wild nine on the post game. Yeah,
no doubt Broncos fans need to learn how to win again.
The last decade has left left us salty. Hey there's
something to that. Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I mean we got in the sense of that.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
I'd say when I was doing Broncos React right before
the Russell Wilson era, there was just this expected losing
mentality and you.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Just sort of always thought bad things were coming.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, and even when you had good things, you say, yeah,
but yeah, but and I understand. I mean, it's it's
a nature, sort of a fandom, it's a nature. And
even then this season, when the Broncos would play well
or do good things, there's like, well, they're not doing this.
They couldn't beat the Ravens with this kind of game plan,

(36:24):
they couldn't beat the Bills with this kind of game plan.
It's like, okay, well, yeah, but you don't have to
beat those teams today. You had to beat the team
in front of you. And then you work on being
a better team so that when you do see the
Ravens and the Bills. But it's right the way Ravens
are not a good team at this point. When you
do see those teams, then you have a chance to
go toe to toe with them and maybe get a win.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's bad relationship syndrome. Yeah, that's what it is. It's like,
I'm scared to open up my heart again. I don't
want to get hurt again. I'm just saying that there's
a little bit of that you got to. You do
have to learn how to win again as a fan base,
you know. I mean you do kind of have to
have to learn how to do that because you know,
I've seen that, and I've seen teams that you know
that suddenly get hot. Then you got a fan starts
feeling themselves, they get all arrogant on that. You know,

(37:03):
you got to learn how to You got to learn
how to do both. You got to learn how to
lose gracefully and win and win gracefully too. Ryan, are
you about to turn into Michael Douglas from falling down?
Sometimes I feel like that. I feel like I held
it together for the most part. In this post, game,
but there were a couple of moments where it was touching.
Go I could see you in the Michael Douglas haircut
and outfit from falling down in a minute since I

(37:23):
watched that movie, right.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I'm the bad guy?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
How did you have that on standby? Oh my god? Yeah,
that's that movie. Is something else. That's remark that is
a good movie, all right?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Three or three seven, three, eighty five, eighty five, five, six,
six nine zero or Kway comments Barry health text line.
The Buffalo Bills are now at the Patriots thirty three,
trailing by three.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's been a good game.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Though kind of sloppy, a lot of penalties. It's I
don't know, we'll sort of see what happens. Josh Allen
does convert a past Dalton k k who's been really good.
Last year kind of seemed like a bit of a
lost year for Dalton Kinkaid. He's really battled back. He's
been pretty consistent for this off and he's got five
catches for eighty five yards. You know, that was an
interesting one because don't conc to force draft in the
first round. A lot of high expectations when you're a

(38:07):
guy draft in the first round, much like our guy
Jade Baron.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
So everybody's sitting you're like, well, your first.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Round or so, you should be a day one stud
if not Pro Bowl or All Pro.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
That's just not what Advance does. Like he brings rookies
along really slowly. And you know people, you know, Pats
or Tam wouldn't start right away. That's not the Advanced
Joseph thing. But I'm just saying like there's you know,
you go back and look at the Advance's history, and
he just he brings young guys along real slow. He
just does not have a trust in rookies for whatever reason.
And I think that's that's a byproduct of the aggressive

(38:38):
style of defense that they play. Means that if one
little thing breaks, you're in a bad way. And so
I think he just does not He's slow to trust
young players until they prove themselves over and over in practice.
I don't think it's a reflection on where Jada is
as a player. I think it's more of a reflection
of who Vance Joseph is as a coordinator. All right,
we will come back.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
We'll keep you updating on Sunday football with the Bills
and the Patriots, Ryan Edwards, Benjamin all Bright, well right
back on the KIAE Broncos Radio Network hands he's off
to Trevion Henderson. Traylon Henderson hasn't really popped quite yet
for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
He looked really good in preseason.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Once again, before you say anything that's preseason, I understand,
and I'm just saying that there was a lot of expectation.
He was drafted relatively high, and Totio Gibson, by the way,
ended up getting injured on kickoff. So he's out of
this game, so as Ramondre Stevenson and Travion Henderson.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
But I've been a little I mean this is again
sort of an acknowledgement.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Sometimes when it comes to rookie players, really all players,
but including running backs, sometimes it takes a little bit
of time to get to get going, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, I mean it sometimes it does. As we've seen,
I guess from two seasons of bon Nicks. Can take
you a few games, can take you a little bit
of in a game to get going as far as
this stuff goes, So certainly I think one of the
Texters texted in something, but I know this can't be right,
and with all due respect, to the three or seven.
I'm not trying to throw you out of the bus
or anything. Said. The only time Broncko came back down
two or more touchdowns on the road before today was

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Peyton Manning against the Chargers in twenty twelve. I know
that can't be right. The Broncos were down twenty one
to seven in Chicago to the Bears. What it when
Russ brought him back with seven? Remember they did? They
came back when that one. Russ had seven points to
the third quarter and seventeen points the fourth quarter and
the Broncos won thirty one to twenty eight. Well, they
had a defensive touchdown in that one of those was Yeah,
Cooper had the fumble recovery, but Cortland scored a touchdown,

(40:23):
and I want to say Brandon Johnson maybe had the
other touchdown in that one. Yeah, maybe I have to
go back and look, I'm not a hundred on that,
but I know I know Russ did it at least once.
That's what I said. I know Russell Wilson did it
at least once, and I thought more than that, but
I know he did at least once. So No, that
twenty twelve stat not correct. From the three or seven.

(40:43):
With all due respect, and I'm not trying to again
throw you out of the bus. I'm just saying, like
I know for a fact that Russ brought us back
from two touchdowns down. So that's an incredible catch by
Stefon Diggs. By the way, the toe drag watched this thing,
he's like horizontal to the field.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Ridiculous catch. He's now got seven catches for ninety three yards.
As the Patriots are trying to hold on to a
win year, that'd be a big win. I mean, but
the Bills are the only undefeated team right now. Under
that's that what you have.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Oh yeah, I was on the under on this, but yeah,
this is one of those This is one of those
games that's way under. By the way, our Vikings Browns
game didn't quite hit the under.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
No, I know.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
You're both.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
We were both of the Vikings, although you were on
the Browns plus three and a half.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
That didn't ended up working either. But yeah, because of
the Vikings to the plus thir and a half, it
ended up being four. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I was like, ah, you talked about heartbreakers last night
the CEU game. If you had gotten in at CU
plus thirteen and a half, which somebody in this room did.
And that final touchdown, yeah, covered by fourteen. Oh just
hurt feelers. Oh was so sick. It was bad enough
to lose that game and and certainly frustrating, but to

(41:53):
lose that game and lose the cover was.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, it was gross.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, today, some wild outcomes, especially in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You. By the way, I'll get to put the cap
to you. You you covered.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
You did a pretty good job in the morning slate,
Like you were on the Saints today against the Giants.
You're on the Cowboys versus the Jets. That's partly your
hatred of the Jets and Justine Fields.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Hatred of anything. It's just a recognition that Justin Fields
sucks out loud. You were on the Texans over the Ravens,
so give you that one. You were on the Dolphins.
I was on the Dolphins side of that one in
the Miami Oh God, they choked that thing away. Yeah,
that was what else? And they were up seventeen nothing,
and then they were up again, like twenty four to
twenty I think it was. They still found a way
to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
So the morning slate was actually pretty good for you overall,
a couple of misses, but mostly mostly good bye way.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
How about my guy Rico Daubtle? God, God, what do
you have?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Two hundred something yards? Two hundred and six rushing yards?
And then he had what did he have receiving?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
He ever see?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I know he had over too and on the ground
though he also had three catches for twenty eight though,
so two hundred and almost two hundred and forty yards.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Could ever even go back to you, Hubbard? At this point, I.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Mean, none of Freako Daddle was going to continue to
do something like that. But anyways, the morning slow was
good for you. The afternoon slate, on the other hand.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It wasn't bad for me. But man, it was some.
It was some Titans. The Titans beaten the Arizona had
the biggest choke of the day. I don't even I
still don't understand how they lost that game. It was
up twenty one to six, with Dean Marcato about to
cross the busting a seventy yard or drop the ball.
Crossing the end Zon would have made it twenty eight
to six, and somehow managed to just lose that thing.

(43:31):
The the interception. It was all tight. You intercept cam
Ward and then fumble the interception away. The ball bounces
off four people, rolls into the end zone and Tyler
Lockett falls on it.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Ow and once again Dean Marcado like, as you mentioned,
fumbling in at.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
The goal line. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we just had.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
An example this last week. So you used to mention
Jonathan Taylor, which was last year. We had an example
of eighty Mitchell doing it this last week last week. Yeah,
it's like happened twice now in two weeks.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
You're either coaching something or you're allowing it to happen.
And that's a comment I'm making about a friend. Yeah,
we're both on the Bucks.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I was on the wrong side of Washington Chargers. So
how dare I doubt my commander in chief Dan Quinn?
I had the Commanders. How dare I? I actually wondered
because I was so high on the Commanders in that game,
because the last time, the last time I was high
on the Commanders, and that was the Packers game.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
You were like, I am the opposite of that. The
Packers are going to win this game, and I own
Quinn and I did not heed your advice. So this
morning when we did, which was like twelve thirteen hours ago.
At this point, which is about three six five opening lied,
I was like, oh no, I'm on the commander's side
of this thing. That might be bad, but they really
did control this thing. I mean, I was You're right.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
It was ten quarter and then and then it was
all Commanders threast the way. Once Kwan Martin got that fumble,
the entire premise of the game changed. And then the
Commanders still had a you know, the Chargers still had
a chance at this thing. They were they were on
the one yard line, and for whatever reason, Greg Roman
is dialing up pass plays instead of just punching you
got justin Herbert back there, just to a touch push

(45:04):
and get that thing in there. They're dialing up pass
plays and Standard still or whatever picked him off, and
then it was over. After that.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I like this text, of course, the end of the night.
People are so funny, too funny. The Broncos are nowhere
near a playoff team. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
Bonis will never play in the Super Bowl. Worst quarterback
in the league.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
All right, the first thing is kind of silly, but
I'll let you go with that to be in your opinion,
like nowhere near a playoff team. We don't know that.
I mean they look like a playoff team to me,
blind squirrel, okay whatever, Bonix may never play a Super Bowl.
I'll give you that worst quarterback in the league, bro,
We're playing the worst quarterback in the league coming up
in Justin Fields. Justin Fields make Russell Wilson look like

(45:45):
Joe Montana. He's so bad. I just I do not understand.
I remember when people wanted us like, we're upset, we're
up one to fire George Payton because he drafted Patzertan
the raiding defensive play of the year, over Justin Fields,
a running back playing quarterback on his third team in
three years. Yeah, that's a real thing. Wolf. I just

(46:12):
I don't get it, man.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I mean, maybe you're not a Broncos fan, and that's fine,
but also listening to a Broncos postgame show to text
in things like that, like, look, what does that say
about you? Let's just say, for instance, you're just not
a Broncos fan.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I would rather the Denver Broncos bring Tim Tebow back
than see Justin Fields play. Wow, that's a statement, that's
how bad he is. At least Tebow won games.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
All right, we got more of your texts coming up next.
We got a call on hold as well. We gotta
take a quick break though. Well bright back on the
KWA Broncos radio network. If you ask Eagles fans when
all of a sudden, the refs decided not to call
any flags for any holding or pass interference, but there
were moments where for Pastor Tan as well for Riley
Moss that it felt like every single time they had
a pass breakup is gonna be some kind of penalty.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, how about my guy Nick Benito? Man? How about
Nick playing the city? He got paid and he's not
fat and happy. He's out there earning the contract. That
dude's trying to hit those escalators. He's goin to hit
them too.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Remandra Stevenson punching into another touchdown, much to my chagrin.
The Patriots are up twenty to ten over the Bills,
twelve ten left in the fourth, so we might see
our last undefeated go down, and then Miami gets to
pop the champagne bottles.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, and there's only one team that's all losses this season.
I won't mention that team and their crappy quarterback anymore.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
But the Jets at five and three at home, that's
just that's brutal. Man Like you brought in Justin Fields,
and again it's hope.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's the hope that kills you. Why would there be
hope with Justin Fields, a guy who has never won
more than five games in an entire season in his career.
I'm telling you, don't overlook the Jets this next week, Bro,
They're going to steamroll them. Okay, Strawberry Fields, Missus Field's
cookies don't matter. You're gonna be so funny this week.

(48:10):
I actually, you know what, My question is, how many
snaps is to Rod Taylor gonna get in that game?
You know what, I'm gonna be exuberant always. I'm the
driest of blankets right now. Usually I find some of
your puns pretty obnoxious and just unnecessary, But in this case,

(48:30):
I'm actually kind of excited about this week. That's gonna
be nothing but positivity all week long, as the Broncos
are going to absolutely lamb base the Jets and put
the mitt in six. George Peyton is going to show
his understudy Darren Moogie how it's done. Listen, you idiot,
this is the guy you wanted. Look at the guy
I drafted over here. I mean it's not like the

(48:51):
Jets had a lot of other options, right, I mean
they have a better option at backup right now? They
do Not to Rod Taylor is a better quarterback than
Justin Fields. Oh, I don't believe that that is you?
How can you not believe that you've seen both of
them play. I mean there was a time I might
have thought. I don't think there was a time when
you were trying to sell everybody on the Justin Field sing.

(49:12):
I remember, we all remember the North doesn't forget Ryan
pepperish far Over the course of his career, Torod Taylor
is twenty eight, twenty nine and one as a starter.
Justin Fields is fourteen and thirty three and oh in
twenty six when any team scores twenty or more points

(49:32):
on a team he's playing because he can't score. Like
I said, I'm kind of looking forward to this week,
and especially because's in light of a win, you get
a chance to really have fun not only with the win,
but also with this matchup coming up, because the Broncos
really should win this one. What do you think is
the most yards justin fields past four a season, just

(49:53):
the ballpark, the most yards in a season. Now, he's
ever pass four in season. It's the largest number of yards.
He's passed four a season. Well, he does a lot
with his legs, so sure, sure takes a lot of sacks.
Twenty eight hundred, not even close twenty five hundred in
his best season.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
But not including Ohio State though, I mean we're just
doing pro Yeah, I'm kind of college stats.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
There's like college stats we shoved at college. Cliff Kingsbury
and Timmy Chang would be would be Hall of Fame pros.
We brought up their college stats. He cares about that.
I kind of want to look up his college stats. Okay, yeah,
because you want to make yourself feel good. This is
the same guy who's best touchdown throwing season had seventeen
touchdowns his best season. Well, you are a hater, by

(50:38):
the way that season that he had the seventeen touchdowns,
so it should rip it. It just just crushing the league
with seventeen touchdowns, so eleven eleven interceptions. He led the
league in sacks with fifty five that year too. In
twenty nineteen, he passed for three thousand, two hundred and
seventy three care we did Ohio State. I could break
out Steven Montes's stats if you want to, could we
could have that there? Yeah, Arabotes was out here ripping

(50:58):
it up in Colorado. What are you doing the pros again?
This is actually some of your best work. Justin Fields stinks.
You're not gonna pretend otherwise. Oh, I'm so not. This
whole week is just gonna be me crapping on Justin Fields.
Nick Ferguson is even gonna be Okay, this is a
bit much. You mean, captain positive. If this kid's gonna

(51:20):
sit here and be like Ben, you gotta stop, you
gotta stop. Yeah, Broncos Country Tonight this week is gonna
You're gonna be glorious if you, if you, if you
are looking for Broncos positivity, there's no greater bastion of
Broncos positivity than Broncos Country Tonight this week. Well, that's
impossible because of who you are. No, no, it is.

(51:42):
You should tune in and find out. Oh I will
for at least the first half hours I'm driving home.
We're rebranding. The show is Justin Field's hate Country. Tonight,
I will say that I appreciate you just leading in
all the way, because there was a time when I
used to bring up your hatred for Justin Fields and
you'd be like, I know, hate him. I think he's fine.
I just don't think he's very I just hate that

(52:03):
he's taking opportunities away from real quarterbacks. I you know what,
I wouldn't even say, I know, I know, don't say it.
Don't say it, good God, don't say it. Don't turn
the show to politics. Show all right?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Our last segment coming up next to the gate way
Broncos Radio Network, and it actually probably was a little
too close. It was like really close it hit the hands.
I don't even whose hands did it hit?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well A. J. Brown, I think Devonte Smiths and Brown
was behind him or whatever, and they basically knocked the
ball out of each other's hands. And I saw telling
know who fon kind of there was two Broncos players
that were in on it. But it looked to me
like and I had to go back and look at
it again. But I watched it when I was watching
it right as it happened, and watch in the replays,
it looked like the two Eagles players actually got in

(52:46):
each other's way, and I don't know how you wind
up with two guys in the same spot. Normally you
want one guy by the yard back, so if there's
if there's a tip drill, he's back there to catch
the tip drill and play at the feet. So it
looked like whoever was behind there, which I think was
a j. Brown if I remember correctly, it's been a
long day, made the mistake. He should have been deeper
and sitting back and waiting for waiting for a tip up.

(53:09):
There was a moment a little little scary though, you
did see I think it was Brandon Jones as the
ball came down like swap the matumble the ball to
the ground in a very smart play by Jones, a
very alert play. Don't let that ball be in the
air any longer than you have to. But I'm pretty
sure it was aj Brown. It was in a wrong spot,
should have been about a yard behind him in the
back of the end zone.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
And I think ideally, of course, you know, the Broncos
offense closes things out on their own, and they were
really close to it. I mean, if they if they
would have had maybe a fourth and short. It would
have been interesting to see what the Broncos option would
have done. They were third and nine, remember, and Bonix
dropped back to pass. It ended up just eating it
and running some clock. But if it would have been
a fourth and short instead of kicking the field goal

(53:46):
for will let John Payton had already shown the mindset. No,
I know what I'm saying, Like you wonder because of
how aggressive he had been kicked field I'm not saying
that I wouldn't kick the field goal. I would kick
the field goal. I'm saying I wonder.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
No, don't speak shit. Is Sean Payton has listening to
this show right, he's streaming it on the flight over
to London. Do not speak that into his ear, because
then he's like, you know what, I could be more
aggressive next time. We could get both another tunny No,
because he wouldn't want to listen to you for three
hours and that's no offense to you. That's just an Again.
He needs to know what I'm saying, so that he
controlled me like that's his whole Is that what it is?
It's every game is just trolling me, me, me, me,

(54:27):
more me and me too. Imagine being that's full of yourself.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
The Buffalo Bills just drove down the field Josh Allen
touchdown to Keon Coleman. So now is the twenty seventeen game.
Patriots up by three with seven thirty seven remaining in
the gable. See what Drake may can do here. Stefan
Diggs is on a heater. Nine catches for one hundred
and thirty four yards against his former team. You knew
they were going to find a way, a concerted effort

(54:52):
to get him the ball tonight. It's it's weird how
he takes this situation personally, but I think that that's
kind of indicative of most players and former players. It's
always a chip on your shoulder, whether it's creative or wise.
Because he has some great seasons there with the Bills,
but it was clearly time for them to move on,
just as much as it was for him to eventually
now find his way to the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I'm not saying he's the Chauncey Gardner Johnson of the
offense or anything, but there's a time there's a time limit.
There's an expiration date on Stefan Diggs with any football team,
and you know he'd kind of reached it with the Bills,
and I think he wanted to come back and make
a statement tonight. Well, they're gonna get in a chance.
I mean, hopefully we'll see if they can close this
game out.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
But they'll get another chance, obviously to play this team
a little bit later on the season. You come back
to the division that the Bills were in, the Houston Texans.
Probably could use him just throwing that out there. But
they gotta win today. They're on their streak. Big win today,
big win today on the road against Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
All right, that does for us. Thank you Ben for
hanging out. I appreciate you coming in for the final
three hours of my six and a half seven hour
run here. I've been Nevlinson obviously, one of think, Dave Logan,
Rick Lewis, Susie Wards and Allen Jackson, Justin Trahio, Nick
Ferguson and Jojo Turnbo Bench, Ben Ali Bright, Zach Segers,
Dave Temper, Brenda Egger, Mike Urby, Anthony Rodriguez, Grand Smith,

(56:05):
and my guys, Shannon's Scott.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Wonderful job today. As always, Thank you to the listeners
as well. We'll be back tomorrow. Three o'clock for KA sports.
Have a great night,