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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fellas. Good to see both of you. Alfred, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm doing well, man, Just a beautiful day out here
on this Monday. Is this a third Monday, a second
Monday of October? This is the third Monday, third Monday
of October. And we got this unbelievable weather here and
in the afternoon. Kind of kind of crappy this morning,
but beautiful this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I got all sorts of questions about your squirrel over
the weekend. I'll get to that in a second. Dave,
my friend, how are you living a dream?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Doing well?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Doing well?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
We would nobroncos this weekend. It was weird.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It was. It was a weird, weird deal.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But we got to watch the Buffalos absolutely clean up
on Arizona.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
How about them, Buffalo's fellas.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And that was a really really, really really fun day
of college football. And tell you what, man, the way
that they won was in a boring fashion, which I'm
not used to seeing out of them, which means that
there's a lot of growth going on with the program.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
And Alan and I were very excited about it. But
stop stop acting like you were excited about it, because
you are you are you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Are anti That's all whoa, whoa. Just be who you are.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
You're c issue guy, and that's okay, that's okay, But
don't act like you're excited.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
How are you good, David?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Now listen, man, I think I have adopted over the
course of my later years of life.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now maybe so.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I'll say it like this.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
When I was a younger man, maybe flawed in my thinking, Yeah,
I would openly root against see you by.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now last year you openly rooted against see you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So go.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
As a grown up now in my forties, I want
good college football for our state. And I've said this
for now the better part of a decade that when
CU is good and they are on the national map,
that is good for college football in our state.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
So I have adopted that. I truly believe that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I was rooting like heck for CU versus Arizona
on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Does that help?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
That really helps? Tell you what? But there's some, uh,
there's some.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There's some programs out there that are that are starting
out class other programs. And one of those programs, Man,
I got a chance to see man was Georgia. Man,
Georgia just running rough shot, I mean running rough shot
over Texas. From the beginning of that game, Dave, I
don't know how.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Much you saw. Ryan called it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It was evident that they were bigger upfront, they were
quicker at the running back and wide receiver position, and
they were it felt like they were hungrier for that moment.
And something happened in that game which I thought was crazy.
Quinn yours was substituted for bench Yes, Yes, Manning, and I.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Just thought to myself, that is if you are.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
If you're in the yours camp, that that is probably
the worst thing that possibly could have happened to year
going into the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I watched the whole game too. I think two
things struck me.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
One, Georgia was like a four point underdog, and I'm thinking,
have they forgotten how good Georgia is?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
And I think in the last forty eight I think
it's forty eight or forty nine games, Georgia has lost
twice and both of those were to Alabama. Nobody else
has beaten Georgia, So I expected Georgia to bounce back
after you know that that disappointing game. But you know,
the yours thing. I have never been and maybe I'll
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come around. I'm I I have not been a guy
that has said, oh, he's he's going to be a
top five pick. I just haven't And maybe I haven't
seen enough of him, right, but he just he's not
athletic enough in in like today's NFL for him to
step out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So so he's a I think he's a.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Good player pocket passer though, And nowadays, I mean, how
many of those guys, Yeah, I mean there's a few
of them, but there's more guys like you know, we've
seen in the league recently that can get out of
trouble and still throw the football. And I don't know
that Quinn yours is even close to me in that
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kind of athlete.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well times, he's had such great talent around him, and
Bjon Robinson, ad Ni Mitchell, Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, you go down the list.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I mean, it's the same conversation we typically get into
with Ohio State and Alabama. Right when you have just
these unbelievable juggernaut universities that are surrounded by first rounders
up and down the lineup, especially on offense, it becomes
sort of difficult to know exactly how good these guys,
are I kind of split the difference I think between
the two of you and Quinny Ewers, Like I sort
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of see it. I see it at times, but I
don't see it enough to your point, Dave, I just
don't see it consistently enough where I say, yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Absolutely, take that guy inside the top five.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And don't even look another direction, you know, I mean,
And that's kind of the same conversation I'm sartin to
have about Jalen Milroe with Alabama. Yeah, I mean, he
had another struggle game. They should have lost three straight. Like, legitimately,
Alabama should have lost three straight games. They got by
the skin of their teeth last week against sc But
let's be honest here, some of these guys that were
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the haunted Heisman favorites coming into the year, it just
it just hasn't hasn't.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Looked that way.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And meanwhile, you know, Travis Hunter going back to see
you for just a second, and Travis Hunder didn't play
the second half of that game. He obviously was banged
up last week against KSU.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean, you're.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Starting to wonder a little bit about his Heisman candidacy
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are we really talking about that Heisman Canada candidacy or
are we talking about team success with the University of Colorado. Well,
I mean, because I think they they're not the same conversation.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
They're not necessarily the same conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But we came into the year and there have been
times where we're saying, you can have both, but sometimes
you can't. And we wondered by the fact that they
were playing him both ways if that would eventually lead
to a bit of an injury and the fact they'd
have to shut him down. Dave, I mean, I don't
know if you view that the same way or not.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Well, I mean I don't think. Yes, I do think
those are two separate conversations.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I mean, I think Travis is the best player in
the country.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is he gonna win the Heisman?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
I think I think the Buffs are gonna have to
continue winning and he's gonna have to get healthy and
have some big plays at big moments because he's he's
a unicorn. I mean, from from a Heisman voting standpoint,
nobody's ever seen anything like this kid. So a lot
of times that sort of thing really prevents you, I think,
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from embracing him totally because you don't. You don't know
what you're looking at. To me, he's the best player,
the best player in the country. But the Buffs are
gonna have to hold up their end of it if
if he's gonna have a legitimate chance to win it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
The kid from Miami, I think.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
The quarterback is is probably and uh you know what,
and I yep, I poo pood your Boise State guy.
I don't think he's gonna win it. But I did
have a chance to watch him. Man, that joker is
hard to get in the ground. Yes, he is attack allance. Yes,
you know, I talked. I talked about waiting for that jent.
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I talked about him a little bit. I think, like
this is my fourth week in a row. Ryan told
me about him after.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Week three and I was just like, okay, okay. And
then I looked at the Oregon game. How he really
gave them business. I mean one ninety two on the
ground against that team. Oregon, by the way, is a
number one ranked team in the AP Pole. Right now,
you know, and college football is different right now, you know,
we have twelve teams that are going to be part
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of the playoff conversation. This this thing is taking a
totally different look than it ever has in the past,
and teams with two losses right now may be in it,
you know what I'm saying, Like they clearly could be
in it, University of Colorado being one of those teams.
But maybe we're talking about a team with a three
loss record in the SEC being part of this twelve
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team roundtable here in a couple of three months. This
absolutely is the best thing for people like me and
you guys who love college football, because you're still in it.
And I think if you start looking at it through
that lens, you know, you start seeing schools like Navy,
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who is by the way undefeated right and playing a
brand of football that is not being seen because now
they're throwing the football, and you start seeing all of
these pieces start to come together. It's gonna be hard
to beat this kid gentye Man, I mean the kid
at Boise State.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He's a wrecking ball.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't know if a kid runs for in a
twelve game season, if a kid runs for two hundred
yards a game, so we're talking about twenty four twenty
five hundred yards in college football, that's your Heisman Trophy winning.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's got to be in the conversation, and certainly I
am just proud as a show that you guys are
finally on my level.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
That's really what this comes down.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I told you guys about him weeks ago, and finally
Dave the Flowers.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Listen, man, it's not even my birthday, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Hey, listen, I I admit that I think I overlooked
him to start. I do not think he's going to
win the Heisman. I'll tell you that right now. I
think I think I think the quarterback from Miami is
a guy that unless something happens to him, I think
he's probably the guy that's that's going to win it.
But that kid, uh, and then they running back of boys,
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he's a hell of a player.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
He's a hell of a player, no, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I would a nine point nine yards touch a touch
in the running game.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
He would be the seventh leading rusher in the country
after contact. Now that's the stat that when you're like, wait,
I couldn't have read that run.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Why I went back and looked at it. I said,
is that right?
Speaker 6 (09:45):
The seventh leading rusher in the country after contact.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I mean, that's that's a lot of yards you know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
This, this game that they're playing this week is gonna
happen on a Friday, And that's one I think that
I'm I'm I'm shooting for the Boise State un l
V game in uh Las Vegas at the New Raider Stadium.
I have a friend of mine who played at the
University of Colorado O c Oliver's son is a starting
cornerback for uh the UNLV Rebel football team, and minus
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just uh, I think four or five points U n
LV would be undefeated as well. I mean, that's a
that's a big matchup. And this is probably this is
probably the reason that the Pac twelve is going after
a school like u n LV and and and and
Boise State is is prominently in the Big twelve.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Now that that is.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean, I just these these conferences and the
realignment it's going to change within the next what the
next year or so, because this this this championship series
that we have now is slated for two seasons, and
then after the two seasons, there is another conversation that's
going to happen about how you crown the college football season.
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And with that, I think that's when we're going to
have the Super Conference of fifty to seventy teams and
that's it. And you know, I think the conversation has
been had out there about relegation. If you're not up
to snuff, then you get kicked out, which I think
is the absolute best thing for college football. If you
are part of this elite group and you're you've traditionally
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been part of a conference, and you don't hold up
your end, you're out.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I want to go back to the buffs here for second, Dave.
And the thing that sticks out to me, not only
about this game, but the way they've played all year,
is just how good the defense is. I think we
knew the offense was gonna be good, right, I mean, sure, Sanders.
You know, there's so much talent with the receiving corps.
We didn't know if they were gonna be able to
run the ball, but they're starting to figure that part
out of it, which is really really cool. But man,
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you talk about seven sacks and the way they just
shut down, which is by the way, McMillan is going
to be one of the top ten receivers going in
the draft this next year for Arizona. Get five catches
for thirty eight freaking yards.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I mean, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Say, coming into this game, I legitimately thought it was
going to be a shootout.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I think the over under was somewhere in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, sixty five something, I think.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And to go thirty four to seven, thoroughly dominate them
in every possible facet.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
This win was just unbelievable for me.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Yeah, you don't mean he's gonna be in the top
ten of wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You mean he's a top ten. He'll be the first
receiver taken.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
He might be one of the top receivers taken.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, I agree with you on that, and I do.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think it's a good point about the defense because
and when you used down think how bad this defense
was last year, and I know they got to I mean,
they got so many guys in that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I can't even All I do is root for what's
on front of.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
The jersey, right, I can't figure honestly, gosh, I can't
figure out who's playing. It really doesn't matter to me
as long as they're were in a CU helmet and
representing CEU the right way.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'm pulling for SEU.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
But the defense has really stepped up and they are so.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So much better than they were last year. And I
also think this, I think you got to say the c.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Running game has improved a lot, and their patients to
sort of stay with the running game. I think they've
become more balanced, which is just going to make Schadure
and that set of receivers even much more difficult to
deal with.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, I think coach Livingston, who came over from the
Cincinnati Bengals, has really really done a good job of simplifying,
simplifying the defense and making it making it something that.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
You can get used to. And this is this is
a clear.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Indication that what we were doing last year is was garbage.
I mean, it's just I mean, the athletes haven't changed
that much. I talked about the coordination last year and
how it was clumsy and how it was just too
difficult for the for the guys to learn. I remember, now,
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you had a brand new defensive coordinator to come in
last year and put in a defense, and guess what,
you had a new defensive coordinator to come in just
the following So it's not like you, you know, these
kids got to learn the same defense.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Two years in a row.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now this is a different defense, and they've taken to
it and the principles from everything that I understand about it,
have this been standard basic principles about how to play defense.
And it's just made a huge difference. And I just
don't understand sometimes. You know, we talked about this a
little bit with just looking at Sean Payton and his
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offensive sets and why do you send so many different
packages in like do you have to have this substitution
or do you have to do it this way? And
you know what, I look at the University of Colorado's
defense last year as a similar process. You know, you
had all these trap defenses, You had these special coverages
that maybe you were used to using when you at Alabama,
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and it's no longer. You don't have the three year
four year started at remembers those concepts, and I think
coach Livingston went and what he's done this.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Year is just man on point man. And then if
there's a.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
If there's a candidate for a head coach out of
this staff, it would be him, you.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Know, looking at the rest of the schedule, I gotta
be honest, and again maybe I'm I'm just over the
moon at the way that they have turned things around,
especially as you mentioned, Dave, with the running game this season.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
If you have in front of you Ryan the people
that don't. They've got five games left. They got five games,
three of them at home.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Okay, but starting this Saturday hosting Cincinnati their four points
favorites in that game, another eight fifteen game at all.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I know you like that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Then they got at.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Texas Tech home against Utah, who, by the way, won't
have Cam rising, I don't think, yep, at Kansas and
then home against Oklahoma State. I'm not saying run the table,
because I think that that seems hyperbolic in its nature.
But the same time, I don't hate their matchups in
really any of these games.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Am I am? I out of my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Here, No, you're not. I think that. I think what
really makes this intriguing to me.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
You know, I have to continually remind friends, not a
lot of them, but a couple of them, like where
this thing was, you know, eighteen months ago, where this
was two years ago? Right, it just doesn't happen overnight.
But I think the interesting thing about this the last
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part of the schedule, all five of those games they
could win. I mean I think they really could win.
Being a four point favorite at home against Cincinnati. That's
no guarantee there, right, So the odds makers are thinking
it's going to be a pretty close game. So the
Buffs have got to stay focused week by week because
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
They could win all of them.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
And also, I don't think there's one game on that
schedule that if they they didn't come out and play
that they could lose, right, So they I think they
can win all of them.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But every single week.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Has got to be like little things and important stuff
and stay on your p's and q's and play your
best ball.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, the game that you know, it kind of
sticks out to me is the Oklahoma State game. It
sticks out to me for one reason that is unique
with the rest of the schedule that's being announced already,
it's already got us kicktime if the kicktime is at
ten am, and that's I don't know. I don't know
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that that's an early kicktime for Bowl to Colorado, But
apparently that has got to be something that they've worked
out with the networks. But the rest of them are
TBD to be determined. And that has been the storyline
of the University of Colorado Weekly Outlook since They've played
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a good brand of football because everybody wants to see them.
And what was impressive impressive about the University of Colorado
and their fandom. Not only am I getting phone calls
and emails and text messages from friends who want to
come and be part of this story, which is bizarre
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to me.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean, it is just it's bizarre. I mean it is.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think that coach Prime has his fan base of
people out there in the United States that want to
come and be part of this story. And people want
to say that they went to the Colorado game, and
it's it's it's a it's it's the weirdest thing that
ever happened since I've been part of football, because I've
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been part of some pretty damn spectacular teams and I
just don't believe that I had anything like this as
far as a hype machine. I mean, we were undefeated
as an NFL team going into what week thirteen days
with the Broncos, Yes, and uh, we didn't get this
kind of we didn't get this kind of of coverage,
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you know, and it's it's just it's incredible. I don't
know what's going on here, but I like it because
it's it's leading us and landing us some big recruits.
But with that, nobody knows what time the games are. Like,
I think I kind of took it for granted that
to see you Buff was gonna play at one o'clock
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on a Saturday when they were at.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Home to ten am start might be the big I mean,
this is how listen, we have three college football fans
here doing the show, right, I mean we all we
all love football in general, college football in particular for sure,
and none of us, I mean the ten am start
would mean that is that is that game on Fox?
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Because that would that would be the prime that would
be the prime slot, I believe on Fox from a
Nashville it's an.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
ABC, so that that's an ABC game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So I then I don't know, I'm not sure kind
of what that says.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's the that's the Thanksgiving weekend week right, I mean,
I mean that's a big that's a big college that
that's the Ohio State Michigan weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well, it's a Friday. It's a Friday game. It's a Friday, Friday,
November twenty ninth. It's not even a Saturday game.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, that's after Thanksgiving, right that used to be to
see you Nebraska weekend. Yes, yes, Now it's Oklahoma State.
So that's a ten am start on Friday, Black Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Huh Yeah, all right, man, I mean this is yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like I said, this is all of this is all
of this is new man, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You got regulations. You got to plan your your Friday accordingly.
I know you you were going to go back on
Black Friday and give back some of those flannel shirts.
But I would think you'd want to watch the CU
game instead at that.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Time of year.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Dave, I'm only doubling up.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'll figure it out in the spring, or maybe I'll
just keep them all for the next fall. I mean,
there's the reality is they never really go out of style.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Apparently.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That is apparently, so that's not I'm not that's not
necessarily true.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I tried to sum cool.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, year round flannel and and honestly it starts
with a spark, fellas.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
It starts with one person.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Saying, park around, get your ass on fire, gona happen? Alright,
we ared live.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
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Speaker 5 (21:29):
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Speaker 1 (21:31):
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you mentioned big Al. When we come back, we're getting
text about it. I know we gott to get to it.
Russell Wilson made his debut last night for the Steelers.
We will talk about it next. So Russell Wilson last night,
I mean it was okay, it was all right.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
They went.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
They went thirty seven to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's a combination of the defense doing a good job
and the Jets imploding. I don't know, I I I
want to give Russell Wilson flowers. A lot of people
are very excited about his performance, but I'm probably the wrong.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Person to ask.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I'll go to you first. What did you think about
Russell Wilson last night?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I actually I thought he did okay, I mean I
really did. I thought the start of it was like,
oh boy, this this is not going to turn out
to be good. I thought his receivers made some really
good catch catches. I thought pickings, you know, pickings on
a couple of catches, and he's known for that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Uh, but but he was big.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
He had the he had the one where he kind
of held off the defender with his left arm and
caught it with his right arm, first big play of
the game for the Steelers passing the ball, and then
he had the juggling effort that he bobbled two or
three times, caught that. Friarmuth also had a really nice
one handed catch. So to me, it was confounding the
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way the Jets continued to play defense with him. I mean,
it's easy, you know, to sit back and say, Okay,
why would they do that? And that's exactly what I'm doing.
Why why would you not make Russ. Russ wants to
throw the ball deep, and if you're going to come
up and press guys and play zero all the time,
you're just inviting that ball to go deep.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And he's a good enough deep ball thrower.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
To me, I'm playing off and I'm making him read
and throw the ball in the interior part of the field.
But credit, I mean credit the Steelers, and I you know,
I wasn't unhappy for Russ that he came out and
and it worked out for him.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I really thought that that Russell Wilson and his
debut was gonna fall flat on his face because the
NFL is a fast moving place, and I didn't think
that he had to requisite amount of snaps to jump
in in week seven and just step in without having
really any preseason action or no real action for the
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last six weeks. And I thought that, well, for him
to play right now, he's got to be one hundred
percent healthy.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Like this has got to be.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
This has got to be what the storyline is like.
He can run, he can scramble, and of course he
can he can run, he can scramble, but the speed
of the league usually gets to you when you are
coming back from an injury. And Dave, you and I
both know that it's unrelenting in that matter. When you
when you when you are coming back from injury, you go, damn.
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You know that guy's moving fast now, you know, and
you got to get back jump in the fast.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm not trying to come back. I'm done trying to
come back.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But I remember what it was like, like, oh my goodness, man,
I'm just not quite ready yet. So I thought that
would be the effect that asn't. Matter of fact, I
picked the Jets to win because I thought that would
be the case. But I thought they did a good
job of mixing it up. And I think that this
is the difference between having a guy who is down
for you and Mike Tomlin versus a guy who wants
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you out of here, and that was Sean Payton. Think
I think that's the I think that's the difference that
you're seeing. And there's no real reason why Justin Fields
shouldn't be the starter right now. There's I mean, he
gave him the team at four and two, so I mean,
this is this is almost this is in my opinion,
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this is forced for no reason. And Russell must have
been looking great in practice and that's the only way
that you can make this move.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Think that's a really good point.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I go ahead, Dave, Sorry, Ron, I think the only
thing that I would say, and I think Justin does
everything better than Russell at this point of Russell's career
except throw the deep ball. And I think when you
look at the Steelers production, even though they were four
and two going into last night's game, only only one
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touchdown pass to a wide receiver. So Russell has been
two things in his career that he's been able to do.
He's done a bunch of good things before he got here,
but he's been a really good deep ball thrower and
he's been a guy that can throw on the move.
And so the boot boot was back in that game.
He made some accurate throws for the most part while moving,
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and you're gonna get with him in the game. You're
gonna get three, four, five moonshots down the field. And
then it becomes if you're just gonna play that kind
of coverage, it becomes my guy's better than your guy.
In a lot of cases, Pickens is going to be
better than whomever is covering, including Sauce Gardner a couple
of times. So I think it's fascinating to say, but
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there were times where in that game early I thought
had he taken off, had that been justin feels, he
would have taken off and run for thirty five yards.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, And that's such a good point too, because and
I'm not saying the Jets defense quit, but they are
not playing to the level that we're used to seeing, right,
I mean, they're just something not quite happening there.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Two teams.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's two teams, man, I mean that's really I mean,
that's two teams that we've actually seen that have given
that kind of effort. I mean the Saints, right, and
a team that we just played, and the Jets both
have given that kind of effort, right, I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Just and it never really banged up in the back end.
I mean, they're missing five dbs. The Jets were.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Moley back yet.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean, and I think that you know, if there
was one person that defined their defense is probably the
middle linebacker. You know that that was playing lights out
football last year and has been done. And I mean
with that Ryan, I mean, I don't see any any
toughness in that team.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I take that back.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
He did play last night, so he was good.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But again, you're right, I mean upfront defensively, I mean,
they were just a bit of a sieve. And the
thing about it, to Dave's point, like you knew what
the Steelers ultimately we're gonna try to do. Right, They're
gonna surround Russell Wilson with a good running game, Right,
You're gonna take some deep shots, and it just seemed
like for the Jets that they were content to let
him have it and and that part was a little
puzzling for me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
And there were some wide open breakdowns in the back end.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I mean, they even acknowledged it on the broadcast last night, say, hey,
I mean, you're you get down this decimated when the secondary,
this is what's gonna happen. You're gonna have some miscommunication.
Guys are gonna run wide open. Again, that's not Russell
Wilson's fault. That's not the Pittsburgh Steelers fault. That they're
just out there playing their game. I do think it's
a little overblown because people are like, oh, it's the
highest point total of the season. Well, let's worked thirty
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two points last week, so it's really I mean, we're
talking what I mean. And honestly, the defense could have
had a pick six there if Devantae Adams didn't have
that extra effort where he dove on the backs of
the legs of the guy that had the interception.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
It was just it was a weird night in a
lot of ways, right.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I mean, I don't think any less necessarily of the Jets,
other than on the defensive side of the ball in
the effort that I saw, and simultaneously I don't think
the Pittsburgh Steelers have somehow found the elixir that they're
going to be one of the best offenses in the league.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I don't know, Dave, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I think one thing about Pittsburgh, They've always been all
and al Briefly played against him twice a year, and
I forever played against them twice a year, and it's
carried over decades later. They're always physically tough. They're always
going to test you on both sides of the ball.
And I saw a team last night that just started
to wear the Jets down and physically imposed their will
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on them. And the other thing I would say is,
I mean, you know you're paying receivers a lot of
money with the Jets. How about you guys catch the ball.
The ball's bouncing off the chest and up in the air.
Were turned down to the one. I mean, it's you know,
I thought Aaron made a questionable throw. Bad throw on
the first pick. He tried to fit it in against
two men and tried to throw it, I mean right
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through a defender, which he's done from time to time.
But the one to Garrett Wilson, my gosh, I mean,
that couldn't have been placed any better and he still
bobbled it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I couldn't tell if Wilson, Garrett Wilson was surprised by
the ball.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
It was a weird deal, Dave.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I mean, when a ball bounces right off the chest pock,
I couldn't tell.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
If it was deflected. It was deflected even a little bit.
It does tend to throw the trajectory and just for
a moment your concentration off a little. But looking at
the replay, I don't think it was. And maybe Garrett
anticipated that ball being deflected because it was really really close,
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and that that can happen too. But listen, man, you're
you're a highly paid professional receiver. You got to catch
that ball for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
You know, real quick.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Before before we get to a break here, I got
to talk about what's happening with the Kansas City Chiefs, and.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
We're definitely gonna talk about the Chiefs today.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
What they're doing right now with playing average to below
average offense is unbelievable. We may be looking at possibly
a team that's gonna go back to the Super Bowl
if if they stay healthy and it's it's incredible because
Patrick Mahomes, I think, do it for like one fifty yesterday.
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And even though he only threw for like one fifty
one sixty yesterday, it felt like the defense just kept
making big play aff the big play. Hey man, We've
been talking about the Kansas City Chiefs and in their
offense this entire time. For the last three, four or
five years, we have not really given flowers to that defense.
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And that defense over there is starting to cause a
lot of problems for a lot of teams. And they're
winning right now because their defense is keeping them.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
I agree, contest, I agree. The defense I mean has
been playing lights out. Second consecutive game that Mahomes did
not throw a touchdown pass, which when you think about
his career, that's almost unheard of. And yet they're unbeaten.
That is not good news for everybody else in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Safely unbeaten. I mean, they won that game handily yesterday.
Even twenty eighteen doesn't really tell us the full picture.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
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Speaker 5 (32:02):
That conversation on the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You know, there's a several takeaways on that game yesterday,
the Super Bowl rematch. First of all, the forty nine
ers are gonna be in trouble here for a bet,
They're gonna be without Brandon Ayu for the rest of
the season. Deebo Samuel got hurt in that game, and
I was good to see Ricky Piersoll back out there,
but they.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
That storyline is still unbelievable to me.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Remarkable.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Mar shot in the preseason right over a bag. You know,
I'm like, you can't what kind of bag was that?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Like a Louis bag or something or whatever it was.
I mean, the kid was shot. That first round draft pick.
Uh survived it. It died, could have died a nice
playing football and rock.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Perty throwing three interceptions yesterday. The Chiefs defense is legit.
What did you think about the Patrick Mahomes scramble along
the sideline.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I thought about that and this is what I thought.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's a problem.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's a big problem.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's a problem because as a defense, you're talk if
a guy is on his way out, don't hit him,
because it's an unnecessary, an unnecessary contact with the guy
who's already heading out of bounds. And then you see
exactly then you see Patrick Mahomes pulls it in tight
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ropes the sideline over there on the left side, and
then you go, well, what is he doing? You know?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So is he ever out or is he ever down?
You know?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And so I think you just have to use different
a different set of rules with quarterbacks. And this is
what I would tell my guys if I was a
defensive coordinator sitting in a defensive coordinators meeting. There are
rules for quarterbacks when they're in the pocket, and when
they're not in the pocket.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Knock the hell out of them. I mean, I mean
you you.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Put your you put your crown and your helmet right
in the middle of their between their numbers on the jerseys,
between the one and the five. You plant your your
Rydale right in between the one and the five. You
run through him. Because this is the reason, this is
the reason quarterbacks end up feeling like they're you know, indestructible.
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You know what I'm saying. If nobody's gonna hit you,
then yeah, you have the right to just run around
the field. If you have no no running back would
have done what he did. Hell, I'm saying, every every
receiver nose, every tight end nose, if they're over there,
they're unprotected. And for some reason, you know, the guys
over there with the forty nine ers did not attack
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him when he was on the sideline because I think
they thought he was going out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Well, oftentimes he's the like the king at.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Drawing those penalties, right, right, But at the same time, Ryan,
he can't be the second leading and rusher on the
team and not taking any any big boy shots. You know,
he's not out there. You know, he's not out there
waving the white flag while he's running. He's actually running man.
So therefore I would treat him like a runner. And
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if he happens to go down, okay, that that you know,
you see that these rules, these these slide rules, those
are those are confusing to me. They are you know
what I'm saying, Like when a quarterback goes into the slide,
and then he said and then he looks, you know,
he goes into the slide and you go to for
him up on him.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know, Patrick Mahomes trucks stick the dude in the
end zone. Yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean, he just absolutely ran through a guy that
was trying to tackle him in the end zone. You
know how embarrassing that is. So you treat him like
he is a runner. He's rom now on, you know,
And I would say that about every quarterback, including our own.
If he breaks pocket, okay, and he's outside the pocket
left or right, you treat him as a guy that's
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a runner. If he crosses the line going forward, you
treat him as a runner.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Reminded memd me of Kenny Pickett at Pitt Remember.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That when he when he act like he was gonna
slide and kept going.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yes, that's exactly what it reminded me of.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And that's what I was all.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I was thinking, say, da' see, that's what I'm talking about, right,
that which showing is Patrick Mahomes. Yet that I said,
that's what I'm talking about. That's what's wrong with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And you can't blame the defender at that point because
he knows hey leave.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Him alone if he's on his way out.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
But you got to treat him like a runner.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But the problem is is the league has gone so
far to protect these quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He's not a quarterback. Then I know that you and
I know that on your quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
As a defensive player, you have that that flashes through
your head for a moment of like my gosh, what
do I do here?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Because it just upset.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Too and a lot of people out there like saying, oh.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Patrick Mahomes is amazing. Yeah, I was like, no play
should be elital Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I mean, listen, man, that's all right. You know you
just hey, listen, listen, that's all right. See you see
you get one of those. You get one of those, man,
See if you just get one of those, and then
you get into the meeting room the next week, you're
playing against the Kansas City Chiefs, and you know what
the next guy is gonna do. He's gonna dive at
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Patrick Mahomes's legs when he's on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
And then you're gonna say he's cheap, he's trying to
take him out. Nope, let me show you why he's.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Not okay, Because this guy just ran over a defensive
back and trucks sticked him and looked at him right
after he got the touchdown, like, you know, shrug them
off of him, like get off of me, right, And
then you just took off down the sideline with that
twenty five yard Robinson.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm like, what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Take him low, thirty three yard run and a turn
into thirty three.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Ye take him low, Take him low, take him out
the game, just like he would you would a running back,
or a wide receiver or a tight end. I don't
want to hear it anymore. I don't want to hear
it anymore. If a if a quarterback, if a runner
is outside the pocket, you have to treat him as
a runner.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Period.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
I don't want to hear it no more.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
We're a lying for the sporty pickle bar and grill
on Kawa
Fellas. Good to see both of you. Alfred, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm doing well, man, Just a beautiful day out here
on this Monday. Is this a third Monday, a second
Monday of October? This is the third Monday, third Monday
of October. And we got this unbelievable weather here and
in the afternoon. Kind of kind of crappy this morning,
but beautiful this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I got all sorts of questions about your squirrel over
the weekend. I'll get to that in a second. Dave,
my friend, how are you living a dream?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Doing well?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Doing well?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
We would nobroncos this weekend. It was weird.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It was. It was a weird, weird deal.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But we got to watch the Buffalos absolutely clean up
on Arizona.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
How about them, Buffalo's fellas.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And that was a really really, really really fun day
of college football. And tell you what, man, the way
that they won was in a boring fashion, which I'm
not used to seeing out of them, which means that
there's a lot of growth going on with the program.
Speaker 6 (00:50):
And Alan and I were very excited about it. But
stop stop acting like you were excited about it, because
you are you are you.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Are anti That's all whoa, whoa. Just be who you are.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
You're c issue guy, and that's okay, that's okay, But
don't act like you're excited.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
How are you good, David?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Now listen, man, I think I have adopted over the
course of my later years of life.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Now maybe so.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I'll say it like this.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
When I was a younger man, maybe flawed in my thinking, Yeah,
I would openly root against see you by.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now last year you openly rooted against see you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So go.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
As a grown up now in my forties, I want
good college football for our state. And I've said this
for now the better part of a decade that when
CU is good and they are on the national map,
that is good for college football in our state.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
So I have adopted that. I truly believe that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
And I was rooting like heck for CU versus Arizona
on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Does that help?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
That really helps? Tell you what? But there's some, uh,
there's some.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There's some programs out there that are that are starting
out class other programs. And one of those programs, Man,
I got a chance to see man was Georgia. Man,
Georgia just running rough shot, I mean running rough shot
over Texas. From the beginning of that game, Dave, I
don't know how.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Much you saw. Ryan called it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It was evident that they were bigger upfront, they were
quicker at the running back and wide receiver position, and
they were it felt like they were hungrier for that moment.
And something happened in that game which I thought was crazy.
Quinn yours was substituted for bench Yes, Yes, Manning, and I.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Just thought to myself, that is if you are.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
If you're in the yours camp, that that is probably
the worst thing that possibly could have happened to year
going into the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I watched the whole game too. I think two
things struck me.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
One, Georgia was like a four point underdog, and I'm thinking,
have they forgotten how good Georgia is?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:55):
And I think in the last forty eight I think
it's forty eight or forty nine games, Georgia has lost
twice and both of those were to Alabama. Nobody else
has beaten Georgia, So I expected Georgia to bounce back
after you know that that disappointing game. But you know,
the yours thing. I have never been and maybe I'll
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come around. I'm I I have not been a guy
that has said, oh, he's he's going to be a
top five pick. I just haven't And maybe I haven't
seen enough of him, right, but he just he's not
athletic enough in in like today's NFL for him to
step out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So so he's a I think he's a.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Good player pocket passer though, And nowadays, I mean, how
many of those guys, Yeah, I mean there's a few
of them, but there's more guys like you know, we've
seen in the league recently that can get out of
trouble and still throw the football. And I don't know
that Quinn yours is even close to me in that
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kind of athlete.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well times, he's had such great talent around him, and
Bjon Robinson, ad Ni Mitchell, Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I mean, you go down the list.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I mean, it's the same conversation we typically get into
with Ohio State and Alabama. Right when you have just
these unbelievable juggernaut universities that are surrounded by first rounders
up and down the lineup, especially on offense, it becomes
sort of difficult to know exactly how good these guys,
are I kind of split the difference I think between
the two of you and Quinny Ewers, Like I sort
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of see it. I see it at times, but I
don't see it enough to your point, Dave, I just
don't see it consistently enough where I say, yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Absolutely, take that guy inside the top five.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And don't even look another direction, you know, I mean,
And that's kind of the same conversation I'm sartin to
have about Jalen Milroe with Alabama. Yeah, I mean, he
had another struggle game. They should have lost three straight. Like, legitimately,
Alabama should have lost three straight games. They got by
the skin of their teeth last week against sc But
let's be honest here, some of these guys that were
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the haunted Heisman favorites coming into the year, it just
it just hasn't hasn't.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Looked that way.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And meanwhile, you know, Travis Hunter going back to see
you for just a second, and Travis Hunder didn't play
the second half of that game. He obviously was banged
up last week against KSU.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I mean, you're.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Starting to wonder a little bit about his Heisman candidacy
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are we really talking about that Heisman Canada candidacy or
are we talking about team success with the University of Colorado. Well,
I mean, because I think they they're not the same conversation.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
They're not necessarily the same conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But we came into the year and there have been
times where we're saying, you can have both, but sometimes
you can't. And we wondered by the fact that they
were playing him both ways if that would eventually lead
to a bit of an injury and the fact they'd
have to shut him down. Dave, I mean, I don't
know if you view that the same way or not.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Well, I mean I don't think. Yes, I do think
those are two separate conversations.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I mean, I think Travis is the best player in
the country.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is he gonna win the Heisman?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
I think I think the Buffs are gonna have to
continue winning and he's gonna have to get healthy and
have some big plays at big moments because he's he's
a unicorn. I mean, from from a Heisman voting standpoint,
nobody's ever seen anything like this kid. So a lot
of times that sort of thing really prevents you, I think,
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from embracing him totally because you don't. You don't know
what you're looking at. To me, he's the best player,
the best player in the country. But the Buffs are
gonna have to hold up their end of it if
if he's gonna have a legitimate chance to win it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
The kid from Miami, I think.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
The quarterback is is probably and uh you know what,
and I yep, I poo pood your Boise State guy.
I don't think he's gonna win it. But I did
have a chance to watch him. Man, that joker is
hard to get in the ground. Yes, he is attack allance. Yes,
you know, I talked. I talked about waiting for that jent.
(07:06):
I talked about him a little bit. I think, like
this is my fourth week in a row. Ryan told
me about him after.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Week three and I was just like, okay, okay. And
then I looked at the Oregon game. How he really
gave them business. I mean one ninety two on the
ground against that team. Oregon, by the way, is a
number one ranked team in the AP Pole. Right now,
you know, and college football is different right now, you know,
we have twelve teams that are going to be part
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of the playoff conversation. This this thing is taking a
totally different look than it ever has in the past,
and teams with two losses right now may be in it,
you know what I'm saying, Like they clearly could be
in it, University of Colorado being one of those teams.
But maybe we're talking about a team with a three
loss record in the SEC being part of this twelve
(07:58):
team roundtable here in a couple of three months. This
absolutely is the best thing for people like me and
you guys who love college football, because you're still in it.
And I think if you start looking at it through
that lens, you know, you start seeing schools like Navy,
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who is by the way undefeated right and playing a
brand of football that is not being seen because now
they're throwing the football, and you start seeing all of
these pieces start to come together. It's gonna be hard
to beat this kid gentye Man, I mean the kid
at Boise State.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He's a wrecking ball.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't know if a kid runs for in a
twelve game season, if a kid runs for two hundred
yards a game, so we're talking about twenty four twenty
five hundred yards in college football, that's your Heisman Trophy winning.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's got to be in the conversation, and certainly I
am just proud as a show that you guys are
finally on my level.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
That's really what this comes down.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I told you guys about him weeks ago, and finally
Dave the Flowers.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Listen, man, it's not even my birthday, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Hey, listen, I I admit that I think I overlooked
him to start. I do not think he's going to
win the Heisman. I'll tell you that right now. I
think I think I think the quarterback from Miami is
a guy that unless something happens to him, I think
he's probably the guy that's that's going to win it.
But that kid, uh, and then they running back of boys,
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he's a hell of a player.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
He's a hell of a player, no, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I would a nine point nine yards touch a touch
in the running game.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
He would be the seventh leading rusher in the country
after contact. Now that's the stat that when you're like, wait,
I couldn't have read that run.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Why I went back and looked at it. I said,
is that right?
Speaker 6 (09:45):
The seventh leading rusher in the country after contact.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I mean, that's that's a lot of yards you know.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
This, this game that they're playing this week is gonna
happen on a Friday, And that's one I think that
I'm I'm I'm shooting for the Boise State un l
V game in uh Las Vegas at the New Raider Stadium.
I have a friend of mine who played at the
University of Colorado O c Oliver's son is a starting
cornerback for uh the UNLV Rebel football team, and minus
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just uh, I think four or five points U n
LV would be undefeated as well. I mean, that's a
that's a big matchup. And this is probably this is
probably the reason that the Pac twelve is going after
a school like u n LV and and and and
Boise State is is prominently in the Big twelve.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Now that that is.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean, I just these these conferences and the
realignment it's going to change within the next what the
next year or so, because this this this championship series
that we have now is slated for two seasons, and
then after the two seasons, there is another conversation that's
going to happen about how you crown the college football season.
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And with that, I think that's when we're going to
have the Super Conference of fifty to seventy teams and
that's it. And you know, I think the conversation has
been had out there about relegation. If you're not up
to snuff, then you get kicked out, which I think
is the absolute best thing for college football. If you
are part of this elite group and you're you've traditionally
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been part of a conference, and you don't hold up
your end, you're out.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I want to go back to the buffs here for second, Dave.
And the thing that sticks out to me, not only
about this game, but the way they've played all year,
is just how good the defense is. I think we
knew the offense was gonna be good, right, I mean, sure, Sanders.
You know, there's so much talent with the receiving corps.
We didn't know if they were gonna be able to
run the ball, but they're starting to figure that part
out of it, which is really really cool. But man,
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you talk about seven sacks and the way they just
shut down, which is by the way, McMillan is going
to be one of the top ten receivers going in
the draft this next year for Arizona. Get five catches
for thirty eight freaking yards.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I mean, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Say, coming into this game, I legitimately thought it was
going to be a shootout.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I think the over under was somewhere in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, sixty five something, I think.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And to go thirty four to seven, thoroughly dominate them
in every possible facet.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
This win was just unbelievable for me.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Yeah, you don't mean he's gonna be in the top
ten of wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You mean he's a top ten. He'll be the first
receiver taken.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
He might be one of the top receivers taken.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
No, I agree with you on that, and I do.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think it's a good point about the defense because
and when you used down think how bad this defense
was last year, and I know they got to I mean,
they got so many guys in that.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I can't even All I do is root for what's
on front of.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
The jersey, right, I can't figure honestly, gosh, I can't
figure out who's playing. It really doesn't matter to me
as long as they're were in a CU helmet and
representing CEU the right way.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I'm pulling for SEU.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
But the defense has really stepped up and they are so.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So much better than they were last year. And I
also think this, I think you got to say the c.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Running game has improved a lot, and their patients to
sort of stay with the running game. I think they've
become more balanced, which is just going to make Schadure
and that set of receivers even much more difficult to
deal with.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, I think coach Livingston, who came over from the
Cincinnati Bengals, has really really done a good job of simplifying,
simplifying the defense and making it making it something that.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
You can get used to. And this is this is
a clear.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Indication that what we were doing last year is was garbage.
I mean, it's just I mean, the athletes haven't changed
that much. I talked about the coordination last year and
how it was clumsy and how it was just too
difficult for the for the guys to learn. I remember, now,
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you had a brand new defensive coordinator to come in
last year and put in a defense, and guess what,
you had a new defensive coordinator to come in just
the following So it's not like you, you know, these
kids got to learn the same defense.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Two years in a row.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Now this is a different defense, and they've taken to
it and the principles from everything that I understand about it,
have this been standard basic principles about how to play defense.
And it's just made a huge difference. And I just
don't understand sometimes. You know, we talked about this a
little bit with just looking at Sean Payton and his
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offensive sets and why do you send so many different
packages in like do you have to have this substitution
or do you have to do it this way? And
you know what, I look at the University of Colorado's
defense last year as a similar process. You know, you
had all these trap defenses, You had these special coverages
that maybe you were used to using when you at Alabama,
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and it's no longer. You don't have the three year
four year started at remembers those concepts, and I think
coach Livingston went and what he's done this.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Year is just man on point man. And then if
there's a.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
If there's a candidate for a head coach out of
this staff, it would be him, you.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Know, looking at the rest of the schedule, I gotta
be honest, and again maybe I'm I'm just over the
moon at the way that they have turned things around,
especially as you mentioned, Dave, with the running game this season.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
If you have in front of you Ryan the people
that don't. They've got five games left. They got five games,
three of them at home.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Okay, but starting this Saturday hosting Cincinnati their four points
favorites in that game, another eight fifteen game at all.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I know you like that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Then they got at.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Texas Tech home against Utah, who, by the way, won't
have Cam rising, I don't think, yep, at Kansas and
then home against Oklahoma State. I'm not saying run the table,
because I think that that seems hyperbolic in its nature.
But the same time, I don't hate their matchups in
really any of these games.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Am I am? I out of my mind.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Here, No, you're not. I think that. I think what
really makes this intriguing to me.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
You know, I have to continually remind friends, not a
lot of them, but a couple of them, like where
this thing was, you know, eighteen months ago, where this
was two years ago? Right, it just doesn't happen overnight.
But I think the interesting thing about this the last
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part of the schedule, all five of those games they
could win. I mean I think they really could win.
Being a four point favorite at home against Cincinnati. That's
no guarantee there, right, So the odds makers are thinking
it's going to be a pretty close game. So the
Buffs have got to stay focused week by week because
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
They could win all of them.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
And also, I don't think there's one game on that
schedule that if they they didn't come out and play
that they could lose, right, So they I think they
can win all of them.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But every single week.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Has got to be like little things and important stuff
and stay on your p's and q's and play your
best ball.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
You know, the game that you know, it kind of
sticks out to me is the Oklahoma State game. It
sticks out to me for one reason that is unique
with the rest of the schedule that's being announced already,
it's already got us kicktime if the kicktime is at
ten am, and that's I don't know. I don't know
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that that's an early kicktime for Bowl to Colorado, But
apparently that has got to be something that they've worked
out with the networks. But the rest of them are
TBD to be determined. And that has been the storyline
of the University of Colorado Weekly Outlook since They've played
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a good brand of football because everybody wants to see them.
And what was impressive impressive about the University of Colorado
and their fandom. Not only am I getting phone calls
and emails and text messages from friends who want to
come and be part of this story, which is bizarre
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to me.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean, it is just it's bizarre. I mean it is.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think that coach Prime has his fan base of
people out there in the United States that want to
come and be part of this story. And people want
to say that they went to the Colorado game, and
it's it's it's a it's it's the weirdest thing that
ever happened since I've been part of football, because I've
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been part of some pretty damn spectacular teams and I
just don't believe that I had anything like this as
far as a hype machine. I mean, we were undefeated
as an NFL team going into what week thirteen days
with the Broncos, Yes, and uh, we didn't get this
kind of we didn't get this kind of of coverage,
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you know, and it's it's just it's incredible. I don't
know what's going on here, but I like it because
it's it's leading us and landing us some big recruits.
But with that, nobody knows what time the games are. Like,
I think I kind of took it for granted that
to see you Buff was gonna play at one o'clock
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on a Saturday when they were at.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Home to ten am start might be the big I mean,
this is how listen, we have three college football fans
here doing the show, right, I mean we all we
all love football in general, college football in particular for sure,
and none of us, I mean the ten am start
would mean that is that is that game on Fox?
(19:52):
Because that would that would be the prime that would
be the prime slot, I believe on Fox from a
Nashville it's an.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
ABC, so that that's an ABC game. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So I then I don't know, I'm not sure kind
of what that says.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
That's the that's the Thanksgiving weekend week right, I mean,
I mean that's a big that's a big college that
that's the Ohio State Michigan weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well, it's a Friday. It's a Friday game. It's a Friday, Friday,
November twenty ninth. It's not even a Saturday game.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
So Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, that's after Thanksgiving, right that used to be to
see you Nebraska weekend. Yes, yes, Now it's Oklahoma State.
So that's a ten am start on Friday, Black Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Huh Yeah, all right, man, I mean this is yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Like I said, this is all of this is all
of this is new man, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
You got regulations. You got to plan your your Friday accordingly.
I know you you were going to go back on
Black Friday and give back some of those flannel shirts.
But I would think you'd want to watch the CU
game instead at that.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Time of year.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Dave, I'm only doubling up.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'll figure it out in the spring, or maybe I'll
just keep them all for the next fall. I mean,
there's the reality is they never really go out of style.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Apparently.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That is apparently, so that's not I'm not that's not
necessarily true.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I tried to sum cool.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, year round flannel and and honestly it starts
with a spark, fellas.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
It starts with one person.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Saying, park around, get your ass on fire, gona happen? Alright,
we ared live.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
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Speaker 5 (21:29):
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Speaker 1 (21:31):
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you mentioned big Al. When we come back, we're getting
text about it. I know we gott to get to it.
Russell Wilson made his debut last night for the Steelers.
We will talk about it next. So Russell Wilson last night,
I mean it was okay, it was all right.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
They went.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
They went thirty seven to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's a combination of the defense doing a good job
and the Jets imploding. I don't know, I I I
want to give Russell Wilson flowers. A lot of people
are very excited about his performance, but I'm probably the wrong.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Person to ask.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I'll go to you first. What did you think about
Russell Wilson last night?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I actually I thought he did okay, I mean I
really did. I thought the start of it was like,
oh boy, this this is not going to turn out
to be good. I thought his receivers made some really
good catch catches. I thought pickings, you know, pickings on
a couple of catches, and he's known for that.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Uh, but but he was big.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
He had the he had the one where he kind
of held off the defender with his left arm and
caught it with his right arm, first big play of
the game for the Steelers passing the ball, and then
he had the juggling effort that he bobbled two or
three times, caught that. Friarmuth also had a really nice
one handed catch. So to me, it was confounding the
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way the Jets continued to play defense with him. I mean,
it's easy, you know, to sit back and say, Okay,
why would they do that? And that's exactly what I'm doing.
Why why would you not make Russ. Russ wants to
throw the ball deep, and if you're going to come
up and press guys and play zero all the time,
you're just inviting that ball to go deep.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And he's a good enough deep ball thrower.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
To me, I'm playing off and I'm making him read
and throw the ball in the interior part of the field.
But credit, I mean credit the Steelers, and I you know,
I wasn't unhappy for Russ that he came out and
and it worked out for him.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, I really thought that that Russell Wilson and his
debut was gonna fall flat on his face because the
NFL is a fast moving place, and I didn't think
that he had to requisite amount of snaps to jump
in in week seven and just step in without having
really any preseason action or no real action for the
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last six weeks. And I thought that, well, for him
to play right now, he's got to be one hundred
percent healthy.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Like this has got to be.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
This has got to be what the storyline is like.
He can run, he can scramble, and of course he
can he can run, he can scramble, but the speed
of the league usually gets to you when you are
coming back from an injury. And Dave, you and I
both know that it's unrelenting in that matter. When you
when you when you are coming back from injury, you go, damn.
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You know that guy's moving fast now, you know, and
you got to get back jump in the fast.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I'm not trying to come back. I'm done trying to
come back.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But I remember what it was like, like, oh my goodness, man,
I'm just not quite ready yet. So I thought that
would be the effect that asn't. Matter of fact, I
picked the Jets to win because I thought that would
be the case. But I thought they did a good
job of mixing it up. And I think that this
is the difference between having a guy who is down
for you and Mike Tomlin versus a guy who wants
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you out of here, and that was Sean Payton. Think
I think that's the I think that's the difference that
you're seeing. And there's no real reason why Justin Fields
shouldn't be the starter right now. There's I mean, he
gave him the team at four and two, so I mean,
this is this is almost this is in my opinion,
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this is forced for no reason. And Russell must have
been looking great in practice and that's the only way
that you can make this move.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Think that's a really good point.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I go ahead, Dave, Sorry, Ron, I think the only
thing that I would say, and I think Justin does
everything better than Russell at this point of Russell's career
except throw the deep ball. And I think when you
look at the Steelers production, even though they were four
and two going into last night's game, only only one
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touchdown pass to a wide receiver. So Russell has been
two things in his career that he's been able to do.
He's done a bunch of good things before he got here,
but he's been a really good deep ball thrower and
he's been a guy that can throw on the move.
And so the boot boot was back in that game.
He made some accurate throws for the most part while moving,
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and you're gonna get with him in the game. You're
gonna get three, four, five moonshots down the field. And
then it becomes if you're just gonna play that kind
of coverage, it becomes my guy's better than your guy.
In a lot of cases, Pickens is going to be
better than whomever is covering, including Sauce Gardner a couple
of times. So I think it's fascinating to say, but
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there were times where in that game early I thought
had he taken off, had that been justin feels, he
would have taken off and run for thirty five yards.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, And that's such a good point too, because and
I'm not saying the Jets defense quit, but they are
not playing to the level that we're used to seeing, right,
I mean, they're just something not quite happening there.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Two teams.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's two teams, man, I mean that's really I mean,
that's two teams that we've actually seen that have given
that kind of effort. I mean the Saints, right, and
a team that we just played, and the Jets both
have given that kind of effort, right, I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Just and it never really banged up in the back end.
I mean, they're missing five dbs. The Jets were.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Moley back yet.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I mean, and I think that you know, if there
was one person that defined their defense is probably the
middle linebacker. You know that that was playing lights out
football last year and has been done. And I mean
with that Ryan, I mean, I don't see any any
toughness in that team.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I take that back.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
He did play last night, so he was good.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
But again, you're right, I mean upfront defensively, I mean,
they were just a bit of a sieve. And the
thing about it, to Dave's point, like you knew what
the Steelers ultimately we're gonna try to do. Right, They're
gonna surround Russell Wilson with a good running game, Right,
You're gonna take some deep shots, and it just seemed
like for the Jets that they were content to let
him have it and and that part was a little
puzzling for me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
And there were some wide open breakdowns in the back end.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I mean, they even acknowledged it on the broadcast last night, say, hey,
I mean, you're you get down this decimated when the secondary,
this is what's gonna happen. You're gonna have some miscommunication.
Guys are gonna run wide open. Again, that's not Russell
Wilson's fault. That's not the Pittsburgh Steelers fault. That they're
just out there playing their game. I do think it's
a little overblown because people are like, oh, it's the
highest point total of the season. Well, let's worked thirty
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two points last week, so it's really I mean, we're
talking what I mean. And honestly, the defense could have
had a pick six there if Devantae Adams didn't have
that extra effort where he dove on the backs of
the legs of the guy that had the interception.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
It was just it was a weird night in a
lot of ways, right.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I mean, I don't think any less necessarily of the Jets,
other than on the defensive side of the ball in
the effort that I saw, and simultaneously I don't think
the Pittsburgh Steelers have somehow found the elixir that they're
going to be one of the best offenses in the league.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I don't know, Dave, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I think one thing about Pittsburgh, They've always been all
and al Briefly played against him twice a year, and
I forever played against them twice a year, and it's
carried over decades later. They're always physically tough. They're always
going to test you on both sides of the ball.
And I saw a team last night that just started
to wear the Jets down and physically imposed their will
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on them. And the other thing I would say is,
I mean, you know you're paying receivers a lot of
money with the Jets. How about you guys catch the ball.
The ball's bouncing off the chest and up in the air.
Were turned down to the one. I mean, it's you know,
I thought Aaron made a questionable throw. Bad throw on
the first pick. He tried to fit it in against
two men and tried to throw it, I mean right
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through a defender, which he's done from time to time.
But the one to Garrett Wilson, my gosh, I mean,
that couldn't have been placed any better and he still
bobbled it.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I couldn't tell if Wilson, Garrett Wilson was surprised by
the ball.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
It was a weird deal, Dave.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I mean, when a ball bounces right off the chest pock,
I couldn't tell.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
If it was deflected. It was deflected even a little bit.
It does tend to throw the trajectory and just for
a moment your concentration off a little. But looking at
the replay, I don't think it was. And maybe Garrett
anticipated that ball being deflected because it was really really close,
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and that that can happen too. But listen, man, you're
you're a highly paid professional receiver. You got to catch
that ball for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
You know, real quick.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Before before we get to a break here, I got
to talk about what's happening with the Kansas City Chiefs, and.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
We're definitely gonna talk about the Chiefs today.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
What they're doing right now with playing average to below
average offense is unbelievable. We may be looking at possibly
a team that's gonna go back to the Super Bowl
if if they stay healthy and it's it's incredible because
Patrick Mahomes, I think, do it for like one fifty yesterday.
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And even though he only threw for like one fifty
one sixty yesterday, it felt like the defense just kept
making big play aff the big play. Hey man, We've
been talking about the Kansas City Chiefs and in their
offense this entire time. For the last three, four or
five years, we have not really given flowers to that defense.
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And that defense over there is starting to cause a
lot of problems for a lot of teams. And they're
winning right now because their defense is keeping them.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
I agree, contest, I agree. The defense I mean has
been playing lights out. Second consecutive game that Mahomes did
not throw a touchdown pass, which when you think about
his career, that's almost unheard of. And yet they're unbeaten.
That is not good news for everybody else in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Safely unbeaten. I mean, they won that game handily yesterday.
Even twenty eighteen doesn't really tell us the full picture.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
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Speaker 5 (32:02):
That conversation on the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You know, there's a several takeaways on that game yesterday,
the Super Bowl rematch. First of all, the forty nine
ers are gonna be in trouble here for a bet,
They're gonna be without Brandon Ayu for the rest of
the season. Deebo Samuel got hurt in that game, and
I was good to see Ricky Piersoll back out there,
but they.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
That storyline is still unbelievable to me.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Remarkable.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Mar shot in the preseason right over a bag. You know,
I'm like, you can't what kind of bag was that?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Like a Louis bag or something or whatever it was.
I mean, the kid was shot. That first round draft pick.
Uh survived it. It died, could have died a nice
playing football and rock.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Perty throwing three interceptions yesterday. The Chiefs defense is legit.
What did you think about the Patrick Mahomes scramble along
the sideline.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I thought about that and this is what I thought.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's a problem.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's a big problem.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's a problem because as a defense, you're talk if
a guy is on his way out, don't hit him,
because it's an unnecessary, an unnecessary contact with the guy
who's already heading out of bounds. And then you see
exactly then you see Patrick Mahomes pulls it in tight
(33:23):
ropes the sideline over there on the left side, and
then you go, well, what is he doing? You know?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So is he ever out or is he ever down?
You know?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And so I think you just have to use different
a different set of rules with quarterbacks. And this is
what I would tell my guys if I was a
defensive coordinator sitting in a defensive coordinators meeting. There are
rules for quarterbacks when they're in the pocket, and when
they're not in the pocket.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Knock the hell out of them. I mean, I mean
you you.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Put your you put your crown and your helmet right
in the middle of their between their numbers on the jerseys,
between the one and the five. You plant your your
Rydale right in between the one and the five. You
run through him. Because this is the reason, this is
the reason quarterbacks end up feeling like they're you know, indestructible.
(34:17):
You know what I'm saying. If nobody's gonna hit you,
then yeah, you have the right to just run around
the field. If you have no no running back would
have done what he did. Hell, I'm saying, every every
receiver nose, every tight end nose, if they're over there,
they're unprotected. And for some reason, you know, the guys
over there with the forty nine ers did not attack
(34:39):
him when he was on the sideline because I think
they thought he was going out of bounds.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Well, oftentimes he's the like the king at.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Drawing those penalties, right, right, But at the same time, Ryan,
he can't be the second leading and rusher on the
team and not taking any any big boy shots. You know,
he's not out there. You know, he's not out there
waving the white flag while he's running. He's actually running man.
So therefore I would treat him like a runner. And
(35:06):
if he happens to go down, okay, that that you know,
you see that these rules, these these slide rules, those
are those are confusing to me. They are you know
what I'm saying, Like when a quarterback goes into the slide,
and then he said and then he looks, you know,
he goes into the slide and you go to for
him up on him.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know, Patrick Mahomes trucks stick the dude in the
end zone. Yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean, he just absolutely ran through a guy that
was trying to tackle him in the end zone. You
know how embarrassing that is. So you treat him like
he is a runner. He's rom now on, you know,
And I would say that about every quarterback, including our own.
If he breaks pocket, okay, and he's outside the pocket
left or right, you treat him as a guy that's
(35:51):
a runner. If he crosses the line going forward, you
treat him as a runner.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Reminded memd me of Kenny Pickett at Pitt Remember.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That when he when he act like he was gonna
slide and kept going.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Yes, that's exactly what it reminded me of.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
And that's what I was all.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I was thinking, say, da' see, that's what I'm talking about, right,
that which showing is Patrick Mahomes. Yet that I said,
that's what I'm talking about. That's what's wrong with the NFL.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And you can't blame the defender at that point because
he knows hey leave.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Him alone if he's on his way out.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
But you got to treat him like a runner.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
But the problem is is the league has gone so
far to protect these quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
He's not a quarterback. Then I know that you and
I know that on your quarterback.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
As a defensive player, you have that that flashes through
your head for a moment of like my gosh, what
do I do here?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Because it just upset.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Too and a lot of people out there like saying, oh.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Patrick Mahomes is amazing. Yeah, I was like, no play
should be elital Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I mean, listen, man, that's all right. You know you
just hey, listen, listen, that's all right. See you see
you get one of those. You get one of those, man,
See if you just get one of those, and then
you get into the meeting room the next week, you're
playing against the Kansas City Chiefs, and you know what
the next guy is gonna do. He's gonna dive at
(37:09):
Patrick Mahomes's legs when he's on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
And then you're gonna say he's cheap, he's trying to
take him out. Nope, let me show you why he's.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Not okay, Because this guy just ran over a defensive
back and trucks sticked him and looked at him right
after he got the touchdown, like, you know, shrug them
off of him, like get off of me, right, And
then you just took off down the sideline with that
twenty five yard Robinson.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm like, what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Take him low, thirty three yard run and a turn
into thirty three.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Ye take him low, Take him low, take him out
the game, just like he would you would a running back,
or a wide receiver or a tight end. I don't
want to hear it anymore. I don't want to hear
it anymore. If a if a quarterback, if a runner
is outside the pocket, you have to treat him as
a runner.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Period.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
I don't want to hear it no more.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
We're a lying for the sporty pickle bar and grill
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