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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're gonna hear Ben talking about chug Water Chili at
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Chili is the best. Yeah, we got Broncos warm up
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Course we'll be a log for the opening line, the
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Football Hour. So our coverage starts at eight am on Sunday.
We're gonna have a chance for you tomorrow to when
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at six o'clock. Listen to the entirety of the fourth
quarter as the Broncos spoiler alert beat the Giants. And
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that's gonna be a lot of fun though to relive that.
What a quarter of football.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You'll not sure, man, They're down nineteen points at the
start here.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm not sure they're gonna pull it off.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So we got some people calling you out for being
the extra wet blanket. All right, you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah? Fire away?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
All right, it's from Joe and Parker. Ben in your mind,
are the Broncos doing anything right? It's hard because as
a fan, I want to be happy because they're five
and two, but I can't would listen or read anything
because all I hear is how bad they are. It
was almost more fun when they did suck, because people
are looking for the positives and solutions. In fact, you
prided yourself on not giving into the negative.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Just my thoughts. Why I didn't say they were bad.
That's not a thing that happened. I said that there
are things that they're doing that are not sustainable. I mean,
we all talked about getting lucky and being five and
too good that you can't by definition, you can't be
bad at that point.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But there are things they're not good at.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
There are things that are not sustainable, and I want
this team to continue winning. So yeah, I am harping
on process. The fact that we're throwing the ball, you know,
eleven out of twelve times when we're inside the five
is stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What are we doing? What are we doing throwing.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Passes to the left tackle when we just need to
run it in with JK Dobbs. Are we really that
thirsty to pad Bro's touchdown numbers?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Then we can't let JK get in the end zone
to see this is.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
This is part and parcel to what Joe's talking about.
Like everything you just said there all negatives that they're
not I.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Mean, this is this is this is legitimate criticism of process.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sure, but also patting Bonux's stats.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's a rhetorical question. It's a rhetorical device to make
a point, which you know, but is.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There anything you know? Listen, we're good at running the ball.
Let's do it more.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You guys want to talk about this, I've done this,
but we've already done this. Don't don't add any other
extra like.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Negative on the other side of negative to that. I say,
you guys want to do this, we can. You're wrong.
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't have a problem tell the audience are wrong too.
It's rare that I get to sit there and just
point to figure, Yeah, you guys are wrong. Like, there's
plenty of things we do well, and let's do the
things we do well.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I just want to try an exercise. Really sure, Okay,
I'm going to ask you for things that the Broncos
are doing well, and I don't need you to add
we should do it more or this is the thing
that they could do better.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I just what are they doing well? What do you
like about the Broncos. We'll start there.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Run the ball? Oh do you want more? I'm sorry,
Like I'm just trying to be up to so at
this point. We run the ball well. We especially run
the ball well outside.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We should do it more.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay, we uh we pressually the pass are well. We
play coverage well for the most part, especially against wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Are careful. Yeah, especially against wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Are you know our our one two corner tandem of
Riley Boston Patser Tanner very good? Okay, we do pretty
well in pass protection or not taking negative plays.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Teetering You know what do you mean teetering? Well, you're
just like we do pretty well pretty well? That qualifier
is not a positive.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Pretty well is pretty well?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It just feels like you're moving a goal pretty well
is pretty well.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
There's not any other way to do what you trying
to say? Pretty well? Actually is I try to illustrate
a point. Actually you said pretty well, but what you
really mean it's their horse.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm trying to illustrate a point that, first of all,
you do like several things the Broncos are doing most
of the time when you're being critical.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I always say this because I know you and I
love you.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
We play well in rhythm, we play well with temple,
we play well. We're throwing the ball down the field
Latent games not early for some reason, because there's a
standard that you're holding them to.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's that's tends to be why you're being as hypercritical
as you are. Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I think it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
When you set the standard that we're a super Bowl
contending team, I'm going to set the standard at super
Bowl level criticism.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I do think that there's sometimes that it tends
to be framed. And we talked about the wet blanket
all bright stuff for years. It tends to be framed
in a well, I was right about this being a problem,
and now I'm going to tell you all about how
right I was that this was a problem.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
If you guys could quit cryet a line about me
being wrong, I wouldn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
All you guys had to do is all you guys
got to do is.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Stop doing that stuff, and I will absolutely stop stop
retorting in that way.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What do you mean, you people? What do you mean
you people?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm trying to help you right now. Yeah, you're helping,
that's what you're doing. This is a great content for
a bit at all.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm seeing you up to say nice things about the
Broncos to the people I know plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We rush the pastor well, we get rid of it quickly.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We have an explosive play rate is pretty good, although
not early, but games is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We find ways to dig out of holes in the
fourth quarter. We don't we don't give up on things.
We are extremely good at beating the Bengals. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, I mean, there's there's plenty of little things that
that are in there, but there are other there are
things that we don't do, and that's that's sort of
the problem. And my my irritation level, I think gets
spiked when we have a head coach that.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Just adamantly denies those things.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't want to talk about this, Yeah, of course
you don't want to talk about it because it's not
good right now, you know, like you know, you don't
want that, you don't want the criticism. And so that's
where my frustration comes from, because I'm like criticism. I'm
talking to Sean Paton like everybody can see it. Every
every you know, everybody on Earth can see that stupid
screenplay doesn't work right, and they viewed as an extension
of the run game, but it's not. The run game
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is the extension of the run game. Do the things
you do well, and when people try to adjust to
do that, then do the other things. The Giant like
my breaking point on the that screen pass hit when
the Giants were actively pointing out and you could hear
it on the TV broadcast, the Giants were actively pointing
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out exactly what the play was before they were running
it and who was blocking and who was it was
catching the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Do you ever think on game day, when you're live
tweeting in the game, that you should reserve a little bit,
You know, you're in the moment. I understand didn't look
good for three quarters, but you're really sort of drumming
up the it's all crappy. And I've been telling you
all along that Sean does these things and so on
and so forth. And then of course they come back
in the fourth quarter and they'll have they tell.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You they're going to do that too, like they just
like they did back.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
When Russell was here. Yeah, three, it's just the same
criticism I've had for three years. Yeah, this offense is
kind of stagnant for the first three quarters, and then
when you let the quarterback do what they're good at,
all of a sudden, it takes off.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Another text here, a longtime fan of the show and
Ben However, these last few years, it sounds like a
soap op for a personal beef with Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Isn't personal. It doesn't matter who it was.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
If the offense was this stagnant for three quarters and
then explodes in the fourth, I.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Would say the same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I did the same thing, but it was rich Gangarell,
and we were real good on the script and real.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Bad off it. You guys don't remember that. I'm trying
to help. I don't want it. Let me drown like
it's so wet. Yep, there's no reason to uh, it's
there's frustration level here.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I hold Sean Payton to a higher standard that I'm
holding Nate Hackett to. Nate Hackett was a rookie coach
with no experience. Sean Payton's been around a decade and
a half. Like, if something isn't working due to just.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
There's Joe Lombardi talking about the pressure on the offense
to keep pace with the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I don't know if it's overstated. I mean, I think
every game you're you're trying to move the ball in
score points. Certainly, it's a team that I think it's
important that we don't have a bunch of three an
ounce like maybe we've had the fat the past couple
of weeks, because I think the game could get out
of hand if they're you know, scoring like they scored. Obviously,
we have faith in our defense that they'll hold up.
But I think every week in this league, you want
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to play well. You know, we have keys to victory
every week, and you know, don't turn the ball over,
play well in the red zone. You know, you just
you want to play well. And obviously you know some
games are low scoring and it might turn you into
a little bit more conservative offensively because you know your
defense is playing really well, and you know some games
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can turn into a track meet and you got to
get going and be a little more aggressive. So you know,
going into the game, I think our plan is to
play well and then as you know you're getting as
you feel the rhythm of the game, you know you
might have to adjust how aggressive you are, and you
know that always the flow of the game type thing.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean to Joe Lombardi's point, and I understand
what he's saying. It's like, we don't go into games
with the intention of playing poorly for three quarters, or
we're playing poorly at the beginning of games and then
magically something somehow figuring it out and winning it late.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Like nobody does that. That's that's not a real thing.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And I also known and covered not only the Broncos
but the NFL for years, and when offensive players are
asked about keeping pace, they're like, what do you think
we go into this thing thinking, Hey, wouldn't it be
great we just scored one touchdown. Wouldn't it be awesome
if we got just one point more than our opponent. No,
you want to score touchdown literally on every drive if
you can so.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But I think those questions, the spirit of those questions
is more about the fact that you're fake. You're playing
the best offense you've played all year, and that's really
what it is. Maybe they're poorly framed, but that's really
the spirit. I think of those type of questions you
had no offense goes into yeah, you know, we really
like to get to ten eleven points in this one
and then just put it in park.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So he answered that appropriately, as in what we go
into every game with the intention of being good, being
very good. But then again, as you mentioned the spirit
of the question, because I asked Alex Peltchewski the same
question earlier, the spirit of the question is what you
guys have been doing offensively? And again, seventeenth in the NFL,
averaging twenty three point three points per game.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's probably not going to be enough.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That's below average, yes, versus a team that's averaging thirty
one point seven points per game. It's actually second best
in the league. But I mean that's eight that's eight
points more over eight points more per game than you.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And now again you have a better rets without one
of their best weapons for a long large portion.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Ceedee Lamb has been missing for for several games. Now
he's going to be back. How would you defend this team?
Like I've been asked that by so many people. Are
you defended Dallas? You play your You play your game
like you play a game your way. You don't go,
you don't You're a man up against George Patins and
early on you are, and Jake Ferguson you are.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Our linebackers covering.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Early on you are, And if something's break, if something's
breaking or not working, then we you know, I mean,
we've got adjustments for that, you know. But we're gonna
play our game at first and try to dictate to
them and if they if we've got something that isn't working,
then we'll adjust.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You realize, Dak Prescott has sat Dak Prescott, but the
Cowboys offense has allowed the same amount of sacks as
the Broncos offense.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, they get rid of the ball pretty quickly, do
They've got a good offensive line, and they've got a
heck of a run game, which Avante Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That else, take pressure off the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
When you see Javonte Williams running the way he is,
is there a little bit of a missed opportunity feeling
for you on that?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't know. I mean, JK is doing just as well.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
If they would let him loose the way they let
Javonte loose down there in Dallas, I think he'd have better,
even better numbers overall. I think I think if JK
wasn't here, it would be a problem. I think we'd
be looking at.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
This like Hulu. But you know, I think it had
run its course.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Javonte kind of wanted to move on, you know, he
didn't even when Dallas offered him. He didn't come back
to the Broncos to have the match.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So I think Javonte was was kind of done too,
especially with you know, some of the snide comments that
he got over the course of that, you know, last year.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I think he's looked phenomenal and it seems like all
the coaches inside the building really liked him, like as
a person, and then there's certain amount of rooting for
him to Yet.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Like everybody in town, I think Javonte mostly has good
feelings here in Denver. I don't think there's you know,
even the people that were making jokes last year. I
think everybody, except for against the Broncos, is rooting for Javante.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
On the KWA Conspirit Health text line five six six
nine zero, Ryan and Ben, why do you guys think
Sean Payton is so stubborn to try to run his
offense when it's clearly not working.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Has been pointed out.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Everybody in the NFL knows the Broncos screen passes does
not work. Why doesn't Sean Payton adjust to the skills
of Bonix and give him a game plan that revolves
around what he does best. Pretending that bo Is Drew
Brees and is not working? And do you think it's
time for Sean Payton to move on if he cannot
utilize the skill set of his quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
There's lots of yeah, lots like rob but well I'd.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Say, no, I'm not in the he needs to move
on or a lot of those kinds of things not there.
But I don't even know if he's necessarily pretending he's
Drew Brees. I think that that Bonis has shown the
ability to understand the offense, and so Sean puts a
lot on his plate because of it. But there's also
a certain amount of we are in relatively relative infancy
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of his career as a pro. So just as he's
an older quarterback, and and he can handle it, at
least on paper wise, putting it out there on the
field when you have the edge rushers that have been
coming after him, you have the defensive lines that they've
been playing against, that's a different thing. It's a different
thing to do these things in practice and have bo
Nicks be able to dissect and explain everything and then
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get that out there on the field and say, okay,
now you need to do it here.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think it's several fold.
I think it's just like when you look at the Broncos,
it's not only one thing. I think to answer the
textures questions, I don't think it's it's any one thing.
I think the head coach has had something worked for
a long time, so he just kind of expects it
to be executed at work, whether it you know, whether
the league is caught up or not. I think that
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Drew Brees did cover for a lot of things with
this offense. I mean, he's a top five all time
quarterback in my opinion. He had a Hall of Fame mind,
a Hall of Fame arm, and you know, he made
thin processes that may have been janky, he made them
better with what he did in his skill set. And
I think it kind of looks like Seawn he's trying
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to hide bow early in games, you know, with some
of this stuff, but when you let him loose, he's
able to execute. So my question is why can't Bo
execute like some little sideline shots and things like that.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Why is BO struggling to execute early?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Look at that first series, right, first series we had
against the Giants. That first throw to Pat Bryant was
uncatchably high. Right, the passes in that first three pass
they weready inaccurate. They weren't accurate. Does Bo have early
game jitters to see one of these guys who comes
in with a little jacked up, too much nerves. If
that's the case, why are we running three pass plays
to start a game? Why don't we run the ball
and let Bo get comfortable before we do.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So there are a lot of questions I have about
that rather than answers, But.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's my job. My job is to ask those questions.
Sean Payton's jobs to have the answers.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
We have somebody coming to your defense here, family member.
Otherwise I don't know, but Ben, I think you're spot on.
If this team is to make a run, they have
a lot all caps to clean up. I don't like
the wet blanket reference. Build on strength, but your weaknesses
will define you. And that's all I've got to say
about that. Sean Payton is a damn good offensive coach.
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But this team is so damn predictable it's sick. It's
when they're forced that they actually go into the playbook
and make things happen. I mean, I don't know about
that part. The last part.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think they get into a rhythm when the pressure
is off and you're trying to you know, in the
fourth quarter, you're trying to catch up a little bit,
and you just kind of get into that, and they
get into a rhythm and they seem to start clicking.
The question is how to transfer that to earlier in
the game. How do you get them in those rhythms?
How do you settle them down? And and you know,
and for me, that's put you know, we've talked about
a hare creating some easy.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Button plays, you know, shallow crossers.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Puts stuff that's easy pitch and catch stuff put in
my guy's hands and let them go, and you know,
and doing those kinds of running the football. You know,
I'm out on the field, but all I got to
do is make this hand off, like you know, those
kinds of things I think will help, you know, relax
a little bit and get them going forward. I you know,
first of all, thanks for being a so I appreciate that,
but you know, beyond the rest of that, I mean, yeah,
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build on strengths. I find the things that you do well,
force other teams to stop you from doing those things,
and when they do adjust to try to stop you,
then you can hit them with these other things.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So the person that agrees with you is that obviously
everybody else criticizing everybody else is wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
But we do have I mean, you know, genius is
not many, it's the few, and that's that's that's in
this case.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Why that's a.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Representative of the population. And there's a few geniuses. There's
only one text supporting you, right, There's more than one.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
But yes, well, I mean there are more that there
are definitely more that that dislikement.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's fine. I'm used to being hated and you know
it's such as the curse of being right. You like
to lead it. Yeah, yeah, Galileo is hated too, but
he spoke truth to power.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Did you just did you just put yourself in Galileos category?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
They have invoked, Yeah, invoked one of the greatest minds
of all time. That's whatever, you know, galile casually casually
invoking I figured you have all people would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, of course I appreciate it, but also like, come on,
cry it out loud.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Oh you know, I mean, how many listeners, Like, how
many listeners out that groaned when I did that?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The entire city of Denver. I could hear it get
through the windows in here. It's like the entire city
just groaned with putting himself in line with the genius.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Country. That's a great saying, the entire Rocky Mount region. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But but but to your point, there's obviously things to
clean up. They are five and two on the on
the concept of being positive unnecessarily or being negative. I mean,
I do do think that there's arguments really kind of
on both sides of it. I think to your point,
and I've known you for a long time, so I
know most of the time that you're having a good Yeah,
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I know that you have this like all right, well,
if you're going to be better than a crappy team,
then you got to be judged by that. And if
you're gonna be better than like look what they were
for about a decade there, it's kind of like you
are helping for improvements, you are trying to find the
silver linings because you know that they're not good enough
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to really stand toe to toe with a lot of
NFL teams, but you're just looking for all, right, I
need some improvement here, improvement there. I know, I know
they're building on something, but now ostensibly they're beyond that. Right,
we've jumped over the You're still in a building program
that hopes they can do something.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, no, you think you've arrived.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You're leading in the AFC West now, So now it's
about what can you do with the next step, which
is winning this division. And that's what Sean said last
offseason in his final press conference to the media, is
we plan on winning the AFC West next year. Okay, Well,
if you're gonna win the AFC West and you're going
to go toe to toe with the Chiefs and the
Chargers for example, well these are things that are problematic.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So I get kind of where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
But I can see where for some Broncos fans you
tend to lean in on the criticism a little heavier. Sometime.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'm going to be harder on Sean Baden than I
was on Date Hackett, and I hold them to different standards.
Hackett was a rookie coach in a in a situation
where we were rebuilding and we did not actually think
that team was going to be a contender at any point.
Sean Payton has laid the ground where because is your
three of Sean Payton. Sean Payton said that this is
one of the Super Bowl contending teams he's ever coached.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
He set the standard at excellence.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So I'm gonna set the criticism at anything less than excellence.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And that's that's just the way I am.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
If we don't, you know, if you guys don't like that,
that's fine, But that's just that's who I am. You know,
you set the standard somewhere, I'm gonna try and meet it,
you know. And and that's so that's that's where I'm
gonna be the criticism set. We set the bar at
excellence because that's where Sean Payton set the bar. That's me.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
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Speaker 3 (19:40):
Joey Vampire weekendn't got to be in a concert, by
the way, Oh yeah, just to get you.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I love them.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah they're good. Joy Vampire Joey Vampire Weekend. Jordan Schultz
brought a couple of wide receivers. I want to talk
to you about when we come back on the other side,
not see if the Broncos could be interested. We'll get
to that next. You are a little bit prickly, I
can't man, Yeah, a little bit. What time is your
rebroadcast of last Sunday's fourth quarter? I'm so glad you asked.
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Is gonna be tomorrow night at six o'clock. We're gonna
rebrid rebroadcast the fourth quarter of the Broncos Giants game
in its entirety. And then, as I understand it, you
guys are gonna have some commentary on BCT about it,
aren't you. That's what I'm told. Wait, you know what's
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coming on your own show?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, now we are. We're gonna have some commentary mystery guest.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't know who the mystery guest is tonight. I'm
not gonna be there, so I don't know. No, I
said a real god. Is Rickles gonna be on the show?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yes, probably for his annual with the Funk segment. You
may be nervous every time you say that. I'll just
let you know every single time there's like I gotta
come down heart on that end.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes, you read and.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Actually, as I understand that, you're going to kick off
the top of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Recapping the Chauncey Biller stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, we'll have commentary tomorrow the fourth quarter, myself and Nick,
we'll be able to do that. It's gonna be a
lot of fun. IT'SNNA a lot of fun with this. Plus,
we got some Cowboys Broncos tickets to give away. So
not only will you be listening to the magic and
listening to the magic, you got a chance to wist
some tickets.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, we'll have tickets on kay Sports and Broncos Country
tonight coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Very excited for that and excited for the game.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
All right, So before we come go back into that,
and I do want to get some more thoughts on
the Nuggets since they're kicking off their season tonight. Our
friend Jordan Schultz is in a tweet today that the
wide receivers in New Orleans Crystal Lave and Rashid Rashid Shaheed.
Now he said Chrystal Lave was on the final year
of his contract. That is now actually correct. He has
two years left, including this year. But Crystal Lave, Rashid
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Shaheed could be on the market.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What are you hearing?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Shahed is getting a lot of calls and he may
be on the market.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
They have a contract, they're they're negotiating with the lave.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
If they move him, they move him, But they're negotiating
with him right now to try to get a deal done.
So it doesn't seem like a guy you want to
move on from. Yeah, I don't. I mean, honestly, I
wouldn't move off for me, the one. Yeah, you know, honestly,
New Orleans. I will fight at him this year. I'm
not sure i'd be up in a fire sale right
now unless you just think that some of these guys
aren't in your plans for the future. But he can
take the top off man, and I you know, if
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I was in New Orleans, I would move on from me.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The one of them. Who is I guess you got
to make room for val.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So obviously with his four catches for twenty nine yards
in a suchdown. So well, who is who is in
a firesale?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I think Miami should be.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I mean, you know, you gotta see both the edge
rushers gone, Phillips and Chubb. If the right number comes
through for Waddle. He could be gone. I know they
said they weren't, but that's that's garbage. I don't think
there's anybody that's untouchable in Miami right now. You're gonna
blow the whole thing up. You know, you're blowing it
up at the end of the year. That they should
absolutely be in fire sale mode unless you have just
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a key piece you think you're building around. But who
is that. You're not building around Wattle? Well, no you're not.
And they look like they're primed for a bit of
a reset. I do wonder for Tua, right, I mean, like, what,
you're gonna be a quarterback there next year? Okay, so
you think they're gonna go different at quarterback and with Coke,
I think they're going to blow the whole thing. They
might even get a new general manager. We'll see Chris career.
I mean, if anybody survives, it'll be him. But I
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like the vibes are bad, Yeah, the vibe, the vibe
from Miami.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Get how many head coaches has he been allowed to hire?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I no, no, I mean it's a fair point. How
does that roster look. I mean that they just gave
to his extension one last year year before.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I mean, it's it would be sort of a tough
pill to swallow, right, And I mean you drafted Quinny rs.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I mean that's not like I mean it was
what a six round pick or whatever. It was something
you had Zach Wilson there, but that's nothing. I mean,
he won't be there either. But you're playing bad enough,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And that's always the spot, right, You want to be
bad enough that you could be arranged to take a
quarterback if you wanted to. Yeah, And it doesn't mean
that they're going to. That means that you can if
you want, right, and you need to, you.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Know, I mean this year, the best quarterback coming out
this year is gonna be Tie Simpson out Alabama, So
you gotta put yourself in line for that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's actually Chrystal Lobby is the same type as Cortland Sutton.
Wouldn't we want something different like an after the catch guy? Yeah,
I mean they're both ex receivers like that. Yeah, I agree,
that's the thing, like I would be redundant to have
in a lave here.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
On top of that, I mean sewn Lys's redundancy.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Though speaking broadly, I would say that you know, maybe
there's interest. Rightly, I don't think that the bron I mean,
if the Broncs rich and somebody would be shihed not
you know, not a lave and then noticed I caveat
that with if yeah, you know, I know I saw
some some interest about stuff out there earlier. I'm not
convinced that there is outside of potentially maybe adding a guard.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You think a lot of this is going to come
down to, I mean, where it's gonna be on the
other side of week eight. Uh no, we I think
it's actually they moved the trade that they did move
the trade on the linet after for week nine now,
so which I actually like. I like later, later the
better because you know, most of the time teams don't
really know, maybe don't know by week eight what they're
going to be, but maybe by week nine, when you're
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tipping to the other side of the season, then you're like,
all right, well we are five games out of either
a playoff spot or the division, and then you kind
of know a little bit more. But if you win
a couple of games in a row, we've seen things
shift quickly or some of these teams.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, uh, neither I mean, the trade deadline is a
week from this coming Tuesday, That's right, So you know,
plenty of times still on all that kind of stuff.
What you're seeing now are a lot of teams posturing
I don't need anybody, or we're not trading somebody. Oh
we've got we're listening to offers, we're not. You know,
a lot of posturing on that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We'll see, you know how it goes.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But yeah, I mean, you know, if you're Broncos and
you keep winning, I mean maybe maybe you do start
looking like, all right, we want to make sure that
we've were covered. We got coverage, you know, down the
stretch for a tough stretch here. If you're if you
lose both those games, I mean, I don't know. I
don't think that they're certainly might be sellers. I just
don't think. I don't know if there's anything out there
that you're what would you buy, you know, I mean
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a left guard maybe, but beyond that, like, what would
you buy a speed receiver?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I mean, you already don't use Marvin Mims enough. Listen,
I'm on the same page.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I was having this discussion with Rick yesterday as he
was in studio, and he is of the opinion that
they could use an injection there with the receivers. And
I argued, more, your side of it is like you're
barely utilizing the guys that you have on the roster,
and we still haven't even sort of cracked open Pat
Bryan's like like that still is like an underutilized portion
of this office.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Like honestly a Troy Franklin replacement. Okay, but you know
Marvin Minn. We'd already don't use Marvin Mims enough. You know,
Troy's he's moved up to I guess average, but he's
there's still too many drops, too many, too many fumbles,
you know, those kinds of things going on with him.
So you know, I mean, but the position, the archetype
for the position he plays was like, you know, a
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guy like Josh Reynolds last year, I mean, who fits
that mold you go out there and trade for this year?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, and you you don't trade for those guys anyways,
right right, most of the times you can add guys
like that, What are you doing give it up assets
for that?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
No, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, listen, I wanted to go through the exercise
of it based on what Jordan Schultz was saying, and
of course the relationship with the Saints got a lot
of Broncos fans in a bit of a tizzy today
when they're like, well, gosh, Christal Love here would be
pretty great?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Or do you want to see less court than sudden
because that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So he says we need an Emmanuel Sanders. I mean,
I mean usn't everyone? Yeah, manuals great in the booth.
By the way, that was a lot of fun that. Unfortunately,
so he was in the third quarter, so we won't
get to hear Emmanuel Sanders in the booth. I played
I played the cut yesterday just for fun. Did you
hear Emmanuel Sanders call? Or he was on the call
for the Tyrone Tracy touchdown?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh I missed that. Oh it was epic. Here we go,
oh Tracy right off left door. We'll walk into the
end zone with Waise touch down too.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
He's a thirty one yard run by Tyrone Tracy, his
first rushing touchdown of the year, and just like that,
with two forty one left in the third, the Giants
are ahead nineteen to nothing, and.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Then what happened No, that was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
The mano standers Like before, they're just sort of chatting
and chatting, and then all of a sudden you could
just hear like, oh no, yeah and yeah, Tyrone Tracy
just burst up the middle.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
And that was a very I will say that was
a very low point, not just for him, but for
a lot of Broncos alums. There were there was scroup
chats were popping at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well because at that point you thought they'd given up
a little bit. I mean that that the Broncos defense. I mean,
if it's against Jonathan Taylor, Okay, right, I mean Jonathan
Taylor's unbelievable, say Won Barkley, unbelievable. Tylon Tracy, I think
is a good running back. I don't think he's in
that category. So and so allow him to go untouched
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for thirty one yards. Yeah, at that point, late in
the third quarter, it's feeling like, all right, this one's done.
And on Da Marius Thomas Day in Super Bowl fifty day,
it was the biggest part of it. You're just you're
you're confounded.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It was less about the Super Bowl fifty thing and
the DT thing, Like there was a lot of I
hope they're not going to do DT the way they
did Mike on.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
My Shanahan day.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know, there was some there was some pretty harsh
feelings about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
The one thing that I was.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I mean grateful for the comeback and then the fact
that they able to win the game. I think that
is obviously remarkable. But I saw when they scored that
first time down in the fourth quarter, which again you're
gonna hear tomorrow night after six o'clock, there was a
lot of like, I don't even care what points they
put up in this quarter, it's all garbage time. I
am grateful after the fact that we didn't have to
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have that discussion the week after.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Let's just say that they didn't come completely.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Come back and it was all like style points are
in the fourth quarter, And there would have been a
lot of people, like maybe even you, that would have said,
I don't even care about any of those points because
the game was over by the third quarter. That's all
style points, garbage points. That would have been a big
discussion point among the fan.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Base, and some media wouldn't have been well, yeah, I mean,
I think you always try to stack points in a
comeback attempt. But if it had fallen short, I mean
maybe maybe the narrative would have been a little bit different.
Certainly the pad, the especially with the you know, the
touchdown of the pad, the status.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Once they got within I don't know, twenty six sixteen maybe,
But then once you got it to within two scores,
all of a sudden, my eyes lit up.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm like, they have a shot at this. Yeah, And
the energy had changed in the stadium. Oh, sure, you could.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Hear it, you know, once they got within Once you
get it within two score, and that's the thing. It's
no longer garbage time when it's two scores, that's right,
because anything can happen on a play. Yeah, so you know,
that's that's really the thing. If it had stayed like
a three score garbage time thing and you were then okay,
then that's war did But when you get within two scores,
anything can happen.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Big breaking news story today with the Chauncey Billips being
arrested by the FBI. That definitely got some pretty significant headlines,
and we talked about it quite a bit in the
first hour of our show. So if you missed any
of that, you can check it out on demand at
kacolorout dot com or on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
We've got a couple of things coming up here tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
We've got Thursday night football between the Chargers and the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
We'll do that pick here in just a second and
show me the money.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
The Nuggets get underway tonight as well. That's such a
weird deal. By the way, on the side, know you
have this huge night for the NBA, right, I mean,
of course the league kicked off on Tuesday, but then
last night was like the full Everybody for the most
part is playing, with the exception of a couple teams,
including the Nuggets, and so everybody's playing last night, and
then you wake up in the morning and the NBA
(31:00):
is in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. You know,
last night Victor women Yama unbelievable performance, right, forty point
fifteen rebounds, three blocks, virtue also performance, by the way,
credit to you, you picked the Spurs. If you credit
on that just like that, that would be one of
the headlines. We're talking about the NBA from last night,
and instead it's this.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, I mean, the NBA finally got the a block
in the middle of an NFL season.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
No, I look, yeah, that's that's the thing. I mean,
I think if you're an NBA fan, this is egg
on the face in some ways. But at the end
of the day, I mean, this just keeps the NBA
in the in the spotlight. All press is good press, right,
it keeps it in the spotlight. I think, again, to
recap earlier, I think wagering officionados are like, yeah, this
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proves the system works.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
This is why we have legalized sports scambling.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
The bad faith actors get caught now they didn't used
to get caught, So, you know, I overall it sucks
that Chauncey is at the center of this, but overall,
I think the rest of these things are good.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I think we're getting the bad faced actors out of space.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it is unfortunate the Chauncey who's as a local
legend and and he's got a lot of connections here
in the community. And still even though he's up there
in Portland's he's still got a lot of connections here.
And that's that was sort of the just bizarre nature
of this entire story for me, because from a character standpoint,
he's sort of like you think, you know people kind
of deal. That's what it feels like right now. But again,
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I want to get all the information. Hopefully we'll get
more as the days go on, because it feels like
we're missing some pieces of this leave right now.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, And I think, like I said, there's gonna be
another wave of people that get caught up in this,
and you could see bigger names eventually overshadowing this. But
I think they're starting at the in concentric circles and
working their way outward.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
He Yeah, what's coming up on BCT Grant.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
We got Rick Lewis at six point thirty, Brimsdis at
seven oh five. We're gonna talk a little bit about
the Hall of Fame because Nick just thinks they have
a Broncos hatred. And of course we'll have Benjamin Albright
for the first couple of minutes to give us a
breakdown on the Chauncey Billups story.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Wow, it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You guys prepare for the show and then you actually
know what's coming up.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's pretty cool. No mystery guest tonight. That's amazing. I'm
gonna rip off. It's it's weird.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I think I think most people the surprise of what
the three hours is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They love to not know what's coming up. What am
I gonna hear? Next? Jobs? Advin all right, pct next
We're gonna hear Ben talking about chug Water Chili at
(00:04):
eight o'clock on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Chili is the best. Yeah, we got Broncos warm up
with Benjamin aal Bright. Chili is the best. And then of.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Course we'll be a log for the opening line, the
beut three six five opening line, and the KAE Fantasy
Football Hour. So our coverage starts at eight am on Sunday.
We're gonna have a chance for you tomorrow to when
Broncos Cowboys tickets not on not only on KO Sports,
but also in Broncos Country tonight and again tomorrow night
at six o'clock. Listen to the entirety of the fourth
quarter as the Broncos spoiler alert beat the Giants. And
(00:36):
that's gonna be a lot of fun though to relive that.
What a quarter of football.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
You'll not sure, man, They're down nineteen points at the
start here.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm not sure they're gonna pull it off.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So we got some people calling you out for being
the extra wet blanket. All right, you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah? Fire away?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
All right, it's from Joe and Parker. Ben in your mind,
are the Broncos doing anything right? It's hard because as
a fan, I want to be happy because they're five
and two, but I can't would listen or read anything
because all I hear is how bad they are. It
was almost more fun when they did suck, because people
are looking for the positives and solutions. In fact, you
prided yourself on not giving into the negative.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Just my thoughts. Why I didn't say they were bad.
That's not a thing that happened. I said that there
are things that they're doing that are not sustainable. I mean,
we all talked about getting lucky and being five and
too good that you can't by definition, you can't be
bad at that point.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
But there are things they're not good at.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
There are things that are not sustainable, and I want
this team to continue winning. So yeah, I am harping
on process. The fact that we're throwing the ball, you know,
eleven out of twelve times when we're inside the five
is stupid.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What are we doing? What are we doing throwing.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Passes to the left tackle when we just need to
run it in with JK Dobbs. Are we really that
thirsty to pad Bro's touchdown numbers?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Then we can't let JK get in the end zone
to see this is.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
This is part and parcel to what Joe's talking about.
Like everything you just said there all negatives that they're
not I.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Mean, this is this is this is legitimate criticism of process.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sure, but also patting Bonux's stats.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's a rhetorical question. It's a rhetorical device to make
a point, which you know, but is.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There anything you know? Listen, we're good at running the ball.
Let's do it more.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
You guys want to talk about this, I've done this,
but we've already done this. Don't don't add any other
extra like.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Negative on the other side of negative to that. I say,
you guys want to do this, we can. You're wrong.
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I don't have a problem tell the audience are wrong too.
It's rare that I get to sit there and just
point to figure, Yeah, you guys are wrong. Like, there's
plenty of things we do well, and let's do the
things we do well.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I just want to try an exercise. Really sure, Okay,
I'm going to ask you for things that the Broncos
are doing well, and I don't need you to add
we should do it more or this is the thing
that they could do better.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I just what are they doing well? What do you
like about the Broncos. We'll start there.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Run the ball? Oh do you want more? I'm sorry,
Like I'm just trying to be up to so at
this point. We run the ball well. We especially run
the ball well outside.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
We should do it more.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay, we uh we pressually the pass are well. We
play coverage well for the most part, especially against wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Are careful. Yeah, especially against wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Are you know our our one two corner tandem of
Riley Boston Patser Tanner very good? Okay, we do pretty
well in pass protection or not taking negative plays.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Teetering You know what do you mean teetering? Well, you're
just like we do pretty well pretty well? That qualifier
is not a positive.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Pretty well is pretty well?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It just feels like you're moving a goal pretty well
is pretty well.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
There's not any other way to do what you trying
to say? Pretty well? Actually is I try to illustrate
a point. Actually you said pretty well, but what you
really mean it's their horse.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm trying to illustrate a point that, first of all,
you do like several things the Broncos are doing most
of the time when you're being critical.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I always say this because I know you and I
love you.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
We play well in rhythm, we play well with temple,
we play well. We're throwing the ball down the field
Latent games not early for some reason, because there's a
standard that you're holding them to.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's that's tends to be why you're being as hypercritical
as you are. Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I think it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
When you set the standard that we're a super Bowl
contending team, I'm going to set the standard at super
Bowl level criticism.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
But I do think that there's sometimes that it tends
to be framed. And we talked about the wet blanket
all bright stuff for years. It tends to be framed
in a well, I was right about this being a problem,
and now I'm going to tell you all about how
right I was that this was a problem.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
If you guys could quit cryet a line about me
being wrong, I wouldn't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
All you guys had to do is all you guys
got to do is.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Stop doing that stuff, and I will absolutely stop stop
retorting in that way.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What do you mean, you people? What do you mean
you people?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I'm trying to help you right now. Yeah, you're helping,
that's what you're doing. This is a great content for
a bit at all.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm seeing you up to say nice things about the
Broncos to the people I know plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We rush the pastor well, we get rid of it quickly.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
We have an explosive play rate is pretty good, although
not early, but games is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We find ways to dig out of holes in the
fourth quarter. We don't we don't give up on things.
We are extremely good at beating the Bengals. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, I mean, there's there's plenty of little things that
that are in there, but there are other there are
things that we don't do, and that's that's sort of
the problem. And my my irritation level, I think gets
spiked when we have a head coach that.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Just adamantly denies those things.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I don't want to talk about this, Yeah, of course
you don't want to talk about it because it's not
good right now, you know, like you know, you don't
want that, you don't want the criticism. And so that's
where my frustration comes from, because I'm like criticism. I'm
talking to Sean Paton like everybody can see it. Every
every you know, everybody on Earth can see that stupid
screenplay doesn't work right, and they viewed as an extension
of the run game, but it's not. The run game
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is the extension of the run game. Do the things
you do well, and when people try to adjust to
do that, then do the other things. The Giant like
my breaking point on the that screen pass hit when
the Giants were actively pointing out and you could hear
it on the TV broadcast, the Giants were actively pointing
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out exactly what the play was before they were running
it and who was blocking and who was it was
catching the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Do you ever think on game day, when you're live
tweeting in the game, that you should reserve a little bit,
You know, you're in the moment. I understand didn't look
good for three quarters, but you're really sort of drumming
up the it's all crappy. And I've been telling you
all along that Sean does these things and so on
and so forth. And then of course they come back
in the fourth quarter and they'll have they tell.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You they're going to do that too, like they just
like they did back.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
When Russell was here. Yeah, three, it's just the same
criticism I've had for three years. Yeah, this offense is
kind of stagnant for the first three quarters, and then
when you let the quarterback do what they're good at,
all of a sudden, it takes off.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Another text here, a longtime fan of the show and
Ben However, these last few years, it sounds like a
soap op for a personal beef with Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Isn't personal. It doesn't matter who it was.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
If the offense was this stagnant for three quarters and
then explodes in the fourth, I.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Would say the same thing.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I did the same thing, but it was rich Gangarell,
and we were real good on the script and real.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Bad off it. You guys don't remember that. I'm trying
to help. I don't want it. Let me drown like
it's so wet. Yep, there's no reason to uh, it's
there's frustration level here.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I hold Sean Payton to a higher standard that I'm
holding Nate Hackett to. Nate Hackett was a rookie coach
with no experience. Sean Payton's been around a decade and
a half. Like, if something isn't working due to just.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
There's Joe Lombardi talking about the pressure on the offense
to keep pace with the Cowboys offense.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I don't know if it's overstated. I mean, I think
every game you're you're trying to move the ball in
score points. Certainly, it's a team that I think it's
important that we don't have a bunch of three an
ounce like maybe we've had the fat the past couple
of weeks, because I think the game could get out
of hand if they're you know, scoring like they scored. Obviously,
we have faith in our defense that they'll hold up.
But I think every week in this league, you want
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to play well. You know, we have keys to victory
every week, and you know, don't turn the ball over,
play well in the red zone. You know, you just
you want to play well. And obviously you know some
games are low scoring and it might turn you into
a little bit more conservative offensively because you know your
defense is playing really well, and you know some games
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can turn into a track meet and you got to
get going and be a little more aggressive. So you know,
going into the game, I think our plan is to
play well and then as you know you're getting as
you feel the rhythm of the game, you know you
might have to adjust how aggressive you are, and you
know that always the flow of the game type thing.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean to Joe Lombardi's point, and I understand
what he's saying. It's like, we don't go into games
with the intention of playing poorly for three quarters, or
we're playing poorly at the beginning of games and then
magically something somehow figuring it out and winning it late.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Like nobody does that. That's that's not a real thing.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And I also known and covered not only the Broncos
but the NFL for years, and when offensive players are
asked about keeping pace, they're like, what do you think
we go into this thing thinking, Hey, wouldn't it be
great we just scored one touchdown. Wouldn't it be awesome
if we got just one point more than our opponent. No,
you want to score touchdown literally on every drive if
you can so.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
But I think those questions, the spirit of those questions
is more about the fact that you're fake. You're playing
the best offense you've played all year, and that's really
what it is. Maybe they're poorly framed, but that's really
the spirit. I think of those type of questions you
had no offense goes into yeah, you know, we really
like to get to ten eleven points in this one
and then just put it in park.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So he answered that appropriately, as in what we go
into every game with the intention of being good, being
very good. But then again, as you mentioned the spirit
of the question, because I asked Alex Peltchewski the same
question earlier, the spirit of the question is what you
guys have been doing offensively? And again, seventeenth in the NFL,
averaging twenty three point three points per game.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's probably not going to be enough.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
That's below average, yes, versus a team that's averaging thirty
one point seven points per game. It's actually second best
in the league. But I mean that's eight that's eight
points more over eight points more per game than you.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And now again you have a better rets without one
of their best weapons for a long large portion.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Ceedee Lamb has been missing for for several games. Now
he's going to be back. How would you defend this team?
Like I've been asked that by so many people. Are
you defended Dallas? You play your You play your game
like you play a game your way. You don't go,
you don't You're a man up against George Patins and
early on you are, and Jake Ferguson you are.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Our linebackers covering.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Early on you are, And if something's break, if something's
breaking or not working, then we you know, I mean,
we've got adjustments for that, you know. But we're gonna
play our game at first and try to dictate to
them and if they if we've got something that isn't working,
then we'll adjust.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You realize, Dak Prescott has sat Dak Prescott, but the
Cowboys offense has allowed the same amount of sacks as
the Broncos offense.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, they get rid of the ball pretty quickly, do
They've got a good offensive line, and they've got a
heck of a run game, which Avante Williams.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That else, take pressure off the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
When you see Javonte Williams running the way he is,
is there a little bit of a missed opportunity feeling
for you on that?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't know. I mean, JK is doing just as well.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
If they would let him loose the way they let
Javonte loose down there in Dallas, I think he'd have better,
even better numbers overall. I think I think if JK
wasn't here, it would be a problem. I think we'd
be looking at.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
This like Hulu. But you know, I think it had
run its course.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Javonte kind of wanted to move on, you know, he
didn't even when Dallas offered him. He didn't come back
to the Broncos to have the match.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So I think Javonte was was kind of done too,
especially with you know, some of the snide comments that
he got over the course of that, you know, last year.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I think he's looked phenomenal and it seems like all
the coaches inside the building really liked him, like as
a person, and then there's certain amount of rooting for
him to Yet.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Like everybody in town, I think Javonte mostly has good
feelings here in Denver. I don't think there's you know,
even the people that were making jokes last year. I
think everybody, except for against the Broncos, is rooting for Javante.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
On the KWA Conspirit Health text line five six six
nine zero, Ryan and Ben, why do you guys think
Sean Payton is so stubborn to try to run his
offense when it's clearly not working.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Has been pointed out.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Everybody in the NFL knows the Broncos screen passes does
not work. Why doesn't Sean Payton adjust to the skills
of Bonix and give him a game plan that revolves
around what he does best. Pretending that bo Is Drew
Brees and is not working? And do you think it's
time for Sean Payton to move on if he cannot
utilize the skill set of his quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
There's lots of yeah, lots like rob but well I'd.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Say, no, I'm not in the he needs to move
on or a lot of those kinds of things not there.
But I don't even know if he's necessarily pretending he's
Drew Brees. I think that that Bonis has shown the
ability to understand the offense, and so Sean puts a
lot on his plate because of it. But there's also
a certain amount of we are in relatively relative infancy
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of his career as a pro. So just as he's
an older quarterback, and and he can handle it, at
least on paper wise, putting it out there on the
field when you have the edge rushers that have been
coming after him, you have the defensive lines that they've
been playing against, that's a different thing. It's a different
thing to do these things in practice and have bo
Nicks be able to dissect and explain everything and then
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get that out there on the field and say, okay,
now you need to do it here.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think it's several fold.
I think it's just like when you look at the Broncos,
it's not only one thing. I think to answer the
textures questions, I don't think it's it's any one thing.
I think the head coach has had something worked for
a long time, so he just kind of expects it
to be executed at work, whether it you know, whether
the league is caught up or not. I think that
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Drew Brees did cover for a lot of things with
this offense. I mean, he's a top five all time
quarterback in my opinion. He had a Hall of Fame mind,
a Hall of Fame arm, and you know, he made
thin processes that may have been janky, he made them
better with what he did in his skill set. And
I think it kind of looks like Seawn he's trying
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to hide bow early in games, you know, with some
of this stuff, but when you let him loose, he's
able to execute. So my question is why can't Bo
execute like some little sideline shots and things like that.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Why is BO struggling to execute early?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Look at that first series, right, first series we had
against the Giants. That first throw to Pat Bryant was
uncatchably high. Right, the passes in that first three pass
they weready inaccurate. They weren't accurate. Does Bo have early
game jitters to see one of these guys who comes
in with a little jacked up, too much nerves. If
that's the case, why are we running three pass plays
to start a game? Why don't we run the ball
and let Bo get comfortable before we do.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
So there are a lot of questions I have about
that rather than answers, But.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
That's my job. My job is to ask those questions.
Sean Payton's jobs to have the answers.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
We have somebody coming to your defense here, family member.
Otherwise I don't know, but Ben, I think you're spot on.
If this team is to make a run, they have
a lot all caps to clean up. I don't like
the wet blanket reference. Build on strength, but your weaknesses
will define you. And that's all I've got to say
about that. Sean Payton is a damn good offensive coach.
(15:07):
But this team is so damn predictable it's sick. It's
when they're forced that they actually go into the playbook
and make things happen. I mean, I don't know about
that part. The last part.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I think they get into a rhythm when the pressure
is off and you're trying to you know, in the
fourth quarter, you're trying to catch up a little bit,
and you just kind of get into that, and they
get into a rhythm and they seem to start clicking.
The question is how to transfer that to earlier in
the game. How do you get them in those rhythms?
How do you settle them down? And and you know,
and for me, that's put you know, we've talked about
a hare creating some easy.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Button plays, you know, shallow crossers.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Puts stuff that's easy pitch and catch stuff put in
my guy's hands and let them go, and you know,
and doing those kinds of running the football. You know,
I'm out on the field, but all I got to
do is make this hand off, like you know, those
kinds of things I think will help, you know, relax
a little bit and get them going forward. I you know,
first of all, thanks for being a so I appreciate that,
but you know, beyond the rest of that, I mean, yeah,
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build on strengths. I find the things that you do well,
force other teams to stop you from doing those things,
and when they do adjust to try to stop you,
then you can hit them with these other things.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So the person that agrees with you is that obviously
everybody else criticizing everybody else is wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
But we do have I mean, you know, genius is
not many, it's the few, and that's that's that's in
this case.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Why that's a.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Representative of the population. And there's a few geniuses. There's
only one text supporting you, right, There's more than one.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
But yes, well, I mean there are more that there
are definitely more that that dislikement.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's fine. I'm used to being hated and you know
it's such as the curse of being right. You like
to lead it. Yeah, yeah, Galileo is hated too, but
he spoke truth to power.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Did you just did you just put yourself in Galileos category?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
They have invoked, Yeah, invoked one of the greatest minds
of all time. That's whatever, you know, galile casually casually
invoking I figured you have all people would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, of course I appreciate it, but also like, come on,
cry it out loud.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Oh you know, I mean, how many listeners, Like, how
many listeners out that groaned when I did that?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The entire city of Denver. I could hear it get
through the windows in here. It's like the entire city
just groaned with putting himself in line with the genius.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Country. That's a great saying, the entire Rocky Mount region. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But but but to your point, there's obviously things to
clean up. They are five and two on the on
the concept of being positive unnecessarily or being negative. I mean,
I do do think that there's arguments really kind of
on both sides of it. I think to your point,
and I've known you for a long time, so I
know most of the time that you're having a good Yeah,
(17:44):
I know that you have this like all right, well,
if you're going to be better than a crappy team,
then you got to be judged by that. And if
you're gonna be better than like look what they were
for about a decade there, it's kind of like you
are helping for improvements, you are trying to find the
silver linings because you know that they're not good enough
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to really stand toe to toe with a lot of
NFL teams, but you're just looking for all, right, I
need some improvement here, improvement there. I know, I know
they're building on something, but now ostensibly they're beyond that. Right,
we've jumped over the You're still in a building program
that hopes they can do something.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No, no, you think you've arrived.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You're leading in the AFC West now, So now it's
about what can you do with the next step, which
is winning this division. And that's what Sean said last
offseason in his final press conference to the media, is
we plan on winning the AFC West next year. Okay, Well,
if you're gonna win the AFC West and you're going
to go toe to toe with the Chiefs and the
Chargers for example, well these are things that are problematic.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
So I get kind of where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
But I can see where for some Broncos fans you
tend to lean in on the criticism a little heavier. Sometime.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'm going to be harder on Sean Baden than I
was on Date Hackett, and I hold them to different standards.
Hackett was a rookie coach in a in a situation
where we were rebuilding and we did not actually think
that team was going to be a contender at any point.
Sean Payton has laid the ground where because is your
three of Sean Payton. Sean Payton said that this is
one of the Super Bowl contending teams he's ever coached.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
He set the standard at excellence.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So I'm gonna set the criticism at anything less than excellence.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
And that's that's just the way I am.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
If we don't, you know, if you guys don't like that,
that's fine, But that's just that's who I am. You know,
you set the standard somewhere, I'm gonna try and meet it,
you know. And and that's so that's that's where I'm
gonna be the criticism set. We set the bar at
excellence because that's where Sean Payton set the bar. That's me.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Joey Vampire Grant always bringing it back.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Joey Vampire weekendn't got to be in a concert, by
the way, Oh yeah, just to get you.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I love them.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah they're good. Joy Vampire Joey Vampire Weekend. Jordan Schultz
brought a couple of wide receivers. I want to talk
to you about when we come back on the other side,
not see if the Broncos could be interested. We'll get
to that next. You are a little bit prickly, I
can't man, Yeah, a little bit. What time is your
rebroadcast of last Sunday's fourth quarter? I'm so glad you asked.
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Is gonna be tomorrow night at six o'clock. We're gonna
rebrid rebroadcast the fourth quarter of the Broncos Giants game
in its entirety. And then, as I understand it, you
guys are gonna have some commentary on BCT about it,
aren't you. That's what I'm told. Wait, you know what's
(20:25):
coming on your own show?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, now we are. We're gonna have some commentary mystery guest.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I don't know who the mystery guest is tonight. I'm
not gonna be there, so I don't know. No, I
said a real god. Is Rickles gonna be on the show?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yes, probably for his annual with the Funk segment. You
may be nervous every time you say that. I'll just
let you know every single time there's like I gotta
come down heart on that end.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes, you read and.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Actually, as I understand that, you're going to kick off
the top of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Recapping the Chauncey Biller stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
No, we'll have commentary tomorrow the fourth quarter, myself and Nick,
we'll be able to do that. It's gonna be a
lot of fun. IT'SNNA a lot of fun with this. Plus,
we got some Cowboys Broncos tickets to give away. So
not only will you be listening to the magic and
listening to the magic, you got a chance to wist
some tickets.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, we'll have tickets on kay Sports and Broncos Country
tonight coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Very excited for that and excited for the game.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
All right, So before we come go back into that,
and I do want to get some more thoughts on
the Nuggets since they're kicking off their season tonight. Our
friend Jordan Schultz is in a tweet today that the
wide receivers in New Orleans Crystal Lave and Rashid Rashid Shaheed.
Now he said Chrystal Lave was on the final year
of his contract. That is now actually correct. He has
two years left, including this year. But Crystal Lave, Rashid
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Shaheed could be on the market.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
What are you hearing?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Shahed is getting a lot of calls and he may
be on the market.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
They have a contract, they're they're negotiating with the lave.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
If they move him, they move him, But they're negotiating
with him right now to try to get a deal done.
So it doesn't seem like a guy you want to
move on from. Yeah, I don't. I mean, honestly, I
wouldn't move off for me, the one. Yeah, you know, honestly,
New Orleans. I will fight at him this year. I'm
not sure i'd be up in a fire sale right
now unless you just think that some of these guys
aren't in your plans for the future. But he can
take the top off man, and I you know, if
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I was in New Orleans, I would move on from me.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The one of them. Who is I guess you got
to make room for val.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So obviously with his four catches for twenty nine yards
in a suchdown. So well, who is who is in
a firesale?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Do you think?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I think Miami should be.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I mean, you know, you gotta see both the edge
rushers gone, Phillips and Chubb. If the right number comes
through for Waddle. He could be gone. I know they
said they weren't, but that's that's garbage. I don't think
there's anybody that's untouchable in Miami right now. You're gonna
blow the whole thing up. You know, you're blowing it
up at the end of the year. That they should
absolutely be in fire sale mode unless you have just
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a key piece you think you're building around. But who
is that. You're not building around Wattle? Well, no you're not.
And they look like they're primed for a bit of
a reset. I do wonder for Tua, right, I mean, like, what,
you're gonna be a quarterback there next year? Okay, so
you think they're gonna go different at quarterback and with Coke,
I think they're going to blow the whole thing. They
might even get a new general manager. We'll see Chris career.
I mean, if anybody survives, it'll be him. But I
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like the vibes are bad, Yeah, the vibe, the vibe
from Miami.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Get how many head coaches has he been allowed to hire?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I no, no, I mean it's a fair point. How
does that roster look. I mean that they just gave
to his extension one last year year before.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I mean, it's it would be sort of a tough
pill to swallow, right, And I mean you drafted Quinny rs.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I mean that's not like I mean it was
what a six round pick or whatever. It was something
you had Zach Wilson there, but that's nothing. I mean,
he won't be there either. But you're playing bad enough,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And that's always the spot, right, You want to be
bad enough that you could be arranged to take a
quarterback if you wanted to. Yeah, And it doesn't mean
that they're going to. That means that you can if
you want, right, and you need to, you.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Know, I mean this year, the best quarterback coming out
this year is gonna be Tie Simpson out Alabama, So
you gotta put yourself in line for that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's actually Chrystal Lobby is the same type as Cortland Sutton.
Wouldn't we want something different like an after the catch guy? Yeah,
I mean they're both ex receivers like that. Yeah, I agree,
that's the thing, like I would be redundant to have
in a lave here.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
On top of that, I mean sewn Lys's redundancy.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Though speaking broadly, I would say that you know, maybe
there's interest. Rightly, I don't think that the bron I mean,
if the Broncs rich and somebody would be shihed not
you know, not a lave and then noticed I caveat
that with if yeah, you know, I know I saw
some some interest about stuff out there earlier. I'm not
convinced that there is outside of potentially maybe adding a guard.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You think a lot of this is going to come
down to, I mean, where it's gonna be on the
other side of week eight. Uh no, we I think
it's actually they moved the trade that they did move
the trade on the linet after for week nine now,
so which I actually like. I like later, later the
better because you know, most of the time teams don't
really know, maybe don't know by week eight what they're
going to be, but maybe by week nine, when you're
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tipping to the other side of the season, then you're like,
all right, well we are five games out of either
a playoff spot or the division, and then you kind
of know a little bit more. But if you win
a couple of games in a row, we've seen things
shift quickly or some of these teams.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, uh, neither I mean, the trade deadline is a
week from this coming Tuesday, That's right, So you know,
plenty of times still on all that kind of stuff.
What you're seeing now are a lot of teams posturing
I don't need anybody, or we're not trading somebody. Oh
we've got we're listening to offers, we're not. You know,
a lot of posturing on that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We'll see, you know how it goes.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But yeah, I mean, you know, if you're Broncos and
you keep winning, I mean maybe maybe you do start
looking like, all right, we want to make sure that
we've were covered. We got coverage, you know, down the
stretch for a tough stretch here. If you're if you
lose both those games, I mean, I don't know. I
don't think that they're certainly might be sellers. I just
don't think. I don't know if there's anything out there
that you're what would you buy, you know, I mean
(25:39):
a left guard maybe, but beyond that, like, what would
you buy a speed receiver?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I mean, you already don't use Marvin Mims enough. Listen,
I'm on the same page.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I was having this discussion with Rick yesterday as he
was in studio, and he is of the opinion that
they could use an injection there with the receivers. And
I argued, more, your side of it is like you're
barely utilizing the guys that you have on the roster,
and we still haven't even sort of cracked open Pat
Bryan's like like that still is like an underutilized portion
of this office.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Like honestly a Troy Franklin replacement. Okay, but you know
Marvin Minn. We'd already don't use Marvin Mims enough. You know,
Troy's he's moved up to I guess average, but he's
there's still too many drops, too many, too many fumbles,
you know, those kinds of things going on with him.
So you know, I mean, but the position, the archetype
for the position he plays was like, you know, a
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guy like Josh Reynolds last year, I mean, who fits
that mold you go out there and trade for this year?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, and you you don't trade for those guys anyways,
right right, most of the times you can add guys
like that, What are you doing give it up assets
for that?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
No, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I mean, listen, I wanted to go through the exercise
of it based on what Jordan Schultz was saying, and
of course the relationship with the Saints got a lot
of Broncos fans in a bit of a tizzy today
when they're like, well, gosh, Christal Love here would be
pretty great?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Or do you want to see less court than sudden
because that's what that means.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So he says we need an Emmanuel Sanders. I mean,
I mean usn't everyone? Yeah, manuals great in the booth.
By the way, that was a lot of fun that. Unfortunately,
so he was in the third quarter, so we won't
get to hear Emmanuel Sanders in the booth. I played
I played the cut yesterday just for fun. Did you
hear Emmanuel Sanders call? Or he was on the call
for the Tyrone Tracy touchdown?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Oh I missed that. Oh it was epic. Here we go,
oh Tracy right off left door. We'll walk into the
end zone with Waise touch down too.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
He's a thirty one yard run by Tyrone Tracy, his
first rushing touchdown of the year, and just like that,
with two forty one left in the third, the Giants
are ahead nineteen to nothing, and.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Then what happened No, that was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
The mano standers Like before, they're just sort of chatting
and chatting, and then all of a sudden you could
just hear like, oh no, yeah and yeah, Tyrone Tracy
just burst up the middle.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
And that was a very I will say that was
a very low point, not just for him, but for
a lot of Broncos alums. There were there was scroup
chats were popping at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well because at that point you thought they'd given up
a little bit. I mean that that the Broncos defense. I mean,
if it's against Jonathan Taylor, Okay, right, I mean Jonathan
Taylor's unbelievable, say Won Barkley, unbelievable. Tylon Tracy, I think
is a good running back. I don't think he's in
that category. So and so allow him to go untouched
(28:22):
for thirty one yards. Yeah, at that point, late in
the third quarter, it's feeling like, all right, this one's done.
And on Da Marius Thomas Day in Super Bowl fifty day,
it was the biggest part of it. You're just you're
you're confounded.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It was less about the Super Bowl fifty thing and
the DT thing, Like there was a lot of I
hope they're not going to do DT the way they
did Mike on.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
My Shanahan day.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know, there was some there was some pretty harsh
feelings about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
The one thing that I was.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I mean grateful for the comeback and then the fact
that they able to win the game. I think that
is obviously remarkable. But I saw when they scored that
first time down in the fourth quarter, which again you're
gonna hear tomorrow night after six o'clock, there was a
lot of like, I don't even care what points they
put up in this quarter, it's all garbage time. I
am grateful after the fact that we didn't have to
(29:12):
have that discussion the week after.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Let's just say that they didn't come completely.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Come back and it was all like style points are
in the fourth quarter, And there would have been a
lot of people, like maybe even you, that would have said,
I don't even care about any of those points because
the game was over by the third quarter. That's all
style points, garbage points. That would have been a big
discussion point among the fan.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Base, and some media wouldn't have been well, yeah, I mean,
I think you always try to stack points in a
comeback attempt. But if it had fallen short, I mean
maybe maybe the narrative would have been a little bit different.
Certainly the pad, the especially with the you know, the
touchdown of the pad, the status.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Once they got within I don't know, twenty six sixteen maybe,
But then once you got it to within two scores,
all of a sudden, my eyes lit up.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'm like, they have a shot at this. Yeah, And
the energy had changed in the stadium. Oh, sure, you could.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Hear it, you know, once they got within Once you
get it within two score, and that's the thing. It's
no longer garbage time when it's two scores, that's right,
because anything can happen on a play. Yeah, so you know,
that's that's really the thing. If it had stayed like
a three score garbage time thing and you were then okay,
then that's war did But when you get within two scores,
anything can happen.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Big breaking news story today with the Chauncey Billips being
arrested by the FBI. That definitely got some pretty significant headlines,
and we talked about it quite a bit in the
first hour of our show. So if you missed any
of that, you can check it out on demand at
kacolorout dot com or on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
We've got a couple of things coming up here tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
We've got Thursday night football between the Chargers and the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
We'll do that pick here in just a second and
show me the money.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
The Nuggets get underway tonight as well. That's such a
weird deal. By the way, on the side, know you
have this huge night for the NBA, right, I mean,
of course the league kicked off on Tuesday, but then
last night was like the full Everybody for the most
part is playing, with the exception of a couple teams,
including the Nuggets, and so everybody's playing last night, and
then you wake up in the morning and the NBA
(31:00):
is in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. You know,
last night Victor women Yama unbelievable performance, right, forty point
fifteen rebounds, three blocks, virtue also performance, by the way,
credit to you, you picked the Spurs. If you credit
on that just like that, that would be one of
the headlines. We're talking about the NBA from last night,
and instead it's this.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, I mean, the NBA finally got the a block
in the middle of an NFL season.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
No, I look, yeah, that's that's the thing. I mean,
I think if you're an NBA fan, this is egg
on the face in some ways. But at the end
of the day, I mean, this just keeps the NBA
in the in the spotlight. All press is good press, right,
it keeps it in the spotlight. I think, again, to
recap earlier, I think wagering officionados are like, yeah, this
(31:51):
proves the system works.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
This is why we have legalized sports scambling.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
The bad faith actors get caught now they didn't used
to get caught, So, you know, I overall it sucks
that Chauncey is at the center of this, but overall,
I think the rest of these things are good.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I think we're getting the bad faced actors out of space.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it is unfortunate the Chauncey who's as a local
legend and and he's got a lot of connections here
in the community. And still even though he's up there
in Portland's he's still got a lot of connections here.
And that's that was sort of the just bizarre nature
of this entire story for me, because from a character standpoint,
he's sort of like you think, you know people kind
of deal. That's what it feels like right now. But again,
(32:30):
I want to get all the information. Hopefully we'll get
more as the days go on, because it feels like
we're missing some pieces of this leave right now.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, And I think, like I said, there's gonna be
another wave of people that get caught up in this,
and you could see bigger names eventually overshadowing this. But
I think they're starting at the in concentric circles and
working their way outward.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
He Yeah, what's coming up on BCT Grant.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
We got Rick Lewis at six point thirty, Brimsdis at
seven oh five. We're gonna talk a little bit about
the Hall of Fame because Nick just thinks they have
a Broncos hatred. And of course we'll have Benjamin Albright
for the first couple of minutes to give us a
breakdown on the Chauncey Billups story.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Wow, it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
You guys prepare for the show and then you actually
know what's coming up.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's pretty cool. No mystery guest tonight. That's amazing. I'm
gonna rip off. It's it's weird.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I think I think most people the surprise of what
the three hours is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They love to not know what's coming up. What am
I gonna hear? Next? Jobs? Advin all right, pct next
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