10-24-25 KOA Sports Hour 3 with Nate Jackson

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five, six, six nine Zeros are Kiwie Commas spurryhal text
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the Coach's Corner with head coach Sean Payton and Voice
of the Broncos Dave Logan as they break down the
eighteen yard touchdown run from bow Nicks and immediately after
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after six o'clock tonight, we're going to replay the fourth core,

(00:20):
the thirty three point comeback for the Broncos on Broncos
Country tonight with commentary. It's gonna be a lot of
fun looking forward to that. So for the game, I
thought we'd kind of chop it up a little bit
for this one. Here was Sean Payton, because he of
course is going to continue to get peppered with questions
about the offense. He was asked about sustaining drives, and
here's what he said.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Let's be honest, I think we want to start better,
and so you know, whether time's coming off the clock
or it's not, we've got to work on our first half.
And I thought, you know, the point of emphasis this
week with the whole group. They handle it well and
and you got to find a way to make Wednesdays

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like Sunday. And sometimes that's challenging. But that's one of
the things that you look at as a coach, even
after a big win.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
All right, this is there are a lot of things
that need fixing.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
All right, what does that mean to you that that
was a big talking point on Wednesday, is making Wednesday
like Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
What does that mean to you? That's tough because it's practice.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
It's not a game, and practices are really hard to
make them like a game because you get a script
ahead of ahead of time, you get a script in
your locker, and then you go over the plays and
it's specific installation based on a Wednesday schedule. And it's
not all you're not you're not putting in short yard is,
you're not putting in goal line, you're not putting in

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red zone.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
You're putting in your base stuff on Wednesday. Wednesdays your
bread and butter.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
So maybe Sunday will be some bread and butter Wednesday
kind of stuff. Maybe I'm kind of flipping the idea
that I like that, but I think Rugos fans real
life to see that, right, Like, you don't have to
get too tricky, too cute. It doesn't have to be
because the sweet play design. Maybe just the player gets
the ball in his hand and makes it play and
moves the ball. Maybe you run the ball a couple
of times, you know, maybe it out there, force straight

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passes to start the game. But I think you know,
Mike Shanahan used to always say you that we practice
at game speed, so the game feels slow. You gotta
practice at space, at game speed with a sense of
urgency that's going to mirror the game on Sunday. And
sometimes for a coach as cerebrally demanding as Sean Payton is,

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he wants everything to look perfect, and so practice can
take on this sort of math equation, science experiment, any
type of thing where no, no, no, no, everything's got
to be perfect. Well, maybe take the reins off a
little bit on Wednesday. It doesn't have to be perfect,
but the pace has to be good, the energy has
to be good. We're doing stuff that we know is
going to work, and we're pushing the ball down the

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field on the hot, on the hot, let's go. And
then maybe creating some situations where it's not a ten
play offensive period with ones versus two's followed by a
ten play defensive period with what there are. Maybe it's
your calling plays a little more. You're making it feel
like a game a little more. You're sticking, you know,
now you're gonna punt, punt, team run on, you know,

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trying to create game scenarios on Wednesday that might allow
guys to feel in the moment more than having it
be some.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Kind of math test. They're trying to ace. I like that.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And we heard from Motex earlier this week so that
the offense was gonna be practicing with an edge, and
it's it's remarkable. You know, you're you've won four straight
and you're coming off of a big home win, right,
a comeback win.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I talked Quinn Minors earlier today and here's a little
bit from him, just for a moment. Then the full
interview will be during the pregame, But here's what he
said when I asked him about what is practicing with
an edge?

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Look like I think details that's kind of the then
the the thing I you know, look at at after
these games on tape is, but there's just not enough
detail work by the entire offense.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know, it takes all eleven of us to get
these plays.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
We're all in.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
So I think the detail the focus making practice a
little bit more stressful, making practice feel a little more
game like, trying to replicate, Hey, what you're doing in
practice is what's going to happen in a game, so
let's start practicing as such. So I think that's been
a big part of our improvement this week that we're
trying to make.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
It's kind of remarkable, right because you just said, like
what Mike Shanahan used to do, like we practice in
a certain pace, a certain way so that the game
feels a little bit slower, And here he's saying, like,
maybe that's not something they were always doing. At least
that's one of the things I took out of that.
The detail work is a big deal, and I talked
to Rod Smith on Tuesday about it. It felt like
when you're rewatching the game, it's like one guy decides
to make a mistake, and you're talking about all eleven, right,

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but the one guy makes a mistake and miss is
a block, Well, then that plays blown up, and then
the next one.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Guy drops a pass.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay, well that's another one, and then that the same
person all the time, and then the next play is
Bonix does something that he's not supposed to do with
his footwork, and then the pass sales. So it's just
like every single guy shares in this ye. But it's
those details that really do matter, because if you're tied
in missus block and even though you had a great
design and you could have that play could have gone
for a big game. Well it can't go now because

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that guy missed the block. And now ten guys did
the right thing, but one guy didn't.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, My concern with hearing Quinn there is is why
are the details being skipped in the first place. Why
are guys making these mistakes? Why are we not on
the same page. I mean, this is an offensive genius
coach who has employed a bunch of you know coaches
under him or are very intelligent and know how to
articulate the offense, and you got a lot of smart players.
We're spending all day, all night working on this stuff.

(05:36):
Why are the details being missed? What are we missing
out there that's causing us to go out on the
field and looked like we did on Sunday. To me,
you know, when I'm hearing him talk and I heard
you set this up, I'm thinking about the scout team
the defense on the other side. A lot of times,
the offensive coaches can be so wund tight that they
want everything to look a certain way on Wednesday, Thursday,

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and Friday, and so they instruct defense on the cards
to do a certain thing.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
They tell you what to do.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
They don't let you, as a defensive player who's a
professional football player is getting paid a lot of money
to be out there, trust your instinct could go make
a play at practice because they want a certain look
at practice because they think that's what they're gonna get
in the game. And a lot of times it doesn't
mirror the energy that you would actually get from a
defense in the game because they're doing what they're told,
and what they're told is to let you win pretty much.

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Let them throw that ball, don't step in front of
that ball, let them complete that pass. And so the
defense is instructed to make it a little bit easier
for the offense. I think they got to apply more resistance.
And so to me, if I'm a defensive guy on
the practice squad and scout team stuff a backup. I'm
a special teams player and I'm out there going against

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the starting offense. I got to apply more pressure. I
got to be better. If I'm not better, they're not
going to be better. When I used to be on
the practice squad as a wide receiver, every single day
was my game day. I was not playing in the games.
My game day is today. I'm going to go take
it to you guys, and I'm gonna work as hard
as I can to make sure that on Sunday it's

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easy for you. Because part of what Mike Shanahan was
talking about, we practice game speed so that the game
is easy. That means everybody. That means scout team too.
You want to give them a bet. I'm trying to
give you a better look than you're gonna get on Sunday.
And if I do that, then it's gonna be easy
for you on Sunday. And so maybe there's this fear
of the defense being chastised by Sean by freestyling and

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jumping in front of a ball and blowing up a
play and making him angry at practice. Well, maybe that's
exactly what they need, is to mirror a real life
game scenario by allowing these defensive players to actually practice
at game speed and go blow up a play if
they can.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I like that, and I'd say it feels though, please
correct me if I'm wrong on this. It feels like
the detail work is more of a discussion point for
earlier in the game when they get into these later
games situation, especially when they are playing a little more
free And I'm not saying the details don't matter then,
but they're not thinking about the details, right. There's something
too overemphasis on the details. So you have Quinn Miners

(08:10):
sitting there going like, we're focused on the details, We're
on the details, We're all the details. It does seem
they get bogged down sometimes, Like the offense feels like
it's got the weight of the details if you will
on them, and well, this is designed and Shawn's told
us this is gonna this is gonna work if we
all do the right thing, and then one guy doesn't
do the right thing, and like it collapses on you.
It's like a star, right that that collapses on itself.

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And that's sometimes what it feels like with this offense.
Is it all they feel that weight, especially early in
the game, and then as it gets into a point
where they have to just go.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Play, then they're having fun and it's not fun. And
so I almost kind of feel.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
For Quinn there because when he's talking about the details
and the focus on the details, and I think that
that's what you're supposed to say. But then there's the
other side of it. It's like the human side of
it when you're like, Okay, well but is it fun?
Are you guys, you guys enjoy doing this right now?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
The answer is no.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
They're five to two in first place, and that sounded
like a guy who's, you know, walking on eggshells.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'll say that the details can take it to the edge.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
But they won't jump. They're not going to make the play.
That details can't make the play. They can put you
in position, but you got to be the one who
makes the play. And guess what, Sometimes you forget a detail,
but you're balling out of control so hard that it
doesn't matter. You make a play, you break a tackle,
you're gone because you got the juice, you got the energy.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I guarantee you.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
In the fourth quarter, they didn't have all the details
on every play I promise you there were some mis
assignments on some of those plays that went for touchdowns.
But when you have it rolling and when you're in
the pocket, those plays happen. Anyway, you overcome the mistakes
on the details or the misted assignments. And sometimes the
coaches harp so hard on that stuff it can make

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you feel like that is all we need to be
victorious is just to do what I'm told, just to
be in the right position, and then the play is
going to happen wrong.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You got to be the one to make the play right.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
You got to take the details the next step, and
that's you being a special football player and making a
special play when it matters. And to me, you have
to combine the two. Of Course you need a plan.
Of course you need to be detail oriented. Of course
you need to know your assignments. But that ain't that
ain't it? And if that's all you focus on, then
you can get beat and not understand why. I love

(10:29):
that you said it like that, because that's exactly what
it feels like. And again, there are moments, obviously where
it's like none of this is broken.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think that's that's the weirdest part. About it is.
You're five and two.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
These fe like conversations you're having with a team that's
struggling to get off the grounds, a team that is
struggling with the details, and they're struggling even to have
modes of fun in.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Any of it.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Right, that's not the case. They have three games in
a row, now, they have fourth quarter comebacks. You don't
do that unless you have some belief inherently in yourself
as as well as in what you're trying to do.
Right that that doesn't exist. So I feel like that's
the hard part. Now, it's to get this other stuff down.
And then once you do that, I think that you're

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talented enough and you have all the right pieces to
go toe to toe with anybody. But as we're talking
about this Dallas game specifically, the fact factor remains, like
a lot of people are saying, well, I don't think
the Broncos are going to win this game, because I think.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
You're gonna off to a slow start and this thing
is going to spiral on.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And when Dallas moves down the field and scores a touchdown,
and then when the Broncos go three and out in punts,
Dallas comes right down the field, it scores another touchdown
and they're down fourteen nothing before they bleak. And if
that becomes the case, yeah, I can see that happening.
But once again, it's a team that doesn't. They on
their side believe that it's over until it's really over,
which maybe is a good and a bad thing.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, And like we we said before, you know, the
expectation that the Cowboys are going to put up for
they might put up ten. You know, the Broncos defense
might might shut them down. The Cowboys are due for
a stinker on offense. Maybe it's going to be this
this weekend. But these offensive players with the Broncos have
spent their whole lives making plays on a football field.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
This is not foreign to them.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Okay, so when people act like we need playmakers on
this team, you have playmakers. That's why they're on the field.
They've been making plays their whole lives. What happens when
Marvin Mims gets the ball in his hand, he makes
a play.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
He does.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
And for people who say you gotta do gadgets and
come up with schemes to get Marvin Mims the ball, No,
you don't run a slant and throw in the pass,
run something simple, and throw the ball to the guy.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Who knows what to do with it. It's very easy.
I'm in favor of a.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
More attacking north south sort of approach when it comes
to offense. Sewan is more of a east west. You
think I'm going this way, but I'm not. But you
only think I'm going this way. If I do go
that way, you know what I mean. Yes, you can't
do a move you haven't set up yet. Yes, And

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to me, the best way to set up your moves
is to go right at him right off the bat,
go right past them, threaten technique, attack where they're afraid
of you beating. Then you can do the double moves.
Then you can do the misdirection. Then those work more
effectively well. When everything is sidewinder stuff right off the bat,
the teams are waiting for it, and they're pinning their

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ears back and attacking guys.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Sean was asked about the tip passes, so I thought
i'd bring that sound by. Here's what he said. How
many of do you have that were tipped? Fire or six?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Really? I sometimes with a certain rush teams are pretty
good at deciding, hey if if if we're not getting home.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And it's coming out. But I think.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Nothing that I would address, meaning his motion, you know,
and they probably all were happening, you know, in the
you know, a lot of it's probably route driven too.
Nothing nothing remarkable relative to that standing out as one
of the things that we want to clean up.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
So okay, I it feels a bit more concerning than
I'm not addressing it when you have I guess five
or six. I mean the fact that he had to
ask that, which is a little This is weird because
it's like, dude, as maniacal as you are, you know
exactly how many tip passes Bonix had in this last game.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
But okay, fine, well let's play this. Let's play this
for a second.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So he doesn't know how many tip passes Bonix had
in this last game, or that it's been a problem
over the course of the season, and even last year
there was there was times when he had a lot
of tip passes of the line. Okay, so we're not
aware of it where we don't think it's a problem.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
What does that mean? What does that say?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Is that is that just like, hey, it'll just sort
of work its way out when it works its way out.
Is that what your takeaway from that is, Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I mean, you know, I think that if he were
to admit that it was a problem, he's also admitting
he hasn't been able to solve it because it's happening
every week a lot. He's leading I think the league
in this he is. Yes, so you got to kind
of dismiss it as a thing, you know, just a
kind of a fluky thing. But I think what my
buddy Jake Plumber said, it has a lot of merit,
and that is you're you're kind of staring down your

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receivers and your head's not really moving, you know, once
your head is aligned, like you're watching where you're going
to throw the ball. And that might have something to
do with Bo not feeling super comfortable in the offense
and knowing where his guys are going to be because
you don't look, you don't stare down your receivers. You
start down the defensive players, you move them with your eyes,

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and then you turn and fire because you know where
your guy's going to be. And I think Bo still
kind of learning this offense, still kind of learning where
his comfort level is and when he knows where he's
supposed to throw the ball because every play has an
answer based on the coverage, and he knows where coach
wants him to throw the ball on every play. I
don't think Bo has the ability to just throw it

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to the guy he wants to throw it to. I
think the way this offense is dictated to the quarterbacks
is here's where we go. When they do the thing
that they're doing, there's one answer.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
You better know it. And so when Bow knows it,
he has a hard time not showing it. Right off
the bat.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
He knows where he's going to go with it, and
he just drops back and is right there. And so
I think his head control. Your eyes can move and
it's not going to move a defensive lineman, but once
he sees your head go there, he's going to position
himself to get his hand up.

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Speaker 3 (16:30):
Stat just means a team sucks. Of course, I don't
believe that. Do you believe that?

Speaker 4 (16:36):
What No, this is the NFL. These teams are all incredible. Yes,
these are the best football players in the world. There's
two thousand of them. They're split up evenly amongst the
thirty two teams. They're all you know, these are all
close games, and you know, sometimes you get behind the
eight ball and you find a way to win.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
That doesn't mean you suck.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
It means you're actually pretty good and that you've conjured
this magic moment and against the team that's offering that resistance,
that immovable object.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I think I know where's coming from.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
They are coming from on the point of if you
had to come back from being down, it means that
you struggled for portions of the game, right, I mean,
depending on your view of that, and I mean it
could be just sort of a back and forth game
and a comeback win. So like, for example, coming back
win against the Jets, Well that yeah, I mean that
is technically a comeback win because you were down entering

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the fourth quarter and you had to put the drive
together and get a field goal and that ended up winning.
And it doesn't feel like a great comeback win, but
you did come back win and then you sort of
hung in there despite the fact that you didn't have
your best stuff that day. This one was an example
where you didn't have your best stuff for majority of
the game and until really you had to play a
certain way and then guess what, it's on the other team.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
To stop you.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
And of course I always love that tipping point, right,
And I know that different broadcasts have sort of talked
about it and studied it over years. But there's a
tipping point where you start feeling momentum and they start
filling it against them. Yeah, And that's what's so fascinating
about sports in general. I mean, it's not even just football.
Is just that tipping point of like, well, oh no,

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we might lose this game, and oh no, you know,
I think we actually could win this game if we
could just make a couple more plays.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
Is it a concern that the Broncos are not consistent
throughout for all four quarters. Yeah, absolutely, It's something they
got to figure out. But I think the encouraging part
is that in spite of that inconsistency, they're able to win.
They're finding a way to win in a league that's
really really hard to win. It's hard to find a
way to win in the NFL because everybody's so good
and the Broncos have done it three weeks in a

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row by coming back now, of course they don't want
to have to come back. It'd be nice to blow
somebody out, it'd be nice to win by thirty, but
the win is the most important thing.

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Speaker 3 (20:04):
But without further ado Voys of the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Dave Logan, head coach Sean Payton breaking down the eighteen
yard touchdown run from bow Knicks in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Nicks on a design quarterback run.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Bows at the ten Bowl has said to five touchdown
dead bar.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Holy mackerel.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
The Broncos are an extra point away from putting thirty
on the Giants in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (20:27):
So Sean, on this particular play with bow on a
design quarterback run to the left, you wind up taking
the lead in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Talk to us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
So you know, periodically, in certain situations where we know
we're getting man, we can put in a quarterback crack
that you know, the crack schemes are better in man coverage.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
And if you notice, you're.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Two for one of them, right, yeah, yeah, And there's everyone.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
We've got three people.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
We've got three players lined up all to the right,
so that takes three players out of it. The halfback
shift outside in from Sutton and we get the indicator.
So the linebacker comes in.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
We're good.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
We're good. If it was a corner, then we would
check the play to something else, like we wouldn't try
to run it against zone. And so but here's the
funny thing that happened. The halfback lines up outside Sutton.
He's getting ready to climb in and the official stop.
There was a clock malfunction. And I'm pissed off because
we just and we didn't run the play, but we

(21:26):
just kind of.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Showed what you were going to do.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Showed and and and we wait and I said, bo,
let's stick with it. And sure enough, the linebacker came
out over the running back. He climbed back into the
backfield away from and so he took the linebacker away.
There's three others that went away, and so when you
really look at it, there's a corner Sutton cracks the tackle,

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and the two things noticeable in this play is Bowsey
does a great job does of of climbing on top
of the corner, but the back side tackle mcglinchy. The
backside tackle mcglinchy finds his way to the safety and
everyone else on the field is to the right. And

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so yeah, that we got the perfect look. I felt
like we were in a situation where we were going
to be getting man or potential pressure because you know,
we had now entered the threatening zone.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
We're at the eighteen, and we weren't going to get,
you know, a soft zone coverage.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
You know what I thought was, aside from the fact
that you scored, you mentioned bulls and the angles. I mean,
mcglinchy's angle was perfect, and I thought miners head of
the proper angle.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Absolutely the angles of the offensive line right, and you
want it.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You want your tight end to be away from that
play because then you get the three technique there, and
so you wanted to the guard thro tech to the
strong three technique away from the crack that's right. So
when it's to the bubble side, your angles are a
little better. And so the only thing that we should
have done differently, the three receivers all getting covered in

(23:05):
man kind of climb. All they had to do is
release outside instead of worrying about.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
If you're getting the play.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, if it's man coverage, run them all off the
other direction. But it was a big play obviously there
there was like if you watched the last the fourth quarter,
there were like seven plays that were if this didn't happen, Yeah,
the results different.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, thanks to the time. Yeah, thank you man. I
love that we get to do that. That is so cool.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I can't think of anybody else around the country gets
a chance to hear the coach detail oriented breaking down
the play like that again with the voice of the team.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
That is really cool. And now, without further ado, your
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(24:07):
the Broncos, Kowa. So you listen to that breakdown. I'd
like to see bo do a little more with his
legs and he's got that elite athletics athleticism. That was
a cool design and it was blocked perfectly. We're kind
of grousing about some of the blocking earlier in the game,
but then they get into these moments and everybody's doing

(24:27):
their job.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, And I was right down there for that play,
and it was interesting because Sean Payton just mentioned how
there was a clock malfunction and they had to kind
of reset, and this was after they had showed the formation,
and he was hot. He was mad about that because
he because he'd shown, you know, what they were at
least he thought he was tipping his hand a little bit.
They decided to do the same thing and not change

(24:49):
it up. Man coverage was essential for that. Corland Sutton
was the guy who cracked down on that defensive end
outside linebacker guy, and it just shows you a lot
of times as a receiver. You're asked, lock of guy
way bigger than you on those crack on those crackback blocks.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
But if you position your and you.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Don't have to knock him out, all you have to
do is kind of get in front of him, you know,
make sure you don't clip him, get your get your
head in front of him.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Courland Sutton is just a big, strong dude out there
doing that.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
And then you got Garrett Bowles is an incredibly athletic,
fleet footed guy to to lead up on that corner there,
and you get Bo just like you mentioned, he's got
a lot of He's got a lot of talent and
skill when it comes to running the football.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
You saw him do it.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Dial up runs for him a lot more frequently last
year than this year because you're trying to save him.
You're trying to protect him. You don't want your quarterback
to get hurt. But it works with Bo, and so
how much do you use him on that kind of stuff?
But but love to hear those breakdowns. And you know
Sean Payton's a when he's in his bag, he's a
good play caller.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Oh yeah, no, I mean, no doubts.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
And that's that's where it's like trying to find the
marriage of all of it right where you say the
guys gets to play free, it can play loose, and
then Sean is also calling plays at such an elite
level as giving these guys the tools to be able
to have that success and.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Finding that urgency right.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, a lot of it was made about tempo,
but it's just feeling like they need to get out
there and they need to sort of put their foot
on the gas right away, rather than, Oh, let's sort
of dip our toe into this thing and see how
it goes. We don't want to put our defense in
a bad situation. Maybe we're not really so sure how
our detail work over the course of the week is

(26:28):
going to translate into the game. Oh well, it didn't
quite work right away, so now we got to retool
a bit on the sideline as we're trying to figure
out what went wrong in the last series and why
we went three and out.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
It just feels like it's snowballs on itself. Yeah, and
that was a moment that where you had to have
it and you're in the fourth quarter. It's not on
the script anymore. It's not your first fifteen plays you're
basing your calls on the situation. It's not situation, it's Sidge.
It's it's Idge. Listen to it next time.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
He says it. Okay, But.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
But yeah, so he's calling, he's plays in a different
way than he is when he's scripting the first fifteen
and conceiving of how it's gonna start. You know, oftentimes,
like the guy, the guy who makes the songs and
makes the music is not the best DJ. He doesn't
always pick the right sequence of gives you of songs.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
To get the party started. He doesn't know which of
his songs are the best songs for this crowd. It's
a good points.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
So Sean Bell is designing the offense and he's the
he's the mastermind behind it. But sometimes maybe he doesn't
have his finger on the pulse of how to get
the party started, what's the best song to get the
party started? Maybe some other coaches in that room might
have some some feedback for him.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
He's a little evil genius. You're suggesting he doesn't play
call plays right.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Well, I'm saying maybe maybe we can collaborate on the
first fifteen and come up with something together that's gonna
it's gonna help us get out of it. I just
think that talking about the details is like, okay, like
we didn't study enough.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
What's the best collaboration of all time?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Like musically, oh, musically, like an album or a song,
it doesn't matter, Like what what when ero Smith and
Run DMC was that was.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
The first one. If you don't start with Aerosmith run DMC,
then what are we doing here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
After that, there's some really good ones. That's the that's
the that's the one about Kid Rock and Sheryl Crowe.
What about Justin Timberlake and the Black Eyed Peas? Where
is the love?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I hadn't even thought of that one.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
That was because they did it with Fergy first, and
then they thought it was going to be better if
they put Timberlake in.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Never both on the right.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
But I mean that's they did two separate versions and
then they went back to the Fergie version.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Jose and Cole play, Yes, lost this one. Michael McDonald
and the Winings.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
It has no color, Steven Tyler and Eminem I don't
know if that's when he did. You don't remember them?
Have to show you the video?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Okay, Well, still the number one is Aerosmith and run
DMC and it has to be kind of kind of
has to be the best one, Yeah, of all time,
Benjamin Olbrian Broncos Country tonight.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
But over the top of the hour, it.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Would be the most awkward collaboration, awkward collaboration, one that
wouldn't work Ryan Edwards and Benjamin over well.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Like Yanni and like I don't know corn Will Smith
at em and m Yeah, yeah, that would be here.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Will Smith doesn't have to cuss in his wraps to
sell records. He doesn't have to, but I do so.
And so it's a rare moment.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I don't have to actually ask you what's coming up
on your show tonight. Yeah, it's a rare moment.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
We actually, no, we're gonna do the uh, We're gonna
replay the We're gonna replay the fourth quarter. It's gonna
be a replay of the fourth quarter that historic comeback
in It's New York Giants.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I can't wait. You guys get to have some commentary
on it, right, Yeah, we'll open the segment.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
They will open the segments with Nick and I give
him some commentary, catching the listeners up and all that.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Then they'll get to listen to dam and Rick on
the call. Very cool. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Uh, it's a lot of fun the way it ultimately
worked out. I I still it took me a couple
of days Nate afterwards, to really wrap my head around
it in a lot of ways, because there's so many
reasons why it shouldn't have worked.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Out the way it did.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
If you go back and rewatched it yet like three times, Yeah,
the first three quarters are so much worse than I remember,
and the fourth quarter is so much even better than
like it's it's it's incredible how much better it is.
Maybe you would think just you know, the payoff, right,
that's why we love this game.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, you know, because that because those magic moments can
happen if you believe in it, you know, and a
group of guys believing or a group of people believing
in the same thing at the same time, moving in
the same direction, you can change that tide. Everyone's gonna
remember that for the rest of their lives. Yeah, really
remarkable