10-27-25 Doc Dave Schneider with KOA Sports

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bring on, doctor Dave Schneider, brought to by Ortho Colorado
Hospital part of Common Spirit Health. Go to Orthoclorado dot org.
All right, doctor Schnyder. So, he left earlier for a
leg issue, but then he came back in. He played
until right before half when on an awkward tackle with
George Pickens, it seemed like he got some kind of
shoulder injury. That's at least how they're describing it.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
What did you see? It concerned me a little bit, Ryan,
and we all saw when they did the replay, kind
of odd tackle. He got spun around a little bit.
The concern is when a player grasped the front of
his chest like that, any sports medicine surgeon starts wondering, Uh, oh,
I hope that's not a partial peck terror pector alis

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major terror, because that's a great way of doing it.
When you're loading and twisting and trying to throw someone down.
He can tweak your peck that way. And so I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay, But just a follow up on that, So does
that mean? So what are the grades of that? Because
I mean, we know that the super scary one that
knocks you out for the season, is there one in
between there that and what would that look like and
how long would he be out?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
There are different grades, and of course a much more
common injury would be just like a strain to the
shoulder or maybe the shoulder joint itself came out of
joint a little bit and that that can hurt. So
this is me hopefully I'm making too much of this,
but your peck, you can injure your packing. Every year
in the league, there's you know, eight to ten pecdralis
major tears. It tends to be in and the guys

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in the lines, in the trenches or a linebacker. But
when a player like PS two suffers it, it's usually
more of a partial thickness kind of injury, and that
means you're out for a few weeks and then you're back.
So there's no doubt that he's probably already had his MRI.
It was either last night or this morning. And I'm

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hoping that I'm making too much of it, but I'm
a little concerned.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, yesterday we saw a bevy of injuries, and none
more than Cam'scatabu, who was really exciting for the fan
base in New York, and he seemed to have dislocated
his ankle. What would that surgery or that rehab be
like for him as you try to recover.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Nick. You know, normally when we see that replay and
you see someone's leg coming off to the side, it
can be just a pure ankle dislocation, but that's actually
really rare. But usually as up happening is you break
a couple of bones that come around at the ankle joint,
both on the inside, the medial side of the ankle
and the outside. On the outside is that little skinny

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fibula bone and when you roll your angle you can
see that part of the angle swell up higher. When
you get a fractured dislocation like Scataboo had, almost certainly
you break the fibula, that skinny bone on the outside,
You break that up high, you know, like six to
ten inches above the ankle, and then the whole thing

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and can dislocate, which is why on the field you
can actually snap that back into joint and make their
guys like straight like they did for him and put
that air cast on. Now, sometimes when that happens, a
little bone hooks through it makes it an open fracture.
That's why you have surgery within hours. Then he would
have had surgery in Philadelphia last night. The nice thing

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as gruesome as a crooked leg looks, because it's exactly
what Dak Prescott had, It's exactly what Chris Godwin had
with the Bucks earlier this season. The surgery is pretty
easy and it's usually not as much damage to the
joint itself. So I think Kim he'll miss the whole
rest of the season, He'll be great for next year.

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Giants fans should take heart.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Doug.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I have to ask you this question because our football
family lost someones over the past weekend, Jets, Nick Mango,
and he was dealing with a rare genetic kidney disorder.
And I don't know how if you can add any
more information to that, but I know, even saying of
his family, there was no one in his family was
old blood type, and I just found that to be rare.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, Nick, I'm so glad you're bringing this up. You know,
Nick apparently had a type of genetic kidney disorder that
predisposed him to early kidney failure, which is why he
was on dialysis. It's not so much the blood type,
it's the actual tissue type, the genetic type that they
search for when they're doing a live organ donor for

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people who need, say a liver transplant, a kidney transplant.
You have to be an exact genetic match. So it's
not so much blood type. Because I saw the same
thing you did Nick in the paper about being certain
blood DoPT. That's not the issue. It's the more precise
genetic typing. But it's worth talking about because there can
be no doubt. There's some people listening right now that

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have early kidney failure and they haven't thought it through.
So maybe they're just feeling lethargic, or the look of
their pee, their urine is different, or they're getting swelling
at their hands and feet. You should not ignore that.
And if you're listening right now and you're thinking, man,
my hands and feet are swelling more. I just kind

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of feel out of it or tired, or I feel
like I'm having to take a nap, pay attention to that.
See your doctor take a simple blood test, and the
simple urine test can catch it before it turns into
something serious. And prayers out to Nick Mangle and his family.
He was only in his early forties, way too young

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to pass away.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Perfectly, said doc thank you so much for the advice
and always appreciate you popping on with us.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Thank you, all right, Thank you guys, all right.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Doctor David Schaider from Ortho Colorado Rods is by Ortho
Colorado Hospital, part of Common Spirit Health. Go to Orthocolorado
dot org.