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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the show. Victory Monday. N my victory flannel.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Very excited about that, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Stick Ferguson, Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Nick, I'm sorry what you said. Victory flannel.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
What's the difference between victory flannel in every day flannel?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Because it all looks the same to me, Dave.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Good to see you as well.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No, no, no, no, don't go to Dave. Answer my question.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's the same.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You said, victory flannel. That's the difference.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's all victory flannel. It's all winning. You're wearing flannels.
Is winning?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Do you have like gold inside the flannel? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh wow, yeah, you'll never see it. You'll ever see
it though, because that's inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Dave, What what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You guys?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Good to see you too, Man, Good to see you too.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
What all win? Mackrel?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Holy mackerel? Didn't get a Holy mackerel yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
It wasn't a holy mackerel kind of game, was it.
I mean it not ready for it? Oh yeah, I
mean it was. Listen, it's been.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I just thought they so thoroughly dominated the game that
it's one of those games where you just have a
lot of fun. You get a lot of guys touches, right,
you get young guys. And I said after the game,
and then earlier today, I said, you know, that game
to me was just sort of a look into the
near future for Broncos fans in terms of.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What this thing might look like.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Let's just say, and I mean, this year is going
to be exciting no matter what. But next year and
the year after, you've got just think of what who
did what yesterday?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Right?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You got Pat Bryant's first touchdown catch as a rookie.
I think he's going to be better in his second
year and third year.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
You got Troy Franklin had two touchdown catches in his
second year. Do you think he'll be better as a
wide receiver in heear's three and four? I think so,
Bo Nicks in his second season, you know, four touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You think he'll be better in his third in four seasons,
I think so.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
R J.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Harvey uh in his rookie season, three touchdowns. You think
he'll be better and figure out the game and the
speed and all that. In his second year. And then
he had the old heads like JK. Dobbins and Courtland
Sutton and Evan Ingram who's starting to kind of figure
it out and they're figuring him out. I just thought
from an offensive standpoint, it it gave Broncos fans a
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glimpse into what this thing has the potential look like.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh, potential.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Usually that's the word that you avoid and the coaching ranks, because,
as it was told to me, sometimes potential gets you fired.
But in this case, but in this case, to Dave's point,
you've been smiff and glue.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The sentient one, the cented glue.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I'm just saying about seventy five percent high.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But it is it is Victim's good energy. No, I know,
it's as victory mind.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I know. So if I happened to be sniffing glue, right,
if I just happened to be sniffing glue.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's an organic one. Yeah too high. Yes, it's organic.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I just look very dead you sniff and glue.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
No, it just popped into my head. I like his energy. Yeah,
And I was just going to say, I'm not going
to do glue.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
But if you had one of those like, hey, you
know what, this is one of these little all natural
things here.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
If you just shake this up and drinking. I'm drinking it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's all naturally, I'm drinking it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah. Yeah, you can't use an aerosol can too as well.
No that's not all natural. That is I mean it
says natural and no does that doesn't Oh yeah, okay,
I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You should read before you sniff this.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know what, thank you?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think even on glue, it says.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Because it's glue, it says don't eat it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is that what it says?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Oh yeah, he does say that if you read the bottle.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, I've never considered eating glues, so I never read
the bottle to make sure. It ever struck me as
something like, you know, I'm really hungry. Let's go over
to the craft table.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It looks like as if you totally honest, now it does.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
She is like lovely glo is not glue like Elmers.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, that's not not Elmers. The Elmers is like spine.
It's like drinking fine cognak because that's smooth, right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
David, Elmer's like drinking koyak.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, listen, we all got I'm damn sorry. I brought this,
tell you true.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You know, out of the way the players that you
were talking about all glue players, players are going to
need moving forward.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What are performance from the rookie class? You know that
it's interesting. We've talked about this a couple of times, Dave.
Over the last few weeks, there's starting to be some
some grousing from fans about, wait, when are we going
to see more from Johnny Baron? When are we going
to see more from R. J. Harvey's the second round pick,
pat Ryan, et cetera. And then in one in one
game you saw all of it. It was it was fantastic, no.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Great win, and you get to celebrate that, as Nick knows,
probably twenty four hours, maybe maybe a little bit longer
as a player. And now you got to you're gonna
be without pats er Tan, which is no good. But
you got to find a way to win a game
that I think will be when you look back after
this year, whatever this year turns out to be, I
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would not be surprised if the Houston game turns out
to be a game that Broncos fans point to, either
in a positive way or retrospectively in a negative way
and say man. They either say man, what a great win.
They were seven to two and got that win there,
and look, that win really helped them get to wherever
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they go or Man, they had a chance to win
that game, and that really was when things start.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's it's a toss up game. In my mind. I
think Denver is a better team.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Houston will be hard to beat in Houston because of
that defense.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, it reminds me of a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Remember that was the pivotal game right there, pivotal game
in Houston with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
They are in the red zone in a touchdown, but
I believe wins it. That's right, and Lucas Croll. That's right,
that's right, Lucas crowd and Lucas Croll just.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Turn around, just just turn around. That will be there.
I'm not sure he's the one to blame on one.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I mean, bro, when we say blame, I mean everyone
is essentially kind of included in that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Give me the glue, No, give me the glue.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, So you mentioned pascertain.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I know a lot of Broncos fans are on pins
and needles about what's going on with Pat and we
have not heard anything officially from anybody. Sean Payton spoke
this morning with the media did not offer any information
on that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No insider has tweeted anything.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I keep talking to myself into that that's hopefully good news,
but it's probably not.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I don't know, man, he didn't play the second half.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I did think, and this is one of the things
you can talk about the secondary.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
There's a reason why you draft guys in the first round.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There's a reason why you continue to build depth over
years just for this circumstance.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I know Nobod's gonna replace Pat, but.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
No, I think it will be interesting to see who's
the next man up. Is it Chris Abrams Drain, Is
it Jatte Baron? Do they bump him from the nickel
he's played primarily inside, but we were told certainly at
Texas he played both. I think that's I think that's
going to be obviously a key, key decision. And do
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you feel comfortable enough with who you have in the
locker room, maybe the practice squad? I mean, do you
feel comfortable that you have enough and I'm air quoting here,
dudes that you can line up and feel okay even
losing the best corner in the game.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think when you look at Chris Abrams Drain, who
got some time.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And you know, you look at Johny Barron who got
the interception, which is which is great for him. It
only builds confidence in the coaches that listen, we're not
going to be what we were with PS.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Two. We're not, but we have the ability to compete.
And when you if you ask.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Me, okay, well, which one of those guys will probably
going first? You probably look towards Chris abrams dream because
he is more of the experience of the two. I agree,
but I think he would be on a short leash
because soon as he gets starts to give up a
couple of passes, or he's targeted too much, they're gonna
flip it and here comes Johnny Barron. But this is
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a great situation to be in. You would rather The
reason I say that, I mean, obviously you don't. You
don't want, you know, anyone to get injured. But knowing
as though you have adequate depth that you can actually
go to most teams can't say they have four to
five guys that they can tell us out there.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I think to next point, he's right in terms of
the depth, and I think you a lot of times
when your depth doesn't get called upon you love your
depth now, then there are other times when your depth
gets thrust into the fire, so to speak, and it's like, oh, okay,
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I think that. I think the question that will be
answered on Sunday, and I think it's maybe the most
important question of this game. Two questions, How does Sean
Payton and the Broncos offense deal with? What is a
really good front and an edge pass rusher in Houston
that the Texans think is the same thing as Nick
Bonato here in Denver, in Will Anderson number one? Number two?
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What is Vance Joseph as he's coming up with this
game plan and now you're missing the best corner in football?
So how does that alter your sort of vision for
how this season has gone and how you dial things
up and where you know, we used to call it
from an offensive standpoint, who's the stressor? So in this formation,
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what they like to do is this, and when they
do that, there's a stressor from an offensive standpoint that
we know, Okay, that corner over there has no help.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
He's got no flat help. He's basically even.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Though he's playing three, he's got inside shade and he's
playing one. And so you come up with ways to
go at him. So how does Vance Joseph without Pats
or ten come up with the game plan and how
altered will it be with whomever is going to replace
number two?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Or you can't alter it too much. But here's what
you can say. I mean, you have John de Cooper
and Nick Benito. Those are your best equalized when you
think about C. J. Stroud, even though I think you
only been sacked, he was only sacked or he wasn't even.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Sacked at all last game.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
So the idea is that using those two guys to
create pressure and then looking at Robbie Moss who's been
challenged and targeted this season, and now all of that
is going to be effected because now Riley becomes your
number one corner. He now has to play a much
larger role. Now he has to give you eighty or
sixty five percent of what PST two gave you on
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every particular defensive play. And then you're gonna start to
lean coverage to those other guys until something tells you otherwise.
So I'm expecting Cover two you're probably gonna run a
little bit of quarters to help those guys out. So
to help them out in the back end as far
as passes. And here's the other thing with the Texans.
I mean some of their top receivers are injured as well.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Nicole Collins is the best one they have.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
He didn't play against San Francisco, but I understand, I
don't know for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I understand he's due back. He is Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, So if anything, you have to figure Demiko rans
is gonna move Nico Collins around. And then do you
have to decide if you advanced Joseph will Riley travel
with him or would you just play opposite and just play.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Whomever's on your side.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But now you're gonna rely on your safeties, both Brandon
Jones and Hufunkham. Now I need you guys to be
fat is in a run game, factors in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So we can't let our eyes tell.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Us, oh, this jump, this dig route a fifteen yard
D route, and then now we take a shot over
the back because we have young guys playing, we can't
do that.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
What you I think vance or one of his biggest
challenges will be coming up with. However, the defense is
going to look a little bit different. What you cannot
afford to do is because of who's playing at corner.
You know, you want to say, okay, let's back him
off a little bit in some coverages. But part of
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the beauty of having a guy like Sortan and a
really good back end of the defense is they positively
affect your pass rush because of their coverage, and then
it works in the opposite as well. Now, all of
a sudden, without Certan, the coverage will look differently, and
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the key will be are are the Texans able to
exploit whomever replaces Certan and do so in a way
that negatively affects the broncos best trait on defense, which
is their ability to pressure the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So it's all it's all tied in together.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
That's you know again, I always say that's why these
guys make millions of dollars. They're sitting out there right now,
probably looking at this saying, okay, if we do this,
what about this and this? And that's the beauty. To me,
Football is like a game of chess. You come up
with a plan and then all of a sudden, wait
a minute, you've got to you've got to change how
you think. All right, let's get to this, and the
guys that can do it quickly and on the fly.
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A lot of times are the best coaches in the world.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, here's something advance can do to kind of help
the guys in the back end, just kind of buy
time as he's trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Stroud is a right handed quarterback, and usually when you
bring pressure, you want to bring pressure from this from
that particular side to force him to go to his
offhand because he's not used to throwing in that particular
that on angle. That's the way that you can start
the game off trying to offset it.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
And Dick Leabou made it famous.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And I don't think Dick Leabou came up with it,
but in my time playing against the Pittsburgh still was
that fire zone, right, bringing pressure from one side and
then dropping on on the other. And I'm not saying
you're using that to kind of confuse CJ. Shrup because
he's a veteran guy, he's seen a lot, but you
have to do something to kind of give your guys
an opportunity one to get there from a pressure standpoint,
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but also play coverage in the back end.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
YEP, absolutely right, and it is used to confuse quarterbacks
and and maybe that's maybe that would be part of
the game plan. I mean Vance has used some of
that this year, but he's not been big at that.
He's been at times big on pressuring. Right the last
drive of the Jets game in London, I mean you
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had Hufunga who hadn't who hadn't pressured. I don't think
the entire game it was like back to back to
back pressures for tell Aoa. So it was like, we
got we gotta do something because if they getting field
goal range, we're gonna lose this game. So he he's
got that ability to do so. I just think that's
the man. That's the sixty four thousand dollars question this
week in terms of Advance Joseph and how you come
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up with a game plan that puts your guys in
the best position to win, knowing that the best corner
in the LA in the league is not planned and to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
The point that you guys are making And I agree
with you with the equalizer here because he's taken fifteen
sacks on the season and we saw the Seattle game
a couple of weeks ago where they were lighting him
up out there. Now he's going to be home, so
there's a little bit of advantage there that was at Seattle.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But the point of it is is you can get
to c. J.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Stroud. That offensive line, especially those tackles have kind of
really struggled, have really struggled. So that is probably a
bit of the equalizer. Plus after coming off this game,
when you're thinking about what the Broncos secondary has seen,
where you have Chase and Higgins, AJ Brown, Devonte Smith
and again, I know you had PS two, but you
had an entire half of Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens
and for the entirety of the game, they combined for
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one hundred and fifty two yards the two of those guys,
and the most explosive play was the twenty nine yarder
on the first drive after the interception.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was the most explosive.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
What you say is the biggest reason that that stat
you just read, Why would you say if you could
only pick one reason, why would that be pressure? That's
exactly right. Dak never and Dak was seeing ghosts at times.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Right.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
They pressured him from distance, which the Broncos had not
done a lot of in previous weeks, and he was
uncomfortable in the pocket. I mean he's got even the
stop route right in front of the Cowboy bench to
the return guy. Ohbert, No, No, it wasn't Tolbert. It
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was anyway. I mean Moss is on him and and Dak.
I mean he's got time. He delivers that ball outside
and low, which is the only place you can't put
it on a back shoulder stop route. And Dak Prescott's
one of the most accurate throwers. So I credit the
Broncos rush for effect. Seen the quarterback play yesterday a
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ton against Dak Prescotte.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
The factor into what youre talking about is the fact
that Jake Ferguson, who statistically coming.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Into this game has been one of the better tight
ends in the league. He's top five receiver in terms
of catches. Like he was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I mean they just took a like a racer, just
erasing him off of the personnel tart because he was
a non factor in the game. And to be able
to do that, pressure plays a big role into it.
And having your guys in the back end, even on
the second level, understand the game plan.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Here's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Because there were some games and I'll go back to
the Colts game where the Broncos from a man in
his own standpoint, they didn't seem like they were found.
They would sound fundamentally, But in this game against a
very talented Dallas team, is probably the most fundamental football
that I've seen on I had the side of the
ball all season long.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
This was as a complete of games as you could
have possibly imagined. Now, there's an interesting sort of statistical
reference when it comes to Dak Prescott in his struggles
against the Broncos. He was zero and two coming into
this game, at a fifty five percent completion rate, four touchdowns,
three picks, have been sacked I think four or five
times in the two games that he played, and again
that was twenty seventeen and I think twenty twenty one, so.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But for some reason, he just does not play well
against the Broncos, and that continued into this game. And
then to Dave's point, it did feel like he was
seeing ghosts out there. It feel as though he was
having a hard time settling into the game plan.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And give the defense a lot of credit for that.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's amazing what pressure can do.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But then the offense as well. The offense had an
again credit where it's due. The Cowboys defense is struggling,
they're banged up.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Those are all ul true statements.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Simultaneously, the offense had to continue to put pressure on
that and I think them giving that the Broncos defense
the lead, the significant lead, obviously really helped the Broncos
defense be able to have success too.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
All.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Right, So we're off rollly here on a victory Monday,
very excited to be here with you, Dave Logan, Ryan Ords,
Nick Ferguson. We are giving away all week long Broncos
Raiders tickets, so we're going to give you opportunities to
win that every single day.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
This week night game.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yes, that's right, next week, Thursday night game. So that's
what we kind of have to do it this week.
But we'll tell you more about that coming up in
just a little bit. But when we come back, Ian
Rappaport is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's next.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Toss is left side. This is Harvey Harvey with a
big run.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Our Jette Harvey is loose twenty fifteen ten five touchdown.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The rookie RJ.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Harvey a house call, a forty yard house call and
the Broncos bouncing front with eight thirteen left in the
first quarter six to three.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Now, I know we sometimes don't always say the nicest
things about Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Get that out of the way.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
By the way, Ian Rapport looks like it's gonna be
an hour from now, we had Carson Wentz going to
IR News that just broke a little bit ago, so
that that's going to lay him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He's going to join us around four thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
My guy, Trevor Snikama with Pro Football Focus to read
this out said that play was the highest graded play
of the season for Pro Football Focus, like basically everybody
doing their job, everybody executing for whatever this means. But
he said minors specifically, who is ridiculous If you go
back and watch that, he said, earn the first plus
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one and a half on a scale of minus two
to plus two on a run black of the season.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So well, what that means.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He climbed to the second level and the linebacker was
in big, big trouble, right because you're trying to the
linebacker sees the action, he knows it's going to his right.
He's trying to get across the face of Quinn Minors,
and when he sort of walks across the intersection, so
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to speak, he gets run over by a dump truck.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I mean, he just gets like.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
It shows you the strength of these offensive linemen, in
particular Quinn Minors, because he just with two hands just
sends the linebacker airborne. Then some poor safety that is
built like Nick comes flying up and here comes seventy
seven who's built a little differently than Nick. And I
think the safety like said uh no and tapped out
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and he went down. He went down to the ground.
I know you wouldn't have, but he did.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Sure wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And then he then, after making sure of the demise
of the turtled safety, he turned back around and got
even a little piece of somebody else running.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You know that. That was one of those plays. I
was sitting next to some of the scouts and I
just looked like, did you actually see that? Because usually,
you know this day, as a player, you have one
job to do, and most of the time when you're
grading players, they do their job.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But now you're asking players, can you go beyond that?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, And to watch Quinn Minors get his guy and.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They say you know what, I'm not done. Let me
find someone else.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
And I was so excited as a guy who studied
the run game and love just kind of running into
you know, running backs, to say, if everyone on the
offensive line took on the same personality of a Quem Minors,
could you imagine the feats that this Broncos run game
could accomplish if.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Everyone is I'm gonna get my guy and I'm going
next level.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
But I would also add this in the NFL man
that that looked a little bit like a high school
play in this regard, I mean it was. I believe
it was just a toss. It was a Pinna pool
Number one. NFL teams don't run that too many times.
They just don't. When's the last time you saw on
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a toss that a defender did not get a hand
on the running back from forty yards out? I mean,
Archie Harvey did not have a Dallas Cowboy. If we
were playing flag football and you could toss it in
flag football or the running back.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Nobody grabbed his flag the whole time until he got
to the end zone. Very true.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So for me, I don't know how you guys see it,
And I know we're talking about Quinn minors. But that
play started with one player in my particular mind, and
that was Pat Bryant. Because Pat could have easy laid.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Off the linebacker. But what he did was he had
great hand placement.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
He put his left hand on his hip and rolled
him right past.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He could have said, you know, once again, I shilled it.
I did my job. But no, he say, no, I
need to finish. And the first thing I thought was
no block, no rock, no block, no rock, right, because
great job, Grant.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
He did a heck of a job because he got
the first block that actually sprung RJ.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Harvey.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And like Dave said, man, it was just an alley.
No one was in his alley, and it wasn't a
dark alley because it was it was paid with gold,
go straight to the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Remarkable.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Do you see Officiel Schwartz after that play tweeting out,
He said, am I nuts, am I seeing a little
Barry Sanders in the way that r. J. Harvey runs,
the stature, the change of direction, the way his toe
almost does that little kick at the end when he's
striding it out, not doing a direct comp at all,
So don't take it as much.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But aesthetically, it's what I see.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I hadn't.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I didn't see that tweeked and I hadn't. I hadn't
really thought about that, But.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I mean, you watch it like I didn't think about
it either, And again.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
He said his running style, Yeah, Harvey's running style is
similar to Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
The change of direction and so rewatching it. With that
in mind, I see kind of where he's coming from. Again,
that's your comping to one of the greatest of all
time and probably my favorite running back of all time.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But there was that sort of shift that he had.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And again he wasn't touched right, there was no arm
laid on him.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But he also contributed to that.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like in the cut that he made, he sort of
took a little bit of a dip out to the outside,
just just enough where they didn't have a chance to
even get close to him.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, I mean he listened.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
He was an explosive player at at Central Florida, right,
so he's I mean, he's a guy started a quarterback,
started his career at quarterback in college, and now he's
a running back. And I think I think the Broncos
are trying to get him, you know, up up the
speed a little bit on offense, and what a great
sort of change of pace back he can turn into.
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With respect to JK. Dobbins, I will I will say
this about R. J.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Harvey.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I'm not crazy about him back there on kickoffs. Now,
nobody out there has asked me, and they might say,
you know what, that's fine, have a sip of shut
the hell up, and that's fine. But I'm just saying
I'm watching you, and I'm like, hmm, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You might see more of him if Marvin Mims is
going to miss this game.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah right, yeah, with the concussion, is what I'll say
about RG Harvey. He coming out of she reminded me
of Ray Rice, who used to play for Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They kind of built the same.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
But if you're looking at that particular play and say, well,
what guy would I compare him to, it wouldn't be embarrassanders.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It would either be Ray Rice or Frank Gore.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Right, They looked kind of the same because once they
get on the edge, they're going vertical. There's no hesitation
that they're looking. They're not looking for contact, they're looking
for daylight and then running off the backside. I don't
know who was the right What was that was that
Powlchowski the left guard, and he set it up perfect.
It's almost like a pump retire because you trail behind
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that player, then you run off his backside and that's
where it was.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Off the backside to the left, straight to the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He's been I think there's been some really nice things
in the passing game. You were talking about it earlier
about trying to get him going in the run game,
and I know for some Broncos fans because it was
talked about during training campus, like, Okay, the outside stuff's great,
and obviously he can be very explosive in that, but
you want to know that he can also run between
the tackles because you don't want to tip your hand
every time he's in the game. And it did seem
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like we're still trying to get him outside a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I think he showed that he's gonna have that kind
of ability. When you think back to the Cincinnati game.
I thought the Cincinnati game for r. J. Harvey was
a game he settled in and reminded me a little
bit in terms of his patience that that maybe Dobbins
had rubbed off on him a little bit. Dobbins is
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a is a professional back, right, He's he's going to
set blockers up, even in a confined space. Is both
feet are usually on the ground, and he's patiently waiting
to see.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
He's just really, really good at that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And I thought Harvey in the Cincinnati game, and it
was probably the first time I'd seen it, at least
with my own eyes, I thought he developed.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
A little bit of that ability.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
That's that jump cut manly Danian Thomson had a mean
jump cut and stiff.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
On oh man, that's another favorite.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
You just don't want to be on the highlight.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'd say, in no particular order, Barry Sanders, Ladanians up there.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I always loved Arian Foster's a.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Really good player with and O. J. Simpson for you
didn't you weren't you a big OJ guy?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean he's like Hurts rings card well, definitely, I
mean hurt commercials were phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Though he had is yes he did, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
But yeah the glove, but no, I mean listen, as
a running back, how could you not be a fan
of what he did his running back.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He went for over two thousand and he did it
in fourteen games, just saying, just from strictly a football standpoint,
that's an amazing feat mix.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
A deep drop, looks left, throws a ball, He's got
Pat Bryant in the corner of the x ol.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Brian makes the catch, touchdown Denver twenty four yards and
Pat Bryant's first NFL touchdown reception was a beauty for me.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I was happy inside seeing a young man do that.
But also the touchdown passed over the shower. You know
how well Ben doesn't know because Ben always gets on
receivers who drop over the show the plane.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I'm like, you know how difficult that is to make
that type of catch on the run.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And full speed.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's right, Gosh started right, that's why. And I'm not
saying that adding a wide receiver. Like over the weekend,
we saw a report from Diana Rascini saying that the
Jacksonville Jaguars are listening to calls or fielding calls on
Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm a huge fantasy. No, no, it got me.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I'm sorry, what intrigued.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like, first of all, Jacksonville, you're idiots, But that's okay,
it's all Brandon. But if they are, that's that's an
intriguing player. Up to this point, there hasn't really been
an intriguing receiver for me to come off of my
point of I'd rather see more from the guys that
you you haven't really involved in yet, because up to
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this point it's like, hey, Pat Bryan is still barely
being utilized. We're at times not utilizing Marvin Mims enough
or even Troy Franklin enough, right Like, I like this
receiving core potential is the word that a lot of
people can keep using, but it can be more than that,
and you certainly see some of that in this game
against Dallas.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So for me that that's why I kept.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Saying, I don't need to trade for a wide receiver
if we're going to talk about an interior offensive lineman
because your death is being tested there or a tight end.
I could get in or and bor some of those conversations,
but wide receiver didn't make a lot of sense to
me until us how that name and that name. I
was like, okay, well forget everything I just said. I
could be very into Brian Thomas Junior if that is
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indeed somebody that's available, So.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I could be talked into him, Yes, him specifically.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I mean everybody else comes with a bunch of
other baggage or or needing a contract. You know, there's
a lot of other stuff there, right, So it's a
crystal well, gosh, he's got the concussion history there and
he needs a new contract. If it was Jaylen Waddle
is already being paid a pretty decent amount of money.
Plus he's got some injury history stuff that I'm not
like too thrilled about. And you know, the other names
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out there didn't really you know, Allen Blizard, that doesn't
really move the needle for me, right, So there's not
there wasn't a lot of other wide receiver names. But
Brian Thomas that does move the needle for me. I mean,
associate with another two and a half three years of
contract with the contract on him.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But the whole idea is that every team should be
trying to get better, not to say that they are.
So if Jacksonville is tossing out that, yeah, you want
to listen, what what is it that that type of
young receiver is now going for in today's NFL?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Would that be so you know, well, is.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
That a second rounder or is that a second rounder
in the player and then you have that conversation. So
if we were to do that, Ryan, you know, and
this is just you and I acting as though we are,
you know, George Peyton and Sean Payton having a conversation. Sure,
if we were to do that, who would be that
added player we are willing to part ways with to
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acquire said receiver?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, that would be interesting to see what Jacksonville needed
at that point, right, For example, do they need secondary help?
Your secondary death is already being tested right now, but
it seems like that would be a position that they
would probably be looking for some help plus draft picks.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And this is why depth is so important, because it
makes your team better on either side of the ball,
but also supplies you with assets that can be moved
around like chess pieces to give to another team to
acquire better player.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
By the way, Ben Alright, your co host in Broncos
Country Tonight, at times not impressed all that much with
Pat Bryan's catch. He said, those receivers are paid to
make those over the shoulder catches. That's literally what they're
paid millions of dollars to do. That's me joining vampire.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Joy Vampires said perfectly by a person who's never been
in that position, not knowing how tough that is. I'm
just saying, man, so you have to one get off
the jam or beat the zone coverage. You have to
track the ball in there with a guy in phase
with you, and then Pat Bryan's case, you have to
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stay in bounds, right in bounds. Because both threw the
ball perfectly. He threw it, he wasn't throwing it to
Pat Brian. He threw it to the back Pola and
Pat just had to get there and it's over the
sholder Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I was impressed by it, but again, that's that's sort
of been. Ben had the same take last night on
winning against Dallas, was like, well, that defense is really bad,
so that's.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
What you should have done.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, technically, I'm in agree with him on that because
that defense wasn't that great.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
But you still had to do it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
But you still had to do it though, you still
had to get out there and do it.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But I always so been we can, you know, call
Peyton Manning and throw him over to show the catches
and see how many actually hauls in.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We might have to do that. You might have to
do that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, So I mentioned this earlier all week long, We're
to give you a chance to win a pair of
tickets to Broncos Raiders on November sixth.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Not now, just be listening for the Q to call.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Also, by the way, this week's daily ticket winners are
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reserve seating tickets and a red carpet walk premiere.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Red carpet I know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
How about that? You've ever done the red carpet?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I have?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, how is it?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's pretty awesome. Yeah, I've never done the walk. I've
covered red carpets as a media member. But it's different.
As you know, you're just like talking to people as
they're walking by the red carpet walk where you stand
and you pose.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And you.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Oh yeah you do stand in poe yeah a little
bit right. You asked the questions, yes, many times? Have
you done that? Three times? Nice? I did it?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
In Vegas during the Super Bowl, and I did it
twice and when I lived in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Very nice.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
It moves like movie premiers.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yes, what yeah, which which movie do you remember?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You man?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Mome on now, oh we got a break coming up.
No we don't.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
What do we don't?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But what.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Movies? What movies?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't recall it.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Oh, come on, you definitely recall. I see you smiling.
What what movies?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
What is it with me smiling?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Just one? Just give me one movie that you were
as the premiere for.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
A movie. That's not you said a movie. Give you
a movie and the name of the movie or gods,
let me think about it. It comes to me.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
It was like super Bad or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Was it? It was like, no, se now you press
me on, say I've been so long ago. Give me
a moment and you'll come to me. Yeah, give me
a moment.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
We'll see if we can get to that, and we
come back.
Welcome to the show. Victory Monday. N my victory flannel.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Very excited about that, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Stick Ferguson, Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Nick, I'm sorry what you said. Victory flannel.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
What's the difference between victory flannel in every day flannel?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Because it all looks the same to me, Dave.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Good to see you as well.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No, no, no, no, don't go to Dave. Answer my question.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's the same.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You said, victory flannel. That's the difference.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's all victory flannel. It's all winning. You're wearing flannels.
Is winning?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Do you have like gold inside the flannel? Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh wow, yeah, you'll never see it. You'll ever see
it though, because that's inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Dave, What what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You guys?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Good to see you too, Man, Good to see you too.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
What all win? Mackrel?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Holy mackerel? Didn't get a Holy mackerel yesterday?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
It wasn't a holy mackerel kind of game, was it.
I mean it not ready for it? Oh yeah, I
mean it was. Listen, it's been.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
I just thought they so thoroughly dominated the game that
it's one of those games where you just have a
lot of fun. You get a lot of guys touches, right,
you get young guys. And I said after the game,
and then earlier today, I said, you know, that game
to me was just sort of a look into the
near future for Broncos fans in terms of.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
What this thing might look like.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Let's just say, and I mean, this year is going
to be exciting no matter what. But next year and
the year after, you've got just think of what who
did what yesterday?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Right?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You got Pat Bryant's first touchdown catch as a rookie.
I think he's going to be better in his second
year and third year.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
You got Troy Franklin had two touchdown catches in his
second year. Do you think he'll be better as a
wide receiver in heear's three and four? I think so,
Bo Nicks in his second season, you know, four touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You think he'll be better in his third in four seasons,
I think so.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
R J.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Harvey uh in his rookie season, three touchdowns. You think
he'll be better and figure out the game and the
speed and all that. In his second year. And then
he had the old heads like JK. Dobbins and Courtland
Sutton and Evan Ingram who's starting to kind of figure
it out and they're figuring him out. I just thought
from an offensive standpoint, it it gave Broncos fans a
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glimpse into what this thing has the potential look like.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh, potential.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Usually that's the word that you avoid and the coaching ranks, because,
as it was told to me, sometimes potential gets you fired.
But in this case, but in this case, to Dave's point,
you've been smiff and glue.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The sentient one, the cented glue.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I'm just saying about seventy five percent high.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But it is it is Victim's good energy. No, I know,
it's as victory mind.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I know. So if I happened to be sniffing glue, right,
if I just happened to be sniffing glue.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's an organic one. Yeah too high. Yes, it's organic.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I just look very dead you sniff and glue.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
No, it just popped into my head. I like his energy. Yeah,
And I was just going to say, I'm not going
to do glue.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
But if you had one of those like, hey, you
know what, this is one of these little all natural
things here.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
If you just shake this up and drinking. I'm drinking it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's all naturally, I'm drinking it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah. Yeah, you can't use an aerosol can too as well.
No that's not all natural. That is I mean it
says natural and no does that doesn't Oh yeah, okay,
I don't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You should read before you sniff this.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know what, thank you?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I think even on glue, it says.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Because it's glue, it says don't eat it.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is that what it says?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Oh yeah, he does say that if you read the bottle.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, I've never considered eating glues, so I never read
the bottle to make sure. It ever struck me as
something like, you know, I'm really hungry. Let's go over
to the craft table.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It looks like as if you totally honest, now it does.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
She is like lovely glo is not glue like Elmers.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, that's not not Elmers. The Elmers is like spine.
It's like drinking fine cognak because that's smooth, right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
David, Elmer's like drinking koyak.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
No, listen, we all got I'm damn sorry. I brought this,
tell you true.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You know, out of the way the players that you
were talking about all glue players, players are going to
need moving forward.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
What are performance from the rookie class? You know that
it's interesting. We've talked about this a couple of times, Dave.
Over the last few weeks, there's starting to be some
some grousing from fans about, wait, when are we going
to see more from Johnny Baron? When are we going
to see more from R. J. Harvey's the second round pick,
pat Ryan, et cetera. And then in one in one
game you saw all of it. It was it was fantastic, no.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Great win, and you get to celebrate that, as Nick knows,
probably twenty four hours, maybe maybe a little bit longer
as a player. And now you got to you're gonna
be without pats er Tan, which is no good. But
you got to find a way to win a game
that I think will be when you look back after
this year, whatever this year turns out to be, I
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would not be surprised if the Houston game turns out
to be a game that Broncos fans point to, either
in a positive way or retrospectively in a negative way
and say man. They either say man, what a great win.
They were seven to two and got that win there,
and look, that win really helped them get to wherever
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they go or Man, they had a chance to win
that game, and that really was when things start.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's it's a toss up game. In my mind. I
think Denver is a better team.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Houston will be hard to beat in Houston because of
that defense.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Well, it reminds me of a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Remember that was the pivotal game right there, pivotal game
in Houston with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
They are in the red zone in a touchdown, but
I believe wins it. That's right, and Lucas Croll. That's right,
that's right, Lucas crowd and Lucas Croll just.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Turn around, just just turn around. That will be there.
I'm not sure he's the one to blame on one.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I mean, bro, when we say blame, I mean everyone
is essentially kind of included in that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Give me the glue, No, give me the glue.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, So you mentioned pascertain.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I know a lot of Broncos fans are on pins
and needles about what's going on with Pat and we
have not heard anything officially from anybody. Sean Payton spoke
this morning with the media did not offer any information
on that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
No insider has tweeted anything.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I keep talking to myself into that that's hopefully good news,
but it's probably not.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I don't know, man, he didn't play the second half.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I did think, and this is one of the things
you can talk about the secondary.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
There's a reason why you draft guys in the first round.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
There's a reason why you continue to build depth over
years just for this circumstance.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I know Nobod's gonna replace Pat, but.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
No, I think it will be interesting to see who's
the next man up. Is it Chris Abrams Drain, Is
it Jatte Baron? Do they bump him from the nickel
he's played primarily inside, but we were told certainly at
Texas he played both. I think that's I think that's
going to be obviously a key, key decision. And do
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you feel comfortable enough with who you have in the
locker room, maybe the practice squad? I mean, do you
feel comfortable that you have enough and I'm air quoting here,
dudes that you can line up and feel okay even
losing the best corner in the game.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think when you look at Chris Abrams Drain, who
got some time.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And you know, you look at Johny Barron who got
the interception, which is which is great for him. It
only builds confidence in the coaches that listen, we're not
going to be what we were with PS.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Two. We're not, but we have the ability to compete.
And when you if you ask.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Me, okay, well, which one of those guys will probably
going first? You probably look towards Chris abrams dream because
he is more of the experience of the two. I agree,
but I think he would be on a short leash
because soon as he gets starts to give up a
couple of passes, or he's targeted too much, they're gonna
flip it and here comes Johnny Barron. But this is
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a great situation to be in. You would rather The
reason I say that, I mean, obviously you don't. You
don't want, you know, anyone to get injured. But knowing
as though you have adequate depth that you can actually
go to most teams can't say they have four to
five guys that they can tell us out there.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I think to next point, he's right in terms of
the depth, and I think you a lot of times
when your depth doesn't get called upon you love your
depth now, then there are other times when your depth
gets thrust into the fire, so to speak, and it's like, oh, okay,
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I think that. I think the question that will be
answered on Sunday, and I think it's maybe the most
important question of this game. Two questions, How does Sean
Payton and the Broncos offense deal with? What is a
really good front and an edge pass rusher in Houston
that the Texans think is the same thing as Nick
Bonato here in Denver, in Will Anderson number one? Number two?
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What is Vance Joseph as he's coming up with this
game plan and now you're missing the best corner in football?
So how does that alter your sort of vision for
how this season has gone and how you dial things
up and where you know, we used to call it
from an offensive standpoint, who's the stressor? So in this formation,
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what they like to do is this, and when they
do that, there's a stressor from an offensive standpoint that
we know, Okay, that corner over there has no help.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
He's got no flat help. He's basically even.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Though he's playing three, he's got inside shade and he's
playing one. And so you come up with ways to
go at him. So how does Vance Joseph without Pats
or ten come up with the game plan and how
altered will it be with whomever is going to replace
number two?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Or you can't alter it too much. But here's what
you can say. I mean, you have John de Cooper
and Nick Benito. Those are your best equalized when you
think about C. J. Stroud, even though I think you
only been sacked, he was only sacked or he wasn't even.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Sacked at all last game.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
So the idea is that using those two guys to
create pressure and then looking at Robbie Moss who's been
challenged and targeted this season, and now all of that
is going to be effected because now Riley becomes your
number one corner. He now has to play a much
larger role. Now he has to give you eighty or
sixty five percent of what PST two gave you on
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every particular defensive play. And then you're gonna start to
lean coverage to those other guys until something tells you otherwise.
So I'm expecting Cover two you're probably gonna run a
little bit of quarters to help those guys out. So
to help them out in the back end as far
as passes. And here's the other thing with the Texans.
I mean some of their top receivers are injured as well.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Nicole Collins is the best one they have.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
He didn't play against San Francisco, but I understand, I
don't know for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I understand he's due back. He is Sunday.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, So if anything, you have to figure Demiko rans
is gonna move Nico Collins around. And then do you
have to decide if you advanced Joseph will Riley travel
with him or would you just play opposite and just play.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Whomever's on your side.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
But now you're gonna rely on your safeties, both Brandon
Jones and Hufunkham. Now I need you guys to be
fat is in a run game, factors in the passing game.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So we can't let our eyes tell.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Us, oh, this jump, this dig route a fifteen yard
D route, and then now we take a shot over
the back because we have young guys playing, we can't
do that.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
What you I think vance or one of his biggest
challenges will be coming up with. However, the defense is
going to look a little bit different. What you cannot
afford to do is because of who's playing at corner.
You know, you want to say, okay, let's back him
off a little bit in some coverages. But part of
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the beauty of having a guy like Sortan and a
really good back end of the defense is they positively
affect your pass rush because of their coverage, and then
it works in the opposite as well. Now, all of
a sudden, without Certan, the coverage will look differently, and
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the key will be are are the Texans able to
exploit whomever replaces Certan and do so in a way
that negatively affects the broncos best trait on defense, which
is their ability to pressure the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
So it's all it's all tied in together.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
That's you know again, I always say that's why these
guys make millions of dollars. They're sitting out there right now,
probably looking at this saying, okay, if we do this,
what about this and this? And that's the beauty. To me,
Football is like a game of chess. You come up
with a plan and then all of a sudden, wait
a minute, you've got to you've got to change how
you think. All right, let's get to this, and the
guys that can do it quickly and on the fly.
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A lot of times are the best coaches in the world.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, here's something advance can do to kind of help
the guys in the back end, just kind of buy
time as he's trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Stroud is a right handed quarterback, and usually when you
bring pressure, you want to bring pressure from this from
that particular side to force him to go to his
offhand because he's not used to throwing in that particular
that on angle. That's the way that you can start
the game off trying to offset it.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
And Dick Leabou made it famous.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And I don't think Dick Leabou came up with it,
but in my time playing against the Pittsburgh still was
that fire zone, right, bringing pressure from one side and
then dropping on on the other. And I'm not saying
you're using that to kind of confuse CJ. Shrup because
he's a veteran guy, he's seen a lot, but you
have to do something to kind of give your guys
an opportunity one to get there from a pressure standpoint,
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but also play coverage in the back end.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
YEP, absolutely right, and it is used to confuse quarterbacks
and and maybe that's maybe that would be part of
the game plan. I mean Vance has used some of
that this year, but he's not been big at that.
He's been at times big on pressuring. Right the last
drive of the Jets game in London, I mean you
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had Hufunga who hadn't who hadn't pressured. I don't think
the entire game it was like back to back to
back pressures for tell Aoa. So it was like, we
got we gotta do something because if they getting field
goal range, we're gonna lose this game. So he he's
got that ability to do so. I just think that's
the man. That's the sixty four thousand dollars question this
week in terms of Advance Joseph and how you come
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up with a game plan that puts your guys in
the best position to win, knowing that the best corner
in the LA in the league is not planned and to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
The point that you guys are making And I agree
with you with the equalizer here because he's taken fifteen
sacks on the season and we saw the Seattle game
a couple of weeks ago where they were lighting him
up out there. Now he's going to be home, so
there's a little bit of advantage there that was at Seattle.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But the point of it is is you can get
to c. J.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Stroud. That offensive line, especially those tackles have kind of
really struggled, have really struggled. So that is probably a
bit of the equalizer. Plus after coming off this game,
when you're thinking about what the Broncos secondary has seen,
where you have Chase and Higgins, AJ Brown, Devonte Smith
and again, I know you had PS two, but you
had an entire half of Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens
and for the entirety of the game, they combined for
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one hundred and fifty two yards the two of those guys,
and the most explosive play was the twenty nine yarder
on the first drive after the interception.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was the most explosive.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
What you say is the biggest reason that that stat
you just read, Why would you say if you could
only pick one reason, why would that be pressure? That's
exactly right. Dak never and Dak was seeing ghosts at times.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Right.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
They pressured him from distance, which the Broncos had not
done a lot of in previous weeks, and he was
uncomfortable in the pocket. I mean he's got even the
stop route right in front of the Cowboy bench to
the return guy. Ohbert, No, No, it wasn't Tolbert. It
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was anyway. I mean Moss is on him and and Dak.
I mean he's got time. He delivers that ball outside
and low, which is the only place you can't put
it on a back shoulder stop route. And Dak Prescott's
one of the most accurate throwers. So I credit the
Broncos rush for effect. Seen the quarterback play yesterday a
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ton against Dak Prescotte.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
And here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
The factor into what youre talking about is the fact
that Jake Ferguson, who statistically coming.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Into this game has been one of the better tight
ends in the league. He's top five receiver in terms
of catches. Like he was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I mean they just took a like a racer, just
erasing him off of the personnel tart because he was
a non factor in the game. And to be able
to do that, pressure plays a big role into it.
And having your guys in the back end, even on
the second level, understand the game plan.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Here's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Because there were some games and I'll go back to
the Colts game where the Broncos from a man in
his own standpoint, they didn't seem like they were found.
They would sound fundamentally, But in this game against a
very talented Dallas team, is probably the most fundamental football
that I've seen on I had the side of the
ball all season long.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
This was as a complete of games as you could
have possibly imagined. Now, there's an interesting sort of statistical
reference when it comes to Dak Prescott in his struggles
against the Broncos. He was zero and two coming into
this game, at a fifty five percent completion rate, four touchdowns,
three picks, have been sacked I think four or five
times in the two games that he played, and again
that was twenty seventeen and I think twenty twenty one, so.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's been a minute.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But for some reason, he just does not play well
against the Broncos, and that continued into this game. And
then to Dave's point, it did feel like he was
seeing ghosts out there. It feel as though he was
having a hard time settling into the game plan.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And give the defense a lot of credit for that.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
It's amazing what pressure can do.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But then the offense as well. The offense had an
again credit where it's due. The Cowboys defense is struggling,
they're banged up.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Those are all ul true statements.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Simultaneously, the offense had to continue to put pressure on
that and I think them giving that the Broncos defense
the lead, the significant lead, obviously really helped the Broncos
defense be able to have success too.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
All.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Right, So we're off rollly here on a victory Monday,
very excited to be here with you, Dave Logan, Ryan Ords,
Nick Ferguson. We are giving away all week long Broncos
Raiders tickets, so we're going to give you opportunities to
win that every single day.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
This week night game.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yes, that's right, next week, Thursday night game. So that's
what we kind of have to do it this week.
But we'll tell you more about that coming up in
just a little bit. But when we come back, Ian
Rappaport is going to join us.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's next.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Toss is left side. This is Harvey Harvey with a
big run.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Our Jette Harvey is loose twenty fifteen ten five touchdown.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The rookie RJ.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Harvey a house call, a forty yard house call and
the Broncos bouncing front with eight thirteen left in the
first quarter six to three.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Now, I know we sometimes don't always say the nicest
things about Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Get that out of the way.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
By the way, Ian Rapport looks like it's gonna be
an hour from now, we had Carson Wentz going to
IR News that just broke a little bit ago, so
that that's going to lay him a little bit.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
He's going to join us around four thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
My guy, Trevor Snikama with Pro Football Focus to read
this out said that play was the highest graded play
of the season for Pro Football Focus, like basically everybody
doing their job, everybody executing for whatever this means. But
he said minors specifically, who is ridiculous If you go
back and watch that, he said, earn the first plus
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one and a half on a scale of minus two
to plus two on a run black of the season.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So well, what that means.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He climbed to the second level and the linebacker was
in big, big trouble, right because you're trying to the
linebacker sees the action, he knows it's going to his right.
He's trying to get across the face of Quinn Minors,
and when he sort of walks across the intersection, so
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to speak, he gets run over by a dump truck.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I mean, he just gets like.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
It shows you the strength of these offensive linemen, in
particular Quinn Minors, because he just with two hands just
sends the linebacker airborne. Then some poor safety that is
built like Nick comes flying up and here comes seventy
seven who's built a little differently than Nick. And I
think the safety like said uh no and tapped out
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and he went down. He went down to the ground.
I know you wouldn't have, but he did.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Sure wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
And then he then, after making sure of the demise
of the turtled safety, he turned back around and got
even a little piece of somebody else running.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You know that. That was one of those plays. I
was sitting next to some of the scouts and I
just looked like, did you actually see that? Because usually,
you know this day, as a player, you have one
job to do, and most of the time when you're
grading players, they do their job.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But now you're asking players, can you go beyond that?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, And to watch Quinn Minors get his guy and.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They say you know what, I'm not done. Let me
find someone else.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
And I was so excited as a guy who studied
the run game and love just kind of running into
you know, running backs, to say, if everyone on the
offensive line took on the same personality of a Quem Minors,
could you imagine the feats that this Broncos run game
could accomplish if.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Everyone is I'm gonna get my guy and I'm going
next level.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
But I would also add this in the NFL man
that that looked a little bit like a high school
play in this regard, I mean it was. I believe
it was just a toss. It was a Pinna pool
Number one. NFL teams don't run that too many times.
They just don't. When's the last time you saw on
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a toss that a defender did not get a hand
on the running back from forty yards out? I mean,
Archie Harvey did not have a Dallas Cowboy. If we
were playing flag football and you could toss it in
flag football or the running back.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Nobody grabbed his flag the whole time until he got
to the end zone. Very true.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So for me, I don't know how you guys see it,
And I know we're talking about Quinn minors. But that
play started with one player in my particular mind, and
that was Pat Bryant. Because Pat could have easy laid.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Off the linebacker. But what he did was he had
great hand placement.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
He put his left hand on his hip and rolled
him right past.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
He could have said, you know, once again, I shilled it.
I did my job. But no, he say, no, I
need to finish. And the first thing I thought was
no block, no rock, no block, no rock, right, because
great job, Grant.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
He did a heck of a job because he got
the first block that actually sprung RJ.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Harvey.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And like Dave said, man, it was just an alley.
No one was in his alley, and it wasn't a
dark alley because it was it was paid with gold,
go straight to the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Remarkable.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Do you see Officiel Schwartz after that play tweeting out,
He said, am I nuts, am I seeing a little
Barry Sanders in the way that r. J. Harvey runs,
the stature, the change of direction, the way his toe
almost does that little kick at the end when he's
striding it out, not doing a direct comp at all,
So don't take it as much.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
But aesthetically, it's what I see.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I hadn't.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I didn't see that tweeked and I hadn't. I hadn't
really thought about that, But.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I mean, you watch it like I didn't think about
it either, And again.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
He said his running style, Yeah, Harvey's running style is
similar to Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
The change of direction and so rewatching it. With that
in mind, I see kind of where he's coming from. Again,
that's your comping to one of the greatest of all
time and probably my favorite running back of all time.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But there was that sort of shift that he had.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And again he wasn't touched right, there was no arm
laid on him.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But he also contributed to that.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Like in the cut that he made, he sort of
took a little bit of a dip out to the outside,
just just enough where they didn't have a chance to
even get close to him.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well, I mean he listened.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
He was an explosive player at at Central Florida, right,
so he's I mean, he's a guy started a quarterback,
started his career at quarterback in college, and now he's
a running back. And I think I think the Broncos
are trying to get him, you know, up up the
speed a little bit on offense, and what a great
sort of change of pace back he can turn into.
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With respect to JK. Dobbins, I will I will say
this about R. J.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Harvey.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
I'm not crazy about him back there on kickoffs. Now,
nobody out there has asked me, and they might say,
you know what, that's fine, have a sip of shut
the hell up, and that's fine. But I'm just saying
I'm watching you, and I'm like, hmm, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You might see more of him if Marvin Mims is
going to miss this game.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah right, yeah, with the concussion, is what I'll say
about RG Harvey. He coming out of she reminded me
of Ray Rice, who used to play for Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They kind of built the same.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
But if you're looking at that particular play and say, well,
what guy would I compare him to, it wouldn't be embarrassanders.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It would either be Ray Rice or Frank Gore.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Right, They looked kind of the same because once they
get on the edge, they're going vertical. There's no hesitation
that they're looking. They're not looking for contact, they're looking
for daylight and then running off the backside. I don't
know who was the right What was that was that
Powlchowski the left guard, and he set it up perfect.
It's almost like a pump retire because you trail behind
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that player, then you run off his backside and that's
where it was.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Off the backside to the left, straight to the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
He's been I think there's been some really nice things
in the passing game. You were talking about it earlier
about trying to get him going in the run game,
and I know for some Broncos fans because it was
talked about during training campus, like, Okay, the outside stuff's great,
and obviously he can be very explosive in that, but
you want to know that he can also run between
the tackles because you don't want to tip your hand
every time he's in the game. And it did seem
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like we're still trying to get him outside a lot.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
I think he showed that he's gonna have that kind
of ability. When you think back to the Cincinnati game.
I thought the Cincinnati game for r. J. Harvey was
a game he settled in and reminded me a little
bit in terms of his patience that that maybe Dobbins
had rubbed off on him a little bit. Dobbins is
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a is a professional back, right, He's he's going to
set blockers up, even in a confined space. Is both
feet are usually on the ground, and he's patiently waiting
to see.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
He's just really, really good at that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
And I thought Harvey in the Cincinnati game, and it
was probably the first time I'd seen it, at least
with my own eyes, I thought he developed.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
A little bit of that ability.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
That's that jump cut manly Danian Thomson had a mean
jump cut and stiff.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
On oh man, that's another favorite.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
You just don't want to be on the highlight.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'd say, in no particular order, Barry Sanders, Ladanians up there.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I always loved Arian Foster's a.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Really good player with and O. J. Simpson for you
didn't you weren't you a big OJ guy?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I mean he's like Hurts rings card well, definitely, I
mean hurt commercials were phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Though he had is yes he did, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
But yeah the glove, but no, I mean listen, as
a running back, how could you not be a fan
of what he did his running back.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He went for over two thousand and he did it
in fourteen games, just saying, just from strictly a football standpoint,
that's an amazing feat mix.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
A deep drop, looks left, throws a ball, He's got
Pat Bryant in the corner of the x ol.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Brian makes the catch, touchdown Denver twenty four yards and
Pat Bryant's first NFL touchdown reception was a beauty for me.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I was happy inside seeing a young man do that.
But also the touchdown passed over the shower. You know
how well Ben doesn't know because Ben always gets on
receivers who drop over the show the plane.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I'm like, you know how difficult that is to make
that type of catch on the run.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And full speed.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's right, Gosh started right, that's why. And I'm not
saying that adding a wide receiver. Like over the weekend,
we saw a report from Diana Rascini saying that the
Jacksonville Jaguars are listening to calls or fielding calls on
Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm a huge fantasy. No, no, it got me.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I'm sorry, what intrigued.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like, first of all, Jacksonville, you're idiots, But that's okay,
it's all Brandon. But if they are, that's that's an
intriguing player. Up to this point, there hasn't really been
an intriguing receiver for me to come off of my
point of I'd rather see more from the guys that
you you haven't really involved in yet, because up to
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this point it's like, hey, Pat Bryan is still barely
being utilized. We're at times not utilizing Marvin Mims enough
or even Troy Franklin enough, right Like, I like this
receiving core potential is the word that a lot of
people can keep using, but it can be more than that,
and you certainly see some of that in this game
against Dallas.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
So for me that that's why I kept.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Saying, I don't need to trade for a wide receiver
if we're going to talk about an interior offensive lineman
because your death is being tested there or a tight end.
I could get in or and bor some of those conversations,
but wide receiver didn't make a lot of sense to
me until us how that name and that name. I
was like, okay, well forget everything I just said. I
could be very into Brian Thomas Junior if that is
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indeed somebody that's available, So.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I could be talked into him, Yes, him specifically.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I mean everybody else comes with a bunch of
other baggage or or needing a contract. You know, there's
a lot of other stuff there, right, So it's a
crystal well, gosh, he's got the concussion history there and
he needs a new contract. If it was Jaylen Waddle
is already being paid a pretty decent amount of money.
Plus he's got some injury history stuff that I'm not
like too thrilled about. And you know, the other names
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out there didn't really you know, Allen Blizard, that doesn't
really move the needle for me, right, So there's not
there wasn't a lot of other wide receiver names. But
Brian Thomas that does move the needle for me. I mean,
associate with another two and a half three years of
contract with the contract on him.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But the whole idea is that every team should be
trying to get better, not to say that they are.
So if Jacksonville is tossing out that, yeah, you want
to listen, what what is it that that type of
young receiver is now going for in today's NFL?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Would that be so you know, well, is.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
That a second rounder or is that a second rounder
in the player and then you have that conversation. So
if we were to do that, Ryan, you know, and
this is just you and I acting as though we are,
you know, George Peyton and Sean Payton having a conversation. Sure,
if we were to do that, who would be that
added player we are willing to part ways with to
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acquire said receiver?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, that would be interesting to see what Jacksonville needed
at that point, right, For example, do they need secondary help?
Your secondary death is already being tested right now, but
it seems like that would be a position that they
would probably be looking for some help plus draft picks.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And this is why depth is so important, because it
makes your team better on either side of the ball,
but also supplies you with assets that can be moved
around like chess pieces to give to another team to
acquire better player.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
By the way, Ben Alright, your co host in Broncos
Country Tonight, at times not impressed all that much with
Pat Bryan's catch. He said, those receivers are paid to
make those over the shoulder catches. That's literally what they're
paid millions of dollars to do. That's me joining vampire.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Joy Vampires said perfectly by a person who's never been
in that position, not knowing how tough that is. I'm
just saying, man, so you have to one get off
the jam or beat the zone coverage. You have to
track the ball in there with a guy in phase
with you, and then Pat Bryan's case, you have to
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stay in bounds, right in bounds. Because both threw the
ball perfectly. He threw it, he wasn't throwing it to
Pat Brian. He threw it to the back Pola and
Pat just had to get there and it's over the
sholder Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I was impressed by it, but again, that's that's sort
of been. Ben had the same take last night on
winning against Dallas, was like, well, that defense is really bad,
so that's.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
What you should have done.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, technically, I'm in agree with him on that because
that defense wasn't that great.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
But you still had to do it.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
But you still had to do it though, you still
had to get out there and do it.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
But I always so been we can, you know, call
Peyton Manning and throw him over to show the catches
and see how many actually hauls in.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
We might have to do that. You might have to
do that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, So I mentioned this earlier all week long, We're
to give you a chance to win a pair of
tickets to Broncos Raiders on November sixth.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Not now, just be listening for the Q to call.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Also, by the way, this week's daily ticket winners are
qualified for two reserve seating tickets and a red carpet
walk for the premiere of Lway, the documentary screening at
the Denver Film Festival, chronicling John Elway's iconic career. Tickets
available available right now at denverfilm dot org. But each
winner this week is going to be qualified for two
(34:39):
reserve seating tickets and a red carpet walk premiere.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Red carpet I know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
How about that? You've ever done the red carpet?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I have?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah, how is it?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's pretty awesome. Yeah, I've never done the walk. I've
covered red carpets as a media member. But it's different.
As you know, you're just like talking to people as
they're walking by the red carpet walk where you stand
and you pose.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And you.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Oh yeah you do stand in poe yeah a little
bit right. You asked the questions, yes, many times? Have
you done that? Three times? Nice? I did it?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
In Vegas during the Super Bowl, and I did it
twice and when I lived in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Very nice.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
It moves like movie premiers.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yes, what yeah, which which movie do you remember?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You man?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Mome on now, oh we got a break coming up.
No we don't.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
What do we don't?
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But what.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Movies? What movies?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't recall it.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Oh, come on, you definitely recall. I see you smiling.
What what movies?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
What is it with me smiling?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Just one? Just give me one movie that you were
as the premiere for.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
A movie. That's not you said a movie. Give you
a movie and the name of the movie or gods,
let me think about it. It comes to me.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
It was like super Bad or something like that.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Was it? It was like, no, se now you press
me on, say I've been so long ago. Give me
a moment and you'll come to me. Yeah, give me
a moment.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
We'll see if we can get to that, and we
come back.
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