10-29-25 KOA Sports Hour 1 with Rick Lewis

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, nice hats, thank you. I love them.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Long Beach dudes, Long Beach, I see the Long Beach
or as u uh, yeah, you don't have any Denver gear.
I got all kinds of Denver. Well, let's let's think
about pulling it out. I've got all kinds of broncos
hats that I wear a casion.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
But let's go. There was a funny moment yesterday.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
So we had Jake Plumber on and Rick was listening
to the show Dave, and he texted me he said, hey,
tell him go Devils. And I was thinking about the
ABS playing the New Jersey Devils, and.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was like, well, he's gonna hang up on me.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm sure he's not a New Jersey Well I'm like,
what that spotted him? Like, he's gonna hang up on me?
Why would I do that? And then he's like Sun
Devil's Ryan.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm like, oh wow, that's yeah. Did you tell him
something I told Vils And I said, I shouted you out.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
And and again I felt very sheepish because it's very
obvious the connection there. But for whatever reason, I had
the ABS playing the New Jersey Devils last night on
my mind, and so I was like, why would I
tell him go devils?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Like you had a little senior moment there, a little bit,
a little bit. Yeah, it happens to everybody. Well, I
mean not everybody. Dave, how are you good? See you guys,
I'm good. How are you good? Doing good? There?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Rick?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Good to see you too.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
So yeah, man, very excited.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I mean I really want to ask you about this Sunday,
but you know, I'll say, well, we'll get to that
another time. The trade deadline stuff has been a lot
of fun. I also want to shout out Aiden Hutchinson,
who is probably feeling a little bit better about life today.
You're Detroit Lions. That is Detroit Lions, Aiden Hutchinson. Do
you realize they've given out? And I think I saw

(01:40):
this like a billion oh no, no, no, hold on, like
half a billion dollars I think is what the no? No,
the nine hundred and sixty eight point five million in
committed salaries over the last like few contracts with Jared Goff,
Aiden Hutchinson, I'm on Ross saying Barn, I mean, they've

(02:01):
just been hey, Detroit, you guys got some.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Good players there, but that does cost a pretty penny.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
They're paying everybody, and they've got a lot of good players.
That's what you do. And they haven't won anything yet. Really,
they haven't won a Super Bowl. They've never even played
in the Super Bowl in their history. So they got
the team, they got them paid. This could be either year, though,
I do think they at least go to the Super
Bowl this year. Well, you think they at least go

(02:27):
to this I think they at least go I can't
predict that they would win. Haven't been a Lions fan
my whole life, Dave, I can't help it.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
That is just the way you put that.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I think they at least go to the Super had
Lions PTSD like you were saying.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I think they at least make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean they at least I think.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I think they'll come out of the NFC. I think
they've got a chance.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I don't know that they're I think they're good enough
on offense for the most part. I'm not sure they're
good enough on defense. I agree, that's that's the only
thing I'm worried about. But you know what happened in
the last couple of years with them. They've got injured,
but they've had great regular seasons. They get into the playoffs,
they get knocked right out of it. Well because half
of their more than half of their defense didn't play

(03:11):
last year when when the Commanders went to Detroit, I
mean it was it was if you didn't care about Detroit.
When you looked at the lineup on defense, You're like,
who are these guys? The guys I'd never heard of?
So you know they have to avoid that. But I
like what they do on offense. You're not even leading
the division right now. I mean, you're staring up at

(03:33):
Green Bay. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm kind of
going out on a limb when I say they at
least go to.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
The super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm giving them the benefit of the gumber are I'm
giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's a weird, but it's a weird benefit of the doubt.
To Dave's point, like, I've never heard it phrase that way, just.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Because nobody ever has said it.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a feeling that I have this year, Okay, because
this is it. Like Dave said, their offense is really
really good.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Those are the lyrics of a song. It's a feeling.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I get this when I look to look to the east.
Here that's a stairway to have it. There you go, Yeah,
where you're there.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, it's good. Every guitar player has to learn it
at some points.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Because I was walking in the Hedge Rows in London
two weeks ago and that song was in my head.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
That song.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, I hope your team at least gets to the
Super bowls. Well man, that's again, you're not you're so
bold to say they.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Will make the super Bowl and win it. I think
they get there, but they get there, but that would
be an accomplishment for them. Well yeah, but why don't
you're there? Why don't we just win it?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I can't go that far yet, but you would know.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
You would know if you grew up Alliance fan. Yeah,
they haven't been good my entire life until the last
couple of years. Yeah, think about that, my entire life.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, this is the year.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I feel like NFC Championship would be kind of the whatever. Anyways,
good stuff of the lines. It continues to make the
Nick b Neil contract look unbelievable. So again, Aiden Hutchinson
gets one hundred and forty one million guaranteed. He's now
the second highest paid edge rusher behind Micah Parsons. I
think he comes in around forty five and a half

(05:12):
something along those lines. Forty six Benito twenty six and
a half per.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Looks like a good deal. He's not even in the
top ten right now. I'd say, Benito, how old is Hutchinson?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Hutchinson is twenty six, He is twenty five five, just
turned twenty five.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Banto is the same as Benito twenty four.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It was Benio's twenty six, Botto's twenty six.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, Listen, what I would say about Benito's deal
is he's on a trajectory where and you have to
stay healthy obviously, but the.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Next contract for him, I mean, who knows where that
slot will be for elite edge pass rushers, right, So yeah,
it's uh.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I think you have.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, Hutchison is a motor running hot all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Guy.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't think he has the same kind of elite
athletic ability off the edge, but I love his game.
I mean I would not I'd love to have Aiden
Hutchison on any team that I was rooting for, for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh yeah, I mean no doubt.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
And he is somebody who was making the argument today
when I was posting about Nick Bonito and the value
of that contract.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's like, well, Aiden Hutchinson plays more Nick Benito.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's like, well, Niicptido has more sacks and more pressures
in a part time role. I actually think that says
more about Nick Bonito than it does about Aiden Hutchinson,
even though I think he's a fantastic player. He's a
pillar in that community. He's really he's one of their
cornerstone players. This is a deal that was gonna get done,
and by the way, it doesn't out there for Detroit.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You guys got Jamiir Gibbs on the other side. Sam
Laporte is another guy. Jack Campbell is a guy.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean Detroit loaded, yeaded some contract well loaded, and
we got some contracts coming.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So just hand it out. Gibbs a billion. He might
be the best running back in the league. Would you
look at Jamir Gibbs the way he's playing now, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Would you take Vjon or Jamiir? I take Vjeon.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I go it too now. Gibbs Gibbs, I think is faster.
Gibbs when you more explosive, I would say, when you
put yeah, I mean Gibbs. Gibbs is one of the
I would bet three or four, four or five at worst.
Fastest backs in football. B Jeon Robinson to me is

(07:38):
the best running back in football because he can run
with power. He can make you miss in a confined area.
He's an excellent pass receiver. He's got home run threat.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Although Jonathan Taylor is making a case.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, but Taylor's not as good to me as Bijon
in the passing game. The Taylor's big time fact. Taylor
be in the top five in terms of speed.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You think he has a shot at the MVP this year?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Jonathan Taylor, Yeah, I mean there's seven to one. I
haven't followed him from a statistical thing. I mean they
feed him all the time. I mean, if Indianapolis goes
on and it looks like they're going to win their
division at that point and Taylor comes in with another
eighteen hundred yard season, I mean he's going to be
right there.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
He has one hundred and forty three carries for eight
hundred and fifty yards, averaging five point nine per carry,
twelve rushing touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
The thing that strikes me about those stats five point nine, yeah,
per carry. That shows you he's I mean, he's a
home run threat. He's a guy that Imy was a sprinter.
You look at him, he's like, well, wait a minute,
he's two hundred and twenty five pounds, but he's one
of the five fastest backs we have in our league.
So yeah, I think if they continue to play well,

(08:50):
and he's got over eight hundred now in eight games, right,
in sixteen games, let's say so now he's going to
have over sixteen hundred plus a game. So he's going
to be close to eighteen hundred yards if he stays healthy.
So would he be in the MVP conversation? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, with twenty rushing touchdowns. Yeah at that point. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, they have been. They have been. I think the
surprise story of the league. Now, somebody in this room
told you that the Colts were going to be good
this year. I did, I know, and I said it early.
I said it early.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I told you.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I thought it was me telling you. I don't remember.
I think, yeah, did you? Well, Daniel, some people were
saying Daniel Jones might be in the MVP race. That's now,
that's a little I still think that's a little far fetched.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's a yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm quit there for that one.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
What are Daniel Jones' stats? I know you've got Indianapolis
on your mind.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I do have any Well, yeah, I have a lot
of things on my mind. I had to be some
sort of ballot as well.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Two thousand and sixty two passing yards, which is fourth
best in the league right now, thirteen passing touchdowns which
is eleventh, and he's only got only three interceptions.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So two thousand yards thirteen even three after eight that'd
be four thousand, twenty six and four. So he you know,
if he just keeps pace with what he's done, he's
going to have, you know, forty three hundred yards and
twenty eight touchdowns and maybe four or five interceptions. Oh,

(10:18):
nis a lot better stats than that. Yeah, I think
bow will have better yards. I think you'll have more
touchdowns and yeah, okay, should Bob in that conversation, I
would not trade I would not trade Bo for Daniel Jones,
would you There? No, No, we saw Daniel Jones have
a year like that with the Giants a couple of
years ago, but I don't know that he was he

(10:41):
had that great of statistics. He was a running threat
and did a great job and they beat Minnesota in
the playoffs. I don't remember exactly what his stats were
for the year.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, this is out of that twenty twenty two season,
I think.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So he had three two hundred and five passing ours,
fifteen touchdowns, five picks. But you're saying for the running game,
he had over seven hundred rushing yards and seven rushing touchdowns. Yeah, okay,
So well.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
We knew after the game the Broncos had with the
Colts how good that team looked in that game.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Broncos should have won the game.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And lost, actually did Broncos didn't win the game, and
then all of a sudden, oops, there's a flag. I'm
just saying we were both we were both impressed with
the Colts. I remember coming on here and saying, Hey,
the Cults are going to be a playoff team, and
people said, you're an idiot, you're a homer. What are
you talking about. You could just tell they they've got

(11:30):
something this year. How far they'll go in the playoffs,
who knows, But Daniel Jones certainly has nine lives as
a quarterback in the NFL, no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
If I gave you the Cults or the field to
be the number one seed in the AFC Day, which
when you go field field, Okay, you.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Don't think they're going to build su same.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, I just I just like the odds. You know,
who would it be then? Just theoretically, I think it
could be one of three teams, Denver, Casey, Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So the interesting thing, of course is the Broncos don't
have the tiebreakers, so they'd have to somehow leapfrog them
and win.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I mean I hadn't checked the Colts schedule, right, I mean, yeah,
the Broncos have a tougher division than the Colts do.
Very true. So yeah, I mean who's left with Indianapolis. Well,
they got Pittsburgh this week in Pittsburgh, and then Holman
gets Atlanta. They got their bye, then they got Casey, Houston, Jacksonville, Seattle,

(12:32):
San Franz, Jacksonville, and Houston.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
So again their division. I mean they had two games Jacksonville,
two games, was Houston? Yeah? Exactly? So is that I
mean I take the field, take the field? Yeah about
you Rick saying yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
The Broncos are six and two, the Colts are seven
and one, the Chiefs are five and three, correct, what
are the Bills seven?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
And wait? They're five and two, the five and two
because they just they just their buy Yeah, I mean,
I mean look at their division.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, all right, they played the Jets twice, the Dolphins twice.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Now New England's a little bit better this year. England.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Everybody keeps talking about Drake May as an MVP candidate.
Sometimes there's just like and maybe it is the Daniel
Jones conversation. It's like when you're surprised by something, right, like, Okay,
we think Drake May could be better, and then all
of a sudden he is better, and then it's.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Like, ah, this guy's gotta be in the MVP can conversation.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
It's like, all right, well, because New England was I
can't even remember what they're over under. I think it
was around the Broncos. I think it's like eight and
a half, nine and a half of the season. But
I like when New England's building there. They traded key
On White yesterday.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
By the way, I saw that, Dave, I saw that, yeah,
yea yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
And another trade happened today.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Michael Carter with the Jets got traded to the Eagles.
Howie Roseman man always mining mining those opportunities, John Mets
you on the move again as well, the trade deadline
coming up that that's actually been a really big topic.
You know, Internet, Dave. I do my best to stay
on it all day to make sure that we as
a show.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know what I say, Ryan, stay right with it,
Stay right with He's never off the Internet, no, I know,
and social media. It's his people, my people.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I said.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
By the time I'm thinking fifteen to twenty years, the
Internet will have its own political party.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think he's onto something.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I'm about thirty percent serious.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I mean, well campaign manager, you know, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Less of thirty percent serious about that. But I'm just
saying I think that, you know, I think I think
it's a very popular movement.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I think you right. But the trade deadline stuff is fascinating.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I guess Jeremy Fowler is out there as we played
that Adam Schefter sound yesterday, sort of drumming the beat
that the Broncos are really still in on receivers. They
did sign Marcedes Lewis to their practice squad today, forty
one year old Marcedes Lewis about that, Yeah, they.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Got in nineteen eighty four, Mercedes Mercedes, you know, and
you guys, I'm sure because you're on the internet all.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Day long, day, all day long.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
If he plays this year, he'll be the oldest tight
end to ever play in an NFL game.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, at forty one, I know.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
And he played all seventeen games last year for the Bears.
He started four games, So there's probably a pretty good
chance they're going to use him this year and hopefully
he's still a good blocking tight end because he's been
one of the best in his career.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Was a massive bonker. We talked about yestually in a massive
human He's a big old dude, six to sixty eight.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
They were having some fun today again on the internet
talking about Mercedes Lewis draft class, which, by the way,
he was a rookie when Sean Payton was a rookie
with New Orleans, which.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Is really I mean, think about that, Just think about
that in.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Twenty years in the league, Dave, can you imagine how
he's going to feel when he's fifty five.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
He's forty one.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Now, I can't even imagine how he'll feel when he's
forty five. I'm thinking the same, but you can't. How
does the field now? We must feel pretty good, he's it.
He must pretty good. The things necessary to get a
tryout and impress them enough in the tryout that they
would sign.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
He's a freak. If so, his draft class doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
His draft class Mario Williams, Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Matt Lioners,
Jay Cutler, Devin Hester, Vernon Davis, Super Bowl champion Vernon Davis,
Brandon Marshall, a j Hawk, Andrew Whitworth, Maurice Jones, Drew
Jarry Evans. Wow, and the head coach of the Texans
who were playing this week, Tomko Ryans.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
He was in that draft class. Yes, oh wow, use him?
This week is early his Sunday.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, you get three call ups, and if Nate Adkins
can't go, it makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I mean, if what does he need to know?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
I don't know, Dave, you played some tight end. I
mean maybe you could tell me, like, what does he
what does he mean?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
He never played tight end in my life. No, I
tell you, like a little guard or tackle the way. Yeah,
probably when you were I was a patch player when
I was like nine. Then that offensive tackle, that's what
I figured. The only time I got to touch the
ball was when they had in tackles switch.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
That was play. Oh man, So what did you weigh
in a tackle? Switch? Rick?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't have any, honestly any recollection of exactly what I.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Weighed when I was nine. Well, what was it? You
know you weighed when you were nine?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I could guess what because I know what I weighed
in seventh grade. It was one hundred and twenty pounds
limit in the league I was in. So I weighed
one fifty five in ninth grade. Wow, okay, yeah, and
I was one thirty in ninth grade, so you were
I don't know what I waited nine, but I was skinny.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
How would I know? Rick?

Speaker 2 (17:49):
If you don't know, ask uh, you probably ask your
wife because she's probably got like a scrap book somewhere
that has pictures of you.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
What in the hell after you and weight in the
scrap book.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I didn't know when, but I'm sure she's got the
scrap book.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'm sure too.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I'm sure she kept taking kept.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Track of kept track of my nine year old strap book.
I remember I played for Lakewood Optimist. You do, okay, Oh,
there you go. They were known as the Optimists. That
was the name of the team, or the Optometrist Optimist
lake Wood optimist. So that was the nickname. That was

(18:38):
the name of the team.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
People. Listen, we had a juggernaut because you were so optimist.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'll give you one other little little tidbit of information
that really is totally irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
We were the first Little League team.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
To travel out of the state of Colorado. We got
a picture at the Governor's office with the then governor
and we took this is a true story, took the
train to Dallas, the train, oh to Dallas, Texas and
played a team from Mesquite, Texas and beat them. What

(19:16):
great is this? We were I think we were either
nine or ten. We were pee wee's mane. That's why
you're such an optimistic person to this day. That's exactly
You've always been an optimist. Yep, I didn't even know that.
So what is the like the mascot for an optimist ecologist?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah? Really, yeah, I mean that's with like a light.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like yeah, like a miners miners Wow, yeah, I want
to see pictures.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, And I'm sure you yeah, ever.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Said so frying go ahead to think, oh damn, we
have to take a break. We have to take a break,
you guys. Yeah, opted.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Horrible. They just into my mind. Optimist. Yeah, the Lake Optimist.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I'm gonna bring you your litle league team.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
We were the West of the River Raiders. Did y'all
live West of the river? We did at the old
Tangi River, Columbus, Ohio. Oh yeah, west of the River,
West of the River Raiders the river?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, there probably was.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Did you judge them like gods east here?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Like a big rivalry for you guys? Probably? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
That's all here Wednesday, little something about day today.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's so great. I knew everything about Dave helmets like
that in mine. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, all right, we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Somebody's asking, are we giving away tickets to the Broncos
Raiders game today?

Speaker 1 (20:56):
We are.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
We'll tell you more about that coming up. Is there
a bad led Zeppelin song? There's a lot of them, so, in.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Fact, Robert Plant doesn't really like the song. He doesn't
want to perform it anymore, and he gives Jimmy Page
all the credit for creating a musical.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Genius song.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
But Robert Plant said his lyrics don't really hold up
over the years. He probably can't get up to where
he got up to. He can't sing them anymore. But
he said the lyrics. He said he wrote these when
he was a young man, and he said they just
haven't held up, they haven't aged. Well that's the that's
the beauty of in this case, the music we're talking about, right,

(21:46):
I mean, that's an iconic song. What was that Rick
sixty seven?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I don't know the seventy three, two or three I
thought it was.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I thought was seventy one, seventy one, okay in between.
Probably the biggest rock song ever. Yeah, so it holds
up because of what you just said. It's maybe the
biggest rock song. It's fantastic song. Don't worry about the lyrics.
There's plenty of songs that have lyrics that don't play
well nowadays. Well, it wasn't nowadays when the song was written. Yeah,

(22:19):
And he mentioned something like he was into like J. R.
Tolkien books or something back then, and he said a
lot of the lyrics were inspired by that. And he said,
now when I hear am, I kind of cringe. I'm paraphrasing.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Okay, while I walked in the mailbox and cash my
check a huge actually huge.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, absolutely you did find out today Sean Payton was
talking a little bit earlier, would not give us any
details on pats er Tan.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I can see that you're stunned by that news day. No, no, no,
I'm not You're not. No.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I will give our media some credit though, and I
haven't gone through the whole pressure, but the part I
heard was have you considered ir yep? With Pat so
not asking what's the status of Patzertan, have you considered
y are?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And just to look on Sean's.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Face like you think you're clever, huh, I'm giving you
that one.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well, Sean made it very clear at the start of
the season, and I'm paraphrasing, I'm not ever going to
talk about injuries and until the league mandates in a
different way that head coaches have to answer questions from
the media, which I don't think the league.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Will do, this is what we're going to get.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
He's in say some very glowing things about Chris Abrams
drain though this was nice.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Well, I think two things that stand out, and I'm
looking at him right now. He's extremely intelligent, and I
would say he might have the best hands on this team.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
He's got elite ball skills and so now he's quiet, but.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
Real good football instincts and really good ball skills.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I think that's smart from a veteran coach. Whether he
totally believes it or not, I don't know, not acting
like I can get in his head. But what I
think that was about is the head coach infusing some
confidence into a young player because listen, dude, you're gonna
have to be the guy and you can do it.

(24:22):
I believe in you, We believe in you. Let's go
down there, no excuses. We're not changing Jack. We're gonna
go at people and we expect you to cover.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Ian this morning tweeted out that the Broncos are not
planning on placing him passer Tan on injury reserve.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I believe that to be accurate.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Do you think and we were, of course speculating, but
we were speculating yesterday about the timeline because it's four
games if you did IR four weeks.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Four games, which should be five weeks, right, So do
you think that that?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I mean, as we're talking about it, is that in
your opinion kind of like okay, well to buy is
where it is, and maybe that's part of the reason
why they didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I think that is accurate too.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think they factor in, Hey, is there a possibility
that we could get him back within the five weeks?
Because if you put him on IRS, you just if
you just said you lose him essentially for five weeks.
Can we get him back in four weeks given the
fact that one of those weeks is a bye And

(25:24):
I think I think they're optimistic that that can happen.
I think the news they got was maybe moderately better
than what they thought they might get back. I had
Dog Schneider on my show yesterday. I know you guys
had him on Monday, and a listener just texted in
to tell you guys what he said on my show.

(25:46):
Duch Schneider hasn't seen the MRIs or anything like that,
but he said, I would bet you he ends up
having surgery, yeah, on that pack, and then he's out
for the year, if Doc Schneider's right, and he said,
I hope I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well Doc said that on our show too on Monday.
But again, it feels like if that was the lean,
wouldn't we already be talking about that.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Maybe they're just hopeful, optimistic, like maybe this could work out.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Well, But why would he I mean, and I'm not
saying again this is you know, docs a doc and
I'm not trying to tell him like he didn't see
what he saw.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
But if if it is just a I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I I saw another doc pro football doc on Twitter
he said, this confirms that it's a good type of
peck injury, a muscle strain not tended to tear and
thus no surgery.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
So and again we're getting into the.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Weeds of the doctor stuff that I none of us
get a chance to play doctor here.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
But I just I just say, did you ever play doctor?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well that I did as a kid. Matter of fact,
I was awake. What optimistic?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know I do? I bet yeah. It doesn't quite
big head trophy?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, yeah, first okade I ever explored.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
No.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I mean we were outside in the backyard and it
was he lived right near a cave. Yeah right right, yeah,
they have a lot of them. And I grew up
right off West Coote.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, Dave, you remember I tore my peck.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I think nine years ago, I made we made you.
You came in.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
You'd been I think you were benching like what seventy
what was it eighty five pounds?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And you came in and you good drive? What wasn't.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I was two and a quarter. Now I'm talking about
what you were benching. That's what I was benching. Okay,
So and you came in right and he could not.
I mean we made him say right after the show
you're going to You made me go into the emergency,

(27:49):
left early to go because I made me go. And yeah,
and I had a torn pack. I didn't have a
torn tendon, and so they never did surgery. But even
with just a torn peck, I wouldn't have been able.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
To play football for a long time. No, that's right.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I got a picture you want to see.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, just happened to pull it up.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Huh, that's that day you saw in person. I saw
that every day. I saw the picture every single day
of that man. Rick can come in and say, hey,
look look at my peck, because I did take a
picture every day, and then the next he'd swiped to
the right. Yes, and then here's a picture of the
puka shells. Well, every day I would take a picture
because every day I got worse. So I have from

(28:30):
day one to day five. Yeah, pictures. It was ugly,
it's nasty. There was a significant tear in your pack. Yeah, absolutely,
it was bleeding all down my side.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Basically, yeah, under the skin, Yeah it was. It was
a nasty well that's all that. It's not the case
for passage hand.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I do feel like Ian wouldn't have sent that tweet
out if there was even a lean that this is
what Dug schneiders is suggested.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
But keep keep this in mind with respect to Ian,
who does a great job. Other NFL insiders, where are
they getting their information from? By and large, they get
their information from the team, by and large, So the

(29:14):
team is optimistic.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
And hopeful that Pat's able.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
To come back by not placing him an ir you
tell your team, hey, we think he's going to come back,
which that's exactly what the team wants to hear, what
they need to hear. Now it's like, hey, we just
got to keep things going because we're getting number two back.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
And I hope that's the case. I do, but sort of.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
Like psychologically speaking, yes, I absolutely think to my core,
I believe that plays a significant factor in the messaging
coming from the team.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Great, great point, Yeah, you're because an injury, like to
your best player when you're having a good season, it
can really ruin morale or at least take you down
for a couple of weeks, and then you have to regroup.
I'm sure there's a chance that he could come back,

(30:15):
and as Doc Schneider said, he'll probably get two or
three other opinions and see if they could figure out
a way to get him back on the field. And
you can put a brace on it, you know, I
don't know how effective that would be or how he
could play. I don't know that you can brace the
torn peck. He said you could, He said you could.
You know, he's a shoulder He's a world class shoulder guy,

(30:37):
so you could lock in that shoulder where you couldn't
really move it. But he said he couldn't play with
the brace. He said he wouldn't be able to play
well with the brace like that?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Is that our chance to win one thousand dollars coming
up the next five minutes thanks to Mercedes Beens of Lilton,
Mercedes of Littleton.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Shortly after five o'clock.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Probably the best tease that can give you when it
comes to that, we're going to be given away as
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Speaker 1 (31:19):
So somebody who's asking if.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
If we're doing that, we're doing that again today tomorrow
and Rick will be with me again tomorrow, which would
be really fun, and then of course we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I'll get on Friday.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Speaking of Raiders, Al Davis's widow just passed away.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh, I didn't know. You didn't see that. No, I didn't.
You usually see everything.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I see something, you know, I miss I'm slipping. I'm
slipping in my old age one.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh, I got you on one. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yesterday and the Texters tay me up on this too, because.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I was I knew that they were had to make.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
A decision on Dray Green loss suspension yesterday, like they
had to make that decision, and the speculation was that
they were going to release Sam Ellinger and I hadn't
seen it officially from the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
So I was talking on air.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I was like, I was speculating that this is what
they're gonna do, and then somebody says, actually, Cliss had
that two hours.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Ago, so CLIs tweeted out that they did that already.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Now he's back today, by the way, on the practice squad,
also starting Mercedes Lewis.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Sean corrected the media. The media called it Marcedes.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
He's like this Mercedes, so yeah, it's spelled Marcedes, but yeah, Marcedes. Yeah,
she was ninety three, she was co owner of the
Raiders and now her son with the goofy haircut, is
the last one standing.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Mark Yep.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Remarkable here was Sean because he was asked about is
what he was he thinking about?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Mercedes Lewis playing in the league for twenty years.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
He's obsessed with taking care of himself.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
That has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I had checked on the mutual friend. You know, he's
been training two times a day. You know, in in
the world you can see that he's in shape.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah. I think someone asked.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Me, what's the most senior player you ever coached. I
don't think I've coached someone who's in your twenties. So
it's a pleasure to have him, and I'm glad he's here.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
He'll bring something. I think so too. And you spoke
with the media.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
We'll see if we get some of that audio, because
he spoke with the media outside the locker room today
and I guess he said he was at Joshua Tree
when he got the call. Huh, And he just basically
hopped on a flight, came out here, tried out for
the Broncos, and now he's a Bronco playing in year twenty.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's a Cali guy went to Long Beach Poly High School.
That high school has put out more NFL players than
any high school in the country.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Look it up. That's the truth. And like I said.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Last year, he played in all seventeen games for the Bears,
started four games, so he's obviously still has something left
in the tank. I don't think they're going to be
asking him to do much, but if he can block
at least adequately, it's a big body, he'll definitely add
something to this team.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
There's a lot of Broncos fans that really want them
to be active in the trade deadline, right And why
wouldn't you be You're six and two, you're leading the
AFC West.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
You're thinking this is the time.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
So many years, and I think part of it is
the response to so many years we've been the sellers,
right the trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Things haven't gone well.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
You're a week eight, week nine, and you're thinking great,
Well another season where you're starting to think about the
draft already midway through the season. That's not the case here.
You should be buyers. You could be buyers, but what
would you be buyers of? And that's been more the
discussion that I'm interested in. It's not so much that
they have to be And even Jeremy Fowler today on
ESPN says he expects the Broncos mostly to stand pat

(34:50):
but they are fishing.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I guess because I think.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
George Payton does this with everything around receivers and some
tight ends, and that's what they're looking at.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, we talked about that last week and I told
you I thought the Broncos should probably be taken a
look at a veteran wide receiver. Of that being said,
the young guys really bawled out against the Cowboys on Sunday,
but there haven't been consistently doing that. I'm talking about
Troy Franklin, Marvin Mims, and Pat Bryant. You could see

(35:23):
the potentials there, and I can see why they really
like these guys. But I would be okay if they
went out and got a veteran wide receiver to compliment
Courtland Sutton.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I'm okay with it too, And you've talked me into
considering it.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
We talked a week ago. I wouldn't give a lot
of draft capital for one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, there's a weird name that keeps getting floated around
out there. I mean, he's beside Rashid Shaheed with the Saints,
which would make some sense. He's in the final year
of his contract, and the scenes more or less would
made it known to anybody give us your best offer.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
He's probably gone. And of course there's season isn't going
in a way that they're going to hold on to Shaheed.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
But the name that keeps coming around is Jacoby Myers. Now,
I really like Jacoby Myers, but he's in division and
I don't know why the Broncos keep getting associated with
him because in division trades. Now again, this isn't, you know,
the Browns and the Bengals trading quarterbacks. I guess it
can't happen, right, And the Raiders could be like, we
don't really care because our season also isn't going well

(36:26):
and Jacoby has said he wants to be out. So
what do you what are you gonna give us for
Jacoby Myers? I don't know what. How much does that
move the needle for you? Yeah, that would be that'd
be great.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think if they could get him, how much would
you have to give to get him? I don't know.
We'd have to consider that, but I could see the Raiders.
They're looking at it now, probably is okay, we're officially
rebuilding here.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, two and five they're coming off there by Yeah,
they don't.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
They've lost a lot of it has a lot of
optimism going in because Pete Carroll does that. Yeah, you
just hire Pete Carroll. People are going to be excited
and now not so much. So Jacoby Myers would be
a great addition to the scene.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
The Texans just signed a tight end who was available.
Dalton Keene, third round draft pick from Virginia Tech, played
here at Chatfield. They went out and got him because
Dalton Schultz looks like he might be hurt. He didn't
practice today, he may be out on Sunday. So they
made that move. But that was another kid that was
out there at Broncos, maybe took a look at him.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
There's another tight end out there by the way that
there's some odds that the Broncos could go get.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Who's that I'll tell you next