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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, what's the country're going to say? Now?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
They can't say anything, so our record speaks for itself.
The guys in this room know who we are, and
the only people that we care about is the people
in this building, through our owners, through our coaches, to
the front office, to the players. Proud of this team,
a bunch of fighters, and if nobody else believes in us,
we're the only ones that care that believes in us,
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So everyone else can think what they want.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Didn't even get a Dragon Slayer sixty nine reference in there, Garrett,
And they care about the play by play guy very good,
very much. Yeah, well, let me I imagine our next guest.
We'll bring you something about your your the playoffs and
Fiday football. Who knows. Let's sit out to the kai
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together creating meaningful change with seventy two to charity. Garrett,
my friends, good stuff man the postgame locker room?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now are you I'm doing good?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
How are you guys doing good? Every time you bring
me on? Every week week? I hear Dave Logan's voice,
and then Broncos are world champions.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's the best. You know what you guys are.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Hey, stranger things have happened, my friend, Stranger things have happened.
I might be able to utter that phrase again. Hey,
let me ask you what is I mean. You've been
in this league by NFL standards a long time, You've
seen upstowns whatever. Now you you guys are nine to
two and you have a bye week.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So real talk.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
What is the left tackle, the starting left tackle the
Broncos do during a bye week? What that looks like
for you in terms of schedule.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That's a good question. I relaxed some Monday. I relax today.
I go to California. I just want to get my
mind off of football, to be honest, for a couple
of days. You know, make sure I'm doing a couple
of workouts this week. I probably have one or between
one and three workouts this week when I go to
California and just get away and take my family with
me and to be around them and you know, just
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enjoy it. You know, I don't. I don't really want
to watch too much football. I just want to clear
my brain and you know, reflect on the good games.
And the bad games and the things that I did
good and the things that I need to clean up,
and and then you know, obviously, you know, I have
a chart of the things of each game that I
think I can do better and then just put them
all on sort of a chart and then make those
my priorities as I go down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Has that typically been the way you've approached by weeks
in the past, or is it sort of varied based
on the situation of the season and the coaching staff
you have?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well in the past, maybe like my first couple of years,
I think I was depressed as Broncos Country didn't like
me too much, which you know, I'll be the first
one in their dad. I didn't like myself either, So
I would go home s where I'd go home back
to Utah, and you know, follow you have to rake
your lawn so that the dead graft can get up,
and so I'd rake my parents lawn and take all
my anger out on the lawn and then clean up
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that and get back. So I guess it's definitely has
changed over the years. You know, I think I'm just
more matured and no like what I did good and
what I haven't done good and so well, and then
you know, just let my teammates get their rest they need,
and talk with a little bit of them, and then
just sort of focus on myself and my mentalness and
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my clarity that I need just to get ready to
rock and roll this final stretch. But that's what I
used to do. So it definitely has changed and been
a sort of a revolving door over the years. But
I think now the last couple of years where I
feel like I'm settled and confident. It's been the same
bye week every year after that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You know, you look at that last game against the Chiefs,
and I thought the first drive was sort of a
tone setter. I know, you guys had to settle for three,
but you come out of the first play they run.
I think it was a safety, like a safety fire
to the backside sack, second down and sixteen. But you
on that drive, you convert a third and eight, and
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you also convert a third down and eleven. The third
and eight was to have Brian. Third and eleven I think.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Was to court.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I just thought it's settled down. An offense that had
had the previous game struggled to find some traction your
head three nothing did you guys?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Did it feel that way to you? Or is it
just how the game sort of played out?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
NA.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
The one thing that I think people that I realized
when when Bow doesn't have a good game, the following
games unbelievable. That's just who he is. He he's a winner.
He's calm and confident. And I think, you know, the
bigger the game, I think all of us played better
if I say that up front. I think we just
take pride in that. You know, that's just you know,
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Coach Street teaches about you know the moment of truth
and you know that blocked. You know, obviously we watched
that film of the last played the game when it
was Bengals versus Rams and Aaron Donald gave up that
sack and over that, over that left guard, and you
know he talks about you know, that's what he prizes
us as you know, making sure in the biggest games
and the biggest moments, what are what are thinking? What
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are we doing? What's our brain doing? Like go back
to the basicness, And you know, I think we pride
our stuff like that up front, and so you know,
the bigger the moment is I think We're just more
confident and ready to rock and roll and make sure
that we convert those downs and give both the time
that he needs. And you know that's both feels comfortable
and our receivers are making big time catches. And I
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felt like, you know, I wish we would have scored
more points. Obviously, you know, we shut ourselves in the
foot a couple of times, but when we needed to
score coming out of the second half and going down
there and you know, you're a little punching that in
into the end zone was a different game changing to us.
So picking up those third downs early, I felt like
it was a big momentum shit for us. And I
felt like we did a really good job all day
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on third down paraboles.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Joining us here, take me into that last drive. You guys,
get the ball with about three minutes remaining in the game,
and you've played against the Kansas City Chiefs enough time
played against Patrick Mahomes on the opposite side, and know
that if you know the ball goes back to him,
bad things tend to happen to the opponents. So understanding
the moment there with three minutes left, knowing you really
wanted to work the clock. You guys had to get
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into field goal range. What was the mindset for the
team at that time?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I think we had what we had a one down,
gave the ball back, our defense stopped and got the
ball back, and that was the drive that we went
down and scored and kicked the game winning field goal. So,
you know, I think I brought the old line together
and I said this is what this is what makes
this who we are. And I gave them all this
bump and I said, this is this is the drive,
this is who we are, this is you know, this
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is where we become the best a line on football.
And we all looked at each other and that's what
we practice. And we practiced what we preach and those
are the different situations that we put in and what
coach has p puts us in different situations and reprive
ourselves off. In a two minute situation, I feel like
we're the best old line unit out there. Are making
sure that we're blocking for bow and getting the ball
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into our playmakers to win. I mean, I feel like
our two minute conversion rate, you know, you did we
kick a Fiel goal. We score this year has been
on point and we all had faith. We all knew
we were going to go down there and neither score
kick a game winning field goal. We knew the situation
and we executed it, and the feeling going to be
even more better than you know, kicking that game winning
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field goal and knocking off a you know, a big
time divisional opponent that's dominated this this division for so
many years. And you know, if you've noticed the last
couple of years, I feel like we've been in all
those games. You know, they blocked the field goal to
win it, and then we we spacked them a good
one when they said they started weren't playing, and then
last year it was the same thing. In the year
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before that was the same thing. So it was just
a moment of time until we got our mojo and
I felt like our owners and our you know, general
manager and coaches built a great team to be able
to perform the way that we performed on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So we've been I think, as the fan base and
people covering the team as long as we have, we've
sort of talked about not trying to be hyperbolic, but saying,
this is one of the biggest games that the team
has had as far as the standings as far is
the implications, uh in quite some time. You guys, you
have not had the benefit so far of playing a
home playoff game, But I got to imagine from everybody
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else that has been there, that has just covered this
team in the playoffs, they said it felt close to that.
What was the vibe, what was the energy like in
that building on.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
The game, it was it was a rocket environment. And
you know, I think our fans just give us that
juice to go down and score and you know, either
it's a bad call and the whole stadium erupts and
let's you know, let the rest know, or you know,
when we score a touchdown and that whole South end
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zone just lights up like the fourth of July. And
it's just it's just a cool time to be a
Denver Bronco. Really is. I feel like, you know, we
are becoming who, you know, what I thought we would
always become the last you know, eight years, I mean
I knew I felt it. It was just a moment
in time, you know, where we were going to click
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and we're going to start winning these close games. And
you know, any championship team or any team that's won
a championship, even you know Super Bowl fifty team. You know,
there was a lot of games where you know they
they won by you know, one possession or you know
one you know, twelve points or you know, a game
winning field goal, and so like the good teams just
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find a way. And then you know when the Chiefs
were on their role, you know last year where they
won eleven straight one possession games, and so that's that's
just the thing is like when you get that it's
of winning and you get that confidence level when you
have a locker room that just believes in each other,
those are the type of games that you win, and
those are the moments and situations that you want to
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be in. And having our fan base believe in us
and love us and show up and having the largest
sellout crowd and all of sports is who we are.
And I know they've been so patient over the years
of us losing those type of close games and us
not finishing, and now they're getting the opportunity to watch
with we can really do is and it's a special
time for them and I can be more happy for
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our fan base and happy for this organization too.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, keep playing like you are and you guys are
gonna give another chance to have that feeling in the
playoffs coming up here hosting a playoff game. Garrett. We
appreciate you. Enjoy the rest of your bye week, my friend.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Hey, I gotta have Dave. Who are you playing this week?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
We play Fairview?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, and that'll be a good game.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
I know you guys. You guys play Valor. That's another
good game. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely good game. It's this time
of the year.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You know. We lost another player to a incident, so
our our kicker and punter and corner guys. So oh no,
so so we got a quarterback back, so that would
be good.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It'll be a good game, yeah them.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Hopefully we see you guys in the semis. That would
be fun.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Well, I don't know if of you so much fun
for us, But you know what if we do, we
do you rest up?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And what can we not talk a little to each other?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
No, no, listen, you know when I see you, because
you're you're constantly chattering. You're like a magpie, big white magpie,
and I will I will chatter back to you.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Know you've heard, you've heard.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Hey, listen, you know you have to you have to
have a little swag there, Dave. You know what I mean,
you can't be coaching that long. You got you have
the player in you when you coach, which that's why
I love.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I got inner swag, bro, I got, I got.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'll see you appreciate, enjoy the rest of your you
know what.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I know, you're supposed to be objective and all that.
I just really like him. I think he is just
a good hearted dude.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Uh, not every single guy in the NFL, you know,
you can say that about but I think, I mean,
this guy's he's and he's turned he's turned into a
really good player by every metric. I mean, you look
at analytics a lot more than I do in the
NFL stuff, But I mean he's like right up there
with the top left tackles in football.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That he is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
He is.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And that was a great story. I mean, you asked
him about what his bye week was, and then I
follow it up like has it always been that way?
And he said, well, now what I first started, Yeah,
because everybody was dooing me, He'd go.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Home to his parents parents house, and uh wrote it
till the league and whatever whatever. He was saying, all
the reasons his parents have have zero escaped over the
last few years.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, I don't know if I want that, dude. Yeah,
take it apart by laun.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, you because I'm out there once a week, and
so I see, I see those guys, and you lose
perspective calling games. Even though I played in the league,
it was a long time ago, and during the game,
obviously I'm up in the booth, I'm not down on
the field. You lose perspective, but I regain it every week.
On how big these dudes are.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I mean, and I know I played in the league,
but my lord, these are just very big young humans.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, and especially the O line D line guys.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You that right.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I went down there. I was always and we even
obviously covering the NFL for a long time. But anytime
I'm covering, say the Nuggets or something, and seeing how
tall those guys are, I mean, that's because from let
me just watch it on TV, they're all about the
same size. But then you get there in person, You're like, oh,
my goodness, I've.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Told you that story.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I was doing the Nuggets TV package back with al
Albert and so we traveled to Orlando and I'm trying
to think of what year this was. I don't know,
but Shack was playing for Orlando. Might have been Shack's
rookie season. So we're doing our stand up from the
court as the two teams are warming up, and so
I'm from me to you, maybe closer to Shaquille O'Neal.
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And now that was before he sort of gained muscle mass,
but even then I was just like astounded.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
How big and lean he looked. But how just huge
that dude was. I haven't had a chance. I mean,
we haven't had a chance necessarily, I think you know.
I mean Wimby has been here a couple of times
seeing him, but not in person.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah have you seen him life? No?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Not yet No. I mean that that's one that I
just were like, are you from this planets?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Fat?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Does he have what ses? I will bet I do
not know. Eight big hands. I will bet it's eight eighteen. Yeah,
I wear Fourteen's Ryan just chatting to the chadding to
your insinuation. I haven't an I will bet that Wimby
wears at least an eighteen or nineteen. The over, the
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over twenty, the over twenty and a half. Wow, wow,
twenty and a half.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Ay for those of you that are thinking about buying
shoes that are twenty in a half, First of all,
you're limited in terms of your selection. Second of all,
what do you think those shoes cost? I wear eleven's
They can.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Charge what you can almost put two of your feet,
almost almost two of my feet. The concept of that,
just like hell, Helen is your win.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Miyama, mind if I put both my feet in your shoe?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Okay, I tell you about advanced analytics. Yeah. By the way,
it's being of advanced analytics very quickly, uh subside out there.
I don't want to call it specifically, but we'll call
this just puts the whole advanced analytics thing to shame
because they twisted and turned themselves based on the performances
of the Broncos and the Chiefs and gave the Chiefs
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the win. I'm not killing they said, by the advanced metrics,
the Chiefs actually should have won that game.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I yeah, I'm not smart enough to figure out exactly
what that means.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
They were putting together there, they were putting together their
power rankings, and they actually bumped the Chiefs up to
the number two, and they left the Broncos at eleven
in their power rankings, and they and then somebody was like,
what is this deal? And he said, well, will you
go back over again into the Vans analytics. You actually
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see that the Chiefs made more plays than the Broncos did,
and by the analytics, the Chiefs should have won that game.
And so this like this, Hey, congratulations Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
There you go. I listened.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I thought Kansas City played hard, and I thought, honestly,
I thought the Chiefs played pretty well. If I'm a
Chiefs fan, that would be the thing that I would
be concerned about the most. We were completely healthy and
had everything to play for and actually played pretty well
and didn't wind right. The defense played and that's a
good defense Kansas City has.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I would probably disagree that they made more plays than
the Broncos. They made the one long play, the Jaquan
McMillan was in pretty good position. Other than that, you know,
we had two pi's that picked up considerable chunks of.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yardage eighty six yards combined.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean, how many what other plays do you
remember Kansas City making?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
There were big, big plays.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't and and honestly, I mean, obviously the twenty
one yard touchdown traps Kelsey. It's a big play right
there is the third down, the Bronx has brought the
house and and if John ay Barron would have had
to pick six in there, I mean, which again by everybody,
and I'm even Chiefs fans have acknowledged that that was
a ticky tack. Yeah, terrible call. Everybody's acknowledged that should
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have been a pick six there. I don't know how
you make that argument.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Here's what I think with Kansas City. They've got a
game coming up Sunday against Indy at home, big game.
They've they've got to find a way to win the game.
If they find a way to win that game, they're
going to run the table until Christmas and the Christmas
Night game at Arrowhead between the Chiefs and the Broncos.
I think if Casey wins this Sunday, the Christmas Night
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game in Kansas City will determine whether the Chiefs make
the playoffs or not.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
It's a remarkable spot to be. I mean, first of all,
we talked about even how unfamiliar it was that the
Chiefs were chasing the Broncos this late in the season
in the standings, But to put themselves in that situation
where meanwhile, the Broncos at that point you probably want
that game. Maybe you're still eyeing the one seed.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They were desperate this last Sunday. That's that's kind of
a different level desperation. But even then, like desperate doesn't
necessarily equal win.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
No, that's what I mean. I mean, that's what I
think Broncos fans can feel good about. I mean, you
got the absolute best that Kansas City had to offer.
They were healthy, yep, they had two weeks off. Andy
Reid was twenty two and four coming off by weeks,
and they knew that, hey, we got to come out
of here for the win with a win. If we
come out of here with a win, we're still going
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to win AFC West and.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
All of that. And they played pretty well, but not
well enough.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
So I think it bodes well for the Broncos continuing
this season and also looking toward next year and the
year after. I mean, the Broncos core of young players
pretty impressive. What they've built on both sides of the ball,
no doubt about it, all right.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
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Speaker 1 (19:32):
Nice deal.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Way to go. All right, we'll be right back on Kawa.
We're gonna have a big show for you today. We have,
of course, Shelby Harris joining us at four thirty. We've
got Rod Smith and Studio at five. I'm sure they're
going to be fired up about all things in the NFL.
I do want to ask you about the Nuggets last night.
It's kind of a.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Actually watched it. Yeah, yeah, you have fifteen.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Or fifteen point favorites. I don't know, man, I hesitate
to get really bogged down in a one off game.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I mean, I know you tend to.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You tend to get bogged down from time to time.
I do a dissipated we call it, but in a
different sort of way.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But you've been listen. I've I've been learning from you.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I mean not musin X.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
For cold.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What what's that? What's that thing? You stick up your bobo?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Are you talking about it?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I know, I know that's you know that there's something
that your I mean, what is that grant?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Are you talking home? The thing that?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
No, net pot you're talking about? Like just turnside your sinances?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
God?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
No, something you stick up your bobo if you're constipated.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, how's that rest?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Not your sinuses? I don't know, Good Lord, what kind
of house do you live in? Good God?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
No, like a suppott like a oh uh, anyway, that's pository.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, listen, that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Anyways, I've been listen. We've been doing the show for
a while now, over three years, and I know historically
on losses like this, I would kind of worry. Yeah,
I wasn't worried after this one.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, they don't play this weekend.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I know I'm saying. I'm saying I saw good things
from Cam Johnson.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You're talking about the Nuggets, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
it's there's so many games.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
There's so many games, and I think.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
You know, at Chicago had lost five in a row,
Denver was on a win streak.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Chicago got back a couple of players last night.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And and Giddy's You know, when I when I saw
Josh Giddy and Oklahoma City, I wasn't convinced totally that
he would be that guy in the NBA. Got dealt obviously,
but his game is improved. I mean, he's he's big,
he can he can handle the ball, He's got a
good mid range game. He can get to the basket anyway.
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And it just came down the Nuggets sort of clawed
back in it. They were down ten with like five
to go, and all of a sudden they're up. They
just couldn't get a key shot to go down at
the end. There were three or four opportunities that they
had shots that I think if any one of those
three or four go in, the Nuggets are going to win.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And none of them went in.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
That's why I'm not worried, because I think more often
on like you play that game ten times, I think
the Nuggets probably win that one nine times. Yeah, I
do too, And so we know whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm not trying to cast dis versions on the seven
and six Chicago Bulls. I just I'm not taking them
to serup insides. They're in a different conference anyways. But
for the Nuggets, who are now to gleisn Gleisren. Oh,
well that I was. I wasn't even close.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, check that out next time you go to.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Okay, I will Walgreens next time I get too worried
worked up on things.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
It just tends to calm me down and sort of
get rid of any anxiety you might have.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Hey, honey, the Nuggets just lost. I'm heading to Walgreens
to get some glis.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Right there you go, Little Geiser and.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Tab should be like Dave talked you into that, huh.
I'm like, yeah, he recommended it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm here to help.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So no, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'm not worried about it. What I liked seeing, like
I mentioned Cam Johnson, who's kind of had a little
bit of a slow start, I wasn't terribly worried. But
what I am for moments because there is a butt
at the end of this thing. The bench was pretty
gross last night, but nine points total for the Nuggets,
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and I think it was around sixteen, sorry, sixty six
points of the bench of the Bulls. The Bulls bench
vastly outplayed the Nuggets bench, and this is supposed to
be a very deep team.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So I'm gonna take.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
One little thing that I'm gonna say this has gotta
be better. I'm gonna say the bench play.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I gotta be honest about it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
At a coaches meeting, and I didn't get home to
see the entire game, but I did see the last quarter.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
The NBA is such a long season that I just
think they were gonna even with good teams. And I
think the Nuggets are a really good team this year.
But I think there will be a handful, maybe two
handfuls of games that for whatever reason, you just you
just don't have it, whether you're tired or whether you
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know you look at the team and say, oh man,
you know there were fifteen point favored in this game.
I mean, there's just even the really, really good teams.
So I think when you look at this bench, I
think I think obviously losing Christian Brown Herds because now
one of those guys that was on the bench has
to come off the bench and start.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I mean it it sort of reshapes your rotation.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
But I honestly last night and I was standing, I
feel pretty good about this bench, about the people they
bring in, Oh yeah, that I think it's going to
be when the game's really you know, in the spring,
I mean even early part of next year, and then
in February March and everybody's jocking for the position in
the West. I think the Nuggets bench is gonna be
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able to hold up there their end of the deal.
And I think the Nuggets, you know, whether they can
catch O case or whatever, but if you if you're
in one of the top two seeds.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I'm goodson with you. And by and large, they're they're
probably gonna win sixty games, yeah, I think so. And
they're gonna be dominant at home. I mean this was
their first home loss. They're six and one, and you
know what, if you represent a home and you win
a lot of those games, which I do believe the
Nuggets are gonna have an opportunity to do that. You're
you're just gonna put yourself in position. I hate to
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say this as in like the regular season doesn't matter,
because it definitely does, but you kind of get to
a point and I remember this with the Golden State
Warriors for so many years, right there was this like, I, well,
whatever they do in the regular season, they're gonna be
in the postseason. Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Clay Top, They're
all gonna be there. They're all gonna be making a run.
They're gonna win another champion, you know. So that's kind
of where I feel with the Nuggets. It's like this
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all matters because the West is so dense, especially at
the top. Ye matters. You don't want to lose games,
you don't want to lose positioning. But simultaneously, it's okay,
are you playing your best basketball there at the end,
because this is this is a playoff team. This is
a team that hopefully is healthy enough to make a
real run. And I believe that they are that kind
of team.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I think the formula for the Nuggets, you get forty
one games at home, forty one games in the road.
This team, you know, maybe they lose six home games.
That's thirty five wins.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
All right.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
You basically can play five hundred basketball yeah, away from home,
and you're gonna get to sixty. I mean you're gonna
be I mean you're gonna be close to close to sixty.
So yeah, I think they're gonna be fine. I think,
you know, OKAC looks legitimate.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
They've got very good players.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
But I'll tell you what then, I guess we're so
compromised last year injury wise and lack of depth wise,
and they took that team to seven games. So if
I'm Okac, not that we would fear anybody, but the
one team that I would be like, Oh man, I
hope somebody else knocks them off before we have to
deal with them, because the Nuggets are better, at least
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on paper, and in the games that I've seen with
Hardaway and some of these guys, you know that they've
picked up. I think the Nuggets are a real problem
in a seven game series for Okac.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know another thing that you might have convinced me
of that I think I'm finally besides Cletcher Okay, that
I'm finally feeling a little bit better about is Minnesota.
I'm not as screwed of Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Now scared a art that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Was a hell of a win over the weekend over Minnesota.
They're down by ten, they're down two starters, they're down
by I mean they won that game and Anthony Edwards
was back. Yeah, they had randall they had, they had
their full compliment and the Nuggets went into Minnesota and
won that game. That one right there was a big
one for me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
The Nuggets they have to play the Timbu Wolves.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I mean, that's a that's a pretty spot on impersonation. Really,
you're welcome. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I'm glad I've helped you become less uh, timid. Don't
be timid when it comes to Minnesota. Bring Minnesota's ass
up in here.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
That's how. That's what I want you to say.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
The next time you're lined up at Starbucks and you're
ordering a pumpkin spice lot, pumpkin spice latte, whatever the
hell it is you order, just say to yourself, give
me a vente pumpkin spice latte and let me tell
you this, bring Minnesota's ass.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Right up in here in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
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You know, we're talking with Garrett Bulls earlier and we
played the clip where he was just saying, what's the
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country going to say now about bo Nicks? And we
didn't get to this yesterday because it was you know,
a lot of reaction to the game, and sometimes you
have certain things that you get to react to after
the fact. But we'd referenced Adam Troutman defending bo Nixon.
This is kind of went viral. Shout out to our
guy Andrew Mason, who does a really good job covering
the Broncos, has for like two decades, and he put
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this clip out of Adam Troutman defending bo Nicks.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
First off, if you're talked a bit about bow online,
you're a coward, absolute coward. But I just wanted to
say that and guard him a little bit, but I
mean it says a lot. You know, he he blanks
it out and we talked about it this week.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know, we don't care what.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Other people think.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
We know what we have in the building and we
know what he's made of, and we don't really care
what people have to say. So Dragon Slayer's sixty nine
with a seven eleven slurpy in his mom's basement. I
don't give it yes to say right, and Bow doesn't either, So.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, here we go? Here, where do we go? Internet boy?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
By the way, seven eleven chimed in Grant. I don't
know if you saw that seven eleven chiming in talking
about somebody like, hey, you know, drinking a slurpee and
living in their basement. I'm gonna see if I can
find the tweet. But it was really really funny how
they jumped in. But yeah, listen, I mean, I want
you guys want everybody wants the team to rally around
the quarterback. They want to rally around each other. And
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there's a reason why they won eight games straight and
set atop the AFC at nine to two. It's because
they believe in bow Knicks. And if they didn't believe
in bow Nicks. I think you'd see some of those
cracks showing whatever the media or guy sitting in his
basement drinking his slurpee or otherwise saying, does not have
any bearing whatsoever on what the team is doing. And
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that's actually a really good thing. As it says here
he deleted social media, bo did, and I'm sure some
people still tell him things, so on and so forth.
Obviously his teammates are seeing those things. Last week, Garrett Bowles, unprompted,
brought up some of the stuff that's been said out
there about Bonix. But in the end, what matters is
how they can either insulate from it or really thrive
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from it, right use it as motivation. And I'm not
saying that I think bon Nix necessarily does that, but
even if he does, it's it doesn't matter. What matters
is what he does out there on the field. And
even Garrett earlier in the interview this hour, he said
bo Nick struggled in the game against the Raiders, which
everybody saw. There's nobody that can at this point deny it.
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You found a way to win in spite of it,
but you still saw the struggle of Bonix which led
to a lot of questions and wonder about how he'd
perform against a better team in a higher leverage situation.
But once again, this team shows you time and time
again they rise to that occasion. They're going to play
to their opponents. And maybe that's maddening at times, but
they are going to play to their opponent. And in
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this case, I mean, they're really a blocked field goal
away from Bonicks being undefeated versus Patrick Mahomes in the
two times he's seen them. Now it's only two times
versus the unbelievable record that Patrick Mahomes has against this team.
But that's all Bonix can do, and he'd be undefeated
against the Chiefs in all three again without that flukey
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blocked field goal attempt from thirty five yards out still happen.
It's still what it is. And there's also the argument,
of course, that they utilize that loss as a way
to springboard them for the remainder of the season last
year and go on to win ten games and make
the postseason for the first time. And I'd say that
loss probably still, according to even Sean Payton's statements, fueled
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a bit of their approach in this game on Sunday.
So what we say, sometimes there are good losses. This
might be an example of that. We get some more sound.
A couple up on the other side. Sean Payton was
on one in the postgame press conference. We'll get to
that next
Well, what's the country're going to say? Now?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
They can't say anything, so our record speaks for itself.
The guys in this room know who we are, and
the only people that we care about is the people
in this building, through our owners, through our coaches, to
the front office, to the players. Proud of this team,
a bunch of fighters, and if nobody else believes in us,
we're the only ones that care that believes in us,
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So everyone else can think what they want.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Didn't even get a Dragon Slayer sixty nine reference in there, Garrett,
And they care about the play by play guy very good,
very much. Yeah, well, let me I imagine our next guest.
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my friends, good stuff man the postgame locker room?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Now are you I'm doing good?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
How are you guys doing good? Every time you bring
me on? Every week week? I hear Dave Logan's voice,
and then Broncos are world champions.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's the best. You know what you guys are.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Hey, stranger things have happened, my friend, Stranger things have happened.
I might be able to utter that phrase again. Hey,
let me ask you what is I mean. You've been
in this league by NFL standards a long time, You've
seen upstowns whatever. Now you you guys are nine to
two and you have a bye week.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So real talk.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
What is the left tackle, the starting left tackle the
Broncos do during a bye week? What that looks like
for you in terms of schedule.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That's a good question. I relaxed some Monday. I relax today.
I go to California. I just want to get my
mind off of football, to be honest, for a couple
of days. You know, make sure I'm doing a couple
of workouts this week. I probably have one or between
one and three workouts this week when I go to
California and just get away and take my family with
me and to be around them and you know, just
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enjoy it. You know, I don't. I don't really want
to watch too much football. I just want to clear
my brain and you know, reflect on the good games.
And the bad games and the things that I did
good and the things that I need to clean up,
and and then you know, obviously, you know, I have
a chart of the things of each game that I
think I can do better and then just put them
all on sort of a chart and then make those
my priorities as I go down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Has that typically been the way you've approached by weeks
in the past, or is it sort of varied based
on the situation of the season and the coaching staff
you have?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well in the past, maybe like my first couple of years,
I think I was depressed as Broncos Country didn't like
me too much, which you know, I'll be the first
one in their dad. I didn't like myself either, So
I would go home s where I'd go home back
to Utah, and you know, follow you have to rake
your lawn so that the dead graft can get up,
and so I'd rake my parents lawn and take all
my anger out on the lawn and then clean up
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that and get back. So I guess it's definitely has
changed over the years. You know, I think I'm just
more matured and no like what I did good and
what I haven't done good and so well, and then
you know, just let my teammates get their rest they need,
and talk with a little bit of them, and then
just sort of focus on myself and my mentalness and
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my clarity that I need just to get ready to
rock and roll this final stretch. But that's what I
used to do. So it definitely has changed and been
a sort of a revolving door over the years. But
I think now the last couple of years where I
feel like I'm settled and confident. It's been the same
bye week every year after that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You know, you look at that last game against the Chiefs,
and I thought the first drive was sort of a
tone setter. I know, you guys had to settle for three,
but you come out of the first play they run.
I think it was a safety, like a safety fire
to the backside sack, second down and sixteen. But you
on that drive, you convert a third and eight, and
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you also convert a third down and eleven. The third
and eight was to have Brian. Third and eleven I think.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Was to court.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I just thought it's settled down. An offense that had
had the previous game struggled to find some traction your
head three nothing did you guys?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Did it feel that way to you? Or is it
just how the game sort of played out?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
NA.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
The one thing that I think people that I realized
when when Bow doesn't have a good game, the following
games unbelievable. That's just who he is. He he's a winner.
He's calm and confident. And I think, you know, the
bigger the game, I think all of us played better
if I say that up front. I think we just
take pride in that. You know, that's just you know,
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Coach Street teaches about you know the moment of truth
and you know that blocked. You know, obviously we watched
that film of the last played the game when it
was Bengals versus Rams and Aaron Donald gave up that
sack and over that, over that left guard, and you
know he talks about you know, that's what he prizes
us as you know, making sure in the biggest games
and the biggest moments, what are what are thinking? What
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are we doing? What's our brain doing? Like go back
to the basicness, And you know, I think we pride
our stuff like that up front, and so you know,
the bigger the moment is I think We're just more
confident and ready to rock and roll and make sure
that we convert those downs and give both the time
that he needs. And you know that's both feels comfortable
and our receivers are making big time catches. And I
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felt like, you know, I wish we would have scored
more points. Obviously, you know, we shut ourselves in the
foot a couple of times, but when we needed to
score coming out of the second half and going down
there and you know, you're a little punching that in
into the end zone was a different game changing to us.
So picking up those third downs early, I felt like
it was a big momentum shit for us. And I
felt like we did a really good job all day
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on third down paraboles.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Joining us here, take me into that last drive. You guys,
get the ball with about three minutes remaining in the game,
and you've played against the Kansas City Chiefs enough time
played against Patrick Mahomes on the opposite side, and know
that if you know the ball goes back to him,
bad things tend to happen to the opponents. So understanding
the moment there with three minutes left, knowing you really
wanted to work the clock. You guys had to get
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into field goal range. What was the mindset for the
team at that time?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I think we had what we had a one down,
gave the ball back, our defense stopped and got the
ball back, and that was the drive that we went
down and scored and kicked the game winning field goal. So,
you know, I think I brought the old line together
and I said this is what this is what makes
this who we are. And I gave them all this
bump and I said, this is this is the drive,
this is who we are, this is you know, this
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is where we become the best a line on football.
And we all looked at each other and that's what
we practice. And we practiced what we preach and those
are the different situations that we put in and what
coach has p puts us in different situations and reprive
ourselves off. In a two minute situation, I feel like
we're the best old line unit out there. Are making
sure that we're blocking for bow and getting the ball
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into our playmakers to win. I mean, I feel like
our two minute conversion rate, you know, you did we
kick a Fiel goal. We score this year has been
on point and we all had faith. We all knew
we were going to go down there and neither score
kick a game winning field goal. We knew the situation
and we executed it, and the feeling going to be
even more better than you know, kicking that game winning
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field goal and knocking off a you know, a big
time divisional opponent that's dominated this this division for so
many years. And you know, if you've noticed the last
couple of years, I feel like we've been in all
those games. You know, they blocked the field goal to
win it, and then we we spacked them a good
one when they said they started weren't playing, and then
last year it was the same thing. In the year
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before that was the same thing. So it was just
a moment of time until we got our mojo and
I felt like our owners and our you know, general
manager and coaches built a great team to be able
to perform the way that we performed on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So we've been I think, as the fan base and
people covering the team as long as we have, we've
sort of talked about not trying to be hyperbolic, but saying,
this is one of the biggest games that the team
has had as far as the standings as far is
the implications, uh in quite some time. You guys, you
have not had the benefit so far of playing a
home playoff game, But I got to imagine from everybody
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else that has been there, that has just covered this
team in the playoffs, they said it felt close to that.
What was the vibe, what was the energy like in
that building on.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
The game, it was it was a rocket environment. And
you know, I think our fans just give us that
juice to go down and score and you know, either
it's a bad call and the whole stadium erupts and
let's you know, let the rest know, or you know,
when we score a touchdown and that whole South end
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zone just lights up like the fourth of July. And
it's just it's just a cool time to be a
Denver Bronco. Really is. I feel like, you know, we
are becoming who, you know, what I thought we would
always become the last you know, eight years, I mean
I knew I felt it. It was just a moment
in time, you know, where we were going to click
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and we're going to start winning these close games. And
you know, any championship team or any team that's won
a championship, even you know Super Bowl fifty team. You know,
there was a lot of games where you know they
they won by you know, one possession or you know
one you know, twelve points or you know, a game
winning field goal, and so like the good teams just
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find a way. And then you know when the Chiefs
were on their role, you know last year where they
won eleven straight one possession games, and so that's that's
just the thing is like when you get that it's
of winning and you get that confidence level when you
have a locker room that just believes in each other,
those are the type of games that you win, and
those are the moments and situations that you want to
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be in. And having our fan base believe in us
and love us and show up and having the largest
sellout crowd and all of sports is who we are.
And I know they've been so patient over the years
of us losing those type of close games and us
not finishing, and now they're getting the opportunity to watch
with we can really do is and it's a special
time for them and I can be more happy for
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our fan base and happy for this organization too.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, keep playing like you are and you guys are
gonna give another chance to have that feeling in the
playoffs coming up here hosting a playoff game. Garrett. We
appreciate you. Enjoy the rest of your bye week, my friend.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Hey, I gotta have Dave. Who are you playing this week?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
We play Fairview?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, and that'll be a good game.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
I know you guys. You guys play Valor. That's another
good game. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely good game. It's this time
of the year.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You know. We lost another player to a incident, so
our our kicker and punter and corner guys. So oh no,
so so we got a quarterback back, so that would
be good.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It'll be a good game, yeah them.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Hopefully we see you guys in the semis. That would
be fun.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Well, I don't know if of you so much fun
for us, But you know what if we do, we
do you rest up?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And what can we not talk a little to each other?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
No, no, listen, you know when I see you, because
you're you're constantly chattering. You're like a magpie, big white magpie,
and I will I will chatter back to you.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Know you've heard, you've heard.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Hey, listen, you know you have to you have to
have a little swag there, Dave. You know what I mean,
you can't be coaching that long. You got you have
the player in you when you coach, which that's why
I love.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I got inner swag, bro, I got, I got.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I'll see you appreciate, enjoy the rest of your you
know what.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
I know, you're supposed to be objective and all that.
I just really like him. I think he is just
a good hearted dude.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Uh, not every single guy in the NFL, you know,
you can say that about but I think, I mean,
this guy's he's and he's turned he's turned into a
really good player by every metric. I mean, you look
at analytics a lot more than I do in the
NFL stuff, But I mean he's like right up there
with the top left tackles in football.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That he is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
He is.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And that was a great story. I mean, you asked
him about what his bye week was, and then I
follow it up like has it always been that way?
And he said, well, now what I first started, Yeah,
because everybody was dooing me, He'd go.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Home to his parents parents house, and uh wrote it
till the league and whatever whatever. He was saying, all
the reasons his parents have have zero escaped over the
last few years.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, I don't know if I want that, dude. Yeah,
take it apart by laun.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Yeah, you because I'm out there once a week, and
so I see, I see those guys, and you lose
perspective calling games. Even though I played in the league,
it was a long time ago, and during the game,
obviously I'm up in the booth, I'm not down on
the field. You lose perspective, but I regain it every week.
On how big these dudes are.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I mean, and I know I played in the league,
but my lord, these are just very big young humans.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, and especially the O line D line guys.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
You that right.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I went down there. I was always and we even
obviously covering the NFL for a long time. But anytime
I'm covering, say the Nuggets or something, and seeing how
tall those guys are, I mean, that's because from let
me just watch it on TV, they're all about the
same size. But then you get there in person, You're like, oh,
my goodness, I've.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Told you that story.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I was doing the Nuggets TV package back with al
Albert and so we traveled to Orlando and I'm trying
to think of what year this was. I don't know,
but Shack was playing for Orlando. Might have been Shack's
rookie season. So we're doing our stand up from the
court as the two teams are warming up, and so
I'm from me to you, maybe closer to Shaquille O'Neal.
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And now that was before he sort of gained muscle mass,
but even then I was just like astounded.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
How big and lean he looked. But how just huge
that dude was. I haven't had a chance. I mean,
we haven't had a chance necessarily, I think you know.
I mean Wimby has been here a couple of times
seeing him, but not in person.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah have you seen him life? No?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Not yet No. I mean that that's one that I
just were like, are you from this planets?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Fat?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Does he have what ses? I will bet I do
not know. Eight big hands. I will bet it's eight eighteen. Yeah,
I wear Fourteen's Ryan just chatting to the chadding to
your insinuation. I haven't an I will bet that Wimby
wears at least an eighteen or nineteen. The over, the
(14:44):
over twenty, the over twenty and a half. Wow, wow,
twenty and a half.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Ay for those of you that are thinking about buying
shoes that are twenty in a half, First of all,
you're limited in terms of your selection. Second of all,
what do you think those shoes cost? I wear eleven's
They can.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Charge what you can almost put two of your feet,
almost almost two of my feet. The concept of that,
just like hell, Helen is your win.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Miyama, mind if I put both my feet in your shoe?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Okay, I tell you about advanced analytics. Yeah. By the way,
it's being of advanced analytics very quickly, uh subside out there.
I don't want to call it specifically, but we'll call
this just puts the whole advanced analytics thing to shame
because they twisted and turned themselves based on the performances
of the Broncos and the Chiefs and gave the Chiefs
(15:39):
the win. I'm not killing they said, by the advanced metrics,
the Chiefs actually should have won that game.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I yeah, I'm not smart enough to figure out exactly
what that means.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
They were putting together there, they were putting together their
power rankings, and they actually bumped the Chiefs up to
the number two, and they left the Broncos at eleven
in their power rankings, and they and then somebody was like,
what is this deal? And he said, well, will you
go back over again into the Vans analytics. You actually
(16:12):
see that the Chiefs made more plays than the Broncos did,
and by the analytics, the Chiefs should have won that game.
And so this like this, Hey, congratulations Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
There you go. I listened.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
I thought Kansas City played hard, and I thought, honestly,
I thought the Chiefs played pretty well. If I'm a
Chiefs fan, that would be the thing that I would
be concerned about the most. We were completely healthy and
had everything to play for and actually played pretty well
and didn't wind right. The defense played and that's a
good defense Kansas City has.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
I would probably disagree that they made more plays than
the Broncos. They made the one long play, the Jaquan
McMillan was in pretty good position. Other than that, you know,
we had two pi's that picked up considerable chunks of.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yardage eighty six yards combined.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean, how many what other plays do you
remember Kansas City making?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
There were big, big plays.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I don't and and honestly, I mean, obviously the twenty
one yard touchdown traps Kelsey. It's a big play right
there is the third down, the Bronx has brought the
house and and if John ay Barron would have had
to pick six in there, I mean, which again by everybody,
and I'm even Chiefs fans have acknowledged that that was
a ticky tack. Yeah, terrible call. Everybody's acknowledged that should
(17:31):
have been a pick six there. I don't know how
you make that argument.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Here's what I think with Kansas City. They've got a
game coming up Sunday against Indy at home, big game.
They've they've got to find a way to win the game.
If they find a way to win that game, they're
going to run the table until Christmas and the Christmas
Night game at Arrowhead between the Chiefs and the Broncos.
I think if Casey wins this Sunday, the Christmas Night
(17:57):
game in Kansas City will determine whether the Chiefs make
the playoffs or not.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
It's a remarkable spot to be. I mean, first of all,
we talked about even how unfamiliar it was that the
Chiefs were chasing the Broncos this late in the season
in the standings, But to put themselves in that situation
where meanwhile, the Broncos at that point you probably want
that game. Maybe you're still eyeing the one seed.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They were desperate this last Sunday. That's that's kind of
a different level desperation. But even then, like desperate doesn't
necessarily equal win.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
No, that's what I mean. I mean, that's what I
think Broncos fans can feel good about. I mean, you
got the absolute best that Kansas City had to offer.
They were healthy, yep, they had two weeks off. Andy
Reid was twenty two and four coming off by weeks,
and they knew that, hey, we got to come out
of here for the win with a win. If we
come out of here with a win, we're still going
(18:49):
to win AFC West and.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
All of that. And they played pretty well, but not
well enough.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
So I think it bodes well for the Broncos continuing
this season and also looking toward next year and the
year after. I mean, the Broncos core of young players
pretty impressive. What they've built on both sides of the ball,
no doubt about it, all right.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
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Speaker 1 (19:32):
Nice deal.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Way to go. All right, we'll be right back on Kawa.
We're gonna have a big show for you today. We have,
of course, Shelby Harris joining us at four thirty. We've
got Rod Smith and Studio at five. I'm sure they're
going to be fired up about all things in the NFL.
I do want to ask you about the Nuggets last night.
It's kind of a.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Actually watched it. Yeah, yeah, you have fifteen.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Or fifteen point favorites. I don't know, man, I hesitate
to get really bogged down in a one off game.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I mean, I know you tend to.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
You tend to get bogged down from time to time.
I do a dissipated we call it, but in a
different sort of way.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But you've been listen. I've I've been learning from you.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I mean not musin X.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
For cold.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
What what's that? What's that thing? You stick up your bobo?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Are you talking about it?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I know, I know that's you know that there's something
that your I mean, what is that grant?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Are you talking home? The thing that?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
No, net pot you're talking about? Like just turnside your sinances?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
God?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
No, something you stick up your bobo if you're constipated.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, how's that rest?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Not your sinuses? I don't know, Good Lord, what kind
of house do you live in? Good God?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
No, like a suppott like a oh uh, anyway, that's pository.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, listen, that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Anyways, I've been listen. We've been doing the show for
a while now, over three years, and I know historically
on losses like this, I would kind of worry. Yeah,
I wasn't worried after this one.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, they don't play this weekend.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I know I'm saying. I'm saying I saw good things
from Cam Johnson.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You're talking about the Nuggets, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
it's there's so many games.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
There's so many games, and I think.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
You know, at Chicago had lost five in a row,
Denver was on a win streak.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Chicago got back a couple of players last night.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And and Giddy's You know, when I when I saw
Josh Giddy and Oklahoma City, I wasn't convinced totally that
he would be that guy in the NBA. Got dealt obviously,
but his game is improved. I mean, he's he's big,
he can he can handle the ball, He's got a
good mid range game. He can get to the basket anyway.
(22:00):
And it just came down the Nuggets sort of clawed
back in it. They were down ten with like five
to go, and all of a sudden they're up. They
just couldn't get a key shot to go down at
the end. There were three or four opportunities that they
had shots that I think if any one of those
three or four go in, the Nuggets are going to win.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And none of them went in.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
That's why I'm not worried, because I think more often
on like you play that game ten times, I think
the Nuggets probably win that one nine times. Yeah, I
do too, And so we know whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I'm not trying to cast dis versions on the seven
and six Chicago Bulls. I just I'm not taking them
to serup insides. They're in a different conference anyways. But
for the Nuggets, who are now to gleisn Gleisren. Oh,
well that I was. I wasn't even close.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, check that out next time you go to.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Okay, I will Walgreens next time I get too worried
worked up on things.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
It just tends to calm me down and sort of
get rid of any anxiety you might have.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Hey, honey, the Nuggets just lost. I'm heading to Walgreens
to get some glis.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Right there you go, Little Geiser and.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Tab should be like Dave talked you into that, huh.
I'm like, yeah, he recommended it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
I'm here to help.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So no, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I'm not worried about it. What I liked seeing, like
I mentioned Cam Johnson, who's kind of had a little
bit of a slow start, I wasn't terribly worried. But
what I am for moments because there is a butt
at the end of this thing. The bench was pretty
gross last night, but nine points total for the Nuggets,
(23:30):
and I think it was around sixteen, sorry, sixty six
points of the bench of the Bulls. The Bulls bench
vastly outplayed the Nuggets bench, and this is supposed to
be a very deep team.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So I'm gonna take.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
One little thing that I'm gonna say this has gotta
be better. I'm gonna say the bench play.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, I gotta be honest about it.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
At a coaches meeting, and I didn't get home to
see the entire game, but I did see the last quarter.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
The NBA is such a long season that I just
think they were gonna even with good teams. And I
think the Nuggets are a really good team this year.
But I think there will be a handful, maybe two
handfuls of games that for whatever reason, you just you
just don't have it, whether you're tired or whether you
(24:16):
know you look at the team and say, oh man,
you know there were fifteen point favored in this game.
I mean, there's just even the really, really good teams.
So I think when you look at this bench, I
think I think obviously losing Christian Brown Herds because now
one of those guys that was on the bench has
to come off the bench and start.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I mean it it sort of reshapes your rotation.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
But I honestly last night and I was standing, I
feel pretty good about this bench, about the people they
bring in, Oh yeah, that I think it's going to
be when the game's really you know, in the spring,
I mean even early part of next year, and then
in February March and everybody's jocking for the position in
the West. I think the Nuggets bench is gonna be
(25:02):
able to hold up there their end of the deal.
And I think the Nuggets, you know, whether they can
catch O case or whatever, but if you if you're
in one of the top two seeds.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I'm goodson with you. And by and large, they're they're
probably gonna win sixty games, yeah, I think so. And
they're gonna be dominant at home. I mean this was
their first home loss. They're six and one, and you
know what, if you represent a home and you win
a lot of those games, which I do believe the
Nuggets are gonna have an opportunity to do that. You're
you're just gonna put yourself in position. I hate to
(25:33):
say this as in like the regular season doesn't matter,
because it definitely does, but you kind of get to
a point and I remember this with the Golden State
Warriors for so many years, right there was this like, I, well,
whatever they do in the regular season, they're gonna be
in the postseason. Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Clay Top, They're
all gonna be there. They're all gonna be making a run.
They're gonna win another champion, you know. So that's kind
of where I feel with the Nuggets. It's like this
(25:55):
all matters because the West is so dense, especially at
the top. Ye matters. You don't want to lose games,
you don't want to lose positioning. But simultaneously, it's okay,
are you playing your best basketball there at the end,
because this is this is a playoff team. This is
a team that hopefully is healthy enough to make a
real run. And I believe that they are that kind
of team.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I think the formula for the Nuggets, you get forty
one games at home, forty one games in the road.
This team, you know, maybe they lose six home games.
That's thirty five wins.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
All right.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
You basically can play five hundred basketball yeah, away from home,
and you're gonna get to sixty. I mean you're gonna
be I mean you're gonna be close to close to sixty.
So yeah, I think they're gonna be fine. I think,
you know, OKAC looks legitimate.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
They've got very good players.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
But I'll tell you what then, I guess we're so
compromised last year injury wise and lack of depth wise,
and they took that team to seven games. So if
I'm Okac, not that we would fear anybody, but the
one team that I would be like, Oh man, I
hope somebody else knocks them off before we have to
deal with them, because the Nuggets are better, at least
(27:04):
on paper, and in the games that I've seen with
Hardaway and some of these guys, you know that they've
picked up. I think the Nuggets are a real problem
in a seven game series for Okac.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know another thing that you might have convinced me
of that I think I'm finally besides Cletcher Okay, that
I'm finally feeling a little bit better about is Minnesota.
I'm not as screwed of Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Now scared a art that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Was a hell of a win over the weekend over Minnesota.
They're down by ten, they're down two starters, they're down
by I mean they won that game and Anthony Edwards
was back. Yeah, they had randall they had, they had
their full compliment and the Nuggets went into Minnesota and
won that game. That one right there was a big
one for me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
The Nuggets they have to play the Timbu Wolves.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I mean, that's a that's a pretty spot on impersonation. Really,
you're welcome. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I'm glad I've helped you become less uh, timid. Don't
be timid when it comes to Minnesota. Bring Minnesota's ass
up in here.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
That's how. That's what I want you to say.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
The next time you're lined up at Starbucks and you're
ordering a pumpkin spice lot, pumpkin spice latte, whatever the
hell it is you order, just say to yourself, give
me a vente pumpkin spice latte and let me tell
you this, bring Minnesota's ass.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Right up in here in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
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(28:53):
Rod Smith's studio at five again five six six nine
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all of the texts on that. You guys are wonderful.
You know, we're talking with Garrett Bulls earlier and we
played the clip where he was just saying, what's the
(29:14):
country going to say now about bo Nicks? And we
didn't get to this yesterday because it was you know,
a lot of reaction to the game, and sometimes you
have certain things that you get to react to after
the fact. But we'd referenced Adam Troutman defending bo Nixon.
This is kind of went viral. Shout out to our
guy Andrew Mason, who does a really good job covering
the Broncos, has for like two decades, and he put
(29:35):
this clip out of Adam Troutman defending bo Nicks.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
First off, if you're talked a bit about bow online,
you're a coward, absolute coward. But I just wanted to
say that and guard him a little bit, but I
mean it says a lot. You know, he he blanks
it out and we talked about it this week.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know, we don't care what.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Other people think.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
We know what we have in the building and we
know what he's made of, and we don't really care
what people have to say. So Dragon Slayer's sixty nine
with a seven eleven slurpy in his mom's basement. I
don't give it yes to say right, and Bow doesn't either, So.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, here we go? Here, where do we go? Internet boy?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
By the way, seven eleven chimed in Grant. I don't
know if you saw that seven eleven chiming in talking
about somebody like, hey, you know, drinking a slurpee and
living in their basement. I'm gonna see if I can
find the tweet. But it was really really funny how
they jumped in. But yeah, listen, I mean, I want
you guys want everybody wants the team to rally around
the quarterback. They want to rally around each other. And
(30:37):
there's a reason why they won eight games straight and
set atop the AFC at nine to two. It's because
they believe in bow Knicks. And if they didn't believe
in bow Nicks. I think you'd see some of those
cracks showing whatever the media or guy sitting in his
basement drinking his slurpee or otherwise saying, does not have
any bearing whatsoever on what the team is doing. And
(30:57):
that's actually a really good thing. As it says here
he deleted social media, bo did, and I'm sure some
people still tell him things, so on and so forth.
Obviously his teammates are seeing those things. Last week, Garrett Bowles, unprompted,
brought up some of the stuff that's been said out
there about Bonix. But in the end, what matters is
how they can either insulate from it or really thrive
(31:22):
from it, right use it as motivation. And I'm not
saying that I think bon Nix necessarily does that, but
even if he does, it's it doesn't matter. What matters
is what he does out there on the field. And
even Garrett earlier in the interview this hour, he said
bo Nick struggled in the game against the Raiders, which
everybody saw. There's nobody that can at this point deny it.
(31:44):
You found a way to win in spite of it,
but you still saw the struggle of Bonix which led
to a lot of questions and wonder about how he'd
perform against a better team in a higher leverage situation.
But once again, this team shows you time and time
again they rise to that occasion. They're going to play
to their opponents. And maybe that's maddening at times, but
they are going to play to their opponent. And in
(32:05):
this case, I mean, they're really a blocked field goal
away from Bonicks being undefeated versus Patrick Mahomes in the
two times he's seen them. Now it's only two times
versus the unbelievable record that Patrick Mahomes has against this team.
But that's all Bonix can do, and he'd be undefeated
against the Chiefs in all three again without that flukey
(32:26):
blocked field goal attempt from thirty five yards out still happen.
It's still what it is. And there's also the argument,
of course, that they utilize that loss as a way
to springboard them for the remainder of the season last
year and go on to win ten games and make
the postseason for the first time. And I'd say that
loss probably still, according to even Sean Payton's statements, fueled
(32:49):
a bit of their approach in this game on Sunday.
So what we say, sometimes there are good losses. This
might be an example of that. We get some more sound.
A couple up on the other side. Sean Payton was
on one in the postgame press conference. We'll get to
that next
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