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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Victory Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:01):
Let's go, man, that was a you know what, we
were just talking off the air, that was in I
would say in the last three years. That's the biggest
win we've had in three years, just based off of
the circumstances, all the changes we've been through with ownership, coaches, quarterback,
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the injuries we're dealing with at the time. It was
it was just awesome to witness and watch because those
guys deserve that. I want to take my hat off
to all of them. Everybody in that building from I
used to always say we had sim. I don't think
sim's there anymore, from the guy who picks up the
tape in the locker room to the guy who puts
the stripes on the field. As an organization, everybody did
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their job and that's what it takes to win in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
One hundred percent. Yeah, I mean, this is an organizational win.
And and the fact that they didn't blink, you know,
so you sort of say the excuses were kind of
built in. Yeah, you're without passer ten now, Jonah Ellen,
you're without Nate Adkins, You're without your your green dot right,
Alex Singleton, JK Dobbins goes on IR the day before,
arguably arguably your MVP on offense, and then your best,
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you know, defensive play of the year. I mean, all
those things were sort of baked into this. Meanwhile, the
Chief's coming off of a bye Andy Red twenty one
and four. I mean, you're hearing all of it, and
they didn't blink. And especially coming off the performance against
the Raiders, right, there's a lot of questions about what
this team was made of, and it is a ten
to seven ugly kind of It just didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It didn't feel.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Good coming off that win and the fact that they
showed up and played the way they did and honestly dominated.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know what, I was.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Looking at the stats here, just the different things, and
as I scrolled through the stats, all I see is backups.
McMillan defensive player of the game. He's a backup starting
the season. He was a backup. This young man played
lights out and only two sacks and h is that
shit a huge turn of events. Therefore, us streanad comes
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in and plays because.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Of Singleton men.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Now he led the team and tackles with ten and
that's just that's just the beginning. But these are guys
who you didn't You didn't have those guys in your
list when the season started, and that shows you the
depth and that's what.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You have to have.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Patchertan's been down. We need him back, but we got time.
These guys have stepped up three weeks straight, balled out,
do everything they need to do. Mims comes back, huge
return with Mems. But when Mims was gone, what do
we see. We see backup receivers coming in. Brian making plays.
He got a few more catches this game. Every game,
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you're gonna see this kid get a few more catches.
And I still I'm always gonna lean on my guy
court at the end of the game, when it's crunch time,
fourth quarter, when we call four minute offense, the last
one with this ball is gonna win.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They have it.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
With all these backup guys and all these potential excuses.
The guy stepped up. We got them off the field,
we got the ball back. It's a tied game, and
we went on and did what we did. And I said,
we got the ball with three minutes, about twenty seconds left.
I said, they should never touch this football again. And
you know what, they didn't, and that that was. It
was beautiful because it was somebody different. It was somebody
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it was someone that we always call him these unsung heroes.
But that proved to me that every single guy on
that roster, up and down the roster special teams, was excellent.
I mean, you could pick either side of the ball
and you can find a guy that we can really
hang out hat on and say, hey, you were the
reason because your preparedness, You went out there with a
certain swagger, and you stepped up in the biggest game
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of the of the last three years, and all those guys.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Shine one hundred percent. Yah Q Robinson had a sack
in that as a rookie. Johnny Burr should have had
to pick six in the game, another guy that that
wasn't starting.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So I mean, I'm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think that you know that that is what you
sort of build it out, and I you know, we
say next man up sometimes, and I understand the mindset
that that feels like cliche because nobody is as talent
as passer ten. And I'm not trying to say anything
negative about anybody else. I'm just saying that guy is
one of the elites at his position and then you
cannot replicate what he does. But you realize they've given
up in the three games that he's been out one
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passing touchdown and honestly, that was a broken tackle with
Travis Kelsey. That's the only passing touchdown in three straight
games that secondary gave up.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
You know what. And that's safeties too.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
The safeties not just a corner, but our safeties are
playing excellent football.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
They fir in there on the run and they are
popping everything that moves. I love watching them come down
and orchestrate the back end because see, you have to
have for these guys are young on the outside. All
those guys on the outside of young. It's for the corners.
The safety's events. The safeties are the quarterbacks at the
backfield and our front for our front seven are the
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best in the business at going after the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And they did the.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Excellent job thing. We got him down three times. VJ
As for as the defensive coordinated man, he's the puppet master.
He's making this thing go when you least expected somebody's coming.
And I was sitting there like that on that third down,
I said, you got sick the dogs on him. You
got to sit the dogs on them. And I was
sitting there. I was sitting at the bar in Littleton
because I usually watched it home. I was sitting at
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the bar in Littleson and and the person's looking at
me like what I said, they got sick the dogs
on them. They looking at me like, what are you
talking about? Like you're talking about animals. We watching the
football game. I'm like, trust me, they're finna sick the
dogs on him. And sure enough McMillan comes off the
edge and got that huge sack. Yeah, I was just
so it was just, you know what, it's fulfitting for
that young man. I watched him over the last few years. Man,
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he stepped up and made plays, and for him to
get that and and kind of carry his team, Like
you said, so Tan is down, but the the but
the train got to keep moving in the back end.
Safeties down, an excellent job of quarterback and that thing
and the coach dialing up because he trusts his guys.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
What do you think about bone?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The offense got the best performance in two years.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That's about.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I don't care if win or if we'd have lost
that game, it still would have been the best performance
on offense. Because I'm looking through here, three hundred and
forty two total yards. People forget kamas Hitty has one
of the top defense in the league. That defensive coordinator
could have been ahead coach three times over. He just
stayed and got him two more Super Bowls instead of
going somewhere else. He's getting paid like a head coach.
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Hes getting paid realm with well to stay there, and
Andy Reid lets him call that defense. And so we're
not playing against because they're down offensively, people think they're
down overall. No, their defense is one of the tops
in the league, and so we already knew it was
gonna be a dog fight going in. But they have
three hundred and forty two yards zero turnovers, right, But
one thing I looked at that really stund out for
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me was time and possession. We have been getting dominated
on time of possession. We've been three and out on
offense a lot. Our third downy fishy series been horrible,
and to do it in this game and be seven
to fifteen is not great. But here's one thing that
and I've said this for four years, we were better
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on first down that we've been in a long time.
We were so good on first down that it makes
second down and third downs more manageable and when we
needed to, you know, time possession was almost fifty to
fifty in the game, and Bowl played excellent to have
two ninety five passing, no turnovers. Okay, he didn't throw
a touchdown pass, Who cares. He did what he's supposed
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to do. Big play at the end of the game
with him and Franklin old school college moves and Franklin,
you know, stepped up and layed the team and receive
it again.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Bonix was five for eight for one hundred and fifty
six passing yards on deep passing like we been And
by the way, I have something else on Bonix that
he said in the post game that I immediately thought of
you and I talked about it yesterday. But the deep
passing part of the game, it's it's been tough. Like
I mean, there's no other way around it. It's been
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it's say, hit and miss, but I can barely think
of the hits.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's been mostly missed. But in this game, I mean,
even on.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That first drive, you sort of felt okay, I think
they convert those two third downs and you felt like
he was doing better with his pocket awareness. Remember we
talked about that even just last week. We said, hey man.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
He's he's big.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Truly he was drifting, drift didn't do any of that.
So is that like many buy adjustments. What do you
what do you take away from that?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He's a smart player.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
He goes back and watch film on himself, and I
guarantee you, no matter what a coach says, he's harder
on himself because he can see how if I do
this versus this, And it's that, It's that, it's that
familiarity up front, because the guys up front. I take
my hat off to all of them across the board. Uh,
did an excellent job of giving him time, giving him
just enough space for him to get the get, get
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the pass off. What was the thing that you said
that he was saying at the press confidence.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Oh, as soon as he said this, I I I
did a fist pump and I said, Rod Smith is
going to be freaking out about this. So he was
asked about third and locks and what they did. Pay
attention to the very first part of this, because this
is something you've been asking for for the entire season.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Actually, we called the same play probably three or four times,
I think, and we hit I guess two or three
different receivers on the play. So you know, Troy's long
catch was great. Courtland had two intermediate catches that were
off the same play. So we just found some stuff
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that was working and our guys were getting open. And
at the end of the day, third down and third
and long is all about windows and timing, and you know,
the last one was escaping and you know a little
bit of a scramble drill that he just saw and
worked back out and it was perfect, perfect time, and
he kind of saw it before it happened and knew
he was going to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So that's just you know, at this.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Point, when you start getting in the season, you start
having this rhythm and feel with your guys, and you know,
it pays off. It pays off to know where they're
gonna be. And there's just resilient group and they're tough,
and they run every route hard and they fight for
the football and they play hard and it's just good
to see those guys make plays in critical moments.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
But as soon as he said the very beginning, I know,
I told you, man, I told you, he said, we
ran that same play three or four times and just
hit different receivers off of it.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Man, you gotta have something you can hang your hat on.
And we've been begging for this for a while. It's
almost like you got to go to these trick plays,
gadget plays. No, I'm gonna go to what works. But
I have a smart enough guy that he can read
it and go the other way. He can read it
and go this way. But the great thing about bow
is he can run it. His legs are you see,
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they had a spy on him. They had to spy
him because he can run. And they had a guy
who was good. They had a guy their linebacker was
fast and all that, but when he throws it over
your head, there's a gap still there because you have
to account for him with his legs if you don't
get there with your ford. They they have a really
good forward. They got some pro bowlers on their front foor.
You know, Jones won the best in the league. But
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I think our guys handled up very well. But it's
just it's great to hear that. The maturity, if you
heard it, he was a maturity in the offense and.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Within each other.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He said, I already knew what they were going to do,
and you know what they knew where he wanted them
to go.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Takes that takes time.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And they've had quite a bit of time because you
had at least those two starting receivers for the last
two years. And that that continuity, man, and that flow
that I can promise you right now, that is gonna
make us scary. You can mark my words on this.
This is gonna make us scary because as soon as
they start cutting back on the playbook and start calling
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what they know they can run, then he can decide
where to get get the.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Ball or all those fails.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm rolling out this pocket and I'm gonna go get
three or four, six, ten, fifteen on the ground.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, he hasn't really gotten to that point part of
his game very much yet. As I saw earlier today,
somebody put out on on pressure to sack moments. He
he's only scrambling six percent of the time, like it's
one of the lowest in the league, which is a
bit startling considering what he was able to do last year.
And I'm not even getting down about it because you're winning,
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all right, so you still have that to unlock. And
we both know and can say they have not played
their best game yet, especially on the offensive side of
the ball. But I just love that answer so much
for multitude reasons. It's certainly something you've been saying for
a while. You talked about when you guys were winning
Super Bowls about how we're gonna line up and we're
gonna run the same play and if you can't stop it,
you're just.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Gonna keep getting more of it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And so here they have this like, hey man, we're
gonna be in third and long and they've been terrible,
I mean, one of the worst in the league at
third and long, and yet they converted him over and
over again.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
It wasn't a play, It wasn't the gadget playing well
behind the screen double pass. It wasn't a faked, faked
dive throw it deep, none of that stuff. And it just,
Mana's just good to hear, because when you talk about
the pressure in this whole, I didn't even know they
measured all this stuff. There's pressure ratios and all this stuff.
You know who this used to be like that, and
they used to say this about him, Lamon Jackson. Lamar
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Jackson was he was looking to run first and this
this and that well, when you're unfamiliar with the offense
and you're definitely unfamiliar with the people, the first thing
you do is go make something happen on my own.
And then once you learn your guys, you have a
quote like you just played, that's what you have. A
guy said, they know I know what they want, and
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they know what I want, and we went found a
way to make it happen and it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
There was another interesting moment so the third and fifteen
with Corland sudden and he talked about at the very
tail end about that about it was a bit of
a scramble drill.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
He climbed the.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Pocket, which was fantastic, and Corland saw him because Corland's
route was actually going to the left going the other way,
and then he went back to the right, which is
the reason why. And then Bobix put it so perfectly
right in a spot where court could come down and cradle.
He didn't have to get hit up high. It didn't
put the ball in risk at all. It was so unbelievable.
But Chris Jones after the game, I don't know if
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you heard this, but Chris said that that Bonis called
out their defense, like he knew exactly what they were
going to be.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
This is really cool.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
The great fields were steady for daycause they called it out.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I heard them called it now.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
They actually if you watch the film here, you see
Phil Nis kind of swish Stillana.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
So they.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
We gotta do a goot of job in disguising.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So I mean again talking about Chris Jones' future Hall
of Famer and he says, they're they're they're lining up.
I can only imagine what that would feel like when
you're a defense the calls in, you're lining up.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
They know what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
They know what we're doing like that abandoned right, they
know exactly what we're gonna attack them with.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now a third and fifteen you'd say, okay, well we
have to we have to run it.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
But at the same time, yeah, Bonicks saw it and said, Okay,
I know exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
You know what you know what that means the coaching staff,
the offensive coaching staff. I gotta take man off to him.
The best game I believe Sean Payton has called in
the year he's been coaching. I have to We've been
on him about some of the play calls. This this
and this, and I said this the other day yesterday,
actually that I saw us run the ball up the
middle with Harvey. I saw us run the ball with
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mcglocking up the middle. And we never run the ball
with those guys up the middle. We only ran it
with Dobbins. But Tess Dobbins is out, you have no choice.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And you know what they did.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
They got every tough yard they could get mcglogen's touchdown.
My grandson was I was downstairs watching it and my
grandson comes down during the game and.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That's right when they hand him the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And he gets stopped about two yards in and it's
almost like and I love when Minus does this and
Bow's does this.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I just love.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I just love what they just.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
He's almost like, I dare you to stop my guy,
and they pick him up. I guarantee his feet or
not even on the ground. He's trying to run, he's
trying to hold the ball for that time to take it.
And they told him in the end zone. And you
should have saw my grandson. He just yeah, he yeah,
so freaking loud. And I was just looking at him
like shocked. He's like, oh my god, that was so cool,
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just to watch them. I said, yeah, man, you got
a muscle. He starts flexing all this stuff. But he
just it was just that moment because I walked the
first half at home and I watched the second.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Half in the bar. So wow, yeah, but it was
it was It was great, man, it was. It was
just great to just see that team.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Man, this team, but the coaching staff. That means he's prepared.
That means you study this team like you couldn't believe.
And that's probably why all that stuff being said. Chris
Jones's quote is even better. He knew what we were doing.
That means the coaches had you prepared for any and
everything they could do. And the fact that he said,
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my guys knew what I needed from them, and they
knew what I need, man, that in itself is why
this was probably the greatest game in three years.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's truly remarkable. Yeah, finding himself in that position.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I mean, it's third and fifteen and that was so
there's such a pivotal moment for a multitude of reasons.
I think it was pivotal for the team to convert
that for their own confidence, you know, And it reminded
me a little bit of Bonix had having that completion
to Cortland Sudden last year at Arrowhead that set them
up for the field goal that should have been the
game winner but unfortunately was blocked. But it kind of
reminded me a bit of that because you know, if
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you give the ball back to Patrick Mahomes, like this
is what he does, Like that he's made a career
off of teams not being able to convert in those
situations giving the ball back and then he says, all right,
I'm gonna go ahead and go win this thing right now.
But the fact that the Broncos continues to not blink
in those moments, I think does farewell.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You mentioned the running game. We probably got to talk
about that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So no, JK.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Dobbins more likely for the rest of the season, although
there's a I guess a glimmer of hope that he
could be available for the Super Bowl. We'll table that
for now. But what did you think about and what
do you think about what they're going to be able
to do there?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I one thing is is and I think he's been waiting.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
That kid is hungry.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He's He's one of those guys man. I rooted for
him since I seen him first step on the football field.
He plays with a certain heart, he plays with a
certain swagger. He's fearless.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
He ran up in the middle.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Dude, he's he's a smaller running back as far as
the NFL, but he ran up in there and were like,
I dare you to knock me back.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm going forward.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I'm much prove to this coach that I'm because of
circumstance he's in.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
It's a circumstances not where they are. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
They don't have to promote him to a second running back.
He could have been still easily the third running back.
But he came in and made some plays. The one
thing I like about those two guys running the ball,
they if they get that inside game together. And that's
of course is based off the offensive line, but those
guys are great out in space and they catch the
ball extremely well. And when they catch the ball. You
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saw a couple of Harvey those they look like screenplays,
but those way, I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like, where did these players come from?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And it was just amazing. He caught that one on
the left hand side and and I think Corler was
running around he got bubbled when his guy bubble. You're
not tackling this kid in space, and that right there
is you're you're catering to the the the the catering
to the.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Strengths of your guys.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's out flanking the linebacker and you're not kept tackling
this kid one on one. Neither one of those kids
one on one is gonna be tough sledding for anybody.
And I just like the fact that I think you
can do. You can get the ball to him quick
in space. They do something well with it. And at
the same time, those tough yards, the two three on
the ground man on first and second down is amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
It's a big deal. And you know those the plays
that he threw there to the left flat, he actually
threw the pressure was coming from that side, which was
another like high level quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
He come off the blitz, go to where they come from.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yes, that's right, you're replacing it. So hey, if he's
gonna come on the blitz, that means my guy's there.
And just making that quick decision and not hesitating like that.
That's one thing that we've seen hesitation from him and
the Raiders game especially, he has to double pump and
he kind of steric down and you're like, okay, man,
what's going on? Why are you thinking so much? It
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seemed like he was a lot more free. Do you
think some of that is, you know, getting up to
the line as fast as they were.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
They were doing a.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Little more of that because you say, hey, no JK.
Dobbins in this game, but you played more confident than
we've seen you play the entire season.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I I. You know what it comes down to, preparation.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, the coaches have extra time.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The coaches had you prepared. Yeah, the coaches had you
very well prepared for that game. The Chiefs had a
lot of time and the Broncos had a lot of time.
The coaches have no time. They're twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week. Man, they do this thing all
day every day. When one game's over, there on to
the next day. Already they already prepped two games ahead.
I guarantee you that it's a bye week for the
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most it's not a bie fear when you want to
win a championship. It's not a bye week. When you're
trying to show your dominance. You're not trying to you're
trying to show them that these these eight straight are
our flu because everybody thinks it's a fluke. You got
all the all the media people who thinks it's a fluke.
And and I ain't gonna say his name because I
want to give no public always always as the kids say,
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glazing Kansas City, and he always putting the Broncos down.
And I said, you know, after your last prediction, you
should cut all your damn hair off your head.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Because he I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I don't know I'm talking about. It don't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I ain't gonna say his name, but I just any
anybody that's you. You won eight straight games, and people
try to find something wrong.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
There's always gonna be something wrong in the NFL. This
these games are extremely difficult to win. Our backups are
playing like starters. We're gonna get some guys back. You
mentioned the list of guys. We're gonna get some guys
back in the later part of the season. We're gonna
get this bye week this week. That gives us another
week to heal. Bowles is tired.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
He should be.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
He just played the whole college season he's tired, he's
exhaust he's our vet's he's guy in front, but he's tired.
Mcgleinsey's tired. The centers all of the time, they aren't tired.
You know what, they can get some rest. You know what,
it is well earned. I'm like, trust me, they're finna
sick the dogs on him, and sure enough McMillan comes
off the edge and got that huge sack. And you
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know what, it's ffitting for that young man. I watched
him over the last few years. Man, he stepped up
and made plays, and for him to get that and
kind of carry his team, like you said, so tann
is down, but the train gotta keep moving. In the
back end, safeties done an excellent job of quarterback and
that thing and the coach dialing up because he trusted
his guyslet's.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
On the way, mahomes deep.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Drop, it's gonna be hit head sacked back inside the
fifteen yard life Jay klawon McMillan second sack of the
game and the biggest so far in this contest. Man, hey, listen,
everywhere he did what they needed him to do. He
plays his role very well, and that the kid's gonna
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be he gonna be here for a while. Hopefully he's
here for a while because we had a great young
back end. Uh. I think the safeties are the quarterback
of the whole thing, getting everybody lined up right. And
when your coach trusts you to send you off that corner.
He reminds me of Ray Crockett. Crock has a lot
of sacks. Crock would come off that corner, we'd be
he covers because McMillan covers the slat guy, and.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's the side they come off of.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And if you you said something earlier, remember you said
they would blitch off the side, and bow would throw
to the side they blitzed off of. Because the guy
who's recovering is back. He's back deep. If I get
into my guy fast, he got room to make a miss.
And that's what Harvey did those two times. He got
that ball in the flats. And it's just it's just
it's just football, man, and it's it's it's little details
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like that, just knowing where you're supposed to be, getting
there in a hurry and giving you a quarterback a chance.
And McMillan hats off to you, man. He he he
played lights out he's got to be some kind of
war for this league as a guy who started this
year as a backup and making plays like that in
that big.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Of a game. Exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Let me ask them about the Chiefs for a second.
They we'll come back to the Broncos. But I want
to say there's been a lot of speculation. I mean,
they're five and five. They certainly are not really in
line to contend for the division again. They've got nine
straight years, so that that that ends now, but they
are on the outside looking at right now, Where are
you at with the Chiefs dynasty?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Like I mean, Harperbolla, Like you know what I'm saying,
Like is it I.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I don't know if it's it. Only you got to
think about it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
The kan City Chiefs over the last nine years since
Pat Mahome's been there, they've had just as much turnover
as everybody else, and they found a way to kicktail.
Trust me, I went to school in Missouri. I got
great friends in Missouri and in kans City that lived
in Kansas City, diehard kan City fans, and they've been dominating.
They've dominated us. Let me just call it the way
it is. They've dominated us since Mahome's been there, and
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you can feel not complete yet, you can feel the
changing of the guard. You can feel the tie has
swung our way. The one thing about the AFC and
the charges have came up, they've been balling, you know,
as of late, they've you know, had a couple of
stumbles here and there, but they're still one of the
top teams. The AFC West has been a it's been
hard and they've led it. They've led the AFC as
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a whole over the last several years, last, you know,
almost a decade, and you can't I'm never gonna take
that away from him. I don't care everybody talks about
all these other young quarterbacks blah blah blah. The most
dangerous guy to me in the NFL is still number
fifteen for Kansas City. I don't care what anybody says,
because if there's a smidgeon of a second left, I
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believe he can make a play. I've seen that with
John Elway, I've seen that with somebody with your Tom
Brady's other world, Dann Marinos.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I've been on the field and watch. I was in
Joe Montana's last stand was against us.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I've watched this stuff go down and I see this
young man and I'm never gonna give you. I don't
like him because he's not on our team, but I'm
never gonna take away what he's done.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
He's done.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
He's had a run that's been been super impressive. But
every all good things come to an end, and it's
up to us to end it. It's up to us
to not just take them down for the AFC West,
that's not good enough. I was talking to a guy
at the grocery store, My guy. I talked to it
at the grocery store every time. He I said, man,
why are you all hype?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Mary one?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Man? The time I'm checking out, I leave May and
him talking. He talked, he talked football. Say listen, but
I said. He said, he's giving me Playboy play Look, man,
take AFC West. Then we get the first round by
and I said, man, I said, end theday, dude, we
gotta win, Supway said, I'm just taking baby steps. I said,
you know what, I appreciate the baby steps, but to
all the two d thrown them. You can't just do
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this once. You got to come back. But let's let's
let's finish this year off the way we're supposed to go,
get this rest, because they definitely earn that rest.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, I lisigned with you the whole Is it all
for her? For the Chiefs, I'm I'm not ready for that.
I think that you have to have if and he.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Reads their coach. Yeah, it's never over. Fifteen is their
quarterback is never never over?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
I mean Travis Kelcey may retire after this year, you know,
whodos Ultimately he had still ninety one.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Girlfriend's a billionaire. Yeah, I'm man, I'm knocking her up.
And I'm just jokeing.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So very quickly on that, just because David, I've had
this back and forth about being a kept man, and
I said, hell yeah, saying for.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
A living she stays in great shame she had little
like she'd be a great mom.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So no, I don't, I don't. I don't think Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Of course, is the most one of the most dominant
Tinians to ever play the game, No doubt him. And
when him and fifteen out together, man, that's dangerous. When
they start throwing the digging and dunking the ball to him,
they're not Dinxon dunks. The deacon dunks for other other
quarterbacks and tiny and combos. He's he's he's dominant. He
took the game over there for a second and gave
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him that hope and glimmer. He's done it to us
man for years. If I if he retires, I believe
it'll be but physically because if he physically can do it,
and fifteen is still there and and Andy Reid of
course is gonna probably be there. I think he goes
one more year maybe, but it's not because one thing
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about football and pretty much most pro sports, once you
it's over in your mind, is over. And that's hard.
It's it hurts man when when you call that love
and that passion, he didn't go anywhere. It's just physically
you can't do it. And that's the part it hurts well.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And then when it starts to happen, it basically is
the end. Like as soon as you start thinking about it,
as soon as that little bug gets in your head.
Yeah no, I mean that's I've heard that universally from
every single player.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
And again it's not to say that it will or
it won't.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I do wonder how this season wraps, how that might
impact things right, because last year they lost in the
Super Bowl. They got they got it kind of beat down,
they got embarrassed, and he said, no, I'm coming back.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
We are right there.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
We can continue this thing. We have a chance to
continue to run this thing as long as we can go.
And then if they missed the playoffs this year, like
that's a real possibility. Like I still don't think they will.
I think that, but honestly, you don't want them in
the game, No, you do not. But if they missed
the playoffs this year, do you wonder how that impacts
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his decision?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
If they make the playoffs but they get balanced maybe
in the first or second round, you wonder how that
might impact things.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I don't know. It's tough to say, because.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
When you're an all time great, you sort of have
earned a right to kind of leave on your own terms.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And he is an all time great.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah. Absolutely, Like I said, it's a tough call for
any guy. I mean, all of us didn't get this
status of all time greats, you know what I'm saying.
So we didn't get the fan fair where we left
the game. But every single man that I've seen play
that game, and when they leave the game is hard.
I actually, when the Broncos had our alumni weekend and
I had one of the young guys, he came up
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to me because I follow him on Instagram. Here and
his wife and they living out in California. He's doing
really good. Oh my Boulder, he does. He does great.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
He's a cool guy.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, And he said, bro, while y'all didn't tell us,
it was just hard when you're out of the game.
And I was like, he's like, he said, dude, he said,
he said, we didn't we didn't reach out to y'all enough,
or I said, man, sometime we stay away because we
don't want the coaches at the clubs to think we're
trying to step on anybody's toes. I want those guys
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to live that. I mean, have the longest, most productive
career you can because when it's over, it's a it's
a it's a man, it's a huge transition, and a
lot of guys don't transition well. I think Omar has
done good job. But the fact that he said that
to me, he's like, man, he said, I wish I
wish I would have asked you or you know, you
guys more questions about when it's over because his career
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ended shorter, and you.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Don't know when it's going to end.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
But for Travis and any guy in that position, man, man,
you joined as long as you can. I remember coach
Kobak told me this, and he was talking about some
stuff and he said, man, you know I was tell
him how you know he knew how long I had
been in the league because I've been with him most
of my career.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
He said, man, listen, play this thing as long as
you can.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
And I did until my body's Braceley told me I
couldn't do it anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
And you know what I did.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I could live with that.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
It's still hurt, but I could live with it.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Me ate straight in that game. And you know, I
was actually asked.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I was on a radio station in Kansas City, by
the way, Benjamin al Bright and studio, Hi been, what's.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Up, Benjamin? What's going on? How's it going? Nice?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Hat?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
It's going pretty well?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, you should do. Look what is this?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
What do?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Would you describe this look as?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Stoner? Chic? Okay, stoner?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
She you know what?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
He hit it?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I don't smoke, but you look like a smoker. Yeah,
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I don't either confirm nor deny.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
They don't. Did not, just did not?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
You do?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You got to look, you got to shoot stone and look.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
But I but I asked.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
I was asked by a radio station in Kansas City.
Do I think that either the Kansas City run as
far as your dynasty is maybe ending, or do I
think they're even a playoff team like they are starting
to feel it out there whether or not what this
iteration of the Chiefs can continue to be at that
elite level.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Man, it's hard to.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Continue this stuff in sports with the way the sports
are designed to where you don't have those those domination
for year after year after year after year.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And they've done it.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Like I said, they had to turnover just like everybody else.
They had the injuries just like everybody else, and they
found they remember they first won their first ever Super
Bowl recently, you know what I'm saying. And they've went
to win three of them. And it's been tough. You know,
it's been tough playing against them. No matter where you
plan when you play, they've been tough.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I take that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I take my hat off to Andy Reid when he
left Philly and came to AFC West, I was like,
damn it, because he was dominant.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Then he was dominant over there. He just never got
over the top.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And he's one of the best coaches in the game
period bar nine, first Ball of Hall of Fame coach,
and we take my hat off to him for that.
Because but the league now, teams remember every year when
we're shooting at we're shooting at them.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Every year.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Every team in AFC was gunning for the Chiefs, and
they finally we we slowed them down a little bit.
That's all I can say, because you don't never notice
is over man with with the with the comminator, the
three headed monster that they have.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's it's pretty They've been pretty dominant for a while.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I'm just saying, be careful, That's all I'm saying. Remember,
Remember I remember two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We told me the Patriots dynasty was over, and then
they came back and they won what it was like
nine straight first in their division and three Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So just just be careful.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
They did a Daniel cheating too. You ain't never bring
that up. But we got some some flate Gate. We
all kind of stuff with.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Method. I'm under the table so.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Other, exactly so other than a three hour review of
Pineapple Express.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What else are you guys gonna do?
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We're gonna try some gummy bears out.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't even know they're in this. Let's just
get it trying them out. Stevie to be in a studio,
Oh my gosh, I can't wait. You know what, I'll
let you guys have fun with that.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I heard some Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'll give it a review during the break. Yeah, you
do have a look to have the munchies over there.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I do, okay. Appreciate you, man, Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Always great.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Looking forward to next week. It's bye week. Let's go perfect,
guaranteed to win.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Guaranteed to win, no doubt about it. All right, lot
to be fun next week leading up into the final games.
Grant great job as always, Pact next