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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got football on the other side of all of this.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Of course, a big game coming up on Sunday for
the Chiefs and the Colts. We'll probably get to that
here in a little bit, but I want to ask you, David.
I didn get a chance to ask you this earlier
in the week. Sean gave the guys the full week off.
You like that, I mean, it is what it is.
But did you ever get a whole week off?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I don't think so, but I would say the way
they've played and where this by week comes, and I
think I think coaches usually have a pretty good sense
on like what their teams need, whether they're I mean,
you're you're going to be physically tired, You're going to
be beat up, but I think maybe just to kind
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of recharge your battery and get away from it. I
was a little bit surprised they got the whole week,
but I'm you know, to me, he knows better than
anybody what the sort of the temperature and the pulse
of his team is.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, it feels like a pulse kind of thing. Did
you ever get a full week off?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Nate?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm trying to remember if we had to come back
the next day I think we might have done something
on Monday and then had the rest of the week
and then come back the following Monday, have Tuesday off,
and then a regular week. But I think Mike Shanahan's
subscribed to a similar approach. Let's let these guys get
out of here now. Of course they do the speech
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before that. Yeah, don't do anything stupid, you know, take
care of yourself, to care of your body. Go have
some fun, but you recharge a battery. But don't go
so far away from the game mentally that you can't
get back. And I think that's the risk there, because
it's like the objects in motion tend to stay in
motion thing. Yeah, of course, and that week back, when
you get back, it's it's rough that first day.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Back when you when you're you know, they'll probably run you.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
A little bit. You're a little bit out of shape.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And some guys probably don't work, you know, don't touch
your weight for the week, and some guys do, and
so you have to recalibrate a little bit. So it
is a little tricky. But I think Sean Payton has
a good finger on the pulse.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You might have a little alcohol oozing out of your pores,
you know whatever. People do different things during the break,
I was looking at I was looking.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Around the room and that lazy guy.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You know how that works?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I do wonder though, and this was a conversation I
had with Zach before the show. What can you accomplish,
I say, from a coaching staff standpoint, as far as
adjustments or things you want to do in the second
half or in this case, the final six weeks, Like
what kind of especially if the coaching staff also took
the week off, maybe you're not doing a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I guarantee you that did not happen. Okay, I guarantee you.
I mean, I'm listen. I've never coached in the NFL.
I'm a high school coach, but I would think that
they will use some of that time to go back
and self scout, to look at with a critical eye
what they've done, what they've done well, are there any
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tendencies that we need to sort of break right? They'll
run all sorts of analytics. Hey, what you know, what
is there a formation that we use more than not
on the right hash Once we're in plus territory on
third ten and eight or more, I mean down to
sort of that that kind of detail. So I think
that's important. But you also, I think, and I think
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a lot of head coaches are good at this, and
maybe some aren't. But you got to make sure your
staff is ready to go. I mean, I think you
have to be eminently aware of I mean, these guys
grind during the week. You know, they get in an
old dark thirty and they leave and it's dark forty five, right,
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I mean, you get in as dark as you go home.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's dark. But I think you got to, you know,
for this playoff.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Push now, you want to make sure that staff is
re energized and focused and ready to go.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, there's such a psychological approach to it too, not
just X and o's. And it helps to have an
analytics department that's crunching those numbers and coming up with
some of those scenarios that Dave just mentioned. You know,
it doesn't have to be the coaches, you know, going
through that film and figuring out what what works and
what doesn't in these certain formations. They can get hand
on a piece of paper, right and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, the Broncos do a lot of the.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Different stuff personnel wise, So are they looking at what
was working from the different groups we're putting in and
maybe goutting out some of the stuff that wasn't But
the psychological approach not just to the players, but the coaches,
everybody in that building. You're gonna need everybody's best shot
going forward, So how do you get that you know,
and keep everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
On the same page.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So let me ask you this one more on this,
and then I do want to ask you about last
night's game, because boy, that Broncos win over the Texans
now looks way different I think in retrospect. But if
you are Sean Payton and you're taking a look at
what your offense did here in the first eleven games
of the season, and you're thinking about in terms of
what you want to accomplish in the final six, what
are you thinking about like And again we're putting ourselves
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inside his brain, which is maybe a bit scary, but
I'll just say, like this, when you say, well, I
gotta get better at run or you know some of
these route concepts, Maybe we need to get the ball
out of Bonix's hands a little faster. What are some
thing that you think he's seeing that he's like, okay,
well we can do this right now, or are things
that we're going to be looking on the offseason.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You mean from a from a scheme standpoint, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
A that's a hard question, honestly. I mean we I
consider up here and act like I know. I mean,
I would have ideas in terms of how I view
what they do, but I don't necessarily know for certain
that would be how Sean would view it. I would
look at that and say, we have to be more
efficient running the ball?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
All right? How how how do we do that?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
You?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I mean, they like their offensive line. Their offensive line
has graded out well the entire season.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Both in the run game and the pass game.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And yet now without Dobbins, the run game is going
to be a little.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Bit different, all right?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
How do we how do we carve up carries between
these backs?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Who are the backs?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Is Tyler Badet, who really was not in the sort
of the rotation against the Chiefs, is he back in
the rotation? Do we think Julie who I thought ran
well in limited opportunities against Kansas City, is he sort
of a wild card now in this run game?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But I think you know, you look ahead and unless.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We're assuming they're going to make the playoffs, and let's
say you're playing into January, whether unless you go to
Houston or Indy, I guess, I mean, whether could be
a factor, could be a factor here, could be a
factor in Baltimore, could be a factor in Kansas City,
could be a factor in Buffalo, although they won't have
to go to Kansas City. But you have to have
the ability, I think to and it can be in
a really creative way. But you've got to be efficient
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in the run game, and I just I haven't felt
like they've done that consistently.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, I think it's going to be it's going to
be an issue for them to figure out exactly what
Dave's talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
The loss of him is a tough one because remember
chan Paigne already had to write run it on his
play sheet last year. It's remind him to run the ball.
His tendency is to want to throw the ball. But
they went to Buffalo last year in the playoffs and
got absolutely pushed around because they or able to establish
that running game. Playoff football is more so about the
running game than the regular season is. I would also say,
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you know, if they're going to self scout some of
the stuff that they've been doing. Sometimes it seems to
me that they don't set up the things that they're
trying to accomplish, like the double pass thing.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That they did with RJ. Harvey. They did a toss
to J.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
They don't do a lot of tosses at all, but
they've tossed it out there. Well, things look weird unless
you set them up. Let's run some tosses first. Let's
run the things first that we want to play off of.
And I feel like sometimes Sean is quick to want
to do the thing that plays off of something he
hasn't set up yet.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And so sometimes the first quarter, second.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Quarter woes the Broncos have had to me is because
you're not setting the precedent with an attack. Let's just
come off the ball and attack. Whether it's running the football,
whether it's direct passing game, quick passing game, Let's come
off the ball, make look everything look exactly the same,
and then as the game goes on, we can build
off of that. When we get guys turning their hips
because they're afraid we're going by them, We're afraid we're
going this way, and so you know, that's what I'm
(08:04):
looking at Yeah, but he's a last smarter than I am,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
He'll be the first to tell you as well. I
mean that with all due respect.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Back and forth with the media, like after the After.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
The Wind with Kansas City with Chris Thominson when he
was asking about JK.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Dobbson question he is, uh, I would I would say
that that was a little personicity.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
All right, Well, here here's the just in case people
missed it, here's Chris Thominson asking about JK.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Dobbins.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Sean, what can you say to us about JK dobbins
is injured situation?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And if he updates, I'll keep you posting.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Is the after the season updates, I'll keep you posting.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And then just next question with the running game to
next question your thoughts on the Running game?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Thought it was good, good enough?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
See but in fairness and that and that that was
short and he fired back. But here here's the deal.
And we all love Chris the head coach, which has
made it clear multiple times I'm not going to answer
any injury questions.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
He has said that like three or four times. Yes, So.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
When after a game, even a big game, a big win,
you fire with hey, what can you tell us.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
About the JK Dobbins injury?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean his eyes light up like that horse out
there right in front of d I A what's his name?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Oh, Blucifer?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, do you see those eyes?
But you do not want to look.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
It's like Lucifer fell on the dude that created it
and killed him, right, I believe so I've heard that
is true. I think that is true, and his son
finished the job.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I don't want to have a seance in this mug.
I'm just saying you're right. He has been very clear
about that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, you know, you know, you know you're being
on his corn flakes when you asked that.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's just like, but what on ir the day before?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like, you're right?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But also that's it's relevant?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
In that moment? So they just beat the chiefs and
JK wasn't out there, and he's not going to be
out there. Why are you asking about JK Dobbs Chris?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But come on, man?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And I think sometimes Sean has has sort of singled
out Chris, and I feel bad for Chris, But on
this one, I'm like, bro, you know you're about to
get slapped up around the head several times.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
What do you what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is you hear his interaction with Luca Evans, it's worth hearing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It is absolutely the.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Third quarter touchdown drive just looks like it looked like
you guys were moving quicker, a little bit more of.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That temple questions what you called? Did you did you run?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Did you did you go?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
There were two, there were two, there were three plays.
Basically we compoed one. I felt sometimes you hurry to
beat maybe a challenge, and so anyway, next question.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Himself, Yeah, to say too much. Absolutely, he was about
to get into this like, uh, next question, next question. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's like he knows is coming, and yet he's still like, God,
you people, we can't pull questions.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
But he also mentioned in that in that press or
that the narratives you know around town, the way people talk,
the things people talk about, Yeah, they hear it, you know,
and it bugs them. And and he he instructs his
players not to mention it, not to talk about it,
but you guarant they talk about it in those meetings.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
They have to talk about it. I've been nothing but
effusive in my praise. So I know talk about you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, specific you got your picture up at the facility.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They're they're thrilled that I am carrying as much water. No,
I'm not so much. They can't be.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I picked them to beat the Chiefs. I picked them
to win all of these games are in the street
and including the Philadelphia game, I picked them to win
that game.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Next time you're out, like on Friday, next Friday, the open,
open locker room.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, let me know how that goes.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's like, is that in my head on a dartboard?
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Really?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It was like I didn't realize that was that big.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't think you're public enemy number one.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, no, no, I don't think so either. No, but.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's got to be ah no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Last night, I do want to ask you, man, what.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So First of all, as I said, the Broncos went
over the Texans in Houston, I think suddenly looks more impressive,
especially when you watch with Buffalo who Josh Allen was
sacked eight times. Here is the final tally aight sacks,
twelve quarterback hits, eleven TFLs, two interceptions of force, fumble
and a fumble recovery. Wow, that's what the Texans defense
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did to the Buffalo Bills offense. So in retrospect, I'm
very I'm even more impressed with the way the Broncos were.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Able to win that game.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Who do you feel like you learned more about last night?
Five Texans or Bills?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Like? Who do you? Oh? What do you think you
learned more? I mean the Bills. I think you always
have to.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Not qualified, but you've got to be realistic when you
look at a game like that. I mean, Buffalo was
missing a couple pretty good receivers, Dalton Knox, me and
one of them.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But I mean we knew Houston. I mean Houston's front four.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Houston defensively does not do a lot of crazy things,
but they just line.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Up and get after you.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Right, And if you if you can't run the ball
on Houston, then and you're gonna you're gonna drop back,
whether play pass or whatever, and throw the ball forty
five times. You know your tackles are gonna hate your
play caller. So and I thought Josh, I thought Josh,
and he even said after the game he ran himself
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into a couple of sacks.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I think Houston, I mean, I think Houston's a
good team. I mean that that would be I think
for anybody in the AFC, Houston in the postseason would
be a big challenge because of that defense.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, they looked relentless.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I mean that was pretty impressed of what they were doing,
especially along the front.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They're eight sacks. Is that what she? Eight sacks?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Eight sax, twelve quarterback hits, eleven TFLs to interceptions in
a folm, I.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Mean eleven TFLs. Hello, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Mean the offensive line not playing a great game. There
no people talking this.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Today about the Houston Texans having the best defense in.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
The league, but I don't think that's the case. We
saw the Yeah, we saw the.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Broncos go toe to toe with them and looked like
the better defense out there, right And Pastor ten was
he playing in that He was not?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
And the Broncos beat him and look better on defense
and had the offensive performance that the Bills couldn't muster
against that defense. So I think it makes the Broncos
look pretty good. The Buffalo Bills were the team that
stomped on the Broncos in.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
The playoffs last year. They don't look like the same
team right now.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I do. Want to ask you guys about that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And we've talked about sort of the course of the week,
the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens kind of not looking
like the upper echelon teams were used to seeing. They
don't look as dominance. And that doesn't mean that they
won't show up in the postseason. It's just as we're
sitting here right now, the Ravens look like they have
their issues. Certainly, the Chiefs look like they have their issues,
and the Buffalo Bills do as well. But I don't
want to ask you about defenses and like what sort
of is the hallmark of the greatest defenses at the
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time or whatever, because Texas fans been in my mentions
all night. I did this to myself though because I
tweeted about.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It, but maybe all night telling me how great their
defense is compared to the Broncos and how much better
their defense is compared to the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And is there They're qualifier, of course, is scoring defense.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Like they're saying, hey, this makes us the best defense
because we allow the fewest points.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, well, I think points allowed is a big stat
for a defense overall. I mean, the Broncos a couple
of games early. Both of those games on the road
against Indianapolis and the Chargers. They gave up whatever was
twenty eight or twenty nine against India and in the
twenties against the Chargers. I think both those defenses are
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I think Houston has the most comparable defense to the
Broncos when Certan is playing. I mean, Houston has two
corners that are really good, and when Pat plays, the
Broncos have i think at the best corner in the game.
And I'm still a guy that thinks Riley Moss is
a really good player.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
In this league.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So I like the safety play of the Broncos more
than I do of the Texans. So there's not a
lot to pick from between those two. I think, you know,
you know, going in you better find a way to
slow down those two edge guys. Well that's exactly what
you say when you play the Broncos too.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, the numbers are pretty comparable with those two defenses.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I mean, you know, the Texans give up sixteen point
five points a game and the Broncos are seventeen point five.
It's one point. It's almost negligible there and yard it's.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
A big deal to Texans fans. I'm just gonna let
you know, for all the ones that I mentioned these.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Days, well, when they went head to head, the Broncos
were the better team.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
This is what I said.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I said, fire back on them, right, yeah, right, four
board exactly if flash Wu Tang's oh.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well, I think it was confusing to every way, go ahead.
It didn't work either way. Let's just put it that way.
They're still screaming at me.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
But anyways, screaming on Twitter, well, you know you type
in all caps caps, Yeah, a couple exclamation points and
some emojis, the middle finger, those guys, I.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Did you must have really stirred them up.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well yeah, I did you live for that? You absolutely
live for that? Why are you nodding along?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Anthony?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
No? Half your stuff fair?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I say live for.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It is a strong way to frame, and I think
that I understand what the medium is and I don't
back away from the tab.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I thought it was for intelligent nuance to discourse. I
thought that's what Twitter was. It's literally in the byline
Twitter or X or whatever they call these days. Yeah,
it's like intelligent discords.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
What did you say? I literally tweeted a gift, that's it.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I didn't say anything else. I tweeted a gift and
they were unhappy about it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Of a baby crying, Okay, so I can't imagine where
they would be upset with that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, it just just sort of a shrug, like, I
don't know about that. Didn't go well, but I won't
gay with it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And now and now, Texas fans are excited about seeing
the Broncos in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I can't wait to see you guys again. Yeah, we're
gonna be So here's the deal. It's Houston.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's Houston in a position now where they're they're going
to beat they're going to win their division. Jacksonville still well,
the cults are still I'm sorry, the cults are still there.
So Houston really, unless Indianapolis collapses, the best they can
do is be a wildcard team.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's exactly right. And Jacksonville is actually still ahead of
them at six and four. They're playing this weekend, So
it's Indianapolis eight and to Jacksonville six and four. Houston
is six and five. Houston's on the outside looking in
even WITHOU win.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So who are they right now?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The two wildcard the three wildcard teams for the AFC
would be the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bills, and Jaguars. Those are three Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
The Chiefs are Chiefs, and Chiefs better find a way
to win Sunday.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
This is kind of it, I mean, not mathematically right.
And I agree though that this is this is as
big a game as they they've had in a long
time for a regular season game. And I don't know, man,
Chiefs fans are talking again Internet, they're talking a big game.
But I think if you pulled them, honestly, there's a
little bit of a worry about their identity right now.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They can't really run the ball very well. And I
even trying, really, how many.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Teams have been to four consecutive Super Bowls? The Bills
I can think of. Yeah, I believe that. I believe
the Dolphins, did the Patriots in the early seventies.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Did the Patriots go to four in a row? That's
a good question we have to go. I can look
at that. Yeah. I mean it's hard.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I mean, it's the point of it is it's it's
hard to do Yeah, I mean really hard to do.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
This is a big game, as you as you talked about,
and I don't know for a moment before we get
to break. Who you got Chiefs or Colts.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I've not decided, but I would, And I know, you know,
looking at stuff today and watching stuff listening, a lot
of people, people that I respect their opinions are leaning
towards the Colts because they can run it, their offensive
line is great, Jonathan Taylor is having a superior year.
But if you ask me today, I would lean Kansas
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City winning that game.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I got the Colts, of course you do, which isn't
good news for the Broncos because you'd like you probably
like the Colts to lose.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I actually think that it could play out the best
of both worlds if the Colts.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Win and knock the Chiefs kind of out, like out
of it, out of it.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, And the Colts still, they have a tough schedule
ahead of them. They got to play the Texans after
the Chiefs. They play the Texans, they play the Jags,
they play the Seahawks, they play the Niners, they play
the Jags again, they play the Texans again.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Wow, you get the Texans twice, yeah, and the Jags twice. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Okay, so I think they're going to lose a couple
of those and they got the Niners and the Seahawks.
I mean, those are some formidable opponents there. As Gary
kubiak Wu was saying, we're fixing a fine out, I
can't wait for that. All right, we'll write back.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Okay, wayes to watch, but play of football, no doubt
about that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
This was fun.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
On the text line, Please have Nate do some coach
paytent impressions today.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, so look, listen relative to personnel groupings like that.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Pretty good? Pretty good? Right, that's pretty good. Let me
stop you. So look, so we're gonna that's pretty good. Yeah,
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Every Friday, somebody, somebody texted says, all right, we need
it today, get fired up for the game.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It's easier, easier.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
To do it when I hear him talk, like when
I listen to your guys' coach's corner. Right after that,
like when I actually hear him talk and I could
just kind of share it what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
But uh, very interesting voice.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And look it's there's some pauses when you know, and
that kind of thing that is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's that's the best one I've heard. Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I wonder if Sean would like, can you say Evan
three times slowly.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Evan.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Evan, my name is Luca.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Hey. Did you catch any bout Nicks on Pat McAfee today.
I don't know if you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Honestly, I usually watched the Pat McAfee show, but did
not get a chance to do that today.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So they had Dan Lanning on there in organ for
the organ USC game, which is going to be really fun,
high flying offenses, all that kind.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Of bow up there getting ready to go to the game.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
No, he wasn't, which I thought he maybe maybe he
may still go. But they were interviewing Dan Lanning and
then they brought Bo Nixon and so he got tries
to talk to his old coach and that was kind
of a cool moment there, and then got into some
Broncos conversations.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
There was some really good answers.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
He was announced about the defense and how great they are,
but there was the final question was Mike was kind
of my favorite, and he was sort of asked about
how close the group is and if that's sort of
contributed to why they've been able to close out so
many games this year.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Here's what he said, We actually do talk about how
close our team is. We just got a lot of
young guys. I mean, I think our oldest guys are
year eight, year nine. So we're just all in similar
stages of life. I think that's what makes us close.
But we also know what it was like last year.
We know it was like to lose some of these
close games, and so we have turned some of those around.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
We have had a better record in close football games
this year.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
But I do think it just goes back to the
you know, the confidence and the belief of the team.
We believe that we can win these games. We're not
going up and you know, I feel like last year
sometimes we like didn't expect or didn't think we were
gonna find a way to win at the end.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
And then after a couple of those games this.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Year that went our way, we just kind of felt like, hey, guys,
we we got this.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
We can win these close games.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
We got really good defense that we can lean on,
we got offensive playmakers that are gonna make plays when
time comes.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
And then Will's done a great job in clutch time.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
And so when you look at our team, look at
how close we are, we just know what it can
be like on the other side. So we don't try
to get too focused up in the you know, the
the narrative or the perception we that can go so
many different ways.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
You're you're, you're exactly.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Right, and the you know, it's all about, you know,
the moment, and we get so stuck in the moment
where in a in another week, people will be saying
something totally different. So we try not to get too
caught up in the chaos of of what's going on outside.
We just try to you know, live within our building
and go to work every day, find ways to get
better that. There's so many you know, on clips or
(25:00):
out there, that list of things that we have to
you know, grow and get better at. And I think
that's also what's keeping us a little bit urgent and hungry.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
We know we have these things to get better at,
and so we won't.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We don't really have.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Time to sit around and act like we've you know,
made it, because we really haven't.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
We're just you know, we we're winning close games, and
that's what's put us in this situation right now.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Hell yeah, bo.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I kept that last part in it. That was such
a great response. Yeah, there's so much to take away.
I like the mindset shift from last year where they
he said that there were some games where they just
didn't expect to win or whatever, and so they just
didn't find a way to win.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And this year then they had a couple of those games.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So we messed the Chargers game in the Colts game
where it didn't go their way, and they said, you know,
we could have won those games, and then.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
They've just shifted the mindset, so we will win those games.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, they're seven to two in one score games. They
were one and six last year. So and you and
I've talked about this before, and it's it's real. And
I think people that it may have never had the
unity to play, certainly in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Or maybe even in college or even in high school.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Confidence is such a powerful, powerful thing and people, you know,
some people would say, well, this is the NFL. I mean,
every one of those dudes has confidence. But I'm I'm
talking about something that you can't really measure, and I
don't know exactly where it comes from, but once you've
seen it and experienced it. I played on one team
(26:29):
in the NFL one season, i should say, and we
experienced that. We had so many come from behind wins,
and you know, as three receivers you know, I knew
if Ozzie Knewsome made a big play in a game,
(26:49):
I'm like, damn, I got to do something here to
make something happen at X and Reggie Rucker at Z
and so we just it just built, and so we
never got really rattled that you might be down. We
were down to the Steelers, and those guys were world
champions four out of six years. We're down to them
(27:11):
by thirteen at home. I think going to the fourth quarter,
we just knew we were going to find a way
to win, and we did. So what bo is talking about,
I think is real. If you could find it and
bottle it and sell it at someplace, you'd own island. Yeah,
(27:31):
I mean, I mean you literally would be the wealthiest
person in the world because it is powerful stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
So when he's talking about how close they are, as
a coach who's coached so many years, you know, I'm
sure some teams the guys are closer than on other teams.
As a coach, do you try to facilitate that the
guys becoming close and becoming friends, Like, do you, you know,
try to get them together or encourage guys to hang
out outside, or how do you as a coach, or
(27:58):
can you kind of push these guys to become closer,
to get to know each other better, to care about
each other more. Is there anything you can do or
is it just kind of you get lucky with a
group of guys that you have.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And I would say this again, my qualifier and something
like that is I always say, hey, I'm a high
school coach. You know, coaching in the NFL is different
because you're coaching grown men, young men. But yeah, I
mean you you. I think some teams just sort of
naturally sort of lean into being a closer team. You
try to do some things that, at least in the
(28:31):
high school level that will get guys. I mean so like,
for instance, like on a road trip, when we've traveled
a couple of times, we have traveled, well one time
one time this year. So you do the rooming list,
and I want guys. I want seniors at a certain
position to be rooming with. If there's any ninth graders
(28:54):
on the trip or sophomores, but not not in their
not in their comfort level right, not in their they're boys.
Like everybody has guys they hang with and I'm just
closer to these guys. I want those guys to get
to know these guys that maybe they don't interact with
at all in the locker room, right, and now you
got to shoot, you got to share a room on
the road, and so it's a it's a different thing.
(29:16):
But I think one thing that helps the Broncos this
year so much is that they're winning.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Right. It's a hell of a lot Nate.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, there's a lot more fun to go to
work every single day when you're winning like they're winning.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, especially after you've gone Bo mentioned some of the
tough losses last year. You go through it together. You
experienced heartbreak together, you go through that adversity together, you
grow together, and then you you make sure that you
don't want to feel that again together, and you get closer,
I mean, and sometimes you know, things like the Broncos
went on that to the Niners this preseason, right, and
(29:48):
a bunch of stuff went wrong on that trip.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
No, but it was seventeen when time got rock.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Scene after the game, when he got back, Yeah, add
three more to the list. So those kinds of things,
when things don't go right, that's what actually, you know,
you build you build that camaraderie and they had to
sit on the tarmact for a bunch of hours or whatever.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
So may okay, we get closer. We went through this
together and the hotel was in the middle of right. Yes,
you know, I don't know. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Hey, I can still hear the rhythm about one thirty
in the morning. Oh really, yeah, you just wake up.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Man.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, I like that. That's
really good.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
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Speaker 4 (30:38):
Good text here.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
The show is so fun, but one of the most
fun things for me is hearing the player's perspective. You
guys have done that a lot today. Yeah, I mean
when we have the players in studio, like Nate Jackson
or with Dave's here, we obviously try to give you
that as much as we can. Some days are are
more specific for that, and sometimes it's going to be
Ben and Ben is going to say things that are
just you know, self serving. Anyway, five six six night
(31:00):
zero against our kaway comments bir a eltech side. You
know I think that both said on that sound by
it actually have some more Bonix tid to play a
little later on. But one of the things that I
thought towards the tail end of it is they you
talk a little bit about what people.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Say outside of the team and how well we might
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
We may keep winning or may lose, and you know,
we can't really be sort of monitoring that or chasing
it and following the trends of those kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I thought that was another kind of interesting point that
he made.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, and I think this is probably a point of
emphasis that Sean Payton makes to the team fairly frequently,
because look, I mean, we live in a in a
hyper sort of reactionary and involved sort of media landscape in.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Which everybody has these phones.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
And when I played, I didn't We didn't have I
mean I had a flip phone, you know what I mean,
Like there was no Internet on it.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
So I'm not seeing anything on my phone.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Other than the numbers of that, And so you don't
I don't hear anyone's opinion unless I'm turning on the
radio to a specific and I'm not, And.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
So you don't have to you don't get to see it.
You don't have to see any of it. But now
everybody has social media, and if.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Then go viral and the and you click on it once,
your algorithm says, how about some more how about some
more Ryan Edwards?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
How about some more Ben Albright for you come boy
too much already? And so all this and and what
do you.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Think Champagne's algorithm looks like? And then maybe if you
you know, some coaches use some of that.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I think Champagne uses some of it to gass up
his guys or to get him focused or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean, so this is this may be a stretch
for me here.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But Adam Troutman after the after the game, had I
had a viral moment talking about you know, Dragon Slayer
or whatever with an eleven slurpy cups.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Okay. Now, last year.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Champagne had this kind of meandering press or moment after
practice or something. But he said it was very similar
language about the seven eleven slurpy cups. Okay, And I
think probably Sean Payton was the guy who stood up
in front of them.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
And I don't care.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
About dragons Layer sixty nine and his seven eleven Slurpey
cups because Sean Payton likes Slurpery Cups.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Okay, they matter to him. He talked about collecting him
when he was a kid or whatever it was. Yeah,
you remember that, I do.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And so all of a sudden, Adam Truptman's talking about
seven eleven Slurpy.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Cups and he's been with and he's been with nobody
else I've heard. Well, I'm connecting the dots. You're very good,
very impressive, and I think that you know, Adam Troutman
is a guy who came from from New Orleans with him,
so I think he kind.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Of echoes a lot of the He's there.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
To echo what Sean Payton says, not just you know
the tactics, the routine. Here's what we're going to you
know how we do it. I've been there. I know
what he wants, but also his words, and I think
that's what we're seeing is some messaging that's intended to
get these guys focused and to block out the haters.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's working.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, whatever it is, And that's We talked about the
pulse of things earlier in the show, and we talked
about giving the team the entire week off. You got
to have that pulse and you got to be able
to push the right buttons at the right time, and
especially in the midst of, you know, an eight game
winning streak. Now you need to be able to push
the right buttons to keep them motivated. There was another
thing that Bonick said, and maybe when we come back,
(34:21):
I want to get into that just for a moment,
because he talked about why they are still motivated sort
of intrinsically because they still haven't played their best football,
and especially on the offensive side of the ball. And
I got to imagine some of those coaching sessions, some
of those film sessions, will humble you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And I want to get to that coming up next
We got football on the other side of all of this.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Of course, a big game coming up on Sunday for
the Chiefs and the Colts. We'll probably get to that
here in a little bit, but I want to ask you, David.
I didn get a chance to ask you this earlier
in the week. Sean gave the guys the full week off.
You like that, I mean, it is what it is.
But did you ever get a whole week off?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I don't think so, but I would say the way
they've played and where this by week comes, and I
think I think coaches usually have a pretty good sense
on like what their teams need, whether they're I mean,
you're you're going to be physically tired, You're going to
be beat up, but I think maybe just to kind
(00:45):
of recharge your battery and get away from it. I
was a little bit surprised they got the whole week,
but I'm you know, to me, he knows better than
anybody what the sort of the temperature and the pulse
of his team is.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, it feels like a pulse kind of thing. Did
you ever get a full week off?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Nate?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm trying to remember if we had to come back
the next day I think we might have done something
on Monday and then had the rest of the week
and then come back the following Monday, have Tuesday off,
and then a regular week. But I think Mike Shanahan's
subscribed to a similar approach. Let's let these guys get
out of here now. Of course they do the speech
(01:21):
before that. Yeah, don't do anything stupid, you know, take
care of yourself, to care of your body. Go have
some fun, but you recharge a battery. But don't go
so far away from the game mentally that you can't
get back. And I think that's the risk there, because
it's like the objects in motion tend to stay in
motion thing. Yeah, of course, and that week back, when
you get back, it's it's rough that first day.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Back when you when you're you know, they'll probably run you.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
A little bit. You're a little bit out of shape.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And some guys probably don't work, you know, don't touch
your weight for the week, and some guys do, and
so you have to recalibrate a little bit. So it
is a little tricky. But I think Sean Payton has
a good finger on the pulse.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You might have a little alcohol oozing out of your pores,
you know whatever. People do different things during the break,
I was looking at I was looking.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Around the room and that lazy guy.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
You know how that works?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I do wonder though, and this was a conversation I
had with Zach before the show. What can you accomplish,
I say, from a coaching staff standpoint, as far as
adjustments or things you want to do in the second
half or in this case, the final six weeks, Like
what kind of especially if the coaching staff also took
the week off, maybe you're not doing a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I guarantee you that did not happen. Okay, I guarantee you.
I mean, I'm listen. I've never coached in the NFL.
I'm a high school coach, but I would think that
they will use some of that time to go back
and self scout, to look at with a critical eye
what they've done, what they've done well, are there any
(02:50):
tendencies that we need to sort of break right? They'll
run all sorts of analytics. Hey, what you know, what
is there a formation that we use more than not
on the right hash Once we're in plus territory on
third ten and eight or more, I mean down to
sort of that that kind of detail. So I think
that's important. But you also, I think, and I think
(03:13):
a lot of head coaches are good at this, and
maybe some aren't. But you got to make sure your
staff is ready to go. I mean, I think you
have to be eminently aware of I mean, these guys
grind during the week. You know, they get in an
old dark thirty and they leave and it's dark forty five, right,
(03:34):
I mean, you get in as dark as you go home.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's dark. But I think you got to, you know,
for this playoff.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Push now, you want to make sure that staff is
re energized and focused and ready to go.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, there's such a psychological approach to it too, not
just X and o's. And it helps to have an
analytics department that's crunching those numbers and coming up with
some of those scenarios that Dave just mentioned. You know,
it doesn't have to be the coaches, you know, going
through that film and figuring out what what works and
what doesn't in these certain formations. They can get hand
on a piece of paper, right and figure it out.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean, the Broncos do a lot of the.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Different stuff personnel wise, So are they looking at what
was working from the different groups we're putting in and
maybe goutting out some of the stuff that wasn't But
the psychological approach not just to the players, but the coaches,
everybody in that building. You're gonna need everybody's best shot
going forward, So how do you get that you know,
and keep everybody.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
On the same page.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So let me ask you this one more on this,
and then I do want to ask you about last
night's game, because boy, that Broncos win over the Texans
now looks way different I think in retrospect. But if
you are Sean Payton and you're taking a look at
what your offense did here in the first eleven games
of the season, and you're thinking about in terms of
what you want to accomplish in the final six, what
are you thinking about like And again we're putting ourselves
(04:47):
inside his brain, which is maybe a bit scary, but
I'll just say, like this, when you say, well, I
gotta get better at run or you know some of
these route concepts, Maybe we need to get the ball
out of Bonix's hands a little faster. What are some
thing that you think he's seeing that he's like, okay,
well we can do this right now, or are things
that we're going to be looking on the offseason.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You mean from a from a scheme standpoint, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
A that's a hard question, honestly. I mean we I
consider up here and act like I know. I mean,
I would have ideas in terms of how I view
what they do, but I don't necessarily know for certain
that would be how Sean would view it. I would
look at that and say, we have to be more
efficient running the ball?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
All right? How how how do we do that?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
You?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I mean, they like their offensive line. Their offensive line
has graded out well the entire season.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Both in the run game and the pass game.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And yet now without Dobbins, the run game is going
to be a little.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Bit different, all right?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
How do we how do we carve up carries between
these backs?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Who are the backs?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Is Tyler Badet, who really was not in the sort
of the rotation against the Chiefs, is he back in
the rotation? Do we think Julie who I thought ran
well in limited opportunities against Kansas City, is he sort
of a wild card now in this run game?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
But I think you know, you look ahead and unless.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We're assuming they're going to make the playoffs, and let's
say you're playing into January, whether unless you go to
Houston or Indy, I guess, I mean, whether could be
a factor, could be a factor here, could be a
factor in Baltimore, could be a factor in Kansas City,
could be a factor in Buffalo, although they won't have
to go to Kansas City. But you have to have
the ability, I think to and it can be in
a really creative way. But you've got to be efficient
(06:33):
in the run game, and I just I haven't felt
like they've done that consistently.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, I think it's going to be it's going to
be an issue for them to figure out exactly what
Dave's talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
The loss of him is a tough one because remember
chan Paigne already had to write run it on his
play sheet last year. It's remind him to run the ball.
His tendency is to want to throw the ball. But
they went to Buffalo last year in the playoffs and
got absolutely pushed around because they or able to establish
that running game. Playoff football is more so about the
running game than the regular season is. I would also say,
(07:06):
you know, if they're going to self scout some of
the stuff that they've been doing. Sometimes it seems to
me that they don't set up the things that they're
trying to accomplish, like the double pass thing.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That they did with RJ. Harvey. They did a toss
to J.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
They don't do a lot of tosses at all, but
they've tossed it out there. Well, things look weird unless
you set them up. Let's run some tosses first. Let's
run the things first that we want to play off of.
And I feel like sometimes Sean is quick to want
to do the thing that plays off of something he
hasn't set up yet.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And so sometimes the first quarter, second.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Quarter woes the Broncos have had to me is because
you're not setting the precedent with an attack. Let's just
come off the ball and attack. Whether it's running the football,
whether it's direct passing game, quick passing game, Let's come
off the ball, make look everything look exactly the same,
and then as the game goes on, we can build
off of that. When we get guys turning their hips
because they're afraid we're going by them, We're afraid we're
going this way, and so you know, that's what I'm
(08:04):
looking at Yeah, but he's a last smarter than I am,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
He'll be the first to tell you as well. I
mean that with all due respect.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Back and forth with the media, like after the After.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
The Wind with Kansas City with Chris Thominson when he
was asking about JK.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Dobbson question he is, uh, I would I would say
that that was a little personicity.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
All right, Well, here here's the just in case people
missed it, here's Chris Thominson asking about JK.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Dobbins.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Sean, what can you say to us about JK dobbins
is injured situation?
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And if he updates, I'll keep you posting.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Is the after the season updates, I'll keep you posting.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
And then just next question with the running game to
next question your thoughts on the Running game?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Thought it was good, good enough?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
See but in fairness and that and that that was
short and he fired back. But here here's the deal.
And we all love Chris the head coach, which has
made it clear multiple times I'm not going to answer
any injury questions.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
He has said that like three or four times. Yes, So.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
When after a game, even a big game, a big win,
you fire with hey, what can you tell us.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
About the JK Dobbins injury?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean his eyes light up like that horse out
there right in front of d I A what's his name?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Oh, Blucifer?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, do you see those eyes?
But you do not want to look.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
It's like Lucifer fell on the dude that created it
and killed him, right, I believe so I've heard that
is true. I think that is true, and his son
finished the job.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I don't want to have a seance in this mug.
I'm just saying you're right. He has been very clear
about that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, you know, you know, you know you're being
on his corn flakes when you asked that.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It's just like, but what on ir the day before?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like, you're right?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But also that's it's relevant?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (10:07):
In that moment? So they just beat the chiefs and
JK wasn't out there, and he's not going to be
out there. Why are you asking about JK Dobbs Chris?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
But come on, man?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
And I think sometimes Sean has has sort of singled
out Chris, and I feel bad for Chris, But on
this one, I'm like, bro, you know you're about to
get slapped up around the head several times.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
What do you what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is you hear his interaction with Luca Evans, it's worth hearing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It is absolutely the.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Third quarter touchdown drive just looks like it looked like
you guys were moving quicker, a little bit more of.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That temple questions what you called? Did you did you run?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Did you did you go?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No?
Speaker 7 (10:46):
There were two, there were two, there were three plays.
Basically we compoed one. I felt sometimes you hurry to
beat maybe a challenge, and so anyway, next question.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Himself, Yeah, to say too much. Absolutely, he was about
to get into this like, uh, next question, next question. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's like he knows is coming, and yet he's still like, God,
you people, we can't pull questions.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
But he also mentioned in that in that press or
that the narratives you know around town, the way people talk,
the things people talk about, Yeah, they hear it, you know,
and it bugs them. And and he he instructs his
players not to mention it, not to talk about it,
but you guarant they talk about it in those meetings.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
They have to talk about it. I've been nothing but
effusive in my praise. So I know talk about you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, specific you got your picture up at the facility.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They're they're thrilled that I am carrying as much water. No,
I'm not so much. They can't be.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I picked them to beat the Chiefs. I picked them
to win all of these games are in the street
and including the Philadelphia game, I picked them to win
that game.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Next time you're out, like on Friday, next Friday, the open,
open locker room.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, let me know how that goes.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's like, is that in my head on a dartboard?
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Really?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It was like I didn't realize that was that big.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't think you're public enemy number one.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, no, no, I don't think so either. No, but.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's got to be ah no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Last night, I do want to ask you, man, what.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So First of all, as I said, the Broncos went
over the Texans in Houston, I think suddenly looks more impressive,
especially when you watch with Buffalo who Josh Allen was
sacked eight times. Here is the final tally aight sacks,
twelve quarterback hits, eleven TFLs, two interceptions of force, fumble
and a fumble recovery. Wow, that's what the Texans defense
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did to the Buffalo Bills offense. So in retrospect, I'm
very I'm even more impressed with the way the Broncos were.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Able to win that game.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Who do you feel like you learned more about last night?
Five Texans or Bills?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Like? Who do you? Oh? What do you think you
learned more? I mean the Bills. I think you always
have to.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Not qualified, but you've got to be realistic when you
look at a game like that. I mean, Buffalo was
missing a couple pretty good receivers, Dalton Knox, me and
one of them.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But I mean we knew Houston. I mean Houston's front four.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Houston defensively does not do a lot of crazy things,
but they just line.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Up and get after you.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Right, And if you if you can't run the ball
on Houston, then and you're gonna you're gonna drop back,
whether play pass or whatever, and throw the ball forty
five times. You know your tackles are gonna hate your
play caller. So and I thought Josh, I thought Josh,
and he even said after the game he ran himself
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into a couple of sacks.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I think Houston, I mean, I think Houston's a
good team. I mean that that would be I think
for anybody in the AFC, Houston in the postseason would
be a big challenge because of that defense.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, they looked relentless.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I mean that was pretty impressed of what they were doing,
especially along the front.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
They're eight sacks. Is that what she? Eight sacks?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Eight sax, twelve quarterback hits, eleven TFLs to interceptions in
a folm, I.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Mean eleven TFLs. Hello, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Mean the offensive line not playing a great game. There
no people talking this.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Today about the Houston Texans having the best defense in.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
The league, but I don't think that's the case. We
saw the Yeah, we saw the.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Broncos go toe to toe with them and looked like
the better defense out there, right And Pastor ten was
he playing in that He was not?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
And the Broncos beat him and look better on defense
and had the offensive performance that the Bills couldn't muster
against that defense. So I think it makes the Broncos
look pretty good. The Buffalo Bills were the team that
stomped on the Broncos in.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
The playoffs last year. They don't look like the same
team right now.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I do. Want to ask you guys about that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And we've talked about sort of the course of the week,
the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens kind of not looking
like the upper echelon teams were used to seeing. They
don't look as dominance. And that doesn't mean that they
won't show up in the postseason. It's just as we're
sitting here right now, the Ravens look like they have
their issues. Certainly, the Chiefs look like they have their issues,
and the Buffalo Bills do as well. But I don't
want to ask you about defenses and like what sort
of is the hallmark of the greatest defenses at the
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time or whatever, because Texas fans been in my mentions
all night. I did this to myself though because I
tweeted about.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It, but maybe all night telling me how great their
defense is compared to the Broncos and how much better
their defense is compared to the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
And is there They're qualifier, of course, is scoring defense.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Like they're saying, hey, this makes us the best defense
because we allow the fewest points.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, well, I think points allowed is a big stat
for a defense overall. I mean, the Broncos a couple
of games early. Both of those games on the road
against Indianapolis and the Chargers. They gave up whatever was
twenty eight or twenty nine against India and in the
twenties against the Chargers. I think both those defenses are
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I think Houston has the most comparable defense to the
Broncos when Certan is playing. I mean, Houston has two
corners that are really good, and when Pat plays, the
Broncos have i think at the best corner in the game.
And I'm still a guy that thinks Riley Moss is
a really good player.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
In this league.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So I like the safety play of the Broncos more
than I do of the Texans. So there's not a
lot to pick from between those two. I think, you know,
you know, going in you better find a way to
slow down those two edge guys. Well that's exactly what
you say when you play the Broncos too.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, the numbers are pretty comparable with those two defenses.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
I mean, you know, the Texans give up sixteen point
five points a game and the Broncos are seventeen point five.
It's one point. It's almost negligible there and yard it's.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
A big deal to Texans fans. I'm just gonna let
you know, for all the ones that I mentioned these.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Days, well, when they went head to head, the Broncos
were the better team.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
This is what I said.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I said, fire back on them, right, yeah, right, four
board exactly if flash Wu Tang's oh.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well, I think it was confusing to every way, go ahead.
It didn't work either way. Let's just put it that way.
They're still screaming at me.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
But anyways, screaming on Twitter, well, you know you type
in all caps caps, Yeah, a couple exclamation points and
some emojis, the middle finger, those guys, I.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Did you must have really stirred them up.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well yeah, I did you live for that? You absolutely
live for that? Why are you nodding along?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Anthony?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
No? Half your stuff fair?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I say live for.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It is a strong way to frame, and I think
that I understand what the medium is and I don't
back away from the tab.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I thought it was for intelligent nuance to discourse. I
thought that's what Twitter was. It's literally in the byline
Twitter or X or whatever they call these days. Yeah,
it's like intelligent discords.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
What did you say? I literally tweeted a gift, that's it.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
I didn't say anything else. I tweeted a gift and
they were unhappy about it.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Of a baby crying, Okay, so I can't imagine where
they would be upset with that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, it just just sort of a shrug, like, I
don't know about that. Didn't go well, but I won't
gay with it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And now and now, Texas fans are excited about seeing
the Broncos in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I can't wait to see you guys again. Yeah, we're
gonna be So here's the deal. It's Houston.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's Houston in a position now where they're they're going
to beat they're going to win their division. Jacksonville still well,
the cults are still I'm sorry, the cults are still there.
So Houston really, unless Indianapolis collapses, the best they can
do is be a wildcard team.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's exactly right. And Jacksonville is actually still ahead of
them at six and four. They're playing this weekend, So
it's Indianapolis eight and to Jacksonville six and four. Houston
is six and five. Houston's on the outside looking in
even WITHOU win.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So who are they right now?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
The two wildcard the three wildcard teams for the AFC
would be the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bills, and Jaguars. Those are three Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
The Chiefs are Chiefs, and Chiefs better find a way
to win Sunday.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
This is kind of it, I mean, not mathematically right.
And I agree though that this is this is as
big a game as they they've had in a long
time for a regular season game. And I don't know, man,
Chiefs fans are talking again Internet, they're talking a big game.
But I think if you pulled them, honestly, there's a
little bit of a worry about their identity right now.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
They can't really run the ball very well. And I
even trying, really, how many.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Teams have been to four consecutive Super Bowls? The Bills
I can think of. Yeah, I believe that. I believe
the Dolphins, did the Patriots in the early seventies.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Did the Patriots go to four in a row? That's
a good question we have to go. I can look
at that. Yeah. I mean it's hard.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I mean, it's the point of it is it's it's
hard to do Yeah, I mean really hard to do.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
This is a big game, as you as you talked about,
and I don't know for a moment before we get
to break. Who you got Chiefs or Colts.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I've not decided, but I would, And I know, you know,
looking at stuff today and watching stuff listening, a lot
of people, people that I respect their opinions are leaning
towards the Colts because they can run it, their offensive
line is great, Jonathan Taylor is having a superior year.
But if you ask me today, I would lean Kansas
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City winning that game.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I got the Colts, of course you do, which isn't
good news for the Broncos because you'd like you probably
like the Colts to lose.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I actually think that it could play out the best
of both worlds if the Colts.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Win and knock the Chiefs kind of out, like out
of it, out of it.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, And the Colts still, they have a tough schedule
ahead of them. They got to play the Texans after
the Chiefs. They play the Texans, they play the Jags,
they play the Seahawks, they play the Niners, they play
the Jags again, they play the Texans again.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Wow, you get the Texans twice, yeah, and the Jags twice. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Okay, so I think they're going to lose a couple
of those and they got the Niners and the Seahawks.
I mean, those are some formidable opponents there. As Gary
kubiak Wu was saying, we're fixing a fine out, I
can't wait for that. All right, we'll write back.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Okay, wayes to watch, but play of football, no doubt
about that.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
This was fun.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
On the text line, Please have Nate do some coach
paytent impressions today.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, so look, listen relative to personnel groupings like that.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Pretty good? Pretty good? Right, that's pretty good. Let me
stop you. So look, so we're gonna that's pretty good. Yeah,
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Every Friday, somebody, somebody texted says, all right, we need
it today, get fired up for the game.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
It's easier, easier.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
To do it when I hear him talk, like when
I listen to your guys' coach's corner. Right after that,
like when I actually hear him talk and I could
just kind of share it what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
But uh, very interesting voice.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And look it's there's some pauses when you know, and
that kind of thing that is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's that's the best one I've heard. Pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I wonder if Sean would like, can you say Evan
three times slowly.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Evan.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Evan, my name is Luca.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Hey. Did you catch any bout Nicks on Pat McAfee today.
I don't know if you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Honestly, I usually watched the Pat McAfee show, but did
not get a chance to do that today.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So they had Dan Lanning on there in organ for
the organ USC game, which is going to be really fun,
high flying offenses, all that kind.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Of bow up there getting ready to go to the game.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
No, he wasn't, which I thought he maybe maybe he
may still go. But they were interviewing Dan Lanning and
then they brought Bo Nixon and so he got tries
to talk to his old coach and that was kind
of a cool moment there, and then got into some
Broncos conversations.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
There was some really good answers.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
He was announced about the defense and how great they are,
but there was the final question was Mike was kind
of my favorite, and he was sort of asked about
how close the group is and if that's sort of
contributed to why they've been able to close out so
many games this year.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
Here's what he said, We actually do talk about how
close our team is. We just got a lot of
young guys. I mean, I think our oldest guys are
year eight, year nine. So we're just all in similar
stages of life. I think that's what makes us close.
But we also know what it was like last year.
We know it was like to lose some of these
close games, and so we have turned some of those around.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
We have had a better record in close football games
this year.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
But I do think it just goes back to the
you know, the confidence and the belief of the team.
We believe that we can win these games. We're not
going up and you know, I feel like last year
sometimes we like didn't expect or didn't think we were
gonna find a way to win at the end.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
And then after a couple of those games this.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
Year that went our way, we just kind of felt like, hey, guys,
we we got this.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
We can win these close games.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
We got really good defense that we can lean on,
we got offensive playmakers that are gonna make plays when
time comes.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
And then Will's done a great job in clutch time.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
And so when you look at our team, look at
how close we are, we just know what it can
be like on the other side. So we don't try
to get too focused up in the you know, the
the narrative or the perception we that can go so
many different ways.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
You're you're, you're exactly.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Right, and the you know, it's all about, you know,
the moment, and we get so stuck in the moment
where in a in another week, people will be saying
something totally different. So we try not to get too
caught up in the chaos of of what's going on outside.
We just try to you know, live within our building
and go to work every day, find ways to get
better that. There's so many you know, on clips or
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out there, that list of things that we have to
you know, grow and get better at. And I think
that's also what's keeping us a little bit urgent and hungry.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
We know we have these things to get better at,
and so we won't.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We don't really have.
Speaker 8 (25:10):
Time to sit around and act like we've you know,
made it, because we really haven't.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
We're just you know, we we're winning close games, and
that's what's put us in this situation right now.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Hell yeah, bo.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I kept that last part in it. That was such
a great response. Yeah, there's so much to take away.
I like the mindset shift from last year where they
he said that there were some games where they just
didn't expect to win or whatever, and so they just
didn't find a way to win.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
And this year then they had a couple of those games.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So we messed the Chargers game in the Colts game
where it didn't go their way, and they said, you know,
we could have won those games, and then.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
They've just shifted the mindset, so we will win those games.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, they're seven to two in one score games. They
were one and six last year. So and you and
I've talked about this before, and it's it's real. And
I think people that it may have never had the
unity to play, certainly in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Or maybe even in college or even in high school.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Confidence is such a powerful, powerful thing and people, you know,
some people would say, well, this is the NFL. I mean,
every one of those dudes has confidence. But I'm I'm
talking about something that you can't really measure, and I
don't know exactly where it comes from, but once you've
seen it and experienced it. I played on one team
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in the NFL one season, i should say, and we
experienced that. We had so many come from behind wins,
and you know, as three receivers you know, I knew
if Ozzie Knewsome made a big play in a game,
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I'm like, damn, I got to do something here to
make something happen at X and Reggie Rucker at Z
and so we just it just built, and so we
never got really rattled that you might be down. We
were down to the Steelers, and those guys were world
champions four out of six years. We're down to them
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by thirteen at home. I think going to the fourth quarter,
we just knew we were going to find a way
to win, and we did. So what bo is talking about,
I think is real. If you could find it and
bottle it and sell it at someplace, you'd own island. Yeah,
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I mean, I mean you literally would be the wealthiest
person in the world because it is powerful stuff.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
So when he's talking about how close they are, as
a coach who's coached so many years, you know, I'm
sure some teams the guys are closer than on other teams.
As a coach, do you try to facilitate that the
guys becoming close and becoming friends, Like, do you, you know,
try to get them together or encourage guys to hang
out outside, or how do you as a coach, or
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can you kind of push these guys to become closer,
to get to know each other better, to care about
each other more. Is there anything you can do or
is it just kind of you get lucky with a
group of guys that you have.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I think it's a little bit of both.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And I would say this again, my qualifier and something
like that is I always say, hey, I'm a high
school coach. You know, coaching in the NFL is different
because you're coaching grown men, young men. But yeah, I
mean you you. I think some teams just sort of
naturally sort of lean into being a closer team. You
try to do some things that, at least in the
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high school level that will get guys. I mean so like,
for instance, like on a road trip, when we've traveled
a couple of times, we have traveled, well one time
one time this year. So you do the rooming list,
and I want guys. I want seniors at a certain
position to be rooming with. If there's any ninth graders
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on the trip or sophomores, but not not in their
not in their comfort level right, not in their they're boys.
Like everybody has guys they hang with and I'm just
closer to these guys. I want those guys to get
to know these guys that maybe they don't interact with
at all in the locker room, right, and now you
got to shoot, you got to share a room on
the road, and so it's a it's a different thing.
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But I think one thing that helps the Broncos this
year so much is that they're winning.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Right. It's a hell of a lot Nate.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, there's a lot more fun to go to
work every single day when you're winning like they're winning.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yeah, especially after you've gone Bo mentioned some of the
tough losses last year. You go through it together. You
experienced heartbreak together, you go through that adversity together, you
grow together, and then you you make sure that you
don't want to feel that again together, and you get closer,
I mean, and sometimes you know, things like the Broncos
went on that to the Niners this preseason, right, and
(29:48):
a bunch of stuff went wrong on that trip.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
No, but it was seventeen when time got rock.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Scene after the game, when he got back, Yeah, add
three more to the list. So those kinds of things,
when things don't go right, that's what actually, you know,
you build you build that camaraderie and they had to
sit on the tarmact for a bunch of hours or whatever.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
So may okay, we get closer. We went through this
together and the hotel was in the middle of right. Yes,
you know, I don't know. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Hey, I can still hear the rhythm about one thirty
in the morning. Oh really, yeah, you just wake up.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Man.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, I like that. That's
really good.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
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Speaker 4 (30:38):
Good text here.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
The show is so fun, but one of the most
fun things for me is hearing the player's perspective. You
guys have done that a lot today. Yeah, I mean
when we have the players in studio, like Nate Jackson
or with Dave's here, we obviously try to give you
that as much as we can. Some days are are
more specific for that, and sometimes it's going to be
Ben and Ben is going to say things that are
just you know, self serving. Anyway, five six six night
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know I think that both said on that sound by
it actually have some more Bonix tid to play a
little later on. But one of the things that I
thought towards the tail end of it is they you
talk a little bit about what people.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Say outside of the team and how well we might
you know.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
We may keep winning or may lose, and you know,
we can't really be sort of monitoring that or chasing
it and following the trends of those kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I thought that was another kind of interesting point that
he made.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, and I think this is probably a point of
emphasis that Sean Payton makes to the team fairly frequently,
because look, I mean, we live in a in a
hyper sort of reactionary and involved sort of media landscape in.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Which everybody has these phones.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
And when I played, I didn't We didn't have I
mean I had a flip phone, you know what I mean,
Like there was no Internet on it.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
So I'm not seeing anything on my phone.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Other than the numbers of that, And so you don't
I don't hear anyone's opinion unless I'm turning on the
radio to a specific and I'm not, And.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
So you don't have to you don't get to see it.
You don't have to see any of it. But now
everybody has social media, and if.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Then go viral and the and you click on it once,
your algorithm says, how about some more how about some
more Ryan Edwards?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
How about some more Ben Albright for you come boy
too much already? And so all this and and what
do you.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Think Champagne's algorithm looks like? And then maybe if you
you know, some coaches use some of that.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I think Champagne uses some of it to gass up
his guys or to get him focused or whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean, so this is this may be a stretch
for me here.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But Adam Troutman after the after the game, had I
had a viral moment talking about you know, Dragon Slayer
or whatever with an eleven slurpy cups.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Okay. Now, last year.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Champagne had this kind of meandering press or moment after
practice or something. But he said it was very similar
language about the seven eleven slurpy cups. Okay, And I
think probably Sean Payton was the guy who stood up
in front of them.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
And I don't care.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
About dragons Layer sixty nine and his seven eleven Slurpey
cups because Sean Payton likes Slurpery Cups.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Okay, they matter to him. He talked about collecting him
when he was a kid or whatever it was. Yeah,
you remember that, I do.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
And so all of a sudden, Adam Truptman's talking about
seven eleven Slurpy.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Cups and he's been with and he's been with nobody
else I've heard. Well, I'm connecting the dots. You're very good,
very impressive, and I think that you know, Adam Troutman
is a guy who came from from New Orleans with him,
so I think he kind.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Of echoes a lot of the He's there.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
To echo what Sean Payton says, not just you know
the tactics, the routine. Here's what we're going to you
know how we do it. I've been there. I know
what he wants, but also his words, and I think
that's what we're seeing is some messaging that's intended to
get these guys focused and to block out the haters.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's working.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, whatever it is, And that's We talked about the
pulse of things earlier in the show, and we talked
about giving the team the entire week off. You got
to have that pulse and you got to be able
to push the right buttons at the right time, and
especially in the midst of, you know, an eight game
winning streak. Now you need to be able to push
the right buttons to keep them motivated. There was another
thing that Bonick said, and maybe when we come back,
(34:21):
I want to get into that just for a moment,
because he talked about why they are still motivated sort
of intrinsically because they still haven't played their best football,
and especially on the offensive side of the ball. And
I got to imagine some of those coaching sessions, some
of those film sessions, will humble you.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
And I want to get to that coming up next
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