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We have Broncos Country tonight coming up at the top
of the hour, looking forward to hearing what Ben has
to say. We got to CEU basketball coming up at
six thirty tonight, so that's going to be on the
other side as well. We're going to get to some
sound from Talanoa Hufanga who fired up the Cherry Creek
football team right before their win last week, and it
was also right before the Broncos Patriot Broncos Chiefs game
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as well before that. We have some breaking news here
and it looks like the forty nine ers might be
parting ways with Brandon Ayuk here very soon. Diana Rossini
and Michael Silver reporting that they just they just avoided
his guarantees for next year and after signing just fifteen
months ago a four year, one hundred and twenty million
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dollar extension. The forty nine Ers, according to sources, say
that he is fail that Ayuk has failed to attend
meetings and declined to participate in other team activities in
recent months, and the forty nine ers have grown in
recently frustrated with the receiver's lack of communication and so
as a response, they voided his guarantees for next year
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and beyond, asserting the absences amounted to a failure to
fulfill contractual obligations.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know, there's a time Dan, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
If you what you think about Brandon and au but
there was a time that he sort of was a
sending talent at the position. And yeah, I mean it
was a weird deal because he made a very public
that he thought he was due a really big contract,
you know, getting that big contract, and then he tore
as I'm looking it up here, his acl MCL and
meniscus in his right knee. And he's obviously not been bad.
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That was in October, late October versus the Chiefs, and
he hasn't been back on the field since. It's kind
of a weird deal. And I'm doing this in part
because everybody's going to do this. So if Brandon Auk,
who looks like he's needing a change of scenery and
gets released, do you have interest.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Now, Well, he's right, there would.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Have to be a lot of things that we'd have
to go over. Why are you missing meetings? What's going
on there? Now? That's been a contentious relationship. I guess
since he started the holdout, and there was a lot
of things said, you know, scrubbing the forty nine ers
from his social media and a lot of those things
that guys do when they're trying to get new contracts.
But how much of it is actually bad blood and
tension and that can't be mended even after a big
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check has given to him. You know, he had a
really good year in twenty twenty three, seventy five catches,
thirteen hundred and forty two yards, seven touchdowns. He was
the second team All Pro and that's what allowed him
to demand that money. But you know, an injury like that,
he's still not back. And I know now we have
this expectation that guys when they tear their acls are
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going to be back in eight or nine months because
some guys do that. But that's about a year a
little over a year, right, And it was a pretty
bad knee injury. I mean, I don't know if you
remember the play, but it was like dude crunch, right,
like like the Nick Chubb one where it's like, ow,
are you ever going to walk again? So every knee
injury is different, So you know, the knee aside I
think it's the issues with the team and not being
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able to be there with the guys or be going
through the stuff that you should be going through that
they're asking you to do. Football is a very you know,
you got to be with us. You gotta do what
you're asked to do. If you make it about yourself,
well we don't. You can't be here even if you're
really really talented. He had some really productive years, but
I think it was a product of the insanely efficient
offense he was on and the other guys on that
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offense who were more of a threat than he was,
and so he drew a lot of a single coverage
because he got Deebo Samuel, you got Christian McCaffery, and
you got George Kittle and a very effective running game
that you commit to. All of a sudden, you're the
single receiver exit receiver out there. You're gonna be wide
open a lot because there's gonna be single coverage and
everyone thinks you're gonna run and it's a really effective
play action. All of a sudden, he's wide open. There
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was a lot of really wide open stuff for Brandon Ayuk.
Now he caught the ball, he made some nice moves
he made, guys, miss he's a fantastic athlete, but I
would be pretty reluctant to try to sign him up here.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I think I'm probably with you on that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Again, it's because it's not the first time either, because
even his rookie season, he was having a hard time
getting on the field because he wasn't on the sert
page with Kyle Shanahan, right and so, and.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Then that's next offseason in camp they were kind of
trying to teach him a lesson and work his way
back here.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So, yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean, he's he's this is year six for him now,
so he should have learned those lessons. He's a veteran now,
you know, with a capitol V. That's exactly right. So
change of Scenearry.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Probably you've got a really good nucleus of the right
kinds of mindset of players right now in that building.
So you could look at it from one of two ways.
You could say, well, we incorporate him into our ecosystem
and he's going to learn to do it the right way.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right. Sometimes you take a player that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Needs just needs some some TLC right, and you bring
him in and now all of a sudden, he kind
of sees the right path here and maybe he just
wasn't feeling it out there with the forty nine ers
for over reason. I mean, he got a massive extension,
but after the fact that he was having drops. Even
before he towards ACL he was having some drop issues,
and everybody was saying, well, hey, if.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You're gonna be one of the great because he thought
he could.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Be one of the greatest forty nine ers of all time,
including Jerry Rice who played there, And so if you're
gonna be that guy, you've got to be that guy
every single week. So that's one side of it, is
you bring him in and the other side of it
like is it even worth a headache? And at this
point you could just go to the draft, you could
look at a free agency of other players that might
end up being there. Because the off season is going
to be a discussion about adding more talent on offense, right,
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We're gonna be talking about it in some form or fashion.
Offensive line probably needs to continue to be looked at,
which Sean Light likes to do, and then you're gonna
be looking at receivers certainly have been looking the tid
end position. I think you I'm not saying evit Ingram
was a miss, but he hasn't been I think is
what you expected him to be. Still could play a
big role down stretch though, And but you want to
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get younger there, you want to add some more talent.
I mean seeing some of the tight ends producing the
way they are this year out of the draft makes
me miss out on that a little bit. And then
you're probably looking at ride receiver. You're definitely gonna be
looking at running back. So yeah, I think it all
these guys end up being part of the conversation, including
Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And the Broncos track record with George Payton and Sean
Payton working together through the draft is really good. It's
very good. So let's just keep building that way. Bo
Nick's a young quarterback. We don't need a poison pill
coming in here who's a wild card and you don't
know how he's gonna react. You know, Sean Payton shipped
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Jerry Judy out because he has some of those tendencies himself.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
When you saw that presser that Jerry Judy gave you,
I absolutely did.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So you need a guy who when you're going through
hard times. Is not a bummer, you know, is a
guy who brings people up.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Talent is one thing, right, So Jerry Jew's a perfect example, right,
I mean, the talent's a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm sure as as a receiver. You watched his route
to me. Three of the routes aren't everything?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Not everything, no, no, but I'm even on the field
the route you got to finish the play.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
His hands are not good.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
His feet are you know, his feet are great, but
he doesn't have strong hands and he doesn't really break tackles.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And so you know, I'm not saying he's a bad players.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He's a productive player, but I don't think he was
worth you know, sacrificing your culture.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
For you know, and I think Brandon Ayuk would be.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm not saying he's the same attitude as Jerry Judy,
but if he's run a foul of the culture there,
which is a really strong one in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Those guys love playing for Kyle, right.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And they get paid really well if they do, and
it's a winning team. It's a winning team every year.
The owner treats them great. It's a good fan base,
they travel well, they've been super successful. They have some
of the best players in the world on that team,
and you can't show up for meetings after they give
you one hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yea twenty twenty six option bonus would have paid out
twenty four point nine million.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That go I've avoided today. It's talking about having a
bad day. Ouch. Yeah, that's he stood to earn oh Man.
I mean, yeah, the numbers here are just brutal. But
that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like, if all they're asking is you show up for
your rehab and they show up for the meetings, and
and you communicate with.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The staff, not answering your phone, not showing up, what
are we doing here? Come on?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay, And the text line basically has agreed with the
idea of passing on him.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's just so tough because you know, like I was
a huge Brandon Ayuk fan coming out of as Arizona State.
Like I knew that he had a chance to be
very special at the NFL level, But the personality stuff
was going to be one of those discussion points, and
so far it has sort of played out. Now, You're right,
Kyle Shanahan. If you can't play hard for Kyle Shanahan.
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I don't I don't know what I think this says
more about you really, Yeah, and you know, Sean Payden,
there's certain personality tests. It's just that's one of those
deals where if you have i'd given Courtland a sudden
the extension, I think this might be a little bit
stronger conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But she gave him the extension.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's going to be here obviously into next year, and
then I want to continue to see more. Pat Bryant
really quickly on this before we had to tell nooah
ivanga sound.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So Brandon Cooks is expected to be released soon. He
did not get released.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He was supposed to be released a couple days ago,
but then yesterday they decided to wait a beat to
see if maybe some teams will trade for him. You know,
it's that whole you float out, We're going to release
this guy and then see if teams call you all
of a sudden say, oh, don't release him yet, We'll
actually give you a sixth round or for him, you
know kind of thing. So Brenda Cooks will get released
at some point, and then who is it with the Texans?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The running back? Actually I have it right here. It was.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Pierce, Damian Pierce. So Damian Pierce, Brandon Cooks, you have
any interest there? I don't Okay, you're talking about for
this season? I don't know, Okay, And Damian Pierce, by
the way, cleared Waivers, Samian and Pierce would be more
intriguing to me than two hundred and twenty five to ten. Yeah,
he said he's five years old. He's had a few moments,
you know what I mean? But then what does that
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do to your rotation?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Who's who's now?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
You know? Is Julia McLoughlin now not going to play again?
Would you rather have Damian Pearce or Juliel for this?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Wrong? That's close.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, because of the body type, more so than anything
is I do feel like a bigger back that could
help you with some of those short yardage plays, especially
as the weather.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Starts to change. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
If you saw DeAndre Tillman making some moves after a
couple of those interceptions, maybe we.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Put him back there. I like, I appreciate that you're
smiling at least when you say live of course, I'm joking,
come on, he do it?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
He?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean, you're as a precedent for putting a big
boy back in the backfield, not necessarily given him the ball,
but the leads full black.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
William Perry the refrigerator, Yeah, the only football terminator. Don't
you remember him in the backfield. We're taking a and
off and scoring in the Super Bowl. Deandrey Tilman's gonna
score a touchdown in.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The Super Bowl. Anytime touchdown. That sounds like something Sean
would do.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, right, because he's already throwing a ball to Garrett Bowles, Okay,
try to get him a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
He's had r J.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Harvey throw a pass to bow Nicks. He wanted Courland
Sutton to throw a ball.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
R J.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Harvey.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It's gonna I mean, there's gonna be more trick plays
there are, and just who's gonna get it?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And when the Broncos are in the Super Bowl, that
would that would be exactly when Sean Payton does that.
That's such a Sean Payton thing, Like all of a sudden,
Dodre Tillman is like, I.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Just gonna wait to hear Dave's call of that, Like
Dodray Tilman about to pass.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's like heads off Tildan, Oh my gosh. Anyways, it's
gonna be a lot of fun. Okay, Talado, who fund me?
This is really fun.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
But the Broncos put this out on their social media channels,
just a little bit of go And he was in
the locker room giving a little bit of a pep
talk to the Cherry Creek Ruins right before their game
last weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And here's what it sounded like, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm doing of course, of course, right listen, whatever comes
naturally from you, that's good. We are absolutely good.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
The fact that I mean a guy loved you is
take the time to come and talk to high school kids.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's it doesn't get me better than that. How y'all doing, y'all?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Good?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Man? High school football?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Man, I'll tell you this, and this is something that's
always been special for me.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
High school football is where it starts.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Man, Like my dream was for an NFL player to
come to a game, for a college football player to
come in the game, because I was my dream and
I had.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
That dream since I was a kid.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
And it all starts with the details, though I kid
you not.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
We about to play the Kansas City Chiefs were about
to play Pat Maholmes like the best quarterback in the league,
the most generational player. But it all starts about the details.
And it doesn't matter how old you are, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
not to be a senior is all of about the details. Tonight,
everything you worked on, you practiced, man, coach got you
all right. So it's time to be out there by
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be aggressive. You got to hit somebody, put a face
mask on a face mask, let.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Them know that your Presidence's foe. So feel me.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So, like I said my teammates, man, it's time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
To lady Wood. Come on, creak on three. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's lady Wood, lady Wood, It's Grace. And that's before
they played the Chiefs. And I don't know, I I
dig that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Did you ever get a chance to go into a
high school locker room and fire guys up as a
pro football player.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I went to my old high school. Nice.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I went out there and jazzed them up a
little bit before the before the game. They won, right,
I don't remember what I don't Oh god, this.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Was years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I bet we could look it up though, if you
remember the day. I mean, I don't remember the day.
I don't remember the year. I don't remember the game,
I don't remember the opponent. Play a lot of football
since then, I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, I haven't. This is when I was done playing.
Oh you were done? Okay, you haven't played for fifteen years?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Over that? Well, I don't know. I was wondering if
you ever did it as a current play as a
current player. It's fuzzy, man, when that happened.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Was it was probably towards the end of my career
or soon after it was over, because you know, I
would usually be in the middle of a season, right, Yeah,
and I would have to be home for the bye
week and.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Go to the game. And I don't remember ever doing that.
I do like and like we have some players.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Scara Bolls does some stuff with Legend, and you know,
there's some some current players that are kind of into
the high school.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Football see, which is actually really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I think that's a as a cool thing to for
these young players to be able to see, right because
they all came from high school at some point playing
football and then into college and then eventually the pros
and the path to that and what it takes to
sort of make it to that because maybe these high
school players have that as a dream and maybe they.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Have other things that they will ultimately want to do.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But I gotta imagine it's gonna be kind of cool
to see like current NFL safety, Oh yeah, leading the
team in tackles. Tell and know whufanga is in our
locker room right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And when you look back on your high school high
school football is a special time, you know in your life.
Obviously you're going through high school normal stuff, but you're
meeting friends that are going to be friends with for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Memories that you cherished forever.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I remember specific games, specific plays, They'll be burned in
my memory for the rest of my life. Those are
really formative years and formative relationships. The coaches you have,
they are like father figures.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know. You learn how to work hard.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Together, you learn how to be tough, you learn how
to be accountable. Football taught me, and it was high
school football, in particular, how to be accountable, how to
show up every day and work hard, not cut corners,
be responsible, study, I mean all that stuff football really
teaches you and galvanizes it because you know, in other sports,
if you slack off, you know, get knocked on your butt,
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you don't get hurt, and you don't get your buddy
hurt either, And so if I let down, I could
get you hurt. And football teaches you so many valuable lessons.
And that's really when it starts to crystallize is in
high school. And so I have so many fond memories
of high school football, and I imagine a lot of
folks listening right now do as well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That stick with you forever.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And so, you know, I don't know who Fongo was
feeling that when he stepped into that locker room, and
there was more of that video when he talked about
how nervous he was going in there and talking to
those kids, right yeah, I mean, you know, he's a
professional football player at the top of his craft, and
he's getting nervous going and talking to these kids about
to play this high school game because it matters that much,
and you can feel how important it is to everyone,
and so pretty cool that he took time out of
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his day to go do that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, again right before the nights before I guess, a
couple nights before one of the biggest games of the season.
And again sort of encapsulating that and no one, especially
because the Broncos were going into that game shorthanded.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That was, as you and I talked about last Friday,
one of the sort of tipping points of why you
thought that the Chiefs ultimately might prevail.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, I didn't say that. Well you did say that.
He said, come on, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Try throw you to the bus and just say one
of us believes, and one of us or not. That's all,
And so U and one of us, despite the fact
they were gonna be missing JK. Dobbins and Pat Sertan
and Alex Singleton, thought they would rise above that, and
other people thought they would fold, and so you And
it's just easy specific. I'm just saying some people you
thought that because they were going to be missing all
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of these key players, it was going to be too much.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I wanted to see him beat the Chiefs and I
got to see that, and now I believe that they
will again. Now, like I told you at the beginning,
are you looking at me like that? I'm just I'm
just waiting for you're looking at me like you look
at your daughter when she's like finally like reciting the
lesson back to you.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That you've just taught her. What did I say? What
are you gonna do? What you do?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But what I won't pick against the Broncos at all
the rest of the season. There's not a single game
I think they'll lose or should lose. Will they lose one?
Maybe I will not pick against them ever again.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Six nine zeros okay with common spirit health text line
Nate's Jackson Ryan Edwards with you for a few more minutes.
Hope everybody's excited about their weekend. You got Thanksgiving coming up.
On the other side of all the things you guys
do will offer of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Just eat man eat and Washington football.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I'm a big pie guy, so this is like, you know,
pie season for That's what's the best pie?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, you know, pumpkin pie is kind of the classic.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
My father was a pie maker, so he make pies
all the time, like as a job.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
He could have. He was that good at it.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It was his favorite pie. That's a apple pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I mean, he's from the old school. So like mince meat,
have you ever had a mince meat pie? If not,
but I've heard about him.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Obviously, an original mince meat pie is actual meat in it.
Now the newer iterations of mince meat pie don't have meat,
they have like spices and raisins and things like that.
But he would make one of those every once in
a while. But my dad loved rhubarb.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I liked. Yeah, So if you no.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
One else likes rubarb, well, what I'm saying is, if
you make a rhubarb pie, you might be eating it
by yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right now. You can do a strawberry rhubarb pie.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I guess rubarb used to grow wild where he grew
up in Washington, near Wanatchi. But he made all kinds
of pies depending on the time of year. But around
this time of year, I have a hard time going
to the grocery store and not coming home with.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
A Piecuse it's like pie season right for me.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And so so I'm excited about maybe some pies. On Thanksgame,
We're gonna go to a friend's house. There's gonna be
a couple of families there and some football, some family
and some fun.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You didn't mention the goat pie, which is pecan. Really,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Pecan someone your own size, man, I'm not really, I'm
not into I'm not It's a pecan pie. I'm surprised, well,
because there's like that custardy, weird, gelatinous stuff underneath it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
It's like phenomenal, is it? Yeah? It text like can
help me out?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Listened?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Listen as an adult, as an adult who doesn't need to,
you know, I don't go as far as to say,
like Ben calls pumpkin pie baby food.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Oh come on, I think that's unnecessary. Kind of like
pumpkin pie too, yello putting anything that's sort of that
would that all be baby food? He doesn't have heard
Ben and Nick talking about food before they had some
of the more ridiculous takes I'd ever heard. I almost
pulled the car over and turned around, like what. I
forget what it was, but it was absurd.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Completely agree, Yeah, on all points, some of the most absurd,
ridiculous takes.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
When it comes to food.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
But yeah, anytime you know, and I've talked about pie,
because it comes up, you know, you talk with your.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Guys, you talk about pie. Eventually the pie is awesome. Can, yes,
but guys get together, we talked about pie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So I yeah, I'm a a Pecan, but I wasn't
always a pecan pie person.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
My dad was a big on pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So eventually and you sort of passed things down to
your your sons, if you will, and the pecan pie
became a thing that But I was I was pumpkin
growing up. I was so But now I just whatever
you put a pine in front of me, I'm probably
gonna be excited about it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, And the crust is really important.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
It's extremely important, especially for you know, I understand Ben's
point about the texture, but that's why the crust is
important to offset that texture.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Right. So, and then you know a sizeable amount of
whipped cream on the to us.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
In fact, if you don't have whipped cream, and it's like,
what do we what are we savages here?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Like we Actually my dad would say the opposite, like
he would kind of like he's a purious.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He's more of a purist when it came to that.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know, back in the day, they used to like
eat apple pine with like a piece of cheese.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, it sounds nasty, I've heard of it. Yeah, no,
thank you, I'm good. No, but if you give me
one slice of apple, one slice of pumpkin, I'll be
a happy guy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, Yeah, no pushback from me on that. Yeah, I
just would you know, say, hey, as you tend to continue.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
To develop your taste, U it's you know what, like
I'm finding one of my kids.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Listen, you're you're too young to understand this now.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, but as you get older, you'll appreciate a really
good pecan pie, like like a bourbon pecan pie is bourbon.
Oh my goodness, Oh goodness. We made a chocolate bourbon
pecan pie one year. Oh gosh, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Really, it's actually just a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Much chocolate, vanilla, custard, bourbon strawberry pecan pie.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It was delicious, and afterwards I had diabetes.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's just it could be a fudations thing or maybe
it just happened by by tapistance or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
But anyways, well, I hope everybody has a fun.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm a big on on the football part of watching
a lot as much football as possible. We usually go
over to my in laws, who are musicians, so I
have to like say, hey, is it a ky we
have the football onto the background, you know, kind of because.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We don't it's not a focal brand, so that it's
on mute.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I imagine, are you are you the only ones sitting
in front of the TV with a beer. Yes, are
people playing music sometimes? Yeah, yeah, sometimes, But it's just
more about the conversation and hanging out to you, which
is fine, which say, hey, listen, that's Thanksgiving. Yeah, so
for everybody, yea.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Their Thanksgiving is a lot more of we're hanging out together.
But but they understand. And I get to use the
I do this for a living, so I have to
watch these games, even though for me, I want to
watch them as well. Don't tell my wife that, but
I want to watch them as well, And but I
also get to lean on that, like, hey, I have
to I have to know what's.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Going on with these games. Oh so you know, I listen.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Fantasy is involved, like you know, I mean checking your phone.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm sorry, guys, I'm really sorry, but if you don't
mind just having it on the background, i'd be great.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You play Fantasy football right? Too much? How often do
you check it? Like what on Sunday? Are you?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Are you like every fifteen minutes, every five minutes kind
of a guy? Or are you like every three hours
just to see the big jump?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Really want to be honest here because it's too often.
It's way too often. Like I'm actually like, generally you
get a notification every point.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, I mean kind of kind of.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm like, I'm on a three yard run, Yes, you wait,
three points.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Kind of if.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's a close match, it could of it's a game
of inches.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, yes, yeah, you would know, yeah, probably better than
I Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Interestingly, as an athlete or as a professional athlete, one
of the biggest transitions for me was the holidays.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And you know, my.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Whole childhood, high school, college, you go home. You know,
I go home for Thanksgiving, I go home for Christmas.
All of a sudden, I'm playing in the NFL, and
I don't get to do that. You know, You're you're
with your team, You're with your new family and your coaches.
It's up to them, and they're discretion on how much
time they're going to give you.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Do they let you go early?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know, do they have something Thanksgiving themed? For the
guys who are in town who are just single and
don't have anywhere to go.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Where do they go? So it is a transition, and
it can be a lonely time too.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's why you got to lean on and hope you
have a real strong community in your locker room and
at your team, and I imagine they really do.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
They have a plan. I'm sure the wall they're going to.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Do something, you know, for these guys, and they need
it because you need that family. I mean, this is
the time of year where you want to be around
those you love.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, there's a practice schedule for Thanksgiving on for the Broncos,
and then of course they're playing on Christmas Day, yeah,
Christmas night, yeah in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, so you're spending Christmas even a hotel in Kansas City,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You know, Like, how does Santa Claus come down that chimney?
I don't even know the logistics of that blow my mind.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So you're stalking on room four point thirty two and
they're gonna, well, I.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Guess the lost patser tad when we have a laud
that week, we'll be like, hey, man, so what's the
plan there?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Bring the stocking with you, you hang it hanging at
the holiday And they probably stayed on a nicer hotel
to that, but.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
They're staying in the nicest ones probably four seasons stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, well, especially Christmas.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I means Christmas one yeah, weak, yeah, if you.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That'd be a depressing Christmas if you go stay in
a bad hotel and lose the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And yeah, but they're not going to lose the Chiefs
because you're gonna pick them the rest of the season.
Oh I will, yeah. Yeah, They've proven it to me.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Even the Chiefs, even the Chiefs game at Arrowhead, you're
picking the Broncos, I will.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, I mean, obviously we don't know what
will be at stake at that point.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's a month over a month away.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Chiefs might be on a run, Broncos might be struggling
opposite my Broncos might have not had lost Chiefs you know,
might lose five.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Straight before that.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But the Chiefs would love to play spoiler to the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Like, no matter what happens, you're right, that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
However, I think the Broncos are the better team now
and I've seen that with my own two eyes, and
I feel pretty confident that the Broncos have their number now.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
What if is oarrow world though, by the way, but
with all the expectations of the season, and this is
one of the reasons why the NFL is so great,
But to say the Chiefs might play spoiler to the Broncos. Yeah,
when the schedule came out in May, we're talking like, hey,
that game. I think we were saying at the time
that game might be the difference in the division. Yeah, Like,
if you're with an opportunity to play for the division,
(27:02):
you're saying that game might be the difference of you
being the division winner the Chiefs being the division winner.
Nobody and absolutely nobody out there is thinking that game
on Christmas Day at Arrowhead, That's where the Chiefs try
to get the revenge and try to spoil the Broncos
getting the one seed. It's a beautiful world. Into is
a beautiful world. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Got a holiday week coming up. We're gonna be on a.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday next week and of course Thanksgiving me
on Thursday, and then Friday will be off basement all
bright Broncos Country Tonight, coming to the top of the hour,
high Bend.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
How's it going good? You got to an abbreviated.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Program with CEU basketball, see you Buffman's Basketball.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I would ask you what's coming up on your show?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
But thirty minutes of abbreviated Broncos country tonight.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Uh did you see the brand AYUK stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
What what's happen coming there? They're gonna avoid the guarantees.
He'll be gone on to the end of the year.
We'll go avoid everything and it'll be gone the end
of the year. What's uh, what's his future look like
in the league?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It'll be a starter somewhere. Okay. You know that's the
thing Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
You know, maybe they've been sniffing around for another receiver
for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
They sniff around here.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
They're diiffer on Courtland Sutton quite a bit, but they
haven't been able to land anybody opposite you know, dk
D kay I take the top off. They want somebody
to work the middle, and so you know they need
to find receiver to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
He might fit there. Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, we were sort of chopping it up earlier. Didn't
feel like it would be a good personality fit here here.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh he's not coming here. Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm saying,
doesn't Bill?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Okay, Sorry, I didn't know you were asking a relationship
that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, we asked that question everywhere every time. Here's a
player happening every time there's a player available, as the question.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That comes up, No, he's not coming here.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So before we we're actually gonna do a college football game,
we're gonna do the organ game coming up for our Show.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Me the Money. Just final Thoughts Colts Chiefs we were
talking about a little bit earlier. It's obviously a big
game in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You're on the Chief's side of that, And is that
a belief that the Colts are And obviously fraud feels strong,
but maybe the Colts aren't is good as the record
would maybe indicate, because generally an eight and two team
taken on a five and five team, even on the road,
you'd probably lean the direction of the team that has
a better record.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, it is a little bit of that. I'm not
completely sold on the Colts.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
They're they're playing fantastic, Daniel Jones is playing great, they
score thirty two points a game, very strong running game,
potential MVP and Jonathan Taylor that said, I don't fully
believe in them yet.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And I think the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
At home are a tough draw, and they're going to
be mad, and and it's they're kind of their last
gasp effort here, and I think they're going to find
a way to be the Colts.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
How do you feeling about it, Ben, Colts outdoors you
picked the other team.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, So it's kind of just more of Daniel Jones
and Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I mean, I'm with what they said and that analysis
I think is asprecient. But the added factor is the
cults are terrible outdoors. I mean, they just are, you know,
that's that's I don't know what it is, but they're
They're so used to that dome and and so yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I'm on the Colts side of it, just for the
not not rooting interest, but just more of a thinking
that the running game and the fact that the Chiefs
really haven't really tried to have one versus the Colts
can lean on that and they have the best.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I arguably the best running back in the game. Yeah,
I and I agree with that. I still I just
I don't know. I just don't think Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Outdoors in the cold and arrowhead on the road. I
just I'm not I'm not buying. Well, the trend would
agree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Dani Jones had a couple tough weeks and we probably
want Kansas City to win this game.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean mathematically.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I know certain people are feel icky about rooting for
the Chiefs for Sobroncos, but I'm a pragmatist. So I mean, like,
looking at the math here, you want the Colts to lose,
and that's that's probably where it's headed.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, I ham it for the one seed. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And then last night, I think the Texans Texas winning
was kind of interesting as far as the math. They
didn't really it only like two percentage points off of
the Chiefs Mills.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I got to give some props, man. I was like
that every time. I'm like, the Texans don't have the firepower.
They get back there and then they just keep finding
ways to win with the right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So is there a quarterback controversy in Houston? I mean
there might need to be, right, I.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Think there should be.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, if I'm being honest, like that offense operates
better with Davis Mills.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, or at least c J.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Take your time, man, I don't I don't know if
you've passed that that dube we're going to see a
double there.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No forefingers and now you're wrong
Text line if you want to interact with us.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We have Broncos Country tonight coming up at the top
of the hour, looking forward to hearing what Ben has
to say. We got to CEU basketball coming up at
six thirty tonight, so that's going to be on the
other side as well. We're going to get to some
sound from Talanoa Hufanga who fired up the Cherry Creek
football team right before their win last week, and it
was also right before the Broncos Patriot Broncos Chiefs game
(00:24):
as well before that. We have some breaking news here
and it looks like the forty nine ers might be
parting ways with Brandon Ayuk here very soon. Diana Rossini
and Michael Silver reporting that they just they just avoided
his guarantees for next year and after signing just fifteen
months ago a four year, one hundred and twenty million
(00:46):
dollar extension. The forty nine Ers, according to sources, say
that he is fail that Ayuk has failed to attend
meetings and declined to participate in other team activities in
recent months, and the forty nine ers have grown in
recently frustrated with the receiver's lack of communication and so
as a response, they voided his guarantees for next year
(01:07):
and beyond, asserting the absences amounted to a failure to
fulfill contractual obligations.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know, there's a time Dan, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
If you what you think about Brandon and au but
there was a time that he sort of was a
sending talent at the position. And yeah, I mean it
was a weird deal because he made a very public
that he thought he was due a really big contract,
you know, getting that big contract, and then he tore
as I'm looking it up here, his acl MCL and
meniscus in his right knee. And he's obviously not been bad.
(01:38):
That was in October, late October versus the Chiefs, and
he hasn't been back on the field since. It's kind
of a weird deal. And I'm doing this in part
because everybody's going to do this. So if Brandon Auk,
who looks like he's needing a change of scenery and
gets released, do you have interest.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Now, Well, he's right, there would.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Have to be a lot of things that we'd have
to go over. Why are you missing meetings? What's going
on there? Now? That's been a contentious relationship. I guess
since he started the holdout, and there was a lot
of things said, you know, scrubbing the forty nine ers
from his social media and a lot of those things
that guys do when they're trying to get new contracts.
But how much of it is actually bad blood and
tension and that can't be mended even after a big
(02:26):
check has given to him. You know, he had a
really good year in twenty twenty three, seventy five catches,
thirteen hundred and forty two yards, seven touchdowns. He was
the second team All Pro and that's what allowed him
to demand that money. But you know, an injury like that,
he's still not back. And I know now we have
this expectation that guys when they tear their acls are
(02:47):
going to be back in eight or nine months because
some guys do that. But that's about a year a
little over a year, right, And it was a pretty
bad knee injury. I mean, I don't know if you
remember the play, but it was like dude crunch, right,
like like the Nick Chubb one where it's like, ow,
are you ever going to walk again? So every knee
injury is different, So you know, the knee aside I
think it's the issues with the team and not being
(03:07):
able to be there with the guys or be going
through the stuff that you should be going through that
they're asking you to do. Football is a very you know,
you got to be with us. You gotta do what
you're asked to do. If you make it about yourself,
well we don't. You can't be here even if you're
really really talented. He had some really productive years, but
I think it was a product of the insanely efficient
offense he was on and the other guys on that
(03:29):
offense who were more of a threat than he was,
and so he drew a lot of a single coverage
because he got Deebo Samuel, you got Christian McCaffery, and
you got George Kittle and a very effective running game
that you commit to. All of a sudden, you're the
single receiver exit receiver out there. You're gonna be wide
open a lot because there's gonna be single coverage and
everyone thinks you're gonna run and it's a really effective
play action. All of a sudden, he's wide open. There
(03:49):
was a lot of really wide open stuff for Brandon Ayuk.
Now he caught the ball, he made some nice moves
he made, guys, miss he's a fantastic athlete, but I
would be pretty reluctant to try to sign him up here.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I think I'm probably with you on that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Again, it's because it's not the first time either, because
even his rookie season, he was having a hard time
getting on the field because he wasn't on the sert
page with Kyle Shanahan, right and so, and.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Then that's next offseason in camp they were kind of
trying to teach him a lesson and work his way
back here.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
So, yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean, he's he's this is year six for him now,
so he should have learned those lessons. He's a veteran now,
you know, with a capitol V. That's exactly right. So
change of Scenearry.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Probably you've got a really good nucleus of the right
kinds of mindset of players right now in that building.
So you could look at it from one of two ways.
You could say, well, we incorporate him into our ecosystem
and he's going to learn to do it the right way.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right. Sometimes you take a player that.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Needs just needs some some TLC right, and you bring
him in and now all of a sudden, he kind
of sees the right path here and maybe he just
wasn't feeling it out there with the forty nine ers
for over reason. I mean, he got a massive extension,
but after the fact that he was having drops. Even
before he towards ACL he was having some drop issues,
and everybody was saying, well, hey, if.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You're gonna be one of the great because he thought
he could.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Be one of the greatest forty nine ers of all time,
including Jerry Rice who played there, And so if you're
gonna be that guy, you've got to be that guy
every single week. So that's one side of it, is
you bring him in and the other side of it
like is it even worth a headache? And at this
point you could just go to the draft, you could
look at a free agency of other players that might
end up being there. Because the off season is going
to be a discussion about adding more talent on offense, right,
(05:37):
We're gonna be talking about it in some form or fashion.
Offensive line probably needs to continue to be looked at,
which Sean Light likes to do, and then you're gonna
be looking at receivers certainly have been looking the tid
end position. I think you I'm not saying evit Ingram
was a miss, but he hasn't been I think is
what you expected him to be. Still could play a
big role down stretch though, And but you want to
(05:57):
get younger there, you want to add some more talent.
I mean seeing some of the tight ends producing the
way they are this year out of the draft makes
me miss out on that a little bit. And then
you're probably looking at ride receiver. You're definitely gonna be
looking at running back. So yeah, I think it all
these guys end up being part of the conversation, including
Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And the Broncos track record with George Payton and Sean
Payton working together through the draft is really good. It's
very good. So let's just keep building that way. Bo
Nick's a young quarterback. We don't need a poison pill
coming in here who's a wild card and you don't
know how he's gonna react. You know, Sean Payton shipped
(06:37):
Jerry Judy out because he has some of those tendencies himself.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
When you saw that presser that Jerry Judy gave you,
I absolutely did.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So you need a guy who when you're going through
hard times. Is not a bummer, you know, is a
guy who brings people up.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Talent is one thing, right, So Jerry Jew's a perfect example, right,
I mean, the talent's a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm sure as as a receiver. You watched his route
to me. Three of the routes aren't everything?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Not everything, no, no, but I'm even on the field
the route you got to finish the play.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
His hands are not good.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
His feet are you know, his feet are great, but
he doesn't have strong hands and he doesn't really break tackles.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And so you know, I'm not saying he's a bad players.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
He's a productive player, but I don't think he was
worth you know, sacrificing your culture.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
For you know, and I think Brandon Ayuk would be.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm not saying he's the same attitude as Jerry Judy,
but if he's run a foul of the culture there,
which is a really strong one in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Those guys love playing for Kyle, right.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
And they get paid really well if they do, and
it's a winning team. It's a winning team every year.
The owner treats them great. It's a good fan base,
they travel well, they've been super successful. They have some
of the best players in the world on that team,
and you can't show up for meetings after they give
you one hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yea twenty twenty six option bonus would have paid out
twenty four point nine million.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
That go I've avoided today. It's talking about having a
bad day. Ouch. Yeah, that's he stood to earn oh Man.
I mean, yeah, the numbers here are just brutal. But
that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like, if all they're asking is you show up for
your rehab and they show up for the meetings, and
and you communicate with.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The staff, not answering your phone, not showing up, what
are we doing here? Come on?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay, And the text line basically has agreed with the
idea of passing on him.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's just so tough because you know, like I was
a huge Brandon Ayuk fan coming out of as Arizona State.
Like I knew that he had a chance to be
very special at the NFL level, But the personality stuff
was going to be one of those discussion points, and
so far it has sort of played out. Now, You're right,
Kyle Shanahan. If you can't play hard for Kyle Shanahan.
(08:51):
I don't I don't know what I think this says
more about you really, Yeah, and you know, Sean Payden,
there's certain personality tests. It's just that's one of those
deals where if you have i'd given Courtland a sudden
the extension, I think this might be a little bit
stronger conversation.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But she gave him the extension.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
He's going to be here obviously into next year, and
then I want to continue to see more. Pat Bryant
really quickly on this before we had to tell nooah
ivanga sound.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So Brandon Cooks is expected to be released soon. He
did not get released.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
He was supposed to be released a couple days ago,
but then yesterday they decided to wait a beat to
see if maybe some teams will trade for him. You know,
it's that whole you float out, We're going to release
this guy and then see if teams call you all
of a sudden say, oh, don't release him yet, We'll
actually give you a sixth round or for him, you
know kind of thing. So Brenda Cooks will get released
at some point, and then who is it with the Texans?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The running back? Actually I have it right here. It was.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Pierce, Damian Pierce. So Damian Pierce, Brandon Cooks, you have
any interest there? I don't Okay, you're talking about for
this season? I don't know, Okay, And Damian Pierce, by
the way, cleared Waivers, Samian and Pierce would be more
intriguing to me than two hundred and twenty five to ten. Yeah,
he said he's five years old. He's had a few moments,
you know what I mean? But then what does that
(10:09):
do to your rotation?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Who's who's now?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
You know? Is Julia McLoughlin now not going to play again?
Would you rather have Damian Pearce or Juliel for this?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Wrong? That's close.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, because of the body type, more so than anything
is I do feel like a bigger back that could
help you with some of those short yardage plays, especially
as the weather.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Starts to change. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
If you saw DeAndre Tillman making some moves after a
couple of those interceptions, maybe we.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Put him back there. I like, I appreciate that you're
smiling at least when you say live of course, I'm joking,
come on, he do it?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
He?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean, you're as a precedent for putting a big
boy back in the backfield, not necessarily given him the ball,
but the leads full black.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
William Perry the refrigerator, Yeah, the only football terminator. Don't
you remember him in the backfield. We're taking a and
off and scoring in the Super Bowl. Deandrey Tilman's gonna
score a touchdown in.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
The Super Bowl. Anytime touchdown. That sounds like something Sean
would do.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, right, because he's already throwing a ball to Garrett Bowles, Okay,
try to get him a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
He's had r J.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Harvey throw a pass to bow Nicks. He wanted Courland
Sutton to throw a ball.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
R J.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Harvey.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It's gonna I mean, there's gonna be more trick plays
there are, and just who's gonna get it?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And when the Broncos are in the Super Bowl, that
would that would be exactly when Sean Payton does that.
That's such a Sean Payton thing, Like all of a sudden,
Dodre Tillman is like, I.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Just gonna wait to hear Dave's call of that, Like
Dodray Tilman about to pass.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
It's like heads off Tildan, Oh my gosh. Anyways, it's
gonna be a lot of fun. Okay, Talado, who fund me?
This is really fun.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
But the Broncos put this out on their social media channels,
just a little bit of go And he was in
the locker room giving a little bit of a pep
talk to the Cherry Creek Ruins right before their game
last weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And here's what it sounded like, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I appreciate you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm doing of course, of course, right listen, whatever comes
naturally from you, that's good. We are absolutely good.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
The fact that I mean a guy loved you is
take the time to come and talk to high school kids.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's it doesn't get me better than that. How y'all doing, y'all?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Good?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Man? High school football?
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Man, I'll tell you this, and this is something that's
always been special for me.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
High school football is where it starts.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Man, Like my dream was for an NFL player to
come to a game, for a college football player to
come in the game, because I was my dream and
I had.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
That dream since I was a kid.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
And it all starts with the details, though I kid
you not.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
We about to play the Kansas City Chiefs were about
to play Pat Maholmes like the best quarterback in the league,
the most generational player. But it all starts about the details.
And it doesn't matter how old you are, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
not to be a senior is all of about the details. Tonight,
everything you worked on, you practiced, man, coach got you
all right. So it's time to be out there by
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be aggressive. You got to hit somebody, put a face
mask on a face mask, let.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Them know that your Presidence's foe. So feel me.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So, like I said my teammates, man, it's time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
To lady Wood. Come on, creak on three. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's lady Wood, lady Wood, It's Grace. And that's before
they played the Chiefs. And I don't know, I I
dig that.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Did you ever get a chance to go into a
high school locker room and fire guys up as a
pro football player.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I went to my old high school. Nice.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, I went out there and jazzed them up a
little bit before the before the game. They won, right,
I don't remember what I don't Oh god, this.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Was years ago.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I bet we could look it up though, if you
remember the day. I mean, I don't remember the day.
I don't remember the year. I don't remember the game,
I don't remember the opponent. Play a lot of football
since then, I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, I haven't. This is when I was done playing.
Oh you were done? Okay, you haven't played for fifteen years?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Over that? Well, I don't know. I was wondering if
you ever did it as a current play as a
current player. It's fuzzy, man, when that happened.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Was it was probably towards the end of my career
or soon after it was over, because you know, I
would usually be in the middle of a season, right, Yeah,
and I would have to be home for the bye
week and.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Go to the game. And I don't remember ever doing that.
I do like and like we have some players.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Scara Bolls does some stuff with Legend, and you know,
there's some some current players that are kind of into
the high school.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Football see, which is actually really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I think that's a as a cool thing to for
these young players to be able to see, right because
they all came from high school at some point playing
football and then into college and then eventually the pros
and the path to that and what it takes to
sort of make it to that because maybe these high
school players have that as a dream and maybe they.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Have other things that they will ultimately want to do.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But I gotta imagine it's gonna be kind of cool
to see like current NFL safety, Oh yeah, leading the
team in tackles. Tell and know whufanga is in our
locker room right now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And when you look back on your high school high
school football is a special time, you know in your life.
Obviously you're going through high school normal stuff, but you're
meeting friends that are going to be friends with for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Memories that you cherished forever.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I remember specific games, specific plays, They'll be burned in
my memory for the rest of my life. Those are
really formative years and formative relationships. The coaches you have,
they are like father figures.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know. You learn how to work hard.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Together, you learn how to be tough, you learn how
to be accountable. Football taught me, and it was high
school football, in particular, how to be accountable, how to
show up every day and work hard, not cut corners,
be responsible, study, I mean all that stuff football really
teaches you and galvanizes it because you know, in other sports,
if you slack off, you know, get knocked on your butt,
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you don't get hurt, and you don't get your buddy
hurt either, And so if I let down, I could
get you hurt. And football teaches you so many valuable lessons.
And that's really when it starts to crystallize is in
high school. And so I have so many fond memories
of high school football, and I imagine a lot of
folks listening right now do as well.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That stick with you forever.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
And so, you know, I don't know who Fongo was
feeling that when he stepped into that locker room, and
there was more of that video when he talked about
how nervous he was going in there and talking to
those kids, right yeah, I mean, you know, he's a
professional football player at the top of his craft, and
he's getting nervous going and talking to these kids about
to play this high school game because it matters that much,
and you can feel how important it is to everyone,
and so pretty cool that he took time out of
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his day to go do that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, again right before the nights before I guess, a
couple nights before one of the biggest games of the season.
And again sort of encapsulating that and no one, especially
because the Broncos were going into that game shorthanded.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That was, as you and I talked about last Friday,
one of the sort of tipping points of why you
thought that the Chiefs ultimately might prevail.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, I didn't say that. Well you did say that.
He said, come on, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Try throw you to the bus and just say one
of us believes, and one of us or not. That's all,
And so U and one of us, despite the fact
they were gonna be missing JK. Dobbins and Pat Sertan
and Alex Singleton, thought they would rise above that, and
other people thought they would fold, and so you And
it's just easy specific. I'm just saying some people you
thought that because they were going to be missing all
(17:32):
of these key players, it was going to be too much.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I wanted to see him beat the Chiefs and I
got to see that, and now I believe that they
will again. Now, like I told you at the beginning,
are you looking at me like that? I'm just I'm
just waiting for you're looking at me like you look
at your daughter when she's like finally like reciting the
lesson back to you.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That you've just taught her. What did I say? What
are you gonna do? What you do?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
But what I won't pick against the Broncos at all
the rest of the season. There's not a single game
I think they'll lose or should lose. Will they lose one?
Maybe I will not pick against them ever again.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
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Nate's Jackson Ryan Edwards with you for a few more minutes.
Hope everybody's excited about their weekend. You got Thanksgiving coming up.
On the other side of all the things you guys
do will offer of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Just eat man eat and Washington football.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I'm a big pie guy, so this is like, you know,
pie season for That's what's the best pie?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, you know, pumpkin pie is kind of the classic.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
My father was a pie maker, so he make pies
all the time, like as a job.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
He could have. He was that good at it.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It was his favorite pie. That's a apple pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I mean, he's from the old school. So like mince meat,
have you ever had a mince meat pie? If not,
but I've heard about him.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Obviously, an original mince meat pie is actual meat in it.
Now the newer iterations of mince meat pie don't have meat,
they have like spices and raisins and things like that.
But he would make one of those every once in
a while. But my dad loved rhubarb.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I liked. Yeah, So if you no.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
One else likes rubarb, well, what I'm saying is, if
you make a rhubarb pie, you might be eating it
by yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right now. You can do a strawberry rhubarb pie.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I guess rubarb used to grow wild where he grew
up in Washington, near Wanatchi. But he made all kinds
of pies depending on the time of year. But around
this time of year, I have a hard time going
to the grocery store and not coming home with.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
A Piecuse it's like pie season right for me.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And so so I'm excited about maybe some pies. On Thanksgame,
We're gonna go to a friend's house. There's gonna be
a couple of families there and some football, some family
and some fun.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You didn't mention the goat pie, which is pecan. Really,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Pecan someone your own size, man, I'm not really, I'm
not into I'm not It's a pecan pie. I'm surprised, well,
because there's like that custardy, weird, gelatinous stuff underneath it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
It's like phenomenal, is it? Yeah? It text like can
help me out?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Listened?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Listen as an adult, as an adult who doesn't need to,
you know, I don't go as far as to say,
like Ben calls pumpkin pie baby food.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Oh come on, I think that's unnecessary. Kind of like
pumpkin pie too, yello putting anything that's sort of that
would that all be baby food? He doesn't have heard
Ben and Nick talking about food before they had some
of the more ridiculous takes I'd ever heard. I almost
pulled the car over and turned around, like what. I
forget what it was, but it was absurd.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Completely agree, Yeah, on all points, some of the most absurd,
ridiculous takes.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
When it comes to food.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
But yeah, anytime you know, and I've talked about pie,
because it comes up, you know, you talk with your.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Guys, you talk about pie. Eventually the pie is awesome. Can, yes,
but guys get together, we talked about pie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So I yeah, I'm a a Pecan, but I wasn't
always a pecan pie person.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
My dad was a big on pecan pie.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So eventually and you sort of passed things down to
your your sons, if you will, and the pecan pie
became a thing that But I was I was pumpkin
growing up. I was so But now I just whatever
you put a pine in front of me, I'm probably
gonna be excited about it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, And the crust is really important.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
It's extremely important, especially for you know, I understand Ben's
point about the texture, but that's why the crust is
important to offset that texture.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Right. So, and then you know a sizeable amount of
whipped cream on the to us.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
In fact, if you don't have whipped cream, and it's like,
what do we what are we savages here?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Like we Actually my dad would say the opposite, like
he would kind of like he's a purious.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
He's more of a purist when it came to that.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know, back in the day, they used to like
eat apple pine with like a piece of cheese.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, it sounds nasty, I've heard of it. Yeah, no,
thank you, I'm good. No, but if you give me
one slice of apple, one slice of pumpkin, I'll be
a happy guy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Okay, Yeah, no pushback from me on that. Yeah, I
just would you know, say, hey, as you tend to continue.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
To develop your taste, U it's you know what, like
I'm finding one of my kids.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Listen, you're you're too young to understand this now.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, but as you get older, you'll appreciate a really
good pecan pie, like like a bourbon pecan pie is bourbon.
Oh my goodness, Oh goodness. We made a chocolate bourbon
pecan pie one year. Oh gosh, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Really, it's actually just a little bit too.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Much chocolate, vanilla, custard, bourbon strawberry pecan pie.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
It was delicious, and afterwards I had diabetes.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
It's just it could be a fudations thing or maybe
it just happened by by tapistance or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
But anyways, well, I hope everybody has a fun.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm a big on on the football part of watching
a lot as much football as possible. We usually go
over to my in laws, who are musicians, so I
have to like say, hey, is it a ky we
have the football onto the background, you know, kind of because.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We don't it's not a focal brand, so that it's
on mute.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I imagine, are you are you the only ones sitting
in front of the TV with a beer. Yes, are
people playing music sometimes? Yeah, yeah, sometimes, But it's just
more about the conversation and hanging out to you, which
is fine, which say, hey, listen, that's Thanksgiving. Yeah, so
for everybody, yea.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Their Thanksgiving is a lot more of we're hanging out together.
But but they understand. And I get to use the
I do this for a living, so I have to
watch these games, even though for me, I want to
watch them as well. Don't tell my wife that, but
I want to watch them as well, And but I
also get to lean on that, like, hey, I have
to I have to know what's.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Going on with these games. Oh so you know, I listen.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Fantasy is involved, like you know, I mean checking your phone.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I'm sorry, guys, I'm really sorry, but if you don't
mind just having it on the background, i'd be great.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You play Fantasy football right? Too much? How often do
you check it? Like what on Sunday? Are you?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Are you like every fifteen minutes, every five minutes kind
of a guy? Or are you like every three hours
just to see the big jump?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Really want to be honest here because it's too often.
It's way too often. Like I'm actually like, generally you
get a notification every point.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, I mean kind of kind of.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm like, I'm on a three yard run, Yes, you wait,
three points.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Kind of if.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It's a close match, it could of it's a game
of inches.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Well, yes, yeah, you would know, yeah, probably better than
I Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Interestingly, as an athlete or as a professional athlete, one
of the biggest transitions for me was the holidays.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And you know, my.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Whole childhood, high school, college, you go home. You know,
I go home for Thanksgiving, I go home for Christmas.
All of a sudden, I'm playing in the NFL, and
I don't get to do that. You know, You're you're
with your team, You're with your new family and your coaches.
It's up to them, and they're discretion on how much
time they're going to give you.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Do they let you go early?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
You know, do they have something Thanksgiving themed? For the
guys who are in town who are just single and
don't have anywhere to go.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Where do they go? So it is a transition, and
it can be a lonely time too.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's why you got to lean on and hope you
have a real strong community in your locker room and
at your team, and I imagine they really do.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
They have a plan. I'm sure the wall they're going to.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Do something, you know, for these guys, and they need
it because you need that family. I mean, this is
the time of year where you want to be around
those you love.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, there's a practice schedule for Thanksgiving on for the Broncos,
and then of course they're playing on Christmas Day, yeah,
Christmas night, yeah in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, so you're spending Christmas even a hotel in Kansas City,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You know, Like, how does Santa Claus come down that chimney?
I don't even know the logistics of that blow my mind.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So you're stalking on room four point thirty two and
they're gonna, well, I.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Guess the lost patser tad when we have a laud
that week, we'll be like, hey, man, so what's the
plan there?
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Bring the stocking with you, you hang it hanging at
the holiday And they probably stayed on a nicer hotel
to that, but.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
They're staying in the nicest ones probably four seasons stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, well, especially Christmas.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I means Christmas one yeah, weak, yeah, if you.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That'd be a depressing Christmas if you go stay in
a bad hotel and lose the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And yeah, but they're not going to lose the Chiefs
because you're gonna pick them the rest of the season.
Oh I will, yeah. Yeah, They've proven it to me.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Even the Chiefs, even the Chiefs game at Arrowhead, you're
picking the Broncos, I will.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, I mean, obviously we don't know what
will be at stake at that point.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's a month over a month away.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Chiefs might be on a run, Broncos might be struggling
opposite my Broncos might have not had lost Chiefs you know,
might lose five.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Straight before that.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
But the Chiefs would love to play spoiler to the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Like, no matter what happens, you're right, that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
However, I think the Broncos are the better team now
and I've seen that with my own two eyes, and
I feel pretty confident that the Broncos have their number now.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
What if is oarrow world though, by the way, but
with all the expectations of the season, and this is
one of the reasons why the NFL is so great,
But to say the Chiefs might play spoiler to the Broncos. Yeah,
when the schedule came out in May, we're talking like, hey,
that game. I think we were saying at the time
that game might be the difference in the division. Yeah, Like,
if you're with an opportunity to play for the division,
(27:02):
you're saying that game might be the difference of you
being the division winner the Chiefs being the division winner.
Nobody and absolutely nobody out there is thinking that game
on Christmas Day at Arrowhead, That's where the Chiefs try
to get the revenge and try to spoil the Broncos
getting the one seed. It's a beautiful world. Into is
a beautiful world. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Got a holiday week coming up. We're gonna be on a.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday next week and of course Thanksgiving me
on Thursday, and then Friday will be off basement all
bright Broncos Country Tonight, coming to the top of the hour,
high Bend.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
How's it going good? You got to an abbreviated.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Program with CEU basketball, see you Buffman's Basketball.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I would ask you what's coming up on your show?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
But thirty minutes of abbreviated Broncos country tonight.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Uh did you see the brand AYUK stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
What what's happen coming there? They're gonna avoid the guarantees.
He'll be gone on to the end of the year.
We'll go avoid everything and it'll be gone the end
of the year. What's uh, what's his future look like
in the league?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
It'll be a starter somewhere. Okay. You know that's the
thing Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
You know, maybe they've been sniffing around for another receiver
for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
They sniff around here.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
They're diiffer on Courtland Sutton quite a bit, but they
haven't been able to land anybody opposite you know, dk
D kay I take the top off. They want somebody
to work the middle, and so you know they need
to find receiver to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
He might fit there. Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah, we were sort of chopping it up earlier. Didn't
feel like it would be a good personality fit here here.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh he's not coming here. Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm saying,
doesn't Bill?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Okay, Sorry, I didn't know you were asking a relationship
that's not happening.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Well, we asked that question everywhere every time. Here's a
player happening every time there's a player available, as the question.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That comes up, No, he's not coming here.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So before we we're actually gonna do a college football game,
we're gonna do the organ game coming up for our Show.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Me the Money. Just final Thoughts Colts Chiefs we were
talking about a little bit earlier. It's obviously a big
game in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
You're on the Chief's side of that, And is that
a belief that the Colts are And obviously fraud feels strong,
but maybe the Colts aren't is good as the record
would maybe indicate, because generally an eight and two team
taken on a five and five team, even on the road,
you'd probably lean the direction of the team that has
a better record.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, it is a little bit of that. I'm not
completely sold on the Colts.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
They're they're playing fantastic, Daniel Jones is playing great, they
score thirty two points a game, very strong running game,
potential MVP and Jonathan Taylor that said, I don't fully
believe in them yet.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And I think the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
At home are a tough draw, and they're going to
be mad, and and it's they're kind of their last
gasp effort here, and I think they're going to find
a way to be the Colts.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
How do you feeling about it, Ben, Colts outdoors you
picked the other team.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Okay, So it's kind of just more of Daniel Jones
and Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I mean, I'm with what they said and that analysis
I think is asprecient. But the added factor is the
cults are terrible outdoors. I mean, they just are, you know,
that's that's I don't know what it is, but they're
They're so used to that dome and and so yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I'm on the Colts side of it, just for the
not not rooting interest, but just more of a thinking
that the running game and the fact that the Chiefs
really haven't really tried to have one versus the Colts
can lean on that and they have the best.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
I arguably the best running back in the game. Yeah,
I and I agree with that. I still I just
I don't know. I just don't think Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Outdoors in the cold and arrowhead on the road. I
just I'm not I'm not buying. Well, the trend would
agree with you.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Dani Jones had a couple tough weeks and we probably
want Kansas City to win this game.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I mean mathematically.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
I know certain people are feel icky about rooting for
the Chiefs for Sobroncos, but I'm a pragmatist. So I mean, like,
looking at the math here, you want the Colts to lose,
and that's that's probably where it's headed.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, I ham it for the one seed. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
And then last night, I think the Texans Texas winning
was kind of interesting as far as the math. They
didn't really it only like two percentage points off of
the Chiefs Mills.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I got to give some props, man. I was like
that every time. I'm like, the Texans don't have the firepower.
They get back there and then they just keep finding
ways to win with the right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So is there a quarterback controversy in Houston? I mean
there might need to be, right, I.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Think there should be.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, if I'm being honest, like that offense operates
better with Davis Mills.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, or at least c J.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Take your time, man, I don't I don't know if
you've passed that that dube we're going to see a
double there.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No forefingers and now you're wrong
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