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November 25, 2025 • 35 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was kind of nice to lower the stress level
for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, just a few minutes just watching the games, enjoying us.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
You know, some good ones out there.

Speaker 4 (00:09):
Man.

Speaker 5 (00:09):
It was really it was some really good games this weekend.
And you know, actually, you know, I got some friends
of course who live in Kansas City. I did like
to see them lose. With them beating the Colts actually
is a good thing for the Broncos. So I was
looking at that Pittsburgh losing, I was looking at that
Buffalo losing.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I was looking at that.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
So it's a lot of a lot of good things
happen on our on our on our by week.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, we were talking about it a little earlier because
one of the national podcasts ranked their contenders in the
a f C and they didn't even put the Broncos
on the top four top five lists.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Of course not. He's right, I like that.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's in the end, it's it's probably ultimately a really
good thing for this team.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Like if I'm Sean Payton, I'm probably holding that up.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hey, listen, you don't want anything, In fact, not all
of you not want anything.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Most people that they don't believe you even belong here, yeah,
and will use that. Did you have coaches that did
stuff like that?

Speaker 5 (01:02):
You know what, honestly, you never You shouldn't need it.
You really don't need it. But here's the thing with
the way of the world is social media and all
that stuff. Trust me, you see and hear all kinds
of stuff, and some of it's real, some of it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Some clips AI stuff is crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
So you can you can create the bulletin board material
that you want. And I and I see a lot
of these national guys who got these probably pretty big
contracts on TV all the time, and they suck at
their job because they always trying to predict and be first.
And then when you're wrong, you don't go and apologize
for your stupid comments that you made, or especially when
you try to be little teams. That's what I don't

(01:40):
I don't care which team. I don't believe in be
little in anybody, because it's hard to make it in
the NFL. It's hard to get on a roster, it's
hard to stay on a roster, it's hard to coach
in this league. It's hard to stay healthy in his business.
And I think and I think, and you can correct
me if I'm wrong. I think coach took a good
gamble early in this year when he pushed his team's

(02:01):
bye week back because they was gonna have the bye
week after the London trip, and he pushed it back.
And I have to get credit to those guys for
fighting through that, because it's a fight. You remember Bos
talking about he's tired. Hopefully he got some much deserved rest.
I know, he got a wife and the kids, and
he's probably got the kids jumping all over him, so
he's still getting hit, but it's a little bit love

(02:21):
taps from the kids, so versus you know, the three
hundred pounds defensive ends who were faster than track athletes
coming at him.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Let me ask you something, and I asked Gary Bowles
this earlier in the show. But coming out of a
bye week, is there an acclamation period to kind of
get back into rhythm of the game.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
You know, honestly, maybe a rookie or two, but these
veteran guys, man, they look forward to that week off
and I guarantee you they probably stayed in some similar
type of routine. So because you don't have to go
work out, you go work out on your own. You
do the you know, you ride the bike, you keep moving.
If you're injured, you definitely nurse it. You know, you
get some get some baby time where you get to

(03:00):
get babysit a little bit, but at the same time,
your mind is still on the prize, you know. And
I can and I say that because I remember my
first year starting, we had our bye week, like right
in the middle of the season, so I didn't play
five preseason games.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Then we had eight.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Regular season games, so I didn't play the whole colored season,
and I was dead. I remember my mom was asking
me if I was going to come home. I was like,
absolutely not. She's like, why don't you guys have time?
I said, I said no, and I literally stayed at
the facility. I was in the in the cold tub,
hot tub. I was almost in rehab, but I wasn't hurt,
but I was so exhausted and so tired. My body

(03:38):
hadn't been through seventy snaps a game for thirteen games,
and as it started with the offense we had, you know,
it was, it was brutal. Man.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So I literally took that.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Time just to myself and really kind of pampered myself
because I had to gear up for another you know,
probably right at ten games, and you know we needed
all you know all, I needed every bit of energy
I could get.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, that makes a lot of sense, especially for the Vats.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I guess part of it is coming from a place
of fans have voiced to the concern of sort of
getting back into the your an a game winning streak,
so you don't want to mess up the streak, right,
But also maybe this is an appropriately timed bye week
where they have a bit of a reset and get
ready for the stretch run. So I'm gonna I can
understand that.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I can't think of off the top of my head
examples where teams come out slow out of a bye week.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Most of the time, it seems like teams come out refreshed.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, it's I mean, here's the thing. Everybody's gonna get
to pick a side after the game. Sure, after the
next game. Oh, you're gonna took a bye week. Trust me,
they need a bye week. Everybody else had one. You
need the time to heal.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
You can't. I can tell you right now.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
If they wouldn't have had to buy we'd run out
of gas at the end.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Of the year.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
You needed to buy these Thursday games. I don't like
the Thursday games. I think the Thursday games hurt players
and everybody has to play a Thursday game. Then to
travel all the foreign games. The schedule is brutal as it,
you know, especially with the Broncos, because we're kind of
in the middle of the United States. We go both ways,
you know, we go to West coast, we go to
East coast, and those trips can be brutal on you.

(05:09):
But at the end of the day, every team does it.
And if you want to be holding that trophy at
the end of the year, you find the balance. There's
no such thing as balances when you want to be great,
but you find that even kill where the guys are
going to come back hungrier. And one thing, I think
that bye week helps us with eighth baby and Weedie streak.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
And we're not playing well, we're not playing great.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
We're playing very good football and different phases are stepping up.
But I think if the coaches and the players have
a time to evaluate what they've done, they can tweak
it and make it better. So I think as we'll
come out of there bye week. I really believe on
offense we'll hit our stride these last half of the season.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And coach Payden said the penalties, he said two things,
said the penalties, and he said the turnover differential. The
two things that he feels like the team could be
much better. And of course they're the worst team in
the league of penalties.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah, we're number one in penalties and punts. Yep, that's
not good, right, We're not number one in points.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, and the MIAs three turnover margin yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, that and that you know, our defense a very opportunisty.
They get a lot of sacks, but if we can
get some tip passes, get some turnovers and definitely cut
But I think the penalties are even bigger because they
lead to different field position, and that's what's really killing us.
At field position. We have to go to long distance
and they're going to short distance, and then you don't
have that turnover differentior like you're talking about. It makes

(06:22):
your offense struggle. I know, people, you know we want
to be a fine tube machine. No, I want us
to have forty and fifty yard drives instead of eighty
five joint drives.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Ninety three accepted penalties on the season, and the things
for like nine hundred and some yards. It's like, yes,
it's eregious. Yes, And that's through twelve weeks. Like that's
you even went through the bye week and you didn't
play and you're still number one in that category.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
That's That's something that I can imagine for him.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
As a veteran coaching staff, they take a look at
that and say, Kyle Leave, what can you point you though?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
No, it's you know what, every man, man and man,
you gotta look at yourself and the penalties that were
called on you and the circumstances, because you know, we
get them at the wrong times. We get them on
third down every time offense and defense. We have a
big play.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
On offense.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I remember when we were in London because I'm watching
the game, I'm in London. Franklin had a huge third
down play and we had a penalty and now we
go third and sixteen and we get off the field,
and you know, so like that on defense, we got
him third and long and we'll get a holding penalty
on the defensive back on the back side of a play.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
They ain't got nothing to do with nothing. But you
got to understand down.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
In distancing situations and know when you can take those,
you can kind of be a little risky. But in
the NFL, I think we have to be as clean
as possible moving forward, and hopefully we can address that
and get our running game. I think geared up to us.
When the winter time come, the run game needs to
be on point.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, that's gonna be Uh, that's gonna be a tough.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Deal, the running game. I'm I'm hopeful this way. I
liked the last week.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I liked it last week.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I really did.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Really I didn't get to talk about it really, but
I like the fact that without Dobbins he had to
run up the middle with with with RJ. Harvey, Harvey
and even mcgloughlin, they ran in the middle, and you
know what then when they told the McGlocklin into the
end zone, I think that was team.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's what it's about.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's like, we're better than you up front and we're
going to prove it.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
And you got a smaller guy who run up in a.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
Super hard He had three four yards, but you know
when he got tackled, but he didn't get tackled because
these guys on the back end.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
And I think that.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Gives it to me, is given us more versatility because
if Harvey can run and play in the middle and
get four or five on the ground in the middle,
we already know with the speed and outside of his
catching ability, he could be more dangerous because he can
show all aspects of his game.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I do think there's some value what you're just saying,
and I'm more inclined to believe that the talent or
that you have in the running back room can be
sufficient for what you need to down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Here.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
We just haven't really seen it.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeh, So I think those that's why a lot of
people are a little resistant to that idea. But you
didn't have to buy maybe at an opportune time as
a coaching staff to look at the way that you're
approaching it now that you know that you don't have JK.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Dobbins.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah, No, that's the thing. The great thing about the
Bide week, no one really takes off. They just don't
have a game. The schedule. I mean, they'll give the
players probably two or three days, two or three.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Days that they wouldn't normally have off.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
But they're not gonna go cold turkey and do nothing
for five six days.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
But the thing is, if you're honest with yourself, even
with the win streak, you can evaluate and say, how
can we make how can we continue the streak and
make it easier on our team? The penalties, cleaning up
the penalties, the definitely, the turnover differential, making sure that

(09:43):
if we do punt we're pinning them back, we're not
punting backed up, those types of things, And I just think,
I just think it's a great time to because remember
we know coach is analytical, right, he loves the analytics.
He can look and see which run plays were the
best the first half of the season, which past plays
were the best, and we talked about it. You even

(10:04):
brought it up with both said we ran the same
play three four times, and he went to three different people.
So now you can you can go get a collection,
and now you start framing out what we call.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Something to hang out hat on if everything hits the fan.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
These are the six plays we got that we know
we can run beyond the shadow of a doubt regards.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
What defense are is a question here on the text line,
says Rod mentioned that the coach could have taken the
bye week earlier. Our coach has given options on what
weeks they could take their bye week. No, not typically,
but what if they are given the option And I
guess this is relatively new because it used to be
after an international trip as an automatic buy for the teams.
But coach Peyton said told all of us that he

(10:47):
was given the option of taking the BUYE after that
Jets trip.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And he declined it.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
So it doesn't mean that he was given well, this
is when your bye week will be as a result
of it. They could have actually been before the London trip.
Who knows, right, but he was given the option to
have the BUYE week and they declined it. So maybe
and maybe at that point they told him it will
be after, but he could have instead of taking the
Giants game right after, they could have had a buy
week there. They were able to win, they were able

(11:12):
to keep the winning streak going, but it did take
its toll.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And that's something that you were kind of referencing.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, definitely takes a toll. And you know, most
of us don't get to pick the first thing we
look at wins to buy. I don't want it super
early in the season because you have that stretch man
is efficient.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Everybody wants a round week. You know.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Now they got seventeen game, they wont around the week
nine or ten. And if you can get around week
nine or ten, you got to just hang on to
week nine or ten and then get a It's a breather,
you know what I'm saying. A little bit of a reset,
a lot of evaluation, and I think the move was
good because I think if you look at it, Kana
City had to buy right before they played us, the

(11:49):
Chargers had to buy i think last week as well,
so our whole entire conference, and so based off scheduling.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Just for that question, that was a great question.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
But you got to remember down the stretch they have
a thing called the flex schedule where they can flex
those games, and they want the top teams to literally
be geared up at the end of the season, battling
at the end of the year, because what happens the
radis shoot up and and you know what it's all about,
capitol at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, that is exactly right.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
In fact, we don't know when the Broncos are gonna
play the Chargers, for example, that's considered it's already regious
as TVD flex.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
It's already flexed games.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
So if it'll become a primetime game, if everything is
coming down to the wire, who gonna win AFC West,
Trust me, they'll flex that game and everybody's tickets will
be moved to a certain time and dating in place.
And that's just how they do it. And that's a
that's a luxury that they have in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Now, what do you think about the Chiefs? They got
that went over the Colts. That was huge, that was big.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Everybody here saying, and we had Shelby on He's like,
you don't want to let the Chiefs into playoffs.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I don't want him in there. I'm telling you right now,
I don't want them. Know I'm hisiting I because I
have friends. They can't say down on them one the money,
but can city win? In to me, helped us because
we lost to the Codes. If we would have beat
the Codes, of course I want the chief to lose,
but at the end of the day, they still have
uphill battle. But if you look at the other teams

(13:09):
who lost, Pittsburgh loss, right, the Ravens are picking it
up Buffalo loss.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
So those are some of your top.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
AFC teams and I'm telling you, if Can City gets
lumped in there the Chiefs at the end of the
year for the last nine years, let's just be real,
have been there and you won't. You don't want them
to even qualify for the tournament. If they qualify, they
make noise, and that noise can be very loud.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's exactly how I feel.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I mean, they're a ten seed right now, but I
mean you're looking at them six and five, the Steelers
six and five, the Texans are six and five, and
the Ravens. The Ravens are six and five. You have
the Chargers, Jags, and Bills all seven and four. So
I mean everybody's kind of right in there.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I know.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
For the Broncos, you just got to continue to find
ways to win. I mean, that's that's really what it
comes down to. Rod Smith and Studio. So our guy VJ.
Mitch Joseph did a podcast with Alfre Williams c Yeah,
he was really good, and he was talking about Bo
Knicks and he said this, I want to get your
reaction to it.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Say two things about Bob Okay.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I think both Knicks and the Broncos future John l
Way He's gonna be here for a long time because
he's built for it.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
He's built for it, I promise you that.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
And number two about Boe Knicks, we know on game
day he gonna make a play, right because we watch
it in practice all summer, all summer. He's going to
make a play. His skill set, Man, he's gonna make
a play eventually, you know, so defensively, offensively, you know,
we just play as a team. We talk about how
we're gonna win each game, and sometimes the strategic of

(14:40):
how we win these games.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Well, we know, end of the day, man, he gonna.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Make a play.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
VV is tough and competitive.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
And he's smart and he wants to win every game
he plays, and he make time he plays too, and
the boys love him.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
So that was via Guerrilla Sports. So what do you
think about that?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I mean, I think when we get into the can
he be in the same conversation of the greatest of
all time? Right, certainly John Elways in the great conversation
of greatest of all time, definitely for this franchise, but
all time across the league. I think we get you know,
you know, you don't want to get into those comps yet.
But I think more of the appropriate thing is is
knowing that he is your guy. Knowing that he's going

(15:17):
to be the guy beyond this season and into next
year and beyond. That's the more exciting thing. Like what
do you need to see to know that?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
I One thing I can say that I really liked
about bo when he came in. He was way more
mature than most rookies. You know, he had stayed in
college for probaly an extra year. Like me, well, you
come in a little bit more mature. He's a he's
a married man, he's got he's got some priorities, you know,
and and football is high up there. Football is not
number one, I guarantee in his life. Seems like his

(15:44):
spiritual life and his family is number one. Which I
love that that sucker has a motor and he has
a confidence and he has this belief in himself and
his teammates. The last thing he said, and that was
the most important to me, is that the guys, the
guys would run through brick walls for him if they
have to, same way we did for seven And if

(16:05):
he's in that conversation at the end of his career,
I know they start doing this stuff super early. Everybody
wants to put him, put him in these categories early.
And you got to remember when when you guys see
the John Alway movie that's coming out, I saw it
already album it's amazing. The Different Film Festival, they did
an excellent job. And on Netflix, when you see it

(16:26):
and you look, I want I promise you this. Not
too many quarterbacks playing today would have made it through
the first two seasons of John Alway's career with the
rules that we had, then the physical pounding that that
man took, and then the toll they had.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
On his family.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
I'm not gonna spoil it, but you got to see it.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
You know, you're probably gonna cry.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
No, that's not winning the eye because when you see
something about our hero, because John's our hero, he's my hero, right,
You're gonna see some human side of him that most
of us never got the witness, even myself, you know,
even playing with him for for the years that I play,
I can see those guys how they are with bow
now and the defensive guys like they love watching this

(17:08):
man play. VJ has a defensive coordinator loves watching this
man play.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
They love seeing him make a play.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
He just gets after it and like we said earlier,
if coach just takes the reins off of him a
little bit and.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Let him move, and he's gonna move.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
He's gonna be off schedule sometimes, but he's finding a
way to make the right plays. And like he said,
I think CJ was saying in the background, he makes
time he plays and this is why the streak is
at eight. So there's some plays we had a different quarterback.
Nothing to the other quarterbacks. Those plays don't get made.
Bow knicks can make them. And if we can continue
this and be consistent throughout the rest of this season,

(17:45):
and he gonna get some championships down we got a
different conversation.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I'm with you, and I have said for a
while that what is remarkable for me is Bose doing
the hard thing.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
First.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
The hard thing is to be clutched. The hard thing
is to close out games. The I would say it's easy.
None of it's easy. It's the pro football. But playing
well in quarters one through three, that's something that I
feel like he's gonna find, Like you'll find that. You
see quarterbacks all the time that played well through quarters
one through three, and it's the fourth quarter where it
just doesn't quite come together.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Justin Herbert is an example of a.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Guy that everybody thinks is modify, top five, top ten quarterback,
but when it comes to closing, he struggles. He still
has not won a playoff game, right, Josh Allen has
a tough time sometimes closing.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Patrick Mowos is not that's exactly right. But that's so
he's doing. He's already doing the hard thing.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
He's already got that part down, and that will endear
yourself to your teammates. So that that right there, the belief,
and that that's what struck me about that is if
you really want to get into any kind of comp
with John Elway, it's that there was a belief within
your locker room on really all three phases, but specifically
both sides of the ball, that when seven's in there,

(18:57):
we got a chance.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
We got we got more than a chance. And not
with Bo. He's building that reputation as a guy you
don't want him to have.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
The ball last. And I love that about him. I've
seen the one I saw against the Giants. He literally
had four touchdowns by himself, not by himself, of course,
with the team willed him to four touchdowns in one
quarter which is unheard of. And like I said, if
you have a different quarterback, you don't even get to
call certain places. Now you mentioned something, you know quarters

(19:24):
one through three. You know what I think that is coaching.
I think you get quarters one through three because you
can put your quarterback in the rhythm.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's like a baseball pitcher.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
The pitcher sometimes the coaches call his pitches, and then
sometimes the catcher calls his pitches. When the catcher calls
his pitches, or the pitcher gets to call his own,
I mean, because they know what they want to throw.
And I believe just like most quarterbacks in the league,
they sit.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Down when they call.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
We had the first fifteen, the first fifteen plays, we
draw them up. You don't run them exactly, depend on
down the distance. But the quarterbacks have a say in
the ones he likes, he should and that's what can
determine how you get started. And I believe with this break,
the analytics, the addressing the elephant in the room with
the penlogies to punts and the turnover dissential differential, I

(20:12):
think once we started dressing those and because his thing,
guys are out there plan they don't know all these
stat stuff. They hear it because you know, reporters and
things bring it to them. But once they have it
in their mind that hey, I need to clean this
stuff up. Let me do my part and encourage my
duy to do his part. Then as a whole we
get better. And I think we'll start seeing us get
some double digit, triple digit not triple double digit, big

(20:36):
double digit wins because we're playing those first three quarters
just as well as.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
We played it four.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Talking about Miles Garrett having the unbelievable season he's having.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Man, dude, it's wreck and he is wrecking anybody in
front of him.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, thirteen sacks in the last four games.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I mean, it's cool to see.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
You got to get out of there too earlier. Then
they gave him a check he couldn't refuse. I don't
blame him. If he were to take out had to
go get wrestle Miles, it wouldn't have lasted long.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
And it's interesting on these things, right because.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And I know that he set it, and there's a
little bit of like, yeah, right, but he's about to
probably set the sack record, right, He's got eighteen so far.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
He's gonna get there. He's got six games left to
set it, so he's gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
But he has said that he would trade those stats
or those numbers, or the defensive player of the year,
which of course he'll be in a shoe in four
to have a winning record, have a chance.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
In the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
I guarantee it. Okay.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
So I mean, player say, especially especially you believe that
when they say I believe, I believe. But no, Miles,
for one, Miles doesn't need any individual awards. Miles doesn't
need any money. I mean, we take the money. We
get all the money we can get, because there's a
short lived where God's how long he plays. But if
Miles Garrett can get a Super Bowl, that to me

(21:58):
is is like Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald did. Aaron Donald
could still be Record Shop right now if you wanted
to Aon Donald's still stronger than everybody in the league.
I man, dude, I follow him on Instagram and I'm
watching lifting. I'm like, this dude is liftingself.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
The guys who come who in the league can't lift.
But and he was just.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Dominant when he played, and he just said I'm done.
But he got a Super Bowl, and I guarantee if
he wouldn't have Super Bowl, He'll still be out there
chasing it because that that super Bowl ring is a
prize that as as young boys, once we start playing football,
winning is all that really counts, you know. Just so happened.
They're going to pay us to do this, and it's
a it's a global game. And when my Miles I

(22:37):
don't know Miles Garrett, I've never met him, but I
can tell you this when he says that, I believe
it because if you look at his career and what
he's done, the only thing left is winning. Like actually
being the guy at the end of the day with
your team, leading your team to the top. Is some
that some guys in the NFL that matters other guys
they want their paycheck, They wanted to be big, and they.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Just you know, they cause some issues.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
So just frequently on that.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
And it's not to say that I don't think that
he means it so much as he had a chance
if he could, maybe he didn't really have a chance.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
They ended up paying him and he stayed, but he
said he.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Wanted to be traded. He said he wanted to be traded.
He want to be traded to a contender. So That's
where I guess a little bit of the internal eye
roll is it's like, well, if you really wanted to
win a ring, there are teams that you already knew
how to chance this year or we're on a path.
And that's not to say and I'm not to be
overly negative about Cleveland, It's just they had the quarterback
position up in the air, like we didn't even know

(23:31):
what that was ultimately look like. And Cleveland has not
been historically one of those teams that is contending a
year in and year out. So you could have gone
to a team that is contending, that is in the
running for that. And if you really wanted to win
a ring, that should be more of the mindset whether
or not the Cleveland Browns would have acquiesced to a trade.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
But but you gotta think about it this way too.
Even if you go to a team they don't guarantee anything.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
You go to that team and they could be that
could be a down year.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's fair.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
There's I was looking at a bunch of stuff. You know,
Aaron Glenn's Me and Aaron and friends were not close
like that. I know Aaron Glenn played against him. You
know a lot of people dogging out his career as
a coach of the Jets. You know, it's his first year,
but then they start naming a bunch of head coaches
now who are now in their fifth and sixth year,
who are doing really well.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
And it is like that even in the position.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
I can tell you this, when they gave him a
number that they wanted him not to refuse, which is fine,
but I guarantee they made some promises to him too,
that they were going to change the thing around, They
was going to change the culture. They was going to
get him some other players. We're gonna spend the money
to get the players around you. And it's just that
they didn't just give him a check and say hey man,
stay here and then just deal with the same old,
same o. I mean, every I believe, every organization has

(24:41):
a they have an idea.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Of trying to get to a Super Bowl, and most
of them happens.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
The top teams have action with that and they go
pay where they need to pay to go get the
coaches they need to get, and they'll get the players
in the building that they don't let them leave the
building if they really want to go and fight for
a championship. I'm sure they sold him on that as well.
And then of course you got this big number that
you've never seen, you probably never thought you'd ever see,
but now he's got your name on it. That's hard

(25:08):
to turn down.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Let me ask you something for the Broncos, the idea
of being greedy, like understanding that next year, years beyond.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
This aren't guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Like you're a nine to two right now, you have
a chance at the one seed. You have a chance
to make a real run with this team as constituted,
not Hey, we're the beginning of something Like Washington Commanders
last year. I thought they were the beginning of something
and then they had a bit of a set back year.
Right they've lost six straight. They're three and eight. That's
the team you're getting ready to face. I almost think
that's the cautionary tale. If I'm the coach of the Broncos,

(25:38):
if i am this coaching staff, is I'm selling, don't
take it for granted. Don't think that this is what
it's going to be every year, just because it has
come to us. Not easy, but it has come to
us this year, maybe a year ahead of what a
lot of people thought, how do you encourage greediness?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
And we don't.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Think about this as the beginning of something. We think
about it as the here and now, let's go get
it now.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, you have to focus on it now, and you can't.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
I mean, I can tell you right now, twenty five
percent of those guys on this team right now, they're
not gonna even be on the team next year. So
you can't think about that. Here's two things that remind
you it was about to happen. The Jets game in
the Raiders game. We won those games. They were terrible games.
I think anybody on the team will even say the
overall things was not good, but we won. Now you're

(26:28):
going into a place Sunday night football three and eight
team lost sixth straight, still have the pieces of a
really good football team. The quarterbacks gone right, you can
get fall, You can fall for all that.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
All you want.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
You're coming off of buy and you should be a
little bit more refreshed. We should see some our base
corps stuff that we can run extremely well, and we
should dominate that football team and that'll set you on
a different path for the second half of the season,
in my opinion, and I think that's all you sales
this year. You can't worry about next year and the

(27:02):
year coming because most of the people, honestly in the NFL, guys,
it's a turnover. It's like a third every year there's
a turnover of the third. Sure, you're just trying to
figure out, Okay, the third that comes in, can we
get them to adjust with with us real quick? If
you're one of the ones who gets to stay, we're
gonna lose some top players. Hopefully they're super Bowl champions
when they leave, because they'll go get paid.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
When you get that ring on your finger, it brings
something to your career. It brings the essence to your
career that no one can take and you have to
live in the now. You got to remember that the
buy week when at the trade deadline, we didn't end
up bringing anybody in. And you know that to me
means the coach trust the guys he's got. We've been
on the streak every since that. You know they we
picked it up. Our best game I believe overall we

(27:45):
played in the last three years, Like I said, was
the last week's game, that Kansas City game against that
team for what they've done over to us over the
last several years. That was a statement game for the
organization this year, not moving forward with just now right
because we're gonna play them again, and if they're in
their playoff fighting fighting for the life in the playoffs

(28:06):
and we're fighting for the one seed, it's gonna be
another battle.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
It's gonna be a battle either way.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
It's gonna be a battle gets a charge, It's gonna
be a battle on December seven when we play the
Raiders and in Vegas. It's gonna be a battle every time.
And I think we this week we just focus on
the now. We focus on doing what we have to
do to win, keep the streak going. I guarantee that

(28:31):
feels good. I guarantee coach. Coach is not as hard
on them during the week, and that helps us as players.
We had this thing called hat Day. I don't know
if day man. We had hat Day for a whole year,
because when you win the game, you don't practice in
helpments on Friday. That little carrot we want ran off

(28:52):
thirteen straight wins because of a freaking hat.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Because guys whould come out there with.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Bucket hats on visors on just anything stupid just because
we didn't want to wear a helmet. You're making all
this money, but you you just wanted to practice without
a helmet for one day, and you'll be amazed at
the little things. I guarantee Coach Paige's got some of
those tricks up his sleeve. At the reward the guys
from the job well done, because they've went on a

(29:19):
streak against some tough opponents and it's only gonna get
tougher as.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
We move forward.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Ninred percent right about that. I would wonder what that is.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I know that he gave them a little bit extra
time here in the bye week, like he gave them
a little extra eight. You came off this Chiefs win.
You got this win. Yeah, we're gonna take some time.
You guys earned that time, and that carrot probably did
go a long way for this team, especially coming off
the Raiders game, which wasn't a great game.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
As you said, you didn't play your best. You knew that.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
They all knew that, and there was a lot of
questions about could they hang with the Kansasit Chiefs. Not
only do they hang with them, they beat them, and
they beat them in a lot of ways. That in
a somewhat predictable way because your offense, Bronco's office had
the ball at the end and they had a chance
to close it out, and you're gonna find an opportunity.
You said it earlier, and I thought you thought it
was appropriate to repeat. We're at a point now, whatever

(30:05):
you think about bo Nicks, you actually liked the idea
of him having the ball last absolutely, and that that
is a pretty exciting thing.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Like whatever you think about b Nix as.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Far as his long term abilities or what he means
the franchise and all that nonsense, you want him to
have the ball at the end because he's been proven.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
To be Really I'm bringing tho snacks dog, no dog,
no snacks. Yeah, you want me to bring the dog.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I'll bring the dog. All right.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Dog's doing good, doing great, nice, very good. How are you?
I'm doing well, very good.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Dog.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
What's coming up on the show.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
We'll get a little bit of this, a little bit
of that.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Fantastic he never knows in yeah, you know, he's just
putting it out of their Do you have Seve tonight?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
No grant stolen last night? So ah, there you go.
I got to pay back for that apparently you Nikki
Jabala tomorrow tomorrow. Okay, right, well there you go. I
do know what's going on.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Washington.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
It's good. I've known Nikki for a long time and
so I just, you know, sneaked out from under Koa.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Sports, so very quickly here we are having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And yeah, I know you did that. It's just fine,
it's great, great we had.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
We were having a conversation earlier and Dave was giving
me a bunch of guff on this.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
So I'm just gonna get your opinions on this.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I've already been dunked on by everybody, including Shelby Harris,
but I still think I'm right about this. So we
were having a conversation about how I don't like russel sprouts,
but I will allow you they're grow there.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Awful, the most disgusting, a great right.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
But so my wife really likes them, and so so
sometimes when she wants them, or if we're at a
restaurant something she wants to order as an appetizer, Like,
I'm not a big fan, but I will eat them
with her because it makes her happy. And and and
so everybody, including Shelby and Dave, they said that was
the most ridiculous thing ever heard. They will not draw,
they will not allow their taste buds to.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Go there because of their wife.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Why do you have to work?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
I've never been made, so I wouldn't have to deal
with that.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
How long have you been made?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I've been married fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
You'll never make it the sixteen if you don't eat them.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Brussels fress I think is a credible gesture. But he
does she know that. No, she definitely knows that you
don't like them because of hers. It's Christmas twn. You
need these points you've been You're gonna get killed all
the first ten months of the year. You just you're
just a guy in her house. He's laughed, the us

(32:42):
you'd get some points.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Man confused.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Why do you have to eat them? Why can't she
just order them and eat them?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
No, because she doesn't want to eat a whole order
of them, like it's a lot, so you.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Have to share them with her.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, she's asking, no, don't you put them in a
box and take them home? And she's got more for
the next time.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
She's because they're not they don't reheat like Brussels sprouts are.
They're bad enough as they they.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Don't reat, they don't eat heat.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
They don't.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
I'm just trying to twenty five.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
And you see the median like the middle.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
That's what Brussel sprous is the same thing grass in
the middle right now between.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
From I just I don't understand, like I just wouldn't
eat them if I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I don't know you could order the money. I'm just
not gonna have any.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
But I'm gonna say something.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
This ain't the same because I don't have a spouse
holding a knife over my neck like you. But I
ordered these meals now and they have green stuff in them,
which people who know me know I don't like. I
don't like green beans, I don't like broccoli. I don't
like Brussels sprouts. But every one of my meals has
something green in it. Okay, I've been eating it for you, disgusting.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I paid for it.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, and I'm trying to be healthy. My daughter would
be happy with me. My daughter knows I hate but
he knew. He knows I'm eating rock ANNOUNC. You're like, WHOA,
this is big. So I'm trying to be healthier. Good, Okay,
but it's different. It is a spouse. I agree with
you for doing it for your spouse.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Thank you. I and I appreciate somebody having my back
because the way I viewed it, and then we'll get
to show me the money.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
The way I viewed it is kind of like, hey,
you're gonna go to a concert or you're gonna go
to the opera.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Right, It's like you do things for your partner.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
You do things with your partner or maybe not necessarily
your favorite, but you're good with it because and you
both have an understanding. But she doesn't ask for it
every single time. She just doesn't want to order a
whole thing of them and then eat them all by herself.
That's difficult in the restaurant. The eating is the activity.
You could eat different things. If you go to the opera,
you're both listening to the opera.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Can you ever use that in your for you to
get some you know, favors from her?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Could I cure? I mean, can you use that as
you as an event?

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Baby eating the buzz the spouse.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
I guess we're gonna find out it is GI season.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
I'm just I'm just saying that over here.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, he ain't sweat.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
He don't have the bacon after fifteen years. He lucky
made fifteen years. His flannel shirts up.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
It bad.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
That shirt tells you he's married leader shirt.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Wow, the bucket.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
That's married got shirt. I'm sorry, that's fair. I have
seen being with one though

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well I there's a comment there, but I'm just gonna
let the one
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