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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The reason we bring it up so often is we
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had a lot of questions on the text line asking
us where Dave is. So there you go, once and
for all, tuning some time off. It's earned it in
a very busy season. Of course, he's going to be
on the call for the game on Sunday Lebroncos in
Chargers and we head out to the Kawai Commas Spirit
Health Hotline right now to check in with shnnon Farren
Chargers Sideline report.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
She it's great to have you back on the program.
Thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you, hey, Ryan, Where's Dave?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
There? It is?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yees see, exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I get about thirty texts today during the show, no
matter times we said it, and they'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Like, well, where is he? He's going to come in later, Oh,
he's taking some time. Anyways. It's really good to catch
up with you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And obviously a big day in the news for the
Chargers as your coach Jim Harbaugh announced that the quarterback
is not going to play justin Herbert, what was your reaction.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
To that sign of the cross? I mean, you all
remember what happened back in twenty twenty three, when the
Chargers had already lost up the five seed going into
the playoffs. We came to Denver. The Brandon Staley at
the coach at the time, made the decision to play
the starters. Wanted to keep the momentum going into the playoffs,
and we lost Mike Williams late in that game to
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a season ending back injury. Went on the following week
to play the wild card game in Jacksonville, justin Herbert
only had. Anyway, it was a disaster, let's not relive it.
We are very happy as a Chargers people that this
is the decision. The key starters will sit in Denver,
which will make your pathway to the number one seed
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that much better. So I'm sure that everybody in Denver
is just as happy as we are.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yes, everyone in Denver here is happy. But I know
there's another guy in charge of country who is definitely happy,
and that is Durham James. How was this kind of
relationship between Jesse Mentor and Durham James really kind of
help him the sin As a defensive player.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Derwin James will tell you that jesse Mincher and the
defense that he runs well, first of all, it's built
around letting Derwin do what Derwin does. But even if
Derwin James wasn't here, jesse Minter specializes in looking at
a player and allowing that player to do what he
does best. Not trying to take a player and fit
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it into X, Y or Z system, but to play
to a specific player's advantage, and that is working out
for this defense. It's why jesse Mincher's name has been
batted around as head coach next year in the NFL.
He has taken this team and this defense in a
matter of two years and changed it completely. He says
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that he learned that lesson back when he was at
Michigan and they lost to TCU, and they lost to
TCU by enlarged by a very hot young receiver by
the name of Quentin Johnson who now plays for the
Los Angeles Chargers. But he was on that plane ride
home when he said, this defense is so good. What
am I missing? And he went back to fundamentals and
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he went back to just physicality. And that is what
he has brought from Michigan to Los Angeles. This is
a team that plays physical It is what John Jim
Harboss used me and John Harbaugh absolutely love about a defense,
you know, and unfortunately for us, Denzel Perriman, who has
been playing that physical got unfairly penalized by the league
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in a two game suspension for playing football, and we
didn't have him against the Texans and it showed, and
we're not going to have him in Denver, but he'll
be back to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Shannon farre and join us here a Chargers sideline report.
I want to go back to the first part of
what we were talking about, with the deciding to have
several players for the Chargers not play. You said the
fans are supportive of this. It seemed like that to
me when I got on Twitter, not only before this
decision or this announcement happened over the course of the
weekend instance today, it seemed like most Chargers fans have
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been kind of vocally saying this is what we do,
and they brought up to Mike Williams situation, but they
also brought up the fact like, hey, Chargers are already
in and maybe this gives us a path to the Patriots.
Does it seem like the a lot of Chargers fans
are supportive of that idea being the team that they
face in the first round.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
From what I know, we would very much prefer the
Patriots when you look at these two teams on paper.
First of all, the Chargers have beat the Patriots. This
Patriots team by and large. The Chargers beat the Patriots
in Foxborough in December of last year forty to seven.
Justin Herbert was good for three touchdowns. Drake May was there.
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Drake May and what he's done in his second year
is outstanding. What don't the Patriots have They don't have
a pass rush? What don't the Chargers have an offensive line?
If the Chargers don't have to contend with a pass rush. Yes,
they've got a good run defense in New England, but
we don't have to run the ball. We can run
the ball, but we don't have to with the arsenal
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that Joe Ortiz is built up for Justin Herbert following
that loss in Houston last year. It's explosive on its own.
So the Patriots is a much better matchup I think
for this Los Angeles Chargers team than going back to Jacksonville.
Nobody wants to go back to Jacksonville. Nobody wants to
face red heart, red hot Trevor Lawrence right now, and
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that defense and Lea Cohen and no one wants any
of that, and so I think that's what the preference
is from who I from, whove I've spoken to in
Chargers Nation out here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, I'm not sure if Quinn Johnston is going to
play in the game on Sunday, But what are your
thoughts about him? And the reason I asked that question
is because obviously he has big playability, but he hasn't
always played up to that particular level.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
But what have you seen from him that to make.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Him somewhat a threat if the Charges are to go
deep into playoffs?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I would respectfully disagree about Q. The only times he
has not played up to his potential is when other
people have been eating on the field. Justin Herbert has
spread it around this season. Like I mentioned, the arsenal
has gotten a lot bigger than it was last year. Yeah,
Q had some early drops in his career, so did
Jerry Rice. Q has played outstanding. He has played great
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and contested catches this year. He's a great deep threat,
He's a fast or, he's a big body. He's great
along the sideline and when Justin Herbert needs him, especially
in the end, zone. You know, Q's got eight touchdown
receptions this season. I mean that's an Antonio Gates number,
all right, So he has done a great job this season.
When the ball gets to Q, the thing is is
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that it's been passed around. It's been passed around to
Will Dissley at tight end. You know, Ronda Gabston at
tight end. It's been passed around with You've got Keenan Allen,
You've got Lad McConkey, who said all the rookie receiving
records in the playoffs last year there in Houston. So
there really is a lot of people for Justin to
distribute the ball to this year, and Q has had.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
A great year last one I have for you, Shan,
really appreciate the time I'm helping us preview this game.
For Justin Herbert and postseason's success that has so far
eluded him, This is an opportunity. This is kind of
a moment in his career. This has been a very
good Chargers team. They've been relatively under the radar. It's
remarkable how good they've been over the course of the year.
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Of course this last game, with the exception of that,
they've been very, very good in really all three phases.
So is this what do you think this means for
his legacy this specific moment, Say it's the Patriots coming
up here in a week's what's going to be the
mindset of Chargers fans when they're watching that and it
relates to what they think of Justin Herbert's tenure there.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think we're far away from talking about what Justin
Herbert's legacy is, but right now it's doing everything on
his own with not a lot of help in whatever
room you want to look in. You know, right now
this season it's been the offensive line that you know,
he's playing with six and seventh string guys who have
done their best to try and shore up was an
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all pro line. When you look at last season, we'll
just go through the playoffs there with Jacksonville. He was
missing Mike Williams right after that back injury there in
Denver Houston. He's missing any sort of any sort of
receivers and running game. Those are his two playoff games
right there. This time around, he's gonna have to do
with an without an offensive line. You guys have looked
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at the tape. What he's been able to do with
no protection has been superhero stuff. I mean, set aside
all Jim Harbaugh and his superlatives for him being the
best to ever play the game. What he's been able
to do, if you like football, has been what like,
how was he able to make that row off his
back foot, throwing across his body, you know, throwing fades
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that land perfectly before receivers even open and the balls
out of his hands. I mean, it's incredible what Justin
Herbert has been able to do. It's magic if you
haven't played along with it. I mean, bo Nix is
so much fun to watch there in Denver. He really
is putting on a show this season and he is.
But Justin Herbert, what he's able to do without any
protection so far, that is his legacy right now, in
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this moment, and it is a masterclass.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well said Sean, and stay with quarterbacks for a quick second.
With Herbert expected to be out, obviously, the start is
going to go to Trey Lance. Expectations for him in
this game. I know the game may not mean anything
to the charges overall, but what would you like to
see from Trey Lance and for him to actually show
against his Walton Broncos defense.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, don't sleep on Trey Lance. I mean, this was
a guy that San Francisco sold itself out for out
of the draft. Trey Lance is also fun to watch.
He's very mobile, he's very athletic, and he's very smart.
He kind of didn't get a fair shake in San
Francisco with injuries and throwing him in the mix there
when he played in preseason. A lot of fun to
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what looks like a guy who could could start in
the National Football League. So don't sleep on him. It's
not like a lot of backups that we have been
blessed to watch in the past a week or so.
Trey Lance is the real deal. So he, like I said,
he's mobile, so when he gets out of the pocket,
he is dangerous, no.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Doubt about it. Shannon really appreciate the time, great insight.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Thanks guys, Take care, Ryan and Nick.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
All Right, sounds good, Shannon Farron Chargers sideline. She'll be
on her way out here to Denver. And it sounds
like the Chargers had no interest in playing the Broncos
back to back, which is again, as we talked about
early on in the show, that was a very real
possibility if the Chargers were to play the starters and
they win that game, which, again to our point, Chargers,
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even with their backups, these were paid professionals. They could
find a way to win the game with the Broncos.
Don't show up and prepare to play this game directly.
But if the Chargers would have won this game, they
likely would have seen the Broncos fall to the three seed.
Chargers then cement themselves to the sixth seed, and then
it would have been a rematch here in another week.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, you have to play somewhat of the long game
with your strategy, because watching Justin Herbert play against the
Houston Texas, I mean he was literally running for his
life on every single play. Will Anderson and Danille Hunter
they were doing just that, hunting him up and knowing
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as though they got to him five times and put
him on the ground. But when you look at quarterback kids,
I mean they still punish them after he delivered the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
So why would you.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Go from that to put him in a situation where
you have John Dea, Cooper, Nick Benito, and Zach Allen,
a group of guys who they're looking to get back
on track from a SAX standpoint, and they thinking Okay,
well we're gonna serve you up because we know you
don't have the right pieces on the offensive line. So
all rolls point to great decision by coach Harbaugh. Let
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the Broncos win the game, fight another day, known as
though you have a better matchup orless you feel you
have a better matchup with the.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Patriots, And just think about it.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
The Broncos fans could be rooting for the charge in
about a week or so, right for them to eliminate
the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So how great would that be the Patriots? Do you
have any sacks the Patriots have as a unit as
a team, Broncos are number one of sixty four.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I would say.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Forty thirty one. Okay, So to Shannon's point, it makes sense,
and she said some digging on it. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
To Shannon's point, this is the Chargers path and it
makes a lot of sense, it really does. You just
said it justin Herbert has been getting abused behind that
offensive line. You put him here in Denver and you're
sort of rolling the dice.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't know if Jim Harbaugh thinks about it in
terms of what happened to Mike Williams. I know the
fan base. Does the fan base absolutely. I remember when
that happened. It was here in Denver and Mike Williams
got hurt, he was done for the season, and they
went to Jacksonville and then they got to that big lead.
I mean, she didn't want to relive it, but we
came lost, but they got to that big lead and
then Jacksonville came back and they ended up winning that game,
and just to Herbert Has, he had to get a
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postseason victory. That's kind of why I asked about the
legacy portion of it, and she's right, maybe that's down
the road, but the point of it is I don't
know if that really weighs on Jim Harbaugh where he
thinks about Mike Williams from a few years ago. But
I know that he looks at this in terms of, well,
this is the number one sack team in the NFL
right now. They're going to be playing at home, highly
highly motivated.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
I don't really have.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Any doubts in my mind that the Broncos are going
to be up for this game.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Like, regardless of who's out there on the field for
the Chargers, the Broncos are going to approach this as
a playoff game. Now, now, there could be a scenario
because when you start finding out all the players that
are not gonna play for the Chargers, maybe you let
your guard down.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Just a little bit. I'm not saying that that won't happen.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But my anticipation is Sean Payton, based on the fact
that didn't celebrate the AFC West at all, is going
to be like, hey, guys, we have to make a
statement in this game.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
We have to make this a no doubter.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I'm sorry, so now style points matter.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's not what I said.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You say, he's basically kind of paraphrase and leave no doubt.
We have to make sure sure that we know let
other people know.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, let's let's not make this a fourth quarter nervous
time kind of game.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, that's still translates to like, you have to score
a lot of points style, but the points.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
On your opponent.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
No, but your interpretation, want to say, and it's fine
if you want to interpret it that way. Your interpretation was,
we're doing this so other people think a certain way
about us. No, we're doing this so that we know
by the fourth quarter what we can we can just
know that it's done.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
No more fourth quarter cardiac comebacks.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
This isn't a game you want to do that.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And because the Chargers are still deep enough and there
is talent out there that they could make this an
interesting game. Like it's eleven a half point spread right now,
if I give you the option of either the Broncos
cover or don't.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Which one are you taking Broncos cover?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Real?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I was gonna go the other way because most people
expect the Broncos not to cover. Ever, Hills never cover.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well my expectations, well, at least on spreads like that.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Well, well, yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's why when they played the Raiders on Urga Night
Football at the Races of twenty seven, I went far
exceeding what I never do and I went forty five
to ten and then nothing and.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Then playing the Chiefs or is it not?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I said, well, you know what, let me scale back
just so I just I was too far ahead of
my skis thirty.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Five to ten. Didn't get that right. So I can
see and I.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Told Grant this, I can see how fans may think
that way because they hadn't they haven't really seen it.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
This is an opponent that you know going in they're
not starting their starting quarterback and they're having issues on
the offensive line, and there's several other players who are
not going to start. We don't know who those guys are,
but you have to figure that's going to impact the
charges on either side the ball. So this should be
a game where you should.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Pad just thats is it not?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You can, but once again, the win is the most
important thing. So it's like that when we play this
on late earlier about Nick Benito's sack numbers, Chemhays like,
I don't care about sack numbers. We won't wins. And
if the design of the defense that day is to
just keep the quarterback in the pocket, nobody gets upfield.
If we sack him, he runs into a sack. I mean,
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that's gonna happen. But we're not. We're not playing on defense.
And then I think some people on a side note
feel as though that the defense isn't playing very well
as a result of that.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
See, we canna have.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
That conversation, and I've had it with different individuals. The
reason people are feeling that way obviously there was a
drop off not having Brandon Jones.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Let's acknowledge that truth.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Also, the defensive played like lights out all season long.
They've been one of the better teams in the league.
Because it was at one point it was believed that
with the game's remaining that the Broncos pass rush would break.
I think it was it seventy two Bears, you know, No.
Eighty five Bears with their seventy two sacks, But that
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kind of has tapered off somewhat.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Of eight sacks.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I mean, I thought that they would get close to
it versus the Chiefs and then end well against the Chargers,
where you have to see that they have an opportunity
to do that on Sunday. But I understand the why
because they have been playing at such a high level.
When you see any points scored in the opening drive
or points scored period, there's all the the Broncos defense man,
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they're terrible. They're falling off.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
It's like, no, they've been playing at a high level
for so long.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Someone scores a touchdown, it's just like, I mean, the
sky has fallen them, Like, get over.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yourself, you want to hear. This blows my mind. So
the Broncos have sixty four sacks at number one. Next
closest the Browns of fifty one. Okay, use last in
the NFL with eighteen sacks. It's a playoff team. Eighteen sacks.
It's a playoff team. Anc NFC.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Tampa.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yep, they're not a playoff team yet.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well okay, well, I guess I got to put them
up there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Your favorite team, Oh, my favorite team?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Well, I mean San Francisco, San Francisco eight eighteen sacks
and they're still and they have optiny to win the
number one seed in sacks. I don't care what anyone
says or whatever Ryan can sink. They my favorite team.
College Sandahan should receive the Coach.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Of the Year.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The Jets have twenty six. Wow, the Jets at twenty six.
The Ravens, by the way, twenty eight. Now they've had
some pockets of being a really bad defense this year,
so that's tough. Panthers are at twenty eight, Cardinals are
twenty nine. The Raiders have twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The Raiders have eleven more sacks than the San Francisco
forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
That says that coaching matters and College Shanahan is doing
a hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
The Bengals have twenty nine Sacksayay.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Bingles are not how about that.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, you eventually just run into sacks, right, you play
people and they it just happens.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Just kind of stumbled into Oh I'm sorry, quarterbacks on
the ground stumble into his sack.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But again back to what Shannon Farren said, the Patriots
at thirty one sacks, which is like tenth worst.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So you think you could be you can beat that team. Well,
the Patriots are a very good team.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
They're they're fundamentally sound as a defense, and they run the.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Ball very well.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But to the point that she said, last year, Justin
Herbert went into Foxborough and they torched the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's a better Patriots team.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Now say, yeah, I know, but but you're thinking now Remarkably,
the Chargers have had success against the Broncos too recently.
The Broncos have not beaten Jim Harbaugh as head coach.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Now it's only three.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Games, Coach Payton, I don't think he's beaten Jim hob.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, we just got us Ben. Ben's going to bring
us that stat.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh okay, he loves he loves telling us about that stat.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Did you guys know?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But anyways, that so I understand the logic of where
she's coming from where the Chargers are coming from in
terms of matchups, because.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's what it's all about. And if you have a
chance to dictate, and you may not always have a
chance to dictate who you play, but the Chargers are
a unique situation because they can.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
We've seen this kind of philosophy use an NBA.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes, we absolutely have often times in NBA, like who's
playing who's number seven? Oh, okay, okay, we're going to
say a couple of players low management, that's right, right,
and then we lose that game and now we got
the perfect matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
This is the equivalent to it. Yes, and this is
what a lot of people have said about the AFC
in general, and the Broncos get lumped into this, and
I think part of it because of we're not used
to seeing the no Patrick Mahomes, no Joe Burrow, maybe
no Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Josh Allen's the most seasoned quarterback in the AFC mix
this year. Maybe you could include Aaron Rodgers, but it's different,
you know, because it's the first year with the Steelers,
or it's just a you it's a different time for
the AFC.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This is a different season for the AFC.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So the Broncos get lumped in like the Patriots, like
Jacksonville Houston to a certain extent, because these are teams
that don't have a lot of postseason experience. So if
you're one of these teams in the wildcard round right
where you're talking about the Bills, talking about the Chargers
and to a certain extent, the Texans, who are playing
very well right now, you feel like anybody has the
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home field ahead of you, that's a team I'll take.
That's a matchup I'm willing to go for.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Well, I mean, just being transparent, this is arguably the
best year for any team or a quarterback viewed as
being an underdog to now put themselves in the conversation
with other guys who have made the super Bowl because,
like you said, I mean, there's no Patrick Mahomes standing
in your way, and that was kind of the biggest
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hurd on issue for a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
You guys don't like my Is that that? What do
you call it? Yeah? Free money?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Integrity, that's what we call it.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
That's what you call it?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, okay, integrity, I'll buy some.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think this is something you could purchase. I
don't think so. No, I'm pretty sure you can't.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I'm sure there's an integrity store around or somewhere, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I tell you what, maybe Walmart has it because they
have everything, best selection, best prices. Can't say enough nice
things about Walmart. You gotta go check them out if you.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Haven't already have some integrity.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, can't say enough nice things.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Five seros are Commas free text line. We got Broncos
Country tonight coming up at the top of the our
Grant Smith Eric Delala. They'll be hanging out with you
into the evening. So we're watching Matthew Stafford warm up here.
Final Monday night football game of the regular season. It's amazing,
it's already like done here. We have the fdle week,
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we got Week eighteen games next week and then the postseason.
But final Monday night game Rams and Falcon.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Do you you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Think Matthew Stafford is already the MVP. I think a
big performance from Matthew Stafford tonight with cement it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But Drake May's five touchdown performance I'll be it against
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Five touchdown performance against the Jets helped his clause, So
I think Matthew Stafford has to have a good game
tonight to really get there.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Stafford has forty touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Listen, man, I know in I hear you, but.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You're well, you're not hearing me. Okay, you're not hearing me.
I just said, Stafford right now leads the league in
touchdowns to the interception ratio. Right, yes, So how can
you somehow put Drake May who Drake only has thirty
and tonight, I mean playing against the Falcons. I mean
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that could even be more for Matthewson, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I think he needs it. I think he needs you.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
He doesn't he needs a big performance tonight. He doesn't
need like a five touchdown performance. But I would say
a good game for him tonight.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
What would you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Consider a good game for Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, and I'm part of this really quickly. Part of
this is also some East Coast bias, right understanding that
Drake May plays out there in New England? Am I wrong?
Here we go again? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Every single time? East Coast bias?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You might be in the Hall of Fame if you
were a jet. No, oh wait, you were a jet.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yes, that means you would have to win more games
because you know.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Okay, anyway, yes, no, no, don't don't make the people
in New York hate me, man.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But I say that there's a lot of people out
there that are enamored with Drake May and how he
is playing. So I believe that Matthew Stafford, though by
the numbers, has had a spectacular season.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He plays in LA.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It's not the same.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Okay, Well, one guy is younger than the other guy,
and we're talking about the ability to do it at
a high level for a longer period of time. And
if we're comparing those two, the guy who has definitely
done that and continues to excel.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
As Matthew Stafford. Oh, by the way, he started the
season with a bat issue as he did.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
How doesn't that feel like forever ago? That whole debate
about will he even finish the season forty touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And also they didn't lose. I mean, he didn't play
the best in the fourth quarter of that great game
with the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Well it's not his fault. His defense couldn't get stops, but.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
His fault specialty is give up the touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No I know, but they sort of fizzled as far
as the Seattle defense showed up and started playing better.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So his defense let him down, and then his defense
let exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But he is still If I had a boat, he
would be my MVP. No, no, no bias included.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Okay, m VP.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I think I'd probably give it to him too. Absolutely,
it's very How about this?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
How about this? You and I both have Heisman votes.
If this was the Heisman, who would get it?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I can't tell you that, Drake. May you know the rules.
I know the rules. The first rule of fight club.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Don't talk about fight club.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
We don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yes, I was testing you. I was testing you were
to send the audio to the Heisman people.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I wouldn't do that. Ryan Right, Why tilted head?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You don't you know what?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Wait a minute, Ryan, do that to you?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Listen to hour three of the podcast. Around five thirty seven.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
An anonymous donor right donated some audio.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's what happened. Then I get a I get a
little message in my email inboxy thank you for your
yours service as of December. But loose lit let's sak ships.
I don't even know what's talking about. Yeah, I bet
you don't.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Hey, the Nuggets are getting underway against the heat and
they lost what a heartbreaker they lost to Orlando a
couple of nights ago. Starting off this what is a
nine game road swing here for the Nuggets. Now they're
about to get healthier.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Aaron Gordon's gonna be back a hamstring, Christian Brown's going
to be back, probably on some.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Limit restrictions. Min Yeah, a little bit little management, but
getting a little healthier. Twenty two nine. How do we
feel about the Nuggets right now? They are there one
and a half point favorite time.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I like the Nuggets against uh, the heat.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The heat doesn't really have what they that's your heat,
by the way, that's where it'd be fine. And I'm
being honest, right, Yeah, I like what the Nuggets have
been able to do because that's hard when you have
multiple guys who are role players and major contributors who
are out with injuries. But it also tests your roster
because a lot of the guys who are nearly going
to get a lot of playing time, they get a
(28:00):
chance to work and David Alliman, he gets a chance
to play with his his personnel grouping and say okay, well,
stars are backups because they're gonna need every single guy
when it comes to the plass because once again you
still have OKC. And I mean you think about san
Antonio Spurs Winby so good, that's gonna be a problem too.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I like the Nuggets, man, I like that. I like
their chances.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
The West is just I mean, not loaded, anybody needs
me to tell them that, but loaded. I mean san
Antonio second. Right now, they're ahead of the Nuggets in
the West.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They did some of this work without Winmby. Wimby was
gone for several weeks there. Now he's back and he's
playing phenomenal. They're only one game up, so it's all
gonna be pretty close. But you know, there's some teams
on the outside looking in that I think we'll we'll
eventually make a little bit of a run. I'm most
surprised about Dallas because Cooper Flag looks phenomenal, but now
(28:57):
with a d he's he's.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Banged up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
It's always freaking hurt, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But like Golden State, they're sixteen and sixteen, You think
that they'd be a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
No, they that team is.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Aging out, feels like it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Maybe that's why you're aging out and the Minnesota is
still good, but they lost to us.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
That's always a hell of a matchup when those two
teams get together. It is Minnesota Nuggets. Yes, because the
ross was almost like mirror images of one another. Man, Well,
he scored like forty four. The last time Jamal had
thirty five, and the cool the Yogas had like fifty six.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, a triple doubles, fifty six, twenty and
fifty gay yeah, or sixteen fifteen, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
It was.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It was remarkable.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
The first time in NBA history it's ever happened, a
fifty point fifteen to fifteen triple double. I d man.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
By the time he finally hangs it up, he's going
to have so many accolades and he's going to have
rewritten history on Big Man. Right, twenty years from now,
you and I will get the chance to say what
you were trying to share with your daughter.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I remember when when this happened.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, and I said this the other day that we're
gonna we'll look back fondly at the Nicola yokach Era.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But I will never be like this, right, no matter
what whatever. The next iteration of the Nuggets is, you'll
never get.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
It while they're last.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's right. And it reminds me a lot of the
Peyton Manninger right in a lot of ways because when
it was here, it was as a rocket ship.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It was amazing. Every year you're a contender because he's here, so.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
It was a golden era. Would you say of Broncos football.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
That's exactly right, you guys. He has to watch the
Lway documentary yet.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's good. I was too hung up on st No,
I understand priorities.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yes, yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's very very good.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Now I will say this, I did see the trailer
of it and Rod Smith and not last week we
talked about it when when we were both leaving the
station and I told him, I said, well, people need
to watch it just from the clip that I saw,
to get a full understanding of what it is like
to be a professional athlete. Everyone wants it because they
see the glitz and glamour, but they don't see the
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sacrifice that comes along with it, because you give up
time with your family and that can impact you and
your kids and your wife in a certain way, and
just hearing some of the guys who play with John
Elwig talk about that and you can see it from
the low cours. I saw the documentary, it is crushing.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
What I like the most about it, and I know
we're gonna have a break here, but I like the
most about it is is you did get a picture
into his world more than just the star quarterback super
Bowl winner. Like you got into stuff with his family,
like his twin died, right, and like his relationship with
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his father, which we knew about right because of how
famous you know, Jack Elway is, but to really get
his side and sense of all of it right, and
then his relationship with his wife at the time and
his kids and how they viewed it. There was a moment,
a moment too when he won the first championship against
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Green Bay and one of his daughters said it was relief.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And I can imagine for that family living with that weight.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I know the Broncos fans felt to two of
all of those Super Bowls that they just got abused
in and then to finally get over the hump and
not have that be the legacy because you know like
that is the legacy until it's not. And the legacy
was well, great regular seasons runs to the super Bowl,
but then when you got there, couldn't get it done.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And just think about it really quickly, the amount of
pressure associated with that and him being the quarterback of
the Denver Broncos and constantly hearing that ye well John
l wa.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But so it's a tough light.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Really remarkable.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So tomorrow the program, we'll of course check it with
Garrett Bowles right at the top of the show. I'm
sure he's gonna be in a pretty good mood coming
off of another win for the Broncos. Heading into the
final regular season game against the Chargers. Of course, that
looks a little bit different now. It looks like the
Chargers are gonna be resting quite a few players, including
their starting quarterback, Justin Herbert. We're gonna have Shelby Harrison
at four thirty and then five o'clock Rod Smith in studio.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You're gonna miss Rod Smith in the studio here. He's
gonna be so sad.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Nick, I'll see him and I'll talk about him when
he leaves. Okay, I mean I'll get in here so
I can talk to him to his face.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You guys just have such classic back and forth.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
He play a receiver.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Why do you say it like that?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Because I said it that way, and I would tell
him if you said he played RECEIVERA.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, no, no, mean you said he played receiver like
your your nose, everything's scrunched up in your face, like
you put into a limon.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Well, I mean sometimes Rob was one of these guys,
but sometimes off some guys think too highly of themselves.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yes, you would never say that about Dave though, right.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I would have to get to know to day in
that particular way. Okay, if I did, and I saw
that in and I would tell them too.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yes, good luck with that. On the text line here,
Gary Carlo, Colorado Springs listening while driving the Gold Coast
to Sydney, Australia. Go Gary, Wow, that's pretty cool. That's
the Heart radio app. Really is amazing.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'm assuming that's long range.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I was gonna say, I, okay away as a signal
goes pretty far I Sydney, Australia might be that's pushing
it far.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But the iHeart Radio app, I'm assuming it's working. Thank you, Gary,
appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Thank you. Gary, appreciate you listening, buddy.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Nick heck yas Stranger Things, I know what you're gonna
be watching New Year's Eve.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
You're doing right.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
There's gonna be some good college football playing that night,
an Io State Miami.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I'm not watching that. I'm watching Stranger Things, and if
you don't watch it, I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Hey, you're gonna forego the college football playoff as a
Heisman voter?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yes, because the Heisman is over. Oh, we've already cast
our votes, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Mendoz are one and that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, Okay, Well I'm gonna be watching Ohiose State Miami
on a Year's Eve and then New Year's Day, of course,
is a great slate of football.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'll be watching those as well. But I'm a little surprised,
but I guess it tracks for you that you're gonna
watch Stranger Things over that.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Of course, why not?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Can I can always follow the game on my trusty phone, Ryan,
so you can also watch Stranger Things later?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
No, No, look, man, I'm a good father to my kids.
My kids want to watch it. We're gonna watch it when.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It comes out, all right, you clean the house before, Oh,
they do.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That all the time.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yes, that's a must.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's how they get fed.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
The important question is will you be spoiling the Stranger
Things finale immediately afterward?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It's like you wear this past week that's right, great,
great question, Grant, Oh great great?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
What do you mean this past weekend?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
What did I say all over your Instagram?
Speaker 6 (36:15):
It was just different little memes about things that happened
in Stranger Things. Maybe not everyone has seen episodes five
through seven.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
The only thing I put out there was leading up
maybe the actors during their readings certain blooper scenes. I
did nothing to give a ray anything in the movie.
I didn't do anything, well, not a sink a thing.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Your Instagram followers would disagree. This was a lot of fun, Nick,
great job is all always appreciation yep, Grant, appreciate you
as well. Looking forward to hearing you and Eric Delala
coming up next on BCT
The reason we bring it up so often is we
(00:01):
had a lot of questions on the text line asking
us where Dave is. So there you go, once and
for all, tuning some time off. It's earned it in
a very busy season. Of course, he's going to be
on the call for the game on Sunday Lebroncos in
Chargers and we head out to the Kawai Commas Spirit
Health Hotline right now to check in with shnnon Farren
Chargers Sideline report.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
She it's great to have you back on the program.
Thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you, hey, Ryan, Where's Dave?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
There? It is?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yees see, exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I get about thirty texts today during the show, no
matter times we said it, and they'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Like, well, where is he? He's going to come in later, Oh,
he's taking some time. Anyways. It's really good to catch
up with you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And obviously a big day in the news for the
Chargers as your coach Jim Harbaugh announced that the quarterback
is not going to play justin Herbert, what was your reaction.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
To that sign of the cross? I mean, you all
remember what happened back in twenty twenty three, when the
Chargers had already lost up the five seed going into
the playoffs. We came to Denver. The Brandon Staley at
the coach at the time, made the decision to play
the starters. Wanted to keep the momentum going into the playoffs,
and we lost Mike Williams late in that game to
(01:14):
a season ending back injury. Went on the following week
to play the wild card game in Jacksonville, justin Herbert
only had. Anyway, it was a disaster, let's not relive it.
We are very happy as a Chargers people that this
is the decision. The key starters will sit in Denver,
which will make your pathway to the number one seed
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that much better. So I'm sure that everybody in Denver
is just as happy as we are.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yes, everyone in Denver here is happy. But I know
there's another guy in charge of country who is definitely happy,
and that is Durham James. How was this kind of
relationship between Jesse Mentor and Durham James really kind of
help him the sin As a defensive player.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Derwin James will tell you that jesse Mincher and the
defense that he runs well, first of all, it's built
around letting Derwin do what Derwin does. But even if
Derwin James wasn't here, jesse Minter specializes in looking at
a player and allowing that player to do what he
does best. Not trying to take a player and fit
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it into X, Y or Z system, but to play
to a specific player's advantage, and that is working out
for this defense. It's why jesse Mincher's name has been
batted around as head coach next year in the NFL.
He has taken this team and this defense in a
matter of two years and changed it completely. He says
(02:42):
that he learned that lesson back when he was at
Michigan and they lost to TCU, and they lost to
TCU by enlarged by a very hot young receiver by
the name of Quentin Johnson who now plays for the
Los Angeles Chargers. But he was on that plane ride
home when he said, this defense is so good. What
am I missing? And he went back to fundamentals and
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he went back to just physicality. And that is what
he has brought from Michigan to Los Angeles. This is
a team that plays physical It is what John Jim
Harboss used me and John Harbaugh absolutely love about a defense,
you know, and unfortunately for us, Denzel Perriman, who has
been playing that physical got unfairly penalized by the league
(03:23):
in a two game suspension for playing football, and we
didn't have him against the Texans and it showed, and
we're not going to have him in Denver, but he'll
be back to the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Shannon farre and join us here a Chargers sideline report.
I want to go back to the first part of
what we were talking about, with the deciding to have
several players for the Chargers not play. You said the
fans are supportive of this. It seemed like that to
me when I got on Twitter, not only before this
decision or this announcement happened over the course of the
weekend instance today, it seemed like most Chargers fans have
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been kind of vocally saying this is what we do,
and they brought up to Mike Williams situation, but they
also brought up the fact like, hey, Chargers are already
in and maybe this gives us a path to the Patriots.
Does it seem like the a lot of Chargers fans
are supportive of that idea being the team that they
face in the first round.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
From what I know, we would very much prefer the
Patriots when you look at these two teams on paper.
First of all, the Chargers have beat the Patriots. This
Patriots team by and large. The Chargers beat the Patriots
in Foxborough in December of last year forty to seven.
Justin Herbert was good for three touchdowns. Drake May was there.
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Drake May and what he's done in his second year
is outstanding. What don't the Patriots have They don't have
a pass rush? What don't the Chargers have an offensive line?
If the Chargers don't have to contend with a pass rush. Yes,
they've got a good run defense in New England, but
we don't have to run the ball. We can run
the ball, but we don't have to with the arsenal
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that Joe Ortiz is built up for Justin Herbert following
that loss in Houston last year. It's explosive on its own.
So the Patriots is a much better matchup I think
for this Los Angeles Chargers team than going back to Jacksonville.
Nobody wants to go back to Jacksonville. Nobody wants to
face red heart, red hot Trevor Lawrence right now, and
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that defense and Lea Cohen and no one wants any
of that, and so I think that's what the preference
is from who I from, whove I've spoken to in
Chargers Nation out here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Well, I'm not sure if Quinn Johnston is going to
play in the game on Sunday, But what are your
thoughts about him? And the reason I asked that question
is because obviously he has big playability, but he hasn't
always played up to that particular level.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
But what have you seen from him that to make.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Him somewhat a threat if the Charges are to go
deep into playoffs?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I would respectfully disagree about Q. The only times he
has not played up to his potential is when other
people have been eating on the field. Justin Herbert has
spread it around this season. Like I mentioned, the arsenal
has gotten a lot bigger than it was last year. Yeah,
Q had some early drops in his career, so did
Jerry Rice. Q has played outstanding. He has played great
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and contested catches this year. He's a great deep threat,
He's a fast or, he's a big body. He's great
along the sideline and when Justin Herbert needs him, especially
in the end, zone. You know, Q's got eight touchdown
receptions this season. I mean that's an Antonio Gates number,
all right, So he has done a great job this season.
When the ball gets to Q, the thing is is
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that it's been passed around. It's been passed around to
Will Dissley at tight end. You know, Ronda Gabston at
tight end. It's been passed around with You've got Keenan Allen,
You've got Lad McConkey, who said all the rookie receiving
records in the playoffs last year there in Houston. So
there really is a lot of people for Justin to
distribute the ball to this year, and Q has had.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
A great year last one I have for you, Shan,
really appreciate the time I'm helping us preview this game.
For Justin Herbert and postseason's success that has so far
eluded him, This is an opportunity. This is kind of
a moment in his career. This has been a very
good Chargers team. They've been relatively under the radar. It's
remarkable how good they've been over the course of the year.
(07:17):
Of course this last game, with the exception of that,
they've been very, very good in really all three phases.
So is this what do you think this means for
his legacy this specific moment, Say it's the Patriots coming
up here in a week's what's going to be the
mindset of Chargers fans when they're watching that and it
relates to what they think of Justin Herbert's tenure there.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think we're far away from talking about what Justin
Herbert's legacy is, but right now it's doing everything on
his own with not a lot of help in whatever
room you want to look in. You know, right now
this season it's been the offensive line that you know,
he's playing with six and seventh string guys who have
done their best to try and shore up was an
(08:00):
all pro line. When you look at last season, we'll
just go through the playoffs there with Jacksonville. He was
missing Mike Williams right after that back injury there in
Denver Houston. He's missing any sort of any sort of
receivers and running game. Those are his two playoff games
right there. This time around, he's gonna have to do
with an without an offensive line. You guys have looked
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at the tape. What he's been able to do with
no protection has been superhero stuff. I mean, set aside
all Jim Harbaugh and his superlatives for him being the
best to ever play the game. What he's been able
to do, if you like football, has been what like,
how was he able to make that row off his
back foot, throwing across his body, you know, throwing fades
(08:45):
that land perfectly before receivers even open and the balls
out of his hands. I mean, it's incredible what Justin
Herbert has been able to do. It's magic if you
haven't played along with it. I mean, bo Nix is
so much fun to watch there in Denver. He really
is putting on a show this season and he is.
But Justin Herbert, what he's able to do without any
protection so far, that is his legacy right now, in
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this moment, and it is a masterclass.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well said Sean, and stay with quarterbacks for a quick second.
With Herbert expected to be out, obviously, the start is
going to go to Trey Lance. Expectations for him in
this game. I know the game may not mean anything
to the charges overall, but what would you like to
see from Trey Lance and for him to actually show
against his Walton Broncos defense.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, don't sleep on Trey Lance. I mean, this was
a guy that San Francisco sold itself out for out
of the draft. Trey Lance is also fun to watch.
He's very mobile, he's very athletic, and he's very smart.
He kind of didn't get a fair shake in San
Francisco with injuries and throwing him in the mix there
when he played in preseason. A lot of fun to
(09:50):
what looks like a guy who could could start in
the National Football League. So don't sleep on him. It's
not like a lot of backups that we have been
blessed to watch in the past a week or so.
Trey Lance is the real deal. So he, like I said,
he's mobile, so when he gets out of the pocket,
he is dangerous, no.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Doubt about it. Shannon really appreciate the time, great insight.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Thanks guys, Take care, Ryan and Nick.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
All Right, sounds good, Shannon Farron Chargers sideline. She'll be
on her way out here to Denver. And it sounds
like the Chargers had no interest in playing the Broncos
back to back, which is again, as we talked about
early on in the show, that was a very real
possibility if the Chargers were to play the starters and
they win that game, which, again to our point, Chargers,
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even with their backups, these were paid professionals. They could
find a way to win the game with the Broncos.
Don't show up and prepare to play this game directly.
But if the Chargers would have won this game, they
likely would have seen the Broncos fall to the three seed.
Chargers then cement themselves to the sixth seed, and then
it would have been a rematch here in another week.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, you have to play somewhat of the long game
with your strategy, because watching Justin Herbert play against the
Houston Texas, I mean he was literally running for his
life on every single play. Will Anderson and Danille Hunter
they were doing just that, hunting him up and knowing
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as though they got to him five times and put
him on the ground. But when you look at quarterback kids,
I mean they still punish them after he delivered the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
So why would you.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Go from that to put him in a situation where
you have John Dea, Cooper, Nick Benito, and Zach Allen,
a group of guys who they're looking to get back
on track from a SAX standpoint, and they thinking Okay,
well we're gonna serve you up because we know you
don't have the right pieces on the offensive line. So
all rolls point to great decision by coach Harbaugh. Let
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the Broncos win the game, fight another day, known as
though you have a better matchup orless you feel you
have a better matchup with the.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Patriots, And just think about it.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
The Broncos fans could be rooting for the charge in
about a week or so, right for them to eliminate
the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So how great would that be the Patriots? Do you
have any sacks the Patriots have as a unit as
a team, Broncos are number one of sixty four.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
I would say.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Forty thirty one. Okay, So to Shannon's point, it makes sense,
and she said some digging on it. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
To Shannon's point, this is the Chargers path and it
makes a lot of sense, it really does. You just
said it justin Herbert has been getting abused behind that
offensive line. You put him here in Denver and you're
sort of rolling the dice.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't know if Jim Harbaugh thinks about it in
terms of what happened to Mike Williams. I know the
fan base. Does the fan base absolutely. I remember when
that happened. It was here in Denver and Mike Williams
got hurt, he was done for the season, and they
went to Jacksonville and then they got to that big lead.
I mean, she didn't want to relive it, but we
came lost, but they got to that big lead and
then Jacksonville came back and they ended up winning that game,
and just to Herbert Has, he had to get a
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postseason victory. That's kind of why I asked about the
legacy portion of it, and she's right, maybe that's down
the road, but the point of it is I don't
know if that really weighs on Jim Harbaugh where he
thinks about Mike Williams from a few years ago. But
I know that he looks at this in terms of, well,
this is the number one sack team in the NFL
right now. They're going to be playing at home, highly
highly motivated.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
I don't really have.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Any doubts in my mind that the Broncos are going
to be up for this game.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Like, regardless of who's out there on the field for
the Chargers, the Broncos are going to approach this as
a playoff game. Now, now, there could be a scenario
because when you start finding out all the players that
are not gonna play for the Chargers, maybe you let
your guard down.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Just a little bit. I'm not saying that that won't happen.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
But my anticipation is Sean Payton, based on the fact
that didn't celebrate the AFC West at all, is going
to be like, hey, guys, we have to make a
statement in this game.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
We have to make this a no doubter.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I'm sorry, so now style points matter.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
That's not what I said.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You say, he's basically kind of paraphrase and leave no doubt.
We have to make sure sure that we know let
other people know.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
No, let's let's not make this a fourth quarter nervous
time kind of game.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yeah, that's still translates to like, you have to score
a lot of points style, but the points.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
On your opponent.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
No, but your interpretation, want to say, and it's fine
if you want to interpret it that way. Your interpretation was,
we're doing this so other people think a certain way
about us. No, we're doing this so that we know
by the fourth quarter what we can we can just
know that it's done.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
No more fourth quarter cardiac comebacks.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
This isn't a game you want to do that.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And because the Chargers are still deep enough and there
is talent out there that they could make this an
interesting game. Like it's eleven a half point spread right now,
if I give you the option of either the Broncos
cover or don't.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Which one are you taking Broncos cover?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Real?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I was gonna go the other way because most people
expect the Broncos not to cover. Ever, Hills never cover.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well my expectations, well, at least on spreads like that.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Well, well, yeah, it's like that.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's why when they played the Raiders on Urga Night
Football at the Races of twenty seven, I went far
exceeding what I never do and I went forty five
to ten and then nothing and.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Then playing the Chiefs or is it not?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I said, well, you know what, let me scale back
just so I just I was too far ahead of
my skis thirty.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Five to ten. Didn't get that right. So I can
see and I.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Told Grant this, I can see how fans may think
that way because they hadn't they haven't really seen it.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
This is an opponent that you know going in they're
not starting their starting quarterback and they're having issues on
the offensive line, and there's several other players who are
not going to start. We don't know who those guys are,
but you have to figure that's going to impact the
charges on either side the ball. So this should be
a game where you should.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Pad just thats is it not?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You can, but once again, the win is the most
important thing. So it's like that when we play this
on late earlier about Nick Benito's sack numbers, Chemhays like,
I don't care about sack numbers. We won't wins. And
if the design of the defense that day is to
just keep the quarterback in the pocket, nobody gets upfield.
If we sack him, he runs into a sack. I mean,
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that's gonna happen. But we're not. We're not playing on defense.
And then I think some people on a side note
feel as though that the defense isn't playing very well
as a result of that.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
See, we canna have.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
That conversation, and I've had it with different individuals. The
reason people are feeling that way obviously there was a
drop off not having Brandon Jones.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Let's acknowledge that truth.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Also, the defensive played like lights out all season long.
They've been one of the better teams in the league.
Because it was at one point it was believed that
with the game's remaining that the Broncos pass rush would break.
I think it was it seventy two Bears, you know, No.
Eighty five Bears with their seventy two sacks, But that
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kind of has tapered off somewhat.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Of eight sacks.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I mean, I thought that they would get close to
it versus the Chiefs and then end well against the Chargers,
where you have to see that they have an opportunity
to do that on Sunday. But I understand the why
because they have been playing at such a high level.
When you see any points scored in the opening drive
or points scored period, there's all the the Broncos defense man,
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they're terrible. They're falling off.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
It's like, no, they've been playing at a high level
for so long.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Someone scores a touchdown, it's just like, I mean, the
sky has fallen them, Like, get over.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yourself, you want to hear. This blows my mind. So
the Broncos have sixty four sacks at number one. Next
closest the Browns of fifty one. Okay, use last in
the NFL with eighteen sacks. It's a playoff team. Eighteen sacks.
It's a playoff team. Anc NFC.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Tampa.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yep, they're not a playoff team yet.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well okay, well, I guess I got to put them
up there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Your favorite team, Oh, my favorite team?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Well, I mean San Francisco, San Francisco eight eighteen sacks
and they're still and they have optiny to win the
number one seed in sacks. I don't care what anyone
says or whatever Ryan can sink. They my favorite team.
College Sandahan should receive the Coach.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Of the Year.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
The Jets have twenty six. Wow, the Jets at twenty six.
The Ravens, by the way, twenty eight. Now they've had
some pockets of being a really bad defense this year,
so that's tough. Panthers are at twenty eight, Cardinals are
twenty nine. The Raiders have twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
The Raiders have eleven more sacks than the San Francisco
forty nine ers.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
That says that coaching matters and College Shanahan is doing
a hell of a job.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
The Bengals have twenty nine Sacksayay.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Bingles are not how about that.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, you eventually just run into sacks, right, you play
people and they it just happens.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Just kind of stumbled into Oh I'm sorry, quarterbacks on
the ground stumble into his sack.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That's remarkable.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But again back to what Shannon Farren said, the Patriots
at thirty one sacks, which is like tenth worst.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So you think you could be you can beat that team. Well,
the Patriots are a very good team.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
They're they're fundamentally sound as a defense, and they run the.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Ball very well.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But to the point that she said, last year, Justin
Herbert went into Foxborough and they torched the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
It's a better Patriots team.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Now say, yeah, I know, but but you're thinking now Remarkably,
the Chargers have had success against the Broncos too recently.
The Broncos have not beaten Jim Harbaugh as head coach.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Now it's only three.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Games, Coach Payton, I don't think he's beaten Jim hob.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
No, we just got us Ben. Ben's going to bring
us that stat.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh okay, he loves he loves telling us about that stat.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Did you guys know?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
But anyways, that so I understand the logic of where
she's coming from where the Chargers are coming from in
terms of matchups, because.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's what it's all about. And if you have a
chance to dictate, and you may not always have a
chance to dictate who you play, but the Chargers are
a unique situation because they can.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
We've seen this kind of philosophy use an NBA.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes, we absolutely have often times in NBA, like who's
playing who's number seven? Oh, okay, okay, we're going to
say a couple of players low management, that's right, right,
and then we lose that game and now we got
the perfect matchup.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
This is the equivalent to it. Yes, and this is
what a lot of people have said about the AFC
in general, and the Broncos get lumped into this, and
I think part of it because of we're not used
to seeing the no Patrick Mahomes, no Joe Burrow, maybe
no Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Josh Allen's the most seasoned quarterback in the AFC mix
this year. Maybe you could include Aaron Rodgers, but it's different,
you know, because it's the first year with the Steelers,
or it's just a you it's a different time for
the AFC.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
This is a different season for the AFC.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So the Broncos get lumped in like the Patriots, like
Jacksonville Houston to a certain extent, because these are teams
that don't have a lot of postseason experience. So if
you're one of these teams in the wildcard round right
where you're talking about the Bills, talking about the Chargers
and to a certain extent, the Texans, who are playing
very well right now, you feel like anybody has the
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home field ahead of you, that's a team I'll take.
That's a matchup I'm willing to go for.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Well, I mean, just being transparent, this is arguably the
best year for any team or a quarterback viewed as
being an underdog to now put themselves in the conversation
with other guys who have made the super Bowl because,
like you said, I mean, there's no Patrick Mahomes standing
in your way, and that was kind of the biggest
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hurd on issue for a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
You guys don't like my Is that that? What do
you call it? Yeah? Free money?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Integrity, that's what we call it.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
That's what you call it?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, okay, integrity, I'll buy some.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't think this is something you could purchase. I
don't think so. No, I'm pretty sure you can't.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I'm sure there's an integrity store around or somewhere, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I tell you what, maybe Walmart has it because they
have everything, best selection, best prices. Can't say enough nice
things about Walmart. You gotta go check them out if you.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Haven't already have some integrity.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, can't say enough nice things.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Five seros are Commas free text line. We got Broncos
Country tonight coming up at the top of the our
Grant Smith Eric Delala. They'll be hanging out with you
into the evening. So we're watching Matthew Stafford warm up here.
Final Monday night football game of the regular season. It's amazing,
it's already like done here. We have the fdle week,
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we got Week eighteen games next week and then the postseason.
But final Monday night game Rams and Falcon.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Do you you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Think Matthew Stafford is already the MVP. I think a
big performance from Matthew Stafford tonight with cement it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
But Drake May's five touchdown performance I'll be it against
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Five touchdown performance against the Jets helped his clause, So
I think Matthew Stafford has to have a good game
tonight to really get there.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Stafford has forty touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Listen, man, I know in I hear you, but.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You're well, you're not hearing me. Okay, you're not hearing me.
I just said, Stafford right now leads the league in
touchdowns to the interception ratio. Right, yes, So how can
you somehow put Drake May who Drake only has thirty
and tonight, I mean playing against the Falcons. I mean
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that could even be more for Matthewson, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I think he needs it. I think he needs you.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
He doesn't he needs a big performance tonight. He doesn't
need like a five touchdown performance. But I would say
a good game for him tonight.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
What would you.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Consider a good game for Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, and I'm part of this really quickly. Part of
this is also some East Coast bias, right understanding that
Drake May plays out there in New England? Am I wrong?
Here we go again? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Every single time? East Coast bias?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You might be in the Hall of Fame if you
were a jet. No, oh wait, you were a jet.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yes, that means you would have to win more games
because you know.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Okay, anyway, yes, no, no, don't don't make the people
in New York hate me, man.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But I say that there's a lot of people out
there that are enamored with Drake May and how he
is playing. So I believe that Matthew Stafford, though by
the numbers, has had a spectacular season.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He plays in LA.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It's not the same.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Okay, Well, one guy is younger than the other guy,
and we're talking about the ability to do it at
a high level for a longer period of time. And
if we're comparing those two, the guy who has definitely
done that and continues to excel.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
As Matthew Stafford. Oh, by the way, he started the
season with a bat issue as he did.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
How doesn't that feel like forever ago? That whole debate
about will he even finish the season forty touchdowns?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
And also they didn't lose. I mean, he didn't play
the best in the fourth quarter of that great game
with the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Well it's not his fault. His defense couldn't get stops, but.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
His fault specialty is give up the touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
No I know, but they sort of fizzled as far
as the Seattle defense showed up and started playing better.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So his defense let him down, and then his defense
let exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
But he is still If I had a boat, he
would be my MVP. No, no, no bias included.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Okay, m VP.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I think I'd probably give it to him too. Absolutely,
it's very How about this?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
How about this? You and I both have Heisman votes.
If this was the Heisman, who would get it?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I can't tell you that, Drake. May you know the rules.
I know the rules. The first rule of fight club.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Don't talk about fight club.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
We don't talk about it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yes, I was testing you. I was testing you were
to send the audio to the Heisman people.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I wouldn't do that. Ryan Right, Why tilted head?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You don't you know what?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Wait a minute, Ryan, do that to you?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Listen to hour three of the podcast. Around five thirty seven.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
An anonymous donor right donated some audio.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That's what happened. Then I get a I get a
little message in my email inboxy thank you for your
yours service as of December. But loose lit let's sak ships.
I don't even know what's talking about. Yeah, I bet
you don't.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Hey, the Nuggets are getting underway against the heat and
they lost what a heartbreaker they lost to Orlando a
couple of nights ago. Starting off this what is a
nine game road swing here for the Nuggets. Now they're
about to get healthier.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Aaron Gordon's gonna be back a hamstring, Christian Brown's going
to be back, probably on some.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Limit restrictions. Min Yeah, a little bit little management, but
getting a little healthier. Twenty two nine. How do we
feel about the Nuggets right now? They are there one
and a half point favorite time.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I like the Nuggets against uh, the heat.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The heat doesn't really have what they that's your heat,
by the way, that's where it'd be fine. And I'm
being honest, right, Yeah, I like what the Nuggets have
been able to do because that's hard when you have
multiple guys who are role players and major contributors who
are out with injuries. But it also tests your roster
because a lot of the guys who are nearly going
to get a lot of playing time, they get a
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chance to work and David Alliman, he gets a chance
to play with his his personnel grouping and say okay, well,
stars are backups because they're gonna need every single guy
when it comes to the plass because once again you
still have OKC. And I mean you think about san
Antonio Spurs Winby so good, that's gonna be a problem too.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I like the Nuggets, man, I like that. I like
their chances.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
The West is just I mean, not loaded, anybody needs
me to tell them that, but loaded. I mean san
Antonio second. Right now, they're ahead of the Nuggets in
the West.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Again.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They did some of this work without Winmby. Wimby was
gone for several weeks there. Now he's back and he's
playing phenomenal. They're only one game up, so it's all
gonna be pretty close. But you know, there's some teams
on the outside looking in that I think we'll we'll
eventually make a little bit of a run. I'm most
surprised about Dallas because Cooper Flag looks phenomenal, but now
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with a d he's he's.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Banged up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
It's always freaking hurt, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
But like Golden State, they're sixteen and sixteen, You think
that they'd be a little bit better.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
No, they that team is.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Aging out, feels like it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Maybe that's why you're aging out and the Minnesota is
still good, but they lost to us.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
That's always a hell of a matchup when those two
teams get together. It is Minnesota Nuggets. Yes, because the
ross was almost like mirror images of one another. Man, Well,
he scored like forty four. The last time Jamal had
thirty five, and the cool the Yogas had like fifty six.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, you know, a triple doubles, fifty six, twenty and
fifty gay yeah, or sixteen fifteen, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
It was.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It was remarkable.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
The first time in NBA history it's ever happened, a
fifty point fifteen to fifteen triple double. I d man.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
By the time he finally hangs it up, he's going
to have so many accolades and he's going to have
rewritten history on Big Man. Right, twenty years from now,
you and I will get the chance to say what
you were trying to share with your daughter.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I remember when when this happened.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, and I said this the other day that we're
gonna we'll look back fondly at the Nicola yokach Era.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But I will never be like this, right, no matter
what whatever. The next iteration of the Nuggets is, you'll
never get.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
It while they're last.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
That's right. And it reminds me a lot of the
Peyton Manninger right in a lot of ways because when
it was here, it was as a rocket ship.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It was amazing. Every year you're a contender because he's here, so.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
It was a golden era. Would you say of Broncos football.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
That's exactly right, you guys. He has to watch the
Lway documentary yet.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It's good. I was too hung up on st No,
I understand priorities.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yes, yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's very very good.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Now I will say this, I did see the trailer
of it and Rod Smith and not last week we
talked about it when when we were both leaving the
station and I told him, I said, well, people need
to watch it just from the clip that I saw,
to get a full understanding of what it is like
to be a professional athlete. Everyone wants it because they
see the glitz and glamour, but they don't see the
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sacrifice that comes along with it, because you give up
time with your family and that can impact you and
your kids and your wife in a certain way, and
just hearing some of the guys who play with John
Elwig talk about that and you can see it from
the low cours. I saw the documentary, it is crushing.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
What I like the most about it, and I know
we're gonna have a break here, but I like the
most about it is is you did get a picture
into his world more than just the star quarterback super
Bowl winner. Like you got into stuff with his family,
like his twin died, right, and like his relationship with
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his father, which we knew about right because of how
famous you know, Jack Elway is, but to really get
his side and sense of all of it right, and
then his relationship with his wife at the time and
his kids and how they viewed it. There was a moment,
a moment too when he won the first championship against
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Green Bay and one of his daughters said it was relief.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And I can imagine for that family living with that weight.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I know the Broncos fans felt to two of
all of those Super Bowls that they just got abused
in and then to finally get over the hump and
not have that be the legacy because you know like
that is the legacy until it's not. And the legacy
was well, great regular seasons runs to the super Bowl,
but then when you got there, couldn't get it done.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And just think about it really quickly, the amount of
pressure associated with that and him being the quarterback of
the Denver Broncos and constantly hearing that ye well John
l wa.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But so it's a tough light.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Really remarkable.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So tomorrow the program, we'll of course check it with
Garrett Bowles right at the top of the show. I'm
sure he's gonna be in a pretty good mood coming
off of another win for the Broncos. Heading into the
final regular season game against the Chargers. Of course, that
looks a little bit different now. It looks like the
Chargers are gonna be resting quite a few players, including
their starting quarterback, Justin Herbert. We're gonna have Shelby Harrison
at four thirty and then five o'clock Rod Smith in studio.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
You're gonna miss Rod Smith in the studio here. He's
gonna be so sad.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Nick, I'll see him and I'll talk about him when
he leaves. Okay, I mean I'll get in here so
I can talk to him to his face.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
You guys just have such classic back and forth.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
He play a receiver.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Why do you say it like that?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Because I said it that way, and I would tell
him if you said he played RECEIVERA.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, no, no, mean you said he played receiver like
your your nose, everything's scrunched up in your face, like
you put into a limon.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Well, I mean sometimes Rob was one of these guys,
but sometimes off some guys think too highly of themselves.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yes, you would never say that about Dave though, right.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
I would have to get to know to day in
that particular way. Okay, if I did, and I saw
that in and I would tell them too.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yes, good luck with that. On the text line here,
Gary Carlo, Colorado Springs listening while driving the Gold Coast
to Sydney, Australia. Go Gary, Wow, that's pretty cool. That's
the Heart radio app. Really is amazing.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'm assuming that's long range.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I was gonna say, I, okay away as a signal
goes pretty far I Sydney, Australia might be that's pushing
it far.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But the iHeart Radio app, I'm assuming it's working. Thank you, Gary,
appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Thank you. Gary, appreciate you listening, buddy.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Nick heck yas Stranger Things, I know what you're gonna
be watching New Year's Eve.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
You're doing right.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
There's gonna be some good college football playing that night,
an Io State Miami.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
I'm not watching that. I'm watching Stranger Things, and if
you don't watch it, I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Hey, you're gonna forego the college football playoff as a
Heisman voter?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yes, because the Heisman is over. Oh, we've already cast
our votes, you know.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Mendoz are one and that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yes, Okay, Well I'm gonna be watching Ohiose State Miami
on a Year's Eve and then New Year's Day, of course,
is a great slate of football.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'll be watching those as well. But I'm a little surprised,
but I guess it tracks for you that you're gonna
watch Stranger Things over that.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Of course, why not?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Can I can always follow the game on my trusty phone, Ryan,
so you can also watch Stranger Things later?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
No, No, look, man, I'm a good father to my kids.
My kids want to watch it. We're gonna watch it when.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
It comes out, all right, you clean the house before, Oh,
they do.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That all the time.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yes, that's a must.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's how they get fed.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
The important question is will you be spoiling the Stranger
Things finale immediately afterward?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
It's like you wear this past week that's right, great,
great question, Grant, Oh great great?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
What do you mean this past weekend?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
What did I say all over your Instagram?
Speaker 6 (36:15):
It was just different little memes about things that happened
in Stranger Things. Maybe not everyone has seen episodes five
through seven.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
The only thing I put out there was leading up
maybe the actors during their readings certain blooper scenes. I
did nothing to give a ray anything in the movie.
I didn't do anything, well, not a sink a thing.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Your Instagram followers would disagree. This was a lot of fun, Nick,
great job is all always appreciation yep, Grant, appreciate you
as well. Looking forward to hearing you and Eric Delala
coming up next on BCT
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