2025-09-29 KSR PRE-SHOW

Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk UK Football's loss to South Carolina, Reds in the playoffs, and the Super Bowl Halftime performer has been announced.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It is the KSR Pre Show, Monday, September twenty ninth.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Shannon to the dude.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Italics Fine Italian Donning in Lexington. Billy, our Sports is
in Lexington right now in the studio. How was your weekend, Billy?
Good morning, Good morning Shannon.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
It was.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It was good for the most part.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
We'll get into maybe some of the lower parts of
the weekend today on the show. But I'm a little
tired this morning because I stayed up to watch your
Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys go to a
forty forty tie game. Didn't until like twelve fifteen last night.
Shannon's un american for a game to end at a
tie like that.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
If you stay up for that, of course, you and
me both you know, you stay up late. That's that's
the trickery right there. You stay up late on a
Sunday night in the game ends the way it started.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
A tie, Like wasted three four hours in my life.
I mean, I didn't know what to do out here.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
If we could go to like the college football mentality
of there's no ties, let's just play this thing out
till we get a winter, I would be happy with that.
There's nothing more frustrating than a tie, especially on a
Sunday night when it's a late game and you sit
up late just to watch that and it ends up
forty to forty, which, by the way, which, by the way,
at least we got to score a GAMI out of
the deal. Oh yeah, So the first time, I guess
in NFL history you had a forty to forty final

(01:31):
in a football game, if that means anything to you.
But yeah, it was very frustrating, almost as frustrating as
watching Kentucky South Carolina. We'll get into that in just
a minute, but before we do, I have to tell you,
Billy that over the weekend I made a return trip
to Levenon, went back to ham Days.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I told you I was going to cut enough of
that country here.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't think you believe me when I said that
I was going to get some country ham and get
the country Ham breakfast, just like the old days when
I was a kid used to go up to Lebanon
and check it all out and it was a lot
of fun. So I will tell you that it was
definitely worth another nearly hour trip for me to go
back to Lebanon. Get in lined. You go to the
big white tent. They got the ham, they got the eggs,

(02:09):
the cinnamon apples. Totally worth the trip back there.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, if anybody could have seen how many breakfast sandwiches
you had on Thursday morning, I think that you would
have been a betting favorite.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
To come back to the Country Ham Festival over the weekend. Yeah.
Like I said, I was just there to eat you.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I mean you were scarfing stuff down Thursday morning, and
the guy's gotta eat man. I was hungry, barely able
to talk in between bites of biscuit and country ham
or sausage. So I mean you were practically raised there, Shannon.
So you're just kind of returning home. Was it as
good as the second time it was last week?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I think it was maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't want to say anything disparaging to the folks
that were there with us. I think it was better
because you had even more ham like they really they
loaded you up and there was a great crowd there.
I was really surprised how many people showed up that
early on a Saturday morning. I guess they had the
five K, two k or whatever it was that they ran.
It's the five K, so I guess there was a

(03:03):
lot of people out early for that, but a ton
of people. It felt like the entire city of Lebanon.
And then some were out there and it's grown to
be much bigger festival than what I remembered it day.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
As a kid.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Did anybody come up to you and say that Billy
got robbed in the hog calling contest?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I mean it was not one person even mentioned your name.
I did have several KSR listeners that were out there
and said hello to me. But now one person said
that Billy got robbed in the hog calling contest. I
think that they believed that the results were as they
should have been. Ryan won the hog calling contest, takes
the trophy, and he took your trophy too. By the way,

(03:41):
he still got your haybell tossing trophy. I think he
said he's going to take it and display it at
KS Bar and Grill, but I don't know where you're
gonna put it at.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
If you'd like to make a shrine to the twenty
twenty four athletic achievement of the KSR Habel toss that's
absolutely fine. But they must have had that conversation about
the the scandal of me not winning the hog calling
before you got there.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, you know, there is a scandal or I don't
want to call it scandal, let's call it controversy surrounding
the Haybell tossing.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I don't think they really wanted just to mention it.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Then.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Do you think we could talk about it now? Do
you have details? I mean owns, not a.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Whole lot of details, but apparently there was a sponsor
that was involved in it that some of the guys
that were contestants and the Haybel tossing necessarily didn't like
for some reason, so they decided that they wanted to
sort of branch off and have their own Haybel tossing competition.
So you basically had, according to the scuttle butt out
there in Lebanon, guys that were former champions that normally

(04:38):
would compete in the haybell tossing because they didn't like
the sponsor that was involved, decided, you know what, we
don't want to be a part of the official haybel
tossing contest. We're going to go off and do our
own hayebel tossing contests. So that ended up, I guess,
with the official contest not having some of the best
hay belt throwers in Lebanon being involved in it. So

(04:59):
there was that controversy. See what was going on that
we didn't talk about on Thursday, But if you're in Lebanon,
I feel like, if you know, you.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Know allegedly, I mean, who knows what really happened. Shannon
seems to have the team. But we had our very
own live golf PGA Tours, that's right, we did, starting
their own league and stuff like that. But I guess
we'll we'll repeat that contest at some point. And enjoyed
being there Thursday and also Friday by water Farms and
Matt's going to return on Friday at Shady Rays in Louisville.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So it's gonna be a big week, that's right.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Big week of KSR shows coming up, and then tomorrow
we got Rex. I mean, I'm sorry Rex, Richie Richie
by the way, who was left off of Ryan's.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
All our team and he want to hear about it.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
And Rex Chapman was left off of Ryan's team too,
if you didn't listen. On Friday, Ryan gave us some homework.
He said, come up with the best basketball team all time,
only using players first names that are your first letter.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
The first first letter is your name exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So like for me as I had to come up with,
like you know, say Sam Boo and Shay Gills is Alexander,
et cetera. Ryan came up with his team didn't include
friend of the Show and beloved Wildcat Richie Farmer, nor
did it include King Rex.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Didn't even mention Rex's chap and completely just left him.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Hockey to guys, I mean, how do you miss the
cut in Kentucky, guys, Bee was a little bit sparse.
I had Brad Caliperry in the starting lineup, So I
don't think we're gonn Winning many games was not given, right, Yes,
not giving that's rightough, So enjoyed that anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
All right, so let's talk Kentucky football. Kentucky loses a
frustrating game. I mean, I think every loss is frustrating.
They lose another game to South Carolina thirty five thirteen.
Where do we start, I mean the first quarter, I
guess all things looked pretty well. Seth mcgallan ran for
a touchdown, then immediately threw a fastball and hit the

(06:47):
South Carolina quarterbacks grandfather, who was sitting in a wheelchair,
right in the shoulder in the end zone. That wasn't
a good luck but he did, to his credit, go
back and personally apologize after the game. But after that,
I mean, Kentucky's up ten to seven in the first quarter.
Then things just kind of fell apart. They go down
twenty eight ten at halftime. It felt like from that
point on the game was over because I just didn't

(07:09):
have enough confidence in Kentucky's offense to be able to
get to twenty eight points, even if their defense held
them scoreless. In the second half, you had Bowley who
just looked all out of sorts out there. He fumbled
which led to a scoop and score for South Carolina.
He threw a pick six and just did not look
good overall. Billy, and I hate to say it. But

(07:29):
the scenario that I kind of spoke of a few
weeks ago of let's say Cutter Bully comes out, looks
good against Eastern Michigan, doesn't have a good game against
South Carolina. Now you've got Zach Calizada over on the bench, healthy,
ready to go. What do you do I feel like
after that loss and after Cutter Bowley? I don't know
do you still stick with Cutter Bowley? Is he still

(07:50):
your quarterback? There's so many talks of that. There's talks
of what do we do with Mark Stoops. You're losing
another game? You look ahead, the regular season scaled doesn't
get any easier. You get Georgia, you got Texas, you
got Tennessee still ahead in the next three weeks. It's
not going to get any easier from here. What do
you make of what happened on Saturday? Just another tough

(08:10):
loss on the road, A game that was a swing
game that you feel like you could have won when
the thing started but then quickly got out of hand.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Well, you started with the most bizarre moment, which was
McGowan rifling that ball at that poor man in the stands,
which happens to be the grandfather of Sellers. Like you said,
he said he was aiming for the wall and then
in the heat of the moment, it just got a
little bit higher.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But man, it was poor guy. I was just trying
to stand there. I'm out of a game.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I no Seller's grandfather was wearing a jersey, but he's
not in the game. You don't have to throw the
football at him as hard as.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
You can chucked it at him and Kentucky collapsing after that.
I'm not really blaming this on Cutter. It's not like
I'm out on Cutter after this game. Kind of a
tough place for your first SEC start. I get that
this is more of an overall big picture thing for
me because Kentucky has now lost four straight to South
Carolina and seven straight conference games. I believe they've lost

(09:03):
eleven of their last twelve conference games. It's been over
calendar year since Kentucky has won an SEC game, and
that's unacceptable. Call Stoops a victim of his own success
if you want, but what it is is what it is.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
The program is at a.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Point where you need to get to six, seven, eight
wins even with the schedule that Kentucky has, and this
was a very winnable game. South Carolina gets blown out
by Vanderbilt. They lose to Missouri. You know, Kentucky is
in a good spot to steal one here, and the
game's over before halftime. Four turnovers in the second quarter.

(09:38):
They put, you know what, fourteen points on the board
in a span of forty five seconds in the second quarter.
And you're just looking for signs of life, show a response,
show us that you are you can weather a storm,
that you're a better team than you were before. And Shannon,
last year they were losing one score games in the
fourth quarter. This year they're not even getting to the

(09:59):
fourth court or and opportunities where they can steal games.
And that is the most demoralizing thing and indicator that
maybe the.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Stoops era is over at Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
If you want to talk buy out, we can, but
I think it's a little foolish. It's up to thirty
eight million dollars. I believe it's not happening. Stace Barnhardt
is not going to fire the all time winning his
coach in Kentucky football history. Mid season last year, he
said it was a one year blip for Mark Stoops,
so obviously I think we know where his head is at,
but just really demoralizing that this team could not compete.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
This is a defense that ranks sixteenth out of sixteenth
in the SEC when it comes to total yards allowed.
That's not Stoop's ball, that's not Brad White ball. So like,
when you're.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Looking for optimism and things that you could point to
where Kentucky could build off of this and you know,
still have a decent season, it's just tough to find.
And then when South Carolina's trolling you on social media afterwards,
Shane Beemer's bringing up old KSR YouTube clips that he's
watched over the past week. You know that that is
what's going to make a fan base check out. And

(11:05):
I think that's what you heard on the postgame show.
Drew and I hosted the post game afterwards at one
in the morning, and it wasn't an anger that was
from coming from the callers.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It was a more dejection, a.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Maybe a come to a realization that this season can't
be what some may have dreamed of. But Shannon, all
they can do is pick up the pieces and get
back to work.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
As Mark Stoops would.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Say, how many times can you hear Let's get back
to work before it's like, you know what, we can
work as much as we want, is it really gonna
matter because we're not seeing any difference. We're not seeing
any improvement. When they scored twenty eight points at halftime,
I knew the game was over because I did not
believe in Kentucky's offense to think that they had the
capability of scoring eighteen more points and at least time
this thing up and putting it over into overtime.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's the problem. I knew it wasn't going to happen,
Just wasn't.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Kentucky averaged two yards per play over the last nine
possessions of the game.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Two yards per play.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Let that I think over the last nine possessions of
the game, zero points, four turnovers. That's now eleven consecutive
Power Conference games without scoring more than two offensive touchdowns
in a game. Something has got to change because that
is not a formula you're going to win any SEC
game in. I don't care who you're playing in the SEC,
you're not going I don't know that you're going to

(12:20):
beat anybody outside the SEC plan like that. That's something
about that has got to change. You got to rely can't.
You can't rely on your defense so much and special
teams to score touchdowns for you and win games because
the offense is just not getting it done.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
No, it's not, and I think Bush Hampden has to
take a lot of blame for that. During the game,
Eric Wolford got another raise, Shannon, despite Kentucky giving up
six sacks in the game. You know, we made and
we poked and laughed before the season started, but we
almost saw this coming. And I think to a lot
of people's thoughts, Kentucky may be right where we expected

(12:55):
them to be. Lose to Ole Miss in South Carolina.
You win against Toledo in Eastern Michigan, So could your
season still be you know, theoretically on the board.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Sure, but the schedule is just brutal.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Man.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Now you're a twenty one and a half when underdog
at Georgia October, you've got to play Texas and Tennessee
as well. You think that there's just going to magically
come together, It's and that stinks.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, there's no other way to put it.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, the game started on ESPN News because the
Tennessee game wasn't over. Yeah, and Shannon, I had to
look over because pillow fighting was on.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Professional pillow fighting.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
There's literally a professional pillow fighting the league that now exists.
They have been more competitive than the Kentucky South Carolina
I think it was they were slugging it out on
each other. There were some pretty cool moves that you know,
they were kind of doing, like spinning.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Like back hands of the pillows.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, and like I mean it was I mean it
was interesting, there's no doubt, but I mean indicative of
the season.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'll be honest with you. At halftime, I kind of
wanted to go back to the pillow fighting. I thought
that was more more entertaining to watch the Kentucky football.
But you know, one thing I didn't know about South
Carolina's defense, Billy.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I don't know if you picked up on this.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Their defensive players hit hard, like really really hard, Like
they were smashing Bowley a couple of times they brought
him down, and like they just feel like they hit
at a different level than what Kentucky's defensive players were
hitting at. I don't know if you picked up on
any of that at all, But like when Kentucky got
hit South Carolina, they got like they got their money's

(14:24):
worth on those some of those hits.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Well, that defensive end, I believe it is his name, Stuart.
It's going to be a first round draft pick. He
is really good. But that's not like an unbeatable South
Carolina team.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's what I keep going back.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
They just lost to Andy, they just lost to Missouri.
You know, Kentucky's catching these teams off of losses. Did
you really think South Carolina was going to lose three
straight and then, you know, lose to Kentucky at home.
Now you look ahead to next week, you got Georgia
who just lost at home to Alabama. I mean, if
ever there was a time you thought you met might
catch Georgia sleeping, next weekend's not going to be it

(14:57):
coming off a loss against Alabama. So things are just
going to get tougher and tougher from here, And unfortunately,
I don't think we have a clear solution to the problem.
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Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yes, something would add I was just gonna say.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
I mean, Kentucky scores ten points in the first two
drives and then only ninety one total yards after those
first two drives.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean, it's things happen right. Sometimes you turn
over the ball.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Sometimes a team can score fourteen points in forty five seconds.
But it's about how you respond, how you galvanize together
and stay as a team.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
And the fact that that game was not closed. That's it. Man.
It's another thing to lose.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's another thing to get completely blown out and embarrassed.
And Kentucky had that happened to him. On Saturday eight
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
Shan him the Dude Billy Relige.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
David on Twitter rights just and says, let's talk about
the buyout. Arkansas pulled the trigger. Oklahoma State continues to
clean out with the defensive coordinator. UK has more to
lose with lack of reaction, all those ideas in the
survey or meaningless of no one wants to attend. Well,
we could talk about the buyout, but I don't think
it's going to matter until at least the end of
the season. I think you got to at least play

(16:18):
the season out, see what happens. You know, is it
going to be a four win season? Can they get
the five? Will they get to six? Doesn't look like
that right now. If you're going to get to six,
you have to win games against South Carolina. You know,
you have to win those swing games that you feel
like you can get. I don't feel confident at all
in any of the next three games. So then you
start talking, Okay, well, which games are you going to win?

(16:39):
You're going to beat Vanderbilt, who, by the way, is
now what five and zero ranked, and will play Alabama
as a ranked team with Alabama being the ranked team
for the first time sin's nineteen thirty something.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
I mean, you know, isn't.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
That so yeah, So you know, we could talk about it,
but I think it's a moot point because Kentucky is
not going to do any thing until the end of
the season. I would say at the earliest that buyout
isn't the what thirty how many million, thirty thirty eight
thirty eight million, thirty eight millions to buy out? So yeah,
I don't think it's worth talking about until maybe the

(17:14):
end of the season, where then I'm not even sure
you know that we're going to be talking about Mark
Stoop's being fired. I think it's definitely going to have
to wait until the end of the season, whether we
like it or not.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Reilly, well, a lot of seasons have been saved, you
could say, by beating Louisville at the end of the year.
We'll Kentucky be able to do that this year. A
Louisville team that's been very up and down this year.
But you know you you were the optimistic one before
the season started and during the season, Shannon, has that
changed it all for you? Does it matter if yeah
were five wins? I mean, is it that big of

(17:46):
a difference overall?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
This was the game that I really felt like you
could flip the pessimistic fan base, you know, the fans
that thought that this team was going to maybe win
four games this year. I felt like, this is a game,
especially with Cutter Bowley going on the road, tough road environment.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
He's the quarterback of your future.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, we got a good look at our future and
it doesn't look good if he's the quarterback of the
future and I'm not gonna again, I don't want to
blame all of this on Cutter Bowley, but he did
fumble the ball, he did throw two picks. He didn't
throw a single touchdown, So I mean some of it's
got to be on him.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Well, it sounds better to say, let's go to Cutter
when he's the backup. The backup's the most popular person
on campus every year, right because of this reason, and
a lot of times it's not that easy. But I'm
still pretty optimistic about the kid. He's just got to
have a little bit of a quicker clock in his brain, right,
get rid of that ball. I think a lot of
those sacks are on him, but we're talking about the
offensive line, Schaiez Pete, who has been great this year.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I mean, he get all on that ball. Yeah, I
mean that's another thing too. How does he not fall
on that ball? As big as he is, couldn't land
on this little football. I mean he jumped on it
and it kind of just like went off to the
left side. South Carolina scoop and score. I mean it
changes everything, right, and then I mean the game, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
It swings the momentum.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
You can see just the body language of Kentucky after that.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It just it's demoralizing.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And again, you know, going back to talking about Kentucky
not only losing, but losing in frustrating ways seems to
be their mo for Kentucky football. Now, we did talk
about Bob, we did talk about Arkansas. We mentioned or
he mentioned Arkansas on that tweet. Bobby Patrino is now
back at Arkansas after they fired Sam Pittman.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
What a world?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I mean, can you believe at Arkansas? You would think
would just look at what happened at Louisville when Bobby
Patrino came back from Bobby two point zero and see
how that didn't work out. Desperation on Arkansas's point to
bring back Bobby Patrino midway through the season, it sure
feels like it to me.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, And he's already cleaning house, I mean, promoted from
offensive coordinator to head coach. He's already fired the DC
and a lot of people on that staff. He's going
to do it Bobby's way, and I think Arkansas knows that.
You know, will he be in a neck brace at
any point during this time as interim head coach? I'm
not sure, But depends on if he still has that
motorcycle in a secret girlfriend but in the athletics department.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I think it was.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
But at the same time, how many coaches have this
type of story that Bobby P has, returning not once
but twice to two different schools like this. I mean,
I can't think of a coach killing something like this,
and for somebody that had so much baggage at each
place too. It's just such a bizarre football journey. We
just saw a documentary on Lane Kiffen in The Many
Lives of Lane. I can't wait for the Bobby P

(20:25):
doc if there's not one already out there.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
About all this madness.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
But I mean, Arkansas is just trying to get rid
of the old regime, right. It doesn't matter who's taking
the head coaching the job. It's just as long as
they get rid of Sam Pittman. And some you know,
football fan bases that have those mega expectations would be
willing to fire a coach midseason. I just don't see
Mitch Barnhardt doing that.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Right, you mentioned Lane Kiffin. I'm a little little upset
at Lane. He said to everybody, he's got the victory,
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now I guess he's got bragging rights over his future.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
What son in law? I guess right?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
And did you see what he did in the game
went weeks as we've been talking about it all last week,
he puked mid game and caught his mouthguard while he
was puking.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's talent. Put it back. That is talent right there.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
He's like, what happened? And Lane Kiffin tweeted tempo. I
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We will go to the phones in just a minute,
but first we've got to mention Billy. The Cincinnati Reds
have somehow, some way made the playoffs. They lost yesterday
in their last game against Milwaukee, but it didn't matter.
Because the Mets got shut out by the Marlins, and
now the Cincinnati Reds are going to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
It all starts tomorrow. And here's the crazy thing about this.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You know, Matt has been such a fan of the
Reds all season long, talking about the Summer of Velly.
It's very likely that the Reds will be out of
the playoffs before Matt can return from South Africa. I mean,
I'm just saying they're playing the Dodgers. Let's say they
lose the first two games the series over it's a
three game series. So there's a good chance that the

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Reds will have made the playoffs and then got knocked
out of the playoffs before Matt can get back home
to watch it. I don't know if he's able to
watch it over there or not. I don't know his
situation in South Africa, but there's a good chance that
the Reds will be out of the playoffs by the
time he returns on Friday.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
I love this detail. We talked to him Att yesterday
for the NFL Show. He was in a tent in
the bush in South Africa at Kruger National Park. There
no but he was whispering, trying not to wake people
up to do this NFL show. During the show, the
Reds clinch the playoff berth and he's celebrating trying not
to wake people up late at night in South Africa.

(23:58):
So you know, hopefully they're still in the playoffs by
the time the guy gets back. But how about the
Reds backing their way in with the Mets losing getting
shut out against the Marlins. Talk about demoralizing. I mean,
all you had to do was win and you get
shut out like that. So congratulations to the Reds. Terry
Francona comes out of retirement leads them to the playoffs.
It's a pretty cool story. And for all the fans

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that gave up and during the summer of Ellie, they
just made a little comeback and made their way into
the postseason. And they also liked how the Guardians made
it into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, I was, I was gonna mention that, so the Guardians.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, most people probably listening haven't been following the
standings as we go throughout the baseball season with Cleveland
and Detroit. But Cleveland, we're down fifteen and a half
games in July and come back and win the division
over the Tigers and now have to play the Tigers
in the first round of the playoffs this three game series.

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So either way, something historical, I guess is going to happen,
because Detroit can then knock Cleveland out of the playoffs
after giving up a fifteen and a half game lead,
or like Cleveland can just float out, embarrassed Detroit even
more than what they've already done by not only coming
back and winning the division after being fifteen and a
half back, but also knocking them out of the playoffs

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in the very first round.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Billy, I love the matchup in the first round just
because of those storylines. The Guardians get into the playoffs
with a bottom of the ninth walk off hit by
pitch against the Rangers. The place goes nuts realizing that
they've just made the playoffs, and the guys gets to
walk home for the winning run. It was a cool scene,
and I like those matchups. A little worried about the
Reds though, having to play the Dodgers anybody else outside

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the Dodgers, I'd.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Be a little bit more. All of those games were
late night games with the being on the West Coast too.
Oh that's yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Hey, if I'm nine to two eight zero twenty two
eighty seven. Let's go to the phones and talk to Gork.
You're at first, Hey, Gork.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
RK, Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (25:54):
Man?

Speaker 9 (25:56):
The cats?

Speaker 7 (25:57):
I'm not I'm not ready to jump off the bowling train.
I think he's got to hone in and and fix
some of his mistakes because the interception he was had
to get the ball over a guy and and was
just off on having a possible completion instead of having it
tapped up in the air. And he's got to have
a better clock in his head because of those six

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acts that he had, I don't know how many of
them that he had less than than four seconds before
he got hit, because there weren't many The old line
could have played better, but they were. They were keeping
guys off of him for for a little while. He's
just got to have a one that one big hit
he took. I remember he rolled right like four steps

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and then stepped forward and try to avoid if one
man then got nailed from the backside. I'm like, dude,
you've got to go.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, you can imagine how
about it would have been if you didn't have him
playing against Eastern Michigan and then the bye week, you know,
to get ready for the South Carolina game, and it's
and that's another thing, Bill, You have all those things
to take into consideration, and you still get blown out
on the road. Thanks for the call, Gork, We appreciate it.
And now he's got to go on the road to Georgia.
We assume that he's going to be the starting quarterback.

(27:12):
I mean, I don't haven't heard anything else that would
indicate otherwise. But for Cutter, it's not going to get
any easier in these games coming up.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Well, you know, I believe bo Allen and maybe even
Calzado were warming up at one point in the game
versus South Carolina, like you said, because he got to
play versus Eastern Michigan in a bye week, also a
whole year in the system with Bush Hampdon, maybe he
would have been a little bit better prepared. But I
go back to maybe something Stoop said on the postgame
radio is that this team is a very small margin

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for error, and this team has to play really well
around Cutter, not really the opposite. I don't know if
Cutter can absolutely lead this team if they're having a
bad performance, to a big victory. It's got to be
people playing well around the young quarterback.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
And I think the team let cut her down yesterday
Dennis for two days. Hey, Dennis, you're.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
On go ahead. Yeah, I'm pretty much giving the pope
on this little ball program, on this team a program.
Be honest with you, I've been a season ticket holder
since ninety eight and I don't know. I just I've
just about lost all hope.

Speaker 9 (28:17):
Bowdley.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
In my opinion, I don't know if he is the future.
Even when Kentucky scored on the first two positions of
the game and they were just running through South Carolina's
defense like they didn't have a defense. Bowley, I saw
him make two pass passing throws that were mistakes that
he got away with. He threw in the double coverage,
he got away from that one. He threw it the
triple coverage, he got away with that one. So I mean, yeah,

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they got to play better rounding. But the kid, and
I realized he's a freshman, but he made a lot
of mistakes.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Saturday night, Dennis, you say you gave up all hope.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And I'm not picking on you because I feel like
a lot of the fan base gave up hope on
this team before we even played the first game. But
were you, like, what were your expectations going into the season,
did you think that this team could get to six
or how many wins did you expect going into the season.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
I picked them to go. I think my expectations realistically
was five, hoping to get to six. I knew in
order to get to six, they was probably gonna have
to beat It was gonna have to beat South Carolina
or Ole Miss or both of those two teams to
do it.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, and now the past to five and six is
looking tougher and tougher. I mean, you can still get
I guess Auburn on the road. If you want a dream,
you can get Florida. I guess at home. They're looking
not as good as they have in the past, but
still just to get to five is going to be tough.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Thanks for the call, Dennis. We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah, and you say that, and we're hopeful that Kentucky
can steal a game and get to five or six.
But Kentucky has lost seven straight conference games. They've lost
eleven of their last twelve. I mean, what makes you
think that they're just going to completely turn it around
like that. You know, Florida's down right. Maybe at Auburn's
a game that you can steal. Even though they've looked

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good at times. I know they can beat Tennessee Tech
at least, I hope.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
So there's five. If you could get those three, there's
your five.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Now you got to beat a pretty good Vanderbilt team
on the road and then a Lovell team on the.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Road that's still unfeated. Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
You know, the path is looking really tough when you
can't beat Ole Miss and you can't beat South Carolina.
And again, it's not it's not just losing to South Carolina.
It's how you lose to South Carolina. It's about just
getting absolutely destroyed, turning the ball over, making dumb mistakes.
It's it's just a combination of all of those things
that I think doesn't give the fan base much hope

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looking forward and stoops.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Another postgame comment he had was this team is better,
this team is getting better, and I go back to
show us, how do you respond?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, you didn't.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Respond after the four turnovers in the second quarter. Let's
see overall, how this team do they stay together? Are
they competitive in other games. If not, it could get ugly.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Mike is up next? You are?

Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yeah. In regards to Kentucky's remaining schedule, there is see
if you can guess what team this is, there's a
team left in Kentucky's schedule that is four and oh
currently has scored over fifty five points a game. Why
while only giving up a little over nine points a game?
What team is that remaining on their schedule?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Is this Tennessee Tech?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
Or yes?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Which was what?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (31:28):
Yeah? Go look at their schedule. They beat Team Set.
They scored seventy two to one game, fifty five another. Uh,
I don't know, So there you go. Everybody assumes that's
a win. I think it is.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
But oh, he's right, I'm looking at it right now.
Four and oh Tennessee Tech. Now I don't know who
they played.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Who are they playing?

Speaker 9 (31:50):
Well, they played Chad Chattanooga, which I think got close
to beating Kentucky. What a couple of years ago? Chattanooga?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yea.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
You know, regardless, if you can score the many points
a game and only give up nine and you're that
level of football, I don't think that's a walk o.
Everybody could be who knows.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, thanks, for the callback. We appreciate it. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
By Tennessee Tech sixty five nothing in their first game
they played Cumberland. It looks like though then they won
forty five seventeen seventy two, fourteen thirty five to eight.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
So well, I mean that that is a true breaking
point of the Damn if you were to lose to
Tennessee Tech and not win another SEC game, I mean
that would.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
And while we're talking about future opponents, Corey Price actually
texted me this yesterday.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
He said it, He said, I thought you'd like this.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Only four SEC teams over the last thirty years have
won each of their first five games of the season
Bout twenty points or more two thousand and one, Florida,
twenty eighteen Bama, twenty nineteen Bama, and twenty twenty five Vanderbilt.
So that game that you know everybody thinks, oh it's Vanderbilt,

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we're gonna beat them.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, you know that's the one game we can count on,
not anymore, not this year. Yeah, with Pavia back there, let's.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Take one more call before the break. Bob and James
down go ahead, Bob, Hey.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
Bob, what do you say? Guys out here on the
deck recovering after that left shoulder of replacement last Tuesday.
You wouldn't believe this story. Uh, two o'clock in the morning,
and when I can't sleep, I get out here on
this deck and like to call bard owl. Now, bard
owls take up forty out their territorial forty acres each Well,

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I'm in a business of doing that. And then hear
all this commotion out there across the lake. This guy
at two in the morning fell off the overlook at
Lake Cumberland State Park and was landing in the water.
Recue quad tried to get him like he's arrived, but
I guess I mean the helicopter came in. They couldn't

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get land. They took him to the local office. He's lucky,
he's alive. Well, all while I'm trying to call a
bard owl and talk to him, hearing this carrot. You know,
the sound really carries on the water here, and it's
not that far from my house, those two marinas. Anyway,
it was a big weekend the sports, looking the golf
fans and getting out of hand Up there at the
Ryder Cup, McElroy and Shane Lowry taunting the fans, but

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fans given uh yeah, giving them trouble coming back and
made them play better beating Americans.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Okay, I want to go back to what you were
talking about, because you're all, yeah, I want to go
about so first of all, the guys, Okay, that's good,
he survived.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Good. Good.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Ending to that story, I want to know, how does
Bob and Jamestown call a bar owl?

Speaker 9 (34:31):
Like?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
What what kind of noise do you make? We we
called the hogs last week, or at least some of
us did. Billy did, and Ryan did, and call a
barred owl.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
Okay, listen, that's the alert call. But then when they
start talking to each other, that's like, you know, who
cooks for you?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Who cooks? Is that what you're saying to him? Who
cooks for you?

Speaker 8 (34:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's how they talk to you.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
Yeah. Their territorial, like I say, each and takes up
about forty acres. And when they get the catter rolling
and really going, it is something. Now, I mean the
noise that they can make, it's pretty neat out here
on the lake.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I guess I'm thinking.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
About getting one of those earthcam cameras and just have
it on all the time. I did a lot of
wild stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Bob and James earth Camp. Thanks for the call, Bob. Okay,
thank you, Bob.

Speaker 7 (35:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah, did you say he was doing that at two
in the morning. He's getting up and calling owls?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, I think that's what he said. I don't know
about you.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
If I'm gettingup at two in the morning, it's to
go to the bathroom, it's not to get out and
call owls.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah. That is bizarre.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I mean, I've thought the most bizarre thing we'd learn
how to Bob was what was on his porch, But
now it's him calling owls at two in the morning.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I did appreciate him doing that here on the radio.
That made me happy.

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Speaker 1 (36:55):
We'll take a break.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Final segment of the KSR pre Show is next final
segment of the KAO pre Show. It was announced last
night the Super Bowl halftime performer Bad Bunny.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Are you a Bad Bunny fan? Billy? Yeah, I like
Bad Bunny.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know, I don't know what he's saying in his music,
So how much can I really like Bad Bunny? But
I mean, I think he's entertaining. He was good in
Happy Gilmore too. Can he put on a good show, yes,
but I'm just not going to understand what's being said.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
So it's a little bit of a disappointment. There was
what do you.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Think, Well, I mean, I'm not a bad Bunny fan.
I know, the only reason I know Bad Bunny is
because he was involved in the WWE for a while.
But you know, there was a lot of talk that
maybe Taylor Swift would be the halftime performer, but she,
according to reports, stepped away from the conversation because she
felt disrespected. Apparently she was asking for like a you know,
a couple of things. You're Taylor Swift and you're you know,

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one of the I guess the biggest musician on the planet,
and you're not getting paid to play.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
You don't really need the exposure.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
But she was just asking for I think it was
like the rights to the performance, and the NFL just
flat out refused that and a couple of other things.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
And you know, because they weren't.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
NFL wasn't willing to negotiate and play ball with Taylor Swift. She,
according to a music executive in the story that I
was just reading and said that she felt disrespected and
stepped away from it. So now it looks like it's
probably not going to happen because I don't see the
NFL budging on their rights to anything.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Who does she think she is?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
I mean, I don't want what she's tasting Swift, all
the Taylor Swift fans here, but like she wants the
rights to the performance. This is the Super Bowl halftime show.
I mean, I get you want to own your own music,
but to own the rights of the broadcast here, like,
it doesn't make sense to me. A little disappointed, but
you're right, they don't get paid, so I guess bigger
artists see this as a why would I do it?

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, I mean she's you know, just here's the thing.
When you're that big of a star, you have all
the leverage. Yeah, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift doesn't need the NFL.
The NFL I don't think necessarily needs Taylor Swift, but
it would be a huge way to bring in a
lot of fans that don't normally watch the NFL, wouldn't

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watch normally without Taylor Swift. So the NFL doesn't need her,
But she does you know, make a lot of money
for the NFL. The NFL is gonna survive without Taylor Swift,
and Taylor Swift is going to be fine without the NFL.
But it would I think, greatly benefit the NFL more
than it would Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, yeah, she's broady brought in.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
I think a lot of female viewers when it comes
to watching the Chiefs and Travis Kelcey. But I also
think Bad Bunny is a good selection if you're still
looking to tap into a bigger audience, because there is
a Spanish speaking, big Spanish speaking audience that's gonna love
the Bad Bunny stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Let's go to Frank Ky.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Frank, what's up, Chenn?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Hey, how's the Bailly b Yeah he's good.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Good to talk to you, guys. I will preface this
by saying Stoop's has brought some great memories to the
UK football, but right now it's it's over. We have
no quarterback, cutter bow, we can't do it. You don't
have any receivers. You're gonna be lucky to win hopefully
three games. You're definitely not winning four games. So everybody

(40:08):
I talk to fan wise, they're fed up and they're
done with it, So I pretty much think this strain
has gone over with Cliff. It's just a matter of time.
And the way that you make a difference is just
don't show.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Up to the games.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
So this point doesn't look very good, guys.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Thanks for the call, Frank. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I don't know that we'll ever get back to the
last home game of the Joker Phil Phillips era when
they played Vandy and there was like sixty four people
in the crowd. I don't think we'll ever get to
that point. But it certainly feels like we're starting to
trend in that direction, Billy, because fans have just you know,
I feel like seen enough at this point.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, and that certainly sends a message to the athletic
department when something like that happens, you know, and like
you said, poor timing for them to send out though,
What should we do better at Kroger Field. Yeah, I'm
sure a lot of people are going to have some
sarcastic answers in that sea.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
About thirty seconds, Billy, go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Hey, I just wanted to say something.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Want to see what you guys have to think about it.
Bush Hand is hiring has to be one of the
most one of the worst things that Stoops could have
ever done. And it all falls back on Stoops.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Where do we go from?

Speaker 6 (41:15):
Yeah, I think this season a bunk.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Thank you guys, Thanks Bill.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, I mean we've had a run of a lot
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We didn't get a chance to really talk about Take Kenny,
who Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey reportedly got into an
argument over who.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Should meet with him first. He didn't pick either one
of them. He does goes to Kansas. He goes to Kansas.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Take Kenny has committed to Kansas, And we got to
talk about the Ryder Cup tomorrow. The behavior of some fans, Shannon,
we needs to be discussed.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
We'll get into that and more on the pre show
tomorrow ASR is keep it Up next.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Thanks for listening.