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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to another edition. Oh listen to that of
the KSR Pre Show. Today is Friday, October third. I'm
Billy Rutledge along with Shannon the Dude live at Shady
Rays in Louisville. You can give us call at eight
five nine two eight oh two two eight seven, Texas
at five oh two two sixty five sixty six five six.
And it's always The KSHUR Pre Show is brought to

(00:21):
you by Italics Fine Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky at
the City Center on Main Street. We always have a
great crowd when we come to Louisville, and it is
no different today. Shannon the Dude is along with me.
What's up, dude?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
How you know sometimes when we do the KSR pre
Show it's just you me in just empty space in.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Front of us, the pumpkins with us.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, this morning, this crowd has showed up. Give yourself
a round of applause. I mean, come on, what a
great crowd we have here. This is the most people
I've seen in a mall since Christmas. The people still
come to a shopping malls on a regular basis, Like,
where's the last time you went to a mall?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
About two weeks ago. Spent a little bit of change
on some new clothes, Shannon. Now the fiance takes you out,
you get a up date the wardrobe. But you're right,
you don't spend too much time at malls anymore. It
used to be the thing. It used to be. You
get dropped off, maybe by the parents, and hang out
with the friends. Yep. I mean it was a social setting.
But come to this mall chase.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Get chased by the mall cop on the segway, mall
cop in the subway.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Kids even going to the malls anymore, like you have
to have a supervision A lot of the times, I
don't have kills. I don't know. One thing we did
used to do at malls is the samples in the
food court. Have to get the samples at the food court,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You go around and they go sample sapple, sample, sepple sample.
When they got like a piece of bourbon chicken on
a toothpick, yep, I want that one. But you know what,
I think that orange chicken looks good too. And then
you try a little bit of that, and then I
just go right down the line. And then by the
time I get to the end, I've already eaten lunch.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, here's the trick. You let like twenty five thirty
minutes past. They forget who you are, they forget what
you look like, so you can go back through the
sample lines and get another piece of bourbon chicken. We
used to do that a lot when we first started
dating men. And if we're going fair or foul, that
is one hundred percent fair. Yes, it's one hundred percent fair.
It's on them to recognize that you've already taken chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
From Now we're here at Shady Rays. Something doesn't feel right,
Hang on, there we go. Now I got the Shady
rais aviator.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Now we're ready to rock. Okay, Yeah, you got to
have the Shady Rays on while you do a show
at Shady Rays. I've got some on right now. These
are the prescription sunglasses, you know. Cool for somebody that
has to wear glasses that can wear these Shady Rays
on a daily basis. And it's also buy one, get
one fifty percent off two or more in the store
during the broadcast today, So if you come out today,
you can get a great deal at Shady Rays. Shannon,

(02:28):
I'm still not sure how they do the We will
replace your sunglasses for free if you lose or break though.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
They must have a good insurance policy. It's all I know.
But they're the only plays that I know that will
do that for you. You just lose your your sunglasses,
you come in. You gotta show proof that you actually got.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I guess that's the one question I had.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
You do have to show proof that you did buy us,
So save your receipt and then you come in, or
you can get another pair.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
They'll replace them. That's right. Well, we got a great crowd.
We've got a big weekend ahead. Kentucky versus Georgia at
noon on Saturday. It's also the return of Matt Jones
today from South Africa. He'll be here today. Yeah, you
can give it up for that, Shannon. He makes his
return today. I'm looking forward to hearing some stories about
hippos and elephants, but mainly how my guys survived without

(03:10):
a phone for two weeks. If anybody needs their phone,
it's Matt so for them to go two weeks without one,
I'm sure there were some obstacles in his way.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think a lot of us, most of us have this,
I don't know, like attachment to our phones now. It's
like hard to think about life without a phone. I know,
I'm really bad about it. Like if I don't have
my phone next to me, I feel like I'm you know,
don't don't have my clothes on or something. You know,
you got to have that phone with you at all
the times, and especially for what we do, you got
to check it constantly, and you know, you get listener

(03:38):
feedback and you know during the show, I'm always on
the phone, but throughout the day too. I mean I
go back and I look at how many hours in
a week that I'm on my phone. I'm almost embarrassed
to look at that. I'm like, man, it shows you
how attached we are to these things.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, and I'm not going to share my percentage of
what I use on my phone and how often I
use it. I'd be a little embarrassed by it too. Sure,
let me see if I can find it for you.
I'm not sharing that thing is I don't even know
how to navigate these things for my Internet history. You're
not getting that. I don't want that. Yeah, I use
my phone so much sometimes if I don't have my
phone in my pocket, I will feel a vibration on
my thigh, and I think my phone's ringing. No, my

(04:15):
phone's not even on me. That's how often I have
my phone on.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
You have phantom you know you've heard like phantom limbs before, right,
So you have like phantom phone.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Does anybody else have that? It's like that a thing
like okay, see I'm getting a yet yeah here, yes, oh,
at least one guy. Yeah, I mean I'm strange in
a lot of ways.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's actually the chip the government is implanted into your
leg that you don't know about.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, the chip. Yeah, you've seen workplaces start that, putting
chips in wrists so they can get into the doorway. No, no,
hold on, don't do that. Hold on, who's done that?
That was a story a couple of years ago we
did on the pre show. Thanks for remembering shit, I
don't remember that. I don't remember what we talked about
putting chips into their employers so they could access vending
machines the doors to get into work.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I remember maybe talking about that being a thing that
could happen in the future. I didn't know that people
were actually going through surgery to put in something in
their skin.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's like a Black Mirror episode, isn't it. Yeah, so
you're telling me that's a real thing. That is the thing. Wow,
I'd rather just keep my key card around my deck
than in plant something else. My heart comes to you, Shane,
We're not doing key cards anymore. We're gonna have to
put something too bad. You better be ready to let
me in every morning when I come to the door. Yeah,
that does feel strange, a little dystopian here, but yeah,
looking forward to hear from Matt and how he did

(05:23):
on his travels and have him back on NFL Cover
zero as well. It's Kentucky versus Georgia at noon on Saturday,
a game at Kentucky has lost fifteen straight times to Georgia. Shannon,
any chance, what's your optimism level that they keep it
close against the Georgia bull does not much based on
what I've seen so far. You know.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Again, it goes back to Kentucky's offense is a big
problem right now. When you don't feel like you can
score in the twenties, how are you gonna beat Georgia.
I mean, maybe your defense locks down, maybe you create turnovers.
That's the thing that if Kentucky is going to hang
with Georgia. They've got to basically do to Georgia what
South Carolina did to Kentucky week, get a scoop and score,

(06:01):
get a pick six score on defense, because our offense
I don't feel like has enough power to run with Georgia,
especially if the game gets into the twenty eight thirty
thirty one range. After that, I feel like unless we
get some scores off defense, then Kentucky's not gonna win.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Does it feel like Kentucky has to play a perfect
game to even have a chance in this game? Because mostly, yeah,
you can't turn the ball over. Something I was disappointed
was was overcoming adversity. When they did have that terrible
second quarter versus South Carolina, there wasn't much of a response. Now,
you go on the road to take on a team
like Georgia, you're gonna have to play perfect if you're
not gonna be able to bounce back from things like adversity. Now,

(06:38):
the buzzword this week at Kentucky football practice and these
post games is the word methodical. Mark Stoops doesn't like
that the offense is not explosive and too methodical. Yet,
Bush Hampden says they can't beat themselves they need to
be at times methodical, because you saw what happened in
the second quarter against South Carolina. So when your offense

(06:59):
is already limited theirselves in the press conferences, that does
not give me a lot of hope that they can
hang with a good counterpart.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oddly enough, playing slow against Georgia, I think is the
best way to attack it. You're not going to get
into a shootout with Georgia, just forget about it.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But if you can.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Slow the game down, run the ball, grind it out,
you know, get those third down conversions and extend the
you know, extend your time of possession and limit Georgia's
that's how you keep the game close. You know, it
needs to be like a seventeen to fourteen type of game.
Like I said a minute ago, if it gets into
the twenty eight, thirty or and above range, forget about it.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I think it's over at that point.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
But if you can keep keep it in the teams
and just keep the time of possession on Kentucky's you know,
in Kentucky's favor, right then I feel like that's that's
the way they keep it close. Well, that's Stup's ball.
That's how he's had success in the past. That's not
something we've seen a lot over the last couple of years.
It'll be one of the best venues in college football
between the hedges in Athens, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
That the Bulldog's going to be there, and we know
how you feel about dogs. Uhguh, I'm not gonna talk
about dogs today. Yeah, I'm taking a different route show.
Even though Peter was all over social media last night.
If you saw that Peters everywhere, well, yeah, Kirkharbstreet does
a lot of games, so he's got a post videos
about his dog. Anyway, Shannon not getting caught up on that.
Like I said, it's gonna be a great venue. Last year,

(08:17):
Kentucky rush for over two hundred yards against the Georgia Bulldogs.
Had a chance to win that game late, So it's
not impossible that Kentucky would have a shot.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
No, not impossible. And Kentucky does have a good running game.
That's been I think the big strength of the team
so far this year. We talked about the defense and
Ryan was saying that, you know, if you look back
at the game last week, that you take out those
two turnovers and the game's fourteen thirteen. But again, I
go back to the problem with the offense when you
could take those two touchdowns away and you're still losing.

(08:47):
So I don't know that that makes me feel any better. Again,
It's gonna come down to our offense. Can we, you know,
get Cutter to get some guys open and throw for
some touchdowns and not be too predictable because I mean,
everybody knows Kentucky is going to run. But when we
do throw the ball, can we get our receivers open
enough or maybe our tight ends open enough to be

(09:07):
able to throw for a touchdown or two.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Well, they haven't done a lot of that this year,
and they're going to have to play complimentary football with
Cutter Bowley. If you'd like to join the show eight
five nine two eight ho two two eight seven talk
a little Kentucky, Georgia. The other big news from yesterday
regarding college basketball is that it looks to be inevitable
that the NCAA Tournament's going to go to seventy six
teams starting in the twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season. Shannon, Yeah,

(09:30):
there could be a twelve game opening round playoff at
two different sites starting in twenty twenty six I feel
like we've been talking about this for three or four years.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
At this point, they're trying to ease us into it
because I think a lot of fans are kind of groaning,
like I am when we talk about the expansion of
the NC DOUBLEA Tournament, which I think is the best
form of postseason in any sport. We got Major League
Baseball playoffs going on right now.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I love playoff Baseball, but it doesn't hold a candle
to the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. And I feel like they
just keep adding teams and adding teams. I remember a
couple of years ago we were talking about at one
point it was going to possibly go to ninety six.
So I feel like they're just gradually easing into that.
And normally I'm for college basketball if it's a good thing.
Though at some point though, you water down the product

(10:14):
and the product suffers in exchange for Okay, we can
make some more money, and that's what it all comes
down to. More games equals more money for the NCAA
for these schools. That's why they're doing it now. I
don't think they're doing it because it makes the tournament better.
They're doing it because it makes them more money.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, but it also gets more teams in the tournament,
gets more bases invested. Sure, you know, I'm generally on
your side, and I think most people have the same opinion.
We don't need to expand, but this is a tournament
that has expanded over the years. Do you poop poop
more basketball or like you said, you feel like it
waters down what you're already seeing.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Fucket waters down what we've got. And also, you know
when you have it again. A coach on his resume,
he's been to fifteen straight in NCAA terms. Yeah, but
he was the seventy fifth team every year you were
the eighth teams. So there's always going to you know,
if you go to sixty eight, is always going to
be a sixty ninth team that doesn't make it. If
you go to seventy six, there's always going to be
the seventy seventh team that doesn't make it. So at
some point you got to cut it off. And I

(11:07):
know they keep expanding and adding teams to D one
and you look at the percentage of teams making the tournament.
They're just trying to adjust to that. But come on,
I mean, we know these teams that are seventy seven
or seventy six, seventy five, seventy They don't have a
chance to make to win the NCAA tournament historically.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
No. I mean sometimes the first four teams to make
a run win the first two games of the opening tournament,
but very rarely or ever will you see them near
the big games in the final four. So A five
nine two, eight oh two too, eight seven. If you
like to join the show, They've got a new fishing
collection here at Shady Rays, sponsored by Kentucky Fish and Wildlife. Shannon,
do you do a.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Lot of fishing. I haven't fished in probably twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You beta hook? Yes, you can beta hook.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yes you can tie, not not well, but yes, I
can tie.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I know, I don't know if yeh tie. You didn't
ask me if I could take the fish off the hook. Well,
I mean that's pretty standard hand over the fishes, Sidy.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
This is all what kind of fish it is. If
it's a catfish, you don't just reach your hand in
the mouth of a catfish.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
It will bite you the barbs too.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well, that's right, yeah, and it will get you like
that Vanderbilt logo got you in my garage days ago
and you end up bleeding, still bleeding. You're good, yeah, no,
I'm good now. I don't see a band aid on
there anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I heal quick. Yeah, But what about you? Are you
a fisherman? I used to be much more in Florida,
much more access to it. I guess I could go
to a lake now and fish. But I mean I
U should just walk down now, are you? Are you
a live bait guy or like one of those just now?
It was always live bait, right, and go get some
worms or some shrimp some something like that. Always more

(12:36):
effective than I guess the lures and things, the rubber
stuff that you would put on. But yeah, my dad
taught me that at a young age. So I might
check out the fishermen glasses. There's also something about sunglasses
that just instantly makes you cooler when you put them on.
Shannon put those aviators on. I mean I was, I
was already looking at everything.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I was already like a nine out of ten cool,
But then I put the shady raise.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I went like eleven out of ten, kind of like
gives you that movie stuff, Little Tom Cruise, that's right,
that's right before that Mars's shaking her head. She's like, yep,
let's for that pee wee herman after the glasses, Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's quite the change. Well that's you, basically, I'm but
you talking about yourself? Are you talking about me? I'm
talking about you over there? Off your aviators on? Uh
here with my prescription sunglasses. But we're having a good
time here in Louisville. Not a show that we do
often in Louisville, uh that. But when we do, the
crowd always shows that Ryan has got his shady rays on.
Look at there's Ryan right there, those prescriptions. Look at
Ryan r Ryan's got prescription shady raise prescription boys over here,

(13:30):
and Mario's got a purse.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Why does Mario have a purse? I don't know. I
think that's that European satchel that the young'ins are trying
to tell us are cool.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
But is that a Kate Spade or a duny in Burke,
which which kind of what kind of persons that you
have there?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I'm going foul on the satchel over there. Yeah, and
you don't like that now, But I did wear a
fanny pack to the Kentucky der.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay, Well, if you wear a fanny pack. You can't
really take a shot at Mario's sold on going on.
It was a tactical fanny pack. I had a microphone
in it and my charging cable, Shannon, it was necessary.
Do you know what world has like where fanny packs
are just a normal thing where wrestlers. Wrestlers love themselves
some fanny packs. If you go backstage, seventy five to

(14:12):
eighty percent of these guys, you know, muscles coming out everywhere,
and they get this fanny pack on.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I think I understand. Because your tights don't have
any pockets, Shannon. All you guys in your pajamas back there,
true trying to get into speedos. There's no pockets for
your phone up there, So you gotta have a fanny pack.
Got to tuck it in the back. Something that you're smelling,
salts that you gotta take before you go. Right, that's right,
all right, we're gonna take a break. Give us a call,
join the show. You can also text us five h
two two six five six six five six. We've got

(14:39):
much more nonsense on the way. It is the KASR Apprecia.
All right, welcome back. It is the KASR pre Show.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Liam and I are thinking a like because when you
say can you bait a hook?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
I thought about this song he can't even buy you
a hook.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
That's some bro country stuff that that I can't stand
and Matt hates.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
But but good choice, Liam, good good choice there. A
country boy can't vibe would have also been an acceptable option, Lily.
I'm doing a great job back in the studio for us.
It was at this Shady Ray's location, I feel like
two years ago where Matt Jones said it is possible
for Kentucky to make the playoff. Shannon, do you remember that? Yeah? Yeah,
Well that made only went viral so many times, and

(15:17):
I was like, yeah, that's the Shady Rays location.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I don't think he's gonna have that rant today on
the show. I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, if we do ask Matt about his last two weeks,
he would say he would have zero hours screen time
on his phone. Shannon and I looked up our screen
time during the break.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, so I really felt bad about mine. Like I
looked at my time and I go, I am on
this thing way too much. Yeah, daily average five hours,
forty one minutes. But but I'm down twenty five percent
from last week.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Thank you very much. So I'm doing better. I'm doing
better on my screen time addiction.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But then I saw yours and I go, I don't
feel nearly as bad as I did after I saw
your screen time.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah. Well, remember I'm a generation younger than you. I
you know, grew up in middle school, in high school
with a phone in my hand, and now I don't
have an attention span. Mine is at eight hours in
forty minutes, you put in a full day's work. You
actually put in more work on your phone than you
do on the show. You realize that, well, yeah, I
mean the show's an hour now, I'm talking about on KSR.
Just KSR in general. Okay, you're talking to the GM

(16:18):
here that does lot more than the thirty forty eight minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
We've gerbility that works one hour a day, puts an
eight hours a week on his phone.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I got to I got to make a lot of calls, Shannon.
I mean, I'm I'm a moving a shaker, I'm kissing babies.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, No, do you actually make phone calls, because that's
a whole other conversation trying to get somebody to actually
call you and have a conversation is becoming less and
less frequent in our world because people when when they
see a phone call come in a lot of times,
unless it says mom or dad or maybe your boss's name,
people just let it go to voicemail.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Do you actually answer your phone? I do, and I'll
leave messages if people don't pick up. I just there's
so much more you can get done in a five
minute phone conversation, five hour text time with you man,
and like, yeah, I can't send sarcasm and text messages.
I can't be funny. Well there's emojis. Well yeah, but
are you an emoji? I don't think you've ever even
used an emoji texting me not with you? Not with you? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But to my point, though most people will not answer
their phone you try to call them, it just goes
to voice felt.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
See, I think phoning is still fine. But if you
face time me out of the blue, I will not answer.
And that's Mark Pope. Yeah, that just face times people
all the time. But if you're like checking up on
your players, maybe it is good to see where they're at, right, Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
But the worst part about it is when you call
somebody and then they reply with the text, no, I
want to talk to you. That's why I called to you.
Don't reply with a text. You know, don't reply to
a call with a text. So they still do that
all the time. Sorry, I missed you.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
What's up? Yeah? Then you try to call them again,
they don't answer. Yeah, I know you're on your phone.
You just texted me thirty seconds ago. I have friends
that do that all the time. Drives me. Well, I'm
talking a lot about generations today, but there's a whole
generation that doesn't do that, that will not be on
their phone. Hell, I'll go back and remember where we
only had one phone, the landline. It was in the kitchen.
You couldn't even be on it when the computer was running.

(18:08):
Oh yeah, yeah that. I don't know anybody that has
a landline phone anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Anybody actually still have a landline Marsha, Two people over here?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
All right? Three, there's one over there, Okay, more than
I would have.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, all right, I'm staying corrected. Then I guess I
know four people now that have a landline phone.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Colin Chandler was asked he could play one on one
anyone living or dead. Who would it be. He said
it would be George Washington who he would play one
on one. Oh, he wants to cross over George Washington.
George Washington, I feel like, you.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Know, he would you know, check them with his hip
and maybe throw an elbow and knock out one of
George Washington teeth tooth. Yeah, my gosh, okay, Colin knock
his wig off. That'd be a whole mess out.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
A fan of history. George is big, though, I mean, yeah,
he's on the dollar bill. Yeah, he could block a
shot or two. I mean literally Shannon with height, not
just how big of a person he is, but how
tall was George Washington. Oh, I don't know, but like
at the time, I think he may have been like
six four sixty five and then six four six five
back then was like, oh that guy is huge, but
you can double check for me. John Rostein says the

(19:14):
most important player on Kentucky's roster this year is Brandon Garrison.
With the health of JAD and Quainton's yeah, set a
big step up for BG. What do you think do
you think Brandon Garrison's the most important player on the
UK basketball I think he's gonna be the starter at
the five and I don't know about most important.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's that's a big title. Yeah, I have to think
about all the guys on the roster. I mean, I
don't know, would you would you agree with that important?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I would say Jalen Lowe and the primary ball handler,
point guard. Maybe Aberdeen might.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Be a little bit more always going to be important too?
Oh wait, I mean he was of the most importance
last year. Without oh way, they wouldn't have gone nearly
as far as they did.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I get with Rotheen's saying, if BG were to
make that kind of jump in the offseason and become
that elite player, then yea can Kentucky's you know, final
four national championship aspirations are right there. But BG a
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Speaker 1 (20:57):
Think Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber. So you're saying
there's a chance. Since the start of twenty twenty three,
Georgia is nine and twenty two against the spread. When
Georgia is a twenty plus favorite, they are zero in
fifteen since twenty twenty two. Oh wow, really? Yes, So
a team that wins but doesn't cover shan You remember
Mark Stoops takes a time out late down in between

(21:19):
the hedges so he can score one more time to
cover the spread. A few years ago.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yab, it is a cover of the spread, gonna be
a moral victory, good enough to keep anybody happy.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
We don't want to cover. We want to beat Georgia.
That's true. I'm just trying to take a realistic expectation. Yeah,
I don't want I don't want three games.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I know the expectations have been lowered. But when we're like, okay, yeah,
we got that point total, you know we covered the
point spread. That is a loser's mentality right there.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Okay, all right, well let's see if they can find
any mentality between the hedges. On Saturday eight five nine
two eight h two two eight seven we'll start to
take some calls on the other side of this s break.
But again, we're here at Shady Rays in Louisville. They
have the Wildcat blue color way shades back in stock
Remember somebody asked for some shades at the last Shady
Raid location. We didn't have them, so I took them

(22:06):
off my head and gave them to him.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's right, you did, Brian would give m somebody the
shirt off his back. You would give somebody the shady
race right off your face.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's just who we are. And you'd give him the
thong that you wear for OVW wrestling. If what you're
watching speedo pajamas. We'll be right back here on the
KSR pre Show. All right, welcome back. It is the
KSR pre Show. Great crowd here at the oxfor Mall
in Louisville, Kentucky. We'll hand it off to Matt Jones

(22:34):
and KSR. At ten am. Shannon was just looking up
presidents in their heights.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
During the break, he said Colin Chandler, if he could
play anybody dead or alive, he said, George Washington is
a very interesting, early, interesting choice. And we looked up
how tall is George Washington? He was six foot two.
Do you know who the tallest president we've ever had?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean, I go to honest ape right because they
probably measured him with the top hat on. Oh yeah,
that's true. Abe Lincoln tallest.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Well, he was six foot four. He was the tallest.
I guess if you have the top at he was
probably like six foot seven. Now on the flip side
of that, do you know who our shortest president ever?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Was no like John Adams, James Madison something. James Madison,
oh five foot four of you? No, I didn't see
any applause.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
James Madison is about the same height as Ryan Lemon.
So you look at Ryan and you think, Okay, there's
the shortage president we ever had right there, that.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Guy five to four. I mean, that is little as
a president. Good luck getting elected today. He needed four.
He's the one who needed a top at the comments
on a five to four presidential candidate would be pretty funny.
Eight five nine two eight zero two two eight seven.
A lot of baseball last night. No Reds because they
immediately lost the first two games of the playoffs. But

(23:47):
we had some interesting games, including the Guardians who came
back from fifteen and a half games down to make
the playoffs, just to lose to the team that they
were trying to chase, the Detroit Tiger, all for nothing,
you know, just that storyline. Aside from the Reds series,
that was the one I was most interested in seeing.
Can Cleveland, who came back, as you said, from being
fifteen and a half down. I think that's the longest

(24:07):
or the biggest comeback in the standings in Major League
baseball history, and if I'm wrong, Corey Price will probably
tell me I'm wrong. But to come back that far
and then to lose in the first round, either that
was going to happen or the team that came back
from fifteen and a half down was going to also
knock Detroit out.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
So we got Detroit moving on. I incorrectly picked that
one yesterday. Well, you were incorrect on every pick you made,
Yet I think I know I had the Yankees. When
the Cubs beat the Padres, they moved on the Padres
yelling at the umps as they walked off the field.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Bad call. In the ninth they missed a strake call,
and then the Yankees beat Boston four to zero. Rookie
picture Cam Schlitter for the eight innings, five hits, zero
earned runs, zero walks. In twelve K's rookie that started
in Double A this year, played that well for the
Yankees in a deciding Game three, but he said it
was a little personal for him because Red Sox fans

(24:56):
were harassing his mom online. He said there was a
line that they crossed a little bit. I'm a competitor.
I'm going to go out there and make sure I
shut them down, Shannon on the heels of the Ryder Cup,
where the Europeans were just berated by inappropriate comments. Now
we've got rookie pitchers whose mom has to go private
online because of the comments that they're gonna get. Is

(25:18):
there any faith in humanity to have a little sanity
every now and then?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, I'm all for heckling players. You can heckle
me if you want to, But when you start heckling
my family, that's when you cross the line. That's when
you could say anything you want to me. You're not
going to really make me mad, you know. But if
you start making fun of like my family or going
after my mom or my dad on social media, that
is way over the line. And you know what, I'm
glad the Yankees won after hearing that story. I don't

(25:43):
like the Yankees, but I I don't like trolls that
go after people's family even more.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
He was a lifelong Red Sox fan, him and the
family converted to Yankees fan after he became a Yankee.
But for people to go after his mom online, it's
just so low brow, Shannon, But unfortunately it's it's expected.
Almost at this point, there's a lot of mean people
out there.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, the Ryder Cup. I mean, was it one of
the fans that threw a beer can or beer bottle
and hit hit Rory Mcrory's wife in the back of
the head.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, good grief. That's a that's a whole other level
of trolling right there. A five nine.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Don't throw anything at us, by the way, don't throw
any tomatoes or anything up.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Here, like shoes were George Bush up here trying to
give a press conference. There's a lot of weird things
that you can throw at somebody. Remember David Tepper, the
Panthers owner, threw a drink at a fan. I do
remember that. That was just a year or two ago. Yeah,
that was a new one one thing, bizarre story. Here
on the KSR pre Show, I want to introduce you
to the IG Noble Awards, Shannon Okay. A couple of

(26:37):
weekends ago, the thirty fifth annual IG Noble Awards took
place in Boston. It's a good natured parody of the
Nobel the Nobel Prizes. So they honor achievements that make
people laugh and then make them think. So these are
all true studies that people have done. These are some
of the award winners from the thirty fifth annual ig

(26:59):
No Awards. Ready for this. What is ig is that instagram?
I don't know it's but it's a parody of the
Nobel Prizes. These are serious topics but done in humorous ways.
So some of the winners from the ig Noble Awards.
A couple weekends ago, there was researchers from Japan that
discovered painting cows with zebra line stripes can help prevent

(27:20):
flies from biting them. Is that right? That is true.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I would also think that maybe it would keep them
from the slaughterhouse if people thought they were zebras.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
No, Like if I were a cow, I would want
to be like stripes painted on me, Like, hey, no,
I'm a zebra.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'll tell fastuck and run. I'm not. I'm not a cow.
Don't look over here, you know. I don't know how
they start that research, but they did confirm if you
do paint the stripes, it prevents flies from biting cows.
So those japan researchers were one of the winners.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So they're really concerned about the cows, like we don't
want to get bit by flies before we kill them.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's right, okay's right. I mean you don't want your
your your meat to be infected by flies. True. There
was a group from Europe that found drinking alcohol sometimes
improved a person's ability to speach to speak a foreign language.
Really wow, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I'll drink a lot of beers and I still can't
speak French, Spanish or anything.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
So they just help me at all. They had two
groups that had Dutch as a second language. One group
they gave water, the next group they gave alcohol, and
then they asked these people to speech Dutch with a
native Dutch speaker, and the people that drink alcohol were
much better than the ones that only had water.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's gotta be some sort of placebo effect, right, I mean,
I don't understand the correlation.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I would think of anything.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It would make you worse, because drinking alcohol actually makes
me speak worse English.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well, honestly, give me a couple of beers.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I won't be able. I'll be fumbling over my words.
I wouldn't be able to say anything of you. You give
me a mimosa to just talking about it, you start
stuttering it. You give me a mimosa or two and
I've got the billy confidence to speak whatever.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Language that you're speaking. So except a love language. Oh
come on, that's when I'm at that beast. Give me
a break, and I'll give you one more. Another group
from Africa and You're a completed tests on rainbow lizards
and what their favorite pizza toppings are. Apparently, Shannon, rainbow
lizards don't like the topics peppers, olives, pepperoni. Every time

(29:12):
they did test on these rainbow lizards, they only like
cheese pizza.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, I've never seen a lizard eat a pizza, so
I have to take your word for it on that.
That's why would they Why would they think rainbow lizards
and pizza?

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Like? Who put that together? The researchers saw these rainbow
lizards stealing slices of pizzas from a resort, and I
was curious, if they prefer topics, they should do it.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
They should go to New York and do that test
on rats, because I've seen rats carry off like an
entire slice of pizza and.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm like, that rat doesn't care what's on that pizza.
They are those categorized as rats because I mean, those
could be like mutants from a different planet they get.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
They look like the size of like Peter the the
Herbstreet Dog. Yeah, like there are monster rats that they
have in New York City. Uh, eight zero eight, So
the side is a Peter.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Yeah. Those jokes have been being made all week after
the discussions that we've had Shannon, the forty nine ers
and the Rams were last night. Did you see Mac
Jones's outfit?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
No, you know, honestly, I didn't watch any of it.
I was too busy watching the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Well this is great radio, but I'm going to show
you a picture. I mean, he looks like the Riddler
here in his does.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, he's got one side red, one side black. That
right there is kind of like what I would imagine
Rick Patino would have rolled in as the LOISLL coach.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That is the guy version of Harley Quinn. Is what
it looks like. The double if he did not have ponytails,
if you gave him horn, horns and a pitchfork, that
is the double right there. I don't know about that.
Speaking of the NFL, C J. Stroud is twenty three
years old. He is the quarterback for the Houston Texans.
He had a quote this week saying that he feels old, Shannon,
he's lost some athleticism. I've gotten older. He's not as

(30:48):
quick as he used to.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, wait till he gets forty two, and tell me
how old do you feel twenty three?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
He's still a baby. He said. He's been watching his
high school film to reminisce about how athletic he used
to be.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
How do you lose your athleticism that quick from eighteen
to twenty three? Yeah, well again, and wait till he
gets my age. He won't be able to walk if
he's losing his athleticism that quickly.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Maybe a little stretch lab for our guys. Yeah, it
doesn't have maybe mobility or great posture at twenty three, though,
if he's already complaining about feeling old, like you said, Chan,
and wait till he gets to forty. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Has he really lost that much athleticism or is that
just him being hard on himself or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I don't watch a whole lot of you know, c J. Stroud.
These guys are forced to talk to the media almost
every day. Yeah, so they just make stuff up at
this point. Sometimes they make things up. Sometimes reporters have
to just dive deep into their bag to ask some
dumb questions and sometimes you get things like that. And finally,
one more NFL story. Have you seen how eventful Liam
Cohen has been in the NFL in these first four weeks.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh yeah, he's been chesty. He had a little confrontation
after the game he just last week.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Even at a defensive coordinator to keep my name out
of your mouth. At the end of the last NFL
game on the sideline, he's screaming at Trevor Lawrence. In
the first couple of weeks, there has been a lot
of content. He surrounded Liam Cohen in the first couple
of weeks of the NFL season. I think Kentucky fans
could have told you that that was coming.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, And don't believe a word that he says,
because he's you know, he comes in and said, I'm
want to plant my roots here and then six months
later he's gone to Jacksonville. But yeah, that confrontation that
he had last week was apparently they were who did
they play, I'm trying to remember nine ers and they
were accusing Leo my guests of legally stealing their plays, right,
stealing their signs.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, if you're legally doing it, then what's the problem.
You just said it's legal, so then what's what's the issue.
Liam took exception to Robert Salah talking about him and
saying signs stealing. In the press conference for the game.
When Robert sala went to shake his hand, Liam Cohen
blew him off, and then when the shouting happened, Liam
pulled the Will Smith and said keep my name out
of your mouth. There was not a slap.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Involved though, right, but I would say, if you're legal,
if I'm legally stealing your signs, you need to get
better at doing your signs.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Right. That's not that's not Liam Cohen's fault. No, he
comes from the Sean McVay coaching tree, which all of
them do this eagle sign stealing.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
So it's like baseball and a baseball pitcher. We were talking
about this on the show yesterday. If you tip your pitch,
you know what's coming. I mean, it's not on Liam Cohen.
It's not like he's going through some crazy scheme to
try to figure out what the signs are. He's looking
across the field, he's seeing what you're what you're doing.
He's picking up on it. He's telling his players.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
It's fair game in baseball, it's fair fair game in football,
as far as I'm concerned. And that's why it was
so crazy during the Little League World Series when one
of the coaches stopped the game to complain about sign stealing. Yeah,
but they.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Weren't like, not like the Houston Astros where they have
some sort of thing that beeps that strapped strapped around
their waist, trash cans and everything else. I mean, it
wasn't that that level of detail.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah. So I mean, if he ain't cheating, you're trying,
Shan he ain't trying, and sign stealing I think is
the epitome at that Ye would you welcome at Orgeron
to Kentucky? The former LSU coach says he's looking to
coach again. He left a little meat on the bone
and is ready to go. M wow.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
You know what, I haven't heard his name being mentioned
go tig It for a possible head coaching job at Kentucky.
But I mean, if he was out there and he
was available and the buyout happened, and that's a whole
other conversation. If Kentucky is gonna want to spend that
thirty eight million dollars for a buyout after the season.
Let's see how this season finishes first. But yeah, I mean,
if we're looking for a new coach at the end

(34:18):
of the season and he's a name that's out there,
I would entertain the idea.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
In football, you see programs and franchises hire the opposite
of what they had before. So I think, I mean
my expectation whenever Stoops leaves, you probably see an offensive
minding coach come into Kentucky, right just to kind of
do things a little bit differently. Yeah, but at Orgern,
I mean, who knows. I mean, that guy is just
a whole mess.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And John Gruden, I know that he mentioned he would
like to coach in the SEC. I don't know why
you would at least not just give him an interview.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't see Mitch making that higher, but
at least make it. He is a greater football mind.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, if you whatever went back and watched those
ESPN segments where he would just break down game film
into like such a great he's a great football mind
that I think would show.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, absolutely, I would love to have that guy on
the staff. I mean, I don't think he's gonna be
on the staff if he's not the head coach. But
you know, if he were a candidate, I would love
to have either one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
And the story that doesn't get enough attention nationally, Bobby
Petrino back at Arkansas. He'll be coaching as the head coach,
already fired the defensive coordinator and some assistance. I believe,
so Shannon and Bobby pasback.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So right, if he needs a moped to borrow, he
can have mine. We'll just have Ryan ride it down
to Arkansas. We know Ryan loves that moped. If you
saw that video that Mario put out.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And he tried to like talk it out or talk
out of it, he almost wrecked into the house as
soon he almost ran right in.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, the neighbor that gave you the band aid after
you stabbed yourself in my garage. He almost ran right
into a brick wall. And I'm gonna tell you that
brick wall would have won that fight. I would have
been happy, though he would wreck my moped.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Oh, it wouldn't have been long for that moped got wrecked.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
You ever used the bird scooter or anything like that,
I'm sure I have a couple of times. Yeah, yeah,
but I don't really like it now.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
There's some good wipeouts of some drunk people too. And
in the morning, trying to ride those things throughout the city,
you'll get a wipeout or two there. We need to
take a break though. We've got one segment remaining. It's
Billy and the Dude here on the Ksrpre Show. We'll
be right back. Welcome back. It is the KSR pre Show.
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Speaker 2 (36:30):
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The Titans, Okay, they have a really cool bourbon collection too,
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Speaker 1 (36:48):
A couple of new golf collections as well, so check
out Shady Rays. We've got some big games this weekend,
including Kentucky at Georgia Western. Kentucky takes on Delaware tonight.
Big matchup, Shannon, I'm sure you're tuned in for all,
can't It's Vandy in Alabama though, three point thirty on ABC. Shannon,
you're the Vandy guy. Do they have a chance? Man?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
This feels like something out of a fever dream. Really,
we're talking about Alabama and Vanderbilt, both of them ranked
in the top twenty, and ESPN Game Day is going
to be there. I would love to say Vandy has
a chance, but again, I'm I'm still very skeptical of
Vanderbilt because they've already played their non conference games. They
are five and zero, but three of those wins are
against Virginia Tech, Charleston Southern, and Utah State. They beat

(37:28):
South Carolina, but they really didn't look great against South
Carolina until they knocked out Sellers, Like that's really when
they went on their big run and ended up scoring
thirty one points in the game. Until then, I think
it was like seven to seven for most of the game.
So as much as I would love to say that
Vandy has a chance. I don't really believe it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm being honest with you. I will look, do I
hope Vandy wins one hundred and ten percent? Do I
think they're going to No?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I just don't. They beat Bama. They tore down the goalposts,
they threw it in the river, and they're gonna do
it again and make it to in a row.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yego Pavia is in the Heisman com You look at
the list of players he is on.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
There one other big game Penn State plays at UCLA.
Is there a bigger bag fumbler in college football history
than Nico eam Malaiyava? Oh my gosh, that guy I
forgot he was a You got to give me millions
more dollars to play at the University of Tennessee. They
call his bluff, they tell him to leave. He goes
to UCLA. They haven't won a game. Shannon and any

(38:25):
NFL dreams in aspray. I can never say it. How
do you say this last year? I'm Maliava? Yeah, I
thought it was ava Ea mali Ava. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well, I mean that's look. I mean, I don't know.
Can you blame the guy, though. I mean, if somebody
is willing to pay you as a eighteen nineteen twenty
year old kid, however old he is, to go to UCLA,
you're probably gonna go right, Yes, you are. That's the answer,
like answer for years.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
This is a cautionary tale for a lot of players
in NIL. I think you're gonna see a lot of
people handle it a little differently than Nico did, holding
out demanding millions of more dollars before they played somewhere else.
You got it, you had it good in the s
and now you're banished to the UCLA and irrelevancy. Shannon.
The World Cup is in twenty twenty six. Matthew McConaughey
expects soccer to become the country's third most popular sport

(39:11):
behind football and basketball after the World Cup in twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Do you think it's possible. It's very possible. Soccer has
become hugely popular. It's a little sad for me being
a baseball guy, but I realize when I talk about baseball,
I can just feel that I'm losing the crowd because
most people don't like baseball. It was America's pastime for
the longest time. But I don't know that it is anymore.
Soccer has become very popular, very very trendy. I think

(39:35):
that that's probably the case.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Unfortunately, you know, the United States had the World Cup
in ninety four that helped launch the MLS, So it's
definitely possible. But we were talking about it before the
show started. Playoff baseball is still great. Oh yeah. There
may not be a better postseason, maybe besides the NCAA
tournament than watching playoffs. There's a lot of drama.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
But I mean when you watch those soccer in other countries,
it's a whole event. Like they're chanting. They look like
they are having the most fun they've ever had at
the soccer matches. You know, it's hard for me to
get into it. I just can't.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I'm gonna say I disagree with Matthew McConaughey, not because
the sport of soccer isn't awesome. It's because I think
US might get embarrassed in this tournament. I mean, it
could be ugly. Yeah, they are not prepared. If they
were to go on a run and captivate the attention
and imagination of the country, then yeah, possibly, but I
don't think that may be the case, maybe a little
bit of an embarrassing moment, but it should be fun.

(40:23):
In twenty twenty six, we'll tid to try to go
to a game there. Dude, I'm still needing to get
out to the lex And Sporting Club and support them.
I mean, I'm talking about if you want to enjoy
soccer from a local level and you're in Lexindo or
even Louisville. Louisville City FC.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Both of them have great stadiums and just a really
cool atmosphere. I mean I haven't been there for a game,
like I said, but just the field itself, the stadium
is immaculate.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
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