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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KSR pre Show.
Today is Wednesday, October first. I am Billy Rutledgs along
with Shannon the Dude. You can give us calling the
Clark's Pumping Shop phone line. That's eight five nine two
eight oh two two eight seven. Text us five oh
two two six five six six five six and it's
always The KASR pre Show is brought to you by

(00:21):
Italics Fine Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky at the City
Center on Main Street. I am not in Lexington, Kentucky today.
I made the pilgrimage about an hour and a half
down here to Mount Washington, past the uh oh is
it like the Judo Center over there and the Dollar General.
Have made it into town, Yeah, and found the Culvis

(00:41):
Act where Shannon the Dude lives.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Where I'm at this, we have more Dollar General stores,
I think per capita than any other place in the world.
I mean, we used to have like three or four
just in this little bitty town. But you know, Billy,
there's an old saying in TV and in news, if
it bleeds, it leads, and I think we've got to
lead with you coming in to my garage and immediately

(01:03):
just doing a blade job, just just cutting yourself open
on some of the decor in the garage. You're already bleeding.
You've already you've already got a band aid on from
my neighbor Robert over here, who had to come to
the rescue. We had to put a tourniquet on it
so you didn't bleed out here. And what were you doing? Yeah,
I'm bleeding already this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I mean, just it's so excited to get here and
check out the house and check out the garage. This
man cave you got with the bar and the couch
set up, multiple TVs here in the garage. It's very nice.
And then my eye caught the golf club sitting over
there in the corner in the garage.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
The golf clubs from nineteen seventy two. It looks like
I think they predate the house.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You said your your dad has been living here for
like fifty something years or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well he did, right, yeah, yeah, and so doesn't currently
live with no correct, But those clubs look like they've
been here even before that.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So I started checking them out. And when I went
to pull a club up, you have like a like
a star, a Vandy star above the golf clubs on
the garage wall that could kill somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
So it's it's metal. And I used to do this
endorsement with Heck's Head Art and they made these industrial
looking logos for teams out of steel. I got a
Kentucky one right there on the other side. If you
look that one doesn't have nearly as many sharp edges.
But the Vanderbilt logo, being what it is, is just
a star. So it's a metal star with very very
sharp like razor sharp points. And as Billy is pulling

(02:30):
out one of my old golf clubs, his hand catches
the edge of the star. It immediately starts bleeding all
over the garage like blood everything. Yeah, we gotta get
mops out here and everything like it's a mess.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Thank god, your neighbor like runs into the house and
a band aid to get this cleaned up.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think Billy lost at least two pints of blood.
You know that you were trying to you know that time,
we were trying to get you to bleed so you
could donate blood. Yeah, it turns out we didn't need
a needle. We just needed the Vanderbilt logo to stab you.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I was so dehydrated that day they couldn't get any
blood out of me. And they tried both arms. You remember,
I come back in with banjies on both arms. That's
how he gave you the name. Was it Beta vein Billy?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Beta?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, Beta Billy was already going strong at that point.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Then the beta veins started coming out.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
But yeah, if you could warn people before you're throwing
star here hurts any more people they get here today,
that would be nice.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, you know, when I invite people over, I don't
think that they're just gonna start snooping through all of
my stuff. Like I thought you were about to go
through my uh you know, my tax papers and everything
downstairs in the basement. But no, you start coming over here,
and you know this place is booby trapped. You start
messing around, you might get stabbed by a star. You
never know what's gonna happen next. You just don't go
behind the bar.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
You don't have a company, because I mean, this place
is ready to blow at any moment.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I have plenty of company. They doesn't mind their own business,
unlike you who starts going If you want any of
my clubs by the way you can have them. I
know you're a golfer because that happened. I haven't used
those golf clubs in probably twenty years. That one's made
of hickory right there. I mean that does predate the house,
is it really? Is there one like a wooden club
in there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, that one that I was pulling out, which I
may lose a finger because of.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, just get a techno shot, so you know.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I go into the house and Shannon gives me some
of his some coffee is called a mocha shot.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Mocha shot, Yeah, with a little hazel maut nut creamer.
That's what I'm really here for. Well, hazel nut creamer.
We got the hazelnut coffee. If you want some hazelnut
beer later on. Okay, we got some of that over here.
I'm sure that's right.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I saw your shrine to Scott Wiland and Stone Temple Pilots.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
I wouldn't call it a shrine. It's like a couple
of set lists from shows that I've been to. And
then the guy from Louder than Life, who I think
I've talked about before with you on the show, Really
good artist, did this really kind of cool mural of
Scott Wiland and he gave it to me as a gift.
And when somebody gives you something like that, you can't
just be like Matt Jones and you know, set it
on the ground. I had to hang it up on
the wall.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, you did dedicate a whole like corner of that
room to it. And so I'm tiny where you like
pray every morning before you go to sleep, maybe a
quick prayer as well.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I understand that. Yeah, I mean he's only the greatest
rock star of all time, So I mean I think
he deserves at least a couple of pictures. It's our
nine hundred and ninetieth show together. Oh is it really? So?
I've heard that once or twice. It's no doubt we've
got ten more. What are you gonna do for me
on the thousandth show?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
What am I gonna do for you? What are you
gonna do for me? I mean the carrying the show
for all these episodes? You'd think you'd have a little appreciation.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, I mean I'm hosting you today, I'm inviting you
in here. I'm bleeding. Yeah, that's how you thank me.
If I invite you over, I give you coffee. What
do you do try and you bleed all over my house?
I mean, are you gonna you don't have any children?
Are you going to sue me? That's the question. I've
thought about it.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I mean, if it wasn't for your neighbor that rushed over,
then maybe I really would have a loss.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
So that that's why I was hesitant to invite anybody over.
So I thought, you know you're gonna come in here,
You're gonna trip and fall and then try to take
me for everything I got. Little did I know you
were just gonna stab yourself and bleed that? Yeah, I
didn't see a sign that's in warning sharp. Well, I
didn't know I needed that. I didn't know that I
needed enter at your own risk, like it's a haunted
house or something. I may do the little slipping fall
in the house a little bit later in the day.

(05:59):
So I got you. We'll keep you out of that
house duty. Yeah, well you're on record now now that
you've already said on public airwaves your intention to sue me.
I'll call TJ. He'll make you show a hold up
in court, please, I think, so we've got public record.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I do also like the little ticket frame that you
have here. My dad has done the same thing with
a table and a clear glass on top of it.
But very cool aesthetic over here with the table.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So those tickets and we'll take a picture and tweeter
duck because I know this is radio and you know
it's theater of the mind, but it's what would you say,
what is that picture? Frame? Size eighteen twenty.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, it's a little bigger than one you'd put on
your your desk or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You've got hung up on the wall. So I've got
just random ticket stubs that are hung up there. The
only problem is now when you go to a concert,
everything's digital. Oh yeah, so you don't really have any
sort of memorabilia from the concert. That's probably ten percent
of the concerts that I've been to, and there's probably
what would you say, uh, fifty.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, fifty sixty tickets in there. A cool trip down
memory lane anytime you can look at that.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And I don't know if the math checks out there
if that if that's really fifty tickets, and I said
that and I said ten percent.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
It's probably less than ten percent, right, I mean, you've
been to a ton more than.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't know, No, fifty fifty tickets and you say
that's ten percent. Yeah, so then don't make me do math.
But I feel like that would be the five hundred
or is it five thousand. I'm terrible at math either way.
I've been to one hundreds. I don't know if I've
been to five hundred. So maybe that's uh, let's call
it twenty percent. Okay, maybe fifteen, I don't know regardless.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
And it's right next to maybe one of my crowning
achievements of my life, the frame photo from Andy Basher
making you a Kentucky Colonel.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, you know, I really thought that being a Kentucky
colonel meant something. Then I saw that you also got one,
so I thought, well, hell, don't give those to anybody there.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
You've just put it behind like the fridge and the
CV over there. It's just kind of another thing you
have in the right and not the thing kind of
like it would be in mind exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, it's not like the featured part of the garage.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
And then I see like there's like a bent wrestling
belt back here in the core. Thing got run over
by a car.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
No, if you watched ww TV, you know that Adam
Revolver took a sledgehammer to that live on TV. Oh yeah,
that is the retired world heavyweight radio title. I should
bring out the new one and just set it here
on the table, just to remind you.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'd love to see it. I would, even though we
could get go to Walmart or the dollars. I'll pig.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Why don't you just go rummage through my closet. You've
already gone through every other corner of my house. I
have been through every corner.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
You got a nice little yard, and I mean pumpkins everywhere. Well,
Shan has taken these pumpkins from his garden and he
has set it up. I mean like all in front,
like in front of the front door. Yeah, and like
over here in the garage too. So I mean we
got pumpkins everywhere. Yeah, if you want one, I'll give
you one to go. If you want a pumpkin, what
a guy? Yeah, nice, give you that coffee. Maybe I

(08:42):
won't sue you for Okay, the dangerous weapons that you
have in your house.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's or at least your garage here, but it is
a cool setup spot.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You talk about all the neighbors coming over a little
Louisville Media Box over there, and so all these TV's
working on full capacity.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Here and not just one. There's plenty of those around here,
perfectly legal operating system.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Well, if you have any hookups in Mount Washington, it
maybe the Louisville Media boys. But it's good to be
here with you, dude. I'm glad you're not going to
complain about the commute. How early you had to wake up? Well,
heere's the thing.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know, your pace here on the pre show. That
is great that finally I get to be the one
to wake up because you know, during COVID, everybody got
to work from home. Yeah, except for one person me.
I had to get up every morning, drive in, risk
my life at getting COVID for you people, and I
had to go into work every day. Meanwhile, Matt and
Ryan and Drew all got to do their show from

(09:33):
their home for years. So I feel like I deserve
at least one day where I don't have to drive
into work. Well, this is your day, dude, this is
my day. It's your day.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
And you know I actually went to the studio during
COVID too in Lexington because I had to put on
the Andy Bsher press conferences on six thirty every single day.
Oh yeah, And the only other person in the building
was Steve Lewis. You know Steve right, he's gone national now,
he's big time, honest now. But he had his own
drum set in one of the studios in the old
lexing in building, So you were just drums. But I
would just hear drumming going on when I'm in supposed

(10:04):
to be the only one in the building during COVID
Note Steve's snuck in and he's playing his drum setup.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
So was I heart okay with that? Just turning there?
I guess nobody was in there, so what do they
care exactly?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, he had his own studio in there, and Steve's
now doing great things with National.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
What a wild time that was. I remember, like they
even gave us like these little cards. Oh I got it.
Let's see if I still still have that. I wonder
if I still have mine that he says to be
on the road.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So we had there was a curfew in Kentucky and
we had to have these IDs. So if we had
to go to the station to like put something on
the air or whatnot, if we got stopped by the
police here It is William Rutledge, a Critical Operations employee
here at I heard.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Me, Critical Operations. Look at that. Look at that picture,
by the way, about the picture, Oh my gosh, all right,
I'm taking a picture of this picture.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
You could take a photo? Yeah, Critical Operations. Yes, I
post it for the world. What's wrong with that picture?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
A lot? That's what I want to share it with everybody.
There's a lot. Wow, you look like Look how young
you are in this picture.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I will say that photo is from after I won
my first Fantasy Football championship, Shannon. I was taking a
picture with the new trophy in hand and decided to
cut it out to use it for my Critical Operations
employee ID.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
But you seem to think that I look like a
I don't know, man, very Yeah, you got the hair
slick back, you're all clean shaven. You don't look anything
like you look now.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Man, I would have never thought that it's showing my
emergency response team ID would lead to me getting criticism online. Well,
yet I should think that by the amount of responses
I got from my hate of Peter the Dog, your
Street's dog yesterday.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, your hate for Peter the Dog was unnecessary it's
a golden retriever. Who doesn't I mean other than Matt Jones,
who doesn't love dogs and golden retrievers.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, Kirk Kurbstreet, listen, I usually bat ten for ten.
I'm batt in one thousand loving dogs. I just this
dog I hate. This is the one dog I don't like.
It is constantly in my and I can't get away
from Kirk kurb Street's dog. Who doesn't need to have
a headset on while the game is going on in
the booth. They've got the dog on two legs on

(12:10):
the desk acting like it's calling the game. Shannon, it's
just gotten too far.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
So so has Peter the Dog replaced Lee Corso? Is
that basically what's happened with the ESPN Game Day? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think, you know, Pat McAfee has become like the
pick at the end guy and so so, you.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Know, I wonder about Pat McAfee with that kick, because
he always says he's gonna throw in like an extra
one hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thousand dollars. That
can't be his money. It is. They did like a
research on it, but how much money is he getting
paid to do that show if he's willing to give up,
you know, one hundred two hundred thousand dollars a week
for somebody to make a field goal. Who, by the way,
somebody did this past week, right, Yeah they did.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
But there's a little controversy to all that, Shannon, because
the people that are getting picked are allowed to pick
someone else to kick for them, right.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
So I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Now, the whole point is to find people that don't
know how to kick see if they can do it.
If I just picked Bob and he's like, oh, I
know this guy that plays soccer that could come kick
for me, what fun is that?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I mean, imagine somebody actually knew a former like really
good d one college football kicker, Yeah, you know, liked
I know Max Sduffie was a punter, but I feel
like he could probably also kick a field goal. So
if they called my name out, I would have Max
Duffy ready to just tag him in and let's win
some money and split it. Yeah, when we pick the
halftime or really first media timeout, let's shoot from half

(13:33):
court contest. Yeah, they're picking people that look like they
can't get the ball to the hoop. Yeah, so like,
if they could just pick a basketball player to do
it for him, that just kind of defeats the purpose
for me. But I would just go to go to
the locker room and ask one of the current Kentucky
players to come out and shoot, you know, come on
out here, a better shot than me.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
So a lot of frauds on college game day, we've
just been talking about them.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Who is not a fraud?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Is? Uh?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Richie and Buck? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yesterday, no breaking news, no like overarching story to talk about,
just those guys sharing stories.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yesterday was a lot of fun, a lot of fun.
Richie does such a great job when he's on the show.
I love hearing his stories. And you know, when he
was on the pre show, he was talking about what
it was like to practice with Rick Patino and you know,
some of the things that they had to do, getting
up at five o'clock in the morning and go into
a track and just running. And you know, like you said,
I think Mark Pope has taken a lot of Rick

(14:24):
Patino's personality and the way he conducts practice. And you
see that now I think with the current team.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I did like to hear that Richie was kind of
like us about Mark Pope, like really Mark Pope. Yeah,
as the higher Yeah for Kentucky and eventually comes around
to it like all of us did. He understands more
than anybody, you know, what it means to play for Kentucky.
And that was one of the big things that Mark
Pope has felt that many people he has brought back
to Kentucky. So it was great to hear from Richie
and Bucky yesterday, and you know, we'll keep it rolling.

(14:55):
Matt returns on Friday, will be at Shady Rays in Louisville.
So we're doing the show today from Shannon's and then
we'll have one more show until that show on Friday. So, Shan,
we got a lot to talk about baseball games, yes,
oh yeah, yep. We got another slate of college football
in the NFL coming up this weekend, including Kentucky at Georgia.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
So I'm just gonna try not to bleed anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Here in the call it a successful show.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
To stay put, don't move from that spot. You're safe there, Yeah,
just don't start rummaging through anything else.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, I got my coffee, I should be fine, and
I'll take a pumpkin home with me as we go.
We're having a good time in Mount Washington and Shannon
the Dude and Billy Rutledge. We'll be right back here
on the show. Before the show, it is the KSR
pre Show. Welcome back to Mount Washington, Kentucky, where we
are taking over Shannon the Dude's house, his garage, the
man Cave for the day. Billy Rutlige and Shannon the Dude.

(15:46):
Mario and Ryan are here a little early, so they
were just getting a tour. Follow Mario on Twitter and
at KSR the show to see all the pictures from today.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Including them.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Mario, get a picture of that star that's gonna take
out another cass by the time.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Ryan said, it is appropriate that it was the Vanderbilt logo,
the one Vanderbilt thing that I have in this entire
garage that took you out. Well, they're hot this year, right,
I mean they are Diego Pavio Hell College game day
at Alabama versus Vandy this week. That's one of those
things that feels like only could happen in a video game. Yeah,
you know, like that's not real life. Vanderbilt and Alabama
college game day.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
What now?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Look, I expect Alabama to just completely destroy Vanderbilt. Oh,
come on, no, No, I mean, well, you know, I'm
just saying if I were doing it on DraftKings, I
don't know what the spread is. Maybe you can look
or maybe one of us can look that up quickly here,
but I would I would take Bama and the points
me personally, because I just feel like Alabama is going
to be mad about what happened last year. They got

(16:45):
embarrassed down in Nashville, and I think they're just gonna
roll in. And Bandy's played a lot of their non
conference games too, that's why they're five. And oh they
played three non conference games so well.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Alabama big win at Georgia, so they're coming off Alabama's
minus ten and a half.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Wow, I would hammer, Come on, hammer Alabama ten or now. No,
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Speaker 1 (17:56):
One person on the text line says, I can go
to the craft section at Walmart and get the stuff
to throw together a copy of STD's belt if you want, Billy.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Ow oh really like that? Okay, you want to get.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
That together and have another keepsake here at here at see,
everybody's got you know, everybody's chesty, everybody's really brave online,
but nothing, not one of those people have ever stepped
into the ring with me, not one.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
That's because none.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
You only choose old men past their prime that were Speedo's.
I mean that's your only Don't talk about Tony b.
Benetti like that or aging. I guess wrestlers so that
they can have a finale during a time.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I mean, I invited you, and I've invited you in
multiple times to the ring. You keep crying about this
neck and this wreck that you were in and you
know you won't get in there with me because of that.
But I think the excuses are run out. I'm glady
for you to step I was in there yesterday training.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well more first Choice health and wellness and maybe stretch
Labs will get me to a point where we can
do something like that, Shannon. But speaking of you know,
just throwing things together from the craft section at Walmart,
the Reds did make the playoffs this year.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Do you think that they're basically the craft section of Walmart?
Is that what you're saying eighty three and seventy nine, Well,
I mean, look, somebody's got to get in as the
wild card.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
They ate in because the Mets collapse and lose on
the final day, and you know, at times looked like
it against the Dodgers last night show. Hey o Tani
hitting a couple home.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Run Gosh, they were just teen off last night and
it was ten to at one point. Then the Reds
I think, strung together a few runs in the eighth,
ten to five.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Ten to five bases were loaded. I mean theoretically they
could come back with the Dodgers shut the door there
and get the victory. But you're right, I mean the Dodgers,
it's a sport where they can spend two hundred million
more dollars than the other team. So I mean, what
do you expect at times? But you know if you're
gonna beat the bet? Looking right, Ryan?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Right? Ryan just brought in the uh Marion County Country
Ham Day's KSR Hog Calling Champion Trophy. Just to add
to the other. We've got a lot, a lot of
prestigious titles in here. Yeah, we got the Hog Calling
Contest Championship. We've got the World Heavyweight Radio title. Another sham,
I mean the equivalent basically, the equivalent to having the
Lombardi Trophy in your garage.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I actually called the Hogs that day. All he did
was do a cat's chain. I could not believe, he
pandered to the crowd that night.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
The people spoke, do you watch any of the other
baseball games? I watched them all. Yeah, I loved it.
You know, I'm a big baseball fan, so for me,
it was like the first round of the NCAA basketball tournament.
Tigers end up winning their first game after collapsing against
ended up winning the first You know, every game basically
that I picked. This is why I don't really bet
on baseball, because I'm horrible at it. And every game

(20:33):
that I picked, with the exception of the Reds game,
went the other way. I said, there's no way the
Yankees lose with Max Freed on the mound at home
Red Sox win. Well, they shouldn't have.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I mean, they had the bases loaded, no outs, bottom
of the ninth, They're down two, and then Chapman goes strikeout, flyout,
strikeout to get out of the jam. And so that
was an exciting finish. Love to taste the tears of
Yankees fans.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yep. And then the Cubs ended up winning. I thought
the Padres would win that one. But now we do
it all over again. It's the same thing today, same
same slate, of games same time, and it's very possible
that the Reds will be out in and out of
the playoffs. We're doing the hokey pokey. They're in and
out of the playoffs before Matt Jones can return from Southeast. Yeah,
and that's sad.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I mean, let's let's lease it for the guy that
wins reads the magazines at your games. It would like
for him to come back and watch something at Chas
Bar and Grill. I'm glad they got rid of the
one game playoff.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh yeah, I am too. That was the dumbest thing
that you know, you would play one hundred and sixty
two game season, all of which are three game in
four game series, and then have it all come down
to one game. Was the worst I think rule maybe
in sports history, to have a one game playoff. Yeah,
it's just not baseball. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, I mean, I like the drama, but it's just
for the sport when to come down to one game
like that, I mean, it's fine if it's a game seven,
you've already played six in the series.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I'm good with it in football. I'm good with it
in basketball, but so much in baseball just comes down
to pitching matchups and how you manage your both right
and pretty early. So that's why you exactly, that's why
you have to have series in baseball, especially in baseball playoffs.
And I'm glad they got rid of that. So yeah,
it does. It's more baseball for us.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Baseball is a full slate of games tonight. I did
like Ryan saying yesterday that you know, Matt leaves the
country and the UK baseball team makes the College World
Series leaves again, Red's.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Make the playoffs. That's right here.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Some correlation there, yep. But we're here in Shannon's garage.
We'll keep it rolling when we come back. Shannon the Dude,
Billy Rutledge here on the Case our Pre Show. All right,
welcome back Wednesday edition of the KS our Pre Show,
Billy and the Dude live from the Dude's Garage. In
this segment is brought to you by Stretch Labs, a
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(22:43):
a fifty minute assisted stretch in Lexington, fifty minutes fifty
minutes assisted stretch and they said, I'm making some progress.
So we going for like three or four weeks. I
can touch my toes good. Well, you couldn't touch your
toes at Bywater Farm Life Friday. I did at Bywater
Farms also seeing a little bit better posture.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, that's about products ability. So yeah, i'd just kind
of hunch over. I think it's from sitting down all day. Well, yeah, yeah, exactly.
You know I sit down for long periods of time
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Speaker 1 (23:37):
They told me I am not balanced, so I have
more flexibility on one side of my body than I
do the other.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I've always said that about you. You're not very balanced.
You're not very balanced individual.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Billy.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, I'd say I'm a very consistent individual, but may balanced.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You know who knows. So, speaking of consistent individual. Are
you finishing, Oh yeah, I'm good going. Ryan, of course
is here. We're gonna find out on KSR coming up
next hour if he remembers to bring the A vision
text machine.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
On the text line right now, somebody says Ryan brought
his trophy, but did he bring.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
His text We're gonna find out. Stay tuned, stay tuned.
So we're not gonna give you that answer yet.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
I genuinely don't know, and I'd rather wait for the
show later to find out. A five nine two, two
to eight seven will take some calls in just a minute.
I learned during the Reds game that Terry Francona, the
manager who come out came out of retirement to bring
the Reds to the playoffs, choose over a hundred pieces
of gum each game.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah I don't believe that. Yeah, but I don't believe
that one hundred pieces.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I could understand ten, because you'd be just doing it
by the inning, right, I mean, maybe an extra one
right there, But a hundred that's a little too much.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So I mean, like, are we talking about bubble gum
because some of that, Like I remember playing your little league,
you would always have a double bubble at the bazuka
and that stuff would only last for about two minutes.
That's what he must be chewing. So yeah, I mean,
why not get something that lasts a little longer.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Terry Francona the broadcast that he likes to mix it
up with his flavors, spearmit, you know, apple. You know,
it's just there's not one flavor that he likes. But
when they said when he said a hundred pieces of gum,
I thought that was a little bizarre.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I was watching a game, I think last week, and
he was pouring out his sunflower seeds like on the
ralling of the dugout, okay, and just like just eating
them off the rilling of the dugout. Terry was yes, yeah,
And I thought, you know, again going back to the
COVID stuff and we were all so afraid of like
germs and stuff like that. He's just eating sun flowers.
He's off the ralling. You know, I don't know. I
would think maybe you puur them in your hand and

(25:33):
pop them in your mouth. Oh look, he does that
anywhere else, and he's a psycho. But in baseball. Baseball
has some really like nasty habits.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
These superstitions and like these things that they do. Maybe
that is acceptable. Also Terry Francona and the Reds. His
team theme this year is they can't kill us, We're
like cockroaches. Hmmm, well I thought of you.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
The Dodgers are about to kill them. Okay, you thought
a cockroach? You thought of me?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
No, because I was going to bring this up, and
I thought of you as you were probably gonna say,
why would you compare yourself to cockro Right?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, why are you saying putting yourself in the same
Come we were talking about Zach Calzada being a golden Retriever, right,
I don't think why would you? Or was it was
it Cutter or Zion's cutter that's being likened to a
golden retrutter. That's right, Cutter that's being likened to a
golden retriever, not Zach Calzada. Yeah. So I wouldn't want
my quarterback to be a golden retriever, and I wouldn't
want my baseball team to be compared to cockroaches. But

(26:28):
it looks like the Dodgers are about to kill I
think it's pretty simple.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
But yeah, the Dodgers might be doing a little boot
to cockroach here in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
We'll find out tonight exterminator is coming in to kill them.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Speaking of football, Kentucky is a twenty two and a
half point underdog now at Georgia.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Between the hedges, we.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Know Stoops likes to have a little fun and cover
the spread. Remember down at Georgia, he takes a time out.
They score kind of last minute to cover that spread.
People got upset. In the past, Kentucky's played Georgia pretty
well over the years. Not great in Athens, but overall
they've been a pretty good opponent for Kur be smart.
Kentucky just can't score more than two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's the thing. I mean, if you're going to beat Georgia,
he got it. I mean, oh my gosh, it's gonna
have to be like a thirteen to ten game. I felt.
I really felt like last week if Kentucky could have
scored twenty four points going into the game, if they
could have scored like twenty four, they could possibly win
the game. Now, the game up thirty five, so you
know that's because of the turnovers that happened. But you know,

(27:25):
I feel like if Kentucky is going to win games
in the SEC. They've got to grind it out, They've
got to play methodically. I would love for them to
be able to sling the ball around. Unfortunately, it's just
not Kentucky's m O. I don't know, like what the
offense would look like if they just let Cutter Bully
just throw it all over the field. I feel like
there would be a lot of interceptions, and probably it
would be a worse product than what you already have.

(27:46):
But it's just so hard to watch the team play
so slow, and that's been a thing that they've done
over the years.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Will help me figure that out because Stoops' is adamant
that he doesn't impact play calling, but yet one offense
coordinator after another other seems to be under the thumb
of Stoops in which the overall philosophy is ground and pound,
you know, play a game of possession, you know, outpossess
your opponent. I mean that overall is going to impact

(28:13):
what these coaches and offensive coordinators do. So you know,
he can say that he doesn't impact the play calling,
but we've seen a track record of all these different
offensive minds do the same thing over and over again.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, and you look at what Liam Cohen's doing in
the NFL. Look at what he's doing in the NFL.
And you know Shannon Dawson, that didn't work out very well.
Head coach soon. So yeah, I mean the one thing
that keeps going, you keep going back to is the
head coach. So we hear that Mark Stoops doesn't sort
of slow things down, but it feels like he does. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I mean I'm not on the inside, so I'm not
on the headset like the Colts owner. If you've seen
that who's taken over, she's like on the sideline on
a headset, listening to me.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I haven't seen that.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, So the new Colts owner just stands there on
the sideline during practices and games. She has a headset
and in his lit at all times. I feel like
Jerry Jones is like one of those owners that would
do that. I feel like he's one step away from
from having the headset. I don't want the owner the
head set listening to what the boys are saying, trying
to call a game.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Who's going to tell the owner, No, he's the owner,
he's the boss she at this point or he or she? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, Kurry Smart says Kentucky fans should be grateful for
Stoops for all that he's accomplished over the years.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Do you think that's true? And if you look at
the big picture of things, I've never thought that Kentucky
football in my lifetime would be able to get the
ten wins. They've done it twice. Now. I guess some
of those games were taking off the record because of
the violations that were committed, right, So I don't know.
We still get to count those two and we do
not get to count the second regardless. I watched the seasons.
I know they won the games. I'm like global fans

(29:43):
when it comes to their vacated title. I watched them
win the championship. They won. But you know, I think
just recently it's been very frustrating, and it feels like
the last couple of years has felt more like his
first few years at Kentucky. You know, there's like started off,
you know, poorly, But I think that's reasonable. He has
a rebuild and there's a honeymoon period. Then the middle

(30:06):
section of his career here at Kentucky pretty good.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right, start making Bowl games consistently. Was it eight games
a row that they made or maybe he was eight
to one.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Right row, And now I feel like we're kind of
getting back to those first couple of years with Stoops,
and it feels like he has sort of hit his
peak already and now he's on the down trend. I
hope that that's not going to continue. But I don't think.
You know, we've talked about will Stoops be around next season.
I think that he will unless this things completely fall
off the rails and they end up with three wins

(30:34):
or something like that. But but it's not gonna happen
at the mid It's gonna happen the mid season point.
They're not gonna fire him now.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Right, And we've talked about Stoops being a victim of
his own success, but could he also be a victim
of just how long he's been at the place.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean, you can't win every year.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
There's gonna be some peaks and there's gonna be some valleys,
especially in the SEC right, I mean, there's gonna be
some regression some years, and some teams will go up
and some will go down. So it just depends on
your tolerance. A lot of people are just like, what
have you done for me lately?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
And so Kirby Smart reminding Kentucky fans that Stoops has
done a lot, even though that we seem to be
on the out right now. But that doesn't mean, you know,
there weren't good times, right, I mean, even though maybe
there is time for a change, that doesn't mean that
there were good time. It just depends on again, like
I'm breaking up with somebody, it does. But it's all
about expectations some good times. So what is the expectation

(31:23):
for Kentucky football?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Six? Seven wins? So that's I feel like that's what
it's been for a while. Don't you think that's fair? Though? Yeah? Yeah,
but it's because of Stoops. Sure, yeah, but well I
feel like it's always been at least let's get to
a bowl game, right. I feel like he raised the
stakes for a while. Looks helped. I've helped with that, Yeah, yeah,
But I feel like Stups raised the stakes for a
while to where it was like, Okay, seven is just

(31:46):
a mediocre year. We can get to eight, nine, and ten.
Now I don't feel that way again. I feel like
we've taken a step back now. Our expectations have gone
from maybe we can get eight, maybe we can get
nine maybe on you know, every five years get ten wins.
It's like, let's just get back to six.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Well, they're doing it a different way right now, and
that's with a homegrown product in Cutter Bully. I mean
we've seen all these transfer quarterbacks come in maybe spend
one two years with Kentucky and have success in spurts,
but trying to do it a little different with Cutter
Bully eight five, nine, eight oh two.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Two eight seven. Let's take our first call the day.
Who's up first? Rick? John Short is up first? Oh Johnny,
what's up? Man?

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Not that much, but we're gonna win and speaking no,
we're gonna win in football, which we will be. Georgia
are gonna beat Mississippi and volleyball, so we're gonna win
that game too.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Just five biggins for the football team, John, I mean
that's respectable. I think you respect your opponent Georgia here,
But Kentucky's still gonna get the win.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
At least if we can do it in Vollivall, Well,
sure we can do it in football.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Well, I believe in our volleyball program. I don't know
that I believe in our football program, especially playing Georgia
we're just pretty coming off of a lost Alabama be motivated. Yeah,
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
If and order Wilson Tuggie in Athens in two thousand
and nine doesn't started the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Matthew Stafford the the quarterback for Georgia at the time.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
John, I mean that was a long time ago, two
thousand and nine. It feels like.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I know, and I disagree with Shannon that Alavan Vanbielt
is gonna be Alabama.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
That's right. Oh you know what, John, I need your
confidence set aside billy confidence. I want John Short confidence
that we really believe Vanderbilt could beat Alabama. And I'm
gonna give John Short all the credit if Vanderbilt somehow
wins that game. So John, I hope you're right. I
hope you're right. Yep. And and we appreciate the call.
You're a great American. Is there anything else you got?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
No? None much other. I'm gonna say when the World Series,
here's what it needs to do. I think it needs
to be like win the first game you go on
and play on the mutual courter to playing on your
own court. Just let you still be tournament. Just win
the first game, then move on think.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
You think baseball should be that way.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
John likes the the sudden death in baseball.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
I don't know if I can get on board with that.
But Johnny, we got the Great American Burger which was
named for you at CHS Bar and Grill on special
once again, I think today at KS Bar and Grill
for the Reds game. So that's it's gotta make you
feel special that you got your own burger.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah, yep, yes, thank you, John.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Thanks for the kicking, John, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You've been talking a lot of trash about Vandy today.
What's the closer game, Vandy Alabama or Kentucky Georgia.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Oh that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
M m.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Man. I don't even I think Kentucky. Maybe Kentucky's like
sixteenth in the country. I know, but I just don't.
Here's why I don't believe in Vanderbilt entirely. Number one,
you're playing Georgia, I mean, you're playing Alabama and they
just beat the Well, yes, but they just beat Georgia,

(34:57):
the number one team in the country. And Vanner built schedule. Yeah,
they're five to zero and that looks great, but they
played three non conference teams, so that you know, like
Kentucky's non conference teams are kind of scattered out a
little bit. You get Tennessee Tech later on the season,
they've already they've already played all those games Utah States
and those type of Charleston Southern.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
All right, I just don't want a victory lap Monday
after Vandy beats Alabama.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Oh, I'm going to take a victory lap, but I'm
not going to I'm not gonna say that I predicted it.
But here's the good thing, though, a lot of the
things that I predict are wrong. So maybe this is
like the the you know, the normal let's bet against me,
fade my picks and Dandy Wentz.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
And against your favorite team, just so you do have
some happiness there. You get the day somebody's gonna win
and somebody's gonna lose. Eight five nine two eight oh
two two eight seven text us at five oh two
two six, five six six five six before we go
to the break. The Simpsons two the movie is gonna
be coming out in July of twenty twenty seven. Shannon,
I think that's well deserved. I think the first Simpsons
movie is critically underrated.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Well, I gotta tell you, I didn't know there was
a Simpsons one movie. Stop it? When did that come out?
Years ago? Years ago?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
But why do you need a movie? You got thousands
of episodes. He didn't see Spider Pig anything like that. No,
oh man, no, I do like the tree House of Horrors.
I do like they're good tree. That used to be
my like vice as a kid, is my when my
mom was away, Dad would put on the Simpsons. Oh really,
watch of Simpsons and they would say shut up and
things like that, and then I eat.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
My short shut up, eat my shorts. Where did you
pick that up? You know?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
It's because I'm watching the Simpsons with my dad. So
Simpsons two coming out in twenty twenty seven. I think
that is well deserved. We'll get Shannon to watch the
first one before then.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Hopefully. Have you watched Auknown Number yet? And I'm still
waiting for somebody to give me their Netflix logain? Oh stop,
Ryan told me he would he did not, so no,
I haven't seen it yet. Man, you're missing out. I
haven't seen it. Take take my advice. Watch n Number
when you get the Netflix. And you've only been telling
me to watch this for like a month now. Yeah,
it's gonna be a moot point by the time, maybe
about twenty twenty six, I'll have watched.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Twenty twenty seven and I'll go to see the Simpsons movie.
Shannon might watch on No.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Number.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
They'll take a break. Be right back here on the
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(38:01):
made a photoshop of me rating your refrigerator after the show.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Well, if you want to, you can go see what's
in there. There's not much. I think there's some of
moms left over vegetable soup in there, maybe some random condiments,
you know, some mustard stuff like that. Not much in there, though,
you'd be better off in the freezer. Any banana croquette, No, no, no,
I don't know how to make those. I mean I
know how to do it, but.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Well you are in the land of banana croquette, so
I figure, yeah, just have some.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I mean, I am not a cook, like I will
fire up that grill behind you, you know, during the
summer and do some burgers and brots, maybe some steaks.
Other than that, I'm not cooking anything like. It's to
go for me.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
And from what I just heard, I'm looking forward to
Mario's next What's Next podcast with Grills and Ryan Lemon,
So yeah, stay tuned for I think that's coming out
on Sunday. Somebody calling bs On Tarry Francona chewing one
hundred pieces of gum per game on the text line, Yeah,
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
The average game is two hours and thirty eight minutes long.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
That's a piece of gum every one and a half
minutes during each game.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
So I'm yeah, go ahead. And he's doubling and tripling
up on his piece pieces of gum, you know, some
of those little pieces of gum. And I don't know
what kind of guming choose, but it's still a lot though,
Like yeah, it's uh, it's almost like an O. C.
D thing. He has to be.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
He has to be having those zebra stripes pieces of gums.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah that uh completely lose their flavor
in the first Is it true.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Or false that if you swallow gum it stays in
seven years?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, I've heard that's fut I feel like that's a myth.
But I didn't. I didn't dare swallow pieces. I mean
I was scared straight.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, I thought that I would just have like a
little bubble gum gut with all the gum that I'm
swallowing piece of gum.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
It's gonna be in there the rest of my life, exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
It's going to like stick to everything. Then what I'm
what will I do? Then?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Somebody at iHeart asked us if we wanted to give
away Adam Sandler tickets in the coming weeks or so,
and we said yes.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well, first of all, I said, who's that? Because we
got a running joke with our promotions office where they
will ask us a lot of times, hey, do you
want to give a free tickets to this person? That person?
A lot of times I'm like, who who is that?
I don't even know? Then when Adam Sandler's name came up,
I had to say, all these country singers and we're like,
who is that? Current singers? I just a amn.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
So I think we are going to give those away.
At some point we may limit the games. But I
did feel a little better when I heard Nick Coffee's
game this morning on wha Oh.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I didn't hear what he's trying to give away tickets?

Speaker 1 (40:23):
And he did Louisville trivia and he wanted to make
it a little bit more difficult, not like, what's the
biggest sporting event in the city of Louisville that's been
running for over one hundred and fifty years. So he
had two callers on and they did multiple choice four
questions each and they missed every single question. Wow tickets
to both of the guys. Wow, said, you know what,
maybe it is a little bit more relatable in these

(40:44):
failed games.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
There goes Drugh, he just drove by. There he's pulling
a Yui. There he goes, Okay, there he is. Okay, Yeah,
as long as we don't use AI for our next
trivia with that, so we have to avoid that was embarrassing. Well,
we had to own up that AI gave us the
quote I'm not a smart man, I know what love is,
and that was supposed to be an Adam Sandler movie
and obviously that was Forrest Gump.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
That was well, screw this over there. Well, remember we
using deep Seek the Chinese AI. I don't use that wrong. Yeah,
I'm gonna stick to the American AI this next time.

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bonus bets only on DraftKings the Crown of yours. Well,
thanks for hosting us here today, dude. Absolutely, Yeah, anytime
has bandages. Yeah, you're able to work that out. Yeah,
good thing. And you're you're invited back for the Halloween party. Yes, good.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
The fiance is dressing up as the kool Aid Man
this year. So what will you be? The wall? The wall? Okay,
it's gonna buzz through you something like that. Okay, all right,
well that's gonna do it for us. KSR is next
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.

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