2025-11-12- KSR PRE-SHOW

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone. It is the KSR pre Show. It's Wednesday,
November twelfth. I am Shannon the Dude and Louisville being
brought being joined by Billy Rutledge over in Lexington. Give
us a call in the Clark Spuppet shot phone line
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six six five six Ksrpre Show being brought to you
by it Talics Fund Italian Dining in Lexington. And well,
that didn't go as expected last night. Billy Kentucky loses
to Lobell ninety six eighty eight. It was a great
road environment. I'll give you my initial takeaways, you can
give me yours. I think the first thing that I

(00:42):
really noticed watching these two teams play was just how
similar they play. Louisville and Kentucky, both of them up
and down the floor, play a fast pace, a lot
of three point shots going up. I mean, Louisville kind
of beat Kentucky at their own game. You know, Kentucky
likes to play fast. They like to shoot a lot
of threes. He had thirty four attempts, Louisville gets up

(01:03):
forty three point shots. But I think Billy also the
thing that take away from this game is the defense
that we saw in that Georgetown game kind of reared
its ugly head again because if you look at the
offense going on the road in that environment, scoring eighty
eight points. Yeah, there were some bad things individually on
the offense, but overall, just looking at the team offensively,

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when you go on the road, you play your rival,
you play in that loud environment, you get eighty eight points,
that's not all that bad. But the defense still leaves
a lot to be desired.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, that was a tough one last night.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's good to see you this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I'm actually broadcasting from my house trying to cheer myself
up looking at my certificate from Andy Basheer when he
named me a Kentucky colonel.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Shit, you haven't framed that yet. So see, here's the
difference between you and I as a colonel. You get
the certificate saying that you're a colonel, you just kind
of throw it aside and set it by your computer.
I've got to hang it up in my man cave.
It's got its own frame. It's got its own place
on the wall. You're not taking being a colonel seriously.
I think we to revoke no colonelism, no for not

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being a good colonel and taking it seriously being a
colonel here in Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I can hang a picture frame, but I am too
lazy to go get the thing framed to then put
on the wall. So but yeah, it's here. I'm looking
at it, trying to smile a little bit. I was
pumped up yesterday after our great show at bear Nos.
And then and then the game started and Louisville eventually
got up to a twenty point lead, Shannon, How crazy
was that? And maybe even crazier was Kentucky battling him

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back to make it a two point game late in
the fourth quarter. But then you only score four points
in the final four minutes of the game when you
needed him most. They it just got tough scoring at
the end. And you're right about defense, though, I mean
that was concerning. I think to a degree, you just
gotta you got to give it up to that freshman
mckel Brown's going twenty points in the first half.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
He couldn't be stopped. We hadn't no answer for him, he.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Was really good.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
He's gonna be a lottery pick likely, and and he
had his night. And look, Louisville fans were crying and
hugging each other after the game. It was their first
sellout since what twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, where they
were crying.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
You saw people crying in the stand.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Stephen Peak reported people were in tears hugging each other
after the game. Right, so, I mean it means a lot.
This means a lot to Louisville. This might be a
catalyst to their season. And rightly so. When you are
when you trail an all time series forty to eighteen, now,
Kentucky has dominated Louisville, but they were hungrier last night.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think they wanted it more.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Some of the problems we saw in the Georgetown game
reared its ugly head again and Shannon Kentucky didn't get
a lot of production from the five spot, whether it
be Brandon Garrison getting fased out of the game at times,
Malachi Moreno just maybe looked a little bit outmatched. I
think they really missed a guy like Jaden Quaintan's in
this game, and maybe why that was such a talking
point going into it. But you know, turnovers and assists

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was the first thing Mark Pope brought up. It was
the first thing Jack Gibbons brought up in the post game.
And I'll bring it up here again. Kentucky is not
gonna get it done. When what Shannon? They had fourteen
assists in fourteen turnovers compared to Louisville's twenty assist and
six turnovers. You know, fourteen turnovers, you see that, but
it's manageable. But to only for six turnovers for a

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Louisville team that's going up and down the floor, they're
shooting a lot of shots. It was just it was
a recipe for disaster and that's how it ended up
with a Louisville victory.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Shannon.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
But it was tough last night watching that game, no doubt.
In the postgame show, I think people were ringing some
alarm bells about what they saw from this roster otega
Oway not living up to expectations.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
What's wrong with him right now?

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Sit?

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Well, I mean he had twelve points last night.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So we talked about yesterday the fact that last year
we just took him for granted and he was getting
us double figures every single game. He does have to
be better though, he and Low have to be better.
They shot it combined. I think it was six for
twenty one or something like that. You have to have,
especially in a game like this where you're playing a
Loisville team that likes to shoot a lot of threes.
Your backcourt has to be better, and they just weren't

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last night. But I will say, if we're talking about
the positive side of the offense, Colin Chandler and Aberdeen
were basically the guys who stopped this from being a blowout.
This game very easily could have been a blowout. When
they were down about twenty points, I was like, are
we gonna lose about twenty five or thirty points tonight?
But then Aberdeen, he showed you what he's got. He

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showed you his potential. I think he also earned himself
a lot of future minutes with the way that he
played last night. But he and Colin Chandler were the
reason this went from a twenty point game to a
four or five point game and really kept Kentucky from
getting blown out last night. The other thing, though, the
bad side of the offense, I think he got to
take a hard look at playing Brandon, Garrison and Modea

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Batte together. I think that you just, you know, you
don't you have a couple of guys out.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
There who just aren't shooters.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
And again, when you're playing a team like Louisville and
you're gonna see some of these teams come up again
in the SEC, like an Alabama likes to shoot a
lot of threes. You got to match that. So you
can't have a line of up where you're you know,
you're playing against the team that's got four shooters in
a big and you got two or three shooters and
two bigs. So they're gonna have to you know, I
think Pope's going to look at the rotation and possibly

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not play Diabate and Garrison as much together out there.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, another positive you mentioned Chandler who hit a three
from the logo last night. He was good in Aberdeen.
Where would they be in that game without him? I'll
give you another guy. How about Cam Williams. Yeah, you know,
Oway was out of the game for the most part
in those final ten minutes, Cam william comes in hits
its first shot of the year, was two for two
from the field was plus eleven and the plus minus
which is by far and away the best plus minus

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on the Kentucky team this year. Had a rebound and
a put back dunk Man. That is the confidence that
Cam needed to become a role player on this team.
And maybe you see more of him in spacing the
floor and like you said, less Brandon Garrison and maybe
more Mo Diabat at the five if you want to
go small. A very different first thirty minutes contared to

(06:57):
the last ten. I mean, I thought the game was
over and then they went on that furious comeback, So
I mean credit.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
To them for battling. They never quit. But at the
same time.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
It was all about Louisville last night and defense in
the shot selection have got to be better from Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, and I know it's early in the year, but
the inconsistency is driving me crazy because you watched one
game and the defense is bad and the offense looks good.
Then you watch the next game the offense doesn't look
that bad, but then the you know, it's like it's
it's one thing after another, and when you go from
game to game, you think, Okay, well they've got the
defense thing figured out. In one game the offense looks

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then the next game. It's the defense that looks bad
and the offense looks better.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
So it's like listening to KSR. Ryan Lemon's doing this
one day and doing something else.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Inconsistency.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's just it's you gotta be more consistent. But Kentucky
played much harder in the second half. That was something
Tom and Jack were talking about a little bit. You know,
played with effort the entire time, but they called it
dumb effort at times. Maybe that was Pope that said
that dumb effort in the postgame show. You know, this
game is so early on. Man, it was such a
unique situation. But now Kentucky knows what they need to

(08:06):
work on, and that was something that they were working
before this game, and that's defense, right Mark Pope has
got to get defense figured out. It seems like his
offense will revert back to the mean his his days
at his former schools where they put up video game
like numbers. We even saw a really good shooting team
for Kentucky last year put up some great points, but
it was defense that they really struggled with. So they're

(08:27):
gonna have to get back in the lab and figure
things out. But this is why you got this roster right.
This is why you paid a lot of money for
Mo Diabate to play better defense and get this team
defensively better. That's why you paid a lot of money
to Denzel Aberdeen, who pretty much showed that he earned
that money last night. Right, experienced guy that played well.
Jalen Low had a chance to make it a two

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point game, missed the front end of that one to
one Shannon, and then only scored, like I said earlier,
four points in the final four minutes.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Lovoll was trying to give Kentucky the game at the end.
They missed what was it, six or even straight free
throws at the end. And here's the crazy thing. Kentucky
loses the game by eight points. But by the numbers, Billy,
Kentucky out shot Lobill.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
In the game.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Did they have a better shooting They had a better
shooting percentage. Wow, they had a better shooting percentage from three,
They shot better at the line, they out rebounded.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
Loisbill.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So I mean, if you were to just look at
the stat line, look at the numbers, and I didn't
tell you the score, you would probably think that Kentucky
won that game.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
But the difference in the game.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think again, going back to just careless ball handling
fourteen turnovers, I think was really the difference in this game.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
And this was a talking point of the postgame show.
There were people saying, and maybe even Matt, that there
was no great player on this team. While Otago Away
was the preseason SEC Player of the Year, he was,
he was phased out at times and did not take
over the game, did not look like himself. Maybe NBA
scouts have gotten to him a little bit, But you know,
it's tough. I mean, when you're in the transfer portal,

(09:57):
it's they're not just readily available, so you've got a
fin them in other means. But do you agree with
that sentiment there's no great player on this Kentucky team show?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Not yet? Not yet.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I mean, I think that you got a ton of
talent on this team, and I don't know that we
have to have necessarily a great player. We just need
to have everybody gelling at the same time. I don't
think you have to have a great play I don't
think you have to have a guy that's going to
go out and get your thirty points every night or
twenty five. But you have to have consistency throughout the lineup,
and I think that's what they're struggling with right now.

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And again, it's so early in the year, and I
know we're going to overreact because it is the Kentucky
Lobill game. I think playing it early and I'm not
making excuses, but I think that you know, these are
things that will work themselves out as we go throughout
the season. It just sucks that we lost a lovel Yeah,
and it doesn't matter when you play the game. But
I think that you know, these these inconsistencies that are

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frustrating right now, I think will eventually work themselves out.
So we've talked about it though, picking before this season started.
How many pre sees like non conference games will this
team lose?

Speaker 5 (11:01):
I think I had was it two? How many? Did
you have?

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Two?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Or three?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
And I don't think either one of us had the
level game. No, So now that you've dropped that game,
does that change your I mean, again, it's one game,
But do we do we change our overall projection on
wins for this team?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Not yet, not yet. I mean it's a tough environment,
rivalry game. You throw the records out the windows, Shannon.
It's it's the best part of the sport is when
teams like this get together Duke North Carolina. But no,
I'm not adjusting win totals yet. I'm not hitting the
panic button yet. People seem to think that Pope has
an issue, lineup issues, and you know this, that and

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the other. Last night on the post game show, you know,
I think that's a long season. This is a very
early game.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
But I think there is a little bit more pressure
on the Michigan State game next Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I do, I do agree with that, because then you
drop that game, then you're really going to start saying, Okay,
well what do we have here? You know, we thought
we had a Final four team and and you drop
the loble game, which again I mean it's not crazy
level is a great team. Give them credit, by the way,
they are a great team. Pat Kelsey has put together
that roster. He's got a lot of great shooters on

(12:10):
that team. They're athletic. Like you said, the one kid
mchel no, Kyle Brown, I think I agree with you.
I think he's going to be an NBA player one day.
And by the way, speaking of patkels, he is so dorky.
Did you see what he did in the post game?
He dislocated his finger celebrating. He got it caught in
like a curtain or something, celebrating and came to the

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postgame press conference with his finger in a splint. He
looked like the wrestler mankind Mick Foley who did the
mandible claw. He would have like his middle finger and
his ring finger taped together. That's the way pack else
he looked, and he went to the post game for
he is such a dork.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
But you know what, Loble fans, you could take your
victory lap.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
The thing is, though, Billy in seventeen days, got a
football game, and that's gonna and that's gonna determine, and
that's going to determine whether or not Lobo fans could
take their victory lap for two weeks or an entire
year when we play it in seventeen days after a game.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I mean, you got people's jobs on the line and
bragging rights in both sports if Louisville Ward will win.
So I'm feeling for the Kentucky fans at the water
cooler this morning. You know, we'll we'll trudge through this together.
But I'm not hitting the panic button yet, Shannon. This
team is really talented and despite the free throw and
turnover discrepancies, I you know, that is the team that's

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gonna get Jadan Quaints later this year, right, I mean
he's gonna bring a lot. But guys like Brandon Garrison,
otega Oway, I mean there are guys that returning guys
on these on this Pope roster that are gonna.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Have to step up.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
All right, we want to hear from you. Eight top
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ksrppre Show. We'll be right back, all right, Welcome back.
It is the KSR pre Show, Shannon the Dude. I'm
hearing Louisville in the studio. Billy is back at his
house in Lexington. But Billy and I can see each other.

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We're on a the Microsoft Teams call and I'm looking
right now at Billy and his new cat.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
What's the name of the cat?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I call him Taco.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
The cat is named Taco. All right, now, how has
life been with Taco the last couple.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Of days, It's just been chaos. So we got the cat.
It's three months old. It's like, you know, litter trained
and you know, got all its shots and fixings and
all that. So it's not like I have a kitten
that we're just like raising here. But my dog is just.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Not adjusting well.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
So if anybody's got any tips on how to bring
dogs and cats together, we need them because you know,
my dog is just going after that cat like it's
its primal instinct, right.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
We need like a family intervention with you and the cat.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Need Caesar Caesar is that his name, Caesar Milan that
does the dog dog whispering stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
He's got any tips from me?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Isn't there like a reality show called like uh My
Cat from Hell? And it's like people's cats that are
just like psychotic.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
I don't trust cats, man. I'm more of a dog person.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I feel like dogs will, you know, come up to
you and love you forever unconditionally. Cats only come up
to you when they want you to like scratch their back,
or when they want food or like you know, they'll
rub up against your leg.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
They're not doing that because they love you.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
They're doing it because you're like scratching their back and
it's doing them a favorite. Cats are are like they're selfish.
They're selfish animals. They really are well though.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And this is since it's the dog that's the problem,
not the cat. The cat just just all lovey dovey.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Hold on the man.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now you're blaming the dog. The dog has been there
in that house for how long? Many years?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Right?

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Eight?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Nine years?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That cat is treading on the dog's territory and the
dog doesn't like it.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
No, no, she doesn't. So I just have no idea
what to do.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So what just like the cat does roams for the
cat is cute, I'll give it that, But.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
I feel like doctor Evil a little bit. It's not
like a bald cat. But I do have it in
my lap, and you know, I'm just gonna hold it.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
You have to let it go.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Do you have to like hold and caress the cat
the entire time so the dog won't get to it?

Speaker 7 (16:01):
No?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
No, But we are like the cats dominating the upstairs.
The dog gets the downstairs. We got like a little
you got them separated baby fence.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, all right, because I don't want like you know,
a cat and dog fight to break out live on
the radio.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Would be very I do that to you. Come on,
you know, things don't happen.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
We all know during COVID when Ryan was broadcasting from home,
we would hear his dogs just randomly barking throughout the
like on the show on the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
The more and more I know Ryan, I relate to
his neighbors.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, eight, five, nine, twenty two eighty seven. Well, we'll
get to the phones in just a minute. A couple
of comments on Twitter, one person says we have to
play cam at the three four and yellowch at the
four to be able to spread the floor out. Can't
be playing old school cal basketball with Pope. Now, I
don't think we have to worry about any kind of

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like old school basketball with with Mark Pope.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm not I'm not going to go that far with it.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yet, but I think some adjustments do need to be
made on the rotations and and the amount of minutes
that you play certain players together.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Sure, and you know, you hope that's what those exhibition
games were for, to kind of tinker with your lineup.
But you know you don't have Trent Noah. That's another
factor that I think is gonna play in spacing the floor.
I think you hit on a key, it's gonna be
tough to play Modeabata and Brian Garrison at the same time.
You know, Garrison was really disappointing. I mean, I was
hoping he'd get a tech just to bring a little

(17:20):
fire to the game when they were down twenty. I
was hoping Mark Pope might do something the old cow
to try to get the guys fired up at one point.
But lineups is gonna be something under a microscope for
the rest of the year, I think, don't you. I mean,
I mean, that's fair at any school, but especially this one.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Where you've got this much depth. Mark Pope's gonna have
to make it work.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Now.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Adjustments led to them coming back in the game, but
you know, I'd love to see that happen in the
beginning too.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Another thing that people I think are gonna focus on
every time Kentucky loses is the fact that they spent
twenty two million dollars building this roster through nil and
every time I think this is gonna be like our
pony up for basketball, because it's like that rubs is
the wrong way, and you know when Mitch Barnhart was
talking about how they were going to allocate the money
between basketball and football. We were talking about and he said, well,

(18:08):
I really don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
I don't really want to make that public.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Maybe it's for good reason, because now if we know
it's going to be hung over our heads, Well, you're
spending this mount amount on basketball, you shouldn't be losing
the Loisbell. You know, regardless of how much money you spend,
you're going to you're going to lose games.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
You're gonna drop games.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Now, if this team is, you know, getting twenty two
million dollars and they lose in the first round, that's
a different conversation. But you know, one loss in the
regular season early in the year, I'm not going to
worry about that.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're not hitting the panic button yet. No, no, not
at all. No, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
But again I think that you know, if you are,
you're you're just a typical fan who overreacts to to everything.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's man, I mean Kentucky fandom. These last few weeks
with Kentucky football.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Going on a two to zero little revival, Stoop saving
his job and then Mark Popelu's in this big game,
so hopefully they can bounce back.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Is it Eastern Illinois Friday?

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
And then and then you know, we'll play michign Stay
next Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
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There you go, you got it down.

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In the year that total fills high.

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(20:08):
of the listeners. See what you got, see what your
thoughts are after last night's loss. Let's start with blue Grass, Hey, Bluegrass,
what's up?

Speaker 8 (20:15):
Let's go on Vellas.

Speaker 7 (20:16):
I'll tell you what though. I'm not hitting the panic
button just quite yet, but I would like to think
even though ite Tope is sorry a little horse, I
guess I was screaming a little too much.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I got so, I got, I got the jokes for
eight eight year old yesterday.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
I got that out of there.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Ah got you, got you, got you. It seems that
Tope's reactionary, like counterpuncture. I want to see him go
out there and make teams adjust to him. And to
your point with the Garrison and dia Bote, let's just
remember Alabama was a tough match. When they put mo
at the five, Let's run Mow at the five a

(20:57):
little bit. Let's let teams have to react to us.
I think that's a quick fix right there. I'm not
saying the whole game. I'm just saying because our bigs
don't that they're not down low and they're not defensively
rebounding anyway. So like, I don't see why he can't
play the five, I really don't. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Well, I'm just convinced when you play a team like
Louisville and again, I think we're going to see a
couple of those teams of the SEC, Alabama being one
of them, you need to play one big and get
four shooters out on the floor.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think that's the way you beat those teams. The
three game a game.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Did you notice how many times we get stripped driving
in the lane last night because they're not The lane
was wide open last year because we had shooters everywhere,
and this year, everybody's cheating in even a step, you know,
makes a difference. And that's what it is. And an
O way I think Fellas just remember he was at
the NBA Combine and you know, and he was sharp

(21:54):
last year, Like you know he and he's been sitting
over there for a long time, so let's let's oh
way B O way. But he's just not as sharp
as he was because he was going against NBA guys
all summer long. So we got the best O ways.
That's not the best O way right now. And you
know it's not because the dog in him. You know,
he's not there right now and that's what makes him great.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Appreciate the call man, thank you very much. You know
I mentioned four shooters always got to be on the court,
but he hasn't been a shooter. I mean he his shot,
his shot has not been great. And I know that
he's coming back, you know, trying to work on that,
improve that so that he can get to the league.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
But that's that's got to be fixed.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
He's also now the guy right instead of just being r.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Ks R appreciow eight five nine twenty two eighty seven
at Shannon the dude at Believe are a sports one
person rites and says, totally agree with your take on cats.
If you want a pet that will love you and
conditionally get a dog. If you want a pet that
will cause complete chaos and only loves you when it
benefits them get a cat. I don't know that I
said that in those exact words, but I kind of
agree with that.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, I've seen videos of cats just pushing stuff over
the edge, just.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Cuts, like they're a little menaces, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, like they they do cause chaos, a lot of
tough Now, have you gotten the cat nip yet?

Speaker 5 (23:12):
To see?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
If we got catnip toys, they'll nip in them. I guess,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
You got the scratching post, you got the whole house.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
I mean I got two of those sculptures built here
in the house, Shannon, So, I mean it's got the
litter box.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, we got toys.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah, I got a whole cat jungle gym going on
over there.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I know, it's it is crazy.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
We just picked the worst month of the year to
be doing this, when it's Crossoverseason and I pretty much
live at the studio right now.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, well, you know what, that's her responsibility. And cats
are independent, right, isn't that the thing about correct?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah, they don't need people.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Really.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, we got like.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
A water thing that like self dispenses and stuff. So
really it's just keeping these two animals apart is the
hard part right.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Now, that was a tough road environment last night. I
mean that was, you know, as much crap as we've
given Louisbol fans about not showing up to their own
team and last year Pat Kelsey having to go out
and hand out flyers and personal invites to fans to
get them to show up at the game. Last night
was a really good environment, and I think, you know,
that's going to serve Kentucky well moving forward, because when
you're on the road in the SEC, you're going to

(24:14):
run into road environments that are tough every game. I mean,
maybe not to the extent of last night, but you're
gonna have some, you know, teams that can pack it
in and be really loud. The good thing is a
lot of these guys on the team, coming from the
transfer portal, have already been in that situation, you know,
Modea Bate coming from Alabama, Aberdeen from Florida, Jalen Low

(24:34):
from Pittsburgh. They've played in all these road environments before.
But I think for some of the younger guys, this
early game on the road is going to serve them
well moving forward.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Sure, and we also had two KSR guys at the event,
Mario went and interviewed the one UK fan that was
in the Louisville suit.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Ali.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I felt bad for that kid and the other Lobo
fans were just throwing up the double barrels, the double
birds all.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
The entire time.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yeah, I'm like, God, poor kid.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
But you know that he was.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I mean, he was in the hornets nest, he was
in the you know, the students section, So you got
to expect that. And then our guy Matt left before halftime.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Now what is that with that? Come on?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Man left before halftime, before half. They didn't get to
see the big comeback.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
I guess he followed along on the radio or on TV.
But yeah, I mean he talked about the buzz in
that building before the game started.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
But we know how Matt's gonna do it. I'll leave
and watch the watching it on a hotel TV before
the actual game.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
All right, So we got the phone lines loaded and
after all KSR pre show is you know, it's a
listen it's a caller friendly show. So let's go to
the calls. Let's go to the phones and talk to
Josh up next. Hey, Josh, what's up?

Speaker 9 (25:38):
Good morning?

Speaker 10 (25:39):
Thank you for taking a call. Well, I ain't too worried.
If we played this game five times, I'd say Kentucky
win three times. And if we were healthy.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, I mean that's the other thing too. We don't
have a completely healthy roster. But you know, that's that's
that's part of the game though. I mean, that's going
to be part of it. I mean, I'm sure that
that's not going to be the last. Hopefully it's the
major injury, but I'm sure we're gonna have things along
the way, you know, like Trent Noah turning his ankle.
That's just part of the game. But I mean other
teams are gonna have that situation too.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
I mean, we could have gave up and they didn't.
I mean that we beat them by eight last year.
They beat us by eight this year. Yeah, I mean,
and if we were up last year, if you remember,
we were up what twenty what was it twenty or seventeen?
We were up and then they made a run on us.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, our reaction this morning would have been a lot
different if Kentucky had just gotten blown out. You know,
like we say, Okay, they lost the game by eight points.
It is what it is. Thanks for the college, Josh.
Think if they get blown out by twenty or twenty
five points last night. Maybe I'm starting to panic a
little bit. But and by the way, how about Vegas.
We talked about that point spread. What did they know
going from four and a half to six and a

(26:46):
half in just a couple of hours. And that doesn't happen.
That just does not happen unless there's somebody injured. And
I kept waiting for like some sort of injury news
to come out, and it didn't. Turns out though Vegas
is right on and a half point spread, they lose
by eight.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Well, they were a lot of rumors about otaga Oway
and if he was going to play, well he played,
it was just I guess Vegas knew that his shot
was broken at this point.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
I mean, look, I mean Vegas is new. They watched
the shoot rounds this week.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Yes, I mean I hope the NBA scouts didn't get
in this guy's head. He just doesn't look like himself.
And if Kentucky's going to reach their ceiling this year,
not only does Jade and Quainting seem to come and
be that top five pick he's expected to be, but
otakeo Oway has got to be better.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Than that, Let's go to Todd. Hey, Todd, what's up Tod?

Speaker 8 (27:30):
Hey for the shows? Hey, are y'all going to be
in studio the week of Thanksgiving? At the first week?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Are we going to be in the studio? I will be, well,
I'll be in Louisville.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
Reason Yeah, Uh, I leave and come forward, and I'm
coming up for the game the Friday before Thanksgiving. I'm
taking my mom, she lives in Bridge for eighty six
birthday to the ball games. He's a big Cats fan,
and I just i'd like to meet you all if
you all are up in the studios.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
What I was asking, Well, I'll be in Louisville, as
I always am in the studio. The rest of the guys,
I don't know. We'd really just find out week to
week where we're going to be on a particular day.
So either we're going to be in the studio or
the guys will be out at kas Bar.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
You can always go there. That's probably the best way.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
To catch Yeah, that's why it's King of kas Bar
kas Bar.

Speaker 8 (28:17):
I got two quick questions. Uh, one basketball? Do you
think when we was catching up last night and cut
the lead? I mean he pope did that last year.
Leave the line up in there that's doing the best.
It don't have to be the starting lineup, but lead
the line up in there. That's ride that horse to
it quits. What I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, if it's broke, don't If it's not broken, don't
fix it.

Speaker 9 (28:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
What was the other thing you had? Uh?

Speaker 8 (28:43):
Okay, that's a football question. I know the offense has
opened up here recently. And do you think after if
Stoop can win us a few more games if he
stays another year, well he go back to old school
three down the middle and a short screen pass. Well
he's even though we got cut, Well he go back
to tie the hands again. As the offensive coordinators, I.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Would like to hope not. And that's the call. Tier.
Good to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And again, chos Bar and Grill, just catch us out
there if you can the day before Thanksgiving if we're.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Not on remote.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't come in the studio anyway.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, you can't come in the studio, but you can
catch as a ks bar if we're there.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
So that's the best place to do.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
That, you know, I Stoops comes back for another year, Billy,
I don't know. I mean the question First of all,
is Bush Hampden back next year. I think it depends
on how these last three games play out. If we
see more offense like we saw against Florida, then absolutely.
If we see more offense like we saw earlier in
the year, then maybe not. I don't know, but I'd

(29:40):
like to think that Stoops would not, you know, tie
down our offensive coordinator and do little dink and dunk passes.
But I don't know, man, and we know stoops track
record in the past, that's sort of been the offense
just ground and pound and sort of try to hammer
these games out with the run game.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, and that would just be the opposite of all
the progress I feel like Stoops is made when it
comes to admitting maybe some faults, admitting that he had
did have a little bit of a hand into some
of the play calling, or at least you know what
goes into that.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I don't know, Shannon. I think you're right though.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
These last few games are going to be important for
Bush Hampden, not only for Mark Stoops, but for Hamden
and what this fan base thinks about him, fair or foul.
Over a year and a half of him. You know,
we're just now seeing the offensive play calling get a
little bit better, so you know, and what have you
done for me lately? And if he finishes strong, then yeah,
they'll be fine with keeping it here.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
But if what looks like happened on Saturday against Florida
really happened, where they said, you know what, let's just
throw it all out there and see what happens.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
We're back against the wall. We need this game.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Let's just throw it out Okay, Well, I would say
I would suggest doing that every game. I don't care
if it's Tennessee Tech or Vanderbilt or loisvill. If if
you can open up your offense that much and score
thirty eight points against Florida, and I know Florida's not
the same Florida as they've been in the past, but
it's still an SEC team. It's still impressive that they
scored that many points and beat Florida as bad as
they did. Do it again, I mean, do it again

(31:05):
next week, Do it against Vanderbilt, do it against losvoll
See what happens again. What's the worst that could happen.
You'll lose the game. I would rather lose games like
that than lose them, you know. Thirteen to ten, sixteen
to thirteen like we did against Texas.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
And what does Cutter want? I mean, I think you've got.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
To throw any quarterback he wants to throw the ball.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Well, I mean, yeah, that's somebody that you want to
make happy and keep over the off season. So I
mean his thoughts on the offensive coordinator is important as well.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, I think you take his opinion.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I don't know that you base your decision entirely off
of what he thinks, but I think you take it
into consideration.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I agree, I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, let's go to Lance.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Hey, Lance, Hey, guys, are you there?

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Man? Shoot, oh I was sorry. Sorry. First off, on
the Matt leaving a halftime, I mean, people need to
realize athletes are meant to be entertaining. That's their primary purpose.
And uh, when they're not entertaining, I have season tickets.
I'll just leave the game. And I turned it off
fifty minutes ago because you could tell early on that

(32:07):
they weren't going to do it. But the reason we lost,
there's two reasons. Number One, Louisville's out there playing with
their top twelve draft pick. Kentucky's top three draft pick
is sitting on the bench, and he was originally supposed
to come back mid December, and magically Kelsey had the
game moved to early November. Secondly, it's because we played

(32:29):
the third game of the season at Louisville. If Louisville
cannot find a way to become relevant enough to college
basketball to warrant a time slot in December, then they
are not relevant enough to be on the court with
Kentucky and we just don't play it in November anymore.
I don't care enough about on this the no win
scenario for us.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't think we will in the future play this
game this early. I think this is just a one
time thing. And Lance, thanks for the call, appreciate it.
Sorry had to cut you off. We got calls to
get to.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Also.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
As far as the entertainment part of the thing, I
thought it was an entertaining game, Billy.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I thought you know that.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
The pace was fun to watch, both teams just running
up and down the floor, a lot of three point
shots going up. I thought it was an entertaining game
start to finish.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Oh, it's also a forty minute game, so there were
plenty more chances for Kentucky, which they took advantage of
to make it a four point game.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I get it. If you're not entertained, then then leave.
But you've already paid the money for the tickets. Yeah,
or you're the credential you've already gotten.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
So, I mean, I think the part about being a
fan is sticking through some of the tough times too,
not just quitting on your team when it's not suiting
your style of play.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
But and if you weren't there for the comeback, I
mean that that had to be satisfying.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
As the best moments as a fan is he's not
come back, especially on the road. And unfortunately it didn't
finish the way Kentucky wanted.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, they were a shot or two away from from
coming back and tying that game.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, how entertained would he have been not watching the
game because he turned it off? Right, Let's get one
more in before we get to the break. Let's go
to Scotty Scott. Hey, Scott, good morning.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
The award for the day is overreaction Kentucky beach perdue
for ell the sixty eight guys. He's nearly ready to
cramp title. We lose the top twenty team on our
home floor. It's really having a hot shooting maybe one
of the better shooting games and could be of the season,
and all of a sudden, the nerd is Kituky has
big problems and Louisville's penciled in for the final four.

(34:20):
You know, a few weeks from now, Louisville have a
coach shooting to night and Kentucky will play a good
team and run them off the floor. And to be
a different narrative, the bottom line is that the teams
that's playing the most consistent ball at the end of
year will be the one to plays for all the marbles.
We just all react. We just need to calm down
and let.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
It play out.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, set Scott, I appreciate it. We'll make that the
Whiskey Thief call. The day we'll buy Whiskey Thief is
still in company. Still it tastes to uncut, unfiltered whiskey
straight from the barrel at Whiskey Thief. Yeah, I think
he's right. Big picture, I don't think I'm changing anything.
I just think that these inconsistencies on offense and defense
have to work themselves out. You have to have it,

(34:58):
you know, balanced, where you offense and your defense is
clicking at the same time, and I really don't think
we've seen that a whole lot, except for maybe, you know,
against Nichols.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
And you know, I think the Kentucky's got to become
the aggressor. This is something that I think they struggled
with last year a little bit. While Louisville shot some
free throws late, that's still the difference was ufl was
twenty one to thirty one, Kentucky was twelve of sixteen.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
They were just simply.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Making the refs make those kind of calls by being
the more aggressive team. And you know, I've got a
lot of confidence in the guys that did struggle tonight
to play better in the future, whether it be Jalen
Low late in this game or Otega away. Scott's right,
I mean, let's not overreact too much here.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
What of your phone calls?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
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Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'll get to as many of you as I can,
but we're running out of time, so keep it short.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Let's go to Mic. You're up next, my Mike.

Speaker 11 (37:00):
Hey, guys, I think you're on something with the lineup thing,
and I think that's part of the problem, wrong, the
way he has no space to operate. But at some point,
I think you just got to move away from Garrison.
I mean it's been a common thing for the last
two years, you know, the second end. It was horrible
last year and the started. I'm not trying to harp
on the kid, but you know, sometimes you just can't

(37:22):
do it. I had a couch, plus Tim has a
great warm up shooting you ever saying it just like.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, thanks for the call, Mike, And I'm not
ready to give all my brain and Garrison, I mean
this early in the season by any means. So I'm
not saying that you know he can't play them. I
just think there's a certain line up where you can
play them, and there's other guys that you cannot play
with him.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Sure, but there were times he needed to be the aggressor,
like we talked about, he needed to go in there
and get the ball and hold it away from Louisville.
He was not that, I guess though, I guess you know.
The one moment was that Case and Pryor barely played
in the game, only had one basket. After all the
talking he did kind of like the would you ever
get at a on a school project?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Didn't do anything, Shannon?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Did I?

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Did I ever get an? Yeah? Probably? So, like that
was the guy I was like, oh, yeah, just put
that over there.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, that part of the group.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I was the guy that was just, you know, basically
telling everybody else what to do, but wasn't doing anything myself.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
What did you get when you got a group project
with me at school? Yeah, let's go to Corey. Hey, Corey.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (38:18):
He was telling them guys.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
So I was sitting five rows from the floor right beside.
When I mean right beside, I mean I was in
the aisle next to the student section. Those people are
the most rude, obnoxious people I've ever been around in
my life, and I mean that in the most disrespectful
way possible. So I was there when they bullied the
kid out of the students section right after Mario talked

(38:40):
to him. The kid wasn't doing anything, he was just
sitting there.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
And my my seventy year old dad, it was his
first game in like fifteen years, and he was just
standing there wearing blue had the audacity to do that,
and they the whole game we spent being cussed at,
flipped off, all this just just for standing there. So
I never thought I'd be saying that on the day
after the game. But if anybody from Kentucky football player, coach,

(39:05):
at men staff, we need redicption from you guys, Thank gus.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Thanks for the call, Corey. Yeah, that's pressure.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, pressure on the football team now there.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Is there is for sure, as if there wasn't already enough.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
But yeah, going on the road, man, some of these
fans just can be just over the top of noxious.
I mean, even going back to the Kentucky Tennessee game
in the in the tournament, some of those Tennis Sea
fans up top we heard reports from you know, even
Matt's mom was talking about how just I don't know
if they were drunk or just being knoxious Tennessee fans,

(39:37):
but some of them. Man, It's it's it's tough to
go on the road and and play in some of
these other team stadiums because the fans are just so
over the top.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
It's like, Yeah, it's like when you're in your car
and you're separated by a windshield. People feel like they
can scream and say whatever they want to somebody, and
they people feel like that at home games.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Robbie is up next, Hey, Robbie.

Speaker 9 (39:57):
Oh yeah, you know, Louisville they're not gonna They're not
gonna play good against us again. They're not gonna play
again good against anybody the rest of the year. I mean,
this is their super Bowl game, and uh, and for us,
we got a long ways to go, with a lot
of pieces to the puzzle to put together, and it's
just and it's gonna happen. I can't wait. I hope

(40:20):
we get to play Louisville again in the NCAA Tournament,
because I'd say they don't want to see us again.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Yep, thanks for the call, Robbie. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And you know, for Louisville, it's been a while, so
of course they're gonna celebrate that win over Kentucky it's
been a while and and few and far between over
the years beating Kentucky as far as you know what
we saw last night again, I think, pump the brakes.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
We're gonna be all right. It's gonna take a little time.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
And you know, we've seen those with Caliperi teams over
the years too, where he would always say, at least
Pope's not giving us the Calipari answer, like we barely
even practice. You know, we haven't even ran any plays yet.
At least we're not hearing that that old tired excuse.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Only thing matters as march. That's right, Maybe there is
some truth in that.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Yep, real quick, John, short, go ahead?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
You got about oh John, Hey John.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
The young man is not a good game.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
But we'll bout Psach beat him in the Selvy Tournament,
and we're going to win tonight women's fast well going
by forty five biggins tonight and win by forty big
as in soccer.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
All right, there you go, Joe, Central Florid.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yep, all right, appreciate the call, Thank you, John. Would
you want to see Lobell again in the NC DOUAA tournament.
I say, bring it on, come on, We play this
game again in March.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
I'm not scared of Lobell.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I think, you know, again playing it early in the year,
both teams trying to figure out their offense and try
to figure out their defense and the rotations and everything.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
I would love to see him again.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Well, look, the comeback was encouraging, right, I mean, there's
there's no doubt about it. If this was on a
neutral court, maybe Kentucky does have that edge. And maybe
with the Jada and Quaintons in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 5 (42:00):
I'm shitting the dude.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
If this has been the KSR pre show, Kentucky Sports
Radio is up next.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
To see you