December 9, 2025 • 41 mins
Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk all the latest news, Coach Stein's new contract, and Kentucky Basketball vs NC Central.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KASR pre Show.
Today is Tuesday, December ninth. I am Billy Rutledge along
with Shannon the Dude. You give us a call on
the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line. It's eight five nine
two eight oh two two eight seven, Texas at five
oh two two six five six six five six, and
the KASR pre Show is brought to you by Italics
(00:24):
Fine Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky at the City Center.
Also give us a call be our Whiskey Thief Call
of the Day. I'm here in Lexington. Shannon the Dude,
my fellow procrastinator, is in Louisville. We were just talking
about how we're not Christmas shopping yet right before the
show started. What's up, dude, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I like to wait till the last minute. You don't
like the thrill of it. You get it if you
get it done too easy. It's just you know, too early,
it's too easy, and it's already done that you don't
have to think about it. I like waiting until the
very last minute, then go out and get it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But then you have to go out into the traffic
amongst everybody during that time. You don't have a problem
getting out there with everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, no, I mean it's like that anyway right now.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you go out there, you know, on the weekend
anytime in December, it's going to be like that, whether
it's the last weekend or the first weekend. And the
other thing is like the Christmas tree just now got up.
There's no way and we're sixteen days away from Christmas.
I'm not taking that Christmas tree down the day after
things or the day after Christmas. So I'm gonna keep
it up, maybe till March. She'll be my March Madness Tree.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
March Madness Tree, right, okay, which.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't know if Kentucky will be a part of
that or not. Probably not the way they're playing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh well, man, you're right about that. That's a depressing realization.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Here, get down in December, take it down with the
Kentucky basketball season.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And how about that, Well, some people have it up
year round. I would call you crazy, some would call
you festive.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I would call you lazy.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Lazy's probably another word for it. Yeah, I don't have
the Christmas tree up yet, so I guess we are
slacking a Lott.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Are you waiting on? Dude? Are you gonna wait for
Christmas Eve to put up the Christmas tree?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Sixteen days before Christmas? You don't have the tree up,
you might as well as now you put it up.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'm just not in the spirit yet, are you. I
know you're watching a little White Christmas? But oh yeah,
are you singing carols and songs yet?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Dude? No, one not going around caroling.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But that was a point of contention yesterday with a
lot of our listeners, Billy, I don't know if you
heard it on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The KSR show.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
A lot of listeners were very upset with Ryan and
I because we admit it that we have never seen
The Godfather and instead we like White Christmas, which is
complete opposite of a Mafia movie.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I was supposed to go home and watch The Godfather instead,
did you I pivoted. I doubled down and went back
home and watched White Christmas last night.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh you watched it again.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's still good. Geez, such a good movie.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You can't tell him anything. He'll just go and rewatch
the movie he already watched.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I'll get to it. I'll get to it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I understand, though. I mean, sometimes you watch a movie
you want to relax, you want to watch something a
little bit more lighthearted, or maybe something you've watched before
The Godfather. You've got to sit down, You've got to
commit a lot of effort and energy.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's right around Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't want to see people shooting other people up,
which I assume happens in The Godfather.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know, I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But you like you're aware of it though, like this,
Oh yeah, I'm aware it exists. I'm going to make
him an offer he can't refuse things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, I know those things. I know it exists. There's
a lot of things in the world I know exists,
but I just don't care to find out any more
about them.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I think you would be surprised by how little
kids today watch these older movies that we define as
cult classics. Like you ever try to throw in an
old movie reference to a kid to a class today,
or I have a younger brother and sister, and there
the references just go right on past them.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Shannon. Yeah, if I said to you, you'll shoot your
eye out. Oh yeah, you know what that's wrong?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, okay the rifle. Come on, we need the right
classic the classic Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What what movie?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie, come on.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, what what what movie?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You know what movie?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You don't know?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The day about Christmas Story?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Christmas Story, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, that's
that's really the one you watch every year with the
lamp and the well.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They run at twenty four hours straight on like TBS
and TNT, so if you turn it on at any point,
it's going, it's going.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
There's a good chance you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, because it's they run it non stop on a loop.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Uh but yeah, a couple of procrastinators here, Yeah, just
run a little just wait until the week of Christmas
to get our Christmas gifts.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's right, that's right, that's what we do here. Eight
five nine two eight h two two eight seven. If
you'd like to join the show today, it is a
game day edition of the KSR pre Show. Shannon thirty
eight and a half point favorites. Kentucky takes on NC Central.
Let's get up and let's get ready to do it.
Have another game.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So tell me about NC Central. They are ranked what
three hundred and twenty seventh and three.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Fifty three fifty.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I was doing three sixty five.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was giving them way too much credit. They're not
three hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
They're not even in the three hundred and twenty five
top Yeah, twenty five of college basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Good grief.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Three?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why are we playing these teams? Because here's what's going
to happen. You know, they're gonna come out. They're gonna
win by forty tonight, just like they have every game
that they played. And I feel like we have played
like an unreasonable amount of teams ranked three hundredth or
worse this year. I feel like every team that we
played has been either three hundred or worse or Top
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, that was required to get into the BBN United
Invitational presented by Kentucky Tories.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well you gotta be ranked worse than three hundredth, you'd think, well,
no teams ranked better than three hundredth.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, I mean there's something to like building momentum and
getting these guys's confidence back a little bit tonight. But
I just I don't know how much you can learn
from playing a team like that. Shannon. It's almost like
you're going up against your practice guys. But I mean,
I say that, and this team could give Kentucky a
lot of fight tonight, especially since they're not playing well
and they're not playing together. But I you know, I'm
gonna look past that for just a second and think
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that Shannon, this will be a night that you know,
maybe in ESPN Plus game, I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is it on ESPN Plus? It shouldn't be it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I believe I'm getting it.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I believe it's on that network. I could be wrong, though,
look that up maybe while we're doing that. But yeah,
as far as like, what, what do you expect to
see tonight or what could you see that's going to
make you feel any better about this team so far,
I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, I think they could come out and win
by sixty tonight, and.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't know that I'm gonna feel any better about
the team because we've seen what they've done against real
competition this year, and that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They just throwing a big egg out there every time
they played in somebody that matters.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So until they beat somebody in the top twenty five,
I can't get too excited about this team. I mean,
maybe they beat Indiana on Saturday and we get a
little bit more optimistic about the team, But as of
right now, I don't think there's anything they can do
tonight that's going to make me more optimistic about them.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It is on SEC network, so it will be a
little easier to watch, but you should listen to Tom Leach
and Jack Gibbons anyway on the radio call if you
don't do that already, Chennon. A lot was a made
yesterday on KSR about the boos that Kentucky players heard
versus Gonzaga the other day. Do you think it's obceptible
acceptable to boo Kentucky players in today's age.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I do, and I will agree with some people who
are like, you know, you shouldn't be They say, like,
you don't boo college kids. Well, now these college kids
are making millions of dollars, a lot of them, so
now they're not just college kids.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They're they're semi pros basically.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And I don't know that that's necessarily like the reason
to boot them, but when you got players that are
making that kind of money and putting out no effort,
that's when I think you boo them, like I wouldn't
boo them just because they're playing bad. But there was
more than just playing bad against Gonzaga. It was lack
of days ago effort. It was body language that was horrible,
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a team that looked like they did not want to
be there, and that is unacceptable. And I think, yeah,
I think it's perfectly fine to boo your own team
when they're that bad, when you're nine minutes into the
game and your best offense is two free throws, Billy,
that's elementary school type of basketball.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like, yes, they deserve to be booed. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, I'm with you, especially with the shifts in makeing
this much money as a college athlete. Now, I do
think that sentiment has changed. You know, energy and effort
are the buzzwords that we're hearing a lot of people use,
and even Denzel Aberdeen and the guys spoke about it
to the media yesterday. But it's even more so than that,
Like it's it's more of like the non negotiables that
coaches teach you in grade school to play basketball, right,
(08:20):
I mean, just being accountable, responsible, trustworthy, and disciplined and
having respect. I mean, these are all things that are
taught at the basics levels of basketball in sports, and
if you aren't seeing those kind of things, then yeah,
I mean I think the Boobirds come out and rightfully so,
but hoping that does not happen tonight at Rupparena. But
you know, the fans that make their trip down in
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Nashville are a different type of fan than what you
see normally at the lower level at RUP. So mentioning
Denzel Aberdeen, he spoke to the media yesterday and said,
we're definitely going to make a change as far as
our energy and effort coming into these games. They haven't
been where they're supposed to be, but we're definitely going
to make a jump from now on forward. So these
guys are even recognizing that.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's great to hear, But I would say, why are
you not already right?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I mean, if you can't get up for the Louisville game,
your biggest rival, that's an issue. I don't know, like
how you can't get up for these big games, Like
if your energy level isn't where it was supposed to
be against Gonzaga on Friday night, I would say, why,
why is that?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The coach's fault for not motivating these guys. But then
part of me goes, why.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Does the coach need to motivate you?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You know, you are a a You're a Kentucky playing
some of the best schools in college basketball that they
played so far, you know, North Carolina and Gonzaga and Louisville,
and you can't get up for these games or energy
levels not where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Why.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, there's a human element in sports, right, I mean,
I mentioned this on the postgame show. I mean, you
can talk all you want about analytics, but you know
analytics can't tell you if you have a stomach ache
or if you had something happened to you that earlier
that day. So there does need to be a balance.
Mark Pope on calling show last night I actually got
to listen to a little bit yesterday, said that his
guys are practicing too much. He thinks O tega Oway
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is in the gym so much that he's not resting, Shannon,
he's pressing so much. So there is a thought of
I want to change so badly, I want to be
so good that they don't leave the gym. Shannon, do
you think there's any credence to that.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So they're like overthinking it and over I mean, I
think that maybe Mark Pope, I think a caller brought
this up, could be over analyzing things when it comes
to analytics.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And that's ye so much of a swing from.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
What we had last year where it was or two
years ago when we had Caliperi. It was just roll
the ball out there and we'll make some adjustments in
the game and that's about it, you know, And now
it's like everything's over analyzed.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think you can overanalyze things to a point.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, analytics are good when you're looking at like
who do we want to try to get the most
shots or whatever it may be. But you're right, there
is a human element to the game and analytics aren't
going to tell you if a guy just broke up
with this girlfriend right before the game or isn't feeling
well like you said that on a particular night. But
at some point it comes down to a personality thing.
(11:07):
Either you have that fight, you have that hunger, or
you don't. And I would think that anybody who is
a D one basketball player who is good enough to
play at the University of Kentucky would not have to
be motivated to have their energy level up to want
to try to win these games, and clearly what we've
seen so far is that they're not.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
They're not into it. I don't know why, but they're not.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Pope said that the guys are growing, despite that's not
what Big Blue Nation wants to hear. I would argue
that we do want to hear that these guys are growing.
But you know, Aberdeen was another one that has felt
the weight of becoming a leader, having to step up
and take on roles that they haven't in the past.
And also when it comes to injury updates, Moo Diabata
is day to day while Jaden Quaintans is now going
through full contact work so he should be back maybe
(11:51):
probably later this month. So maybe that helps this team
a lot, Shannon. That won't help tonight as I doubt
that Jade quaints will be back here or Diabata.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They shouldn't need it tonight, but you know, looking ahead,
just still, you got Saint John's on the schedule, I
guess at Indiana on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It is because again, like we play these games, like
we play tonight, you win by forty but then what's
gonna happen when you play a top twenty five team
you get blown out again, You're gonna get embarrassed by Indiana.
That's that's a game that a lot of people don't
even wan on the schedule, but they're a top twenty
five team.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, well, your toughness is being tested at this point,
like how will you respond? This season will be defined,
I think probably in the coming weeks or so, because
if they can go one of two ways, you could
show some fight tonight and against Indiana and maybe salvage
something for this year, or he could go the opposite
way quickly and we could lose these guys even more.
But we'll be here to talk about it at eight
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five nine two eight h two two eight seven. If
you want to call and join the show. We'll talk
a few things today, including some details coming out about
Mark Stoops's buy out and the restructuring he did. There
Will Stein getting a new contract. You know, Shannon, we
inch closer to Christmas and uh, you know this week
is the busiest week of the year for breaking up
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with your significant other.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh was that right?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, Apparently couples do a lot of reflection during the
holiday season. Maybe it's a chance to not have to
pay for Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That well that bingo ding d d d there's your
answer right there.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's why because they realize, oh, yeah, I got to
buy Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I really don't like this person anyway. Why am I really?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It is that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I guarantee you it's it. Why give me give me
a better explanation. That is, people who are in a
relationship they really don't want to be in and they
don't want to buy the other person Christmas gifts, so
they're like, you know what, let's just cut it off
right here.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yep. And then you're like, oh, your kids are gonna
need Christmas gifts this year.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm out peace out, homie.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Lead Yeah, So be careful out there, folks. It is
a busy week of the year. We need to take
a break though. Eight five nine, two eighth two two
eight seven. We'll be right back here on the KS
our pre show. Oh this will get me in the spirit, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's good stuff, man.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Like, if I'm listening to Christmas music, I want it
to be old school Christmas music. I'm talking like nineteen forties,
nineteen fifties being Crosby.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes, that's the type of Christmas music.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I like the classics. Yes, I mean I will accept
Mariah Carey. I mean this, this is her time of
the year to make a little money, Shannon, But I
am with you. I like the older stuff, chestnuts roasting
on an open fire, to like stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Uh. One person said on our text line, which is
five O two two sixty five six six five six,
tells Shannon the Dude to play Rudolph the Red Nose
Reindeer by Creed. I tagged him on it on Twitter.
Have you ever heard of Reed playing Rudolph?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, it's like an AI thing when they use oh
for the song higher forget it. But we can't do
that because we're guaranteed human guarantee, human guaranteed human. I
don't even know does that apply to like AI stuff.
That can we play that because that's kind of like
our company policy.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Now we're guaranteed human.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't think we can. That'd be like throwing the
l's up, right.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Ye think we can lean into AI music.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's on our companies like email signatures. Now, Oh that's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, they want you to change, like you know, you
send the email and just got like your your name
and like the company they want you to put Guaranteed Human.
I don't know, does anybody think that you and I
aren't human yet as many mistakes as you and I
make on this show.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, not yet. I mean I don't think we're there yet,
but maybe, like twenty years down the road, is it
going to be tell hard to tell what is and
isn't ai, especially on the radio where you're not seeing
visually some things. I mean, yeah, maybe so. So you
know that's our initiative here. We are guaranteed human, and
you're right, Shannon, by the amount of mistakes we make,
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like breaking a lamp on Friday, which is what I did.
I posted the picture of the broken lamp this morning
and Kentucky CW said we got to talk about how
Billy our Sports definitely practices his signature.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
No, yeah, it was he saying that your signature just
looks a little too good.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
For an autograph. I mean, I don't know how many
autographs have you signed in your life, Billy.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, Shannon, let me tell you, I do practice my
signature because I get asked for my autograph. Shannon, how
about that the damn bell who's asking.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You for your autograph?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Not kids but adults. Yeah. Yeah, the the grandmas that
have sympathy for me that listen to the show. I've
had a couple autographs for you. Yeah, that's not what
a freaking signature is is something that you repeat often, practic.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Don't think the point is I don't have great I
think the scene. But the c w's point is you
don't get for your autograph. You don't get asked for
your autograph that much, so it looks a little too clean.
I'm saying somebody who rarely have ever would get asked
for an autograph.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It looks too good.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So yeah, I'm not practicing in my bedroom instead of
while I'm watching The Godfather, Shannon. No, I just practice
because people want the autograph. But you acknowledge that you're talking.
I'm not doing that, But I practice because of all
these people that ask for autographs, Shannon. And you wouldn't
want my autograph if you looked at my betting record
on DraftKings though, Shannon, I mean, you would want to
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stay far away from me. And that's why sometimes you
got to take a break back. I have what you
want to win, the money you can do it on.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That I had a nice five leg parlay set up
for that Bears Packers game, and I always fall short
on that last leg. I need it four hundred and
fifty yards combined between the two quarterbacks, Billy, it got
to four to twenty thirty yards short of a five
leg parlay anyway. Turning the ball over for a secondly
got to that exactly. Hey, one touchdown can change everything,
the crowd, the momentum, the game itself.
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Speaker 1 (17:56):
Let's go to the phones here early dude, who's up first?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's good a free he freebird? What's up?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Free bird?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I tell you y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
We're good?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Man?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Shitting?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You mentioned something about uh bad the human element, like
these kids are maybe getting their girlfriends breaking up with
them or something with all with everybody not liking each
other sounds more like kids stealing each other's girlfriends and
fights breaking out the way they don't.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Like each other sounds like to me, are you suggesting?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And maybe that's what's going on with the basketball team.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Who knows, man, because when you mentioned their friends, you know,
there's so much it seems like there's so much disdain
from a few guys. Maybe they're stealing each other's girl
friend guys.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Happened to see the uh there's like a video of
Oway in that last game against Gonzaga. He was wide
open for a three and Aberdeen didn't pass them the
ball and after the whistle blew, oh wait just kind
of shot he did like a fake shot, like as
if he were shooting the shot. So yeah, I mean,
there's definitely some on the court issues going on, and
maybe off the court too, but go ahead, free.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Bird that it just makes it go on to think
before the Louisville game, I mean, Hope in that hallway
was just, man, what am I going to do with
these hopings? It's just unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
But you know, maybe something can could come up of it.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, well yeah, yeah, that's the positive side of things.
Thanks for the call, f We appreciate it. You know,
there is still time to turn this thing around. But
as I said yesterday, like what is what have you
seen that would indicate that that's going to happen unless
you just think miraculously these shots are going to go down.
That's what Aberdeen said. You know, we keep shooting, it's
going to go in eventually.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is it. I don't know. I'm not convinced to that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I'm still holding out hope. Jayden Quainton's just magically
changes this entire roster.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I mean, we thought Jayalen coming back was going to
change everything, it didn't matter at all, But.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
He's no, I wouldn't say at all. I'd say the
team is much better when Jayalen back. But in that
last game, yeah, they shut him down early. He was
coming back from that injury. I think he could change
this team a lot. But at the same time, we
are over analyzing a ton right now, right, I mean
the O Way fake shot. I think there's a clip
of guys bumping into each other after a time out
going to the bench that people have made made some
(20:19):
words of. So I don't know, Shan. We're looking for answers.
We are desperate for a win against good competition.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
My point was, like, you know, Jalen Lowe played last game.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He played fourteen minutes, scored one point, still got beat
by thirty five.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Didn't matter, Yeah, didn't matter that he played.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, but this is a roster that's built around Jalen
low Aberdeen's better off the ball, I mean, and he's
had to shift to a new position and probably part
of the reason why, well maybe one of the reason
why they haven't played so well. So I don't know's
it's tough to find out. Let's take one more call
before we take a hard break. Here Tristan is on
the line. I believe what's up, Tristan.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
What you need to do is pull up the ruddles.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Rootolf the red Nose Reindeer by I declare war.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That is the greatest arrangement of that of all time.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
I declare war Rudolf the.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Red Nose Reindeer.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
All right, it sounds like a metal version of it
or something.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I can't wait to hear it. Were you ever a
metal head rock radio? Did you ever go into that?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Never?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Never was a metal fan, like the these fans that
look like Louder than Life has sort of turned into
that the last few years where it's just like I
call it cookie monster rock.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, me won't cookie. I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I don't even like that, you know, like it's it's
not even music to me.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Like, well, you can't understand the lyrics. I mean, there
are a lot of songs like that, but that's just
I don't know, Shannon, To each their own. Some people
got to get some anger out. Maybe need to play
a little metal head, you know, after that one of.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
These games like the hardest rock, the hardest rock ever
got into is like maybe like Metallica or maybe like
Alice in Chains.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
H Uh, nothing too much harder than that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, never had any like eye paint on or
something like that. Back in the day, all black, no
little keychain on your wallet to keep it to your
belt loops, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's that's stuff that you do.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I did have Vans checkerboards back in the day, Shanny.
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You were so tough.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yes, I know when Vans are well, I was the
toughest guy back the skater boy.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And we'll see you later, boy, We'll be right back
here on the case I preach, so welcome, gay.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I can't even with this. This is awful.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I can kind of hear the word Rudolph being said
in this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Song, Like, how does anybody listen to that?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
There's an audience for everything, I guess, but like, that's terrible.
Turn it back up just a second.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, I don't even want to. Like what is that?
It sounds like.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
A long burp going on in the background.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I can't believe seven hundred and fifteen thousand people have
listen to this.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Seven hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Thousand, yeah on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wow, Well if they If if Louder than Life is
going to have Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer in metal form,
maybe it will be time to go back.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Seven hundred and fifteen thousand and Unfortunately one now, because
we just listened to.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It A five nine two eight ho two two eight seven.
If you'd like to join the show, Shannon. It was
September thirteenth, twenty twenty five, so just a few months ago.
Virginia Tech lost to Old Dominion forty five to twenty six,
and following the game, Virginia Tech fired their head coach
Brent Priy. Well, James Franklin was eventually hired as a
Virginia Tech coach, and he has now hired Brent Prye
(23:39):
to be the defensive coordinator for Virginia Tech. How weird
is that? And can you imagine a scenario where Will
Stein brought Mark Stoops back as the DC for Kentucky
football this year?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And I guess the AD was fine with that.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I guess this was Brent Priye was the defensive coordinator
for James Franklin at VAN for three years, so they
do have a history. But I just think that's a
bizarre story. Is it not to bring the head coach
back on the same staff.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It is very very bizarre. We see those though, with
head coaches coming back.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know, maybe it's maybe a little bit different, you know,
with like Petrino coming back to Lobell and then Arkansas
a couple of different times. But yeah, but to be
fired and then to be hired right back within the
matter of what just a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, I don't think that has that ever happened before.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's like you said it, people return home, But that's
like after a couple of years in between, right, Like
this is like eight weeks later you just got fired,
he returns back. How awkward of an office visit do
you have with the ad later?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Or is there like no hard feelings? I don't know,
you fired me three games into the season, like I've
got some hard feelings. Yeah, well, well maybe the buy
up money is still coming in, so I don't Maybe
there's no problem there.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
At least he knows his way around campus, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But like talk about like you know, I guess you
don't burn bridges for this very reason, right right exactly?
You never go up middle fingers up on your way
out because wow, I'm back as the DC.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, if you're going to burn that bridge, you better
make sure you don't want to come back to the
other side, because I mean, do you do something like
that and there's no coming back from it?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Mitch Barnhart was speaking on Mark Stops the other day
and he had the quote, you don't get many happy
endings in sports, and I think there is a sentiment
that we are getting that with Mark Stoops at Kentucky
after he restructured his buyout. I think there was going
to be a lot of maybe a bad taste in
a lot of people's mouth if Kentucky had to spend
all that money to Mark Stoops in that sixty day period,
(25:37):
or Mark stayed at the university waiting for all his money.
He did make the revision, and the Herald Leader came
out with some of those numbers today, Shannon, So, Mark
Stoops agreed to have just three point nine four million
dollars of his buyout paid within fifteen days of his termination.
He will be paid six point seventy five million dollars
per year through April twenty thirty one to make the
(25:59):
money he is owed from Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Well, he did him a big favor on his way
to share door, because I mean that could have been
all due in sixty days. Instead they were going to
spread it out over years. So you know, I guess
a bit of good will that Mark Stoops did on
his way out the door. Yeah, you know, if he's
worried about how fans are going to think of him,
then he did Kentucky a favor.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mark Stoops was taking nine million dollars a year in
his final contract with Kentucky. Will Stein's new contract numbers
just came out. He signed a five year, twenty eight
point five million dollar contract with a one year extension
for each college football playoff appearance, not bowl game appearance. Shanon,
that's an important.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Destyle like that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Now, if you can get him to the college football playoffs,
I think that you do deserve another year.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But he will be making around the neighborhood of about
five million dollars a year compared to Mark Stoops, who
was getting nine million dollars a year at the end
of his tenure and probably expected as will Stein comes
in as only thirty six year old and what is
he the youngest coach in the SEC, so have to
prove himself before he gets to that nine million miles.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I wonder if you know, before his five years is up,
if they expand the college football playoffs, because then it
makes it a little bit easier to make it there,
you know, but still though, if you're the College Football
Playoffs at Kentucky, that means you had a ten win season, right,
And if we got a coach that we're.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Bringing in that can get this team to ten wins.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Especially with these tough schedules that we play every single year,
then yeah, I think that I would like to have.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That coach for another year on the contract.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And credit to Vandy though for not having sour grapes
for not missing the playoff, right they tried to schedule
a thirteenth game. They are just you know, Clark Lee
has just been committed to, you know, making his team
better and then going and playing the actual bowl game
and not opting out. You know, Shannon, we saw three
teams opt out of their bowl game this season and
seven five and seven teams decline a bowl invite. So
(27:54):
I do want to give some credit to your commodorees
for you know, sucking it up a little bit and
actually going and playing in the post season.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, I mean, it is ridiculous that a team could
go ten and two in the SEC and not make
the college football playoffs. But again, that's just the argument
for expanding the playoffs, which I'm sure will go to
sixteen if I had to guess in the next two
or three years. But here's what I would like to
see happen with these teams that just opt out of
playing postseason games.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, I would like, like Notre Dame, let's just take
them since they were just barely on the outside looking in.
I would say, Okay, Notre Dame, you don't want to
play a post game postseason game this year, fine, but
your ban from playing in the college football.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Playoffs next year.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
They'd play real quick.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
They would play real quick. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Start holding these teams accountable instead of allowing them to
act like you know, self entitled babies. I mean, that's
what Notre Dame has been. We're not gonna play. We
didn't make the playoffs. We're just not gonna play at all.
I'm sick of that. You know, Like, if these teams
don't want to play in the postseason, fine, you're not
gonna play in the postseason next year when you have
the shot at the playoffs. That would fix that really quick.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It would. But we also need to stop with the
ESPN rank shows throughout the year. I think that is
what caused a lot of the strife with Notre Dame
because these ranking shows would come out in the middle
of the week and not all the information and all
the statistics are going to come in, right, So they've
had Notre Dame as in the playoffs until after conference
(29:16):
championship weekend, where information and stats change, and then Notre
Dame's on the outside looking in because there is a
need to have twenty four to seven sports programming like
site from sites and networks like ESPN, we overtalk, and
we have to sell these things like college football ranking shows,
and so that is probably needs to change a little
bit in the dichotomy of all this. But nevertheless, bowl
(29:39):
games becoming more and more irrelevant. One bowl game that
won't be irrelevant is the New Orleans Bowl this year,
where Western Kentucky will take on Southern miss. So I'll
be excited for it, but it's not the only reason
why we should be excited for it, as Matt Jones
and Myern Medcalf will be doing the play by play
and color for that game.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Shaden, Now that's on a radio, right, No, I think
that's wait wait wait, they're doing the Playboy play on TV.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I don't know this distinction. I will be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But well, we know the difference between Matt Jones and
Dave Fleming on TV.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's another great question. I don't know this distinction because
if it is on TV, we get mad in like
maybe a suit.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Okay, now I thought it was gonna be on radio.
Maybe we have to clarify that. But either way Matt
is making is this is Playboy play debut ever.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And here's the thing, Like Playboy Play is not easy.
If you don't you gotta like.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know, I watched Tom Leach and I've seen like
his preparation notes and he's got these huge like uh cards, cards,
cards and boards with like a ton of information and
highlights and it's all like numerically ordered, and it's a
whole thing that he's got. And I don't know that
Matt's preparation and organizational skills would allow him to have
(30:51):
something like that. So I think, I mean, he can
do it. I believe in him, but I'm really curious.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
To hear this.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I am like, I will listen to that game or
watch the game if it's on TV with his commentary,
just to hear it, because it's not an easy job.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, you're right, I mean you talk about Tom's prep.
I mean his board is color coded. Yeah, I mean
this is like a year's worth of stats and watching
every game of the team.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
The pronunciation he has, like the pronunciations you start, you
start getting players' names wrong, parents start getting upset about.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It, especially in a bowl game. Man, I mean, this
is the national stage.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Son's name wrong and you're on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh my gosh, you know how much I got that
doing high school games. But like, rightly, so, I mean
I should get it right. Like really, only your listeners
are the parents of these kids that are scattered throughout
the country. You want to get it right. When I
was doing the high school scoreboard show, I would get
county names wrong. Oh like rowing, I said, Like, I
think rowing on the time some of these like borderline
(31:54):
Kentucky counties, and the the calls lit up. I don't
want to be on the air, but you tell that show, hos,
that is not how you say that county. So you
got to get it right when you do those jobs.
And Matt's going to need to prepare a little bit
before this game near the end of December.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, I can't wait to hear it. So count me
in as one of the people who are going to
be listening.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
They got to get me on the sidelines or something.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Shannon, work yourself into it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I mean, I'm the one that's got the Western notes,
so I'll help where I can here.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Let's take another call. Who's next?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
JP?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What up?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
JP?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Man? Hey?
Speaker 8 (32:31):
So you are talking about music and I totally agree
with you all on kind of a I thing, kind
of crazy. But y'll played Yellow by cole Play a
couple of weeks ago. Have you'll ever heard the cover
by Old sixty. It's a new and upcoming band in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I have not, No, I haven't.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Okay, Well, I just I think you guys should give
them a listen to.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
They're pretty awesome and they're from Haullsville. I just didn't
know if you guys ever heard of him before.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I just want to give them shout out, all right,
anything else?
Speaker 8 (33:02):
No, sir?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right? Thank you? All right?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, if you want to call it with your music recommendations,
he top nine to twenty two eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, just be careful. You can listen to Cold Player.
Just be careful going to the concert. Shannon, that's right,
it is breakup. We kiss camp here in the the world,
pickleball Paul is on the line. What's up, pickleball Paul?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
What's going on? Fellas?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Hey man?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Go ahead there, yes, go ahead, yeah, hey.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Well. One of my favorite sayings is I watch games
and hear commentators say something, I have to ask myself,
what game are they watching? Uh, Shannon, I don't know
if you were called two weeks ago when I called
in talked about how soft this team is, and your
Cohart there the famous bogus with Billies who wanted to
argue that this team wasn't soft. They are the softest
team in the country. And my second comment, now this
(33:53):
is hearsay. I didn't hear it. I do know. For years,
Matt Jones has talked about teams being not relevant anymore.
And I don't like Dan dockets. But somebody said in
a week or two ago him when matth got into
it because Dan said that Kentucky wasn't relevant anymore. I
don't like Dan Dockets, but I really don't think you
can sit here and argue with that comment. And I'll listen,
(34:16):
hang up and listen. Of course, I got you know,
we got a old game here in fifteen minutes, so
I'm gonna get off there, all.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Right, good yeah, good luck with your pickleball game, Billy.
Do you think Kentucky is relevant? I mean, you look
at what's happened since COVID, and not much has happened
that we can say that's positive.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, Kentucky is relevant. They are a blue blood of
the sport. Second most wins all time, eight titles. Now,
what have you done for me lately? Not a ton?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, that's that's correct. I mean that's Indiana, right.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
But no, you can't say that they're not relevant right now.
I mean they are still. You know, when they pay
twenty two million dollars for a roster, it is the
talk of the sport. That is not because they are
an irrelevant program, and it's because they are the program.
So the success has not reached our expectations. But to
say they're not relevant would just be I don't think
(35:04):
you have a firm grasp on the sport if you
don't think that the Kentucky isn't relevant. But look, they've
got to win more, Shannon. They made a sweet sixteen
last year. That's not even enough, I think to the
expectations of this fan base.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I think, though, if you continue this trend of losing
to well, I mean they didn't do it last year.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
They went on a decent run in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But I mean again, you look at like what they've
done over the last several years and it you know,
we make fun of Indiana all the time, thinking that
they're relevant. You know, we're a big time program at
one time, and just I think you got to have
a longer stretch of five years of being really bad
before you slip into Indiana territory.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Right, And I mean in the hardest conference of all time.
Last year, Kentucky competed and they also won nine games
against top fifteen AP opponents, which tied a record. There
was success last year. They were a conversation in college basketball.
Quick can't we forget right? We all forget that quickly?
That man, it is really what have you done for
me lately?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
The soft stuff? I am again, I'm not going to
come on here and call these kids soft. I think
that they want to win as much as anybody, but
they do have to show toughness. They have to show
more of want to there's no doubt but to just
call somebody soft as I think a very generational thing.
Shann Boom Nevertheless.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, I don't know, but what I do know is
that they show no effort last game, and that doesn't
matter if you're soft or not. And that effort is
a complete is a bigger concern than being soft.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I agree. And not only that, but they are now
acknowledging that in these press conferences. So you know, this
is something that we are all watching and they have
to change if they want to have any success this year.
We need to take a break. We'll be right back
here on the ksrpre Shows. Welcome back. It's our final
segment on a Tuesday of the KSR pre Show. We've
got some calls to roll through, but one more headline.
(36:48):
Zach Calzada announced his retirement from football just a couple
days ago. He said, this wasn't how my career was
supposed to end. And Shannon, that now marks two years
in a row Kentucky football has ended the career of
one of their quarterbacks. Yeah, Brock vander Griffin.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It's so bad.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
They're like, I'm never throwing a football again, at least
to get his money up though, right, what about Garrett
Garrett get his money up?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Is that's the legacy of Zach Calzada here at Kentucky Unfortunately. Yeah,
you send one Snapchat video and that's how you're remembered
forever at a place that you got paid millions of
dollars to play football. It's just a weird dichonic.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
When I say you're not a Calzada, what comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Get your money up, Garrett?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, I mean, whether you like it or not, that's
that's his legacy here.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It just goes to show you how things can change. Yep, quickly,
let's take a call. Who's next?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Tom? Hey? Tom?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
What's up Tom?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Guys. So, there's a couple of things that I've been
wanted to say that I need to get off with test.
I would not accept an eighteen to twenty four year
old tradesman, and I'm not gonna treat the basketball players
or football players any differently than I with somebody who
does really poor work in a longcer business, a plumber
(38:04):
or an electrician, especially when they're making the amount of
money that they are with anil.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
So the people who boo, they should be able to boot.
I do think that techniques paved the way for game
checks when it comes to nil, so that we can
have coaches decisions do not play just like NBA does. Lastly,
Old sixty is an awesome freaking band. If you guys
haven't listened to them yet, I really think you guys
would like them, especially if you like that Tyler Childers
(38:31):
kind of outlaw country kind of feel.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thanks for the call, Tom, Thank you Tom.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
So Yeah, he says he wouldn't treat these basketball players
any different than he would somebody Moses line. So, Billy,
if somebody's mowing your lawn and they're getting there messing
up all the edges and they're mowing crooked, would you
be out there booing them?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I probably would. No.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I would just replace them with another tradesman. But I
can't do that with Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Basketball, Okay, So instead we boot them.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, I don't know you can. You can't replace them,
but I guess you can. And that's what people are doing.
Let's let's roll through another call here, Shanneony.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I would totally boot my landscaper. Shawn's up next, Hey, Sean,
poor guy, get it right, Hey.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Sean, Hey, Shan, I got you were talking about Sean.
Are you in a hole?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I can't hear you. There is this the blue there
you go?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
What about George Steinbrenner firing and re hiring Billy Martin
like nine different times through the seventies and eighties?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, Billy, what about that?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Well, I mean he just kept.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Before.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Oh okay, well yeah, I wasn't aware of that. So
that happened in the seventies and eighties. He just kept
firing and hiring.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
He keep firing. Why do you keep doing that?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
He would.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
He would get in the fights of players. Reggie Jackson,
for one, never got along with anybod He was the
only one that would win.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
So it seems like instead of firing him, he should
just maybe suspend him for a while because he was
going to bring him right back anyway. Necessary paperwork you'd
have to go through to hire and fire a guy
over and over again. We're gonna send him an orientation again.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
All right, Sean, thanks for the call. So there you go.
App he's not.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Doing orientation ever, he doesn't have to do training. Training.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You've got to get on the computer and take the orientation.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
What you gotta do?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
One more called Mike is on the line. What's up, Mike?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Hey, how you guys?
Speaker 7 (40:35):
Just back to the Christmas Carol dang on the old
ones that trystle.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Drummer Boy by Bob Seger.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
That's a good one. I think that's one of Matt's favorites.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
It's a really good one.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
I just wanted to go to that thanks to the call.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
All right, there you go?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
All right, Well I hadn't heard the recommendations today. You
never heard a little Drummer Boy by Bob Seeker?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
No, but I love a little Bob Seeger. Was he
the one that was screaming at people with the crowd
during his content? So that's John Mellencamp, John meller Camp. Yeah, No,
Bob Seeker is nice to his fans.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
John Mellencamp's a grumpy old elf that yells at people
for talking in his concerts.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, don't talk at my show.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I tried to get Ryan and I went to see
John Mellencamp. I tried to get Ryan to talk out
loud so he could get yelled at. But he he, well,
he got underneath the table. He got scared.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I'll check you if you ever stepped yelling at your fans.
Alice Blue Gown, I.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
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Speaker 1 (41:31):
Are, that's gonna do it for us. For Shannon the Dude,
I'm Billy Rutledge. This has been the KSR pre Show
and we will talk to you tomorrow
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KASR pre Show.
Today is Tuesday, December ninth. I am Billy Rutledge along
with Shannon the Dude. You give us a call on
the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line. It's eight five nine
two eight oh two two eight seven, Texas at five
oh two two six five six six five six, and
the KASR pre Show is brought to you by Italics
(00:24):
Fine Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky at the City Center.
Also give us a call be our Whiskey Thief Call
of the Day. I'm here in Lexington. Shannon the Dude,
my fellow procrastinator, is in Louisville. We were just talking
about how we're not Christmas shopping yet right before the
show started. What's up, dude, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I like to wait till the last minute. You don't
like the thrill of it. You get it if you
get it done too easy. It's just you know, too early,
it's too easy, and it's already done that you don't
have to think about it. I like waiting until the
very last minute, then go out and get it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
But then you have to go out into the traffic
amongst everybody during that time. You don't have a problem
getting out there with everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, no, I mean it's like that anyway right now.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If you go out there, you know, on the weekend
anytime in December, it's going to be like that, whether
it's the last weekend or the first weekend. And the
other thing is like the Christmas tree just now got up.
There's no way and we're sixteen days away from Christmas.
I'm not taking that Christmas tree down the day after
things or the day after Christmas. So I'm gonna keep
it up, maybe till March. She'll be my March Madness Tree.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
March Madness Tree, right, okay, which.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't know if Kentucky will be a part of
that or not. Probably not the way they're playing.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh well, man, you're right about that. That's a depressing realization.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Here, get down in December, take it down with the
Kentucky basketball season.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And how about that, Well, some people have it up
year round. I would call you crazy, some would call
you festive.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I would call you lazy.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Lazy's probably another word for it. Yeah, I don't have
the Christmas tree up yet, so I guess we are
slacking a Lott.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Are you waiting on? Dude? Are you gonna wait for
Christmas Eve to put up the Christmas tree?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Sixteen days before Christmas? You don't have the tree up,
you might as well as now you put it up.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I'm just not in the spirit yet, are you. I
know you're watching a little White Christmas? But oh yeah,
are you singing carols and songs yet?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Dude? No, one not going around caroling.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But that was a point of contention yesterday with a
lot of our listeners, Billy, I don't know if you
heard it on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The KSR show.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
A lot of listeners were very upset with Ryan and
I because we admit it that we have never seen
The Godfather and instead we like White Christmas, which is
complete opposite of a Mafia movie.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I was supposed to go home and watch The Godfather instead,
did you I pivoted. I doubled down and went back
home and watched White Christmas last night.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh you watched it again.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's still good. Geez, such a good movie.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You can't tell him anything. He'll just go and rewatch
the movie he already watched.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I'll get to it. I'll get to it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I understand, though. I mean, sometimes you watch a movie
you want to relax, you want to watch something a
little bit more lighthearted, or maybe something you've watched before
The Godfather. You've got to sit down, You've got to
commit a lot of effort and energy.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's right around Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't want to see people shooting other people up,
which I assume happens in The Godfather.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know, I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But you like you're aware of it though, like this,
Oh yeah, I'm aware it exists. I'm going to make
him an offer he can't refuse things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, I know those things. I know it exists. There's
a lot of things in the world I know exists,
but I just don't care to find out any more
about them.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I think you would be surprised by how little
kids today watch these older movies that we define as
cult classics. Like you ever try to throw in an
old movie reference to a kid to a class today,
or I have a younger brother and sister, and there
the references just go right on past them.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Shannon. Yeah, if I said to you, you'll shoot your
eye out. Oh yeah, you know what that's wrong?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yes, okay the rifle. Come on, we need the right
classic the classic Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What what movie?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie, come on.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, what what what movie?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You know what movie?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You don't know?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The day about Christmas Story?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Christmas Story, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, that's
that's really the one you watch every year with the
lamp and the well.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They run at twenty four hours straight on like TBS
and TNT, so if you turn it on at any point,
it's going, it's going.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
There's a good chance you'll see it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, because it's they run it non stop on a loop.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Uh but yeah, a couple of procrastinators here, Yeah, just
run a little just wait until the week of Christmas
to get our Christmas gifts.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That's right, that's right, that's what we do here. Eight
five nine two eight h two two eight seven. If
you'd like to join the show today, it is a
game day edition of the KSR pre Show. Shannon thirty
eight and a half point favorites. Kentucky takes on NC Central.
Let's get up and let's get ready to do it.
Have another game.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So tell me about NC Central. They are ranked what
three hundred and twenty seventh and three.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Fifty three fifty.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I was doing three sixty five.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I was giving them way too much credit. They're not
three hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
They're not even in the three hundred and twenty five
top Yeah, twenty five of college basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Good grief.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Three?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Why are we playing these teams? Because here's what's going
to happen. You know, they're gonna come out. They're gonna
win by forty tonight, just like they have every game
that they played. And I feel like we have played
like an unreasonable amount of teams ranked three hundredth or
worse this year. I feel like every team that we
played has been either three hundred or worse or Top
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, that was required to get into the BBN United
Invitational presented by Kentucky Tories.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well you gotta be ranked worse than three hundredth, you'd think, well,
no teams ranked better than three hundredth.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, I mean there's something to like building momentum and
getting these guys's confidence back a little bit tonight. But
I just I don't know how much you can learn
from playing a team like that. Shannon. It's almost like
you're going up against your practice guys. But I mean,
I say that, and this team could give Kentucky a
lot of fight tonight, especially since they're not playing well
and they're not playing together. But I you know, I'm
gonna look past that for just a second and think
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that Shannon, this will be a night that you know,
maybe in ESPN Plus game, I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Is it on ESPN Plus? It shouldn't be it.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I believe I'm getting it.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I believe it's on that network. I could be wrong, though,
look that up maybe while we're doing that. But yeah,
as far as like, what, what do you expect to
see tonight or what could you see that's going to
make you feel any better about this team so far,
I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, I think they could come out and win
by sixty tonight, and.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I don't know that I'm gonna feel any better about
the team because we've seen what they've done against real
competition this year, and that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They just throwing a big egg out there every time
they played in somebody that matters.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So until they beat somebody in the top twenty five,
I can't get too excited about this team. I mean,
maybe they beat Indiana on Saturday and we get a
little bit more optimistic about the team, But as of
right now, I don't think there's anything they can do
tonight that's going to make me more optimistic about them.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It is on SEC network, so it will be a
little easier to watch, but you should listen to Tom Leach
and Jack Gibbons anyway on the radio call if you
don't do that already, Chennon. A lot was a made
yesterday on KSR about the boos that Kentucky players heard
versus Gonzaga the other day. Do you think it's obceptible
acceptable to boo Kentucky players in today's age.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I do, and I will agree with some people who
are like, you know, you shouldn't be They say, like,
you don't boo college kids. Well, now these college kids
are making millions of dollars, a lot of them, so
now they're not just college kids.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They're they're semi pros basically.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
And I don't know that that's necessarily like the reason
to boot them, but when you got players that are
making that kind of money and putting out no effort,
that's when I think you boo them, like I wouldn't
boo them just because they're playing bad. But there was
more than just playing bad against Gonzaga. It was lack
of days ago effort. It was body language that was horrible,
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a team that looked like they did not want to
be there, and that is unacceptable. And I think, yeah,
I think it's perfectly fine to boo your own team
when they're that bad, when you're nine minutes into the
game and your best offense is two free throws, Billy,
that's elementary school type of basketball.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like, yes, they deserve to be booed. What do you think?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, I'm with you, especially with the shifts in makeing
this much money as a college athlete. Now, I do
think that sentiment has changed. You know, energy and effort
are the buzzwords that we're hearing a lot of people use,
and even Denzel Aberdeen and the guys spoke about it
to the media yesterday. But it's even more so than that,
Like it's it's more of like the non negotiables that
coaches teach you in grade school to play basketball, right,
(08:20):
I mean, just being accountable, responsible, trustworthy, and disciplined and
having respect. I mean, these are all things that are
taught at the basics levels of basketball in sports, and
if you aren't seeing those kind of things, then yeah,
I mean I think the Boobirds come out and rightfully so,
but hoping that does not happen tonight at Rupparena. But
you know, the fans that make their trip down in
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Nashville are a different type of fan than what you
see normally at the lower level at RUP. So mentioning
Denzel Aberdeen, he spoke to the media yesterday and said,
we're definitely going to make a change as far as
our energy and effort coming into these games. They haven't
been where they're supposed to be, but we're definitely going
to make a jump from now on forward. So these
guys are even recognizing that.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's great to hear, But I would say, why are
you not already right?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I mean, if you can't get up for the Louisville game,
your biggest rival, that's an issue. I don't know, like
how you can't get up for these big games, Like
if your energy level isn't where it was supposed to
be against Gonzaga on Friday night, I would say, why,
why is that?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The coach's fault for not motivating these guys. But then
part of me goes, why.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Does the coach need to motivate you?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You know, you are a a You're a Kentucky playing
some of the best schools in college basketball that they
played so far, you know, North Carolina and Gonzaga and Louisville,
and you can't get up for these games or energy
levels not where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Why.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, there's a human element in sports, right, I mean,
I mentioned this on the postgame show. I mean, you
can talk all you want about analytics, but you know
analytics can't tell you if you have a stomach ache
or if you had something happened to you that earlier
that day. So there does need to be a balance.
Mark Pope on calling show last night I actually got
to listen to a little bit yesterday, said that his
guys are practicing too much. He thinks O tega Oway
(10:07):
is in the gym so much that he's not resting, Shannon,
he's pressing so much. So there is a thought of
I want to change so badly, I want to be
so good that they don't leave the gym. Shannon, do
you think there's any credence to that.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So they're like overthinking it and over I mean, I
think that maybe Mark Pope, I think a caller brought
this up, could be over analyzing things when it comes
to analytics.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And that's ye so much of a swing from.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
What we had last year where it was or two
years ago when we had Caliperi. It was just roll
the ball out there and we'll make some adjustments in
the game and that's about it, you know, And now
it's like everything's over analyzed.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think you can overanalyze things to a point.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You know, analytics are good when you're looking at like
who do we want to try to get the most
shots or whatever it may be. But you're right, there
is a human element to the game and analytics aren't
going to tell you if a guy just broke up
with this girlfriend right before the game or isn't feeling
well like you said that on a particular night. But
at some point it comes down to a personality thing.
(11:07):
Either you have that fight, you have that hunger, or
you don't. And I would think that anybody who is
a D one basketball player who is good enough to
play at the University of Kentucky would not have to
be motivated to have their energy level up to want
to try to win these games, and clearly what we've
seen so far is that they're not.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
They're not into it. I don't know why, but they're not.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Pope said that the guys are growing, despite that's not
what Big Blue Nation wants to hear. I would argue
that we do want to hear that these guys are growing.
But you know, Aberdeen was another one that has felt
the weight of becoming a leader, having to step up
and take on roles that they haven't in the past.
And also when it comes to injury updates, Moo Diabata
is day to day while Jaden Quaintans is now going
through full contact work so he should be back maybe
(11:51):
probably later this month. So maybe that helps this team
a lot, Shannon. That won't help tonight as I doubt
that Jade quaints will be back here or Diabata.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They shouldn't need it tonight, but you know, looking ahead,
just still, you got Saint John's on the schedule, I
guess at Indiana on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
It's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
It is because again, like we play these games, like
we play tonight, you win by forty but then what's
gonna happen when you play a top twenty five team
you get blown out again, You're gonna get embarrassed by Indiana.
That's that's a game that a lot of people don't
even wan on the schedule, but they're a top twenty
five team.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, well, your toughness is being tested at this point,
like how will you respond? This season will be defined,
I think probably in the coming weeks or so, because
if they can go one of two ways, you could
show some fight tonight and against Indiana and maybe salvage
something for this year, or he could go the opposite
way quickly and we could lose these guys even more.
But we'll be here to talk about it at eight
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five nine two eight h two two eight seven. If
you want to call and join the show. We'll talk
a few things today, including some details coming out about
Mark Stoops's buy out and the restructuring he did. There
Will Stein getting a new contract. You know, Shannon, we
inch closer to Christmas and uh, you know this week
is the busiest week of the year for breaking up
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with your significant other.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh was that right?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yes, Apparently couples do a lot of reflection during the
holiday season. Maybe it's a chance to not have to
pay for Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That well that bingo ding d d d there's your
answer right there.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's why because they realize, oh, yeah, I got to
buy Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I really don't like this person anyway. Why am I really?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It is that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I guarantee you it's it. Why give me give me
a better explanation. That is, people who are in a
relationship they really don't want to be in and they
don't want to buy the other person Christmas gifts, so
they're like, you know what, let's just cut it off
right here.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yep. And then you're like, oh, your kids are gonna
need Christmas gifts this year.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'm out peace out, homie.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Lead Yeah, So be careful out there, folks. It is
a busy week of the year. We need to take
a break though. Eight five nine, two eighth two two
eight seven. We'll be right back here on the KS
our pre show. Oh this will get me in the spirit, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's good stuff, man.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Like, if I'm listening to Christmas music, I want it
to be old school Christmas music. I'm talking like nineteen forties,
nineteen fifties being Crosby.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes, that's the type of Christmas music.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I like the classics. Yes, I mean I will accept
Mariah Carey. I mean this, this is her time of
the year to make a little money, Shannon, But I
am with you. I like the older stuff, chestnuts roasting
on an open fire, to like stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Uh. One person said on our text line, which is
five O two two sixty five six six five six,
tells Shannon the Dude to play Rudolph the Red Nose
Reindeer by Creed. I tagged him on it on Twitter.
Have you ever heard of Reed playing Rudolph?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, it's like an AI thing when they use oh
for the song higher forget it. But we can't do
that because we're guaranteed human guarantee, human guaranteed human. I
don't even know does that apply to like AI stuff.
That can we play that because that's kind of like
our company policy.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Now we're guaranteed human.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't think we can. That'd be like throwing the
l's up, right.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Ye think we can lean into AI music.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's on our companies like email signatures. Now, Oh that's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, they want you to change, like you know, you
send the email and just got like your your name
and like the company they want you to put Guaranteed Human.
I don't know, does anybody think that you and I
aren't human yet as many mistakes as you and I
make on this show.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, not yet. I mean I don't think we're there yet,
but maybe, like twenty years down the road, is it
going to be tell hard to tell what is and
isn't ai, especially on the radio where you're not seeing
visually some things. I mean, yeah, maybe so. So you
know that's our initiative here. We are guaranteed human, and
you're right, Shannon, by the amount of mistakes we make,
(15:38):
like breaking a lamp on Friday, which is what I did.
I posted the picture of the broken lamp this morning
and Kentucky CW said we got to talk about how
Billy our Sports definitely practices his signature.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
No, yeah, it was he saying that your signature just
looks a little too good.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
For an autograph. I mean, I don't know how many
autographs have you signed in your life, Billy.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, Shannon, let me tell you, I do practice my
signature because I get asked for my autograph. Shannon, how
about that the damn bell who's asking.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You for your autograph?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Not kids but adults. Yeah. Yeah, the the grandmas that
have sympathy for me that listen to the show. I've
had a couple autographs for you. Yeah, that's not what
a freaking signature is is something that you repeat often, practic.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Don't think the point is I don't have great I
think the scene. But the c w's point is you
don't get for your autograph. You don't get asked for
your autograph that much, so it looks a little too clean.
I'm saying somebody who rarely have ever would get asked
for an autograph.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It looks too good.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So yeah, I'm not practicing in my bedroom instead of
while I'm watching The Godfather, Shannon. No, I just practice
because people want the autograph. But you acknowledge that you're talking.
I'm not doing that, But I practice because of all
these people that ask for autographs, Shannon. And you wouldn't
want my autograph if you looked at my betting record
on DraftKings though, Shannon, I mean, you would want to
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stay far away from me. And that's why sometimes you
got to take a break back. I have what you
want to win, the money you can do it on.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That I had a nice five leg parlay set up
for that Bears Packers game, and I always fall short
on that last leg. I need it four hundred and
fifty yards combined between the two quarterbacks, Billy, it got
to four to twenty thirty yards short of a five
leg parlay anyway. Turning the ball over for a secondly
got to that exactly. Hey, one touchdown can change everything,
the crowd, the momentum, the game itself.
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Speaker 1 (17:56):
Let's go to the phones here early dude, who's up first?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's good a free he freebird? What's up?
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Free bird?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I tell you y'all doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
We're good?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Man?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
How are you.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Shitting?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
You mentioned something about uh bad the human element, like
these kids are maybe getting their girlfriends breaking up with
them or something with all with everybody not liking each
other sounds more like kids stealing each other's girlfriends and
fights breaking out the way they don't.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Like each other sounds like to me, are you suggesting?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And maybe that's what's going on with the basketball team.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Who knows, man, because when you mentioned their friends, you know,
there's so much it seems like there's so much disdain
from a few guys. Maybe they're stealing each other's girl
friend guys.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Happened to see the uh there's like a video of
Oway in that last game against Gonzaga. He was wide
open for a three and Aberdeen didn't pass them the
ball and after the whistle blew, oh wait just kind
of shot he did like a fake shot, like as
if he were shooting the shot. So yeah, I mean,
there's definitely some on the court issues going on, and
maybe off the court too, but go ahead, free.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Bird that it just makes it go on to think
before the Louisville game, I mean, Hope in that hallway
was just, man, what am I going to do with
these hopings? It's just unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Man.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
But you know, maybe something can could come up of it.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
And uh.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, well yeah, yeah, that's the positive side of things.
Thanks for the call, f We appreciate it. You know,
there is still time to turn this thing around. But
as I said yesterday, like what is what have you
seen that would indicate that that's going to happen unless
you just think miraculously these shots are going to go down.
That's what Aberdeen said. You know, we keep shooting, it's
going to go in eventually.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is it. I don't know. I'm not convinced to that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I'm still holding out hope. Jayden Quainton's just magically
changes this entire roster.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I mean, we thought Jayalen coming back was going to
change everything, it didn't matter at all, But.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
He's no, I wouldn't say at all. I'd say the
team is much better when Jayalen back. But in that
last game, yeah, they shut him down early. He was
coming back from that injury. I think he could change
this team a lot. But at the same time, we
are over analyzing a ton right now, right, I mean
the O Way fake shot. I think there's a clip
of guys bumping into each other after a time out
going to the bench that people have made made some
(20:19):
words of. So I don't know, Shan. We're looking for answers.
We are desperate for a win against good competition.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
My point was, like, you know, Jalen Lowe played last game.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He played fourteen minutes, scored one point, still got beat
by thirty five.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Didn't matter, Yeah, didn't matter that he played.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, but this is a roster that's built around Jalen
low Aberdeen's better off the ball, I mean, and he's
had to shift to a new position and probably part
of the reason why, well maybe one of the reason
why they haven't played so well. So I don't know's
it's tough to find out. Let's take one more call
before we take a hard break. Here Tristan is on
the line. I believe what's up, Tristan.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, good morning, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
What you need to do is pull up the ruddles.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Rootolf the red Nose Reindeer by I declare war.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
That is the greatest arrangement of that of all time.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
I declare war Rudolf the.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Red Nose Reindeer.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
All right, it sounds like a metal version of it
or something.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I can't wait to hear it. Were you ever a
metal head rock radio? Did you ever go into that?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Never?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Never was a metal fan, like the these fans that
look like Louder than Life has sort of turned into
that the last few years where it's just like I
call it cookie monster rock.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, me won't cookie. I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I don't even like that, you know, like it's it's
not even music to me.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Like, well, you can't understand the lyrics. I mean, there
are a lot of songs like that, but that's just
I don't know, Shannon, To each their own. Some people
got to get some anger out. Maybe need to play
a little metal head, you know, after that one of.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
These games like the hardest rock, the hardest rock ever
got into is like maybe like Metallica or maybe like
Alice in Chains.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
H Uh, nothing too much harder than that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, never had any like eye paint on or
something like that. Back in the day, all black, no
little keychain on your wallet to keep it to your
belt loops, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's that's stuff that you do.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I did have Vans checkerboards back in the day, Shanny.
You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You were so tough.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yes, I know when Vans are well, I was the
toughest guy back the skater boy.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And we'll see you later, boy, We'll be right back
here on the case I preach, so welcome, gay.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I can't even with this. This is awful.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I can kind of hear the word Rudolph being said
in this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Song, Like, how does anybody listen to that?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
There's an audience for everything, I guess, but like, that's terrible.
Turn it back up just a second.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, I don't even want to. Like what is that?
It sounds like.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
A long burp going on in the background.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I can't believe seven hundred and fifteen thousand people have
listen to this.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Seven hundred and fifteen.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Thousand, yeah on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Wow, Well if they If if Louder than Life is
going to have Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer in metal form,
maybe it will be time to go back.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Seven hundred and fifteen thousand and Unfortunately one now, because
we just listened to.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It A five nine two eight ho two two eight seven.
If you'd like to join the show, Shannon. It was
September thirteenth, twenty twenty five, so just a few months ago.
Virginia Tech lost to Old Dominion forty five to twenty six,
and following the game, Virginia Tech fired their head coach
Brent Priy. Well, James Franklin was eventually hired as a
Virginia Tech coach, and he has now hired Brent Prye
(23:39):
to be the defensive coordinator for Virginia Tech. How weird
is that? And can you imagine a scenario where Will
Stein brought Mark Stoops back as the DC for Kentucky
football this year?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And I guess the AD was fine with that.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I guess this was Brent Priye was the defensive coordinator
for James Franklin at VAN for three years, so they
do have a history. But I just think that's a
bizarre story. Is it not to bring the head coach
back on the same staff.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
It is very very bizarre. We see those though, with
head coaches coming back.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know, maybe it's maybe a little bit different, you know,
with like Petrino coming back to Lobell and then Arkansas
a couple of different times. But yeah, but to be
fired and then to be hired right back within the
matter of what just a couple of months.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, I don't think that has that ever happened before.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's like you said it, people return home, But that's
like after a couple of years in between, right, Like
this is like eight weeks later you just got fired,
he returns back. How awkward of an office visit do
you have with the ad later?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Or is there like no hard feelings? I don't know,
you fired me three games into the season, like I've
got some hard feelings. Yeah, well, well maybe the buy
up money is still coming in, so I don't Maybe
there's no problem there.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
At least he knows his way around campus, I guess.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
But like talk about like you know, I guess you
don't burn bridges for this very reason, right right exactly?
You never go up middle fingers up on your way
out because wow, I'm back as the DC.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, if you're going to burn that bridge, you better
make sure you don't want to come back to the
other side, because I mean, do you do something like
that and there's no coming back from it?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Mitch Barnhart was speaking on Mark Stops the other day
and he had the quote, you don't get many happy
endings in sports, and I think there is a sentiment
that we are getting that with Mark Stoops at Kentucky
after he restructured his buyout. I think there was going
to be a lot of maybe a bad taste in
a lot of people's mouth if Kentucky had to spend
all that money to Mark Stoops in that sixty day period,
(25:37):
or Mark stayed at the university waiting for all his money.
He did make the revision, and the Herald Leader came
out with some of those numbers today, Shannon, So, Mark
Stoops agreed to have just three point nine four million
dollars of his buyout paid within fifteen days of his termination.
He will be paid six point seventy five million dollars
per year through April twenty thirty one to make the
(25:59):
money he is owed from Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Well, he did him a big favor on his way
to share door, because I mean that could have been
all due in sixty days. Instead they were going to
spread it out over years. So you know, I guess
a bit of good will that Mark Stoops did on
his way out the door. Yeah, you know, if he's
worried about how fans are going to think of him,
then he did Kentucky a favor.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mark Stoops was taking nine million dollars a year in
his final contract with Kentucky. Will Stein's new contract numbers
just came out. He signed a five year, twenty eight
point five million dollar contract with a one year extension
for each college football playoff appearance, not bowl game appearance. Shanon,
that's an important.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Destyle like that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Now, if you can get him to the college football playoffs,
I think that you do deserve another year.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But he will be making around the neighborhood of about
five million dollars a year compared to Mark Stoops, who
was getting nine million dollars a year at the end
of his tenure and probably expected as will Stein comes
in as only thirty six year old and what is
he the youngest coach in the SEC, so have to
prove himself before he gets to that nine million miles.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I wonder if you know, before his five years is up,
if they expand the college football playoffs, because then it
makes it a little bit easier to make it there,
you know, but still though, if you're the College Football
Playoffs at Kentucky, that means you had a ten win season, right,
And if we got a coach that we're.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Bringing in that can get this team to ten wins.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Especially with these tough schedules that we play every single year,
then yeah, I think that I would like to have.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That coach for another year on the contract.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And credit to Vandy though for not having sour grapes
for not missing the playoff, right they tried to schedule
a thirteenth game. They are just you know, Clark Lee
has just been committed to, you know, making his team
better and then going and playing the actual bowl game
and not opting out. You know, Shannon, we saw three
teams opt out of their bowl game this season and
seven five and seven teams decline a bowl invite. So
(27:54):
I do want to give some credit to your commodorees
for you know, sucking it up a little bit and
actually going and playing in the post season.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, I mean, it is ridiculous that a team could
go ten and two in the SEC and not make
the college football playoffs. But again, that's just the argument
for expanding the playoffs, which I'm sure will go to
sixteen if I had to guess in the next two
or three years. But here's what I would like to
see happen with these teams that just opt out of
playing postseason games.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, I would like, like Notre Dame, let's just take
them since they were just barely on the outside looking in.
I would say, Okay, Notre Dame, you don't want to
play a post game postseason game this year, fine, but
your ban from playing in the college football.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Playoffs next year.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
They'd play real quick.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
They would play real quick. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Start holding these teams accountable instead of allowing them to
act like you know, self entitled babies. I mean, that's
what Notre Dame has been. We're not gonna play. We
didn't make the playoffs. We're just not gonna play at all.
I'm sick of that. You know, Like, if these teams
don't want to play in the postseason, fine, you're not
gonna play in the postseason next year when you have
the shot at the playoffs. That would fix that really quick.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It would. But we also need to stop with the
ESPN rank shows throughout the year. I think that is
what caused a lot of the strife with Notre Dame
because these ranking shows would come out in the middle
of the week and not all the information and all
the statistics are going to come in, right, So they've
had Notre Dame as in the playoffs until after conference
(29:16):
championship weekend, where information and stats change, and then Notre
Dame's on the outside looking in because there is a
need to have twenty four to seven sports programming like
site from sites and networks like ESPN, we overtalk, and
we have to sell these things like college football ranking shows,
and so that is probably needs to change a little
bit in the dichotomy of all this. But nevertheless, bowl
(29:39):
games becoming more and more irrelevant. One bowl game that
won't be irrelevant is the New Orleans Bowl this year,
where Western Kentucky will take on Southern miss. So I'll
be excited for it, but it's not the only reason
why we should be excited for it, as Matt Jones
and Myern Medcalf will be doing the play by play
and color for that game.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Shaden, Now that's on a radio, right, No, I think
that's wait wait wait, they're doing the Playboy play on TV.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I don't know this distinction. I will be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But well, we know the difference between Matt Jones and
Dave Fleming on TV.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
That's another great question. I don't know this distinction because
if it is on TV, we get mad in like
maybe a suit.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Okay, now I thought it was gonna be on radio.
Maybe we have to clarify that. But either way Matt
is making is this is Playboy play debut ever.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And here's the thing, Like Playboy Play is not easy.
If you don't you gotta like.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know, I watched Tom Leach and I've seen like
his preparation notes and he's got these huge like uh cards, cards,
cards and boards with like a ton of information and
highlights and it's all like numerically ordered, and it's a
whole thing that he's got. And I don't know that
Matt's preparation and organizational skills would allow him to have
(30:51):
something like that. So I think, I mean, he can
do it. I believe in him, but I'm really curious.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
To hear this.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I am like, I will listen to that game or
watch the game if it's on TV with his commentary,
just to hear it, because it's not an easy job.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, you're right, I mean you talk about Tom's prep.
I mean his board is color coded. Yeah, I mean
this is like a year's worth of stats and watching
every game of the team.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
The pronunciation he has, like the pronunciations you start, you
start getting players' names wrong, parents start getting upset about.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
It, especially in a bowl game. Man, I mean, this
is the national stage.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Son's name wrong and you're on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Oh my gosh, you know how much I got that
doing high school games. But like, rightly, so, I mean
I should get it right. Like really, only your listeners
are the parents of these kids that are scattered throughout
the country. You want to get it right. When I
was doing the high school scoreboard show, I would get
county names wrong. Oh like rowing, I said, Like, I
think rowing on the time some of these like borderline
(31:54):
Kentucky counties, and the the calls lit up. I don't
want to be on the air, but you tell that show, hos,
that is not how you say that county. So you
got to get it right when you do those jobs.
And Matt's going to need to prepare a little bit
before this game near the end of December.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well, I can't wait to hear it. So count me
in as one of the people who are going to
be listening.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
They got to get me on the sidelines or something.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Shannon, work yourself into it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I mean, I'm the one that's got the Western notes,
so I'll help where I can here.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Let's take another call. Who's next?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
JP?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What up?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
JP?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (32:28):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Man? Hey?
Speaker 8 (32:31):
So you are talking about music and I totally agree
with you all on kind of a I thing, kind
of crazy. But y'll played Yellow by cole Play a
couple of weeks ago. Have you'll ever heard the cover
by Old sixty. It's a new and upcoming band in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I have not, No, I haven't.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
Okay, Well, I just I think you guys should give
them a listen to.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
They're pretty awesome and they're from Haullsville. I just didn't
know if you guys ever heard of him before.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I just want to give them shout out, all right,
anything else?
Speaker 8 (33:02):
No, sir?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right? Thank you? All right?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, if you want to call it with your music recommendations,
he top nine to twenty two eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, just be careful. You can listen to Cold Player.
Just be careful going to the concert. Shannon, that's right,
it is breakup. We kiss camp here in the the world,
pickleball Paul is on the line. What's up, pickleball Paul?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
What's going on? Fellas?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Hey man?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Go ahead there, yes, go ahead, yeah, hey.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Well. One of my favorite sayings is I watch games
and hear commentators say something, I have to ask myself,
what game are they watching? Uh, Shannon, I don't know
if you were called two weeks ago when I called
in talked about how soft this team is, and your
Cohart there the famous bogus with Billies who wanted to
argue that this team wasn't soft. They are the softest
team in the country. And my second comment, now this
(33:53):
is hearsay. I didn't hear it. I do know. For years,
Matt Jones has talked about teams being not relevant anymore.
And I don't like Dan dockets. But somebody said in
a week or two ago him when matth got into
it because Dan said that Kentucky wasn't relevant anymore. I
don't like Dan Dockets, but I really don't think you
can sit here and argue with that comment. And I'll listen,
(34:16):
hang up and listen. Of course, I got you know,
we got a old game here in fifteen minutes, so
I'm gonna get off there, all.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Right, good yeah, good luck with your pickleball game, Billy.
Do you think Kentucky is relevant? I mean, you look
at what's happened since COVID, and not much has happened
that we can say that's positive.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yes, Kentucky is relevant. They are a blue blood of
the sport. Second most wins all time, eight titles. Now,
what have you done for me lately? Not a ton?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, that's that's correct. I mean that's Indiana, right.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
But no, you can't say that they're not relevant right now.
I mean they are still. You know, when they pay
twenty two million dollars for a roster, it is the
talk of the sport. That is not because they are
an irrelevant program, and it's because they are the program.
So the success has not reached our expectations. But to
say they're not relevant would just be I don't think
(35:04):
you have a firm grasp on the sport if you
don't think that the Kentucky isn't relevant. But look, they've
got to win more, Shannon. They made a sweet sixteen
last year. That's not even enough, I think to the
expectations of this fan base.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I think, though, if you continue this trend of losing
to well, I mean they didn't do it last year.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
They went on a decent run in the tournament.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But I mean again, you look at like what they've
done over the last several years and it you know,
we make fun of Indiana all the time, thinking that
they're relevant. You know, we're a big time program at
one time, and just I think you got to have
a longer stretch of five years of being really bad
before you slip into Indiana territory.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Right, And I mean in the hardest conference of all time.
Last year, Kentucky competed and they also won nine games
against top fifteen AP opponents, which tied a record. There
was success last year. They were a conversation in college basketball.
Quick can't we forget right? We all forget that quickly?
That man, it is really what have you done for
me lately?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
The soft stuff? I am again, I'm not going to
come on here and call these kids soft. I think
that they want to win as much as anybody, but
they do have to show toughness. They have to show
more of want to there's no doubt but to just
call somebody soft as I think a very generational thing.
Shann Boom Nevertheless.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, I don't know, but what I do know is
that they show no effort last game, and that doesn't
matter if you're soft or not. And that effort is
a complete is a bigger concern than being soft.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I agree. And not only that, but they are now
acknowledging that in these press conferences. So you know, this
is something that we are all watching and they have
to change if they want to have any success this year.
We need to take a break. We'll be right back
here on the ksrpre Shows. Welcome back. It's our final
segment on a Tuesday of the KSR pre Show. We've
got some calls to roll through, but one more headline.
(36:48):
Zach Calzada announced his retirement from football just a couple
days ago. He said, this wasn't how my career was
supposed to end. And Shannon, that now marks two years
in a row Kentucky football has ended the career of
one of their quarterbacks. Yeah, Brock vander Griffin.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
It's so bad.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
They're like, I'm never throwing a football again, at least
to get his money up though, right, what about Garrett
Garrett get his money up?
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Is that's the legacy of Zach Calzada here at Kentucky Unfortunately. Yeah,
you send one Snapchat video and that's how you're remembered
forever at a place that you got paid millions of
dollars to play football. It's just a weird dichonic.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Am I wrong about that?
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Like?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
When I say you're not a Calzada, what comes to mind?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Get your money up, Garrett?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Well, I mean, whether you like it or not, that's
that's his legacy here.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
It just goes to show you how things can change. Yep, quickly,
let's take a call. Who's next?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Tom? Hey? Tom?
Speaker 1 (37:41):
What's up Tom?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Guys. So, there's a couple of things that I've been
wanted to say that I need to get off with test.
I would not accept an eighteen to twenty four year
old tradesman, and I'm not gonna treat the basketball players
or football players any differently than I with somebody who
does really poor work in a longcer business, a plumber
(38:04):
or an electrician, especially when they're making the amount of
money that they are with anil.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
So the people who boo, they should be able to boot.
I do think that techniques paved the way for game
checks when it comes to nil, so that we can
have coaches decisions do not play just like NBA does. Lastly,
Old sixty is an awesome freaking band. If you guys
haven't listened to them yet, I really think you guys
would like them, especially if you like that Tyler Childers
(38:31):
kind of outlaw country kind of feel.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Thanks for the call, Tom, Thank you Tom.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
So Yeah, he says he wouldn't treat these basketball players
any different than he would somebody Moses line. So, Billy,
if somebody's mowing your lawn and they're getting there messing
up all the edges and they're mowing crooked, would you
be out there booing them?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I probably would. No.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I would just replace them with another tradesman. But I
can't do that with Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Basketball, Okay, So instead we boot them.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, I don't know you can. You can't replace them,
but I guess you can. And that's what people are doing.
Let's let's roll through another call here, Shanneony.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I would totally boot my landscaper. Shawn's up next, Hey, Sean,
poor guy, get it right, Hey.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Sean, Hey, Shan, I got you were talking about Sean.
Are you in a hole?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
I can't hear you. There is this the blue there
you go?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
What about George Steinbrenner firing and re hiring Billy Martin
like nine different times through the seventies and eighties?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, Billy, what about that?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Well, I mean he just kept.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Before.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Oh okay, well yeah, I wasn't aware of that. So
that happened in the seventies and eighties. He just kept
firing and hiring.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
He keep firing. Why do you keep doing that?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (39:53):
He would.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
He would get in the fights of players. Reggie Jackson,
for one, never got along with anybod He was the
only one that would win.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
So it seems like instead of firing him, he should
just maybe suspend him for a while because he was
going to bring him right back anyway. Necessary paperwork you'd
have to go through to hire and fire a guy
over and over again. We're gonna send him an orientation again.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
All right, Sean, thanks for the call. So there you go.
App he's not.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Doing orientation ever, he doesn't have to do training. Training.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You've got to get on the computer and take the orientation.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
What you gotta do?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
One more called Mike is on the line. What's up, Mike?
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Hey, how you guys?
Speaker 7 (40:35):
Just back to the Christmas Carol dang on the old
ones that trystle.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Drummer Boy by Bob Seger.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
That's a good one. I think that's one of Matt's favorites.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
It's a really good one.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
I just wanted to go to that thanks to the call.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
All right, there you go?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
All right, Well I hadn't heard the recommendations today. You
never heard a little Drummer Boy by Bob Seeker?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
No, but I love a little Bob Seeger. Was he
the one that was screaming at people with the crowd
during his content? So that's John Mellencamp, John meller Camp. Yeah, No,
Bob Seeker is nice to his fans.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
John Mellencamp's a grumpy old elf that yells at people
for talking in his concerts.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, don't talk at my show.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I tried to get Ryan and I went to see
John Mellencamp. I tried to get Ryan to talk out
loud so he could get yelled at. But he he, well,
he got underneath the table. He got scared.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I'll check you if you ever stepped yelling at your fans.
Alice Blue Gown, I.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Would never do that. We're just happy to see you. Hey,
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Speaker 1 (41:31):
Are, that's gonna do it for us. For Shannon the Dude,
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