December 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Shannon The Dude and Billy Rutledge talk JMI's deal with UK, Kentucky Football hires a new Defensive Coordinator, and cows walking downstairs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KASR pre Show.
Today is Thursday, December eleventh. I'm Billy Rutligs along with
Shannon the Dude. You can give us a call on
the Clark's Pumping Shop phone line. It's eight five nine
two eight oh two two eight seven, Texas at five
o two two six five six six five six and
is always The KSR pre Show is brought to you
(00:21):
by Italics. Find Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky, at the
City Center on Main Street. That's where I'm at today
here on the seventh floor. Shannon the Dude is in Louisville.
I was just talking a little weather with my guy
the Dude. I guess it's supposed to snow tonight. Shannon,
you're going to be watching your newscast tomorrow morning to
see if you have to go to school tomorrow with that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know, right, that's the thing. I used to love
snow when I was a kid. I still do, I
guess now. But you know you would pray for snow
so you wouldn't have to go to school the next day,
especially on a Friday, where you could get a three
day weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Out of it. The only thing goes. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Usually we have to go to work when it snows.
Although we were just talking, you know, depending on which
meteorologists you believe, some of them are saying like two
to four inches, and I was like, well, we're gonna
be driving through four inches of snow tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The summerset.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't know, like we gotta we gotta talk about
these things, maybe not necessarily on the air, but some
stuff that we got to you know, take into consideration.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, somebody's gonna have to make that call. But nevertheless,
I have fond memories of turning on my local news
and watching the ticker at the bottom. Wasn't old enough
for having the radio announcements, but did enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So great thing about Bullet County is if it snowed
at like a flake, you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Were out the back roads like shit went down.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Like on a snow night.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
If somebody went out and peed in the road and
it froze, they would say, all right, school's out, it's done.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Nobody go same thing in Oldham County. It's just a
dusting and they would have to close. Well, we've got
a big show today. We'd love to hear from you.
Eight five, nine two eight h two two eight seven.
Kentucky just hired a defensive coordinator maybe thirty minutes ago.
We'll touch on that in a second. Some dry in
the world of college football when it comes to the
Michigan head coach. And it's a game day edition of
the KSR Pre Show, as we have Kentucky volleyball in
(02:08):
the Sweet sixteen today versus cal Poly, who Shannon is
a dangerous twelve seed, beat two pretty good teams to
get to this point, and now Craig Skinner has got
another other matchup today at three point thirty pm Historical
Memorial Coliseum. So wishing nothing but the best for the
Ksrpre Show guest.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Thanks, Yeah, hopefully they have a good crowd out there.
I haven't seen the ticket sell so I don't know
if it's sold out yet or not. Hopefully it is
though for that team, because they deserve it. They played
so well all year. But you're right, you don't want
to just overlook a team because they're at twelve seed.
Two teams already did and they're already out of the tournament.
So you can't take this team coming in cal Poly
lightly today. Three point thirty is when it all gets
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going and best a look to the volleyball team.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, no doubt, Brooklyn Delay, Eva Hudson, all those ladies.
We are wishing you nothing but the best today. Kentucky
the number two overall seed in the tournament, so let's
take care of business and then make the region final
in the Elite eight coming up this weekend. But that
again is at three thirty pm. I think it's like
thirty minutes after the first game. So just you know,
just play a little hooky from workshin right.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, if you can get away with it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think that's probably what a lot of people were
having to do to be able to get out of
work today to go watch that game.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did you ever have a senior skip day back in
the day we're talking high school this morning.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, we did, But you know, I don't know that
I did it though, because I feelt I would have
gotten in trouble with my parents. I don't think they
would just let me off the hook like my cool day.
My parents were very dolled in to like what I
was doing.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
So where you were, Yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I wasn't running all over the place when I was
in high school. I was most of the time at home,
So I don't think I actually got to have a
senior skip day.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, and kind of like right after I graduated high school,
they were very adamant about calling your parents if you
were to miss school and things like that. So it
wasn't just a marked absence if you didn't show up,
it was you know, where is he? Let's alert everybody
that he's not here. That's not as fun.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
See, I was always afraid of what might happen if
I did that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I'm going to hold your diplomas what I heard They're like, well, no,
no graduation.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well I'm not talking about worried about what the school
would do. I'm talking about like what my dad, you're
worried about out?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I was more worried about that than I was what
the school might do. I wouldn't care hold my diploma
like you think I'm never gonna get it because I
skipped it one day.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, I guess it wasn't senior skip day that they
would hold the diploma for. It was more like like
the the what was it, the class prank? The senior prank?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh yeah, do yep.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And I don't think we really had a good one
for mine. Like I hear these stories of like putting
a cow on the second floor, and you know, cows
can't go downstairsh in, And so how you're going to
get that damn thing off the room?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
How'd you get it up there to begin with? Is
what I want to know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, they can walk upstairs, but they can't go down.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I was thinking, hold on, a man, I didn't
even know this.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I believe. So again, we I talk, you know, we
talk about things. We don't know a lot yet. But
I believe if you bring a cow upstairs, they can't
go down. So if you were to bring like a
cow onto the second floor roof of a school, yeah,
it's like really really hard to get down.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's something I never knew.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well again, farmer, Billy or sports here to tell you
about cows?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Why can't they go downstairs?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
They gonna fight tump over, I don't know, start rolling
down the stairs.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You had to ask them, and they're fears of stairs
or whatever it may be. So you didn't have a
class prank or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean, I guess maybe like some of the other
I guess I was boring in high school.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't really have any great year.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm afraid of what mom and dad are gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, I guess I don't have any good high school
stories really, m Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I wish I guess make something up.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We used to love the movie theater or just going
and parking our cars in a parking lot.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, and that's what we would do.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know what you did back in the day.
We would go meet up in a parking lot and
just like park all our cars. That was just the
fun of being sixteen, right and having your driver's license.
And that kind of comes off the heels of a
story you guys talked about on KSR yesterday where Australia
has panned social media for everybody under sixteen and I'm
all for freedom, Shannon, And I was on social media
(06:02):
under sixteen, but I wish I wasn't, And honestly, I
think this is a pretty good move. And I think
you agreed with me.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I do.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean, look, we already have situations where if you're
under a certain age, you can't go watch a RATEDAR
movie without a parent, right, So I mean, yeah, I'm
forgiving people their freedom, but I'm also like we're talking
about kids here who need to be protected from a lot.
I mean, we have a saying yesterday on KSR. Being
on social media as an adult is not good for
your mental health. Now, I imagine you're, you know, thirteen,
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fourteen whatever, and you got somebody bullying you or you know,
telling you bad, you know, awful things, and it's hard
to process that. So yeah, I would be for that.
I don't think that anybody under sixteen really needs to
be on social media.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, you get your whole life ahead of you to
get on MySpace, Shannon to my friends on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's been on MySpace in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, Tom was on MySpace. Not Tom Leech or Tom Harp,
but Tom. You remember Tom back in the day in
my space, he was like your one friend.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, he was like looking at like a you know,
he was sitting there in a white T shirt and
a whiteboard behind him and he's looking over his shoulder
with two thumbs up.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I think I've got that his profile picture burned
into my brain.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Very influential person in my childhood. And then you'd have
to rank your top eight and then your friends would
be mad and things like that, and maybe that's why
we don't let kids have social media. But on a
serious note, there is a mental health epidemic going on
and this maybe would go a long way to helping
Australia with that. Another thing on ks are the other
last couple days or so gym's in airports? Shannon, what
(07:37):
are we thinking? What are we thinking? You really want
to be next to some sweaty guy that just went
through an hour on the elliptical so before.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You put in a shower.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean you act like I'm not sitting next to
sweaty people already on planes. I mean, come on, every
time I get on a plane at somebody who's sweaty
and you know, taking up my armrest and like all
up in my space. I don't think there's any different.
There's already people sweating all over me when I get
on a plane.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well now just add the heavy breathing and the protein
shake and chicken that they're trying to eat to get
their protein in.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, i'd before that, you know, especially if you've
got a layover. I mean, I really that's the one
reason in it.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Though.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm not going to the terminal to go work out,
but you know, if I'm on a layover and I've
got to sit there for six hours. Maybe I'll go
over to the chilies too, drink a couple of beers,
and then go sweat out that beer, do some chin ups,
some push ups.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, crches.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
If they're adding playgrounds to airports, that is the adult
playground is the Chili's at your local cleaner sport, going
to get an airport beer before you take off or
maybe right after you land. So it seems like they're
changing a lot in airports. But it's good if we
distracted children. I mean, look over here, kid, there's a
playground over here. Stop screaming, Shannon. I think the biggest
(08:51):
news of the day has to be the reporting done
by Jacob Polochik and Jack Pilgrim. I want to commend
them for the article that they released on KSR yesterday,
really a deep dive into the recruiting with Kentucky basketball,
the involvement with JMI after signing that deal through twenty
forty for four hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Dollars, good grief, man.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't know how you look at that and say
that's a good deal, especially when you look at all
the hurdles that Kentucky has had to jump over to
be able to pull in some recruits, and we haven't
really done that at all, especially for the twenty sixth class.
And it's because of this contract that JAMI has that
a lot of players just aren't willing to sign because
(09:35):
other schools don't have sort of the same verbiage in
the contract. So JMI is really, as we're finding out
if you read this article, is really interfering with recruiting,
and you're wonder why Kentucky hasn't getting some of these
big time commitments. JMI, I think has a lot to
do with that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Billy Well, I would employ everybody to read the article
by Jacob and Jack. There's a lot of details about
really not just one thing that's holding Kentucky back, but
there are some major things that are making it much
more difficult. Kentucky doesn't have a player yet signed in
the class of twenty twenty six and one of those
reasons my maybe jmi's involvement negative recruiting going on in
(10:16):
the process. Mark Pope and his emotions at the closing
table of some of these deals, Shannon, I mean, some
of these stories and quotes, I mean are really interesting
one person says, I will say that Kentucky is the
only school that I've dealt with that even has anything
remotely like this in their contracts when it comes to
JMI and their whole UK having their collective in house
(10:39):
with JMI in that limiting what athletes and who they
can sign with. If you sign with JMI and UK,
I mean, prospective student athletes have to sign away nil
rights that would normally not be touched at other schools.
So if you're at the negotiating table and Kentucky has
all these restraints compared to a different school, I could
(11:01):
absolutely seeing that impacting the process, can't you.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right, And if you're a player that's being recruited by Kentucky,
you're likely a same player that's being recruited by other
blue blood schools out there as well, Billy, So let's
just say I'm being recruited by Kentucky, North Carolina, and Duke.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, And it's in my mind.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't have any you know, personal allegiance to any
of these schools, But I'm just looking at the contract
that's in front of me, and I see two of
the three schools don't have any restrictions, and I look
at this other school, this one being Kentucky, and I
look at the JMI literature that's in the contract, and
I see stuff in there that I don't like that's
going to restrict me and restrict nil opportunities that I
(11:43):
would have. I think immediately you would just eliminate that
school and go, well, I'm either going to North Carolina
or Duke. And I think that's a lot of what's
happening here when it comes to recruiting for Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, a big part of that is in the article,
the lack of clarity and direct answers that some of
these recruits are getting at the table. How much money
am I going to get? Well, I mean, we could
get you this or how can we get you to
That is kind of the conversations Kentucky is having, allegedly
compared to other schools that will come to a recruit
and say you're going to get this much. Yep, you're
going to get this and this.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's cut and dry, it's easy. I mean, why would
you go through an unnecessary roadblock if you don't have to?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Right and if those numbers do eventually come but it's
late in the process. Shannon I mean, how much you
know that that's going to impact people trying to make
the most important decision of their lives. Yep, it just is.
Now there's also part of Mark Pope. At the end
of these processes. You know, when you're going for these
big fish and other schools, you know up their offer
(12:42):
or a recruit revises a demand. Apparently, you know, Mark
Pope does the this is Kentucky approach. Why would we
get into a bidding war with some of these athletes
when we are Kentucky, we are the gold standard. You know,
we heard a little bit of that with cal But
somebody that is very emotional after a tough loss also
(13:03):
seems like is bringing that emotion over to the recruiting price.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
This is Kentucky argument does not work in my opinion,
in the world of nio that we now live in.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Maybe before when it was just you're.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Gonna come here, you're gonna get a good education, scholarship,
have an opportunity to you know, we can sell you
on the NBA. Look at all the former players that
now are in the NBA making millions of dollars. But
now you got players making great money at the college level.
So the argument of this is Kentucky. I don't think
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works anymore. Sure, it's still a blue blood, but Billy,
I mean, we're talking about kids coming out of high
school and having a ton of money thrown at them.
I don't care who you are. I don't care that
you're Kentucky. I've got this other school over here, who's
also a great school, who is offering me a lot
of money, and I'm going for the money. I can't
(13:56):
blame a kid coming out of high school making that decision.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I would too. You're Kentucky, Okay, so what good for you?
Good luck? I'm going over here. It's not you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, Well it's not a factor. Well it's it's not
not a factor anymore. I mean, Kentucky is still Kentucky.
There's going to be that appeal. There's nothing like this
fan base and this program. But at the same time,
it is much less valuable than what it used to be.
I mean, like the money is. It's just completely different.
When it's all above board and you can just use
(14:26):
that as your recruiting pitch. Initially the man has to
you can walk through the front door with the money
instead of the back door. Shannon that's the difference. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean imagine like coming out of high school, Billy,
you put yourself back in high school.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And we'll just go low.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We'll just say there's a school of harving you one
hundred thousand dollars. Can you imagine at seventeen being offered
one hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No, in life, shame exactly in your mind.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Now, in reality, one hundred thousand dollars doesn't go nearly
as far as it used to, and it's not really
much money, But to a seventeen year old kid, that
is a lot of money, you know, for some like
me who didn't even have a job at that age, right,
and somebody saying, here's one hundred thousand dollars, I'm going
where the money is. You know, I can still get
to the NBA plan for another school. I don't have
(15:10):
to go to Kentucky to get to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Well, the money's a big part of this, because Kentucky,
with the reported twenty two million dollar roster, should have
enough money to pay for whoever they want.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, but it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Doesn't seem like it's been allocated in maybe the best way.
And that twenty two million dollar figure is also being
used in negative recruiting against Mark Pope in Kentucky, and so,
I mean, you have to expect that, but to see
that in writing is also discouraging. But you know, very
good article by Polchick and Pilgrim. I would employ you
to check it out at KSR Kentucky Sports Radio dot com.
(15:43):
A lot of details about why, maybe the reason why
Kentucky doesn't have a recruit in the twenty twenty six class.
Yet we want to hear from you. What are your
thoughts eight five nine two eight h two two eight
seven Texas at five oh two two sixty five six
six five six what would you do to replace Dumas
Walker after a Kentucky basket that's coming up next here
on the case. I appreciate it does feel like Kentucky
(16:05):
just won something, though, like my body has been trained
to hear that song and and think of a win. Shannon,
but that a good thing?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know, Yeah, I think so. I love the
Kentucky head Hunters. Those they're great dudes, by the way,
love those guys. I've had a chance to talk to
him and interview him a few times.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Great, But it's just it's just not the most modern
thing that Kentucky does. And we've been talking about that
a little bit over the past week or so.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, but here's the thing, Like we talk about tradition
all the time, and then we have a tradition of
playing Dumas Walker and everybody what's to get rid of it?
So I mean, like that's I mean, we have no
tradition to Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, you have my old Kentucky home a slow song
before the game starts or at the end of the
game too, at the end of the bad we got
to play it again. I mean we had the Grove
Street and then we didn't play at that one game,
and then we made sure to play it every game
after that. But I don't know, we'll try to workshop
maybe a better song to play after winds.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I mean, like Florida Football play is what won't
back down? Isn't that their thing?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Tom Petty? Ye, right, And that's old, but that's embraced
by the fan base.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh okay, then we just need to Okay, then there
you go. There's the problem. We need to embrace Dumas Walker.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay. So here's the fix.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We play Dumas Walker at the under four time out
right before the game's over. That is, everybody sings it together. Okay,
now there you get a communal.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
There you go, Now you hit it. The problem is
we're not embracing it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Imagine twenty thousand plus people in Rupperina all singing, let's
all go down to Doomas Walker.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
See that's a little bit better. That's that could be
intimidated a sly.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And a bottle of ski bringing on down to my
baby and meat. Come on, twenty thousand people singing that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That will give you chills, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, everybody just kind of like kicking the bleachers to
the beat and everything.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Look, anything can be cool if you make it cool.
You know, like twenty thousand people singing anything is cool.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't care if it's gingdam style or Dumas Walker.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well that is significantly less cooler than Doomas Walker. There,
we're not replacing it with Gingham style. Well, one person
on the text line said, for our senior prank, we
let all the air out of the bus tires and
tried to cancel school for everybody. Next thing, we knew
we were watching it on the.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
News, so they okay, I guess they did that before,
like in the morning. You wouldn't want to do it
in the afternoon because then you're not going to get
home unless you have They.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Go to like where all the buses are parked, and
then just I guess that was like under darkness, trying
to let the air out of the tires. It's pretty serious.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I wonder if it worked. Also, one person said, back
in the day in Rowan County Senior Skip day was
a cave run lake. Later in the day, the principal
drove a school bus and picked them up to drive
them back.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Wow, principal going above and beyond.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Huh, I guess so, I mean shout out to that
cool principle that was always made it more fun back
in the day when you had a teacher that kind
of understood you back then, Shanning, can you think of
one teacher that changed your life?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, I changed my life.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, No, we all have one teacher one well we
all don't the academic that helped you kind of find
your get to the next level.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, like I had, I had favorite teachers along the way,
most of them were in like elementary school. But no,
I didn't have a teacher that like changed my life.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Wow, you didn't have a coach like that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I had a coach.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, well you're not. You're not about it, don't never mind.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No it was It was fine. And didn't you ask him?
Did it change my life?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But they were they were fine.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I had an English teacher, miss ready changed my life, Shannon.
She got me into journalism. Was the head of the newspaper.
You know, that's kind of like what I got me
into my career.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
She was somebody that I think is you know, does
a thankless job. A lot of times I had teachers.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, I just kind of made the decision on my own.
I didn't have anybody tell me that's fine.
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Speaker 3 (20:50):
Let me ask you, Billy, what do you think? Yeah,
I don't know if it's out yet or not. I
haven't looked.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What do you think the spread for Kentucky Kentucky Indiana
will be on Saturday?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Kentucky's playing really bad. Yeah, I'm sure Vegas sees that,
but they're at home. Still, they're at home. I think
it's probably going to be close to a pick them.
I mean, I would probably give Kentucky a slight edge
just because they're at home, so maybe Kentucky two and
a half. Shannon, would you think Indiana is a favorite
in this game.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean, they probably should be, but with Kentucky being
at home, Kentucky is going to get one of these games. Okay,
They're not going to finish what oh, win six against
marquee opponents in the in the non conference.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I feel like this game on Saturday is a game that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Kentucky wins because I don't think they're gonna win against
Saint John's, but I think I think that they win
this game on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well that's a neutral site game, right, the Saint John's game.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
In Atlanta, Atlanta when we were supposed to go to.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Right, so you know, hopeful those fans can get a
better experience than the ones that went down to Nashville.
But look, you got to protect home court. I mean,
your toughness is being tested at this point, and so
this will be maybe a season defining game because if
you lose this one, I just really I just really
don't see a path for this team moving forward.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And if you'll let Indiana shoot seventeen of thirty one
from three, it's going to be ugly.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That guy hits ten thirties, and this just all came
out about Kentucky, you know, not get being able to
get over the finish line when it comes to a
lot of recruits. Then the noise is going to get loud.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
There's no butt a man on, Lamar Wilkerson. Do not
let him go off for forty four points like he
did against Penn State two nights ago.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
To you guys and Lamar, We're going to take some
phone calls on the other side of this break and
much more on the way here on the KOs appreciate
Welcome back Billy and the Dude here on the KSR
pre show. Some news breaking within the last hour. Kentucky
is set to hire Texas A and M defensive coordinator
Jay Bateman as its next defensive coordinator. Bateman is fifty
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two years old. Played linebacker back in the nineties. He
spent time in Army. He was the defensive coordinator there
for five seasons where they had a lot of success.
Was at North Carolina with Mack Brown coach linebackers at
Florida after that, and then Texas A and M defensive coordinator.
Looks like two coaches that are in the college football
playoff will now be joining Kentucky staff once they're runs in.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good thing that you got.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, a couple of guys who are in the
college football playoffs, which is where you're trying to get
as a program at Kentucky. You know, I'm not going
to sit here and pretend to be you know what,
do you know an expert on this, gay, I don't
know anything other than what we're talking about right now.
I mean, if I just look through Texas A and
M and what they've done this year, I would say that,
you know, I'm a little concerned about the amount of
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points that other teams have put up against Texas A
and M. Like Arkansas put forty two up against A
and M. Notre Dame scored forty against them. Yanks, let's
see thirty. They gave up thirty points to the South Carolina. So,
I mean, I don't know, just a few games. They're
just to give you an example, you know, and the
problem would be at Kentucky with stoops.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Okay, you don't have the offense to match that.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know, Texas A and M is in the footballlayoffs
because they've got a great offense. Not saying they're defense
isn't good. Not seeing this guy isn't going to work out.
But you know, if you give up those points at Kentucky,
you were losing every one of those games because your
offense couldn't keep up.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So Well became a head.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Coach at the FCS level at age twenty six and
then had a four year campaign that included just five wins.
So he is he is a journeyman. But will Stein
is filling out his staff. Joe Sloan is expected to
be the offensive coordinator from LSU, and now Jay Bateman
expecting to be the defensive coordinator. Let's take some calls
eight five nine two two two eight seven.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Who's up?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
First?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Dudes? Go to Jacob.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Jacob?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Hey, Billy, I just wanted to call and just talk
for a second about JMI. I think that I think
JMI is definitely like the whole contract with them is
just a complete mistake. I think that they're not good
at media, and so I don't know why we gave
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them the you know, the go ahead to cont role
are nil. I think we need to get out of
that deal. I don't know how we get out of
the deal. But we need to get out of that
twenty five year contract or whatever that craziness is. And
also I've heard from a couple different people online and
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otherwise that there's there's some high level people in the
athletic department that are married to some high level people
in the JMI, you know, JMI executives or whatever. And
if that's true, then we need to investigate that because
that's you know, that just screams impropriety to me. But
that's that's kind of my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay, Jacob, thank you for calling in this morning. We
appreciate you joining us. You know what really bugs me
the most, Shannon, And there should be some investigations into
all of this. But like the lack of clarity of
things right, like things can get fixed, Like I doubt
that this contract's just going to go away, So I like,
if both parties were motivated, they can make some adjustments
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that would make this better long term. So I don't
think it's just going to naturally go away. But like
when you get to the very end or in the
process and you don't know numbers and you're not able
to give direct answers, that is what would grind my
gears as a parent of a recruit or a recruit, Shannon,
that would deter me from going to Kentucky, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, I mean you're right. The lack of clarity. So
if you don't know something, you just fill in the
blanks with what you think it might be. And we've
been doing that a lot, fill the void, yeah, with
what you don't know. So I don't know why there's
not a clarity on the whole situation and how all
of this works. But there's almost like a stubbornness not
to tell us, And I don't know why, Like you
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could just explain it to us, like we're third graders
and we would all understand this and we all be good.
But instead there's a pushback on that, and it just seems,
I don't know, sort of strange to me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Explain it to me like I'm five years old. Yeah, right,
I mean we could use a little of that right now.
Let's take another call. Who's up next, dude, Joey Hey, Joy, Hey, Joey.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Hey, guys, good morning morning. Can you hear me? I'm
worried about the recruiting.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Man.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I don't know if you guys seen the other day,
Tying Stokes announced that after he came down to his
final three that Vanderbilt gave him an offer.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
And I don't think if Pope starts getting recruits, we
got to have him.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
I know you can win in the nil age.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
With going to the transfer portal, but you still need
to get a couple of recruits. You don't have to
have five or six, but one or two would do.
And as far as Stokes and the other kid, they
should already close it on those deals. Everybody on line saying,
you know, they should have closed a long time ago.
They shouldn't let it.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Linger this long. So maybe eventually you guys can get
somebody from JMI and get them on and make him
answer some questions for us, because we need to know
what's going on, because if he can't recruit and he
can't win, I mean, it's.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
Been a rough year. I don't know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I'm afraid we're.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Gonna fall off for about three years. And as far as.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
Saturday goes, if we don't win that game, guys, I
think it's over for the years.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
But that's about all I got, man.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Thanks all right, thank you appreciate the call. I can't
help but think he's somewhat right about that last point
about it. If they lose Indiana, it's going to be
a really tough road coming back. I mean, conference play
is not going to be easy. Even though it's SEC
is not the same. Yeah, you know, regardless of knowing
these dirty details about what's been going on behind the scenes,
this is a really important cycle for Mark Pope to
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get these guys. Last year he was able to prove
that he could get to the Kentucky guys right and
then build through the transfer portal. But can he land
some of these top recruits in the country. That's still
to be seen, as Kentucky doesn't have a single recruit
in the twenty twenty six class.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Right, That's been the knock. You know, can he get
these top five star guys? But you know, we had
a coach who got them all. It felt like for
a long time, and people were saying, well, you know,
we want guys that are going to stay here longer.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You know, we're tired of these one and done guys.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We want guys who will stay here and represent Kentucky
for three or four years. And that sort of just
became a thing in the past. Then Nil came around Billy,
and now you see players sticking around longer because of
the money. Now they're motivated. Now, yeah, they have a
reason to stick around for two or three years. So,
I mean, I don't know, can you have it both ways?
I guess you can if you mix in some of
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these guys who are two to three maybe even four
year players, you know, with five star players who.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Are wont and Dones.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I think that that's probably the best way to do it.
The problem is Pope hasn't been able to get a
one done yet.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And even in a world where money rules, Kentucky should
be the team that's getting the best recruits still. I mean,
with a twenty two million dollar roster, they theoretically have
more money to offer. And even if you think that
Vandy or a team like Vandy can come in and
offer money and playing time, Kentucky Shills should be the
appeal to the number one player in the class. Now
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Vandy and they're playing time. I mean, obviy, I get
but basketball too. I mean, you guys are getting a
little too big for yourself.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Let me ask you something. Have you looked at the
basketball sec standing.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
No, I have not.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You want to know what you want to know? Who's
the undefeated team in the SEC right now? Vanderbilt basketball? No, no, no,
what a world?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
What kind of upside down world are we living in?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right now you got to be loving it over there,
mister Doores.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
It's it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I mean, as a fan of the basketball team, who
was you know? They were good? I guess during the
Stallings era, But there I don't know. I mean, I'll
wait and see. I'm kind of like Kentucky basketball. I
want to wait and see. You know what happens when
we get into the conference play. But right now they're
playing pretty well. They've had some quality wins. But what
happens when they get into the conference we'll find out
if they're.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Really good or not.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
One person that's not going to be sticking around is
former Michigan head coach Sharon Moore, who was fired yesterday
for cause after the university found evidence that Moore had
an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. Moore was later arrested
yesterday for an alleged assault and was detained by police.
Shannon and This is a bizarre story of a head
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football coach of one of the biggest programs in the country.
This was like wildfire yesterday.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, he was fired, then he was arrested.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I mean, it's it's a crazy day, right for a coach,
and you think, you know, he's uh, he's your coach,
and then all of a sudden, he's gone.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And then not only is he gone, he's in jail.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, and and you know what is being alleged online.
I'm not going to repeat, and it is very dark. Yeah,
it is a very bad situation. But nevertheless, this is
really bad timing when it comes to the coaching cycle.
I mean, if you think about Michigan that everybody's either
been re signed or gotten a new job, Shanna, it
might be really tough for Michigan to find the right
person as the transfer portal is really just around the
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corner right now at this point in the timing of
all it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I mean, there's not a whole lot of options,
I don't think right now unless they want to bring
somebody out of retirement, you know, to coach Michigan go
to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, I mean that is a yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That is an attractive job though, coaching at Michigan.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
So yeah, I mean that had been right behind lsu
as maybe the most attractive in the cycle. But it
comes out a little late and Michigan will be looking
to pick up the pieces again. I mean, that was
the guy that was already involved in the science stealings stuff.
So I mean, yeah, not great going on over there
for Michigan. Let's take another call, dude, who's up next?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Adam?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hey, Adam, what's up?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Like senior prank. I don't know where I heard this from.
I thought it was somewhere in Kentucky. But so you
take three pigs, do you write the numbers one, two,
and four on the three pigs? You release them in
the school, and then the staff spends the entire time
looking for number three.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I've heard that one before.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, but I like that the psychological prank more than
like the posted notes on a car or you know,
I don't know, orby's in the car.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You've seen that, Shannon, Yes, yeah, yeah. By the way,
Calas can't walk downstairs.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
According to Google, I saw that cows have a hard
time walking downstairs. So it's not just like cut and dry, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So it says right here, cows can walk downstairs. Well,
we know you're the googler of the bunch. Actually, I'm
just telling you what Google says. I haven't walked a
cow downstairs recently.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I'm not like I didn't just make that up. So
like there must be obviously an issue with cows and
going downstairs.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
So okay, well you want to go get a cow
and walking downstairs.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna hold the line on that. I'm just not gonnect.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Let's go get a Let's go Google. Let's go get
a cow tomorrow in summerset. We'll see how well it
walks upstairs.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Then we'll take you downstairs.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, Well, I'll walk it up the stairs, you
worry about getting it down Shannon. Since you're so confident,
let's go to the phones one more time. We'll take
a break here, all right, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Go to Casey. Oh hey, Casey, Hey fella, good morning.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
So not why I called, But I think the reason
why people always say can you hear me? Is because
there's a little bell you here right at Chane and
calls your name, So if you hear that bell, they
can hear you. But the reason I called, Shannon, I
think you and nail on the head I don't think
that we are Kentucky is enough anymore in the world
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of NIL. So my question is, if Mitch goes away,
can we make j and my goalway too, Because if
that's the case, thanks for everything that. Don't let the
door hit you or the Good Lord split you. Like
what are we doing. We need to be the unmatched
gold standards in all aspects of college basketball because we
is Kentucky. Anything else is just unacceptable. And that's all
of God. I hope everyone is having a wonderful Christmas
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season and we're praying for you, Matt, Larry, and Karen.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Thanks for the call, Casey, Thank you, Casey. Yeah, I
think you know JMI is not going away. I think
they're here to stay, Yeah, through the duration of the contract.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Mitch.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't know how long he's going to be here,
you know, we keep hearing reports that he may not
be here for the next season.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That remains to be seen. But JMI, I think is
here to stay regardless.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, the multimedia rights agreement is four hundred and sixty
five million dollars. But I think what the issue for
a lot of people is the bb NIL suite that
serves as Kentucky's in house NIL collect if that is
something that Kentucky is doing that nobody else I think
in the entire country is doing, Shannon, when it comes
to the way they're operating ANIL, So, are you gonna
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get rid of JM? I no, Like this is a
relationship that can work, but it's gonna need some adjustment
obviously when it comes to how NIL works. If you
believe some of the reporting that we've seen over the
last day or so, we need to take break though.
Eight five nine two a doh two two eight seven
Thursday edition of the KSR pre Show, and we will
be right back. Welcome back. It's the KSR pre Show.
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Billy and the Dude cows don't like going downstairs? Maybe
can they physically go downstairs?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yes? Y can.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'm glad we settled it.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm glad you've found the distinction there A five nine
two ah two two eight seven. Shout out to Shay Gilgess,
Alexander Man. The Oklahoma City Thunder are twenty four and one.
They beat the Suns last night one thirty eight to
eighty nine, and Shay gild just had his ninety sixth
straight game with twenty plus points.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Shannon, that's consistency right there. Ah, my god, that is crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I mean, what he is doing at the NBA, in
the NBA at that level is just I mean, is
that more of the more impressive things you've heard from
a former Cat in the NBA in what a decade
or a long.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, it is, I mean, besides maybe Anthony Davis being
able to win at all different types of level like
he did the National Championship, the NBA Championship, and Olympic
gold medal. But what Shay is doing, he is, no doubt,
I think, the best player in the NBA right now,
and that twenty four and one start is tied for
the best start ever to an NBA season, of course,
tying the Golden State Warriors from a few years ago.
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So they are on the cusp of history possibly this
year with how good that they're playing. So fun to
watch former Cats Caseen Wallace and Shay gilligis Alexander a
little bit last night?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, the the was a Bulls team that only lost
what seven or eight games or something like that back
in the Warriors Warriors did of the Bulls I think
the Bulls did too. Yeah, well, was it the Warriors.
Did they tie the Bulls record or did they beat them?
Because I remember the Warriors were gunning for the Bulls
record and then they did what they did and then.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Lost, I believe in the title game. But yeah, I
mean that was there were some great teams back in
those Bulls days.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Let's see they they were. They were seventy and ten.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Seventy and ten, and then Warriors went seventy three and nine.
So there, now we will see what o case he
can do. Let's take another call. Who's up next, dude, Well,
let's go to Larry Hey.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Larry Hey, you know, just a ilsop. I'm for just
whatever it is we involved in. Uh, I'm just gonna
kind of scrap us down. You know, I read it
too last name online where you know that they have.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
The last say.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So you know, if we don't get no you know
fint with Cali is I had a problem to get
five of them. I get two one of Don's you
can live with it, but you get five, you know,
but we need at least get one player this year,
one blue chip at guard. We've been on all this time,
and guys, I mean that that the vangerbild are slipping
in on him.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
They've got a hag of.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Recruit plass uh uh through four top one hundred players,
you know, and to tell you don't want to slip
down below them. I mean, we're home sports programs coming up.
But but you know the thing with Cal when he
was here, what I had caught with he would have
five and the kids wasn't ready that he would still
set them off, just like when Shepherd and Dylan Hamm
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they were coming off the bench. Hey, Wagner was a starter. No, no,
nothing against Wagner, but Wagner is still in college right now. Guys,
So Cal he cared more about Joe and tail morning.
Does you know the program. That's what really taught me
by him when we got Shade sharp turn that bench
the whole year. That was a final nail for me too.
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And uh you know. But but anyway, guys, I always
uh Mark Pope luck. But he's got to win Saturday,
and he's got to get us a player that you
know we're used to get, you know, one or two players.
I mean, you don't want to have five.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, I think the solution is you get you know
one or two want of done type guys and then
filling the rest with guys who will stick around for
you know, two, three, four years, those type of players
that we already have on the team, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
With the transfer portal. I think that's more important than
even maybe going into the high school ranks. A lot
of times if you can get the right talent. One
person in the text line this made me laugh said,
I don't know why people are so upset that we're
not winning up till Saturday's game. Tyler Perry and Pope
have the same exact record for the same amount of
games in two years. I think that's Cali Perry that
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is autocorrected to Tyler Perry. Okay, Tyler Perry, because I
was thinking, I had to think for a second, Tyler Perry,
did he? I mean, what's what kind of what's his
coaching record right now? But that obviously an auto correct Shannon,
if you had an autocorrect moment in the past.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, plenty of them. The good thing is
now on iPhones you can go back.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And edit those.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, be quick, but they'll never notice.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, it shows the edit though, it shows the edit
that you make.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, I know it shows on Twitter. Does it show
it on text too.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I think it does.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
And they still see the mistake. I did this one
thing where like I took a picture of a group
chat about somebody or like it was like I think
I was trying to show somebody something that somebody had
sent me, and then I sent it to that person
instead of the person I was trying to send it to.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
You can't you can't delete it.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Then.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't know if I've I talked to them since,
like it ended everything.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You just never talked to them again. I was just
did they reply?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Oh yeah, they replied, and they were like, what the
bleep is this?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And I just I did not like you, just like
like you died in that moment.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, heard from Well that was a fraternity brother, So
I mean I still saw them, but it was it
was definitely strained after that. Uh, we have time for
this last call.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Well you got about a minute.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Uh go ahead, fake red, fake red?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, y'all are talking about dad.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Uh. That guy going to jail reminded me of my
good friend Andy dw Frayne. We locked up being charge
any prison together.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I don't know what you got a whole wallet run,
but I know what Andy wish.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Had and Okay, do you want to hear any more
of that?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, you do want to hear that?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, bring fake Red back, fake Red. You're still there,
I am. You got like twenty seconds, give me more.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
You don't have twenty seconds. No, we're done with fake Red.
I got no, we're done with that. I'm making a decision.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Well, then go ahead and end the show though.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
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code ks are. All right, we're in Summerset tomorrow, Billy.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right, we are pending the snow. We'll see if we
can make it there. But that is supposed to be
there at Don Franklin, I believe.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
All right, we'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
All right for chanting the Dude and Billy Rutlis. We'll
talk you tomorrow
Welcome everyone to another edition of the KASR pre Show.
Today is Thursday, December eleventh. I'm Billy Rutligs along with
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by Italics. Find Italian Dining in Lexington, Kentucky, at the
City Center on Main Street. That's where I'm at today
here on the seventh floor. Shannon the Dude is in Louisville.
I was just talking a little weather with my guy
the Dude. I guess it's supposed to snow tonight. Shannon,
you're going to be watching your newscast tomorrow morning to
see if you have to go to school tomorrow with that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I know, right, that's the thing. I used to love
snow when I was a kid. I still do, I
guess now. But you know you would pray for snow
so you wouldn't have to go to school the next day,
especially on a Friday, where you could get a three
day weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Out of it. The only thing goes. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Usually we have to go to work when it snows.
Although we were just talking, you know, depending on which
meteorologists you believe, some of them are saying like two
to four inches, and I was like, well, we're gonna
be driving through four inches of snow tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
The summerset.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I don't know, like we gotta we gotta talk about
these things, maybe not necessarily on the air, but some
stuff that we got to you know, take into consideration.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, somebody's gonna have to make that call. But nevertheless,
I have fond memories of turning on my local news
and watching the ticker at the bottom. Wasn't old enough
for having the radio announcements, but did enjoy that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So great thing about Bullet County is if it snowed
at like a flake, you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Were out the back roads like shit went down.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Like on a snow night.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
If somebody went out and peed in the road and
it froze, they would say, all right, school's out, it's done.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Nobody go same thing in Oldham County. It's just a
dusting and they would have to close. Well, we've got
a big show today. We'd love to hear from you.
Eight five, nine two eight h two two eight seven.
Kentucky just hired a defensive coordinator maybe thirty minutes ago.
We'll touch on that in a second. Some dry in
the world of college football when it comes to the
Michigan head coach. And it's a game day edition of
the KSR Pre Show, as we have Kentucky volleyball in
(02:08):
the Sweet sixteen today versus cal Poly, who Shannon is
a dangerous twelve seed, beat two pretty good teams to
get to this point, and now Craig Skinner has got
another other matchup today at three point thirty pm Historical
Memorial Coliseum. So wishing nothing but the best for the
Ksrpre Show guest.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Thanks, Yeah, hopefully they have a good crowd out there.
I haven't seen the ticket sell so I don't know
if it's sold out yet or not. Hopefully it is
though for that team, because they deserve it. They played
so well all year. But you're right, you don't want
to just overlook a team because they're at twelve seed.
Two teams already did and they're already out of the tournament.
So you can't take this team coming in cal Poly
lightly today. Three point thirty is when it all gets
(02:47):
going and best a look to the volleyball team.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, no doubt, Brooklyn Delay, Eva Hudson, all those ladies.
We are wishing you nothing but the best today. Kentucky
the number two overall seed in the tournament, so let's
take care of business and then make the region final
in the Elite eight coming up this weekend. But that
again is at three thirty pm. I think it's like
thirty minutes after the first game. So just you know,
just play a little hooky from workshin right.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, if you can get away with it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I think that's probably what a lot of people were
having to do to be able to get out of
work today to go watch that game.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did you ever have a senior skip day back in
the day we're talking high school this morning.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, we did, But you know, I don't know that
I did it though, because I feelt I would have
gotten in trouble with my parents. I don't think they
would just let me off the hook like my cool day.
My parents were very dolled in to like what I
was doing.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
So where you were, Yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I wasn't running all over the place when I was
in high school. I was most of the time at home,
So I don't think I actually got to have a
senior skip day.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, and kind of like right after I graduated high school,
they were very adamant about calling your parents if you
were to miss school and things like that. So it
wasn't just a marked absence if you didn't show up,
it was you know, where is he? Let's alert everybody
that he's not here. That's not as fun.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
See, I was always afraid of what might happen if
I did that.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I'm going to hold your diplomas what I heard They're like, well, no,
no graduation.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well I'm not talking about worried about what the school
would do. I'm talking about like what my dad, you're
worried about out?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I was more worried about that than I was what
the school might do. I wouldn't care hold my diploma
like you think I'm never gonna get it because I
skipped it one day.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, I guess it wasn't senior skip day that they
would hold the diploma for. It was more like like
the the what was it, the class prank? The senior prank?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh yeah, do yep.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And I don't think we really had a good one
for mine. Like I hear these stories of like putting
a cow on the second floor, and you know, cows
can't go downstairsh in, And so how you're going to
get that damn thing off the room?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
How'd you get it up there to begin with? Is
what I want to know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, they can walk upstairs, but they can't go down.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I was thinking, hold on, a man, I didn't
even know this.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I believe. So again, we I talk, you know, we
talk about things. We don't know a lot yet. But
I believe if you bring a cow upstairs, they can't
go down. So if you were to bring like a
cow onto the second floor roof of a school, yeah,
it's like really really hard to get down.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
That's something I never knew.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well again, farmer, Billy or sports here to tell you
about cows?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Why can't they go downstairs?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
They gonna fight tump over, I don't know, start rolling
down the stairs.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You had to ask them, and they're fears of stairs
or whatever it may be. So you didn't have a
class prank or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean, I guess maybe like some of the other
I guess I was boring in high school.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I don't really have any great year.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm afraid of what mom and dad are gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, I guess I don't have any good high school
stories really, m Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I wish I guess make something up.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We used to love the movie theater or just going
and parking our cars in a parking lot.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, and that's what we would do.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I don't know what you did back in the day.
We would go meet up in a parking lot and
just like park all our cars. That was just the
fun of being sixteen, right and having your driver's license.
And that kind of comes off the heels of a
story you guys talked about on KSR yesterday where Australia
has panned social media for everybody under sixteen and I'm
all for freedom, Shannon, And I was on social media
(06:02):
under sixteen, but I wish I wasn't, And honestly, I
think this is a pretty good move. And I think
you agreed with me.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
I do.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean, look, we already have situations where if you're
under a certain age, you can't go watch a RATEDAR
movie without a parent, right, So I mean, yeah, I'm
forgiving people their freedom, but I'm also like we're talking
about kids here who need to be protected from a lot.
I mean, we have a saying yesterday on KSR. Being
on social media as an adult is not good for
your mental health. Now, I imagine you're, you know, thirteen,
(06:32):
fourteen whatever, and you got somebody bullying you or you know,
telling you bad, you know, awful things, and it's hard
to process that. So yeah, I would be for that.
I don't think that anybody under sixteen really needs to
be on social media.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, you get your whole life ahead of you to
get on MySpace, Shannon to my friends on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He's been on MySpace in fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, Tom was on MySpace. Not Tom Leech or Tom Harp,
but Tom. You remember Tom back in the day in
my space, he was like your one friend.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, he was like looking at like a you know,
he was sitting there in a white T shirt and
a whiteboard behind him and he's looking over his shoulder
with two thumbs up.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, I think I've got that his profile picture burned
into my brain.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Very influential person in my childhood. And then you'd have
to rank your top eight and then your friends would
be mad and things like that, and maybe that's why
we don't let kids have social media. But on a
serious note, there is a mental health epidemic going on
and this maybe would go a long way to helping
Australia with that. Another thing on ks are the other
last couple days or so gym's in airports? Shannon, what
(07:37):
are we thinking? What are we thinking? You really want
to be next to some sweaty guy that just went
through an hour on the elliptical so before.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You put in a shower.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean you act like I'm not sitting next to
sweaty people already on planes. I mean, come on, every
time I get on a plane at somebody who's sweaty
and you know, taking up my armrest and like all
up in my space. I don't think there's any different.
There's already people sweating all over me when I get
on a plane.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well now just add the heavy breathing and the protein
shake and chicken that they're trying to eat to get
their protein in.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
You know, i'd before that, you know, especially if you've
got a layover. I mean, I really that's the one
reason in it.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Though.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm not going to the terminal to go work out,
but you know, if I'm on a layover and I've
got to sit there for six hours. Maybe I'll go
over to the chilies too, drink a couple of beers,
and then go sweat out that beer, do some chin ups,
some push ups.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, crches.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
If they're adding playgrounds to airports, that is the adult
playground is the Chili's at your local cleaner sport, going
to get an airport beer before you take off or
maybe right after you land. So it seems like they're
changing a lot in airports. But it's good if we
distracted children. I mean, look over here, kid, there's a
playground over here. Stop screaming, Shannon. I think the biggest
(08:51):
news of the day has to be the reporting done
by Jacob Polochik and Jack Pilgrim. I want to commend
them for the article that they released on KSR yesterday,
really a deep dive into the recruiting with Kentucky basketball,
the involvement with JMI after signing that deal through twenty
forty for four hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Dollars, good grief, man.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't know how you look at that and say
that's a good deal, especially when you look at all
the hurdles that Kentucky has had to jump over to
be able to pull in some recruits, and we haven't
really done that at all, especially for the twenty sixth class.
And it's because of this contract that JAMI has that
a lot of players just aren't willing to sign because
(09:35):
other schools don't have sort of the same verbiage in
the contract. So JMI is really, as we're finding out
if you read this article, is really interfering with recruiting,
and you're wonder why Kentucky hasn't getting some of these
big time commitments. JMI, I think has a lot to
do with that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Billy Well, I would employ everybody to read the article
by Jacob and Jack. There's a lot of details about
really not just one thing that's holding Kentucky back, but
there are some major things that are making it much
more difficult. Kentucky doesn't have a player yet signed in
the class of twenty twenty six and one of those
reasons my maybe jmi's involvement negative recruiting going on in
(10:16):
the process. Mark Pope and his emotions at the closing
table of some of these deals, Shannon, I mean, some
of these stories and quotes, I mean are really interesting
one person says, I will say that Kentucky is the
only school that I've dealt with that even has anything
remotely like this in their contracts when it comes to
JMI and their whole UK having their collective in house
(10:39):
with JMI in that limiting what athletes and who they
can sign with. If you sign with JMI and UK,
I mean, prospective student athletes have to sign away nil
rights that would normally not be touched at other schools.
So if you're at the negotiating table and Kentucky has
all these restraints compared to a different school, I could
(11:01):
absolutely seeing that impacting the process, can't you.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Right, And if you're a player that's being recruited by Kentucky,
you're likely a same player that's being recruited by other
blue blood schools out there as well, Billy, So let's
just say I'm being recruited by Kentucky, North Carolina, and Duke.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, And it's in my mind.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I don't have any you know, personal allegiance to any
of these schools, But I'm just looking at the contract
that's in front of me, and I see two of
the three schools don't have any restrictions, and I look
at this other school, this one being Kentucky, and I
look at the JMI literature that's in the contract, and
I see stuff in there that I don't like that's
going to restrict me and restrict nil opportunities that I
(11:43):
would have. I think immediately you would just eliminate that
school and go, well, I'm either going to North Carolina
or Duke. And I think that's a lot of what's
happening here when it comes to recruiting for Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, a big part of that is in the article,
the lack of clarity and direct answers that some of
these recruits are getting at the table. How much money
am I going to get? Well, I mean, we could
get you this or how can we get you to
That is kind of the conversations Kentucky is having, allegedly
compared to other schools that will come to a recruit
and say you're going to get this much. Yep, you're
going to get this and this.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
It's cut and dry, it's easy. I mean, why would
you go through an unnecessary roadblock if you don't have to?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Right and if those numbers do eventually come but it's
late in the process. Shannon I mean, how much you
know that that's going to impact people trying to make
the most important decision of their lives. Yep, it just is.
Now there's also part of Mark Pope. At the end
of these processes. You know, when you're going for these
big fish and other schools, you know up their offer
(12:42):
or a recruit revises a demand. Apparently, you know, Mark
Pope does the this is Kentucky approach. Why would we
get into a bidding war with some of these athletes
when we are Kentucky, we are the gold standard. You know,
we heard a little bit of that with cal But
somebody that is very emotional after a tough loss also
(13:03):
seems like is bringing that emotion over to the recruiting price.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
This is Kentucky argument does not work in my opinion,
in the world of nio that we now live in.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Maybe before when it was just you're.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Gonna come here, you're gonna get a good education, scholarship,
have an opportunity to you know, we can sell you
on the NBA. Look at all the former players that
now are in the NBA making millions of dollars. But
now you got players making great money at the college level.
So the argument of this is Kentucky. I don't think
(13:35):
works anymore. Sure, it's still a blue blood, but Billy,
I mean, we're talking about kids coming out of high
school and having a ton of money thrown at them.
I don't care who you are. I don't care that
you're Kentucky. I've got this other school over here, who's
also a great school, who is offering me a lot
of money, and I'm going for the money. I can't
(13:56):
blame a kid coming out of high school making that decision.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I would too. You're Kentucky, Okay, so what good for you?
Good luck? I'm going over here. It's not you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, Well it's not a factor. Well it's it's not
not a factor anymore. I mean, Kentucky is still Kentucky.
There's going to be that appeal. There's nothing like this
fan base and this program. But at the same time,
it is much less valuable than what it used to be.
I mean, like the money is. It's just completely different.
When it's all above board and you can just use
(14:26):
that as your recruiting pitch. Initially the man has to
you can walk through the front door with the money
instead of the back door. Shannon that's the difference. Now.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I mean imagine like coming out of high school, Billy,
you put yourself back in high school.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And we'll just go low.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
We'll just say there's a school of harving you one
hundred thousand dollars. Can you imagine at seventeen being offered
one hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No, in life, shame exactly in your mind.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Now, in reality, one hundred thousand dollars doesn't go nearly
as far as it used to, and it's not really
much money, But to a seventeen year old kid, that
is a lot of money, you know, for some like
me who didn't even have a job at that age, right,
and somebody saying, here's one hundred thousand dollars, I'm going
where the money is. You know, I can still get
to the NBA plan for another school. I don't have
(15:10):
to go to Kentucky to get to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Well, the money's a big part of this, because Kentucky,
with the reported twenty two million dollar roster, should have
enough money to pay for whoever they want.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, but it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Doesn't seem like it's been allocated in maybe the best way.
And that twenty two million dollar figure is also being
used in negative recruiting against Mark Pope in Kentucky, and so,
I mean, you have to expect that, but to see
that in writing is also discouraging. But you know, very
good article by Polchick and Pilgrim. I would employ you
to check it out at KSR Kentucky Sports Radio dot com.
(15:43):
A lot of details about why, maybe the reason why
Kentucky doesn't have a recruit in the twenty twenty six class.
Yet we want to hear from you. What are your
thoughts eight five nine two eight h two two eight
seven Texas at five oh two two sixty five six
six five six what would you do to replace Dumas
Walker after a Kentucky basket that's coming up next here
on the case. I appreciate it does feel like Kentucky
(16:05):
just won something, though, like my body has been trained
to hear that song and and think of a win. Shannon,
but that a good thing?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't know, Yeah, I think so. I love the
Kentucky head Hunters. Those they're great dudes, by the way,
love those guys. I've had a chance to talk to
him and interview him a few times.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Great, But it's just it's just not the most modern
thing that Kentucky does. And we've been talking about that
a little bit over the past week or so.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, but here's the thing, Like we talk about tradition
all the time, and then we have a tradition of
playing Dumas Walker and everybody what's to get rid of it?
So I mean, like that's I mean, we have no
tradition to Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, you have my old Kentucky home a slow song
before the game starts or at the end of the
game too, at the end of the bad we got
to play it again. I mean we had the Grove
Street and then we didn't play at that one game,
and then we made sure to play it every game
after that. But I don't know, we'll try to workshop
maybe a better song to play after winds.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I mean, like Florida Football play is what won't
back down? Isn't that their thing?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Tom Petty? Ye, right, And that's old, but that's embraced
by the fan base.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Oh okay, then we just need to Okay, then there
you go. There's the problem. We need to embrace Dumas Walker.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay. So here's the fix.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We play Dumas Walker at the under four time out
right before the game's over. That is, everybody sings it together. Okay,
now there you get a communal.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
There you go, Now you hit it. The problem is
we're not embracing it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Imagine twenty thousand plus people in Rupperina all singing, let's
all go down to Doomas Walker.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
See that's a little bit better. That's that could be
intimidated a sly.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And a bottle of ski bringing on down to my
baby and meat. Come on, twenty thousand people singing that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
That will give you chills, wouldn't it.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, everybody just kind of like kicking the bleachers to
the beat and everything.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Look, anything can be cool if you make it cool.
You know, like twenty thousand people singing anything is cool.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I don't care if it's gingdam style or Dumas Walker.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well that is significantly less cooler than Doomas Walker. There,
we're not replacing it with Gingham style. Well, one person
on the text line said, for our senior prank, we
let all the air out of the bus tires and
tried to cancel school for everybody. Next thing, we knew
we were watching it on the.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
News, so they okay, I guess they did that before,
like in the morning. You wouldn't want to do it
in the afternoon because then you're not going to get
home unless you have They.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Go to like where all the buses are parked, and
then just I guess that was like under darkness, trying
to let the air out of the tires. It's pretty serious.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I wonder if it worked. Also, one person said, back
in the day in Rowan County Senior Skip day was
a cave run lake. Later in the day, the principal
drove a school bus and picked them up to drive
them back.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Wow, principal going above and beyond.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Huh, I guess so, I mean shout out to that
cool principle that was always made it more fun back
in the day when you had a teacher that kind
of understood you back then, Shanning, can you think of
one teacher that changed your life?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
No, I changed my life.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, No, we all have one teacher one well we
all don't the academic that helped you kind of find
your get to the next level.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, like I had, I had favorite teachers along the way,
most of them were in like elementary school. But no,
I didn't have a teacher that like changed my life.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Wow, you didn't have a coach like that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I had a coach.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Okay, well you're not. You're not about it, don't never mind.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No it was It was fine. And didn't you ask him?
Did it change my life?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
But they were they were fine.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I had an English teacher, miss ready changed my life, Shannon.
She got me into journalism. Was the head of the newspaper.
You know, that's kind of like what I got me
into my career.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
She was somebody that I think is you know, does
a thankless job. A lot of times I had teachers.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, I just kind of made the decision on my own.
I didn't have anybody tell me that's fine.
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Speaker 3 (20:50):
Let me ask you, Billy, what do you think? Yeah,
I don't know if it's out yet or not. I
haven't looked.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
What do you think the spread for Kentucky Kentucky Indiana
will be on Saturday?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Kentucky's playing really bad. Yeah, I'm sure Vegas sees that,
but they're at home. Still, they're at home. I think
it's probably going to be close to a pick them.
I mean, I would probably give Kentucky a slight edge
just because they're at home, so maybe Kentucky two and
a half. Shannon, would you think Indiana is a favorite
in this game.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I mean, they probably should be, but with Kentucky being
at home, Kentucky is going to get one of these games. Okay,
They're not going to finish what oh, win six against
marquee opponents in the in the non conference.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I feel like this game on Saturday is a game that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Kentucky wins because I don't think they're gonna win against
Saint John's, but I think I think that they win
this game on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well that's a neutral site game, right, the Saint John's game.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
In Atlanta, Atlanta when we were supposed to go to.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Right, so you know, hopeful those fans can get a
better experience than the ones that went down to Nashville.
But look, you got to protect home court. I mean,
your toughness is being tested at this point, and so
this will be maybe a season defining game because if
you lose this one, I just really I just really
don't see a path for this team moving forward.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And if you'll let Indiana shoot seventeen of thirty one
from three, it's going to be ugly.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That guy hits ten thirties, and this just all came
out about Kentucky, you know, not get being able to
get over the finish line when it comes to a
lot of recruits. Then the noise is going to get loud.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
There's no butt a man on, Lamar Wilkerson. Do not
let him go off for forty four points like he
did against Penn State two nights ago.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
To you guys and Lamar, We're going to take some
phone calls on the other side of this break and
much more on the way here on the KOs appreciate
Welcome back Billy and the Dude here on the KSR
pre show. Some news breaking within the last hour. Kentucky
is set to hire Texas A and M defensive coordinator
Jay Bateman as its next defensive coordinator. Bateman is fifty
(22:43):
two years old. Played linebacker back in the nineties. He
spent time in Army. He was the defensive coordinator there
for five seasons where they had a lot of success.
Was at North Carolina with Mack Brown coach linebackers at
Florida after that, and then Texas A and M defensive coordinator.
Looks like two coaches that are in the college football
playoff will now be joining Kentucky staff once they're runs in.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good thing that you got.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
You know, a couple of guys who are in the
college football playoffs, which is where you're trying to get
as a program at Kentucky. You know, I'm not going
to sit here and pretend to be you know what,
do you know an expert on this, gay, I don't
know anything other than what we're talking about right now.
I mean, if I just look through Texas A and
M and what they've done this year, I would say that,
you know, I'm a little concerned about the amount of
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points that other teams have put up against Texas A
and M. Like Arkansas put forty two up against A
and M. Notre Dame scored forty against them. Yanks, let's
see thirty. They gave up thirty points to the South Carolina. So,
I mean, I don't know, just a few games. They're
just to give you an example, you know, and the
problem would be at Kentucky with stoops.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Okay, you don't have the offense to match that.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know, Texas A and M is in the footballlayoffs
because they've got a great offense. Not saying they're defense
isn't good. Not seeing this guy isn't going to work out.
But you know, if you give up those points at Kentucky,
you were losing every one of those games because your
offense couldn't keep up.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So Well became a head.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Coach at the FCS level at age twenty six and
then had a four year campaign that included just five wins.
So he is he is a journeyman. But will Stein
is filling out his staff. Joe Sloan is expected to
be the offensive coordinator from LSU, and now Jay Bateman
expecting to be the defensive coordinator. Let's take some calls
eight five nine two two two eight seven.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Who's up?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
First?
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Dudes? Go to Jacob.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Jacob?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Hey, Billy, I just wanted to call and just talk
for a second about JMI. I think that I think
JMI is definitely like the whole contract with them is
just a complete mistake. I think that they're not good
at media, and so I don't know why we gave
(24:57):
them the you know, the go ahead to cont role
are nil. I think we need to get out of
that deal. I don't know how we get out of
the deal. But we need to get out of that
twenty five year contract or whatever that craziness is. And
also I've heard from a couple different people online and
(25:19):
otherwise that there's there's some high level people in the
athletic department that are married to some high level people
in the JMI, you know, JMI executives or whatever. And
if that's true, then we need to investigate that because
that's you know, that just screams impropriety to me. But
that's that's kind of my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Okay, Jacob, thank you for calling in this morning. We
appreciate you joining us. You know what really bugs me
the most, Shannon, And there should be some investigations into
all of this. But like the lack of clarity of
things right, like things can get fixed, Like I doubt
that this contract's just going to go away, So I like,
if both parties were motivated, they can make some adjustments
(26:02):
that would make this better long term. So I don't
think it's just going to naturally go away. But like
when you get to the very end or in the
process and you don't know numbers and you're not able
to give direct answers, that is what would grind my
gears as a parent of a recruit or a recruit, Shannon,
that would deter me from going to Kentucky, don't you think.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, I mean you're right. The lack of clarity. So
if you don't know something, you just fill in the
blanks with what you think it might be. And we've
been doing that a lot, fill the void, yeah, with
what you don't know. So I don't know why there's
not a clarity on the whole situation and how all
of this works. But there's almost like a stubbornness not
to tell us, And I don't know why, Like you
(26:40):
could just explain it to us, like we're third graders
and we would all understand this and we all be good.
But instead there's a pushback on that, and it just seems,
I don't know, sort of strange to me.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Explain it to me like I'm five years old. Yeah, right,
I mean we could use a little of that right now.
Let's take another call. Who's up next, dude, Joey Hey, Joy, Hey, Joey.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Hey, guys, good morning morning. Can you hear me? I'm
worried about the recruiting.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Man.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I don't know if you guys seen the other day,
Tying Stokes announced that after he came down to his
final three that Vanderbilt gave him an offer.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
And I don't think if Pope starts getting recruits, we
got to have him.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
I know you can win in the nil age.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
With going to the transfer portal, but you still need
to get a couple of recruits. You don't have to
have five or six, but one or two would do.
And as far as Stokes and the other kid, they
should already close it on those deals. Everybody on line saying,
you know, they should have closed a long time ago.
They shouldn't let it.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Linger this long. So maybe eventually you guys can get
somebody from JMI and get them on and make him
answer some questions for us, because we need to know
what's going on, because if he can't recruit and he
can't win, I mean, it's.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
Been a rough year. I don't know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I'm afraid we're.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Gonna fall off for about three years. And as far as.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
Saturday goes, if we don't win that game, guys, I
think it's over for the years.
Speaker 9 (28:05):
But that's about all I got, man.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Thanks all right, thank you appreciate the call. I can't
help but think he's somewhat right about that last point
about it. If they lose Indiana, it's going to be
a really tough road coming back. I mean, conference play
is not going to be easy. Even though it's SEC
is not the same. Yeah, you know, regardless of knowing
these dirty details about what's been going on behind the scenes,
this is a really important cycle for Mark Pope to
(28:28):
get these guys. Last year he was able to prove
that he could get to the Kentucky guys right and
then build through the transfer portal. But can he land
some of these top recruits in the country. That's still
to be seen, as Kentucky doesn't have a single recruit
in the twenty twenty six class.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Right, That's been the knock. You know, can he get
these top five star guys? But you know, we had
a coach who got them all. It felt like for
a long time, and people were saying, well, you know,
we want guys that are going to stay here longer.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
We don't.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
You know, we're tired of these one and done guys.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We want guys who will stay here and represent Kentucky
for three or four years. And that sort of just
became a thing in the past. Then Nil came around Billy,
and now you see players sticking around longer because of
the money. Now they're motivated. Now, yeah, they have a
reason to stick around for two or three years. So,
I mean, I don't know, can you have it both ways?
I guess you can if you mix in some of
(29:18):
these guys who are two to three maybe even four
year players, you know, with five star players who.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Are wont and Dones.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I think that that's probably the best way to do it.
The problem is Pope hasn't been able to get a
one done yet.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And even in a world where money rules, Kentucky should
be the team that's getting the best recruits still. I mean,
with a twenty two million dollar roster, they theoretically have
more money to offer. And even if you think that
Vandy or a team like Vandy can come in and
offer money and playing time, Kentucky Shills should be the
appeal to the number one player in the class. Now
(29:50):
Vandy and they're playing time. I mean, obviy, I get
but basketball too. I mean, you guys are getting a
little too big for yourself.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Let me ask you something. Have you looked at the
basketball sec standing.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
No, I have not.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You want to know what you want to know? Who's
the undefeated team in the SEC right now? Vanderbilt basketball? No, no, no,
what a world?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
What kind of upside down world are we living in?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right now you got to be loving it over there,
mister Doores.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
It's it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I mean, as a fan of the basketball team, who
was you know? They were good? I guess during the
Stallings era, But there I don't know. I mean, I'll
wait and see. I'm kind of like Kentucky basketball. I
want to wait and see. You know what happens when
we get into the conference play. But right now they're
playing pretty well. They've had some quality wins. But what
happens when they get into the conference we'll find out
if they're.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Really good or not.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
One person that's not going to be sticking around is
former Michigan head coach Sharon Moore, who was fired yesterday
for cause after the university found evidence that Moore had
an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. Moore was later arrested
yesterday for an alleged assault and was detained by police.
Shannon and This is a bizarre story of a head
(31:02):
football coach of one of the biggest programs in the country.
This was like wildfire yesterday.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, he was fired, then he was arrested.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I mean, it's it's a crazy day, right for a coach,
and you think, you know, he's uh, he's your coach,
and then all of a sudden, he's gone.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And then not only is he gone, he's in jail.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, and and you know what is being alleged online.
I'm not going to repeat, and it is very dark. Yeah,
it is a very bad situation. But nevertheless, this is
really bad timing when it comes to the coaching cycle.
I mean, if you think about Michigan that everybody's either
been re signed or gotten a new job, Shanna, it
might be really tough for Michigan to find the right
person as the transfer portal is really just around the
(31:43):
corner right now at this point in the timing of
all it.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I mean, there's not a whole lot of options,
I don't think right now unless they want to bring
somebody out of retirement, you know, to coach Michigan go
to the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, I mean that is a yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That is an attractive job though, coaching at Michigan.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
So yeah, I mean that had been right behind lsu
as maybe the most attractive in the cycle. But it
comes out a little late and Michigan will be looking
to pick up the pieces again. I mean, that was
the guy that was already involved in the science stealings stuff.
So I mean, yeah, not great going on over there
for Michigan. Let's take another call, dude, who's up next?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Adam?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hey, Adam, what's up?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Guys?
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Like senior prank. I don't know where I heard this from.
I thought it was somewhere in Kentucky. But so you
take three pigs, do you write the numbers one, two,
and four on the three pigs? You release them in
the school, and then the staff spends the entire time
looking for number three.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I've heard that one before.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, but I like that the psychological prank more than
like the posted notes on a car or you know,
I don't know, orby's in the car.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You've seen that, Shannon, Yes, yeah, yeah. By the way,
Calas can't walk downstairs.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
According to Google, I saw that cows have a hard
time walking downstairs. So it's not just like cut and dry, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So it says right here, cows can walk downstairs. Well,
we know you're the googler of the bunch. Actually, I'm
just telling you what Google says. I haven't walked a
cow downstairs recently.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I'm not like I didn't just make that up. So
like there must be obviously an issue with cows and
going downstairs.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
So okay, well you want to go get a cow
and walking downstairs.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm gonna hold the line on that. I'm just not gonnect.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Let's go get a Let's go Google. Let's go get
a cow tomorrow in summerset. We'll see how well it
walks upstairs.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Then we'll take you downstairs.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, Well, I'll walk it up the stairs, you
worry about getting it down Shannon. Since you're so confident,
let's go to the phones one more time. We'll take
a break here, all right, let's.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Go to Casey. Oh hey, Casey, Hey fella, good morning.
Speaker 8 (33:44):
So not why I called, But I think the reason
why people always say can you hear me? Is because
there's a little bell you here right at Chane and
calls your name, So if you hear that bell, they
can hear you. But the reason I called, Shannon, I
think you and nail on the head I don't think
that we are Kentucky is enough anymore in the world
(34:04):
of NIL. So my question is, if Mitch goes away,
can we make j and my goalway too, Because if
that's the case, thanks for everything that. Don't let the
door hit you or the Good Lord split you. Like
what are we doing. We need to be the unmatched
gold standards in all aspects of college basketball because we
is Kentucky. Anything else is just unacceptable. And that's all
of God. I hope everyone is having a wonderful Christmas
(34:25):
season and we're praying for you, Matt, Larry, and Karen.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Thanks for the call, Casey, Thank you, Casey. Yeah, I
think you know JMI is not going away. I think
they're here to stay, Yeah, through the duration of the contract.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Mitch.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I don't know how long he's going to be here,
you know, we keep hearing reports that he may not
be here for the next season.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
That remains to be seen. But JMI, I think is
here to stay regardless.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, the multimedia rights agreement is four hundred and sixty
five million dollars. But I think what the issue for
a lot of people is the bb NIL suite that
serves as Kentucky's in house NIL collect if that is
something that Kentucky is doing that nobody else I think
in the entire country is doing, Shannon, when it comes
to the way they're operating ANIL, So, are you gonna
(35:10):
get rid of JM? I no, Like this is a
relationship that can work, but it's gonna need some adjustment
obviously when it comes to how NIL works. If you
believe some of the reporting that we've seen over the
last day or so, we need to take break though.
Eight five nine two a doh two two eight seven
Thursday edition of the KSR pre Show, and we will
be right back. Welcome back. It's the KSR pre Show.
(35:30):
Billy and the Dude cows don't like going downstairs? Maybe
can they physically go downstairs?
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yes? Y can.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I'm glad we settled it.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I'm glad you've found the distinction there A five nine
two ah two two eight seven. Shout out to Shay Gilgess,
Alexander Man. The Oklahoma City Thunder are twenty four and one.
They beat the Suns last night one thirty eight to
eighty nine, and Shay gild just had his ninety sixth
straight game with twenty plus points.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Shannon, that's consistency right there. Ah, my god, that is crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I mean, what he is doing at the NBA, in
the NBA at that level is just I mean, is
that more of the more impressive things you've heard from
a former Cat in the NBA in what a decade
or a long.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well, it is, I mean, besides maybe Anthony Davis being
able to win at all different types of level like
he did the National Championship, the NBA Championship, and Olympic
gold medal. But what Shay is doing, he is, no doubt,
I think, the best player in the NBA right now,
and that twenty four and one start is tied for
the best start ever to an NBA season, of course,
tying the Golden State Warriors from a few years ago.
(36:37):
So they are on the cusp of history possibly this
year with how good that they're playing. So fun to
watch former Cats Caseen Wallace and Shay gilligis Alexander a
little bit last night?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, the the was a Bulls team that only lost
what seven or eight games or something like that back
in the Warriors Warriors did of the Bulls I think
the Bulls did too. Yeah, well, was it the Warriors.
Did they tie the Bulls record or did they beat them?
Because I remember the Warriors were gunning for the Bulls
record and then they did what they did and then.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Lost, I believe in the title game. But yeah, I
mean that was there were some great teams back in
those Bulls days.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Let's see they they were. They were seventy and ten.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Seventy and ten, and then Warriors went seventy three and nine.
So there, now we will see what o case he
can do. Let's take another call. Who's up next, dude, Well,
let's go to Larry Hey.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Larry Hey, you know, just a ilsop. I'm for just
whatever it is we involved in. Uh, I'm just gonna
kind of scrap us down. You know, I read it
too last name online where you know that they have.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
The last say.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So you know, if we don't get no you know
fint with Cali is I had a problem to get
five of them. I get two one of Don's you
can live with it, but you get five, you know,
but we need at least get one player this year,
one blue chip at guard. We've been on all this time,
and guys, I mean that that the vangerbild are slipping
in on him.
Speaker 9 (37:58):
They've got a hag of.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Recruit plass uh uh through four top one hundred players,
you know, and to tell you don't want to slip
down below them. I mean, we're home sports programs coming up.
But but you know the thing with Cal when he
was here, what I had caught with he would have
five and the kids wasn't ready that he would still
set them off, just like when Shepherd and Dylan Hamm
(38:19):
they were coming off the bench. Hey, Wagner was a starter. No, no,
nothing against Wagner, but Wagner is still in college right now. Guys,
So Cal he cared more about Joe and tail morning.
Does you know the program. That's what really taught me
by him when we got Shade sharp turn that bench
the whole year. That was a final nail for me too.
(38:40):
And uh you know. But but anyway, guys, I always
uh Mark Pope luck. But he's got to win Saturday,
and he's got to get us a player that you
know we're used to get, you know, one or two players.
I mean, you don't want to have five.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, I think the solution is you get you know
one or two want of done type guys and then
filling the rest with guys who will stick around for
you know, two, three, four years, those type of players
that we already have on the team, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
With the transfer portal. I think that's more important than
even maybe going into the high school ranks. A lot
of times if you can get the right talent. One
person in the text line this made me laugh said,
I don't know why people are so upset that we're
not winning up till Saturday's game. Tyler Perry and Pope
have the same exact record for the same amount of
games in two years. I think that's Cali Perry that
(39:26):
is autocorrected to Tyler Perry. Okay, Tyler Perry, because I
was thinking, I had to think for a second, Tyler Perry,
did he? I mean, what's what kind of what's his
coaching record right now? But that obviously an auto correct Shannon,
if you had an autocorrect moment in the past.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, plenty of them. The good thing is
now on iPhones you can go back.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
And edit those.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah, be quick, but they'll never notice.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Well, it shows the edit though, it shows the edit
that you make.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, I know it shows on Twitter. Does it show
it on text too.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
I think it does.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
And they still see the mistake. I did this one
thing where like I took a picture of a group
chat about somebody or like it was like I think
I was trying to show somebody something that somebody had
sent me, and then I sent it to that person
instead of the person I was trying to send it to.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
You can't you can't delete it.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Then.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't know if I've I talked to them since,
like it ended everything.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
You just never talked to them again. I was just
did they reply?
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Oh yeah, they replied, and they were like, what the
bleep is this?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And I just I did not like you, just like
like you died in that moment.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, heard from Well that was a fraternity brother, So
I mean I still saw them, but it was it
was definitely strained after that. Uh, we have time for
this last call.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Well you got about a minute.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Uh go ahead, fake red, fake red?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, y'all are talking about dad.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
Uh. That guy going to jail reminded me of my
good friend Andy dw Frayne. We locked up being charge
any prison together.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
Now.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I don't know what you got a whole wallet run,
but I know what Andy wish.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Had and Okay, do you want to hear any more
of that?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, you do want to hear that?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, bring fake Red back, fake Red. You're still there,
I am. You got like twenty seconds, give me more.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
You don't have twenty seconds. No, we're done with fake Red.
I got no, we're done with that. I'm making a decision.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Well, then go ahead and end the show though.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh well, hey, promo code KSR. Sign up on DraftKings.
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code ks are. All right, we're in Summerset tomorrow, Billy.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Right, we are pending the snow. We'll see if we
can make it there. But that is supposed to be
there at Don Franklin, I believe.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
All right, we'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
All right for chanting the Dude and Billy Rutlis. We'll
talk you tomorrow
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