May 3, 2024 • 52 mins
Sensitive Cowboys fans, brace yourselves... Nate spills the beans on the Cowboys' REBUILD year.
From the Cowboys' new direction under Mike Zimmer to Dak Prescott's contract talks, get ready for a whirlwind of insights. But it's not all doom and gloom— Rhads hops in with Nate to discuss the Mavericks' playoff success steals the spotlight. Luka, Kyrie, Gafford, and Holmgren shine bright!
The talk extends to potential matchups and strategies in the playoffs, including the Thunder's strengths and weaknesses. It's a jam-packed episode you won't want to miss!
#beaplaymaker #dallascowboys #nfldraft #nbaplayoffs
From the Cowboys' new direction under Mike Zimmer to Dak Prescott's contract talks, get ready for a whirlwind of insights. But it's not all doom and gloom— Rhads hops in with Nate to discuss the Mavericks' playoff success steals the spotlight. Luka, Kyrie, Gafford, and Holmgren shine bright!
The talk extends to potential matchups and strategies in the playoffs, including the Thunder's strengths and weaknesses. It's a jam-packed episode you won't want to miss!
#beaplaymaker #dallascowboys #nfldraft #nbaplayoffs
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Hi there. Look who's back.It's Nate Newton. Nate Newton. You
remember Nate. We were here talkingright after the Super Bowl. We said
we'd be back, and here weare right after the Cowboys Draft. And
when Nate is on here, helikes to look right at the camera and
say, let me tell you something. Man, I've missed this rat.
I've I've been through some ups anddowns. But you know the thing about
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the rat. When you ask forsomething, be careful what you ask for.
I wanted to do a double kneereplacement, and Lord Jesus, it
took the Lord to bring me throughit. My beautiful wife Michelle. Boy,
but I'm back up, Brad.Let me tell you, I'm so
glad and your your your mobile andyour and you're recovering and and you're and
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you're ready. Are you ready toplay again? Now? Oh man,
I'm ready to bring some thunderboy.I got like two plays and me that's
to run out on the field.It ran over and run back off the
field. That's all you need onTuesday. Yeah, yeah, I get
that big check. That's right.We kept up with you, you know
via the social media. You weregreat to keep posting and it looked like
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as difficult as it was, allthings went well in all seriousness, didn't
They know? Yeah, and youknow what rap And if you give me
a chance her, let me saythis, and let me tell y'all something.
If you have any trying things aboutlike say high blood diabetes, anywhere
where they have to give you bloodthinners, they cannot give you it's not
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suggested that they give you any antiflammatories. And if you can't have that,
that slows down the healing process.And what it did for me was
I'm trying to eat, I'm tryingto drink, but having those blood thinners
and not have me the antiflammatories keptme in a bunch of pain. So
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I had to just kept changing medicines. Thank God for the doctors and their
assistance that were helping me in Ittook me like two to three, maybe
four weeks before I really got mymedicine adjusted. And then at the end
about four weeks, I found outI was dehydrated because I'm trying to figure
out this pain management. Luckily,my rehab people always found a way to
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get me working and get me going, and I went into the hospital for
like a day rad and they gaveme two bags of fluid. And when
I walked out of the hospital,boy, I made a VIW to myself
because I was feeling so good,because it was all about I did not
maintain the fluids and the proper foodsat the time. And when I walked
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out of the hospital, Man,two or three weeks ago. I had
the surgery on March nineteenth, aboutthree and a half weeks after that.
I was in the hospital for likemaybe six seven hours getting that fluid.
When I walked up out of there, man, I even look back.
Man, I threw my walker away. I don't even know where that's at.
I threw my walker away. I'vebeen walking, been in my rehab.
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People have been beautiful. I mean, if we Gilwis sponsors, I
can give out y'all names. Butsince y'all ain't paying Spencer Bass and my
boy as Tom the money, weain't gonna mention you. I just say
we'll get them. We'll work ongetting them as a sponsor. Because you
are. You have a great testimonialright there. That's fantastic. And man,
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we're glad to have you back.We're glad you're healthy. I know
there's not a single athlete, uhprofessional in particular, who has not been
through surgeries and this type of thingbefore. So if one of them slows
an athlete down, man, Iknow it's something because you guys have been
through through all of it before.Yes, man, I mean all those
many corrects finally paid off. Man, and I had a big Uh.
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It's like I say, man,when I when I went in Charles Haley,
a lot of other people say,do both needs, do both needs,
but always look at your situation.I should have been more weary because
I am a diabetic, high bloodthings like that take into account. You
may want to go one knee,then four weeks out go to other knees
because I had a lot of lossof blood. So but you know,
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I'm a believer what God brought methrough. And man, I just feel
good. Rat and I'm here man, and we time is so perfect,
rad I mean, we said we'llbe back right around the draft. Here
it is. The draft has happened, and I'm excited the playoffs. Man,
the thunder the Mavericks are stilling contention. I mean, just anything that's
connected to me and you what doyou want to talk about? What do
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you Zeke is back with a newnumber. I mean, I'm excited.
So here's the thing, with theNFL Draft being where it is now,
and with the uh, you know, playoffs in basketball and in hockey,
and then Major League Baseball starting April. Now, I've been a sportscaster for
forty years, Nate, April isthe busiest month in sport of the year.
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It's unbelievable. Just like, hey, just like last night in DFW,
fans are sitting there watching, youknow, the Stars start at six
thirty, the Rangers at seven,the Mavericks at nine, and man,
that is a full plate of sportsright there, you know. And we
had a pretty good night in theDFW because the Stars won and the MAVs
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killed just killed the Clippers. SoI like that. We'll talk a little
bit more about that, and we'lltalk. We will talk. Look at
here, Look what I got,Nate, see my cup? Yeah?
Yeah, I see you coming LahomaCity Thunder baby. Yeah, that's who
I've been working with this offseason.And I'm going to talk about the Thunder
because they're really good. But butwe got to go first things. First,
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name, yes, the Cowboys.Yes, what in the heck when
we last talked. Now, Idid like this. When we last talked,
you said, what the Cowboys needis a big linebacker, a big
run stuff and linebacker. They gotto get a linebacker in there who can
help slow down these running games.And while they haven't done they did you
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know, they brought in Eric Kendricks. Okay, but but while they haven't
done a ton in that area,what they did do is they change the
mentality of the defense because Mike Zimmercame in here, Nate, and Mike
Zimmer's whole mentality is exactly what youwere saying. Get off of this,
you know, a bunch of littlescat guys running around being quick and crazy.
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Get some big hosses in there andstop the run the thing. It's
all right to have the great passrushers, but in this league, one
thing you don't want is to havea two way go. Last year,
it's good at coaches, we hadwho's wit Now with the Washington Enemy commanders,
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you know, we let go.Well, he got a head coaching
job. And I'm not gonna callhis name because once you leave, my
beloved Cowboys, your name is notto be mentioned again. But now we
have Mike Zim who's dedicated to understandingthat you dictate to the offense. You
can either run or you can pass, but you would not be able to
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dictate us both and when you desireto do it. Mike Zimmers went out
and drafted those type guys. Wehave pass rushers, but now we have
guys that are dedicated to the run. Where when we go to practice in
the spring, I mean out toThousand Oaks, California, we will see
people dedicated to run, stopping.We will have a unit that would run
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in on first and second down andrun situations where these guys are going to
be dedicated first to stop and therun. Because Ray listen to me.
Now listen to me. Let metell y'all something. And I've told everybody
this and this is what confirmed itfor me. They had love. The
quarterback for the Green Bay Packers,young guy tell Michael Parsons on his podcast,
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you can go back and get itstreaming. That's what I think about
streaming. You can pull it backup. He said. All we wanted
to do was when we got ina tight and it was a and it
was anyway I call it any waydown where you can run a pass,
They said, We just gonna run. Y'all. Were just gonna run the
ball over the last seven to eightyears. Whenever you wanted to beat the
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Dallas Cowboys, whenever we got inbig game situations, tight situations, team
just ran the ball. They dictatedwhen they was gonna pass, but they
mostly just ran the ball. Zimis gonna stop that. That is our
first round pick. They got Tylergotten, but our first round pick is
Zim. He's he's gonna make it. He's gonna he's gonna be a factor
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in what we're doing against the runthis year. Yeah. Yeah, And
that's kind of exactly what I wassaying, Nate. It'll it'll change philosophically
now, which again is huge.And do you have the players? I
mean, I think there probably arethe players in place. And then you
know they did draft a couple ofmore. Their second pick was now he
was he's kind of more of apass rusher that Mark Markshawn Kneeling. Uh,
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but you know he's a he's adefensive end. Say, you know,
you might push him over there tostop the run. You do whatever
you can, uh, you know, to get bigger and to get better
at that. Right, you knowwhat most of these guys, if you
look at their totals, they're notsack guys. They're not sack guys.
They're they're guys that does have heavyhands. What I mean by that they
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jamming, They getting their hands asideand they looking for run stop first and
they run to the ball with highmotors. What you look for if you
can't get that pure pass rusher isyou look for that guy that has that
high motor. You know, aguy that with a high motor that's always
jamming looking for that ball. Hecan turn into a pass rusher. You
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can get pass rush uh goodness outof a guy like that. They not
never be great as pass rushers,but they will have that ability to rush
the passer along with that ability tostop the run. And those are the
type of guys that he got itin marsh On and even in the cornerbacks
that he got. You know,these guys can come up, Carlene Carson
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four years person, Yeah, theseguys played four years Await. These guys
are gonna come up and be physical, and that is what we've been lacking
in games where teams dictated us.Zim is not gonna let that happen.
You may run, you may throwfor four hundred yards, but you're not
gonna have another one hundred and fiftyyards rushing. You may rush for four
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hundred yards, but you're gonna haveanother two hundred and fifty yards passing.
You're gonna have to get them oneone way or other so they can dictate
to you. And I think that'swhat Zim is going to bring to this
team. All right, So bigpicture, I like that we talked about
the defense and how we definitely thinkjust with that first round pick, as
you said, Mike Zimmer, it'llbe improved. But big picture, Nate,
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and you've been around this thing alittle longer than I have, because
well, in fact, you telegraphedit earlier. You've been around it so
long. You think they're still goingto Thousand Oaks for training camps in nineteen
ninety. Yeah, they're going toox SNAr. You go past Yea on
twe back then. I went backto the Landril and you did, Wow,
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you did? You went back,man. So that's how long you've
been around. I've been around almostas long. My first year covering Cowboy
training camp was that first year inAustin. But anyway, in that time
that I've been here, Nate,I have never seen the Cowboys fan base
as disgruntled and upset about an offseason as they've been this year. Now.
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The Cowboys let eight walk, right, they let eight people leave the
organization and free agency, and theyreally haven't done a lot. They brought
Zeke back this week, we mentionedthat, and they brought in Eric Kendricks,
as we said, but they haven'tdone a lot to recoup what they
lost. They're hoping they'll get someof that out of the draft. But
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what about this offseason. I mean, it feels like the Cowboys are depleted
and significantly worse than they were lastyear. Rad do you want the truth?
Can you handle the truth? Ican handle the truth. I want
you on that wall. This isa rebuild. This has nothing to do
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with can you win twelve to thirteengames. This is a rebuild. You
have two young offers, linemen youdrafted in the first three rounds. You
have another guy you've drafted in theseventh round, a guy that we're going
to try to put at center.This is a rebuild. This is about
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trying to rededicate yourself and rebuild yourselfin your image. To being a morph
physical team. You got ceedee lamb. They talk about resigning it, they
talk about resigning that. This isa rebuild. My brother, we let
a lot of people walk. Ifyou wasn't under contract, Jonathan Hankins,
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how do you let your one runstopping guy leave you? You you asking
for Masie Smith to stand up andput on back another twenty five pounds that
he lost to last year and beatthat run soup. You actually want him
to reset his mind. This isa rebuild. This is about changing your
culture, and that is what MikeCilari Zim Mike Clari's offensive line coach.
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Zim is your offensers defensive coordinator andcoach McCarthy. I believe in him.
I think he's here even after thisyear. Because you don't want to change
this thing is a rebuild. Youdon't want to go out and get a
new head coach or this is ah. I don't know if you want to
call a soft rebuild a slow rebuild, but this is a rebuild all together.
You let too many people walk thatwere pertinent in what we did it
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as a defense and offensive last year. Okay, so along those lines,
and you mentioned you know coach McCarthy. He's on the last year of deal.
Zim has a one year deal.Dak has not been signed up for
after next year. That's right,Ceedee Lamb has not been signed up.
They did exercise the option on MichaelParsons for at least a couple more years.
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But do I read into this thatin this first year of a rebuild,
if things don't go as planned,any or all of those men who
are on the last year of adeal could be gone. Yes, I
mean, trade it whatever, becausethere was. We have never been in
the last seven years six years,never been in a rush with free agency.
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But during the second week we alwayssigned someone to let people know that,
Okay, this is the better qualityguy for the money that we have
stored away for it. They didn'teven bother. I mean, I'm actually
the cowboy fans to look at thetruth, look at what is real.
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They didn't. Zeke is our biggestoff season acquisition. They shouldn't have never
let him go. I told everybodylast year forget about Oh, we don't
want to hurt his feelings by offeringhim three mil. Guess what he just
took. Guess what he played forlast year? Guess what he's playing for
this year. Zeke likes football.He loves football. He's a team guy.
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You shouldn't have let him got outof the building last year. That
we could have gotten more out ofTony Polt because our offensive line was getting
older. But be it that Zekeis our biggest acquisition. I like what
he brings the room. I likewhat he does for us, the team
mentality, because that fits in withwhat Zim and Mike celari is. That's
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toughness, that's greatness. But thisis what it is. It's a rebuild.
Handle it, deal with it,don't get don't don't let it.
We running to the super Bowl?Yeah, you run into the super Bowl,
all right, on a rebuild.So where do the expectations sit?
Then the expectations I think that thatCowboys can make the playoffs. It would
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be a struggle because now you gottwo new offensive linemen. You got a
right tackle that's in his second yearoff of a major knee surgery. You
got an agent right right guard thatstill got all pro written all of him
if he's healthy. But you gottafind the center. You gotta find the
center. And they says, BBis this guy. Yeah, Cooper b
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But you know what, Hoffman hassomething to say about that. Now.
TJ. Bass has something to sayabout that. It's gonna be very for
the first time. And I thinkin two or three years we got competitive
guys. That's gonna if the coachesdo it right. We don't have enough
young guys, I mean enough oldguys where guys can be missing practice.
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If you're going to start BB atcenter, he should be taking snaps right
now. If he got a wifeor a little kid, he should have
his hands between daddy's legs, awhite husband snapping that ball. You know
what I'm saying, I'm just beinghonest, because you cannot afford to be
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into the middle of the season.We can't wait till the first regular season
games say oh he really can't playcenter. Now we need to know this,
and we need to know it now. You know, give him every
snap that him and Hoffman battle thisthing out right now, or TJ.
Bass or whoever you're going to putin there. Yeah, all right,
so that's great. The all incomments from Jerry Jones obviously misled such a
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large, you know, percentage ofCowboy fans. They took him at his
word and that is uh, that'ssomething right. When you've been around Jerry
as much as you have, yourecognize and realize that sometimes he says things
that are good for other parts ofthe organization, right, marketing or this
or that or the other thing,and not necessarily what is the actual fact
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of what is happening is that sortof what happened here. The thing is,
mister Jones is always going to beexcited. He was excited when he
was getting ready to go to Arkansasand he was selling tennis shoes at the
back of his car. He wasexcited. He was telling everybody, you
know, he had the best tennisshoes. You didn't have to go to
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kmart or j C. Pennas toget these shoes. The sears robut them
sores back when I was growing up. You know what I'm saying. You
didn't have to go to that andget the blue light special. He had
it right to back his car athalf the price. He was excited.
He probably sold every pair. Hadyou believe that you had original shoes and
you bust out them in the lessthan two months. But that's how it
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is. If you cannot understand,see, let me say something to you.
Rad. Let me tell you something. There's podcasts and then there's podcast
Come to if you want the truthand you can handle the truth, come
see John Raddigan and Nate Newton andlet me tell you something. This is
a rebuild, folks. This isa rebuild to give Mike McCarthy that can
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bring us to ten games, ninegames or eleven games. He should have
another contract because you got a newdefensive coordinator, you got a great offensive
line coach. Now you know that'swhat it is. It's a soft rebuild.
You know, really it's a hardrebuild. But I just want to
give a soft blow, you knowwhat I'm saying to the to the fans.
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I'm the reason why, I'm thestability. You know, Me and
you Rad, We're gonna bring thetruth and nothing but the truth. Yeah.
So do you believe Nate that thatwas the plan from you know,
basically the day after the Green game, Green Bay game. Oh yeah,
when when they sat down a weeka day or two after, like where
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are we right now? They hadit starts with the money, Okay,
sixty million for a quarterback twenty one, twenty two million for a defensive ends
slash linebacker twenty one million at mostfor a wide receiver. Can we afford
this? Okay, big money camefor the Sarah cap A lot of teams
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jumped on it. You see theGiants, you've seen philadep you went out
and stole the Giants running back.You see guys move around. But you
also saw Buffalo let a great widereceiver go. So it's just all about
what you want to do. Doyou want to build a team. Do
you have a quarter Because it's allpredicated on the quarterback. The Bills went
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out and found them a wide receiverin the draft that they think they can
replace Diggs. Okay, that's all, And well, what are you saying
is that your quarterback is capable ofenough of carrying your team. Well,
we see who Dak is. Dakis a great regular season quarterback. But
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Dak needs that super receiver. Heneeds Ceed Lamb, he needs Brandon Cook,
he needs the good tight end thatwe have. All we have to
do now is put an offensive linein place so we don't have to put
that pressure on Dak when the playoffscome. But now, do you give
him sixty million dollars a year?I don't know that. I'm not gonna
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say yeah, nay, but lethis body of work during the playoffs speak
for itself. So anybody who's evermet Dak, yourself, me, and
the guys in the locker room,you get such a feeling from that guy
he is. He is so greatin that room. He's just very interpersonal,
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very easy to get along with.Front only great guy. Everybody that
knows him and knows him well loveshim, and even those of us who
I just know him from the peripherya little bit. He's just a great
guy. There's nothing not to likeabout Dak Prescott the human being. It's
hard to weigh in on this,but we're gonna speak the truth. Can
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he take that step and be thatguy that's good in the playoffs as well?
Nate's eight years. Yeah, it'sbeen eight years. He had a
hell of a great regular season lastyear he grew into the guy that we
thought, but he he panicked inthe playoffs. That's when you should be
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cool as ice water, my brother, that's when you should be an Alaskan
snow cap or iceberg. As yousee an iceberg, you see very little
on the top, but if youlook up on the water, you see
like two miles of ice because he'sso cool and so smooth, and that's
how Troy used to be and he'snot Troy and and so that's gonna get
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it twisted. But that is whathe has to do. He should have
calmed himself and and and and andstarted, uh just showing people who he
is. And it's been eight years. Uh so now you have to make
a hell of a decision of misterJones, Mister Stephen Jones, Miss Charlotte
Jones, Will McClay, y'all haveto sit down and say, do we
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get this guy fifty million dollars ayear? Do we continue to build our
team and and and and just seewhere he's at if that wants. You
know, Minnesota cut their losses withwith Cousins, and even when Cousins went
went to Atlanta, they gave himone hundred and eighty mil most of the
guaranteed. But they say, weknow what We're gonna find us a young
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guy. Uh. I don't knowwhat they got on the roster uh with
these young guys. Uh, butthis is this this this be a backbreaking
move. If they signed Dak's abig money and he doesn't perform in the
playoffs. What are you looking at? What is your future? Because you
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got a lot of money wrapped upand guys still need to be paid.
Yeah. Yeah, boy, it'sa decision that I am so glad I
do not have to make. Andagain, obviously the Jones family and all
those the Joneses and Will McLay thatyou mentioned, they know him way better
than we do. He's such alikable guy. But you can't just you
can't just resign him because you likehim. You have to re sign him
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because you have confidence he can takeyou to that next level. And again,
Nate, uh, most of thequarterbacks who have had really good success
in the playoffs, they're generally youngerthan what Dak is already. Yes,
yes, uh, you know,you know you don't want to smear a
guy's name. You don't want to, But I'm about performance. Potential is
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great in your first two years,you know, I look at Matt Lasca
and a few other guys that playon offensive line. A great potential potential
will get you fired. Bill Parcellshas tried to preach that all of his
disciples that have come under him knowsthis, believes in this potential will get
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you fired every time performance after twoyears. A guy like Mazzi, Mazzie
can't come in here this year stumbling, bumbling, then he got to be
gone next year because potential what wesaw at Michigan does not count in the
NFL. This thing, this leagueis not for loon That's what NFL mean,
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not for long. You know,if you can't perform up to a
certain standard, you going You know, see the advantages that quarterbacks have.
There's only maybe ten or twelve goodquarterbacks in the league. So you're scared
when you don't get one of thoseguys because if they're gone, you you
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you got a average you got anaverage guy, below average guy, and
you got to make a decision.You know, do you build your team
up and wait on this guy likea lot of better teams in the league
have done, or do you goout and get one of these ten or
twelve guys and overpay. Well,that's don't have that does not go for
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linebackers, that does not go fordefensive lineman, that does not go for
most offensive linemen. You either haveit, get paid, or don't have
it and just shuffle around the league. And right now that's the situation.
A lot of guys are in Well, it's a it's a remarkably interesting off
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season already. And I think thefact that, as we mentioned, so
many of the guys are on thatlast year of the deal, it's it's
really going to be telling, isn'tit. If to see if the Cowboys
do some sort of a reworking oran extension of Dak or an extension of
C. D. Lamb before trainingcamp, isn't it? I mean that
will tell us a lot about theshort term direction sort of after the rebuilt
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Yes, yes, do you wantto go into twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty four. I'm not looking forbig things. I'm looking for Mike McCarthy
to put it in place, agrowth plan of where he wanted this offensive
line to be by eight to ninegames in. How is he gonna use
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his plethora of running backs? Youknow? How is he gonna continue to
develop Cede Lamb and other young guysthat I receivers that took steps last year?
How is he gonna do that?You know, I'm not a guy
that just falls into Okay, we'rethe Dallas Cowboys, you know, who
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haven't been to the second round ofthe playoffs in over thirty years. I'm
not one of those. I'm notgullible. I'm a realist. I've won.
I know what it takes to rebuild. I know what the attitude it
takes. So and I end Ican tell people, you know, no,
knock on what has happened, becauseMike McCarthy's giving you twelve wins the
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last two years, but he's gonnahave to do a masterful job of getting
you ten eleven wins this year.A masterful job. Look at it.
You look, you pull up theschedule, pull it up rad and you
can see disaster written all over it. You can't stumble in the first half
of this season and hope to recover. No, No, it's a great
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point. Well that's wonderful, man, that's a great thumbnail of what has
happened thus far. In the offseason, when we get together and let me
tell you something. You know,we're always talking cowboys and we will.
But Nate, you like the restof the Metroplex has jumped on board,
as you should with this Dallas Mavericksteam that finished the regular season sixteen and
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two, right there, last eighteengames, sixteen and two. What we're
seeing is excuse me, We're sayingthat we're seeing Luca and Kyrie get along
so well, and we're seeing apresence in the middle with Daniel Gafford and
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the young fella, and I wonderif they have caught your attention and are
you are you buying into this Mavericksgroup. They're up in the series with
the Clippers now after winning out there. The thing that amazes me is Jason
Kidd and the ownership have done amaster for job, master for job of
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soothing Kyrie, of allowing Kyrie andLuca to mash and to become uh special.
A lot of guys. I haven'twatched a lot of basketball, especially
when I went down with these knees. Uh. That's all I had was
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the playoffs, and I just basicallywatched it and study nobody. But my
hat's off. It's to Jason Kiddand the way he's defined everybody roll where
their upper management is, went outand got guys who have stepped up and
did what they had to do.Uh. You see where they have made
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adjustments to Harden, They made adjustmentsto the other guy. Uh that that
is uh Paul George. And sothey made adjustments and that comes from coaching,
man, That come from coaching,being able to relate to your players,
doing what you have to do.They they they say, you know
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what we we still see Let's goback to the to the beginning. No
one projected the Dallas Mavericks to bein this playoff run where they're located right
now. No one projected that out. Everybody will go out and tell you,
oh, yeah, we we knewthe Mavericks. Know you didn't because
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half the Metroplex was like, whydid we why did we sign Kyrie?
Oh? And the other half like, lord Jesus, if we can just
but they found a way and morelike McCarthy has to do the same.
They like you said, It wassixteen and four closing out the season,
and then the first playoff game againstthe Clippers was disastrous and there was no
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Kyrie, and they came back anddid what they had to do. And
this was a pivotal fifth game andwhat they beat them one hundred and twenty
three to tell ninety three, beatthem by thirty. Yeah, man,
beat the draws off matter. Likewe sit back in the day, I
hope I ain't offending them. Beattheir draws off them. That goes off,
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you know, Lucas said after thatloss, They're like, wow,
I'm letting Kyrie down. Well,he let Kyrie set tempo the other night
and he just followed in and thenhe enforced his will at the end of
the game when he needed to slowit down. My hat's off to him.
And the two centers they got.Oh my god, yeah, Oh
my god. Man, the twocenters they got. It's unbelievable in realm,
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protecting guys doing their jobs being whothey have to be. What are
you gonna do, Rad, Whatare you gonna do? Here's what I'm
gonna do. First is I'm gonnagive you two other people who deserve credit
on the Kyrie thing, right,okay. One is Nico Harrison, their
general manager, who kind of sawthis thing, you know, being possible.
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Nico has done a great job there. But the other person, Nate,
is Kyrie. Yes, it's Kyriebecause he could have come in here.
We see when he took over inthat thirty they lost that game where
they were down thirty one, cameall the way back to take the lead
and then ended up losing it.But game four, I guess that was
at home. But Kyrie took overthat game. They never get back in
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that game. If Kyrie doesn't takethat game over, you see what he
can do. And yet he realizes, Man, this thing is Lucas and
I'm gonna be over here and I'mgonna be ready to do whatever I need
to do. And that is noteasy for a superstar. He's a superstar,
and it's not easy for a superstar? Is it to sort of take
a back seat? If you willlike that in any way? You know,
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I tell you, man, itjust reminds me of Michael Irvin,
who was like the heart and soulof it. But Troy was our leader.
You know, he was unquestionable.But you will see Michael Irvin take
over some time and get in place. And that is a testament to Luca
growth. You know. Now,Luke ain't gonna never stop crying, no
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re else. He ain't gonna neverstop begging and winding. So ignore that,
learn to ignore that. That's justwho he is. That's just superstitsious
little thing as a superstar. That'shis little kick, a little side advice
that I'm gonna complain. I don'tcare let that happen. He's he's smart
enough to know when the back upand shut up. So but he's all
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but he but for him to growand let let this guy that's second to
him, they want to call himRobins, do what he has to do.
Man, But you know, Washington, Jones, all of these guys
have oh man, my cat's offto Jason Kidd being able to make adjustments.
Man, when they took that thirtyone point lead, you saw automatically
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Jason Kidd say, you know what, pick the pace up. Let's go,
let's go, and he knew,who Kyrie, I need you now,
I need you to pick this paceup, Luca, let him pick
this pace up. And they tookthat into the fifth game. That's a
very pivotal game. You're over eightypercent when you win that fifth game.
So now all they got to dois come back home and handle their business.
And that's gonna that's gonna be thebackbreaker. Man. Yeah, you
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know that's that's and it's that's exactlyright. It's too simple. When you
know, if we start even andwe go to the halftime tied up,
down two points, we got enoughdepth. They can't handle us. The
Mavericks has enough depth and a goodenough coach that you can't handle us.
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God forbid, the Mavericks get afive or six or ten point league going
into the half. They threw Hardenis playing his best playoff basketball. He
could play. George is playing hisbest playoff basketball. But Kyrie, like
Dak, they got to make adecision on him. They got to make
a decision or the Clippers got tomake a decision on him. If you're
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gonna keep giving a guy thirty fortymillion dollars for not for not playing,
showing up in the playoffs, eventhough every team, whether you Denver,
whether you're Philadelphia, whether you theKnicks, every team has lost players in
the playoffs, and now it's comingdown to your coach and your star players
to adjusting. You may and doyou have enough depth? That's why the
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Sons are sitting home. You hadthree players that could not mash. You're
gonna blame it on your head coach, which he's not the problem when you
know you needed a point. God, I mean, come on, man,
management can't be that stupid? Ohcan they? Maybe they can,
because what they've done in that league, Nate, in that league, they
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have let the team be run ifyou will, from the bottom up right,
from the players up, instead offrom the top the ownership and the
general manager down. A lot ofthese teams are run from the bottom up,
which again the bottom. Those dudesmake more money in you. I
can deal with you know, Ican deal with players moaning and groaning,
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but I can't deal with owners thatcan't get out the way. And I'm
gonna jump. I'm gonna jump allthe way to something that's another sport.
I feel so bad for the headcoach, Frank I can't think of the
name it was. He got firedby the Panthers. This coach wanted the
kid that's down in Houston for hisnumber one pick. Management overrode him.
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You bring in a coach who's aquarterback guru. He tells you he wants
the kid in Houston. You sayno and get the kid from Bama.
Guess what he saw something you didn'ttrust in him. Frank Vogel came in
and said, I need a point. God, I'm begging for a point.
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God. You tell him that BradleyBill is your point. God.
Really, an ultra number two?An ultra number two. You had three
number two's running around there in Phoenix, you know, and you never gave
Frank Vogel. You fire Frank Vogel, That is dumb. Get him a
guard and let him work. It'sjust amazing how it used to be general
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managers, uh, player personnel guysthat you could have. How you gonna
fire somebody you never gave him theproper tools? Wow? Wow, man,
I can go on and on.You know, people say how mister
Jones dibble and dabble, But forthe most part, Steven Will McLay and
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guys like that and that, they'rethey're they're making a lot of calls and
they're bringing the information to mister Jonesand and and I've never known him just
to go, hey man, Idon't care what y'all say. Yeah,
even with even with Atlanta and andwhat they did there and getting the kid
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out of Washington, they they toldthey owner, hey man, we're gonna
get our future quarterback. And intwo years, if he's playing, we
can let this guy go. Ifnot, we still got a guy,
you know, because Atlanta got piecesin place, but they want to give
it a shot with a guy that'sthat's got some guy got some moxy to
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him. I've never been about fansare players choosing players. Troy, as
great as he is, choose hechose a couple of tight ends and they
was garbage. Come on, man, you as the That's why you that's
why you get millions and millions andbillions of dollars of letting people scout all
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over the country twenty four to seven. And then you don't and then you
okay, come draft, say ohyeah, well we want we don't want
that guy, and you get foryou fire Frank Wright. Is that the
guy levels for the Panthers? Youfire him? But the guy down in
Houston lighten it up? Yeah?Come on, man, yeah, yeah,
come on. I agree. Iagree. You've got to let your
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football. And I think you're right. I think Jerry does do this right.
Yes, if Jerry lets his football, people you know a sway him,
let him, you know, atleast at least help him. Hey,
if you set up on the tablefor a guy, Jerry gonna hold
you accountab before it. If youall up on the table, man,
you know, undress yourself. Youknow, got button nicker and hollering and
screaming down up and down the table, Jerry, say all right, bet
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your life on it, bet yourkids and your family on it because it
don't work. I'm getting rid ofyou, okay, but you didn't even
give Frank Write a chance. Man. I'm not saying this kid couldn't have
came to the Panthers and changed something, but man I would. I would
at least would have gave my mykid coach opportunity to have the guy he
wanted. Yeah, he sure madea quick change in Houston, Yes he
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did. We weren't expecting that outof them. Yes, wow, right,
they're gonna be good this year too. All right, So if the
MAVs win. Right now, they'relike the only lower seed in the playoffs
that's having any success. The higherseeds and in the playoffs across the board
in the NBA are doing better.It's early, but anyway, if the
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MAVs win, this is who theytake on. Nate Oklahoma City Thunder.
Now, I've been doing Thunder preand postgame shows for fifteen years in the
baseball off season. Did him thisyear? Again? I know you've watched
some Thunder, oh yeah, andbelieve it or not, and I've enjoyed
it. This is a great organization. They do a great job. They've
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rebuilt like that. Okay, Buthere's the thing. I'm not sure.
I'm sure. I think the MAVsare one of the teams that can actually
take this number one seed that justswept through the first round. I think
the MAVs could take them down.The here's why. Yeah, Chet Holmgren
is a great player. He isgoing to be a superstar in this league.
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But the Oklahoma City Thunder, ifthey have a weakness, it is
inside. Okay, the MAVs havenot only one, but two guys Yafford
and Lively, that they can throwat the inside right and they and by
the way, those guys can goout with Chat Holmgren because he'll do that
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on you. He'll try to drawyou outside because he wants to get you
away from the basket. Well,you know they can do that. When
when the Mavericks, i mean,the Thunder just swept the New Orleans Pelicans,
you know, Jonas Valachunis can't dothat. He can't go out.
He's got to stay by the basket. These guys can do that. They
can hang with Chat wherever. Heruns around like a crazy man. But
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they have much more beef and muchmore strengthen and they are a team and
there's I don't think there's that manythat have that that double whim inside on.
I think that double whim He's gonnahelp him. Nate seven feet one,
two hundred and eight pounds. Butyou're saying he ain't heavy enough yet,
he ain't strong enough. He's notand he's not strong enough. I
mean, and this dude, Nate, this dude is unbelievably talented. He
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is. He is like Victor wemBinyama. He can. I'm telling you,
I've seen this cat take a rebound, come down the floor, dribble
between his legs, work around somebody, and you know, lay it up
in or either dunk it. Andhe is. He's a magician. He's
fantastic. He's just in his firstyear playing. He was on the team
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last year but hurt the whole year. He's fantastic. But he just needs
to get bigger and stronger and moreforceful in the middle. And he will.
I think he will. I mean, they've got a great strength and
conditioning program, and I see yourlords is swinging over us old old dunches
and his potners and all of that. But how did these guys become number
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one seeded? If they given ofall of this disadvantage that you're talking about,
you saying disadvantage with most teams,and the Cat he did unbelievably.
He had really good games, believethis or not against Jokic, who is
the best at that position and whoalso can chase you around as a big
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man. Right. So he roseto that level three times this year when
they played Denver, and they losttwo of them. But he played well,
right, which is a good sign. That said, most teams in
the NBA anymore don't have that sortof dominant big man. Everybody. You
know, everybody on most teams islike a six eight everything, right,
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They're all six eight and they canall do everything. And that's sort of
the the way teams are built inthe league. But now you get these
big fellas like Webbin Yama and likeChet Holmgren. I'm not saying Chet's won't
be a great player. He willbe unbelievable. He's don't have the experience.
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He doesn't I don't. I thinkthis Mavericks team is one of the
very few that could beat the Thoughtwell, and I think the Celtics would
beat them or probably anybody else thisyear too. They're highly motivated. But
but this Mavericks team, I thinkis a team in the West, you
know, in Denver. Obviously Denvercould beat the Thunder too, but the
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home city, Yeah, they're good. Man regular season, at the last
minute, they had enough ahead ofDenver Minnesota Timberwolves, who coach is a
great has a great coach. Ijust and you were saying that your Dallas
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Mavericks now since you're gonna switch backover, your Dallas Mavericks got enough to
thump at these boys. I thinkthey do. I think that double WHEMMI
inside is enough to do it becausethey also have you know what the what
the Thunder have too, obviously isthey have really good guard play there.
So their best three players are ChetHolmgren, Shake Gilgess, Alexander Is,
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you know, an All Star starterthis year and a superstar. And then
you know they got two Jalen Williams. This one they called Jay Dumb and
he's a big He's a big osixty six guard. You know. Uh,
the same thing with Shaye He's abig six to six guard six seven
maybe. And these big fellas arereally good in the backward well so are
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Kyrie Irving. Even though he's alittle smaller and Luka Doncics right, so
you match them there and if youcan outdo Chet with your double whammy at
the big point, you know thatthat this post position, you know you've
got an opportunity. Now I'm afraidabout Luca. I will say this because
that knee, even though he wassick in Game five and still came through
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fairly well, that knee is problematic. He doesn't look the same. So
hopefully they'll be able to get himsome you know, some healing on that
knee. But I think that theMAVs can beat him. Yeah. The
thing that I see with your Thunderteam is Shae. What is his name?
Shae? All these first names andeight last names pronounced that for me,
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you'll just Alexander, I mean Alexanderthe Great when the last time you've
seen a guy who just can distributethe ball can take over a game when
he needs to, like Luca,big enough to get in there with Luca,
He's gonna be uh forced Luca toplay both offensively and defensively with that
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need. That could be a problem. They have big enough guys their guard
position to to to go after youas your at your Robin for there.
The these kids don't fear they gotan home court advantage. And the way
this thing look, one team isgoing to be rested and one team is
going to be beat up. I'mnever a fan of rest. I'm really
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not. Okay, i am becauseyou saw whether uh the one time they
were rested, and I'm talking aboutyour Mavericks. Okay, they looked at
bad one games. But this isa seven game series. Yeah, so
you got to win. You wenton the other guy's court, which they
did. Yeah, and now youjust bring it on home and you close
it out to get you some rest. But if you don't close it,
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that's you're going to be. Tomake a good point, it's not like
the NFL. I'm really against restin the NFL because it's one game,
right and you're out. And thisthis you do have a seven game series
to prove yourself, and you makegreat you make great points about the Thunder
because here's the thing. They playedfour games against the Pelicans. They played,
you know, obviously forty eight minutesevery game. They played forty eight
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minutes of defense every game. I'venever seen a team that didn't have a
defensive laps at all right, infour game series. It's crazy. But
they're like you said, they're young. They are Nate the youngest team in
the history of the NBA to advancein the playoffs. And see, so
you know, and I'm gonna saythis, man, Orlando, Orlando,
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Man, if they want to tooka bad shot about three minutes left in
the game, their main guy wantto took a bad three point shot,
this thing could have been different.Uh, Cleveland to have the veterans that
they have and not smashing Orlando,that's that's that. Dom Bold Well,
I mean I'll watch enough basketball justuh to understand, uh what is happening
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here? And I look at yourthunder. Uh they fear nothing. And
see that's what Jimmy had us whenwe played. We feared nothing. You
you got to show us rad Imean, potential is everything when it's when
it's glued together with performance. Andthese guys with that. With Alexander the
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Great, you call him Guildress,this, that and the other, and
oh my god, he's got likeseven uh seven initials. I mean this,
I should have more respect for thisyoung kid. But until you get
to the next round. Uh,And because everybody gets a little better.
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And uh, I'm hoping they facethe Mavericks. I don't wonder because I
don't like how this team is ranthe Clippers, because they remind me too
much of the Cowboys. A lotof great preseason, a lot of great
preseason, regular season guys, butwhen we get to the playoffs, you
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know these guys. Yeah, Andto your point, Kawhi Leonard, you
know, God bless him. Hejust he can't. He can't answer the
bell, you know, and andso often and when he does, he's
spectacular, but he hasn't been souh yeah they are, and so they're
not a threat. The Mavericks aremore of a threast than they are.
And Jason, give us a betterseries, could make a better series,
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Thunder. I think they have pieces, man, they have And I'm not
a Mavericks fan, y'all, butI am a realist that won't let me
tell you something. I throw allof that who I like and don't like
out of the wind. That you'regonna get the truth and nothing but the
truth. Because you're looking at JohnRadd and Nate Newton. Baby, we
have nothing but the truth. Webring it to you this way because we
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want you to see what you're missingwhen we I'm not stephen A. I'm
not that articulate, and I don'thave an inside scoop to these people.
Nobody but the thunder that's that comesfrom Rad. We have an inside on
that. Other than that, wehave an inside on the Cowboys. I
don't have an inside with the masverage. I can call Chuck Cooper Steen,
but he's busit this time of theyear. I told him, I said,
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text him, Chuck, I'm listeningto you. He good, Thanks
for being so kind. I wantedsome inside news. Cool, I don't
give it. Can give me somescoop, big coople give it to you.
Yeah, but we will. Hey, hey, it's that's a great
place to end at, Nate,because that is the truth. We're gonna
speak the truth. Uh. Wehave told you what we think we have
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gotten back on this. Uh letme tell you something hoarse and we're ready
to gallop. Yes, that soundlike a horse. Fantastic, my brother.
I'm glad we're I'm glad we're backtogether and uh and we'll do it
again next week. Thank you,Rad, I love you. Thank you.
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Hi there. Look who's back.It's Nate Newton. Nate Newton. You
remember Nate. We were here talkingright after the Super Bowl. We said
we'd be back, and here weare right after the Cowboys Draft. And
when Nate is on here, helikes to look right at the camera and
say, let me tell you something. Man, I've missed this rat.
I've I've been through some ups anddowns. But you know the thing about
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the rat. When you ask forsomething, be careful what you ask for.
I wanted to do a double kneereplacement, and Lord Jesus, it
took the Lord to bring me throughit. My beautiful wife Michelle. Boy,
but I'm back up, Brad.Let me tell you, I'm so
glad and your your your mobile andyour and you're recovering and and you're and
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you're ready. Are you ready toplay again? Now? Oh man,
I'm ready to bring some thunderboy.I got like two plays and me that's
to run out on the field.It ran over and run back off the
field. That's all you need onTuesday. Yeah, yeah, I get
that big check. That's right.We kept up with you, you know
via the social media. You weregreat to keep posting and it looked like
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as difficult as it was, allthings went well in all seriousness, didn't
They know? Yeah, and youknow what rap And if you give me
a chance her, let me saythis, and let me tell y'all something.
If you have any trying things aboutlike say high blood diabetes, anywhere
where they have to give you bloodthinners, they cannot give you it's not
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suggested that they give you any antiflammatories. And if you can't have that,
that slows down the healing process.And what it did for me was
I'm trying to eat, I'm tryingto drink, but having those blood thinners
and not have me the antiflammatories keptme in a bunch of pain. So
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I had to just kept changing medicines. Thank God for the doctors and their
assistance that were helping me in Ittook me like two to three, maybe
four weeks before I really got mymedicine adjusted. And then at the end
about four weeks, I found outI was dehydrated because I'm trying to figure
out this pain management. Luckily,my rehab people always found a way to
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get me working and get me going, and I went into the hospital for
like a day rad and they gaveme two bags of fluid. And when
I walked out of the hospital,boy, I made a VIW to myself
because I was feeling so good,because it was all about I did not
maintain the fluids and the proper foodsat the time. And when I walked
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out of the hospital, Man,two or three weeks ago. I had
the surgery on March nineteenth, aboutthree and a half weeks after that.
I was in the hospital for likemaybe six seven hours getting that fluid.
When I walked up out of there, man, I even look back.
Man, I threw my walker away. I don't even know where that's at.
I threw my walker away. I'vebeen walking, been in my rehab.
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People have been beautiful. I mean, if we Gilwis sponsors, I
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we're glad to have you back.We're glad you're healthy. I know
there's not a single athlete, uhprofessional in particular, who has not been
through surgeries and this type of thingbefore. So if one of them slows
an athlete down, man, Iknow it's something because you guys have been
through through all of it before.Yes, man, I mean all those
many corrects finally paid off. Man, and I had a big Uh.
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It's like I say, man,when I when I went in Charles Haley,
a lot of other people say,do both needs, do both needs,
but always look at your situation.I should have been more weary because
I am a diabetic, high bloodthings like that take into account. You
may want to go one knee,then four weeks out go to other knees
because I had a lot of lossof blood. So but you know,
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I'm a believer what God brought methrough. And man, I just feel
good. Rat and I'm here man, and we time is so perfect,
rad I mean, we said we'llbe back right around the draft. Here
it is. The draft has happened, and I'm excited the playoffs. Man,
the thunder the Mavericks are stilling contention. I mean, just anything that's
connected to me and you what doyou want to talk about? What do
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you Zeke is back with a newnumber. I mean, I'm excited.
So here's the thing, with theNFL Draft being where it is now,
and with the uh, you know, playoffs in basketball and in hockey,
and then Major League Baseball starting April. Now, I've been a sportscaster for
forty years, Nate, April isthe busiest month in sport of the year.
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It's unbelievable. Just like, hey, just like last night in DFW,
fans are sitting there watching, youknow, the Stars start at six
thirty, the Rangers at seven,the Mavericks at nine, and man,
that is a full plate of sportsright there, you know. And we
had a pretty good night in theDFW because the Stars won and the MAVs
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killed just killed the Clippers. SoI like that. We'll talk a little
bit more about that, and we'lltalk. We will talk. Look at
here, Look what I got,Nate, see my cup? Yeah?
Yeah, I see you coming LahomaCity Thunder baby. Yeah, that's who
I've been working with this offseason.And I'm going to talk about the Thunder
because they're really good. But butwe got to go first things. First,
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name, yes, the Cowboys.Yes, what in the heck when
we last talked. Now, Idid like this. When we last talked,
you said, what the Cowboys needis a big linebacker, a big
run stuff and linebacker. They gotto get a linebacker in there who can
help slow down these running games.And while they haven't done they did you
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know, they brought in Eric Kendricks. Okay, but but while they haven't
done a ton in that area,what they did do is they change the
mentality of the defense because Mike Zimmercame in here, Nate, and Mike
Zimmer's whole mentality is exactly what youwere saying. Get off of this,
you know, a bunch of littlescat guys running around being quick and crazy.
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Get some big hosses in there andstop the run the thing. It's
all right to have the great passrushers, but in this league, one
thing you don't want is to havea two way go. Last year,
it's good at coaches, we hadwho's wit Now with the Washington Enemy commanders,
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you know, we let go.Well, he got a head coaching
job. And I'm not gonna callhis name because once you leave, my
beloved Cowboys, your name is notto be mentioned again. But now we
have Mike Zim who's dedicated to understandingthat you dictate to the offense. You
can either run or you can pass, but you would not be able to
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dictate us both and when you desireto do it. Mike Zimmers went out
and drafted those type guys. Wehave pass rushers, but now we have
guys that are dedicated to the run. Where when we go to practice in
the spring, I mean out toThousand Oaks, California, we will see
people dedicated to run, stopping.We will have a unit that would run
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in on first and second down andrun situations where these guys are going to
be dedicated first to stop and therun. Because Ray listen to me.
Now listen to me. Let metell y'all something. And I've told everybody
this and this is what confirmed itfor me. They had love. The
quarterback for the Green Bay Packers,young guy tell Michael Parsons on his podcast,
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you can go back and get itstreaming. That's what I think about
streaming. You can pull it backup. He said. All we wanted
to do was when we got ina tight and it was a and it
was anyway I call it any waydown where you can run a pass,
They said, We just gonna run. Y'all. Were just gonna run the
ball over the last seven to eightyears. Whenever you wanted to beat the
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Dallas Cowboys, whenever we got inbig game situations, tight situations, team
just ran the ball. They dictatedwhen they was gonna pass, but they
mostly just ran the ball. Zimis gonna stop that. That is our
first round pick. They got Tylergotten, but our first round pick is
Zim. He's he's gonna make it. He's gonna he's gonna be a factor
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in what we're doing against the runthis year. Yeah. Yeah, And
that's kind of exactly what I wassaying, Nate. It'll it'll change philosophically
now, which again is huge.And do you have the players? I
mean, I think there probably arethe players in place. And then you
know they did draft a couple ofmore. Their second pick was now he
was he's kind of more of apass rusher that Mark Markshawn Kneeling. Uh,
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but you know he's a he's adefensive end. Say, you know,
you might push him over there tostop the run. You do whatever
you can, uh, you know, to get bigger and to get better
at that. Right, you knowwhat most of these guys, if you
look at their totals, they're notsack guys. They're not sack guys.
They're they're guys that does have heavyhands. What I mean by that they
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jamming, They getting their hands asideand they looking for run stop first and
they run to the ball with highmotors. What you look for if you
can't get that pure pass rusher isyou look for that guy that has that
high motor. You know, aguy that with a high motor that's always
jamming looking for that ball. Hecan turn into a pass rusher. You
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can get pass rush uh goodness outof a guy like that. They not
never be great as pass rushers,but they will have that ability to rush
the passer along with that ability tostop the run. And those are the
type of guys that he got itin marsh On and even in the cornerbacks
that he got. You know,these guys can come up, Carlene Carson
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four years person, Yeah, theseguys played four years Await. These guys
are gonna come up and be physical, and that is what we've been lacking
in games where teams dictated us.Zim is not gonna let that happen.
You may run, you may throwfor four hundred yards, but you're not
gonna have another one hundred and fiftyyards rushing. You may rush for four
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hundred yards, but you're gonna haveanother two hundred and fifty yards passing.
You're gonna have to get them oneone way or other so they can dictate
to you. And I think that'swhat Zim is going to bring to this
team. All right, So bigpicture, I like that we talked about
the defense and how we definitely thinkjust with that first round pick, as
you said, Mike Zimmer, it'llbe improved. But big picture, Nate,
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and you've been around this thing alittle longer than I have, because
well, in fact, you telegraphedit earlier. You've been around it so
long. You think they're still goingto Thousand Oaks for training camps in nineteen
ninety. Yeah, they're going toox SNAr. You go past Yea on
twe back then. I went backto the Landril and you did, Wow,
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you did? You went back,man. So that's how long you've
been around. I've been around almostas long. My first year covering Cowboy
training camp was that first year inAustin. But anyway, in that time
that I've been here, Nate,I have never seen the Cowboys fan base
as disgruntled and upset about an offseason as they've been this year. Now.
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The Cowboys let eight walk, right, they let eight people leave the
organization and free agency, and theyreally haven't done a lot. They brought
Zeke back this week, we mentionedthat, and they brought in Eric Kendricks,
as we said, but they haven'tdone a lot to recoup what they
lost. They're hoping they'll get someof that out of the draft. But
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what about this offseason. I mean, it feels like the Cowboys are depleted
and significantly worse than they were lastyear. Rad do you want the truth?
Can you handle the truth? Ican handle the truth. I want
you on that wall. This isa rebuild. This has nothing to do
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with can you win twelve to thirteengames. This is a rebuild. You
have two young offers, linemen youdrafted in the first three rounds. You
have another guy you've drafted in theseventh round, a guy that we're going
to try to put at center.This is a rebuild. This is about
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trying to rededicate yourself and rebuild yourselfin your image. To being a morph
physical team. You got ceedee lamb. They talk about resigning it, they
talk about resigning that. This isa rebuild. My brother, we let
a lot of people walk. Ifyou wasn't under contract, Jonathan Hankins,
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how do you let your one runstopping guy leave you? You you asking
for Masie Smith to stand up andput on back another twenty five pounds that
he lost to last year and beatthat run soup. You actually want him
to reset his mind. This isa rebuild. This is about changing your
culture, and that is what MikeCilari Zim Mike Clari's offensive line coach.
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Zim is your offensers defensive coordinator andcoach McCarthy. I believe in him.
I think he's here even after thisyear. Because you don't want to change
this thing is a rebuild. Youdon't want to go out and get a
new head coach or this is ah. I don't know if you want to
call a soft rebuild a slow rebuild, but this is a rebuild all together.
You let too many people walk thatwere pertinent in what we did it
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as a defense and offensive last year. Okay, so along those lines,
and you mentioned you know coach McCarthy. He's on the last year of deal.
Zim has a one year deal.Dak has not been signed up for
after next year. That's right,Ceedee Lamb has not been signed up.
They did exercise the option on MichaelParsons for at least a couple more years.
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But do I read into this thatin this first year of a rebuild,
if things don't go as planned,any or all of those men who
are on the last year of adeal could be gone. Yes, I
mean, trade it whatever, becausethere was. We have never been in
the last seven years six years,never been in a rush with free agency.
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But during the second week we alwayssigned someone to let people know that,
Okay, this is the better qualityguy for the money that we have
stored away for it. They didn'teven bother. I mean, I'm actually
the cowboy fans to look at thetruth, look at what is real.
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They didn't. Zeke is our biggestoff season acquisition. They shouldn't have never
let him go. I told everybodylast year forget about Oh, we don't
want to hurt his feelings by offeringhim three mil. Guess what he just
took. Guess what he played forlast year? Guess what he's playing for
this year. Zeke likes football.He loves football. He's a team guy.
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You shouldn't have let him got outof the building last year. That
we could have gotten more out ofTony Polt because our offensive line was getting
older. But be it that Zekeis our biggest acquisition. I like what
he brings the room. I likewhat he does for us, the team
mentality, because that fits in withwhat Zim and Mike celari is. That's
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toughness, that's greatness. But thisis what it is. It's a rebuild.
Handle it, deal with it,don't get don't don't let it.
We running to the super Bowl?Yeah, you run into the super Bowl,
all right, on a rebuild.So where do the expectations sit?
Then the expectations I think that thatCowboys can make the playoffs. It would
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be a struggle because now you gottwo new offensive linemen. You got a
right tackle that's in his second yearoff of a major knee surgery. You
got an agent right right guard thatstill got all pro written all of him
if he's healthy. But you gottafind the center. You gotta find the
center. And they says, BBis this guy. Yeah, Cooper b
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But you know what, Hoffman hassomething to say about that. Now.
TJ. Bass has something to sayabout that. It's gonna be very for
the first time. And I thinkin two or three years we got competitive
guys. That's gonna if the coachesdo it right. We don't have enough
young guys, I mean enough oldguys where guys can be missing practice.
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If you're going to start BB atcenter, he should be taking snaps right
now. If he got a wifeor a little kid, he should have
his hands between daddy's legs, awhite husband snapping that ball. You know
what I'm saying, I'm just beinghonest, because you cannot afford to be
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into the middle of the season.We can't wait till the first regular season
games say oh he really can't playcenter. Now we need to know this,
and we need to know it now. You know, give him every
snap that him and Hoffman battle thisthing out right now, or TJ.
Bass or whoever you're going to putin there. Yeah, all right,
so that's great. The all incomments from Jerry Jones obviously misled such a
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large, you know, percentage ofCowboy fans. They took him at his
word and that is uh, that'ssomething right. When you've been around Jerry
as much as you have, yourecognize and realize that sometimes he says things
that are good for other parts ofthe organization, right, marketing or this
or that or the other thing,and not necessarily what is the actual fact
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of what is happening is that sortof what happened here. The thing is,
mister Jones is always going to beexcited. He was excited when he
was getting ready to go to Arkansasand he was selling tennis shoes at the
back of his car. He wasexcited. He was telling everybody, you
know, he had the best tennisshoes. You didn't have to go to
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kmart or j C. Pennas toget these shoes. The sears robut them
sores back when I was growing up. You know what I'm saying. You
didn't have to go to that andget the blue light special. He had
it right to back his car athalf the price. He was excited.
He probably sold every pair. Hadyou believe that you had original shoes and
you bust out them in the lessthan two months. But that's how it
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is. If you cannot understand,see, let me say something to you.
Rad. Let me tell you something. There's podcasts and then there's podcast
Come to if you want the truthand you can handle the truth, come
see John Raddigan and Nate Newton andlet me tell you something. This is
a rebuild, folks. This isa rebuild to give Mike McCarthy that can
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bring us to ten games, ninegames or eleven games. He should have
another contract because you got a newdefensive coordinator, you got a great offensive
line coach. Now you know that'swhat it is. It's a soft rebuild.
You know, really it's a hardrebuild. But I just want to
give a soft blow, you knowwhat I'm saying to the to the fans.
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I'm the reason why, I'm thestability. You know, Me and
you Rad, We're gonna bring thetruth and nothing but the truth. Yeah.
So do you believe Nate that thatwas the plan from you know,
basically the day after the Green game, Green Bay game. Oh yeah,
when when they sat down a weeka day or two after, like where
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are we right now? They hadit starts with the money, Okay,
sixty million for a quarterback twenty one, twenty two million for a defensive ends
slash linebacker twenty one million at mostfor a wide receiver. Can we afford
this? Okay, big money camefor the Sarah cap A lot of teams
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jumped on it. You see theGiants, you've seen philadep you went out
and stole the Giants running back.You see guys move around. But you
also saw Buffalo let a great widereceiver go. So it's just all about
what you want to do. Doyou want to build a team. Do
you have a quarter Because it's allpredicated on the quarterback. The Bills went
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out and found them a wide receiverin the draft that they think they can
replace Diggs. Okay, that's all, And well, what are you saying
is that your quarterback is capable ofenough of carrying your team. Well,
we see who Dak is. Dakis a great regular season quarterback. But
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Dak needs that super receiver. Heneeds Ceed Lamb, he needs Brandon Cook,
he needs the good tight end thatwe have. All we have to
do now is put an offensive linein place so we don't have to put
that pressure on Dak when the playoffscome. But now, do you give
him sixty million dollars a year?I don't know that. I'm not gonna
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say yeah, nay, but lethis body of work during the playoffs speak
for itself. So anybody who's evermet Dak, yourself, me, and
the guys in the locker room,you get such a feeling from that guy
he is. He is so greatin that room. He's just very interpersonal,
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very easy to get along with.Front only great guy. Everybody that
knows him and knows him well loveshim, and even those of us who
I just know him from the peripherya little bit. He's just a great
guy. There's nothing not to likeabout Dak Prescott the human being. It's
hard to weigh in on this,but we're gonna speak the truth. Can
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he take that step and be thatguy that's good in the playoffs as well?
Nate's eight years. Yeah, it'sbeen eight years. He had a
hell of a great regular season lastyear he grew into the guy that we
thought, but he he panicked inthe playoffs. That's when you should be
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cool as ice water, my brother, that's when you should be an Alaskan
snow cap or iceberg. As yousee an iceberg, you see very little
on the top, but if youlook up on the water, you see
like two miles of ice because he'sso cool and so smooth, and that's
how Troy used to be and he'snot Troy and and so that's gonna get
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it twisted. But that is whathe has to do. He should have
calmed himself and and and and andstarted, uh just showing people who he
is. And it's been eight years. Uh so now you have to make
a hell of a decision of misterJones, Mister Stephen Jones, Miss Charlotte
Jones, Will McClay, y'all haveto sit down and say, do we
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get this guy fifty million dollars ayear? Do we continue to build our
team and and and and just seewhere he's at if that wants. You
know, Minnesota cut their losses withwith Cousins, and even when Cousins went
went to Atlanta, they gave himone hundred and eighty mil most of the
guaranteed. But they say, weknow what We're gonna find us a young
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guy. Uh. I don't knowwhat they got on the roster uh with
these young guys. Uh, butthis is this this this be a backbreaking
move. If they signed Dak's abig money and he doesn't perform in the
playoffs. What are you looking at? What is your future? Because you
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got a lot of money wrapped upand guys still need to be paid.
Yeah. Yeah, boy, it'sa decision that I am so glad I
do not have to make. Andagain, obviously the Jones family and all
those the Joneses and Will McLay thatyou mentioned, they know him way better
than we do. He's such alikable guy. But you can't just you
can't just resign him because you likehim. You have to re sign him
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because you have confidence he can takeyou to that next level. And again,
Nate, uh, most of thequarterbacks who have had really good success
in the playoffs, they're generally youngerthan what Dak is already. Yes,
yes, uh, you know,you know you don't want to smear a
guy's name. You don't want to, But I'm about performance. Potential is
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great in your first two years,you know, I look at Matt Lasca
and a few other guys that playon offensive line. A great potential potential
will get you fired. Bill Parcellshas tried to preach that all of his
disciples that have come under him knowsthis, believes in this potential will get
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you fired every time performance after twoyears. A guy like Mazzi, Mazzie
can't come in here this year stumbling, bumbling, then he got to be
gone next year because potential what wesaw at Michigan does not count in the
NFL. This thing, this leagueis not for loon That's what NFL mean,
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not for long. You know,if you can't perform up to a
certain standard, you going You know, see the advantages that quarterbacks have.
There's only maybe ten or twelve goodquarterbacks in the league. So you're scared
when you don't get one of thoseguys because if they're gone, you you
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you got a average you got anaverage guy, below average guy, and
you got to make a decision.You know, do you build your team
up and wait on this guy likea lot of better teams in the league
have done, or do you goout and get one of these ten or
twelve guys and overpay. Well,that's don't have that does not go for
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linebackers, that does not go fordefensive lineman, that does not go for
most offensive linemen. You either haveit, get paid, or don't have
it and just shuffle around the league. And right now that's the situation.
A lot of guys are in Well, it's a it's a remarkably interesting off
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season already. And I think thefact that, as we mentioned, so
many of the guys are on thatlast year of the deal, it's it's
really going to be telling, isn'tit. If to see if the Cowboys
do some sort of a reworking oran extension of Dak or an extension of
C. D. Lamb before trainingcamp, isn't it? I mean that
will tell us a lot about theshort term direction sort of after the rebuilt
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Yes, yes, do you wantto go into twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty four. I'm not looking forbig things. I'm looking for Mike McCarthy
to put it in place, agrowth plan of where he wanted this offensive
line to be by eight to ninegames in. How is he gonna use
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his plethora of running backs? Youknow? How is he gonna continue to
develop Cede Lamb and other young guysthat I receivers that took steps last year?
How is he gonna do that?You know, I'm not a guy
that just falls into Okay, we'rethe Dallas Cowboys, you know, who
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haven't been to the second round ofthe playoffs in over thirty years. I'm
not one of those. I'm notgullible. I'm a realist. I've won.
I know what it takes to rebuild. I know what the attitude it
takes. So and I end Ican tell people, you know, no,
knock on what has happened, becauseMike McCarthy's giving you twelve wins the
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last two years, but he's gonnahave to do a masterful job of getting
you ten eleven wins this year.A masterful job. Look at it.
You look, you pull up theschedule, pull it up rad and you
can see disaster written all over it. You can't stumble in the first half
of this season and hope to recover. No, No, it's a great
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point. Well that's wonderful, man, that's a great thumbnail of what has
happened thus far. In the offseason, when we get together and let me
tell you something. You know,we're always talking cowboys and we will.
But Nate, you like the restof the Metroplex has jumped on board,
as you should with this Dallas Mavericksteam that finished the regular season sixteen and
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two, right there, last eighteengames, sixteen and two. What we're
seeing is excuse me, We're sayingthat we're seeing Luca and Kyrie get along
so well, and we're seeing apresence in the middle with Daniel Gafford and
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the young fella, and I wonderif they have caught your attention and are
you are you buying into this Mavericksgroup. They're up in the series with
the Clippers now after winning out there. The thing that amazes me is Jason
Kidd and the ownership have done amaster for job, master for job of
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soothing Kyrie, of allowing Kyrie andLuca to mash and to become uh special.
A lot of guys. I haven'twatched a lot of basketball, especially
when I went down with these knees. Uh. That's all I had was
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the playoffs, and I just basicallywatched it and study nobody. But my
hat's off. It's to Jason Kiddand the way he's defined everybody roll where
their upper management is, went outand got guys who have stepped up and
did what they had to do.Uh. You see where they have made
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adjustments to Harden, They made adjustmentsto the other guy. Uh that that
is uh Paul George. And sothey made adjustments and that comes from coaching,
man, That come from coaching,being able to relate to your players,
doing what you have to do.They they they say, you know
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what we we still see Let's goback to the to the beginning. No
one projected the Dallas Mavericks to bein this playoff run where they're located right
now. No one projected that out. Everybody will go out and tell you,
oh, yeah, we we knewthe Mavericks. Know you didn't because
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half the Metroplex was like, whydid we why did we sign Kyrie?
Oh? And the other half like, lord Jesus, if we can just
but they found a way and morelike McCarthy has to do the same.
They like you said, It wassixteen and four closing out the season,
and then the first playoff game againstthe Clippers was disastrous and there was no
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Kyrie, and they came back anddid what they had to do. And
this was a pivotal fifth game andwhat they beat them one hundred and twenty
three to tell ninety three, beatthem by thirty. Yeah, man,
beat the draws off matter. Likewe sit back in the day, I
hope I ain't offending them. Beattheir draws off them. That goes off,
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you know, Lucas said after thatloss, They're like, wow,
I'm letting Kyrie down. Well,he let Kyrie set tempo the other night
and he just followed in and thenhe enforced his will at the end of
the game when he needed to slowit down. My hat's off to him.
And the two centers they got.Oh my god, yeah, Oh
my god. Man, the twocenters they got. It's unbelievable in realm,
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protecting guys doing their jobs being whothey have to be. What are
you gonna do, Rad, Whatare you gonna do? Here's what I'm
gonna do. First is I'm gonnagive you two other people who deserve credit
on the Kyrie thing, right,okay. One is Nico Harrison, their
general manager, who kind of sawthis thing, you know, being possible.
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Nico has done a great job there. But the other person, Nate,
is Kyrie. Yes, it's Kyriebecause he could have come in here.
We see when he took over inthat thirty they lost that game where
they were down thirty one, cameall the way back to take the lead
and then ended up losing it.But game four, I guess that was
at home. But Kyrie took overthat game. They never get back in
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that game. If Kyrie doesn't takethat game over, you see what he
can do. And yet he realizes, Man, this thing is Lucas and
I'm gonna be over here and I'mgonna be ready to do whatever I need
to do. And that is noteasy for a superstar. He's a superstar,
and it's not easy for a superstar? Is it to sort of take
a back seat? If you willlike that in any way? You know,
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I tell you, man, itjust reminds me of Michael Irvin,
who was like the heart and soulof it. But Troy was our leader.
You know, he was unquestionable.But you will see Michael Irvin take
over some time and get in place. And that is a testament to Luca
growth. You know. Now,Luke ain't gonna never stop crying, no
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re else. He ain't gonna neverstop begging and winding. So ignore that,
learn to ignore that. That's justwho he is. That's just superstitsious
little thing as a superstar. That'shis little kick, a little side advice
that I'm gonna complain. I don'tcare let that happen. He's he's smart
enough to know when the back upand shut up. So but he's all
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but he but for him to growand let let this guy that's second to
him, they want to call himRobins, do what he has to do.
Man, But you know, Washington, Jones, all of these guys
have oh man, my cat's offto Jason Kidd being able to make adjustments.
Man, when they took that thirtyone point lead, you saw automatically
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Jason Kidd say, you know what, pick the pace up. Let's go,
let's go, and he knew,who Kyrie, I need you now,
I need you to pick this paceup, Luca, let him pick
this pace up. And they tookthat into the fifth game. That's a
very pivotal game. You're over eightypercent when you win that fifth game.
So now all they got to dois come back home and handle their business.
And that's gonna that's gonna be thebackbreaker. Man. Yeah, you
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know that's that's and it's that's exactlyright. It's too simple. When you
know, if we start even andwe go to the halftime tied up,
down two points, we got enoughdepth. They can't handle us. The
Mavericks has enough depth and a goodenough coach that you can't handle us.
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God forbid, the Mavericks get afive or six or ten point league going
into the half. They threw Hardenis playing his best playoff basketball. He
could play. George is playing hisbest playoff basketball. But Kyrie, like
Dak, they got to make adecision on him. They got to make
a decision or the Clippers got tomake a decision on him. If you're
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gonna keep giving a guy thirty fortymillion dollars for not for not playing,
showing up in the playoffs, eventhough every team, whether you Denver,
whether you're Philadelphia, whether you theKnicks, every team has lost players in
the playoffs, and now it's comingdown to your coach and your star players
to adjusting. You may and doyou have enough depth? That's why the
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Sons are sitting home. You hadthree players that could not mash. You're
gonna blame it on your head coach, which he's not the problem when you
know you needed a point. God, I mean, come on, man,
management can't be that stupid? Ohcan they? Maybe they can,
because what they've done in that league, Nate, in that league, they
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have let the team be run ifyou will, from the bottom up right,
from the players up, instead offrom the top the ownership and the
general manager down. A lot ofthese teams are run from the bottom up,
which again the bottom. Those dudesmake more money in you. I
can deal with you know, Ican deal with players moaning and groaning,
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but I can't deal with owners thatcan't get out the way. And I'm
gonna jump. I'm gonna jump allthe way to something that's another sport.
I feel so bad for the headcoach, Frank I can't think of the
name it was. He got firedby the Panthers. This coach wanted the
kid that's down in Houston for hisnumber one pick. Management overrode him.
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You bring in a coach who's aquarterback guru. He tells you he wants
the kid in Houston. You sayno and get the kid from Bama.
Guess what he saw something you didn'ttrust in him. Frank Vogel came in
and said, I need a point. God, I'm begging for a point.
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God. You tell him that BradleyBill is your point. God.
Really, an ultra number two?An ultra number two. You had three
number two's running around there in Phoenix, you know, and you never gave
Frank Vogel. You fire Frank Vogel, That is dumb. Get him a
guard and let him work. It'sjust amazing how it used to be general
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managers, uh, player personnel guysthat you could have. How you gonna
fire somebody you never gave him theproper tools? Wow? Wow, man,
I can go on and on.You know, people say how mister
Jones dibble and dabble, But forthe most part, Steven Will McLay and
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guys like that and that, they'rethey're they're making a lot of calls and
they're bringing the information to mister Jonesand and and I've never known him just
to go, hey man, Idon't care what y'all say. Yeah,
even with even with Atlanta and andwhat they did there and getting the kid
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out of Washington, they they toldthey owner, hey man, we're gonna
get our future quarterback. And intwo years, if he's playing, we
can let this guy go. Ifnot, we still got a guy,
you know, because Atlanta got piecesin place, but they want to give
it a shot with a guy that'sthat's got some guy got some moxy to
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him. I've never been about fansare players choosing players. Troy, as
great as he is, choose hechose a couple of tight ends and they
was garbage. Come on, man, you as the That's why you that's
why you get millions and millions andbillions of dollars of letting people scout all
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over the country twenty four to seven. And then you don't and then you
okay, come draft, say ohyeah, well we want we don't want
that guy, and you get foryou fire Frank Wright. Is that the
guy levels for the Panthers? Youfire him? But the guy down in
Houston lighten it up? Yeah?Come on, man, yeah, yeah,
come on. I agree. Iagree. You've got to let your
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football. And I think you're right. I think Jerry does do this right.
Yes, if Jerry lets his football, people you know a sway him,
let him, you know, atleast at least help him. Hey,
if you set up on the tablefor a guy, Jerry gonna hold
you accountab before it. If youall up on the table, man,
you know, undress yourself. Youknow, got button nicker and hollering and
screaming down up and down the table, Jerry, say all right, bet
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your life on it, bet yourkids and your family on it because it
don't work. I'm getting rid ofyou, okay, but you didn't even
give Frank Write a chance. Man. I'm not saying this kid couldn't have
came to the Panthers and changed something, but man I would. I would
at least would have gave my mykid coach opportunity to have the guy he
wanted. Yeah, he sure madea quick change in Houston, Yes he
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did. We weren't expecting that outof them. Yes, wow, right,
they're gonna be good this year too. All right, So if the
MAVs win. Right now, they'relike the only lower seed in the playoffs
that's having any success. The higherseeds and in the playoffs across the board
in the NBA are doing better.It's early, but anyway, if the
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MAVs win, this is who theytake on. Nate Oklahoma City Thunder.
Now, I've been doing Thunder preand postgame shows for fifteen years in the
baseball off season. Did him thisyear? Again? I know you've watched
some Thunder, oh yeah, andbelieve it or not, and I've enjoyed
it. This is a great organization. They do a great job. They've
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rebuilt like that. Okay, Buthere's the thing. I'm not sure.
I'm sure. I think the MAVsare one of the teams that can actually
take this number one seed that justswept through the first round. I think
the MAVs could take them down.The here's why. Yeah, Chet Holmgren
is a great player. He isgoing to be a superstar in this league.
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But the Oklahoma City Thunder, ifthey have a weakness, it is
inside. Okay, the MAVs havenot only one, but two guys Yafford
and Lively, that they can throwat the inside right and they and by
the way, those guys can goout with Chat Holmgren because he'll do that
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on you. He'll try to drawyou outside because he wants to get you
away from the basket. Well,you know they can do that. When
when the Mavericks, i mean,the Thunder just swept the New Orleans Pelicans,
you know, Jonas Valachunis can't dothat. He can't go out.
He's got to stay by the basket. These guys can do that. They
can hang with Chat wherever. Heruns around like a crazy man. But
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they have much more beef and muchmore strengthen and they are a team and
there's I don't think there's that manythat have that that double whim inside on.
I think that double whim He's gonnahelp him. Nate seven feet one,
two hundred and eight pounds. Butyou're saying he ain't heavy enough yet,
he ain't strong enough. He's notand he's not strong enough. I
mean, and this dude, Nate, this dude is unbelievably talented. He
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is. He is like Victor wemBinyama. He can. I'm telling you,
I've seen this cat take a rebound, come down the floor, dribble
between his legs, work around somebody, and you know, lay it up
in or either dunk it. Andhe is. He's a magician. He's
fantastic. He's just in his firstyear playing. He was on the team
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last year but hurt the whole year. He's fantastic. But he just needs
to get bigger and stronger and moreforceful in the middle. And he will.
I think he will. I mean, they've got a great strength and
conditioning program, and I see yourlords is swinging over us old old dunches
and his potners and all of that. But how did these guys become number
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one seeded? If they given ofall of this disadvantage that you're talking about,
you saying disadvantage with most teams,and the Cat he did unbelievably.
He had really good games, believethis or not against Jokic, who is
the best at that position and whoalso can chase you around as a big
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man. Right. So he roseto that level three times this year when
they played Denver, and they losttwo of them. But he played well,
right, which is a good sign. That said, most teams in
the NBA anymore don't have that sortof dominant big man. Everybody. You
know, everybody on most teams islike a six eight everything, right,
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They're all six eight and they canall do everything. And that's sort of
the the way teams are built inthe league. But now you get these
big fellas like Webbin Yama and likeChet Holmgren. I'm not saying Chet's won't
be a great player. He willbe unbelievable. He's don't have the experience.
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He doesn't I don't. I thinkthis Mavericks team is one of the
very few that could beat the Thoughtwell, and I think the Celtics would
beat them or probably anybody else thisyear too. They're highly motivated. But
but this Mavericks team, I thinkis a team in the West, you
know, in Denver. Obviously Denvercould beat the Thunder too, but the
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home city, Yeah, they're good. Man regular season, at the last
minute, they had enough ahead ofDenver Minnesota Timberwolves, who coach is a
great has a great coach. Ijust and you were saying that your Dallas
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Mavericks now since you're gonna switch backover, your Dallas Mavericks got enough to
thump at these boys. I thinkthey do. I think that double WHEMMI
inside is enough to do it becausethey also have you know what the what
the Thunder have too, obviously isthey have really good guard play there.
So their best three players are ChetHolmgren, Shake Gilgess, Alexander Is,
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you know, an All Star starterthis year and a superstar. And then
you know they got two Jalen Williams. This one they called Jay Dumb and
he's a big He's a big osixty six guard. You know. Uh,
the same thing with Shaye He's abig six to six guard six seven
maybe. And these big fellas arereally good in the backward well so are
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Kyrie Irving. Even though he's alittle smaller and Luka Doncics right, so
you match them there and if youcan outdo Chet with your double whammy at
the big point, you know thatthat this post position, you know you've
got an opportunity. Now I'm afraidabout Luca. I will say this because
that knee, even though he wassick in Game five and still came through
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fairly well, that knee is problematic. He doesn't look the same. So
hopefully they'll be able to get himsome you know, some healing on that
knee. But I think that theMAVs can beat him. Yeah. The
thing that I see with your Thunderteam is Shae. What is his name?
Shae? All these first names andeight last names pronounced that for me,
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you'll just Alexander, I mean Alexanderthe Great when the last time you've
seen a guy who just can distributethe ball can take over a game when
he needs to, like Luca,big enough to get in there with Luca,
He's gonna be uh forced Luca toplay both offensively and defensively with that
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need. That could be a problem. They have big enough guys their guard
position to to to go after youas your at your Robin for there.
The these kids don't fear they gotan home court advantage. And the way
this thing look, one team isgoing to be rested and one team is
going to be beat up. I'mnever a fan of rest. I'm really
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not. Okay, i am becauseyou saw whether uh the one time they
were rested, and I'm talking aboutyour Mavericks. Okay, they looked at
bad one games. But this isa seven game series. Yeah, so
you got to win. You wenton the other guy's court, which they
did. Yeah, and now youjust bring it on home and you close
it out to get you some rest. But if you don't close it,
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that's you're going to be. Tomake a good point, it's not like
the NFL. I'm really against restin the NFL because it's one game,
right and you're out. And thisthis you do have a seven game series
to prove yourself, and you makegreat you make great points about the Thunder
because here's the thing. They playedfour games against the Pelicans. They played,
you know, obviously forty eight minutesevery game. They played forty eight
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minutes of defense every game. I'venever seen a team that didn't have a
defensive laps at all right, infour game series. It's crazy. But
they're like you said, they're young. They are Nate the youngest team in
the history of the NBA to advancein the playoffs. And see, so
you know, and I'm gonna saythis, man, Orlando, Orlando,
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Man, if they want to tooka bad shot about three minutes left in
the game, their main guy wantto took a bad three point shot,
this thing could have been different.Uh, Cleveland to have the veterans that
they have and not smashing Orlando,that's that's that. Dom Bold Well,
I mean I'll watch enough basketball justuh to understand, uh what is happening
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here? And I look at yourthunder. Uh they fear nothing. And
see that's what Jimmy had us whenwe played. We feared nothing. You
you got to show us rad Imean, potential is everything when it's when
it's glued together with performance. Andthese guys with that. With Alexander the
(49:40):
Great, you call him Guildress,this, that and the other, and
oh my god, he's got likeseven uh seven initials. I mean this,
I should have more respect for thisyoung kid. But until you get
to the next round. Uh,And because everybody gets a little better.
(50:00):
And uh, I'm hoping they facethe Mavericks. I don't wonder because I
don't like how this team is ranthe Clippers, because they remind me too
much of the Cowboys. A lotof great preseason, a lot of great
preseason, regular season guys, butwhen we get to the playoffs, you
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know these guys. Yeah, Andto your point, Kawhi Leonard, you
know, God bless him. Hejust he can't. He can't answer the
bell, you know, and andso often and when he does, he's
spectacular, but he hasn't been souh yeah they are, and so they're
not a threat. The Mavericks aremore of a threast than they are.
And Jason, give us a betterseries, could make a better series,
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Thunder. I think they have pieces, man, they have And I'm not
a Mavericks fan, y'all, butI am a realist that won't let me
tell you something. I throw allof that who I like and don't like
out of the wind. That you'regonna get the truth and nothing but the
truth. Because you're looking at JohnRadd and Nate Newton. Baby, we
have nothing but the truth. Webring it to you this way because we
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want you to see what you're missingwhen we I'm not stephen A. I'm
not that articulate, and I don'thave an inside scoop to these people.
Nobody but the thunder that's that comesfrom Rad. We have an inside on
that. Other than that, wehave an inside on the Cowboys. I
don't have an inside with the masverage. I can call Chuck Cooper Steen,
but he's busit this time of theyear. I told him, I said,
(51:29):
text him, Chuck, I'm listeningto you. He good, Thanks
for being so kind. I wantedsome inside news. Cool, I don't
give it. Can give me somescoop, big coople give it to you.
Yeah, but we will. Hey, hey, it's that's a great
place to end at, Nate,because that is the truth. We're gonna
speak the truth. Uh. Wehave told you what we think we have
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gotten back on this. Uh letme tell you something hoarse and we're ready
to gallop. Yes, that soundlike a horse. Fantastic, my brother.
I'm glad we're I'm glad we're backtogether and uh and we'll do it
again next week. Thank you,Rad, I love you. Thank you.
Spen's a bad hime producer and we'relooking for sponsors Baby, because we
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