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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Got stepped up?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You asked?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Got jamar and a franchise record sixteen catches in a
game of this magnitude is spectacular.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Jack your emotions touchdown, Prider Sports. Put them and ain't
coming back off.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's a huge one we need to do. We just
had been too long since we've won. And so when
you're fighting for all these things that we fight for,
and these guys just keep keep coming at as a
coach who just keeps sticking with it, I see it
coming and for you need the results. And so we
got the results, and now there was no non believers
in that locker room. We knew what we're capable of
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and we can see and we just had to put
it together. But it is significant to find a divisional
win be two and oh in the division right now,
at the right people in the locker room, and when
you get to enjoy that feeling. I know it's just
an early September feeling. This isn't December January, but it's
still meaningful. And these guys earned it because they've just
kept plugging along and they have known that we're close
to these games. That's a good football team, so to
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be too, and over the division right in the thick
of everything that we've been talking about, with another home
game coming out, chance to get healthy this next couple
of days. Really really just proud of the guys and
the effort and happy to get a win.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
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horrific A tsunami, a Bengal the Orange and White has
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rolled over the city of Pittsburgh and arkens back to
the Great Flood of nineteen three when the fountain in
downtown Pittsburgh was covered by forty foot of I don't
know what year that was, I know it's happened a
couple of times. It is the morning after three Rivers
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Stadium was blown up. Just that it feels like your
prom queen's date stood you up on Prom night. That's
what it feels like this Friday morning as I record
this show.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
As your Pittsburgh Steelers, they not only.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Stubbed stubbed, but their toe in Cincinnati. It's whoops. Here
we go again with the Pittsburgh Tomlins. I started out
this segment by playing you the Zach Taylor press conference
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following the game, the Cincinnati Kitti Kats head coach. I
think it's more important that in this segment we focus
on the perspective from the Bengals of why they won
that game. You can hear the shock, the dismay, the
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pleasure in his voice that they beat the Steelers. Throughout
Zach Taylor's postgame press conference. You hear him time and
time again, elude, drop jelly beans to find your way
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back to the tree of truth. That the Bengals didn't
think they had a snowballs chance.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
In hades.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Of winning that game. They viewed it as their super Bowl.
They played it like their super Bowl with their forty
one year old quarterback versus our forty one year old
quarter back. The Bengals are delighted that their thirtieth thirty
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first grand whatever it is, crappy offense with a horrible
the worst O line in the league beat your Pittsburgh
Steelers and put up over thirty points. As you look
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at why you have to categorize this thing in three areas.
Is it Mike Tomlin's fault, was it the defensive scheme
your Pittsburgh Steelers decided to play whatever that was, we'll
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get into it. Or was it a lack of performance
by your superstars Cam Hayward, TJ. Watt, Alex high Smith,
Patrick Queen, Patrick Queen. So those are the three areas
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to look at why this happened. Did the Bengals rise
to the occasion with a stellar performance?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Eh?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Eh, eh. You got two wide receivers there that you
know were dangerous coming into the game. Joe Flacco, you
know the scenario, gets traded, steps into a starting role,
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two starting roles within ten days, and he looked magnificent, stellar,
could be the NFL offensive player of the year. That's
what he looked like last night because there was no
pressure on the man. There was no pressure on the man.
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Let's start with this offensive line. I'm gonna play you
what Zach Taylor says now about his offensive line.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Impressident this performance. I thought our offensive line played outstanding.
I mean that defensive line has been wreaking havoc the
last couple of weeks. On all the film we've watched
and all these other teams, Genarl Lion gave him a
great shot. Our tight ends did an unbelievable job in
the run game as well, and everybody stepped out for
se Mars after the catch. So just just collectively on
offensive was great. And the defense getting a big stuff
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at the end. I know it's the helmet I've seen
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Our offensive line, said coach Zach Taylor, did an incredible
job because your Steelers defensive line and front seven have
been wreaking havoc the last few weeks. This offensive line
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for the Bengals sucks. It sucked last year. It's horrible.
This should have been the Romans facing off against the
Lions in the Coliseum in thirty a d This should
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have been a blood letting by the Steelers front. This
wasn't the hogs of famed Washington Redskins days. This is
the Cincinnati Kittikats who's offense sucks and is at the
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bottom of the NFL because it starts up front. Even
with Joe Burrows and the two stud wide receivers, that
offensive line stinks. So was it personnel last night? Was
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it the scheme last night? Was it Mike Tomlin last night?
The Steelers defense made Cincinnati look like a Super Bowl
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contender last night, even in the run game. Even in
the run game. And if you watched the broadcast, you
heard Al Michaels in astonishment say about the Kiddykats running back.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
He's gotta be in disbelief.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
He's averaging four point four yards a game tonight and
normally he's met in the backfield. Even Al Michaels was stunned.
And this was in the second quarter.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
This was.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
An easy no hitter to pitch by the Steelers defense.
Let me break this down for you. Now understand something
I do some coaching, okay at the high school level,
mostly with offensive line and defensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So we're in a s ay shay my old wheelhouse here.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Okay, predicated upon the Bengals being the worst offensive line
in the league and your defensive line well in front
seven being touted as Wow, these are guys are good.
We're going to five and one.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I got a feel and.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
You always started hearing that chant when the Steelers are
four and one. Need I mind you what Mike Tomlin
did you? It's only eleven and o season when he
lost to the Clowns, and we're gonna get to that again.
Three principles to analyze here. Was it Tomlin's fault? Was
it with the scheme? Was it the player's fault? Hey,
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Pittsburgh Steelers. This was an easy defensive plan if you
didn't know it. It was an easy defensive plan despite
the Bengals having two killer wide receivers, preddicated upon two things,
the worst offensive line in the league, Joe Flacco's age
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inmobility and newness to the Bengals organization, sow you break
this down. This was a simple defensive scheme, plan of action.
All right, You let the big dogs upfront hunt, You
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let them loose, You let TJ. Loose. You play a defense,
base defense up front. You let Cam do what Cam
just held out to do and got more money for
Benton had the big play earlier in the game. Where'd
he go? And you've been playing her big. You've got
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high Smith. That base front, with that Steelers defense should
have stopped the ground game, the ground game of the Bengals,
which is ineffective, it's horrible with the help of your
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inside linebackers, with Wilson and Patrick Queen. What happened, Well,
let me tell you one of the things that did happen. Okay,
if you listen to the show, you know I'm not
a fan of Patrick Queen. He's a C plus smurf,
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I mean, short Devin Bush size inside linebacker. I don't
know how he got all pro status, Pro Bowl status
with the Ravens. Maybe he was actually hitting people back then.
Maybe he actually was decent in past coverage. It was
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Latenes's first quarter or second quarter that once again Patrick
Queen showed me who he is tight end catches the
ball across the middle. I think it was Peyton Wilson
who wraps him up Patrick Queen, and they showed it twice,
but they didn't talk about Queen. They talked about the
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catch by whose osuvvvvvoover or whatever his name is. Patrick
Queen had him dead to rights with a legal hit.
Legal there would have been no targeting. In fifteen, Beard
personal foul number six to light him up. Patrick Queen
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decided to jump over and avoid contact. Is this why
do you want from your inside linebacker?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It is not.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I gotta take a break when we come back. We're
going to keep analyzing this loss to the Kittie Cats Cincinnati.
I'm tank. Let's stalk stealers.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Flaco over the lat I'll get you nuts.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
And did you can call for the Flacco keeper? What
did you think when.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You saw the issue we have sometimes is on some
of our long formations trying to process. We didn't have
a risk bandit so we did. We were not aligned correctly.
I don't know why. It was a zone read that
never in a millionaires we would keep. The last one
we kept is maybe finlay against the Steelers right here
in twenty twenty. Burrow had one, I think a couple
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of years ago. But I was shocked. I saw the
bag get hit, I think is what I saw, So
I thought the player was dead and the next thing
you know, it's this really tall human running down for
first down and then I just got to get my
next gol ready. Before getting to know Joe Flacco more
personally over the last week and a half, when you
guys acquired him, did you think you'd be capable of
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this kind of game this quickly? This is what his
skill set is, you know, is to stand back there,
throw the ball and manage the game. And so he's
done for a long time. He's won a lot of games,
played in a lot of playoff games, playing a lot
of JFC North divisional battles of this magnitude. So yeah,
I absolutely thought that he was capable of this. With
the amount of targets that Jamar got.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Where we keep calling plays for on where splash just
know how to look to the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's all, I mean, our whole game plan is trying
to get him the ball every which way, and that's
where t isn't getting the targets. But having tea over
there opposite of him or on the same side of him,
you can't just play one on one all game over there,
So where the ball is going to go there, And
they got great corners and so again, that's just sometimes
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Jamar's production is Jamar, but it's also the other guys
that we have that put pressure on the defense. They
have to be responsible for because we'll throw it to
him'll throw to everybody. I mean, we got double double
and dre runs on the middle of the field on
a play we worked on Wednesday. We got one jog
through Repavant and we got the same coverage we hoped
we were going to get and Drake comes up big.
I mean, that was a huge play in the game.
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I think it was early second half. Great job through
praigtorp Man. That was a great third down suggestion by
him to take advantage there and paid off Bay for us.
Your way to bring up how well the offensive line?
They started Dalton and Jalen with Lucas and.
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Speaker 6 (19:50):
You know, a tough, hard fork gang. But certainly got
to give credit to those guys, the Bengals. Uh, they
did what was required to win. They made a few
more plays than we did. Just from a analysis perspective,
I just thought, you know, the first half, we allowed
them to run the ball too much. I think they
had about one hundred yards rushing at the half, and
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then we turned the ball over a couple times, and
so that just kind of set a negative trajectory and
we're fighting uphill the rest of the way. I certainly
appreciate the fight, but man, we got to be cleaner,
we got to be better, and we weren't tonight, and
that's life in this business. We certainly got to learn
from it, man, and keep pushing. But I'd be remiss
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if I didn't compliment them. Man, they fought their tails off. Man,
they won the game, and they're certainly deserving. No real
injuries to speak of. Had some bumps and bruises associated
with play. Next time we get together, I'll provide some
details in that area if necessary. You know, we played
these guys a bunch. We double teamed them some, we
double team five some. It's a mix of mixes required.
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They got depth and talent. Just like the one play
eighty made down the middle. We were women both and
there were one on one in that circumstance, and so,
you know, as many way as you can analyze it,
but the bottom line is they made more plays than
we did.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
My defense has to run always the issues.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
They popped a couple they did. Man, we didn't do
a good enough job of gap control, and they popped
a couple of big ones, and and it kind of
created an unsteady environment, especially just funny.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
With the second lady considering, you know, sort of focus is.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Subtly it was getting these guys to play these things. Yeah,
we won't be defined by this performance, but it certainly
was disappointing.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Tonight, Mike, you're feeling all in the second that maybe
you got away from the run with the success.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
You're having in the first I don't. I don't. You know,
we turned the ball over a couple of times. It's
sixty minutes of football. We ran it well in the
second half. Any pocket of the game you can isolate
and you know, have judgment, So we don't worry about that.
I thought we ran the ball effectively largely over the
course of the game.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
It was.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And then you said earlier season, after getting that much turnover, everybody,
is this a game where called turnatives to the mask
some of what.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
You were getting enough on defense?
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You know, when we're not getting it, we better secure it.
I think it's the totality of it. We work as
a collective, and so if we're not getting it, we
certainly better protect it. And so we didn't do a
good enough job of getting it tonight. We didn't do
enough good enough job of protecting. When your mine is
two on the road, you don't win a lot of
those games. Now, they got rid of the ball quick,
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and they were running the ball effectively, and so it
minimized some of those one dimensional passing circumstances.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Hey, you're listening to Lets Talk Steelers. I'm your host,
Randy the tank Taantlinger. Thanks for joining me. All right,
There goes coach Knucklehead again with his uh molasses wishy
washy uh postgame analysis. Why aren't you angry man? Why
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don't you upset? Man? Why aren't you furious?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Man?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You know, the Jaguars in the AFC playoff game here
in Pittsburgh should have? Could have out the Browns in
the playoff game. Should have could have the Bengals, the
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hapless Bengals thirtieth ranked offense Bengals on Thursday Night football?
Should have? Could a where's your anger? Mikey? Huh? It's
always the same story with Tomlin, isn't it? Isn't it?
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He loses the games he's supposed to win. Let's say it.
If you don't see that after twenty years by now
and you've drank the Mike, Tomlin's greatest thing that will
happen since bread was sliced by a knife, and he's
awesome and he's the goat. If you don't see that
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he dumps the easy games after twenty years, you're blind.
Are you telling me that this Steelers team lost to
a legitimate better football team on paper. Analytically, you know,
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Tomlin's cockiness is always on full display for the world
to see, except when the wizard has been exposed and
Toto moves the curtain back, and there you see the
great and wonderful isn't what he appears to be. Here
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we go again. You know, I feel like al Pacino
at this point. You know, I keep trying to get
out and they keep dragging me back in or whatever
he says. I was one who loved the thought of
Aaron Rodgers coming here, loved it, and it's panning out right.
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But of course, a Tomlin offensive coordinator in Arthur Smith.
Please take another head coaching job someplace. Do it now,
Give them the Penn State job for all I care.
If you don't know Arthur and Smith stinks as an OC.
You got issues, Pyle, You don't know football. This is
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Aaron Rodgers offense you're seeing right now, not Arthur Smith's.
There was hope because DK is a beast. But where's
the coaching to get him the second wide receiver? Where's
the front office? You didn't know this coming out of
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late Trope. You didn't have a second wide receiver Scottie
Miller Miller, Miller, Miller second. Once again Tomlin does what
Tomlin does best. He loses games he should win. Your
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Steelers should be five and one right now. This should
have been easy pickings last night. They should have unloaded
packages off the corner, up the middle on the old
man Flacco last night against the league's worst offensive line.
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They should have had him, as the saying goes, and
it is in the spirit of the season, ghosts. But
they didn't do that. This was really an easy defensive
plan to put together for last night. They have the
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worst running game in the league. You let the front hunt,
You let them hunt, Go get them boys. You know
how to read the lineman, you know your gap responsibility.
Go hunt, have a great night, go get some sacks.
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But it didn't play that way. I mean, at one point,
now Michael said, in the first half, whatever the Kitty
Cat's running backs name, Oh my god, he's getting four
point four yards. You usually get tackled in the backfield.
What was that on the back end. You knew what
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you had with the two headed hydra, with the receivers
up there. Okay, you played man, I get it. It
ain't easy. They're really good, both of them. In fact,
they're everything they have offensively. But the best you can
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come up with is that performance. Joey Porter once again
not rising to the occasion instead taking the penalties. Jadaelen
Ramsey is solid. You watch, he's gonna start getting in
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the same position Minka was a couple of years ago,
where he's trying to do too much to save the secondary.
This is all very troubling because once again hopes got
up that hey, we might have something here. I gotta
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feel in Pittsburgh's going to the suit. No, the Wizard
of Oz was exposed again last night. Okay, if you're
dropping this game against the kiddie Cats, you may stumble
into the playoffs, but you're not going deep. Do you
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think that they're gonna have some come to Jesus? Meaning today?
Down there in the South side, guys, we wonder what
was that last night? This is unacceptable. You think that's
what's gonna happen with Cam Hayward and what and the
other defensive leaders. We're better than this. What was that's
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not happening down there today? Oh shucks, we lost. Gotta
go pick up my paycheck. Can't wait till it comes
how would you like to pick up a paycheck one
point seven mil for the week's work. Hey you're listening,
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Let's talk Steelers. I'm Tank Tantlinger. Let's go inside in
the locker room. Listen to some of the guys, Pat
Firemouth and some of the other guys now.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Actually frushrating. Obviously we had them at the end. You know,
get credit that. I'm mad pet the game plan and
you know came out, they came out on top.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
How how'd you feel out there today?
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I mean, get it, the first game in a while
and over a hundred yards and offensive kind of was
clicking there. I mean it is what it is obviously,
which we came out with the W. It's always about
the team first, and you know, prod proud of how
the guys fought through the whole game, but doesn't really
mean much since you know we didn't win.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
What do you think about Thursday nights with you guys?
Can you put your finger on it? Noah? I mean
we just gotta execute better and you know, come out
with come out with a win. Was it just did
the quick passes from Flac though? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:38):
I mean you know he he was' getting it out quick.
But I mean, you know, we had a game planning
for that, and so we just we just didn't execute.
And like I said, we didn't make the play that
we need to be made to night to win the game.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
It's kind of uncharacteristic the way you got been playing,
especially stuff in the run.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, you know that's what so we
prought ourselves on and so when that happens, it's unacceptable.
So we just gotta analyzed to take when we get
back in.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Is there anything with Thursday night games?
Speaker 8 (32:00):
I mean, you know, I feel like we do a
good job preparing for 'em, and I feel like we're
a good week. We'll proteen at the end of the day.
You know, it doesn't matter what, you know, what happens
to practice, you gotta come out here nextcut we did.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
We didn't do that tonight.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Uh, it's heel frustrating, is it to have a game
like this defense of winning a part like you guys
have been on the rise the last.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
It was frustrated cause you know, what type of defence
we are in, no type of players we have, and so.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Like I said, we it's just frustrating.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
You know when how good we've been playing recently to
have this happened so to, Like I said, we just
gonna handle the feeling and get back to work.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Frustrating is it to have a game with us after
it felt like the defense have been trending in the
right direction the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
It sucks, but I mean, like we said before, we
wasn't We weren't perfect like when we played the Browns,
and we're not perfect now. So we just gotta keep working,
keep keep its working on our craft. Really, they don't
really much to say.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
It's really different challenge for you guys when you're facing
the two guys of that caliber are supposed to just wanting.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
When you've been with the pace most of the year.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
No, not really.
Speaker 10 (32:56):
I mean we got the guys to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
They just gotta let us play. Yeah, what do you
mean by that?
Speaker 10 (33:01):
I mean, I I wasn't a big fan of the
calls today with the officiating, but it is what it is.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
It's football, guy, What explanations did you get on on
these were talking about professionals.
Speaker 10 (33:14):
I was trying to figure it out, but he wasn't
really saying nothing educational to learn problem so feels pointless.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
It wasn't working well.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Was stopping the run tonight.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
We just wasn't doing what we've been doing. He wasn't
being physical, wasn't maintaining our gap. Everybody just got a job,
and they just got to take their job, starting with me.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I gotta be better.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I had two chances to make a play. He didn't
make the play and it turned into a big run.
So you know, I just got to get better.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's that's that's your white Were.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
They to struggle then very heavy put your fire.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
I mean this, I think this was my first Thursday
night here, so I think we had good preparation. We'll
walk through good practice. You know, It's just it's unfortunate.
Felt like we had field momental, feel like we practiced good,
felt good on into the game.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
So we just gotta go out and execute better play.
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right people in the locker room. And when you get
to enjoy that feeling, I know, it's just an early
September feeling. This isn't December January, but it's still meaningful.
And these guys earned it because they just kept plugging
along and they have known that we're close to these games.
That's a good football team, so to be too, and
over the division right in the thick of everything that
we' talking about with another home game coming up, chance
(35:04):
to get healthy this next couple of days. Really really
just proud of the guys and the effort and happy
to get a win. Outstanding, outstanding, outstanding, Yeah, Joe, I
mean it was outstanding. Really, I mean we're we're I
mean we how many drive we scored on what like
six of the last seven drives, maybe seven the last eight,
seven of eight okay, so and really early on we
(35:27):
had some some drops and some quirky stuff happened that
prevented a score there. So just thought his performance is outstanding,
very very calm collected. Uh let us in a two
minute drive to go win the game with a huge
go ball to t get those guys a chance to
go make some plays and impressed this performance. I thought
our offensive line played outstanding. I mean that defensive line
(35:47):
has been wreaking havoc the last couple of weeks and
all the film we've watched and all these other teams,
and a Lion gave him a great shot. Our tight
ends did an unbelievable job in the run game as well,
and everybody stepped up for Mars after the catch. So
just just collectively on offense, it was great, and the
defense getting a big stop at the end. I know
it's the helmet. I've seen Aaron Rodgers stole a lot
of hell rais and his life for touchdowns, and so
(36:09):
I was I was glad they were able to print that.
You've seen a lot of people. Yeah, but in the
game like this, it is like where does this Frank's up?
I mean, he just he comes up so big in
those moments, and he's so hard to bring down. So
it's not even the catches sometimes it's the yards after
the catch. So every time he gets the ball in
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my hands, it energizes the whole stadium because everybody thinks
he's about to score and just the I thought all
those guys stepped up you asked, got Jamar and a
franchise record sixteen catches in a game of this magnitude
is spectacular.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Jack your emotions a touchdown, pride and sports and put
them up and then going back up and you just
put on the switching in the top.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah we did. I mean the one drive we got
a little stagnant. I wanted to continue to be aggressive
and throw the football. It's it's you stuck between run
and the clock and still being aggressive. We want to
be aggressive. It didn't go our way. We had to
pint and again just just thought it was a great
job by those guys getting it together in the last draft.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
You're the calling or whoever to go down there.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah we did, Yes, we did, Yes we did for
the last.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Couple of pace.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
You know, we've asked you a lot about the time decent.
It really needs to get going. How happy were really happy?
I mean you could just feel the energy from our
whole line, our tight ends, our backs did a great job,
and we called a lot more runs and we spit
them out to Jamar for some major yardage there. And
I can't wait to see what the yardage was on
a lot of the run plays. We called through a
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touchdown on one for sure, and and several others working
through some run alerts and Jamar got some great production there.
So the statistics won't say run plays on those. For us,
that's that's coming off the run game. They got to
defend it and they give us opportunities. That's a great
way to get Jamar some easy touches where the line
doesn't have to pass protect. So for us, that's that's
even more really rushing yardage loss out, it's a huge one.
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We needed this. We we just it had been too
long since we've won. And so when you're fighting for
all these things that we fight for and these guys
just keep keep coming at as a coach who just
keep sticking with it, I see it coming, and for
you need the results. And so we got the results,
and now there was no non believers in that locker room.
We knew what we're capable of and we can see
(38:24):
and we just had to put it together. But it's
significant to find a divisional win, be to a Z
in the division right now going into a long weekend,
and then you know, with with a home game coming up,
just a great opportunity for our team to capitalize this.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
When you guys resigned more and this offseason.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
This is the kind of night.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah. I mean, it's just the stress that causes the
other team in terms of their coverage. It's a constant
chess match, the entire game of who's on, who, who's double?
Who were the matchups? And so, uh, there's the same
thing we deal with with high Smith and Watt and
all those guys. They got to deal with with our receivers.
What's the plan there?
Speaker 5 (38:59):
And so.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Just they stepped up for us. They stepped up for us,
and and uh, it was it was fun to watch.
It's also at which you guys trade and flack O
the can hope that his experience. I mean, he's got
eighteen years of experience playing these games. I mean we're
a short week playing the Pittsburgh Steelers in a game
that we needed to have, and he's just like, they're
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just it's easy for him, you know. And and it's
not because he's putting in the work. It's just he's
he's so experienced in this situation. You gain a lot
of confidence from that because he goes out there, it's
not too big. I have to enunciate my formations better
because some of them it's we're hearing him for the
first time, and so I got to do a better
job nunciating. I think it's my oklahomax and got him
(39:45):
a couple of times. But I thought he did a
great job managing the.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Game on me for on the deep, all the tea
at the end. There your decision.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
We just got.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I mean, it's hard. It's it's a hard you watch the.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
That was Bengal's head coach Zach Taylor right after the
game Thursday night. I wanted to play that extended version
of it. Okay again, did that sound like a head
coach that knew he was going to handle the Pittsburgh Steelers.
(40:24):
I knew it was coming. We were due for a
big explosion offensively. No, that sounded like a head coach
that was shocked, dismayed, pleasantly surprised that he won the
football game. I mean, really didn't didn't sound like that.
(40:47):
But I have to tell you something. This doesn't surprise me.
This doesn't shock me. I'm not sitting here postgame going, well,
I'm just shocked. The Steelers lost to the Bengals. Folks,
(41:12):
we barely barely beat the Jets. Okay, you barely got
to four and one, you really did. These were not
dominating performances. And you gotta go back to last week
against the Cleveland Browns, another team who stinks Your Steelers
(41:39):
defense gave up two hundred and forty eight yards against
the Browns. The offense three thirty five, not bad to
forty eight by the Browns league average basically. But the
(42:00):
problem was you had to rely on the foot of
Boswell again, didn't you. Yeah, if you take Chris Boswell's
foot out of that game, it's a different situation, isn't it.
(42:28):
In Cleveland it was twenty three to nine, was the final.
It wasn't like the Browns were gonna put up big points.
But your offense got stalled four times. And knowing that
Chris Boswell can bang a ball, he was sent out
(42:49):
there four times.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
He was three or four.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
So that's nine points out of twenty three. Something is
a miss with this Steelers team. It wasn't a solid
four and one team, and it got exposed last night.
It got exposed by what, I don't know, a team
(43:19):
that said we got a quarterback in Joe Flacco. Let's
step our game up. Maybe I will give credit where
credit is due to the Bengals. They played his best
football game they could have and they won. The Bengals
were up for that game. There's no doubt about it,
white out, whatever you want to call it. Joe Flacco
(43:43):
came to play football, and the Bengals did what they
knew they could only do. He threw the ball forty
seven times last night, forty seven, thirty one to forty seven.
Not bad, not bad. Aaron Rodgers twenty three or thirty four,
(44:05):
not bad. But you let Burrows put up three hundred
and forty two yards passing last night against a secondary
that we thought was coming on Slay Ramsey. Joey Porter
played his game again average. You know what, Joey Porter
(44:32):
ain't developing in the way he's supposed to just because
he's out there starting, just cause his dad. He's in
the Steelers' Hall of Fame? Now? Is Joey Porter the
shutdown corner? You want think about it? What happened with
(44:57):
the Steelers defensive rush? They made Cincinnati look pretty good
last night? Pretty good? Yeah, one hundred and forty two
yards team that was barely getting forty yards a game. Look,
(45:23):
this is the only thing I can take away from
last night's defeat to the Cincinnati Kitti Cats. I had hopes,
you had high hopes after four games. Gotta love Aaron Rodgers,
Gotta love darren A Washington. That kid's good darn good.
(45:44):
Gotta love some other things that are going on. But
it's Sos again, same old Steelers. You got the Packers
coming up. Is that a win for you? You have
(46:06):
a very hot team in the Colts. Then you face
the Chargers. Say what you will about the Chargers, Say
what you will about the Chargers, but you got to
go out there and play them. Then you gotta rematch
(46:27):
against the Bengals. Can't wait for the Bears game. Kind
of try to get to Chicago for that. Man goes
back to Jim McMahon and that Bears team. Do you
really think, regardless of what the Bills are doing at
this point, that your Steelers are going to beat them
(46:47):
in November? Some crazy things going on with your Pittsburgh Steelers,
And I don't know if it's correctable, I really don't.
It all goes back to Tomlin, and I know what
you Tomlin lovers are gonna say right now, Well, Tomlin
(47:08):
wasn't on the field. It was Cam Hayward on the field.
It was Alex Heissmith on the field, it was Patrick
Queen on the field. The coaches can only do so
much to play. I don't want to hear that nonsense.
Not when Tomlin's track record is dumping games to teams
(47:34):
you should manhandle. In the Cincinnati Kittie Cats, how did
you let them put up thirty plus points?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (47:45):
All right, I'm Tank Tannler here, you're listening Let's Talk Steelers.
We're gonna go back in the Steelers' locker room to
close out the show and hear from the players. We'll
talk to you next week, and don't forget the Let's
Talk Steelers TV show starts November ninth. God bless. It's
working on our craft.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Really, there't really much to say.
Speaker 10 (48:04):
It's been a different challenge for you guys when you're
facing the two guys of that caliber are supposed.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
To just want if you've been with the paceballst.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
For a year. No, not really.
Speaker 10 (48:11):
I mean we got the guys who do it.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
They just gotta let us play. What do you mean
by that?
Speaker 10 (48:17):
I mean I I wasn't a big fan of the
calls today.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
With the
Speaker 1 (48:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Got stepped up?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You asked?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Got jamar and a franchise record sixteen catches in a
game of this magnitude is spectacular.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Jack your emotions touchdown, Prider Sports. Put them and ain't
coming back off.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It's a huge one we need to do. We just
had been too long since we've won. And so when
you're fighting for all these things that we fight for,
and these guys just keep keep coming at as a
coach who just keeps sticking with it, I see it
coming and for you need the results. And so we
got the results, and now there was no non believers
in that locker room. We knew what we're capable of
(01:20):
and we can see and we just had to put
it together. But it is significant to find a divisional
win be two and oh in the division right now,
at the right people in the locker room, and when
you get to enjoy that feeling. I know it's just
an early September feeling. This isn't December January, but it's
still meaningful. And these guys earned it because they've just
kept plugging along and they have known that we're close
to these games. That's a good football team, so to
(01:42):
be too, and over the division right in the thick
of everything that we've been talking about, with another home
game coming out, chance to get healthy this next couple
of days. Really really just proud of the guys and
the effort and happy to get a win.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Huddle up, Steelers, you're listening and let stocks Doler's Fox
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horrific A tsunami, a Bengal the Orange and White has
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rolled over the city of Pittsburgh and arkens back to
the Great Flood of nineteen three when the fountain in
downtown Pittsburgh was covered by forty foot of I don't
know what year that was, I know it's happened a
couple of times. It is the morning after three Rivers
(02:39):
Stadium was blown up. Just that it feels like your
prom queen's date stood you up on Prom night. That's
what it feels like this Friday morning as I record
this show.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
As your Pittsburgh Steelers, they not only.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Stubbed stubbed, but their toe in Cincinnati. It's whoops. Here
we go again with the Pittsburgh Tomlins. I started out
this segment by playing you the Zach Taylor press conference
(03:20):
following the game, the Cincinnati Kitti Kats head coach. I
think it's more important that in this segment we focus
on the perspective from the Bengals of why they won
that game. You can hear the shock, the dismay, the
(03:44):
pleasure in his voice that they beat the Steelers. Throughout
Zach Taylor's postgame press conference. You hear him time and
time again, elude, drop jelly beans to find your way
(04:06):
back to the tree of truth. That the Bengals didn't
think they had a snowballs chance.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
In hades.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Of winning that game. They viewed it as their super Bowl.
They played it like their super Bowl with their forty
one year old quarterback versus our forty one year old
quarter back. The Bengals are delighted that their thirtieth thirty
(04:47):
first grand whatever it is, crappy offense with a horrible
the worst O line in the league beat your Pittsburgh
Steelers and put up over thirty points. As you look
(05:10):
at why you have to categorize this thing in three areas.
Is it Mike Tomlin's fault, was it the defensive scheme
your Pittsburgh Steelers decided to play whatever that was, we'll
(05:33):
get into it. Or was it a lack of performance
by your superstars Cam Hayward, TJ. Watt, Alex high Smith,
Patrick Queen, Patrick Queen. So those are the three areas
(05:56):
to look at why this happened. Did the Bengals rise
to the occasion with a stellar performance?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Eh?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Eh, eh. You got two wide receivers there that you
know were dangerous coming into the game. Joe Flacco, you
know the scenario, gets traded, steps into a starting role,
(06:31):
two starting roles within ten days, and he looked magnificent, stellar,
could be the NFL offensive player of the year. That's
what he looked like last night because there was no
pressure on the man. There was no pressure on the man.
(06:58):
Let's start with this offensive line. I'm gonna play you
what Zach Taylor says now about his offensive line.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Impressident this performance. I thought our offensive line played outstanding.
I mean that defensive line has been wreaking havoc the
last couple of weeks. On all the film we've watched
and all these other teams, Genarl Lion gave him a
great shot. Our tight ends did an unbelievable job in
the run game as well, and everybody stepped out for
se Mars after the catch. So just just collectively on
offensive was great. And the defense getting a big stuff
(07:29):
at the end. I know it's the helmet I've seen
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Our offensive line, said coach Zach Taylor, did an incredible
job because your Steelers defensive line and front seven have
been wreaking havoc the last few weeks. This offensive line
(07:54):
for the Bengals sucks. It sucked last year. It's horrible.
This should have been the Romans facing off against the
Lions in the Coliseum in thirty a d This should
(08:16):
have been a blood letting by the Steelers front. This
wasn't the hogs of famed Washington Redskins days. This is
the Cincinnati Kittikats who's offense sucks and is at the
(08:36):
bottom of the NFL because it starts up front. Even
with Joe Burrows and the two stud wide receivers, that
offensive line stinks. So was it personnel last night? Was
(09:02):
it the scheme last night? Was it Mike Tomlin last night?
The Steelers defense made Cincinnati look like a Super Bowl
(09:24):
contender last night, even in the run game. Even in
the run game. And if you watched the broadcast, you
heard Al Michaels in astonishment say about the Kiddykats running back.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
He's gotta be in disbelief.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
He's averaging four point four yards a game tonight and
normally he's met in the backfield. Even Al Michaels was stunned.
And this was in the second quarter.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
This was.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
An easy no hitter to pitch by the Steelers defense.
Let me break this down for you. Now understand something
I do some coaching, okay at the high school level,
mostly with offensive line and defensive line.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
So we're in a s ay shay my old wheelhouse here.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Okay, predicated upon the Bengals being the worst offensive line
in the league and your defensive line well in front
seven being touted as Wow, these are guys are good.
We're going to five and one.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I got a feel and.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
You always started hearing that chant when the Steelers are
four and one. Need I mind you what Mike Tomlin
did you? It's only eleven and o season when he
lost to the Clowns, and we're gonna get to that again.
Three principles to analyze here. Was it Tomlin's fault? Was
it with the scheme? Was it the player's fault? Hey,
(11:14):
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Speaker 3 (11:17):
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Pittsburgh Steelers. This was an easy defensive plan if you
didn't know it. It was an easy defensive plan despite
the Bengals having two killer wide receivers, preddicated upon two things,
the worst offensive line in the league, Joe Flacco's age
(13:16):
inmobility and newness to the Bengals organization, sow you break
this down. This was a simple defensive scheme, plan of action.
All right, You let the big dogs upfront hunt, You
(13:38):
let them loose, You let TJ. Loose. You play a defense,
base defense up front. You let Cam do what Cam
just held out to do and got more money for
Benton had the big play earlier in the game. Where'd
he go? And you've been playing her big. You've got
(13:59):
high Smith. That base front, with that Steelers defense should
have stopped the ground game, the ground game of the Bengals,
which is ineffective, it's horrible with the help of your
(14:22):
inside linebackers, with Wilson and Patrick Queen. What happened, Well,
let me tell you one of the things that did happen. Okay,
if you listen to the show, you know I'm not
a fan of Patrick Queen. He's a C plus smurf,
(14:46):
I mean, short Devin Bush size inside linebacker. I don't
know how he got all pro status, Pro Bowl status
with the Ravens. Maybe he was actually hitting people back then.
Maybe he actually was decent in past coverage. It was
(15:09):
Latenes's first quarter or second quarter that once again Patrick
Queen showed me who he is tight end catches the
ball across the middle. I think it was Peyton Wilson
who wraps him up Patrick Queen, and they showed it twice,
but they didn't talk about Queen. They talked about the
(15:30):
catch by whose osuvvvvvoover or whatever his name is. Patrick
Queen had him dead to rights with a legal hit.
Legal there would have been no targeting. In fifteen, Beard
personal foul number six to light him up. Patrick Queen
(15:56):
decided to jump over and avoid contact. Is this why
do you want from your inside linebacker?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It is not.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I gotta take a break when we come back. We're
going to keep analyzing this loss to the Kittie Cats Cincinnati.
I'm tank. Let's stalk stealers.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Flaco over the lat I'll get you nuts.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
And did you can call for the Flacco keeper? What
did you think when.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You saw the issue we have sometimes is on some
of our long formations trying to process. We didn't have
a risk bandit so we did. We were not aligned correctly.
I don't know why. It was a zone read that
never in a millionaires we would keep. The last one
we kept is maybe finlay against the Steelers right here
in twenty twenty. Burrow had one, I think a couple
(16:43):
of years ago. But I was shocked. I saw the
bag get hit, I think is what I saw, So
I thought the player was dead and the next thing
you know, it's this really tall human running down for
first down and then I just got to get my
next gol ready. Before getting to know Joe Flacco more
personally over the last week and a half, when you
guys acquired him, did you think you'd be capable of
(17:04):
this kind of game this quickly? This is what his
skill set is, you know, is to stand back there,
throw the ball and manage the game. And so he's
done for a long time. He's won a lot of games,
played in a lot of playoff games, playing a lot
of JFC North divisional battles of this magnitude. So yeah,
I absolutely thought that he was capable of this. With
the amount of targets that Jamar got.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Where we keep calling plays for on where splash just
know how to look to the guy.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's all, I mean, our whole game plan is trying
to get him the ball every which way, and that's
where t isn't getting the targets. But having tea over
there opposite of him or on the same side of him,
you can't just play one on one all game over there,
So where the ball is going to go there, And
they got great corners and so again, that's just sometimes
(17:47):
Jamar's production is Jamar, but it's also the other guys
that we have that put pressure on the defense. They
have to be responsible for because we'll throw it to
him'll throw to everybody. I mean, we got double double
and dre runs on the middle of the field on
a play we worked on Wednesday. We got one jog
through Repavant and we got the same coverage we hoped
we were going to get and Drake comes up big.
I mean, that was a huge play in the game.
(18:07):
I think it was early second half. Great job through
praigtorp Man. That was a great third down suggestion by
him to take advantage there and paid off Bay for us.
Your way to bring up how well the offensive line?
They started Dalton and Jalen with Lucas and.
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Speaker 6 (19:50):
You know, a tough, hard fork gang. But certainly got
to give credit to those guys, the Bengals. Uh, they
did what was required to win. They made a few
more plays than we did. Just from a analysis perspective,
I just thought, you know, the first half, we allowed
them to run the ball too much. I think they
had about one hundred yards rushing at the half, and
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then we turned the ball over a couple times, and
so that just kind of set a negative trajectory and
we're fighting uphill the rest of the way. I certainly
appreciate the fight, but man, we got to be cleaner,
we got to be better, and we weren't tonight, and
that's life in this business. We certainly got to learn
from it, man, and keep pushing. But I'd be remiss
(20:34):
if I didn't compliment them. Man, they fought their tails off. Man,
they won the game, and they're certainly deserving. No real
injuries to speak of. Had some bumps and bruises associated
with play. Next time we get together, I'll provide some
details in that area if necessary. You know, we played
these guys a bunch. We double teamed them some, we
double team five some. It's a mix of mixes required.
(20:55):
They got depth and talent. Just like the one play
eighty made down the middle. We were women both and
there were one on one in that circumstance, and so,
you know, as many way as you can analyze it,
but the bottom line is they made more plays than
we did.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
My defense has to run always the issues.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
They popped a couple they did. Man, we didn't do
a good enough job of gap control, and they popped
a couple of big ones, and and it kind of
created an unsteady environment, especially just funny.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
With the second lady considering, you know, sort of focus is.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Subtly it was getting these guys to play these things. Yeah,
we won't be defined by this performance, but it certainly
was disappointing.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Tonight, Mike, you're feeling all in the second that maybe
you got away from the run with the success.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
You're having in the first I don't. I don't. You know,
we turned the ball over a couple of times. It's
sixty minutes of football. We ran it well in the
second half. Any pocket of the game you can isolate
and you know, have judgment, So we don't worry about that.
I thought we ran the ball effectively largely over the
course of the game.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
It was.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And then you said earlier season, after getting that much turnover, everybody,
is this a game where called turnatives to the mask
some of what.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
You were getting enough on defense?
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You know, when we're not getting it, we better secure it.
I think it's the totality of it. We work as
a collective, and so if we're not getting it, we
certainly better protect it. And so we didn't do a
good enough job of getting it tonight. We didn't do
enough good enough job of protecting. When your mine is
two on the road, you don't win a lot of
those games. Now, they got rid of the ball quick,
(22:27):
and they were running the ball effectively, and so it
minimized some of those one dimensional passing circumstances.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Hey, you're listening to Lets Talk Steelers. I'm your host,
Randy the tank Taantlinger. Thanks for joining me. All right,
There goes coach Knucklehead again with his uh molasses wishy
washy uh postgame analysis. Why aren't you angry man? Why
(23:01):
don't you upset? Man? Why aren't you furious?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Man?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You know, the Jaguars in the AFC playoff game here
in Pittsburgh should have? Could have out the Browns in
the playoff game. Should have could have the Bengals, the
(23:32):
hapless Bengals thirtieth ranked offense Bengals on Thursday Night football?
Should have? Could a where's your anger? Mikey? Huh? It's
always the same story with Tomlin, isn't it? Isn't it?
(23:58):
He loses the games he's supposed to win. Let's say it.
If you don't see that after twenty years by now
and you've drank the Mike, Tomlin's greatest thing that will
happen since bread was sliced by a knife, and he's
awesome and he's the goat. If you don't see that
(24:21):
he dumps the easy games after twenty years, you're blind.
Are you telling me that this Steelers team lost to
a legitimate better football team on paper. Analytically, you know,
(24:47):
Tomlin's cockiness is always on full display for the world
to see, except when the wizard has been exposed and
Toto moves the curtain back, and there you see the
great and wonderful isn't what he appears to be. Here
(25:14):
we go again. You know, I feel like al Pacino
at this point. You know, I keep trying to get
out and they keep dragging me back in or whatever
he says. I was one who loved the thought of
Aaron Rodgers coming here, loved it, and it's panning out right.
(25:40):
But of course, a Tomlin offensive coordinator in Arthur Smith.
Please take another head coaching job someplace. Do it now,
Give them the Penn State job for all I care.
If you don't know Arthur and Smith stinks as an OC.
You got issues, Pyle, You don't know football. This is
(26:01):
Aaron Rodgers offense you're seeing right now, not Arthur Smith's.
There was hope because DK is a beast. But where's
the coaching to get him the second wide receiver? Where's
the front office? You didn't know this coming out of
(26:23):
late Trope. You didn't have a second wide receiver Scottie
Miller Miller, Miller, Miller second. Once again Tomlin does what
Tomlin does best. He loses games he should win. Your
(26:49):
Steelers should be five and one right now. This should
have been easy pickings last night. They should have unloaded
packages off the corner, up the middle on the old
man Flacco last night against the league's worst offensive line.
(27:10):
They should have had him, as the saying goes, and
it is in the spirit of the season, ghosts. But
they didn't do that. This was really an easy defensive
plan to put together for last night. They have the
(27:32):
worst running game in the league. You let the front hunt,
You let them hunt, Go get them boys. You know
how to read the lineman, you know your gap responsibility.
Go hunt, have a great night, go get some sacks.
(27:57):
But it didn't play that way. I mean, at one point,
now Michael said, in the first half, whatever the Kitty
Cat's running backs name, Oh my god, he's getting four
point four yards. You usually get tackled in the backfield.
What was that on the back end. You knew what
(28:22):
you had with the two headed hydra, with the receivers
up there. Okay, you played man, I get it. It
ain't easy. They're really good, both of them. In fact,
they're everything they have offensively. But the best you can
(28:44):
come up with is that performance. Joey Porter once again
not rising to the occasion instead taking the penalties. Jadaelen
Ramsey is solid. You watch, he's gonna start getting in
(29:06):
the same position Minka was a couple of years ago,
where he's trying to do too much to save the secondary.
This is all very troubling because once again hopes got
up that hey, we might have something here. I gotta
(29:31):
feel in Pittsburgh's going to the suit. No, the Wizard
of Oz was exposed again last night. Okay, if you're
dropping this game against the kiddie Cats, you may stumble
into the playoffs, but you're not going deep. Do you
(29:55):
think that they're gonna have some come to Jesus? Meaning today?
Down there in the South side, guys, we wonder what
was that last night? This is unacceptable. You think that's
what's gonna happen with Cam Hayward and what and the
other defensive leaders. We're better than this. What was that's
(30:19):
not happening down there today? Oh shucks, we lost. Gotta
go pick up my paycheck. Can't wait till it comes
how would you like to pick up a paycheck one
point seven mil for the week's work. Hey you're listening,
(30:43):
Let's talk Steelers. I'm Tank Tantlinger. Let's go inside in
the locker room. Listen to some of the guys, Pat
Firemouth and some of the other guys now.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Actually frushrating. Obviously we had them at the end. You know,
get credit that. I'm mad pet the game plan and
you know came out, they came out on top.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
How how'd you feel out there today?
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I mean, get it, the first game in a while
and over a hundred yards and offensive kind of was
clicking there. I mean it is what it is obviously,
which we came out with the W. It's always about
the team first, and you know, prod proud of how
the guys fought through the whole game, but doesn't really
mean much since you know we didn't win.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
What do you think about Thursday nights with you guys?
Can you put your finger on it? Noah? I mean
we just gotta execute better and you know, come out
with come out with a win. Was it just did
the quick passes from Flac though? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:38):
I mean you know he he was' getting it out quick.
But I mean, you know, we had a game planning
for that, and so we just we just didn't execute.
And like I said, we didn't make the play that
we need to be made to night to win the game.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
It's kind of uncharacteristic the way you got been playing,
especially stuff in the run.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, you know that's what so we
prought ourselves on and so when that happens, it's unacceptable.
So we just gotta analyzed to take when we get
back in.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Is there anything with Thursday night games?
Speaker 8 (32:00):
I mean, you know, I feel like we do a
good job preparing for 'em, and I feel like we're
a good week. We'll proteen at the end of the day.
You know, it doesn't matter what, you know, what happens
to practice, you gotta come out here nextcut we did.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
We didn't do that tonight.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
Uh, it's heel frustrating, is it to have a game
like this defense of winning a part like you guys
have been on the rise the last.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (32:17):
It was frustrated cause you know, what type of defence
we are in, no type of players we have, and so.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Like I said, we it's just frustrating.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
You know when how good we've been playing recently to
have this happened so to, Like I said, we just
gonna handle the feeling and get back to work.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Frustrating is it to have a game with us after
it felt like the defense have been trending in the
right direction the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 10 (32:36):
It sucks, but I mean, like we said before, we
wasn't We weren't perfect like when we played the Browns,
and we're not perfect now. So we just gotta keep working,
keep keep its working on our craft. Really, they don't
really much to say.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
It's really different challenge for you guys when you're facing
the two guys of that caliber are supposed to just wanting.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
When you've been with the pace most of the year.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
No, not really.
Speaker 10 (32:56):
I mean we got the guys to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
They just gotta let us play. Yeah, what do you
mean by that?
Speaker 10 (33:01):
I mean, I I wasn't a big fan of the
calls today with the officiating, but it is what it is.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
It's football, guy, What explanations did you get on on
these were talking about professionals.
Speaker 10 (33:14):
I was trying to figure it out, but he wasn't
really saying nothing educational to learn problem so feels pointless.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
It wasn't working well.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Was stopping the run tonight.
Speaker 9 (33:22):
We just wasn't doing what we've been doing. He wasn't
being physical, wasn't maintaining our gap. Everybody just got a job,
and they just got to take their job, starting with me.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
I gotta be better.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I had two chances to make a play. He didn't
make the play and it turned into a big run.
So you know, I just got to get better.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's that's that's your white Were.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
They to struggle then very heavy put your fire.
Speaker 9 (33:43):
I mean this, I think this was my first Thursday
night here, so I think we had good preparation. We'll
walk through good practice. You know, It's just it's unfortunate.
Felt like we had field momental, feel like we practiced good,
felt good on into the game.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
So we just gotta go out and execute better play.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right people in the locker room. And when you get
to enjoy that feeling, I know, it's just an early
September feeling. This isn't December January, but it's still meaningful.
And these guys earned it because they just kept plugging
along and they have known that we're close to these games.
That's a good football team, so to be too, and
over the division right in the thick of everything that
we' talking about with another home game coming up, chance
(35:04):
to get healthy this next couple of days. Really really
just proud of the guys and the effort and happy
to get a win. Outstanding, outstanding, outstanding, Yeah, Joe, I
mean it was outstanding. Really, I mean we're we're I
mean we how many drive we scored on what like
six of the last seven drives, maybe seven the last eight,
seven of eight okay, so and really early on we
(35:27):
had some some drops and some quirky stuff happened that
prevented a score there. So just thought his performance is outstanding,
very very calm collected. Uh let us in a two
minute drive to go win the game with a huge
go ball to t get those guys a chance to
go make some plays and impressed this performance. I thought
our offensive line played outstanding. I mean that defensive line
(35:47):
has been wreaking havoc the last couple of weeks and
all the film we've watched and all these other teams,
and a Lion gave him a great shot. Our tight
ends did an unbelievable job in the run game as well,
and everybody stepped up for Mars after the catch. So
just just collectively on offense, it was great, and the
defense getting a big stop at the end. I know
it's the helmet. I've seen Aaron Rodgers stole a lot
of hell rais and his life for touchdowns, and so
(36:09):
I was I was glad they were able to print that.
You've seen a lot of people. Yeah, but in the
game like this, it is like where does this Frank's up?
I mean, he just he comes up so big in
those moments, and he's so hard to bring down. So
it's not even the catches sometimes it's the yards after
the catch. So every time he gets the ball in
(36:29):
my hands, it energizes the whole stadium because everybody thinks
he's about to score and just the I thought all
those guys stepped up you asked, got Jamar and a
franchise record sixteen catches in a game of this magnitude
is spectacular.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Jack your emotions a touchdown, pride and sports and put
them up and then going back up and you just
put on the switching in the top.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah we did. I mean the one drive we got
a little stagnant. I wanted to continue to be aggressive
and throw the football. It's it's you stuck between run
and the clock and still being aggressive. We want to
be aggressive. It didn't go our way. We had to
pint and again just just thought it was a great
job by those guys getting it together in the last draft.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
You're the calling or whoever to go down there.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah we did, Yes, we did, Yes we did for
the last.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Couple of pace.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
You know, we've asked you a lot about the time decent.
It really needs to get going. How happy were really happy?
I mean you could just feel the energy from our
whole line, our tight ends, our backs did a great job,
and we called a lot more runs and we spit
them out to Jamar for some major yardage there. And
I can't wait to see what the yardage was on
a lot of the run plays. We called through a
(37:38):
touchdown on one for sure, and and several others working
through some run alerts and Jamar got some great production there.
So the statistics won't say run plays on those. For us,
that's that's coming off the run game. They got to
defend it and they give us opportunities. That's a great
way to get Jamar some easy touches where the line
doesn't have to pass protect. So for us, that's that's
even more really rushing yardage loss out, it's a huge one.
(38:03):
We needed this. We we just it had been too
long since we've won. And so when you're fighting for
all these things that we fight for and these guys
just keep keep coming at as a coach who just
keep sticking with it, I see it coming, and for
you need the results. And so we got the results,
and now there was no non believers in that locker room.
We knew what we're capable of and we can see
(38:24):
and we just had to put it together. But it's
significant to find a divisional win, be to a Z
in the division right now going into a long weekend,
and then you know, with with a home game coming up,
just a great opportunity for our team to capitalize this.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
When you guys resigned more and this offseason.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
This is the kind of night.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah. I mean, it's just the stress that causes the
other team in terms of their coverage. It's a constant
chess match, the entire game of who's on, who, who's double?
Who were the matchups? And so, uh, there's the same
thing we deal with with high Smith and Watt and
all those guys. They got to deal with with our receivers.
What's the plan there?
Speaker 5 (38:59):
And so.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Just they stepped up for us. They stepped up for us,
and and uh, it was it was fun to watch.
It's also at which you guys trade and flack O
the can hope that his experience. I mean, he's got
eighteen years of experience playing these games. I mean we're
a short week playing the Pittsburgh Steelers in a game
that we needed to have, and he's just like, they're
(39:24):
just it's easy for him, you know. And and it's
not because he's putting in the work. It's just he's
he's so experienced in this situation. You gain a lot
of confidence from that because he goes out there, it's
not too big. I have to enunciate my formations better
because some of them it's we're hearing him for the
first time, and so I got to do a better
job nunciating. I think it's my oklahomax and got him
(39:45):
a couple of times. But I thought he did a
great job managing the.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Game on me for on the deep, all the tea
at the end. There your decision.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
We just got.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I mean, it's hard. It's it's a hard you watch the.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
That was Bengal's head coach Zach Taylor right after the
game Thursday night. I wanted to play that extended version
of it. Okay again, did that sound like a head
coach that knew he was going to handle the Pittsburgh Steelers.
(40:24):
I knew it was coming. We were due for a
big explosion offensively. No, that sounded like a head coach
that was shocked, dismayed, pleasantly surprised that he won the
football game. I mean, really didn't didn't sound like that.
(40:47):
But I have to tell you something. This doesn't surprise me.
This doesn't shock me. I'm not sitting here postgame going, well,
I'm just shocked. The Steelers lost to the Bengals. Folks,
(41:12):
we barely barely beat the Jets. Okay, you barely got
to four and one, you really did. These were not
dominating performances. And you gotta go back to last week
against the Cleveland Browns, another team who stinks Your Steelers
(41:39):
defense gave up two hundred and forty eight yards against
the Browns. The offense three thirty five, not bad to
forty eight by the Browns league average basically. But the
(42:00):
problem was you had to rely on the foot of
Boswell again, didn't you. Yeah, if you take Chris Boswell's
foot out of that game, it's a different situation, isn't it.
(42:28):
In Cleveland it was twenty three to nine, was the final.
It wasn't like the Browns were gonna put up big points.
But your offense got stalled four times. And knowing that
Chris Boswell can bang a ball, he was sent out
(42:49):
there four times.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
He was three or four.
Speaker 5 (42:53):
So that's nine points out of twenty three. Something is
a miss with this Steelers team. It wasn't a solid
four and one team, and it got exposed last night.
It got exposed by what, I don't know, a team
(43:19):
that said we got a quarterback in Joe Flacco. Let's
step our game up. Maybe I will give credit where
credit is due to the Bengals. They played his best
football game they could have and they won. The Bengals
were up for that game. There's no doubt about it,
white out, whatever you want to call it. Joe Flacco
(43:43):
came to play football, and the Bengals did what they
knew they could only do. He threw the ball forty
seven times last night, forty seven, thirty one to forty seven.
Not bad, not bad. Aaron Rodgers twenty three or thirty four,
(44:05):
not bad. But you let Burrows put up three hundred
and forty two yards passing last night against a secondary
that we thought was coming on Slay Ramsey. Joey Porter
played his game again average. You know what, Joey Porter
(44:32):
ain't developing in the way he's supposed to just because
he's out there starting, just cause his dad. He's in
the Steelers' Hall of Fame? Now? Is Joey Porter the
shutdown corner? You want think about it? What happened with
(44:57):
the Steelers defensive rush? They made Cincinnati look pretty good
last night? Pretty good? Yeah, one hundred and forty two
yards team that was barely getting forty yards a game. Look,
(45:23):
this is the only thing I can take away from
last night's defeat to the Cincinnati Kitti Cats. I had hopes,
you had high hopes after four games. Gotta love Aaron Rodgers,
Gotta love darren A Washington. That kid's good darn good.
(45:44):
Gotta love some other things that are going on. But
it's Sos again, same old Steelers. You got the Packers
coming up. Is that a win for you? You have
(46:06):
a very hot team in the Colts. Then you face
the Chargers. Say what you will about the Chargers, Say
what you will about the Chargers, but you got to
go out there and play them. Then you gotta rematch
(46:27):
against the Bengals. Can't wait for the Bears game. Kind
of try to get to Chicago for that. Man goes
back to Jim McMahon and that Bears team. Do you
really think, regardless of what the Bills are doing at
this point, that your Steelers are going to beat them
(46:47):
in November? Some crazy things going on with your Pittsburgh Steelers,
And I don't know if it's correctable, I really don't.
It all goes back to Tomlin, and I know what
you Tomlin lovers are gonna say right now, Well, Tomlin
(47:08):
wasn't on the field. It was Cam Hayward on the field.
It was Alex Heissmith on the field, it was Patrick
Queen on the field. The coaches can only do so
much to play. I don't want to hear that nonsense.
Not when Tomlin's track record is dumping games to teams
(47:34):
you should manhandle. In the Cincinnati Kittie Cats, how did
you let them put up thirty plus points?
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (47:45):
All right, I'm Tank Tannler here, you're listening Let's Talk Steelers.
We're gonna go back in the Steelers' locker room to
close out the show and hear from the players. We'll
talk to you next week, and don't forget the Let's
Talk Steelers TV show starts November ninth. God bless. It's
working on our craft.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Really, there't really much to say.
Speaker 10 (48:04):
It's been a different challenge for you guys when you're
facing the two guys of that caliber are supposed.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
To just want if you've been with the paceballst.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
For a year. No, not really.
Speaker 10 (48:11):
I mean we got the guys who do it.
Speaker 5 (48:13):
They just gotta let us play. What do you mean
by that?
Speaker 10 (48:17):
I mean I I wasn't a big fan of the
calls today.
Speaker 9 (48:20):
With the
Speaker 1 (48:25):
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