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Sports nine eighty ninety nine. Fact, it's Lovak and guzz on the voice

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of the Capitol Regions Sports fan FoxSports ninety five nine and nine eighty.
No, pass not I'm gonna doit. Nope, you're not doing the
show. No oh no, soreloser, sol loser and ask. You
know what, guys, it's theGT toyst you. That's toys. I

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thought about it, and I knowwhat you're gonna say. I'm gonna read
your mind here to start this Mondayedition of lavacan Gas on Fox Sports Radio
ninety five nine. You're home forNew York Nicks basketball. Hopefully, hopefully
we'll get them back next year.Hopefully guys can get that done. I'm
you're gonna say that this is alla result of them being overworked. You're

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gonna say that, Uh, youknow that's why Oh Giannobi, a hamstring
issue player with the history of injury. That's that's why he had that.
So Julish randalls out. That's whyMitchell Robinson's out. That's why Isaiah Hartenstein
was not playing normal. It's ultimatelywhy why Josh hart ended up with an
admint pull in in Game six andand also guys. They coach Tebdelle played

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them too much. That's why JalenBrunston fractured his hand. That's all.
It's all because they played too much. So in the interest of you know,
since they're out, it would appearyou are more correct than I am.
In honor of honoring your assessment.I don't want to work too hard.
I don't want to get work toohard. I want to take a
load management day. So I'm gonnatake today off. I'm gonna leave,

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I'm gonna walk out here. I'mjust gonna maybe I'll just sit here and
stare at you while you do theshow load management, to save your body,
to save your energy for the ballshows, the football shows on the
way. I got a lot goingon. Okay, I got a lot
of things going on now. TheKnicks are out. That's just out.
Is never in that game. There'snever really in that There was a point

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where they got with the six bythe third I was like, oh,
I started like tweaking up a littlebit worth. Uh right. I missed
the beginning of the game for obviousreasons. I was busy with my my
day job. But I uh,it's it's it's a heartbreaker. It was
a heartbreaker. I'll get over it. I will. But I think I

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need a rest day. I thinkI need a load management day. Sad,
very sad. Uh do I wantto do the load management take?
It's one hundred percent of what youwere gonna do. I thought going into
the show on Sunday before tip off, I was going to do that take.
Things did change along the way.Is it somewhere on takes I might
use on today's show. Yeah,but it's not first I'll leave the second

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you do. It's take B orsee. It is not take A.
I'll give you that. It isnot the overwhelming takeaway from Game seven.
I will give you this. Letme take take A the hottest of the
takes. No, no, really, the Pacers shot better than any team
ever in the history of the NBApostseason. They have been arrested. That's

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why sixty seven percent from the fieldthe vac over fifty percent from three.
Nobody in the history of postseason basketballin the NBA had a better shooting game
than the twenty twenty four Indiana Pacersagainst the New York Nanks. Not in
a Game seven, not in theEastern Conference, in the history of the
NBA's postseason. Nobody shot the basketballbetter than the Pacers field goal percentage wise.

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Then what you heard here on FoxSports ninety five, nine to nine
eighty. So can you imagine thinkabout this. This is an organization that
has Reggie Miller as an alumni.And this is the Pacers team sor Larry
Bird once done the pasterer blue andyellow. You know they've they've had some

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great players. This is the Pacersorganization. This is the iteration of the
Pacers that broke the record for shotpercentage. I guess the next team that
again you didn't have og very muchwhatever, maybe helping k next team take
them down to what sixty three sixtyfour percent more hands than face. This

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is the one that did sixty seven. And that's why I was not as
confident in the Tom Thibodeau did somethingwrong, then Knicks ran out of gas,
everything else, Because here's the thing. If I did the Knicks ran
out of gas, take it wouldbe let's do a car right. Okay,
Hey, you know what, youcan't keep driving that vehicle. It's
eventually going to break down. Youcan't keep driving that vehicle. It's eventually
going to break down and then onepoint you're on the side of the road.

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I can't even do that as thecomparison for the Knicks, because it's
not the same car. Okay,the car that came into the postseason,
the car the roster that was onthe road in February wasn't the one in
March, in April and now pastmid May. And I can't come out
here and say, like, oh, load management was the biggest problem,

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because those are injuries. Like Og took the floor in Game seven,
not very long. They shut himdown quickly, couldn't run, couldn't run,
gave it us all trot. Hisbest wasn't gonna be the player,
did not want to risk further injury. Wasn't the same player. And we
can run through the list. Ithink I sent you the tweet you had
to scroll down on your phone becausethere were so many problems with the Knicks,

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of guys being injured, dealing withinjuries and more. That's not an
excuse. Again, like if ifNew York was healthy, I like what
you said, if New York washealthy fifty nine, sixty two, sixty
three, A game like that inGame seven is an historic performance by the
Pacers. The part that makes Knicksfans feel today, the part that capital
reas and sports fans and you canlet us know in the audition fifty one

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was really short. I guess soyeah, five eight, six, nine
zero nine a zero. If you'rea Knicks fan and you're feeling it today,
I got it because it was soclose. It felt like this was
the time for the Knicks. Thisfelt like the moment they were going to
get to a conference finals, thatit was finally gonna happen. And but
it was injuries. It was theyfought and fought and fought and gave everything

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they could and then Indiana eventually hadmore. This was a Nick team that
people questioned whether or not the goodBye Philadelphia. This was a Nick team
that we can do the storyline ifyou want today. If this Nick team
took the floor against the Celtics,come on, four game series over and
done in four games hand, yes, yeah, with all the injuries.

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Whoever's left, Actually, you know, when you're starting five against against the
Celtics would be what uh chiua HartensteinHeart Evencenzo and McBride I thought Heart was
kind of hurt too. Heart was, yeah, you need you'd need crowbar
and dynamite to get him off thecourse. I feel like they were just

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gonna call alumni row up, likean old school high school basketball. That
would be awesome. Let's make thatmovie. We're taking John Starks over here,
We're taking Patrick, you and Eatand Popcorn over there. We just
need people who played for Grandmama.Suit them all up. Carmela, who's
gonna pass. That's why I feelfor the Knicks. Man, Like if
the Knicks had lost by seven orsix or a buzzer beater at the end,

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not that was not the same Nickteam in Game six. I even
had Game six in it. Gamesix and Game seven that had a two
to zero lead in the series,that beat Philadelphia, that got the number
two seed. That wasn't even thesame team on the floor of the last
two games. I will say therewas one performance out there that if i'm
if I'm RJ. Barrett or Emmanuelquickly, I'm looking over gone. Hah.

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Was one of the reasons you tradedme was to get Miles McBride more
playing time, and he had hischance. Was this was his chance to
prove he was a big boy andshould have a seat at the big boy
table, and he was ineffective fortyminutes eight points minus nineteen, zero for

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six or three point range just toassist just poopy. However, as a
Knicks fan, I gotta find atleast a positive, right I come out
of this? Go all right,that one's right. Stevin Chenzel's got that
dog. Yes, he's dowg hegonna buy you. Played forty one minutes,

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scored thirty nine points, eight forten from the free throw line,
nine from fifteen from three. Mydude, My dude went out there.
He was your offense. He wasyour whole offense. But you know,
we do the percentage lit higher.Sure, I'd be great whatever. I'm
not mad at that, but he'sthere's a point where bigger players are scared
of him. Miles Turner and guysare nervous about what Devin Cenzel's gonna do

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when he gets gets near you.So if you if you give me,
and that's you know, there's stillbasketball to be played. Allegedly, I
thought, once the next loss youturn the controllers off, everything's done.
Vashion into a black hole. Butyou tell me that there's a way to
keep og Nobi without breaking the bankbecause he's a free agent. Isaya Hartenstein

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because my center, he's another one. I gotta finally way to keep him
too. I don't even keep both, may not be able to keep both.
Isn't Josh hart in that same categoryas well? And hardly sign?
I think Heart sign well, he'sobviously gonna stay though he the way he
got paid. Jalen Brunts is ayear away from me to opt out.
I think Heart's I think Hearts signedan extension. I think he's more than
one year. You couldn't be correct. That will double check on. That

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pressures the Chewest days. All right, So here's the thing. I like
a lot of our team, especiallyif they're healthy. Obviously, what do
you do with Julius Randall? Becauseagain I like Julius Randall, and I
think that if you had had JuliusRandall against the Pacers, you stand a
far better chance of winning. Becauseas much as the number one knock on

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Julius Randall, he stops the stopsthe momentum, he goes isolation, he
takes it over the ball, Hejust slows the game down a little bit.
We don't want to see that he'sthe team shooting sixty seven percent.
That's exactly what i' I want tosee. I want to see. I
want to see somebody dribble up,slow, set an offense, and get
to work. That's what in thatsituation. Yeah, shooting fifty, keep

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it moving sixty seven percent, stopit, slow it down. I don't
know. Hart did sign that contractyou mentioned extension in twenty twenty three,
so that leaves with the Knicks goingforward potentially, like you said, og
unrestricted free agents. Alec Burk's alsoin that mix. You shake Milton in

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that mix, and basically I've alreadyhad of the couple of other guys at
the end of the bench. Bojon, I believe he had another year as
well, so he's looking at twentytwenty six because I think he could be
an interesting part of the team movingforward. I really do. I don't
know. Like I said, I'mvery sad, very upset. I love
your point. I'm glad they didn'tadvance somehow, some mystic advancement, because

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they would have got worked as currentformation of my my beloved Knickerbockers. Where
well, again, what your starterswould be a Chua Hartenstein, Hartstein,
McBride, A banged up Heart andDevincenzo against the Celtics. That's a four

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game series. Kids, that's notgonna you do not want to you you
might have to punch somebody in theface to win a game. Let me
add a little bit more too,because this sounds a lot more intimidating than
it is when you read reports ofthis offseason that the Knicks have as many
as ten players that can hit freeagency. It's not the big role guys
like the not Look Charlie Brown Junioris going to be a free agent.

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No, Jacob toppin Uh, DwayneWashington Junior, Dake Kwon, Jeffries,
Da Kwan, Jeffries, Jericho Simms. I do like Jeredo Simms. I
like Jergo Sims. I think he'san important bench player. But obviously Tims
doesn't agree. So but also,like I said, I think you're Like
I said, Ohanobe can go.I think Hartenstein can go. Bruntson in

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a year, bruns A can optout of his deal. By go,
I want to clarify some By go, you mean you think the price is
gonna get too high where it's notchasing after it. Yeah, they're they're,
they they're they're not tethered to thenext They are open and going negotiate
new deals. But those, likeI said, if you if you lose
those two, Okay, now weget to see how smart are you really.
I don't think you let og leave. I think you you went and

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got him for a reason. Therebut and and he's let's be real,
he's Gean Carlos Stanton. When it'sright, oh my god, it's right.
The rest of the time he's hurt. He you know, he hasn't
played a lot of games for thenext He just they were all so good
that we all want him to stay. But this is his whole career.

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He's been hurt his whole career.So you got to think about that on
top of it, like how muchmoney can you spend on ogn Andobi knowing
that he may only give you fiftygames next year. The NBA preview to
a season is one of the hardestleagues to figure out because of how much
can happen drama wise and free agencyin a summer. If one superstar demains,

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he's not going to play for thatteam anymore, and once out of
a contract. The drama of freeagency in the NBA has become its own
soap proper. And I bring thatup because if we just have a summer
without drama, if the athletes whoare usually involved with the most drama,
not counting Lebron, that that one'salready given this summer, not counting Lebron,

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you would think the preseason expectations forthe twenty twenty four twenty twenty five
New York Knicks would be second bestteam in the Eastern Conference Eastern Conference Finals.
Now, I say that because Indiana, no matter how far they go
or probably talking about its two andthree. I take Philadelphia out of the
mix because I believe they have elevenfree agents going There is one scenario that

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in a few months, Joel andbeat could be the only player on the
roster for the Philadelphia seventy six ers. So with that much lack of clarity,
I'll take them out. And weknow the Heat are pretty active in
an offseason. The magicer talked aboutas one of the teams that could go
for a big player like Paul Georgelater in his career. More So,
there's a lot of things to stillbe decided, but realistic expectations following the

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Pacers knocking out the Knicks. Isthat this time in the fall, this
time we may of twenty twenty five, we should be talking about the Knicks
is the second best even the EasternConference, behind Boston, making a run
at the conference finals and maybe gettingover the hump and finding out what can
the Knicks roster do this offseason tofind a way to beat Boston. I
know Indiana should be the answer,but it feels like we didn't get the

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real answer out of what the Knicksand Pacers could have done. It felt
like at times we did, butit feels like the real Nick team,
however you want to phrase that,It felt like the real slim shady please
stand up, Well, the realNew York Knicks, please stand up.
Everybody's rooting for you. You know, at one point levak Merio's doing the
whole take about the national media isagainst the Knicks. Everyone wants to be

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negative, everybody's hating it on theKnicks, and then all of a sudden,
ESPN and Game seven went full opposite. That was all about the Knicks.
Like it could not have been moreof a Homer broadcast than the television
side. Steven A. Smith's interviewin Spike Lee, They're showing Steve and
a Smith walking to the game likehe's a player. They cut to Bob

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Myers at the end of the gamethey ask him, what do you think
about what the Pacers can do?And Myers goes on a soliloquy about the
Knicks, like, if you werea Pacer fan, you had to be
furious about the television coverage of Gameseven. A New York sports fan,
maybe not so much. But everyonewanted the Knigs. It felt like,
well they brought Reggie Miller in early. When you listen to Bark and everybody's

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smacking around the Knicks. They definitelyfelt like when the Knicks were the favorites,
everybody loved the Pacers. When theKnicks began to because of the injuries,
that's when they started noticing it.It's a very annoying thing. I
don't I don't love it. AndTyrese Haliburton in the post game with the
Reggie Miller choke hoodie, what adork. I can't believe I went from
liking a player to finding him sounlikable in about a three week span.

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Ads you thought Doris is yapping awaya little too much during the game,
there I don't think I've ever beenmore annoyed by a person I've never met
in my life. Like if ifJalen Brunson acted the way Halliburn acted,
Oh he's got to grow up.Oh he's got whatever. Halliburn's out there

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acting a fool, and I enjoyit, Don't get me wrong. She's
like, this is when he's hisbest, this is when he's great.
I love it. I don't know. She's like the female Trump. Now
he's the best, he's really thegreatest. I'm so sick of watching him
when he just all you guys wassick of it because she hates the Knicks
any like, like I say,the herds thing could go out, Heartstock

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can go out and just shoves Moightyon the ground. Oh that's oh well
childish, how dare he? Andthen Myles target to say everything, well
he must have aggravated him, likeshe's she's a hater, absolute hater.
That's not why we lost. Welost because of injuries and because the Pacers
shot the lights out of the gym. But she just I I don't like

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to be that guy, but man, she hates us. It's pretty easy
quickly to find out members of themedia who love and hate the Knicks,
like they really don't do a greatjob of hiding it. Now again,
the lack and I are on yourhome for Knicks basketball in the Capitol region.
There's no reason for us to hideour rooting interest for the Knicks because
it's out the station and New Yorksports fans and the New York team and

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everything else. But boy, thatwhole thing flipped. And I get why
paincer fan feels like they're a bitdisrespected by it because they had an all
time great performance in the talk nationallyis not about the all time performance the
pacer has just put on. It'sabout what happens for the future of the
New York Knicks. They had almostgot to the conference finals. We almost
got a Boston New York Conference Finals. But look in Game six, in

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Game seven, they weren't the betterteam on the floor, the Knicks overall
at the end of the series.Like, this is the fun part about
a seven game series. You findout who's the best team at the end
of the series. Now, ifthey had a seven game series in February,
would we say the same thing.If they had a seven game series
in mid March, would we saythe same thing. And as much as
I would love to say about loadmanagement, I can't. I can't.

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It's a storyline, sure, butthat's almost undercutting what the Pacers did in
game seven. Now, if theyshot fifty two percent, oh, I
would have turned on that mic andfound some audio to replay. Uh,
I hate you, I hate themall, Gay Cavier Jay, He's over.

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He says, Nick should trade forMichale Bridges from the nets and complete
the Villanova connection. We as center. Who's the Nova center? We need
a Nova center too, right?Who can I see the Bridges? I
can't even understand if people are seriousabout the Bridges thing, because he actually
is a good player. Yeah,yeah, he actually like and it doesn't
really make senset's hate the Knicks sothey would never help the next They would

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never help the next, But thatwould be funny. Trade is pretty good,
Like he actually would be a goodplayer on the team. Yeah,
I mean, i'll take, I'lltake, I'll take, so I'll take.
Anybody can help them win, don'tget me wrong, but just bring
in all Villanova, Okay, getour guy, Joe Kremo, the Prada,
Scotia, Glennville, get him out. There. You mentioned Jay Wright
earlier in the spring. Just let'sall go all in on this, all

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right, nothing but Villanova. Iknow everyone hated the Knicks loss, or
especially for her Nick. Oh,you know what, I want to do
this, but we got a fewminutes here. I want to do this.
Well, that bigger upset this weekend, that you bigger up said this
weekend that this happened on Twitter,that the Knicks actually blew the series here
or you had a cordial argument andwas finished on a Saturday night on social

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media? Because who was it was? Is it just incredible on Twitter happened?
I didn't see that one coming.That was so yeah, I was
shocked. I was shocked. Hewent at you because that was a classic,
like somebody got something wrong in sportsgambling got up. Well, then

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guys started with Steve from flock support, you know, talking about you know,
just how tough it is to thatwas it. Ryan Clark said,
the schedule has been made to beatthe Steelers, So I said, I
replied to him, the Steelers declineof talent makes any schedule hard. Hashtag

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Raider nation, so he put eventhe Raiders logo can't stand watching the Raiders
one eye has an eyepatch, theother one's closed. And then I was
gonna say something. I was like, you know what, Steve, have
your moment and then just incredible willgood call on the Knicks money line bet
llll like I said they were eithergoing to winter blown out good call only
here what you wanted, you know, because again I did say that,

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like and if you notice you whenI did my play day, I was
like, ah, money line,I think they're gonna win. I and
then and it was in what wasthe most shocking turn of events, he
was actually friends. Yes on aSaturday night where you feel like, you
know what people want to argue whenthey want to go at it, might
have a few drinks in their system, like oh gosh, my phone's gonna
lay up all day on a Saturdaynight social media battle, no friend friends

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cockers back with enjoy the show.I had pacers manas five like beers on
you. He has already had beerson you, So I owe you.
Yankee trip a few years back,my brother got me tickets. It was
CC's tribute game. I'm out camping. Have a good night, buddy.
I'm like, that was the bestinteraction I've ever had on Twitter acts or

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whatever the hell it is. LikeLI saidarily, I'm like, yeah,
I just and you know me mannine times out of times, and I
says, oh, great call onthat bat and I at the time I
was like, thanks, you knowwhatever, I blew it. But it
was like that was one where Idid. I wasn't like out here like
if I'm pounding my chest like jniche money line is gonna make you rich,
don't worry about Prescott well forre anyof that. You need to bet

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Knicks money line and they lose,I'm gonna be here like yeah, so
what had happened? I am sorry, so sorry, But like that was
one where I was like, Idon't think the spread matters. I think
the Knicks you're either gonna get blownout or they're gonna win, So don't
worry about the spread. Ignore thespread, bet them money line or if
you like, if you need thePacers are gonna win, take the Pacers.

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But I'm gonna take the next Sothat's why I was like, I
was like, how dare you?I didn't just say take the money line.
I said, there was a wholething there. It turns out he's
just out camping having a good time, Like, yo, damn it.
You know what justin what you did? They're very political. I like,
if you're listening, run for office, you know what I mean? Like,
hey, you worked it well,you got the pop, you got
the recognition, you handled yourself well. If you're out, he had a

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few drinks for you. We've hadconversations in here and trying to like do
another Yankees trip like a bus.We haven't put all the pieces together yet
because nobody's here enough to have likeone room conversation, like guys run stations
in freaking Poughkeepsie now or something nonsense. If we do do it, we
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Victory Monday. The special Sunday editionof the Aubney Firebirds goes just like the
rest of the games have been going, and that is the Firebirds dominate.
It's it's it's one of those thingsI've been I've been talking to head coach

(29:41):
David Ware, who will join ustomorrow. At some point I think,
well, no, you know what, Maybe we save him a little later
in the week. Ooh, allright, because we're gonna be out live.
Maybe we'll see, we'll see whathe wants to do. He's uh,
he's in good spirits right now.I can tell you that, but
like you look at the way thisseason has gone so far for the Firebirds.
The Orlando Predators came in and playedsome of the best football I've ever

(30:03):
seen out of that organization. Firebirdsable to get it done. We went
sixty two to fifty nine in overtime. Nashville comes in and if not for
some craziness towards the end of thefirst and even a little later in the
second half, this is a blowout. They But Firebirds wins fifty one to
forty one. Minnesota the myth don'teven exist, They don't even live after

(30:26):
their name just goes to show there'sno mills in Minnesota. Uh so Smith,
same thing. So we win thatone won nothing as a forfeit because
and like I love the one oneof my buddies who covers the league from
another market, is it? Whyis the cow's a forfeit? Like would
you like to see the receipts fromour plane tickets that never got used to

(30:49):
go play them? Or would youlike to see all the money that I
threw away preparing to host them inwhich and the emails them agreeing to come
to our arena to play us.We should get two four fits from them,
and then yesterday's game, this isa class and domination sixty six fifteen

(31:12):
and it was not that close.Yeah, I want to give a little
beyond the broadcast, a little sneak, peek, a little you'll only hear
this on Fox Sports. Lovakan guysninety five to nine to nine eighty of
what happened before the game. Thishappened in the tunnel leading up to kickoff.
So my broadcast partner during the gamesis Andrew Santillo. So what Andrew
does on an audio side. Youmight hear in a pregame show. You

(31:33):
might hear the interview with a manageror a coach that airs in the pregame,
But because we're on video side,we're not gonna air that. We're
gonna basically talk about the interviews wehad with coaches as we do our own
pregame live on the air. SoAndrew and this opportunity had to rarely happens
like this because he's the home broadcaster, had a chance to talk to the
away coach in the locker room.That conversation happened. It was on the

(31:55):
field, actually, yes, andI was doing some other stuff and I
happened to see it. I'm like, I was trying to get closer.
I good hero was being said,Oh, don't worry, Dwayne Hollis got
close. Oh no. So coachGary Thomas was talking to Andrew and he
told him about the lineup and players, and in that course of the conversation
he told Andrew, hey, ourbest defender who is going to be guarding

(32:15):
Darius Prince's out. His name isMichael Lawson. He's number four. He's
our best defender motion coverage. He'sgonna be locked up on Prince. We
think he can do a pretty goodjob on Prince. Problem is he's out
now, and our backup plan it'snot as good. Oh boy. So
Andrew's got this information now and he'snot doing anything wrong. He's prepping for

(32:36):
the game. He goes over totalk to coach where he's like, you
know, there's injuries here, andat some point in the conversation he says,
you know, Losson might be outtoday for the Southwest Kansas storm.
How far out of kick offices?An hour? Okay, maybe ninety minutes
okay. So while he's having thisconversation with coach, where again he's not
like feeding him like a like aa rat. He's doing his job.

(32:58):
He's interviewing the coach and getting quotDwayne Hollis hears and he goes, huh,
it's gonna be a long day forthem, knowing the best defender can't
guard Prince. Now this is whereit gets wild again. I said his
number was four. Okay, Sowe're doing this in the pregame that lost
in The best defender for the Stormis gonna be out for the game.
That's gonna be a great matchup forDarius Sprints. The teams come out of

(33:20):
the locker room and there was anumber four on the field for the Southwest
Kansas Storm. So again, thecoach just told him to his face,
four is out. Four is notplaying. But then we start looking at
four and we're like, hey,he doesn't look like Michael Lawson. No,
he looks like all the Knight.He looks like all the Night.

(33:42):
What's going on here? So allof a sudden we started to wonder,
like, is coach Thomas using Nightas a decoy to make it seem like
Lawson still playing? So we're like, in the prehim, We're like,
what happened? They just gave himthe same number opening kickoff. There he
goes running on the field. We'relike, what is happening? Did the
opposing coach just line of the homebroadcasters to try to throw the home team

(34:07):
off? That was made very quicklyon the second play of the game,
the back right because Darius sprint runsa go route. Yeah yeah, and
the defenders about four yards behind.Funny, you want to know funny?
Game was over after that, weknew the Stormer in trouble after the second
offensive play for the Firebirds. Iwas pulled in a lot of different directions
during yesterday's game, but at thatpoint I was still on the wall.

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So where we hang out, sothe owners and then some of the front
office, we hang out by thefield suites, right on the wall where
the problems come out. So Dariusis saying something to Mike. I look
over at Darius. Darius looks atme, He gives me a wink and
pulls his helmet down. I gosee you in the end zone. Goat
show gone. Everybody looked at itand woke went, how'd you know he

(34:50):
was gonna do that? I'm like, I didn't think would be that play,
But I mean the guy's got whattwenty five touchdowns on the year or
some nonsense. We we finally havea stat system. That was where half
a day there's a new stat systemin place. So I was trying to
learn it so I could teach people. But everybody I brought in to try
and show them something made it moreconfusing to me. It was a thing.
It was a thing. But thestats will be updated. If I

(35:14):
have to sit home and watch allthe games over again, I will give
them done so. But yeah,so that was but all right, who
was the best defender? So heknew as well better he might have a
mispatch. I didn't care who wasWho was the name of the I believe
it was Michael Lawson number because there'sa Marquise laws in Greenwood twenty one who
was playing. No, he didn'tplay. Lawson is not playing the game,

(35:35):
okay, but it seemed like hewas going to play. So that's
so. And let me let mehelp you too, because I think that
it'll make you feel better. Therule is the league rule is I have
to provide my lineup two hours beforethe game. So anything under two hours
is not It's not dirty pool likeit is not anything he said after that.

(35:55):
It's like, it's okay, ifyou, like, three hours out
of a coach is dumb enough totell local reporters that that's a whole other
thing. But two hours out you'resupposed to have the other team's roster by
that all right, So he didn'tdo anything wrong. You didn't do anything
wrong. And even then again,if he did, if you're dumb enough
to tell the other teams reporters,the voices think hey, what's going on?
And let me put like this.I really like Andrew Santello and Tom

(36:22):
McCloskey, who do the uh,who do the can play by playing the
color commentary? Uh, it wouldbe if he got that if they if
if a opposing coach openly gave oneof you information like that and you didn't
relay it to us, it wouldbe a very different broadcast team the next
time out. Because that's the Imean that, Come on, if you're

(36:44):
gonna tell me it's like one thing, like it could be one thing if
you guys were walking by it,saw it on a desk, Okay,
don't right, that's wrong. Butif the guy's like, yeah, well,
you know, we had this greatgame plan I will tell you this.
Though Darius Prince is the name,then I hear more. He is
the definition of the Oh we couldhave covered him with you know what I

(37:06):
mean? Like yea, with alldue respect to Michael Laws, and he
has entered the Jordan Travis world wherehe's not a fifty point difference. Yeah,
he would have been. He wouldhave maybe one touchdown difference. Right,
come on, we had I justheard the story not so long ago
there was another team. I thinkthey're up ahead of us, and maybe
maybe it was this, maybe itwas before this happened, but it was.

(37:28):
No one of the coaches knows oneof our coaches, and that coach
keeps calling our coach going. Igot a guy who wants to cover six.
I got a guy who thinks hecan cover six all game. Well,
Kenny, No, I wouldn't puthim on Wade. And Wade's really
good too, don't get me wrong. Like we always talk about Darius Prince,

(37:49):
but Markel Wade's out there doing workas well. And Philip Barnett was
back this week. How just imposinglylarge does Philip Barnett look on that field
right now, like he's so big, like he's like and not fat,
like he's just he's jacked. It'sinteresting because he actually looks bigger on defense.
He looks like Cam Chansen when he'splaying defense, that's where he almost

(38:09):
stands out more. But when yousee it's like like markl. Wade,
who is amazing number zero, DariusPran's amazing number six. They're like average
size receivers. And then there's Barnettwho's like five inches taller, probably fifteen
pounds heavier, you know, justa little hopper he gets after him.

(38:30):
Man, it's this team is startingto click. It's really starting to click.
The Firebirds destroying Southwest Kansas. Itfeels like feels like the East versus
West. There could be a littlebit of a drop off. We see
that all time professional sports, andI'm talking about better conferences. The teams
like Orlando Nashville seem to be alittle higher level of arena football. But

(38:52):
you can hear my hesitation this Friday, Levac. We hit on this in
the broadcast and you and I weretext about this a little bit too Friday
night. You can make a casethese are the two best teams in arena
football, like we did that withOrlando and Orlando showed it did the same
conversation with Nashville, but Orlando andNashville's records have gone in different directions.
When the West Texas Desert Hawks cometo town three and one, if they

(39:16):
come in and knock off the Firebirds, they're gonna say they're the best team
in Arena football, and they havethe right to say that. This could
be the matchup between the top twoteams in arena football and twenty twenty four
on Friday night inside MVP. Right, and let's clarify that one more time
too. We will get to theFirewells a little later on in this hour
and what the loss met. Buteven though the fire Wolves lost, this

(39:37):
game will remain on Friday night insideMVP area. Correct to like to make
that move now, I mean wherewe hear, this is where we are.
So we're gonna we're gonna roll forwarda Friday night, Friday night,
seven o'clock. All right, letme let me tell you this. Here's
here's the situation moving forward. Everysingle team is going to approach the Firebirds

(40:00):
game as if we are the SuperBowl. We are the Arena Bowl.
And there's multiple reasons for this.One is the fans. I think we
had we had just under three thousandon Sunday. I think it was twenty
seven something. I think I'm tryingto remember the number. Now everybody stayed
the whole game, which you knowsucks, but it was just seventy degree
Sunday with sunshine, like it wasa weird one blowout anyway loud. So

(40:24):
that's part of it. The otherpart is that they see everybody say,
the only reason that this league isgood is we're here and this that the
other thing. Now we're playing likewe're supposed to be playing, so we
are going to get everyone's best shot. There's gonna be no nobody's going nobody's
coming and going, Oh, it'sjust the Firebirds. Based on what I've
seen so far, the Predators areare right. They're as close as as

(40:45):
you're gonna get. But West Texashere's why they're so dang good. Tell
me if you recognize some of theselovely, lovely names. What about Devin
Wilson. I remember him. Hewas uno on the Sharks. He was
that big receiver. Oh gosh,yeah he's back and he's playing for them.

(41:10):
I'm trying to I'm looking for theones that you guys are were There's
a quarterback you may have heard ofbefore. His name is Jonathan Bain.
Oh I thought he was retired.He's still playing. He is still playing.
Jonathan Bain, who of course waswith the Empire for a little bit.
But remember what he was able todo. You know that game he
had with the Predators before he gothurt. What he was able to do

(41:31):
Carolina Cobrace title game. Yep.Kenny Veal, former Robbity player. I
mean there's a lot of the outlaw. Lonni Outlaw is massive. He's about
six foot seven and we've talked aboutWe've covered a lot of his games.
I think he's gotta have double digittouchdowns. Now, Kenny feel I believe
was on the Empire championship teams,right, yeah, yeah, weird,

(41:52):
weird thinking about Kenny vie Vegan.Yeah, I mean this is this This
team is no joke. And ChrisSigfried, who was the commissioner of the
NAL, as the head coach ofthis team. I will tell you that
the ownership Zach Boggy is one ofmy favorite people in indoor football and arena
football. And to add another storylineto that game, why Friday Night's gonna

(42:13):
be so intense, so much theway Charles McCollum is there too, is
the other quarterback, and he's amonster. He's an absolute monster. Well,
that game is going to be somuch fun for Campbello region sports fans.
It's Memorial Day weekend, It's Fridaynight. You can get the weekend
started right. The summer weekend officiallyoff? Is that West Texas and Albany
will play each other twice in athree week span, correct, Levaca,
Like, is that six to eightgames still locked in for Permian or schedule

(42:36):
things moving? Because the original scheduleit said Albany hosting West Texas, then
Nashville road game, then Odessa.Is that still locked in that way?
Because that's three coming up? It'snothing past our little road trip is official?
By road trip, you mean toNashville, Nashville and then West Texas.
Okay, that is locked in that? Okay, Yeah, last I

(42:59):
heard it was so after that.Here's how can I do this and not
get in trouble or sounds stupid inthe future. Here's the last thing I
heard. Okay, so this mayhave changed because I'm not in these meetings
every day. This is three fortyfive, by the way podcast audience.
So whatever you're listening Monday, anythingcould change right now. West Texas will
be here Friday. That is done, That is happening. They're on their

(43:20):
way. We are going to Nashvilleon the second of June. We are
going to Odessa, Texas to playthe Premium Panthers. I mean, so
the second game against West Texas,Yo, Mojo go, that'll be on
the eighth. I've heard that weare still keeping the Saturday, June fifteenth
date, obviously not playing the Soul. I've heard that we are still going

(43:45):
to Billings on June twentieth. AndI've heard, and I actually heard this
from the owner of the Predators thatwe are now instead of going to Georgia
on June thirtieth, we're going toOrlando. So that's what I've heard,
all right. There is a chanceI understand that maybe the that's all I

(44:12):
gotta say. It's a chance thetwentieth could be here, but it's not
positive, but it's still more likelyto go there. But there's a chance
the twentieth could be here. Butthat's like there's still some final negotiations.
The one thing I've had heard atthe playoffs will be high seed hosting.
Yeah, all right, cool,so we keep doing what we're doing.
You're gonna need a playoff game.I believe that there's every single person who

(44:37):
worked who works for MVV Arena.Yesterday at some point walked up to myself
and Mike Quarter. Each championship goingto be here, championship, going to
be here, championship, And Iknow Mike's working on that. So trust
me, if there's no way toplay football at the MVP Arena, Mike
Quarter is fighting for it right now. And Andy Gelcher's guy's back and Richie
says it has it back there.But Mike's the guy who just he's he's

(45:01):
a dog on a bone man.He's like he's calling all these other owners
going, well, won't you comehere? Wat'ch just come here? We
know we're doing before watch you comehere. So that's that's the last I
heard. And if that changes,of course, we'll you know, I
know the official announcement is due,so we'll have that soon. But most
important, get your tickets for Fridaynight. It's gonna be amazing. I

(45:22):
this this game that we just won, the sixty six fifteen guys, I
missed. Here's the here's the playsI saw, okay, I saw Darius's
first touchdown. I saw one ofLewandowski's touchdowns when he came in for Jake
Medlock. I saw Jake's big run. I saw the clock go to zero.

(45:44):
Aside from that, I was dealingwith craziness. But what happened.
A bunch of Kansas, a bunchof Southwest Kansas fans came all the way
to Albany, New York and gotkicked out of the game. What I
guess they were? They were somethinglike that. I got a call whenever
something major happens security to let meknow, you know, like, hey,

(46:06):
just you know, we just webooted to people. Oh god,
who do I know them? Idon't think so. I have different Kansas.
Oh okay, cool? All right, bye bye bye by cars.
Do you know how long that isto get there? The team itself and
flew to Ligordia through from from Denver, which is a five hour ride,
and then they drove they ranted vehiclesand drove vans up trying to think all

(46:28):
the things there were, uh,misunderstands about a million different things throughout the
whole building. It was. Itwas crazy. It was the craziest day
I've ever had with this title ofteam president. Craziest day. As a
matter of fact, I told someof the guys about today over lunch and
they all died. They were alljust like, better you than me.

(46:52):
So life is the president, Levic. I had other things you'd like to
share, but maybe it's too earlyin the season. I just want to
put it like, I'll be asvague as possible. I got a call
over someone going to the bathroom wherethey shouldn't. Oh no, at the

(47:13):
game inside the arena, No,not inside, but just outside. And
again, you can't say enough aboutthe security team at the NBP. They're
amazing. But it's just one ofthose things, like are you sure I'm
supposed to did you mean to callme? Like? What am I?
What do I do? I needto do? I need to handle this.

(47:35):
Here's where they sit, talk tothem. Okay, I'll tell you,
I'll get I'm on it. Yeah, but it's but you know,
look, it's everybody's awesome. Thatman, that game was incredible. I
can't wait. Friday nights can beincredible. Uh, it's the Mohawk Chevrolet
game. They're sponsoring it. TheWe tried to set it up before and
some things happened. Minnesota show upnational anthem from our guy, one of

(48:00):
our guys from Special Olympics, soon a Special Olympics early. But we're
also honoring frontline employees in military appreciationbecause the way the season changed. We're
trying to do all the things thatwe want to do well on all the
great people. So we looked atit all. We said, you know,
here's the Capitol Region game, soyou know we're gonna be doing discount

(48:21):
right by the military ID or frontlineID. I gotta go to our office,
gotta go to the box office toget it, and we're gonna do
a lot of fun stuff. Butit's gonna be a Friday night game,
Friday Night Lights against against Odessa.How's that? Friday night Lights against the
team from Odessa in Albany? CanI wait you and I again, Levac,
As we mentioned it on our Fridayshow, we'll be broadcasting live from

(48:42):
MVP are now I like, likeI'm not getting excited, like we'll be
doing it. Levac will be thereas much as possible on our show Friday
live from m V period. Ithink I might be able to get you
for two hours. Again, it'sover under one hundred and twenty minutes.
We'll find out on Friday show.Allegedly we're gonna mean the Atrium is wow.
I liked their setup last time,but we could be going to the
AGA. Highly doubt I'll be ableto sit in the AH trim for two

(49:04):
hours. We needn visit you inthe A trim for two Fox Sports ninety
eight will be I have site.I have to teach everybody's stats. I
have to. There's a chance thefan jersey is the second batch will be
in by Friday. The chances ofbeing able to sit down with you for
two hours in the AH room andnot in my office very m. Fox

(49:29):
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whether or not. Oh figure out. I mean, I'll walk around like,
can I get a headset? CanI just do it from a headset?
Could you imagine how great that wouldbe? Levac's got a headset?
Is walk out? I'm gonna putthat down. I said no, it
goes out front then, and that'swhy I think Judge is gonna have a

(49:49):
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(50:34):
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(52:45):
that I have angered somebody at acorporate level. We'll take the Hannah Storm
podcast back, all right. Haveyou noticed once a week, once a
show, we get some commercial thatI just don't think belongs to here?
Uh man. Sorry, So,as a Knicks fan, I think I
feel the same way FireWolves fans feel. I'm actually a fan of both.

(53:07):
But like right now, you're superdisappointed. Right now, you're super disappointed.
As a Knicks fan, I'm superdisappointed. I thought they would get
pass the Pacers. For sure,didn't happen. But realistically, when you
look hindsight, what an amazing seasonas a fire Wolves fan. And they
lost to the Buffalo Bandits two games. So they lost here and they lost

(53:29):
in Buffalo. That's a tough turnaroundtoo, go right from here to Buffalo
play again. Once he lost thefirst game inside MVP Arena, Firewolf fans
turned out, but you knew you'regonna beet a big disadvantage for game two
because of how wild that crowd getsin Western New York. I saw some
photos and I've seen it all seasonlong. That's the best crowd in the
NLL. And they have that hometurf advantage against the Bandits in front of

(53:51):
that wild Buffalo crowd. That wasgoing to be an uphill battle of the
entire time and unfortunately doesn't go inAlby's favor. No, but a three
win team a year ago, nowyou go in and you you host your
home. You have home field forthe the championship series. Didn't work out
your way, but that's a greatyear. That's an amazing year. And

(54:15):
that's year two. So here wego, like you know what I mean,
Like you're looking at it at achance to get out on the ground
level, to be a fan ofan organization. A lot of people are
still learning what it is. Idon't know how you don't start going to
those games. What the PLL comesin next weekend, No June, Yeah,
June June first and second, Sogo watch the PLL outdoor lacrosse and

(54:39):
you'll see some of the guys thatyou fall in love with in the NLL.
But now they're here and you andyou you got to be proud of
that season. You've got the headcoach of the Aaron, Glenn Clark.
You've got the GM of the Aaroncoach, Glenn Clark. You've got two
Rookie of the Year finalists, andTy Kurtz and Alex Simmons wins the award.
A veteran in Duckie Jamison. Theeasy players to root for. You've

(55:00):
heard from the personalities and so manymore. We've been so fortunate to talk
to a lot of the players thisseason to show off that personality so easy
to root for, and now youflip it around to twenty twenty five.
I love the Knicks comparison, Lovac, because we've talked about the Knicks at
the top of the hour that thenext season, the expectations will be a
lot higher. The local fans willknow the expectations are higher, They'll have

(55:23):
a new idea of what the franchisecan do, and the expectation is this
can be a championship contender when youknow, especially with a fire Wolf franchise
that is truly still growing and aNick fan base that is a lot older
than younger. Because the Knicks hadbeen bad for so long. Now,
all of a sudden, the followingof the team, the engagement for the

(55:44):
team, the oh yeah, thisis the team I root for because they
know how good they can be forthe future. All that stuff matters for
twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, Yeah, this isn't going anywhere.
I also like when you think abouttoo, like a lot of these guys
have don't played together before, andthey would practice on the weekends and that
was about it. To jealous fastthey have, like, I don't know

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if that's the long term plan,like they do they kind of take the
model that we've got with the Firebirdsand bring everybody into town for the full
season at some point. Because ifyou do that, imagine how much better
they get that where they're working togetherall week long. That I don't know
if they're able to do that.I hope they are. I think it
would improve all that stuff. Itotally agree. I think that's got to

(56:29):
go to a higher level with theleague, right that, citing those decisions
and finances and revenue and all thatstuff. It'd be great. I would
support that. I hope everyone elsesees that same thing too, for sure.
Just coming up with ways we canget to that next step, you
know, like going to the gymall the time, Like what you won't
do at all with me? Well, you know you have your new vehicle.

(56:50):
Now, why don't you just driveyour new vehicle to the gym.
I've responded to your text, allright, I told you I was gonna
go with you. I was gonnaget mental rout. You never say you
go with me like I've I'll putit in some mental reps. I text
guys in Boston Dan. This morning, my way in to work, I'm
like, I'm starting a real gymresident resident. I can't even talk.
I'm getting after the gym regimen.That's the word I was trying to do.

(57:15):
And as I'm just tired of feelinglike poop, I'm ready to go
again like I was in shape oncein my life. I'd like to try
to get back there. Who's comingwith me? I know, Boston Dan's
been on a great diet. Youhave not, but you talk about getting
in shade from time to time.So I was like, listen, let's
do it. God's well, I'lldo a lot of mental reps with you,
like what never mind, You're welcome, And then Dan, how about

(57:38):
no? I don't know. Theonly thing worse than you, who's obviously
like mocking me and not gonna helpwork out, is Dan who fires back.
I'm at the doctors now home.I don't pass out when they take
my blood. I was like,you know what, bleep you both,
bleep, you both. I hopeyou stick around for a hour or two
here of the vacuum guys back becausethe top four and four is gonna lead

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