October 2, 2025 • 9 mins
Curtis Greco from The Imperfect Messenger Foundation joined Todd to discuss President Trump's Middle East peace plan, Defense Secretary Hegseth's speech to Generals and Admirals and the "Government Shutdown".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're talking with Curtis Greco from the Imperfect Messenger Foundation,
and all kinds of things in the news to talk about. Curtis,
let's talk about the summoning of all the generals and
admirals to Arlington, Virginia. I think it was summer there
by the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and of course at
the behest President Trump and heg Seth did the most
(00:22):
impactful speaking as he basically read the Riot Act to
the generals and admirals and said, all this stuff we've
been doing, We're not doing it anymore, to paraphrase, no
more fatties, no more dudes and dresses, no more climate
change crap, no identity months, none of that. What did
you think of that whole presentation?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, you know, it's a powerful particularly in the sense
where you have all of these elites, so called pop
chaer folks coming to face some truths that need to
be faced, you know. To see the so called elite
commanders of the US military forces summoned, I think is
(01:05):
long overdue, particularly because I think you look at the
military particularly since Clinton, particularly since Clinton, where some of
these the anointing of these gender politics began to be
imposed on restructuring the military. Trump has really come clear
with he's fighting on the on the world stage, a
(01:31):
battle that is only aided by being able to promote
the US military as a fierce fighting force.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, and of course it has lost some of its
luster in that way, and really its objectives have been
sort of bastardized. I think that was one of the
other things that that heg Seth made clear. We're not
here to do any engineering of society or anything like that.
We're here to be the bullys on the block when
(02:01):
we need to be the bullies. But more importantly, people
have to believe we can bully them. So we need
to get our act together. Well.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely, it needs to be seen not only just that
are you fighting the enemy within the US military, the
US military from a political apparatus, not as a fighting force,
but as a political apparatus. And I think the greatest
feature of this talking to is going to be the
ability of Hegseth and Trump to begin to identify where
(02:30):
are the weak spots, where's the political adversaries within the
US military that they're going to have to deal with,
Because presently, just from my own contacts within the Pentagon
folks that I've dealt with and worked with over the years.
One of the problems that Hegseth is having is that
none of them. The greatest opposition for Hegseth is in
that area of the assigned military. These DEI operatives who
(02:54):
don't look at Hegseth as a legitimate leader of the Pentagon.
They don't see the military sperience as being that visceral.
They don't see they seem more as a ne Anderthal
than as a political or than as a leader of
a force. This is a huge problem for President Trump.
But more importantly, I think it needs to be made
clear that not all former Secretary of Defenses of Defense
(03:17):
have had military experience. Now, of course hessef does have
pretty dramatic experience, But I think that the key point
to take away from that presentation is that Trump is
finding a battle within his own administration, particularly is to
the question of legitimacy of excess as a leader. Number one.
Number two, that the political adversaries that have been baked
(03:38):
in that this deep state mantra are still heavily populated
within the Pentagon and they need to be excised. They
need to be identified and then so that they can.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Excise them, no doubt, Curtis Greco with the Imperfect Messenger
foundation is with us moving off of that subject, but
to one that is much related. I think this week
Trump came out with a peace plan for the Middle
East that basically involved all the nations in that area
of the world plus Europe signing onto this deal where
(04:10):
there will be a slow withdrawal of the Israelis and
the Amassl sign onto this and then if they don't,
we're going to let Israel do what they want to do.
Was the basic gist of it. Curtis, give me your
analysis of that plan.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
In classic Trump form, I think is he is going
to go down in history as a remarkable, remarkable talent
in navigating a way around and passed the articles and
obstacles that have plagued international politics for the last century
at least. The British issue that goes back all the
(04:48):
way to volvefour agreement, and I think it was nineteen
seventeen when it was originally signed, has planted the British
in the British hierarchy, which became more dominant with the
advent of MI six and their intelligence environment where the
British basically created a permanent legacy of failure. And the
(05:09):
reason why was because as long as there's conflict, as
long as there is demand for participation outside of the
immediate conflict, there's always a need for somebody a military influence,
someone who has an economic interest in the area. In
the case the case with Trump, what's brilliant about his
approach is is he went out and he created the
(05:31):
solution before ever presenting it to the Israelis, before ever
presenting it to Hamas. So if you recall his trip
into the Middle East where he met with the royal
family of Saudi Arabia, he ret with them, and he's
they read with Katar, he met with the Jordanian King
of Jordan, and the purpose of all of those meetings
(05:53):
was to shore up an assurance with Trump and these
leaders that they were going to work together to solve
the problem with the issue regarding palacinies, with the issue
regarding Gaza and the Israelis, and how to create a
permanent solution. So while everyone's sitting out wondering whether or
not there is going to be success in the Middle East,
they're looking for some sort of panic on the from
(06:14):
the Trump administration because things don't seem to be going
the way he wants. But Trump is very patiently, very methodical,
and I think that's the brilliant approach. Why. I think
that if any administration over the last sixty years, all
the way back to the Johnson administration and the sixty
seven year war in nineteen six seven war, I think
(06:35):
this has got to be the most significant move of
any administration or any move by any political needs to
create a permanent solution. And I think Trump is going
to go down as as probably the master of providing
the solution that I believe they're going to execute.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Curtis's final thing to talk about, of course, another shutdown
the president and it said, we may just take advantage
of the shutdown to basically gut some more government agencies
and get rid of some overpaid, useless government employees, sort
of a Doge two point zero? Do you think that
can happen? And who do you think comes out the
(07:15):
pr winner when this shutdown is all said and done, well.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
As long as the Trump administration maintains the capacity of
the government to continue to serve those who depend on
the government, whether it's military pay, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
all of these things continue on. They're already baked into
the monetary demands of the federal government. So when they
talk about shutdown, it's more politically severe for the loser
(07:42):
than it is for the American public. And it's always
been that way. So to answer your question, the ones
that are going to get nailed on this, it's going
to be the Democrats, and ultimately, probably by the end
of the week, you're going to see they only need
three more votes, right, They only need three more Democrats
to jump ship under the Schumer the Schumer Ship and
for them to sign off on this and have it
(08:04):
down the road. Ultimately, I think what this is going
to show is there's a severe problem with this budgeting
system that has been going on for the last thirty years,
where they cannot seem to get from one year to
the next without some sort of complicit behavior that require
it will require some sort of access. That's going to end.
And I think that that's it and Trump ultimately that's
(08:29):
going to become more and more apparent over the next
few months, and that is the solution. The Federal Reserve
is going to have to be dealt with because one
of the largest problems that is behind all of this,
I mean, there's political cannery going on with the George
Soros and those types of pagan political groups who are
forcing this sort of nonsense about paying for health care
(08:50):
for illegals and all this sort of belligerence, and that
too will come to a will eventually come to a
solution as they become more suspect, more expected by the
political apparatus that's going to chase them down. But more
importantly is that at some point the Democrat Party is
going to have to find a way to reconstitute itself
(09:11):
because if they don't, they're the likelihood of them coming
back with a political force to take back the House
or even the presidency is going to be decades in
the offering if they don't start acting like adults.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's Curtis Greco with the Imperfect Messenger Foundation, always things
to talk about. Curtis. We appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's always a pleasure to be with you.
We're talking with Curtis Greco from the Imperfect Messenger Foundation,
and all kinds of things in the news to talk about. Curtis,
let's talk about the summoning of all the generals and
admirals to Arlington, Virginia. I think it was summer there
by the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and of course at
the behest President Trump and heg Seth did the most
(00:22):
impactful speaking as he basically read the Riot Act to
the generals and admirals and said, all this stuff we've
been doing, We're not doing it anymore, to paraphrase, no
more fatties, no more dudes and dresses, no more climate
change crap, no identity months, none of that. What did
you think of that whole presentation?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, you know, it's a powerful particularly in the sense
where you have all of these elites, so called pop
chaer folks coming to face some truths that need to
be faced, you know. To see the so called elite
commanders of the US military forces summoned, I think is
(01:05):
long overdue, particularly because I think you look at the
military particularly since Clinton, particularly since Clinton, where some of
these the anointing of these gender politics began to be
imposed on restructuring the military. Trump has really come clear
with he's fighting on the on the world stage, a
(01:31):
battle that is only aided by being able to promote
the US military as a fierce fighting force.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, and of course it has lost some of its
luster in that way, and really its objectives have been
sort of bastardized. I think that was one of the
other things that that heg Seth made clear. We're not
here to do any engineering of society or anything like that.
We're here to be the bullys on the block when
(02:01):
we need to be the bullies. But more importantly, people
have to believe we can bully them. So we need
to get our act together. Well.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely, it needs to be seen not only just that
are you fighting the enemy within the US military, the
US military from a political apparatus, not as a fighting force,
but as a political apparatus. And I think the greatest
feature of this talking to is going to be the
ability of Hegseth and Trump to begin to identify where
(02:30):
are the weak spots, where's the political adversaries within the
US military that they're going to have to deal with,
Because presently, just from my own contacts within the Pentagon
folks that I've dealt with and worked with over the years.
One of the problems that Hegseth is having is that
none of them. The greatest opposition for Hegseth is in
that area of the assigned military. These DEI operatives who
(02:54):
don't look at Hegseth as a legitimate leader of the Pentagon.
They don't see the military sperience as being that visceral.
They don't see they seem more as a ne Anderthal
than as a political or than as a leader of
a force. This is a huge problem for President Trump.
But more importantly, I think it needs to be made
clear that not all former Secretary of Defenses of Defense
(03:17):
have had military experience. Now, of course hessef does have
pretty dramatic experience, But I think that the key point
to take away from that presentation is that Trump is
finding a battle within his own administration, particularly is to
the question of legitimacy of excess as a leader. Number one.
Number two, that the political adversaries that have been baked
(03:38):
in that this deep state mantra are still heavily populated
within the Pentagon and they need to be excised. They
need to be identified and then so that they can.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Excise them, no doubt, Curtis Greco with the Imperfect Messenger
foundation is with us moving off of that subject, but
to one that is much related. I think this week
Trump came out with a peace plan for the Middle
East that basically involved all the nations in that area
of the world plus Europe signing onto this deal where
(04:10):
there will be a slow withdrawal of the Israelis and
the Amassl sign onto this and then if they don't,
we're going to let Israel do what they want to do.
Was the basic gist of it. Curtis, give me your
analysis of that plan.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
In classic Trump form, I think is he is going
to go down in history as a remarkable, remarkable talent
in navigating a way around and passed the articles and
obstacles that have plagued international politics for the last century
at least. The British issue that goes back all the
(04:48):
way to volvefour agreement, and I think it was nineteen
seventeen when it was originally signed, has planted the British
in the British hierarchy, which became more dominant with the
advent of MI six and their intelligence environment where the
British basically created a permanent legacy of failure. And the
(05:09):
reason why was because as long as there's conflict, as
long as there is demand for participation outside of the
immediate conflict, there's always a need for somebody a military influence,
someone who has an economic interest in the area. In
the case the case with Trump, what's brilliant about his
approach is is he went out and he created the
(05:31):
solution before ever presenting it to the Israelis, before ever
presenting it to Hamas. So if you recall his trip
into the Middle East where he met with the royal
family of Saudi Arabia, he ret with them, and he's
they read with Katar, he met with the Jordanian King
of Jordan, and the purpose of all of those meetings
(05:53):
was to shore up an assurance with Trump and these
leaders that they were going to work together to solve
the problem with the issue regarding palacinies, with the issue
regarding Gaza and the Israelis, and how to create a
permanent solution. So while everyone's sitting out wondering whether or
not there is going to be success in the Middle East,
they're looking for some sort of panic on the from
(06:14):
the Trump administration because things don't seem to be going
the way he wants. But Trump is very patiently, very methodical,
and I think that's the brilliant approach. Why. I think
that if any administration over the last sixty years, all
the way back to the Johnson administration and the sixty
seven year war in nineteen six seven war, I think
(06:35):
this has got to be the most significant move of
any administration or any move by any political needs to
create a permanent solution. And I think Trump is going
to go down as as probably the master of providing
the solution that I believe they're going to execute.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Curtis's final thing to talk about, of course, another shutdown
the president and it said, we may just take advantage
of the shutdown to basically gut some more government agencies
and get rid of some overpaid, useless government employees, sort
of a Doge two point zero? Do you think that
can happen? And who do you think comes out the
(07:15):
pr winner when this shutdown is all said and done, well.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
As long as the Trump administration maintains the capacity of
the government to continue to serve those who depend on
the government, whether it's military pay, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
all of these things continue on. They're already baked into
the monetary demands of the federal government. So when they
talk about shutdown, it's more politically severe for the loser
(07:42):
than it is for the American public. And it's always
been that way. So to answer your question, the ones
that are going to get nailed on this, it's going
to be the Democrats, and ultimately, probably by the end
of the week, you're going to see they only need
three more votes, right, They only need three more Democrats
to jump ship under the Schumer the Schumer Ship and
for them to sign off on this and have it
(08:04):
down the road. Ultimately, I think what this is going
to show is there's a severe problem with this budgeting
system that has been going on for the last thirty years,
where they cannot seem to get from one year to
the next without some sort of complicit behavior that require
it will require some sort of access. That's going to end.
And I think that that's it and Trump ultimately that's
(08:29):
going to become more and more apparent over the next
few months, and that is the solution. The Federal Reserve
is going to have to be dealt with because one
of the largest problems that is behind all of this,
I mean, there's political cannery going on with the George
Soros and those types of pagan political groups who are
forcing this sort of nonsense about paying for health care
(08:50):
for illegals and all this sort of belligerence, and that
too will come to a will eventually come to a
solution as they become more suspect, more expected by the
political apparatus that's going to chase them down. But more
importantly is that at some point the Democrat Party is
going to have to find a way to reconstitute itself
(09:11):
because if they don't, they're the likelihood of them coming
back with a political force to take back the House
or even the presidency is going to be decades in
the offering if they don't start acting like adults.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's Curtis Greco with the Imperfect Messenger Foundation, always things
to talk about. Curtis. We appreciate you taking time.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's always a pleasure to be with you.
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