July 11, 2025 • 11 mins
Meterologist Chris Martz joined Todd to debunk weather alarmism and recount his struggles against those who tried to get him thrown out of college becuase he dares to question "climate change".
You can follow Chris on X at @ChrisMartzWX
You can follow Chris on X at @ChrisMartzWX
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There are a lot of weather and climate myths out there,
and some people don't want to hear about them. Other
people like to really point them out and debunk them.
And one of those is Chris Martz. He is a meteorologist,
a recent graduate of meteorological school that had to really
fight through all the climate change bs to actually earn
(00:22):
a degree, and he is on a lot of social
media and regular general media like this talking about weather
and climate myths, and he joins us, Now, Chris, good
to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hey anytime I ran across some of your stuff on Facebook.
And lord knows, there are plenty of global warming nonsense
and climate change zelots out there to debunk. Of course,
the most recent round of malarkey coming from the floods
in Texas. This is all climate change related and such, Chris.
(00:58):
But what you're so good at pointing out is going
back into the you know, the history books. Unfortunately for
the climate zeleets, there are actual records and recordings of
weather events, and you go back and point out all
this stuff has happened before.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Right, absolutely, yeah, and n casey Texas floods is unfortunate
and as devastating as they have been. You know, we've
seen I think over seventy people have died. That number
could have climbed by now. I don't have a taxi
latest report, but the flooding itself is definitely not unprecedented
for the area. It's something that's happened repeatedly, and unfortunately
(01:38):
policymakers at the state and local level have not really
seemed to have learned from these past mistakes in terms
of the implementing policies that can prevent such a catastrophic
loss of life.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, and that area, for those that don't know, is
what it's just susceptible the large downpours. And then the
topography is the other problem.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right, Yeah, So Central Texas in the hill country there,
the geography there, the land is characterized by a thin
layer of top soil, and you have a lot of
exposed rock, hard rock formations throughout the region. And because
of those two things, rain water when it falls it
(02:23):
doesn't absorb into the ground readily, so it runs off
into trickles down through it triples down into the mountain,
into the sorry, into the creeks and the rivers and
the draw us there, and it leads to catastrophic flooding,
and in fact, we've seen a long history of flooding
on the Guadalupe River. We can go back to eighteen
(02:43):
sixty nine. That was actually the record high crest of
fifty three fifty three feet August third that year in
Spring Branch, and this year I got to twenty nine
point three three feet at that particular station we had
this July first, eighteen sixty nine. It is about a
month before that at the tied the rat side of
the river gage station in Comfort, Texas, it crested at
(03:06):
forty two point three feet, and that year, but this
year crested at thirty four point seven six feet. In
other places, we could go back to nineteen thirty two.
The rainfall itself is also not unpresced edented back in
nineteen thirty two, Mountain Home, Texas recorded thirty two point
four inches of rain in eighteen hours, and this year
the highest of I could find is a little bit
(03:27):
over twenty one inches in twenty four hours. And of course,
in September nineteen twenty one, locals might know that downtown
San Antonio was flooded, was inundated beneath two to twelve
feet of flood waters. That's because of all the rain
that fell during the remnants of a hurricane that they
landfall in Mexico very similar setup, thirty eight point two
inches of rainfall in twenty four hours and through all
(03:48):
Texas in twenty three point four inches of that fell
in just six hours. So this kind of event is
not something that is unprecedented. It certainly can be rare,
but it has and at least a dozen times over
the last two hundred years.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We're talking about meteorological meteorologists. To Chris Mart, you can
follow him on Facebook and you can check out his
handle on X It's Chris Mart's w X. And that's
what you're so good at, Chris, because every summer, you know,
it gets hot and people start staying, oh my god,
it's never been this hot this many consecutive days, and this,
(04:25):
that and the other, and then you go back to
the record book and go, actually, right, that's what you're
good at.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, usually occasionally there are sometimes
weather events that are unprecedented, you know, in the sense
of our historical records. Let's go back one hundred and
fifty years, maybe hundred and seventy five at you know,
a few sparse locations. But people need to remember that
the Earth is four and a half million years old,
and you know, we've only been keeping records for very very,
(04:55):
very very small percentage of that time. And usually when
people make the claim that and it has unprecedented, a
lot of times it turns out not to be true.
People just seem to think that they have it in
their head that the history began and the year they
were born, so if something hadn't happened in their lifetimes,
oh that they go, this has never happened before. But
in reality, you don't have to go back fifty or
(05:15):
sixty years or one hundred years, but chances are there
have been similar, if not more, extreme weather events.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
In the past. Chris, you recently just this week posted
an op ed in the Washington Free Beacon talking about
the struggles you had trying to become a meteorologist because
you didn't tow the man made climate change line. It
didn't prey from the same climate change holy book. If
you could encapsulate a little bit of how you had
(05:44):
to really fight the system to just become a meteorologist, well.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know, a lot of people mischaracterize my position on this.
On the climate alarmist side, they will label anybody that.
They will label anybody who doesn't think that we are
facing an existential crisis that is detrimental to life on
Earth and humanity. They label anybody who doesn't think that
(06:12):
as a denier. Even if you accept, you know, the
basic fact that there is probably at least some anthropogenic
or a mandate component to the fact to the global
warming aspect of the climate change issue, and generally I
agree that all else being equally, if you add more
CO two into the atmosphere, that should cause some warming.
(06:36):
And that's because carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that
it generates dipole moments due to its asymmetrical structure and
its chemical composition and how that interacts with photons of
thenfrared radiation. So all else being equal to what everything
else constant, yet more of an atmosphere it should cause
some warming. However, the warming that it results from it
(06:56):
is relatively weak. It told me about a one to
one and a half half percent enhancement of Earth's natural
greenhouse effect, and that creates a slight energy imbalance. The
problem is is that scienceists just assume that all the
warming has been man made since say eighteen fifty, because
they assumed that the earth energy balance, that there was
(07:17):
no earth atmosphere energy imbalance prior to when industrialization came along.
They just assume that the natural energy flows were imbalanced.
But that's not likely the case because of the climate
is always changing, so that's a false assumption. And also
we do not know the energy imbalance caused by the
radiation rated forcing of CO two. The uncertainty on the
(07:42):
energy imbalance, there's a larger, sorry, there's a larger uncertaincy
on the natural energy flows going in and out of
the climate system on an annual average basis, and there
is from the energy imbalance caused by CO two, which
means that most of a warming, especially since nineteen fifty,
which is when emissions really began to take off, most
(08:04):
of it could be natural and scientists would never really know,
or it could be mostly a man made and we
wouldn't know either. The other thing is is that the
coefficients used to deduce to ascribe natural versus anthropogenic forcing
when the climate system are done using computer models, not
physical measurements, so a lot of that is circular reasoning
and stuff. So that position of mine is very scientifically defensible.
(08:26):
I acknowledge that, Yeah, the physics makes sense behind it,
but it's a lot more complex than that. But that
puts me in the denier camp. And also criticizing the
censorship and behavior of certain academics that have you know,
we look back to the climate emails that release in
twenty nine and twenty eleven and how they stifled other researchers,
on orthodox researchers from publishing their papers or getting them
(08:49):
included in the United Nations IPCC reports. So if you
criticize that behavior, we're also lumped into the denier camp
and that's unfair. But the more of that my Twitter page,
facebook page became popular, the more that people got angry
about it because I started to have a you know,
reach and influence and a voice, and people on Congress
follow me, celebrities follow me, and people in the media
(09:11):
follow me. So my reach is, you know, I'm reaching
a whole bunch of influential people, changing people's minds, people
that are young like me. Because I used to be
on the alarmist bandwagon pirate of going into college, I
used to pick up the world was you know that
we did have a climate crisis, and the more I
studied the issue, the more I studied weather, the less
concerned I became. And as a result the attacks from
(09:34):
outside from anonymous accounts from other scientists in the field.
They would write emails to my university on a weekly basis,
you know, demanding that and the university provost and the
president and my professors, and they would demand that I
get kicked out of the program or that I get
course corrected so that and they said I was a
disgrace to the meteorology programming. This is almost on a
(09:54):
weekly basis. There were a phone calls, the department had
to have meetings and network. Of course, they were some
classmates too who didn't didn't like what I had to say,
although there was in my first three years more classmates
who agreed with me, but they ended up that they
of course they they were older than me and they
graduated just before I did. So my last year it
was really tough because there was not a lot of
(10:16):
like minded people left. Thankfully, all but one of my
professors had my back and defended my right to free speech.
They loved me as a student because I was come
of the class clown. I got good grades. I showed
up to class and they enjoyed having me as a student,
and they enjoyed and having good scientific debates because they're
kind of an old school, so I really appreciated that.
(10:37):
But from other people in the university, from the outside,
it was very tough. And the amount of hate mail
I get, the threats towards my career, and I've gotten
death threats from people, and that's made it very admit
it very tough, especially in senior year, especially as I
got more popular to deal with. But I was able
to navigate through in large part thanks to the handful
(10:57):
of professors who had my back.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And The New York Post called him the anti Greta Thunberg,
and that is pretty high praise for Chris Martz. So
you can follow him on various social media posts of
Facebook and Act's, most prominently Chris, great work. Keep up
the great work, and we appreciate you taking time for us.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Thanks for having me on time with a pleasure
There are a lot of weather and climate myths out there,
and some people don't want to hear about them. Other
people like to really point them out and debunk them.
And one of those is Chris Martz. He is a meteorologist,
a recent graduate of meteorological school that had to really
fight through all the climate change bs to actually earn
(00:22):
a degree, and he is on a lot of social
media and regular general media like this talking about weather
and climate myths, and he joins us, Now, Chris, good
to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Hey anytime I ran across some of your stuff on Facebook.
And lord knows, there are plenty of global warming nonsense
and climate change zelots out there to debunk. Of course,
the most recent round of malarkey coming from the floods
in Texas. This is all climate change related and such, Chris.
(00:58):
But what you're so good at pointing out is going
back into the you know, the history books. Unfortunately for
the climate zeleets, there are actual records and recordings of
weather events, and you go back and point out all
this stuff has happened before.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Right, absolutely, yeah, and n casey Texas floods is unfortunate
and as devastating as they have been. You know, we've
seen I think over seventy people have died. That number
could have climbed by now. I don't have a taxi
latest report, but the flooding itself is definitely not unprecedented
for the area. It's something that's happened repeatedly, and unfortunately
(01:38):
policymakers at the state and local level have not really
seemed to have learned from these past mistakes in terms
of the implementing policies that can prevent such a catastrophic
loss of life.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, and that area, for those that don't know, is
what it's just susceptible the large downpours. And then the
topography is the other problem.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right, Yeah, So Central Texas in the hill country there,
the geography there, the land is characterized by a thin
layer of top soil, and you have a lot of
exposed rock, hard rock formations throughout the region. And because
of those two things, rain water when it falls it
(02:23):
doesn't absorb into the ground readily, so it runs off
into trickles down through it triples down into the mountain,
into the sorry, into the creeks and the rivers and
the draw us there, and it leads to catastrophic flooding,
and in fact, we've seen a long history of flooding
on the Guadalupe River. We can go back to eighteen
(02:43):
sixty nine. That was actually the record high crest of
fifty three fifty three feet August third that year in
Spring Branch, and this year I got to twenty nine
point three three feet at that particular station we had
this July first, eighteen sixty nine. It is about a
month before that at the tied the rat side of
the river gage station in Comfort, Texas, it crested at
(03:06):
forty two point three feet, and that year, but this
year crested at thirty four point seven six feet. In
other places, we could go back to nineteen thirty two.
The rainfall itself is also not unpresced edented back in
nineteen thirty two, Mountain Home, Texas recorded thirty two point
four inches of rain in eighteen hours, and this year
the highest of I could find is a little bit
(03:27):
over twenty one inches in twenty four hours. And of course,
in September nineteen twenty one, locals might know that downtown
San Antonio was flooded, was inundated beneath two to twelve
feet of flood waters. That's because of all the rain
that fell during the remnants of a hurricane that they
landfall in Mexico very similar setup, thirty eight point two
inches of rainfall in twenty four hours and through all
(03:48):
Texas in twenty three point four inches of that fell
in just six hours. So this kind of event is
not something that is unprecedented. It certainly can be rare,
but it has and at least a dozen times over
the last two hundred years.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We're talking about meteorological meteorologists. To Chris Mart, you can
follow him on Facebook and you can check out his
handle on X It's Chris Mart's w X. And that's
what you're so good at, Chris, because every summer, you know,
it gets hot and people start staying, oh my god,
it's never been this hot this many consecutive days, and this,
(04:25):
that and the other, and then you go back to
the record book and go, actually, right, that's what you're
good at.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, usually occasionally there are sometimes
weather events that are unprecedented, you know, in the sense
of our historical records. Let's go back one hundred and
fifty years, maybe hundred and seventy five at you know,
a few sparse locations. But people need to remember that
the Earth is four and a half million years old,
and you know, we've only been keeping records for very very,
(04:55):
very very small percentage of that time. And usually when
people make the claim that and it has unprecedented, a
lot of times it turns out not to be true.
People just seem to think that they have it in
their head that the history began and the year they
were born, so if something hadn't happened in their lifetimes,
oh that they go, this has never happened before. But
in reality, you don't have to go back fifty or
(05:15):
sixty years or one hundred years, but chances are there
have been similar, if not more, extreme weather events.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
In the past. Chris, you recently just this week posted
an op ed in the Washington Free Beacon talking about
the struggles you had trying to become a meteorologist because
you didn't tow the man made climate change line. It
didn't prey from the same climate change holy book. If
you could encapsulate a little bit of how you had
(05:44):
to really fight the system to just become a meteorologist, well.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
You know, a lot of people mischaracterize my position on this.
On the climate alarmist side, they will label anybody that.
They will label anybody who doesn't think that we are
facing an existential crisis that is detrimental to life on
Earth and humanity. They label anybody who doesn't think that
(06:12):
as a denier. Even if you accept, you know, the
basic fact that there is probably at least some anthropogenic
or a mandate component to the fact to the global
warming aspect of the climate change issue, and generally I
agree that all else being equally, if you add more
CO two into the atmosphere, that should cause some warming.
(06:36):
And that's because carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that
it generates dipole moments due to its asymmetrical structure and
its chemical composition and how that interacts with photons of
thenfrared radiation. So all else being equal to what everything
else constant, yet more of an atmosphere it should cause
some warming. However, the warming that it results from it
(06:56):
is relatively weak. It told me about a one to
one and a half half percent enhancement of Earth's natural
greenhouse effect, and that creates a slight energy imbalance. The
problem is is that scienceists just assume that all the
warming has been man made since say eighteen fifty, because
they assumed that the earth energy balance, that there was
(07:17):
no earth atmosphere energy imbalance prior to when industrialization came along.
They just assume that the natural energy flows were imbalanced.
But that's not likely the case because of the climate
is always changing, so that's a false assumption. And also
we do not know the energy imbalance caused by the
radiation rated forcing of CO two. The uncertainty on the
(07:42):
energy imbalance, there's a larger, sorry, there's a larger uncertaincy
on the natural energy flows going in and out of
the climate system on an annual average basis, and there
is from the energy imbalance caused by CO two, which
means that most of a warming, especially since nineteen fifty,
which is when emissions really began to take off, most
(08:04):
of it could be natural and scientists would never really know,
or it could be mostly a man made and we
wouldn't know either. The other thing is is that the
coefficients used to deduce to ascribe natural versus anthropogenic forcing
when the climate system are done using computer models, not
physical measurements, so a lot of that is circular reasoning
and stuff. So that position of mine is very scientifically defensible.
(08:26):
I acknowledge that, Yeah, the physics makes sense behind it,
but it's a lot more complex than that. But that
puts me in the denier camp. And also criticizing the
censorship and behavior of certain academics that have you know,
we look back to the climate emails that release in
twenty nine and twenty eleven and how they stifled other researchers,
on orthodox researchers from publishing their papers or getting them
(08:49):
included in the United Nations IPCC reports. So if you
criticize that behavior, we're also lumped into the denier camp
and that's unfair. But the more of that my Twitter page,
facebook page became popular, the more that people got angry
about it because I started to have a you know,
reach and influence and a voice, and people on Congress
follow me, celebrities follow me, and people in the media
(09:11):
follow me. So my reach is, you know, I'm reaching
a whole bunch of influential people, changing people's minds, people
that are young like me. Because I used to be
on the alarmist bandwagon pirate of going into college, I
used to pick up the world was you know that
we did have a climate crisis, and the more I
studied the issue, the more I studied weather, the less
concerned I became. And as a result the attacks from
(09:34):
outside from anonymous accounts from other scientists in the field.
They would write emails to my university on a weekly basis,
you know, demanding that and the university provost and the
president and my professors, and they would demand that I
get kicked out of the program or that I get
course corrected so that and they said I was a
disgrace to the meteorology programming. This is almost on a
(09:54):
weekly basis. There were a phone calls, the department had
to have meetings and network. Of course, they were some
classmates too who didn't didn't like what I had to say,
although there was in my first three years more classmates
who agreed with me, but they ended up that they
of course they they were older than me and they
graduated just before I did. So my last year it
was really tough because there was not a lot of
(10:16):
like minded people left. Thankfully, all but one of my
professors had my back and defended my right to free speech.
They loved me as a student because I was come
of the class clown. I got good grades. I showed
up to class and they enjoyed having me as a student,
and they enjoyed and having good scientific debates because they're
kind of an old school, so I really appreciated that.
(10:37):
But from other people in the university, from the outside,
it was very tough. And the amount of hate mail
I get, the threats towards my career, and I've gotten
death threats from people, and that's made it very admit
it very tough, especially in senior year, especially as I
got more popular to deal with. But I was able
to navigate through in large part thanks to the handful
(10:57):
of professors who had my back.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And The New York Post called him the anti Greta Thunberg,
and that is pretty high praise for Chris Martz. So
you can follow him on various social media posts of
Facebook and Act's, most prominently Chris, great work. Keep up
the great work, and we appreciate you taking time for us.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Thanks for having me on time with a pleasure
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