May 8, 2025 • 8 mins
Caroline Kepnes called into the Billy & Lisa Show before the book club event her and Lisa had in Hartford, Connecticut! They talked about the new season of the show You, based on Caroline's best-selling book. She also shared some secret news about a new book she has been working on!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Welcome to Lisa's book Club, a podcast where I
interview best selling authors from the New England area, pulling
back the curtain on what it's really like being a
best selling author. They're guilty pleasures, latest projects, and so
much more. Welcome into Lisa's book Club podcast. We have
a special one for you. Caroline Kepnus, the creator of You.
She's a Massachusetts native. She also did the Lisa's book
(00:26):
Club on the Road in Hartford with us this week,
and when she was on the show with us, she
broke some you news.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We have the creator of you. Caroline Keptnus on the
phone right now. Justin Carol, Caroline, and you've got your.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Own theme song on the Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
That is an intro. My goodness.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And well deserved.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So you've got a big road trip with Lisa in
the book Club tonight, right, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, the girls are hitting the road.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes, I am excited.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, we all are.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This is like our first Lisa's book Club outside of Massachusetts.
So we're heading down to Harford Kiss ninety five point
seven Courtney and Kiss in the morning, and yeah, we're
road tripping it because of the fifth and final season
of You on Netflix is.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Out a very special occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I gotta tell you, Caroline, I have been binge watching
the final season. I got to congratulate you. You are
one of the best writers I have ever experienced. As
I'm watching the show, every episode, I'm thinking, how did
she come up with this?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You are amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Taking the show are Yeah. They go to places that
are surprising and shocking me. So it's so exciting to
see it become this other universe.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So can you take us back to how you created
the Joe Goldberg character. It's such a fascinating story for
people that may not have checked out the U series yet.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah. I mean it's always like inspiration is always a
swirl of thing of Like, there was bad stuff going
on in my life in a big way, and there
were little things getting on my nerves. But I had
one of those moments in public where I felt like
a real complete hypocrite and I was living in my
head a lot, and I had also had emergency throat
surgery and had to live through a notepad, and you
(02:17):
become really aware of your interior monologue. And Joe came
from me wanting to see if I could like make
a brain on the page and make you feel like
you were living in this crazy head and how someone's
thoughts can sort of affect the world.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So Joe became He's a lovable serial killer. Did you
have a say in who was cast as Joe?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
When I got that video, they were like very hot
on Pen and I got the video and I can
remember where I was in the chills of like, yes,
this is it. Yeah, And I think we all know
now years later, yes this was the right choice.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And Penn is an executive producer right on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
As well, Yes he is. Yes, I have to ask you.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Caroline, who's the actress that play He's the twins in
the current season, the final season of you.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh Anna Camp.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yes, she's fabulous. Oh my god, she's got some crazy scenes.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And that's one of those full circle things I love,
like with you, Like i'd watched Pitch Perfect, I like
after I lost my father. That was the movie that
like kind of got me off the couch a little
bit and I just loved it. And so I feel
like I've known her because of watching that movie so
many times. So I love when life works that way,
especially in like pop culture, Like there she is in
(03:30):
season five of You, I'm like, couldn't be better?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, we were talking about all of the actors and
actresses that have been in all five seasons, like John Stamos,
like Jenna or Taga.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Out of nowhere in this season one of the ranch
hands from Yellowstone had a cameo and I'm like, hell
did happen?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And then the girl who plays Bronte is in Handmaid's tand.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah it's yeah. I mean it's casting over the
years has been amazing and to see people blow up
like miss Orte go like, it's just been so much
fun of like part of the ride.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes, So a character like Joe must haunt you, right,
So do you have any news on it? Is there
going to be another? Is there going to be an
extension of You?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yes? I have been squirreled away working on a sort
of trips back into young Joe that has been very
exciting because it is a hard character to let go of,
and I wanted to see him in a different time
of his life and also go back to like the
early two thousands. So, yes, there is more You on
the way.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
This is breaking news.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, So I'm guessing he must have been working in
the bookstore at the time as a kid, because didn't
he start there.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And that's correct. Yes, it's sort of like going back
to his adolescence and when there's a little bit of
innocence still in there. And I don't like to talk
a lot about things before i'm like fully done with them.
But I love this book. I mean it's New York
two thousand and two, so it's just a very special time.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This is a special night because this is the first
Lisa's book club that takes us over the borders to
another state, right.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And I want to thank ninety plus sellers because they
really you got this ball rolling. And then Caroline jumped
on and.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
She's like, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And I'm just I always love how easy you are
to work with and how you're so cool about jumping
in and doing new things. So I want to thank
you for taking this road trip with us to Hartford.
And I think it's going to be a really special night.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'm so excited. I love to see a book club
grow like this, and it's always all do anything with
you anytime, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And look think about this way in the car with Lisa,
you could do some writing come up with some I
did I see what I'm close to the end of
the season five, I think it is. Did I see
one of the cast members from Saturday Night Live pop
into the show?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Ooh?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Like possibly?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think she was a.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
TV reporter or interviewer that was interviewing Goldberg and I said.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Wait a minute, she's from Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's like you get sucked into something but you almost
want to pause and then go online, but you don't
want to pause because you want to keep going.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, it's such a good show. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, well this was amazing. So you fans out there,
there's going to be a prequel.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's big news. Big news? Is that breaking news?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think we just broke I think we just broke
something pretty big here.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Wow. So what else is going on at the event tonight? Least?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So we have so Caroline knows this. We are teaming
up with our sister station Kiss ninety five seven Courtney
in the Morning with Savannah, so it'll be the four
of us on stage sort of, you know, asking you
questions and talking about your writing process and what's been
going on. But it's so cool that you are from Massachusetts, like,
(06:48):
that's amazing at Leasta's book that we always focus on
writers that have a New England connection and may people
maybe don't know that Caroline is from here. So yeah, yeah,
so it's really great.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
A lot of time on Nintuk party, a.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Lot of time on the cave right In.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
A few years ago, I was on Nantucket and I
met Caroline Kepnis at Cisco Breweries and it was the
coolest thing ever. She was talking about how she was
there for either like a book signing or a trip
or I totally forget what, but she had hinted at
what kind of books she right, and I had just
finished the book You. So I look at her, I go, wait,
(07:24):
are you Caroline Keptness and she goes, oh my god.
I have never heard a random stranger just say my
name like that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
That is so cool.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So yeah, the best readers in the world. And I
love it because I will always think, now when this happens,
that something's wrong, that I did something wrong that or
I have finished in my teeth. And when there it
turns out they know that I write you, I'm like, okay,
we're good. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So big night tonight, it's too late to get in right.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You can go on the On the Kiss ninety five
point seven website and you can register. We're we'll be
at the Farmington Gardens, that beautiful event facilities. So if
you want to come, you can come.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Short trip to Hartford. Road trip Caroline.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yep, get the tunes on.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
We love Caroline. We can't wait for the book.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The Prequel to You to come out in twenty twenty
six and she will come back and do Lisa's Book
Club again. We can't wait. Hope you enjoy it and
don't forget. We have a special Lisa's book Club podcast
on Saturdays. It's called The Bonus Chapter with producer Riley.
Check that out too,
Hey, Welcome to Lisa's book Club, a podcast where I
interview best selling authors from the New England area, pulling
back the curtain on what it's really like being a
best selling author. They're guilty pleasures, latest projects, and so
much more. Welcome into Lisa's book Club podcast. We have
a special one for you. Caroline Kepnus, the creator of You.
She's a Massachusetts native. She also did the Lisa's book
(00:26):
Club on the Road in Hartford with us this week,
and when she was on the show with us, she
broke some you news.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We have the creator of you. Caroline Keptnus on the
phone right now. Justin Carol, Caroline, and you've got your.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Own theme song on the Billy and Lisa Morning Show.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
That is an intro. My goodness.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And well deserved.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So you've got a big road trip with Lisa in
the book Club tonight, right, Lisa.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, the girls are hitting the road.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes, I am excited.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, we all are.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This is like our first Lisa's book Club outside of Massachusetts.
So we're heading down to Harford Kiss ninety five point
seven Courtney and Kiss in the morning, and yeah, we're
road tripping it because of the fifth and final season
of You on Netflix is.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Out a very special occasion.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I gotta tell you, Caroline, I have been binge watching
the final season. I got to congratulate you. You are
one of the best writers I have ever experienced. As
I'm watching the show, every episode, I'm thinking, how did
she come up with this?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You are amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Taking the show are Yeah. They go to places that
are surprising and shocking me. So it's so exciting to
see it become this other universe.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So can you take us back to how you created
the Joe Goldberg character. It's such a fascinating story for
people that may not have checked out the U series yet.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah. I mean it's always like inspiration is always a
swirl of thing of Like, there was bad stuff going
on in my life in a big way, and there
were little things getting on my nerves. But I had
one of those moments in public where I felt like
a real complete hypocrite and I was living in my
head a lot, and I had also had emergency throat
surgery and had to live through a notepad, and you
(02:17):
become really aware of your interior monologue. And Joe came
from me wanting to see if I could like make
a brain on the page and make you feel like
you were living in this crazy head and how someone's
thoughts can sort of affect the world.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So Joe became He's a lovable serial killer. Did you
have a say in who was cast as Joe?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
When I got that video, they were like very hot
on Pen and I got the video and I can
remember where I was in the chills of like, yes,
this is it. Yeah, And I think we all know
now years later, yes this was the right choice.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And Penn is an executive producer right on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
As well, Yes he is. Yes, I have to ask you.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Caroline, who's the actress that play He's the twins in
the current season, the final season of you.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh Anna Camp.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yes, she's fabulous. Oh my god, she's got some crazy scenes.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And that's one of those full circle things I love,
like with you, Like i'd watched Pitch Perfect, I like
after I lost my father. That was the movie that
like kind of got me off the couch a little
bit and I just loved it. And so I feel
like I've known her because of watching that movie so
many times. So I love when life works that way,
especially in like pop culture, Like there she is in
(03:30):
season five of You, I'm like, couldn't be better?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, we were talking about all of the actors and
actresses that have been in all five seasons, like John Stamos,
like Jenna or Taga.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Out of nowhere in this season one of the ranch
hands from Yellowstone had a cameo and I'm like, hell
did happen?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And then the girl who plays Bronte is in Handmaid's tand.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah it's yeah. I mean it's casting over the
years has been amazing and to see people blow up
like miss Orte go like, it's just been so much
fun of like part of the ride.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yes, So a character like Joe must haunt you, right,
So do you have any news on it? Is there
going to be another? Is there going to be an
extension of You?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yes? I have been squirreled away working on a sort
of trips back into young Joe that has been very
exciting because it is a hard character to let go of,
and I wanted to see him in a different time
of his life and also go back to like the
early two thousands. So, yes, there is more You on
the way.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
This is breaking news.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, So I'm guessing he must have been working in
the bookstore at the time as a kid, because didn't
he start there.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
And that's correct. Yes, it's sort of like going back
to his adolescence and when there's a little bit of
innocence still in there. And I don't like to talk
a lot about things before i'm like fully done with them.
But I love this book. I mean it's New York
two thousand and two, so it's just a very special time.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This is a special night because this is the first
Lisa's book club that takes us over the borders to
another state, right.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
And I want to thank ninety plus sellers because they
really you got this ball rolling. And then Caroline jumped
on and.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
She's like, yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And I'm just I always love how easy you are
to work with and how you're so cool about jumping
in and doing new things. So I want to thank
you for taking this road trip with us to Hartford.
And I think it's going to be a really special night.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'm so excited. I love to see a book club
grow like this, and it's always all do anything with
you anytime, yes.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And look think about this way in the car with Lisa,
you could do some writing come up with some I
did I see what I'm close to the end of
the season five, I think it is. Did I see
one of the cast members from Saturday Night Live pop
into the show?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Ooh?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Like possibly?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think she was a.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
TV reporter or interviewer that was interviewing Goldberg and I said.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Wait a minute, she's from Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's like you get sucked into something but you almost
want to pause and then go online, but you don't
want to pause because you want to keep going.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, it's such a good show. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, well this was amazing. So you fans out there,
there's going to be a prequel.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's big news. Big news? Is that breaking news?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think we just broke I think we just broke
something pretty big here.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Wow. So what else is going on at the event tonight? Least?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So we have so Caroline knows this. We are teaming
up with our sister station Kiss ninety five seven Courtney
in the Morning with Savannah, so it'll be the four
of us on stage sort of, you know, asking you
questions and talking about your writing process and what's been
going on. But it's so cool that you are from Massachusetts, like,
(06:48):
that's amazing at Leasta's book that we always focus on
writers that have a New England connection and may people
maybe don't know that Caroline is from here. So yeah, yeah,
so it's really great.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
A lot of time on Nintuk party, a.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Lot of time on the cave right In.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
A few years ago, I was on Nantucket and I
met Caroline Kepnis at Cisco Breweries and it was the
coolest thing ever. She was talking about how she was
there for either like a book signing or a trip
or I totally forget what, but she had hinted at
what kind of books she right, and I had just
finished the book You. So I look at her, I go, wait,
(07:24):
are you Caroline Keptness and she goes, oh my god.
I have never heard a random stranger just say my
name like that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
That is so cool.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
So yeah, the best readers in the world. And I
love it because I will always think, now when this happens,
that something's wrong, that I did something wrong that or
I have finished in my teeth. And when there it
turns out they know that I write you, I'm like, okay,
we're good. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So big night tonight, it's too late to get in right.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You can go on the On the Kiss ninety five
point seven website and you can register. We're we'll be
at the Farmington Gardens, that beautiful event facilities. So if
you want to come, you can come.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Short trip to Hartford. Road trip Caroline.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yep, get the tunes on.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, that was incredible.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
We love Caroline. We can't wait for the book.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The Prequel to You to come out in twenty twenty
six and she will come back and do Lisa's Book
Club again. We can't wait. Hope you enjoy it and
don't forget. We have a special Lisa's book Club podcast
on Saturdays. It's called The Bonus Chapter with producer Riley.
Check that out too,
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