Dr. Perricone At Lisa's Book Club

Lisa sat down with Dr. Perricone to discuss his book, his facelift in a fridge method and skin care. Nicholas Perricone is an American dermatologist and author, his latest book is called The Beauty Molecule.  

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, Welcome to Lisa's book Club, a podcast where I
interview best selling authors from the New England area, pulling
back the curtain on what it's really like being a
best selling author. They're guilty pleasures, latest projects, and so
much more. Hey, welcome into Lisa's book Club, a podcast,
and this week I sat down with the legendary dermatologists

(00:24):
to the stars, doctor Nicholas A. Paragone. I want to
give a little background of who we're sitting here with.
He's a renowned physician, a scientist, an educator, award winning inventor,
best selling author of The Wrinkle Cure, The Paracone Prescription,
which I read cover to cover, and his latest book

(00:47):
is The Beauty Molecule. And that's why we're here today.
So welcome doctor Paracone.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Doctor Paracone has been featured on Oprah several times. And
I saw that you guys just met up recently and
she came up to you and she's like, I'm still
using the peptides right, and credits that all to you,
Doctor Oz Rachel Ray. He's been written about in The
Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Vogue, Harper's Bizarre,

(01:16):
so many more, I can't continue. So welcome doctor Paracombe
to Lisa's book Club, and today we are going to
talk about inflammation and why you are known as the
father of inflammation, aging and that connection.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Okay, well, first of all, thank you for inviting me,
and this is an amazing group, by the way, So yes,
I'd like to just give you a little history of
what happened to. When I was in a medical school,
we had to study both looking at patients and we'd
have to look at that same disease process under the microscope.
And I was looking at a tumor or scream of

(01:55):
cell cancer and it was surrounded by inflammation. And inflammation
under the microscope looks like blue confetti because we have
to dye the tissues so we can look at it.
And then I continued with the microscope over a number
of diseases and whatever it was, there was inflammation there.
So I talked to my professor. I says, that possible
that inflammation is driving this pathology and the answer was no,

(02:16):
that's just the immune system reacting. I just didn't really
believe that, but that was how it started, and so
I kept this in mind, and then when I finished
my medical school. It was actually a great school. It
was fairly new and they had different ways of teaching.
And one of the ways you could do it is
and usually if you go to medical school, you just
have the first two years or just studying books, so

(02:39):
you take anatomy, physiology, pharmacology. But at this school, you
can take track two, which was problem based, so they
would give you a problem like chess pain and you
would study the pathology, the pharmacology, the anatomy of chess pain,
and all the reasons. And it was great because it
integrated everything. And that's what really helped me tremendously. By

(02:59):
having this integration made a lot of sense. So I
took this with me and that went on too my
pediatrics internship. And the thing that impressed me there was
that there was a study being done with children with
asthma and they gave them it was a double blind
placebo control study, and they gave them chewable vitamin C
or a placebo and those children who took the chewabil

(03:21):
vitamin C had fifty percent less asthma attacks. So I
started putting this together. So asthma is an inflammatory disease
and it causes contraction in your lungs, and vitamin C
is an antioxidant, so it gave me a kind of
a path. Okay, this looks like a path maybe antioxidants
or anti inflammatory too, So I followed that, and I
also followed the things I was seeing in medical school,

(03:44):
and I took that with me, and then when I
left my internship in pediatrics, I started dermatology, and once
again we were doing a lot of work on the
microscope and seeing patients. What interested me was that if
you have a healthy adult, even if they have no
pathology in their skin, there's inflammation. And yet young people
don't have that inflammation unless there's pathology. So I put

(04:07):
together this inflammation aging disease theory. The other thing I
had going for me. I'm very interested in nutrition. I
have a master's nutrition that was given to me by
the American College and Nutrition for my independent research. And
I said, I understand why the skin would be emplained,
but why is inflammation on the inside of our body?
What's going on? And what do we do? Maybe three
times a day or more, we have food. So I

(04:28):
started looking at patients and giving them different diets and
look at their imflammatory load, and sure enough, people are
reading a lot of junk food to carbohydrates, bad bats.
I've had higher levels of inflammation. At that time, we
were using a study called said rate with that's all
old fashion. Now we use something called sea reactive protein.
And so I put this all together and started working

(04:51):
with my patients. I found if I put my patients
on an anti inflammatory diet, I was treating them, of
course with Western medicines, but they would get better faster.
And this was almost almost the rule. If you do this,
it's going to you're probably going to not have to
use your medications in half the time. And so this
is how it was going. And I kept on working

(05:11):
on this, and then I wanted to present this to
other doctors, and so I wrote this book. The first
one I had had a tile about. It was like
a lot of doctor jargon. And the editor said, no, no,
this has to be the wrinkle Cure. And I said, well, brilliant,
I said, doesn't that trivialize the contents? I said, who cares.

(05:33):
They're going to read it and then we'll get what
they what they need to know.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And they did, and they did.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
They read it, And so I want to tell a
quick story I've written. The book was just out and
I got a call from Diane Sawyer and she said, listen,
I'm doctor Pierpon. I'm reading your book. Would you come
in and to my office and say hello? I said absolutely.
I went there, and first of all, I was so
impressed walk in this room. She's absolutely beautiful, articulate, and

(05:59):
just greatest personality ever. And she said, this is really fascinating.
I've never read anything like this before. But I have
one problem. She had this page marked and she says
this one right here says here, if you followed a
three day diet, you could look ten years younger in
three days. And I think that's hyperbole.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I said, you know, challenged you. Right, yeah she.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Did, and she said, you know, I understand that, but
I've done this with thousands of patients. And she said, okay,
we'ld be willing to take the test. I said, okay,
what are we going to do? So you're going to
come up here. Let's coming tomorrow. It'll be a Tuesday,
and you lay the foods out for the country and
then we come back on a Friday, and I'm choosing
three women from ABC and we're going to put them
on the diet and if it doesn't work, I'm going

(06:42):
to roast you in front of the entire nation.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So what happened?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I said, well, let's go for it. I said, however,
one thing, as long as they don't cheat. So it
was so Friday came along and it was not at
the studio. It was in this big park behind the
library and Fifth Avenue. And I got there and there
was a trailer and Diane was up there getting her
makeup down in her hair. I walked in. She was
in a great mood. Good morning, doctor Pigan. What a

(07:08):
beautiful day we have here and it's sunny out and
I said, yes, it's a beautiful day. She said, well,
you're ready to be roasted. So I said, if if
they didn't cheat, there'll be no roasting today. So we
stepped out of the trailer. We walked and she just freezes.
I thought something had happened. What's the matter. And she's
looking and these women were about thirty yards away and said,

(07:28):
oh my god, I could see a difference from here.
And I said, thank you God.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So we went on the air and they did it
before and after us, and it was phenomenal. And the
women talked about how they just felt different. They said,
first of all, they lost six to seven pounds. Now
you don't lose six or seven pounds of fat, you're
losing all water because we retain water when we have inflammation.
And so what happens is your skin becomes very radiant,
and all of a sudden, now you have higher cheek bones,
your trawl lines very crisp, and you also elevate your

(07:57):
mood because Neuer transmitters are working. And so it was great.
And by the time I left that and walked back
to my hotel, the wrinkle cure was number one for
the next twenty five weeks, right, And you could not
find a piece of salmon or blueberries.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
In the country. So that's why you're the godfather of
the inflammation here.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's it. And so I just want to clarify something too.
There was another scientists who has talked about inflammaging, but
he was talking about inflammation that goes with aging. My
difference is inflammation goes with your lifestyle and what you're eating.
And there's a big difference because there's not much we
can do about the aging process, but we can slow
it down if we reduce inflammation.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Can you actually tell us what the three day nutritional facelift?
What is it? What does it include?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, so what you want to do is, first of all,
you want to carefully regulate blood sugar. If you don't
regulate blood sugar, and when that goes up, then you
have an instant response, and then there's a cascade of
inflammation that goes on in every selling your body for
three days. So everything I chose is something that's low
on the glycemic index. In others it's not going to
give you an instant response. But also had a lot

(09:05):
of nutrients, so you have to have adequate protein. You
have to have essential fatty acids, and where you get
that from salmon, it's just a miracle. And then of
course you want fresh fruits and vegetables, lots of colors
in your salad because you have polyphenols anti inflammatories. And
if you just do this, if you don't cheat, it's miraculous.
I mean it's just.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You feel how much water are you drinking?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I'm asking you to drink eight eight ounce glasses of
water a day, but now I'm saying hydrogen water. But
you can do it twice a day. And I trump
found that because I was I was so successful because
what I did when I got into my practice, I said, well,
inflammations in the skin. So I wanted to create skin
care products that had anti inflammatories, and that was easy

(09:46):
because Yale taught me that vitamin C was one of them,
but also any antoxidant. So I looked at a whole
spectrum of antoxints. Think you've never heard of alphalopoic acid
and scuoreb will pomitate and started working with these various formulas.
I had a great partner at that time, and he
would do anything I told him to do, and he
was very good at it. And so I've sent those
out there, and sure enough, by turning off inflammation, everything changed.

(10:10):
And some other things I learned in med school too.
When I was doing my psychiatric rotation, I noticed that
people who were taking psych meds their skin looked better.
I realized back when I took my embryology course that
we were all derived from three different layers of tissue,
and the skin and the brain come from the same level.
So I said, that's the connections, the brain beauty connection.
So anything that had activity in the brain. So I

(10:33):
started using something called DMAE TI methlamino ethanol. It was
a supplement for people, but it was used for attention deficit,
but then it was taken off as a prescription. It
was benign and I started using that topically and the
things I saw were amazing. So all these little things
that you get between the microscope and the book learning,
and you put these things together, it gives you a

(10:55):
way of coming up with things. So the diet's important
of the anti inflammatory products were very important. And of
course we have to have lifestyle, but it doesn't have
to do you have to do crazy things. Anybody sent
a jym doing an hour and twenty minute workout. It's
just stress and it raises stress hormones. So twenty or
thirty minutes, three or four times a week is fine.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Can I ask Can I ask you a question? I
would interject when I mean, you were talking about this
twenty years ago. And then Tom Brady, who we all know,
developed the TV twelve method, and he was talking about
inflammation in the body. He was more geared towards athletes,
but he was marketing it. It was basically your program.

(11:36):
I mean, what was your thoughts on that? When he
started talking about inflammation.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well, I'm really happy that this happened because it was
such a bad time for me when I came out
with my book. The medical doctors were furious with me,
the academics were furious with me, and the only people
that really got it was the average reader. And so
when you have a certain form of education, you feel
you know it all and your mind is closed. And

(12:02):
so that's what happened, and it was very difficult for
me and constant harassment and whatever I did. So it's
nice to see someone like Tom Brady now picking it
up and so it's universal now and everybody now believes this.
But it took twenty five years. And what bothered me
about that is when you come up with something that's
very important when it talks about health and of course

(12:24):
life extension and so it's life and death to have
the naysayers it takes an extra decade or two decades
to get there, and how many people have suffered in
that time. So we can't allow that to happen. And
it's happening to me again because I have a great
interest in physics and because I'm like, I'm a scientist,
and physics is well wrong, and they know they're at
a dead end. And I submit the journal articles and

(12:47):
they're rejected in a matter of twenty four hours because
I have the same kind of closed minds only but
they're not nice rejections. The very first one I did,
which was in the most prestigious physics journal in the world,
the senior editor sent it back in twenty four hours,
and so I send him an email thank you for
doing this so quickly, so I can submit this to
another journal. And then that's what you do. And I said, however,

(13:11):
if you have anything you read about that, may me
tell me about what I can do differently. Maybe get
this cross. Now, this is a senior editor in a
prestigious physical and this is what he had to say
to me to help me. The title offended me, the
content offend me, and you offend me. So I'm right
back where I was twenty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Can I ask you a question about inflammation? How all
of us here probably have inflammation. How do you know
that you have inflammation? Other than maybe looking at your
face and saying, oh, my face looks puffy today, how
do you know that you have it?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I think that's a great question, of course, So one
of the things I had to help people understand is
when I talked about inflammation, it's not covert. It's not
like a sunburn or or a swollen finger. You don't
feel it, you don't see it, but it's going on
all the time, and it's breaking down the cells. And
so the only way you're going to know this is
a go on the three day diet and you'll feel

(14:11):
the difference, and you'll look at the difference. And what
I like about being a dermatologist is the skin is
a perfect barometer of what's going on inside of us.
So when I do something for my patients, they can
see a difference and they're very happy. If you're an
internal medicine doctor, you're doing very important things getting blood
pressure down so you don't have a stroke, but you
don't see it. So using the skin as a barometer
when you take this, when you do this diet, you

(14:33):
can have such radiance. I've done this over and over
again in every television program in the world, and you
look like there's a lamp inside your head. You're glowing,
and your mood is great because your newer transmitters are
working better, and so you'll know what that is, and
you'll be able to detect when you get off the program.
And once again, moderate exercise is important. We need to
get enough sleep, and that's very difficult for many of

(14:55):
us because we're busy and we're but when you do
this diet, it really does help you get what.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So, salmon, salmon, salmon, salmon, salmon, that's what you're saying. Well, now,
what if you don't like salmon? Okay, Now, I'm just
saying because it's I mean, this is salmon is a
key component in your diet. It is I personally, I
don't really like salmon. I mean I'll eat salmon with sushi,
you know, I'll have sushi, but I really don't like salmon.

(15:23):
So for the people out there, what would you suggest?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Okay, So what you need to have is high quality,
adequate protein. And salmon isn't the only thing. I mean,
there's many things you can do besides that. There's other
forms of fish, and you have chicken, and you know
some dairy is good. So it's just protein, essential fatty
acids and lato nutrients. And so when I'm teaching children
how to do this, they say, first of all, we're
going to look at our color quotient. Today everybody knows

(15:48):
the IQ. Right, this is a color portion. Look at yourselves,
look at your plate. You see multiple colors means there's
lots of polyphenols there. And use olive oil, extra virgin
olive oil. It's a great anti inflammatory, really simple stuff.
Protein essential, fatty assets. And that's that's what we do.
I mean makes us well. And if we follow this,
and you're not gonna follow it all the time, but

(16:09):
you'll get motivated because once you've done this, you feel
so good and then you know that, well, okay, I'll
be seeing so and so next week I want to
look my best or I've got a I've got a
special event, and my next door neighbor I don't like
the way she's looking at my husband. I'm gonna look
on really good. So it comes in handy, it really does.
And then and if there are enough events. But as

(16:29):
we get older, you have got to do some weight resistance.
That's very important. You've got to have muscle mass on you.
We have muscle mass, but as we start losing these
various hormones, so you have to do weight resistance and
not a lot, okay, and like doing some squats make
sure that because when you start losing your glutia muscles,
you can't balance right and then you start falling over.
So they're just real simple things we can do to

(16:51):
have a really long healthy life. And like I said,
you can't be doing this every day, but once I
get you addicted to feeling this way and looking that way,
you're gonna probably be pretty close to every day.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Are supplements important to a daily routine like you're talking about,
and how effective can supplements be?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's a really good question. It's highly controversial because I
have supplements in my books and twenty five years ago
they were throwing rocks at me and I threw back
empty bottles of vitamins. So this is it. Yes, there's
certain vitamins that can really help you. And so I
like vitamin C a lot. And I actually had the
pleasure and the honor of talking to Linus Bowling, Eve

(17:30):
won a Nobel proz and he took a lot of
vitamin C. So vitamin C is a great antoxidant because
it's it's non toxic. You can take If you could
take a pound of vitamin C, it would not make
you sick. You'd have diarrhea, but you would be sick.
And then there are other things too, alpha loopoic acid
and others, and you don't have to take a lot
of them. And the most important thing is you have

(17:51):
to have this a good diet. Then if you can
afford supplements, I say yes, definitely, So I mean it's
like it's an extra layer of protection. And there are
my books the one I think that are very important,
and of course the topicals of topical creams and lotions.
We have the beauty molecule in there, likeceetylcholine all we have,
and there is a number of things you can do.

(18:12):
It's strategies to elevate the beauty molecule, which is the
setylcholine and selocholine makes us think and it forms memories.
It helps us contract our muscles. And you can do
different things that will elevate that by what you eat,
certain supplements and lifestyles and meditation can also do this.
But one in when I dive into the research, I
read everything. I was so impressed by this one research

(18:36):
they gave they gave they took these little mice and
they fed them a high fat diet, a really high
fat diet, and then they took a biopsy and they
found that what happened was the mitochondria, which is a
little energy portions of ourselves very important. We're young, we
have lots of good mitochondria. When we're older, not so good.
And they actually destroyed the mitochondria by giving the high

(18:57):
fat diet and you look into the micros and so
the mitochondria supposed look like a football with little vertical lines,
and the football was all disordered and there are no lines.
Then what they did is they gave them a pharmacologic
agent that would elevate a styl coling very much like
you're going to do it by through meditation or exercise
for my food. And they were totally repaired to mitochondria.

(19:19):
And that was in four months. So I now know
that if we could even take this for this medication
if you want to. It's called peridos stigmine, and it's
very it's very benign, but in the tight, tiny amounts.
It's for people with myasthenia gravas and they need that
to make their muscles contract because the receptors are not
picking up the setyl colin. And so if you took

(19:39):
a dose of one, probably one tenth of what they
give to someone with myosthenia gravas it repairs the mitochondria.
And I worked that out looking at the animal model
and did the math, and it's just sixty miligrams a day,
or actually not even fifteen miligrams day. Take a sixteen
sixteen taile and break it in four pieces and take

(20:00):
it and if your doctor says, yes, it's not going
to hurt you, and over and over if it doesn't
go as fast as the mice because they have different metabolism,
but they did in four months. They repaired the mitochondric
would take us about a year. But it's just a
little tiny thing. And if your doctor a creases, yes,
it's all there.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Can we let's talk about the hydrogen water because you
have your online of hydrogen water. What are the benefits
of drinking it? You say, drink it in the morning.
I want to hear about why we need to be
drinking this.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well, the reason I did this I was so successful
with everything I did. I said, I wanted to find
what I call the magic bullet. I said, what substance
can I find that would meet the criteria of non toxic,
inexpensive easy, to use, and I was scouring the literature
all the time. I came across an article ten years

(20:50):
ago in a very prestigious journal called Nature Medicine, and
they talked about hydrogen water with all these benefits, mostly
animal studies, and I was very skeptic, but I said,
could this be the magic bullet? So I went on. Now,
it's really big in Japan and they've been doing it
for thirty years. I went off to Tokyo. I met
with the scientists, I met with the manufacturers, and they

(21:11):
had a good argument, but I wasn't convinced. So I
came back and talked to my partner and Peter Poole
Ace he was a genius. He should have gotten a
Nobel Prize himself. I said, well, I want to quantify
this and and they're claiming that it gives you energy,
So how can I quantify energy? So let me look.
He did some research, came back he said, I've got
some great news for you. There's one molecule in the

(21:31):
skin that fluoressa's under a certain frequency and that's and
that molecule is called NAD and that's the beauty. And
that's the molecule that creates energy NAD. You probably heard
of it. So we put together a study and it
was double blind placebo control study, and we had these
LEDs made up with the right frequency. We put them
on a little leather strap. We can put them on
the on the patient's arm and then have to drink

(21:53):
water and then look at the computer. But it was
double blind placebo control. So I'm sitting in there. I said,
it's going to be a long day. You have to drink.
The water has to go mouth p esophaga, stomach into
the bloodstream, and then it has to circulate into the
skin cells and then into the skin cell then into
the mitochondria. So this woman takes a drink and I
don't even know if she has the placebo or not.
I'm looking at the computer and it's about two and

(22:14):
a half minutes and I see this thing bouncing up
and I'm like looking at it. I says, that possible.
And at fifteen minutes she had twelve and a half
percent higher NAD and it stayed there for hours. I said,
this is real. So what I did was I said, okay,
I'm going to do this. So I went back to Japan.
I bought all the equipment. I bought a everything you need.

(22:37):
It goes into the manufacturing of these You've seen pictures
of cans going through these things and how to do
this hydrogen, and I said, this is going to do it.
And I want to tell you about one study that
really convinced me. There's a if you go to a
doctor and you have a certain grouping of symptoms and
a certain lab studies, it's called the metabolic syndrome, and

(22:57):
it means that you are you are at risk for
all the Western diseases, heart disease, cancer, neurologic decline, kidney failure,
it's a whole list. And if you go to your
doctor of metabolic syndrome, you ruins your whole day. He said,
you have to go on a diet and you have
to start exercising. So what they did was we went
to India and we found these people with metabolics and
and we said, look, we don't want you to change anything.

(23:18):
You don't have to exercise, don't change your diet, just
drink water twice a day. And what happened when we
broke the code. One hundred percent of those patients who
were not dieting or anything, no longer had metabolic cyentdrome.
That means that if we can get everybody in this
country drinking hydroen water, we can reduce the risk of
all the Western diseases. I'd say in three to five years,

(23:39):
we can drop our health care costs by maybe a
third to a half. That's a trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
How much hydrogen water per day do you have to drink?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
They only did it twice a day.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Two cans. Okay, so two cans. Now this is prepackaged.
Is there a hydrogen water tablet that you would recommend
as well?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yes, there's a tablet. You can use dropping water and
it makes hydrogen. I don't like the flavor of it
because he use magnesium and it's not something I want
to do.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
And now if that's the only option, if it's an option,
it's great.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean I take it with me. And if I
can't get hydron water like.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
This, should you drink this in the morning?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I do?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Okay, So you know in the.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Morning is great because if I wake up in the morning,
I usually have a little brain fog, and I have
a little fridge in my bedroom. I crawl over to it.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
You like Tom Brady, Tom Brady does the same thing.
He has a little fridge that is bet in his bedroom.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I do.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
And the first thing he does is he gets up
and he drinks water.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, the thing you have to do is you have
to drink it right out of the can and within
about fifteen minutes of opening, because hydrogen goes away if
you pour it in a glass or whatever, or it's
not going to work. So I down it right there. Oh.
By the way, in Japan, hidroing water is huge for
their pets, and so my little dog Daisy gets hiding
water every morning. Oh, and you have to give it

(24:55):
to him weather thirsty. So after she goes for a walk,
I make sure I pour the water right in her
bowl and drinks it right up.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Oh, this is good for pets.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
And she's looking very good, by the way.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I bet she is. So what's the biggest beauty trend
that you've seen on social media recently on TikTok or
that just makes you crazy or makes you cringe.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, I don't want to pick on anybody or one
one article. But just just this morning, I was reading
on my iPhone and they have all these popular magazines
and they were saying that that sugar has a bad
reputation and that it's not that bad, and they go
on and on, and I'm just like furious. I mean,

(25:44):
just like it's poison and it increases your risk of
every disease, including disease and go aging. So those things
kind of get me crazy. And I'm also I guess
it Quali a rebel. I'm always in trouble. And you
know that's fine. But I do believe that if we
just followed this is very simple, and I think hygen
water is really the great addition. It's just the magic

(26:07):
bullet and I will never give it up.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
So let's go through your program. It's the three day
nutritional Facelift diet and then adding those elements into your
daily routine, drinking two cans of hydrogen water, moderate exercise,
getting enough sleep, drinking eight glasses of water a day,

(26:31):
and then meditation. And you also talk about the importance
of community in your life, and I want to touch
on that it's so important because they've studied people in
other countries who are who are in beautiful, supportive communities
and their longevity is so much more.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
It is so this is critical, and relationships are everything
in life and you have to have a good support system.
So you need friends and you need family. And what's
happening on so many different levels. If you measure people's
blood pressure, it goes down. You if you start looking
at lap studies, inflammation goes down. And this is all

(27:14):
based the fact everything comes from our brain and certain
chemicals change. So the brain, the acetylcholine goes up, memories
are better, and it also your body reacts in a way.
So that's very important and you need to do so.
My father was a bit of philosopher and he said,
you know, son said, the hardest thing in life of relationships.
There's some days I can't stand myself. I said, God

(27:34):
at that. So that's I'm glad you brought that up.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
So it's in the book too. You have a whole
chapter on it about community and meditation.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
But as we age, you know it's really important you
do stretching. So what I do is I go out
in the morning and if it's a decent day, and
you take your shoes off because you want to be
de grounding. You've heard of grounding. Yeah, a lot of
electrons come up from the ground, and you do that.
I stretch for about twenty minutes. It's really amazing. And
then I'll try to do weights maybe twice or three
times a week, but sometimes I can't really get to it.

(28:06):
That's all we have to do and eat our diet
and keep the stress down and maintain your relationship.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Let's talk about skin products and the things that like,
give me the three things that we should be doing
every morning and every night because we're all busy and
you know, sometimes you don't want to wash your face
at night. But give us the just the the essentials.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Okay, so the essentials are this. If you're doing the
anti inflamatory that you're doing ninety percent of this. But
what you want to do for your skin is you
want to always use a mild cleanser, very mild cleanser,
and that I made sure of that when I put
that in my products. And you cleanse your face twice
a day, and then you put your topicals on. Why
the topicals because they're anti inflammatory. And the hardest part

(28:53):
I had to go through was finding out penetration enhancers
that will bring it into the cells but not goes
so deep that it goes into you bloodstrain. And so
by doing that that's also very very good, and of
course anything else you can do that. I think meditation.
I noticed the difference in people's complexion when they're doing
when they're doing meditation on a regular basis, they look

(29:13):
different because they're secreting a lot of acetyl colon and
the repairing mitochondria. And so it's also simple, it really is.
But just remember that as you get older, you've got
to do weight resistance. It's going to maintain bone density
and muscle mass. And then the younger people didn't get
away with just about anything, okay, but better start to
habits first earlier.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Okay, I want to bring up our spa director from
the Mandarin is Heather here. There's Heather Hannig. She's going
to join the conversation. Welcome Heather, everyone, Welcome Heather the man. So,

(30:09):
I don't know if many of you have been able
to experience the spa here, but it is really it's
the best spa in this entire region. Thank you, it
really is hi On, thank you, Nope, I'm thank you. Perfect.
There we go, thank you, and it's so perfect that
we're here with doctor Paracombe. Because the Mandarin Hotel group

(30:32):
you're about wellness your everything is aligning here. Your mission
is his mission. So you know it's the summertime and
people are traveling. And I was talking to Shannon about
this a while ago that you know you're you're kind
of out of your routine. You're not maybe you know
a teachers they're not going to work, you know, you

(30:53):
know they're they're the summer to kind of chill and
do something. So from your perspective, when you see SPA
clients come in, what types of treatments are you offering
them to kind of get them back into their routine.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Well, in the SPA world, I would say that the
most people are the massage is very approachable, right because
everyone knows massage, and so our menus are designed and
this is across a glass the globe to kind of
think of different ways that you.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Can offer a massage.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
We have inner Strength, We have forest therapy, which does grounding. Also,
we start with the meditation, we actually add the mud
to the feet to ground. We end with a scout massage.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
And so you are in a different world type of way.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
And so to watch people walk in, usually people walk
in they're stressed out and they're just oh, they're tight
and then we see them go through the transformation and
they walk out just floating, and we see that constantly.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
So we have Is there something specifically for inflammation of
the body, Yes, we have. We actually have a we
work with cosmetic and we do we use CBD. Also
we have a holistic renewal ritual for that. What do
you think of CBD topicals, Doctor pericn I.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Think I think in my company they're doing research on that.
Now I'll putting in. But it does have an time
inflammatory activity. And also I knew that, and so I
have patents have just been issued for CBD and THHC
and hydrogen water worldwide.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
We also, you know, our signature scrub is we use
a quintessence oil and also the hemallyan salt, so a
lot of our more mud, we really use Essence of
the Earth type of products.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
One of the things I talk about in the book
is is there's a word called hormesis. I don't know
if you ever heard that word before, but hormesis is
when you stress the cells, and a lot of hormesis
could make you sick, but what happens is the cells
get stronger, and so hormesis is anything like sauna, steam,
cold shower. It flips these switches that are very important

(33:06):
that make us healthier. So and the hormetic things are
going to find at the spot, which.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Is do you offer the cold plunge?

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Not right now, but we do have we do have
a beautiful sauna programming where we are a couple's room.
We have a Mandarin suite which we do have a sauna.
And I come coming from Minnesota and as a German Scandinavian,
we grew up with saunas in the contrast therapy, and
so I really want to bring in the sauna with

(33:33):
a cold plunge and you pull a you turn on
that cold even at the end of you every shower, turn.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It to cold quick right.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
It's so it does wake you up, it does help
our circulatory system, and that I really believe in that world.
I believe in so much of what you said. By
the way, I started my career twenty five years ago,
and I remember your book and I remember your thought
process and definitely agreeing with everything that you've been educating
on san So thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
As far as the cold plunge is there, like for women,
I've read a lot that there's a big difference between
men doing a cold plunge and women doing a cold plunge,
and do you have any thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, first of all, I'm embarrassed to say I'm such
a wimp. I can't even take a cold shower. And
I'm thinking I'm worse than anybody in this room. So
I can't. I wouldn't break this in sna God, that's great. Yeah,
I love this with a warm shower afterwards.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well yeah, yeah, I'm like you, I can't do the
cold plunge. But I've done some reading though, and that's
they I've been reading that they don't really recommend it
for women because of our physiology.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, you know, there's a study that came out of
Scandinavia and people who are doing sauna uh up to
five to seven days a week, they have a reduced
incidence of just what every disease process there is. But
what I didn't like about the study was any were
in saying if they were going into cold water afterwards,
that would be important too. Okay, so you know there's

(35:05):
if I think they're a majority of people are doing that,
so they're not putting that in a study, but it's
certainly impressive.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Do you use the infrared the masks that you see
like that at the end of the red light? Not yet,
but I am bringing that in.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
So yeah, I just started. I just joined the group
again and I'm very I'm very interested in the red
infrared light.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I talk about that in my book and it's really amazing.
Really it is, because see, red light only penetrates about
a millimeter or two and so it's good for the skin,
but it's not going to get the internal organs. But
when you go to infrared, almost the four inches of depth.
And so I met this doctor in UK, doctor Dougal,
and he was working with Alzheimer's patients. He did basic

(35:49):
studies and had he had an infrared frequency that was
exactly at ten seventy two and when people use this.
I was there in England and he showed me some
of the data. One man came in. They put him
in from the US, and he was really pretty far
to going. He was a phase. I couldn't speak, and

(36:10):
they put him on the helmet for two weeks and
he started talking and then they wrote back to him
from the US saying he was out doing errands and stuff.
So it's amazing and why we don't why we're not
doing that for everybody. I actually tried the helmet myself
and it was just amazing and made you feel like
really wow.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, and if you use that, how often do you
have to do it?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
It's only six minutes a day for the helmet anyway. Okay,
so it's not a big but I hoped they helped
you catch his once I saw all of his data.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Wo yeah, I'm interesting.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I think it will.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
So what are some other programs that you offer that
we should be doing monthly or bi monthly. Oh, we have.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
I really believe in the full the movement also, so
we have in the crystals, so we do have inner strength,
and we have an intelligent Movement service also where we
show you stretches, we show you we work on posture.
We use acupressure points to really you know, to wake
up certain parts of your body and even even around
your eyes. I mean, if you look at you know,

(37:14):
I'm a kinesiology major myself and might and then there's
the muscles around our eyes and our lips and they
get really tight. And so just to work on pressure points,
work on you know a lot of the movement. The
soft movement around the muscles in your skin. So all
of our facials, all of our massages, we really do
focus on specific areas that we know will help you

(37:39):
as you go throughout your day and when you come back.
It's just and it helps to rejuvenate you.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Do we have any questions from the audience?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Hi, Yes, okay, that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
The question was collagen.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So collagen is made up of minoacids, and you could
take the amino acids and you're absorbing very rapidly. And
also if you can, are you college and rich foods
or drinks, But you need to have the building blocks
and those are the amino acids that make up collagen.
So it's as simple and it's inexpensive if you just

(38:26):
go to minoasis.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Can you use your microphone? Yeah, doctor paracone, can you
use your microphone just so we can hear you. Do
you want to repeat that again, the collagen explanation.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Thank you. I forgot to use my homemans. By the way,
when I when I met doctor Dougal and he told
me he was doing it with mice and I went
to his lab, I expected I thought, well, how did
you get the helmet on the little mice said no,
we're not doing that, which is a big light over
the whole cage. So he was good. He didn't even
he didn't even laugh with that question.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Okay, so we're talking college in so collagen.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So you can do is you can just get you
can get powdered colligen and just add it to whatever
you want and you get a good a good amount.
Another thing too, as far as the muscles go facial.
In the book, I talk about this woman I met
actually her son was at Yale with me and he
it's called mile facial and it's not known, but they
do a lot of incredible work with plastic surgeons with children.

(39:27):
But also if you do these exercises and you have
something like sleep apne, it goes away because you tighten
everything up. So I would have sleep apnea, and I
was a little I was skeptical, but I did the exercise.
It's real. It's so easy. There's some a little string
with like a button on it and you just pull
and it takes about seven or ten minutes. And you
do that once a day. And I threw away my

(39:48):
seatpat machine forever and it's I just think it also.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Can really help in terms of your parents breaking.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
That read that part. It's amazing and she's a great lady.
I talked to her all the time and she's very
happy I put her in the book.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Another question over here, thanks man yep. What are your
thoughts doctor par Cone on topical vitamin C?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
What's the question again?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Vitamin C like topical, So vitamin C is.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Iportant because after my study I saw at Yale how
it turns off inflammation and as maddux. But vitamin C,
the vitamin C we get in our food, the natural one,
it's called the scorbic acid. It's water sliable, it doesn't
really penetrate the skin. So I came across vitamin C
esther it's called the scorabile palmitate. So it's just vitamin

(40:47):
C and then there's a palmitic acid of tail and
that makes it go right in and it's more stable,
and it also doesn't So the problem with vitamin C
is when it mixes with iron, it creates free radicals.
So there's something in the lab. If we want to
make free radicals, we put vitamin C in water with
a high iron amount. If that's a scorbic acid, it
does not happen. If you use your scrubble pomitate, that

(41:11):
does not happen. So you want to use the scrubble
palmitate on your skin, not a scorbic acid, because our
skin is loaded with iron and the older we are,
the more iron. So you're not doing yourself.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Anya.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, since I'd said, you know, the scrubble palmitate is
very it's very available. I think it's in my line.
I haven't checked it by I used one of the
first things I did.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Can I ask you a question about serums are because
you always see serums. Are serums a better way to
get the stuff you need into your skin? Or is
that just packaging or.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Well that's a good question because you can have penetration
en answers in a cream as well, But the serum
is easier used, it's more liquid, and I think it's
absorbed a little bit better. Okay, but I haven't really
done a study to see if it because my penetration
your handss are very very specific. In fact, I started
a separate company it's called Transdermal Biotechnology to get those

(42:06):
into the bloodstream because there's a bunch of peptides that
really work, but there's no way to administer them because
if you inject them, they break down and you can't
take it early because your stomach digests them. So the
transdermal is very important. I have a number of peptides.
In fact, I'm working with the military now because there's

(42:28):
several peptides I could use for soldiers. There's one called
TRH and you can't take it orally. You can't get injected,
but it stops suicidally ideation very quickly, and so I'm
trying to get them to do the study. And then
there's other other things you can do as well with
peptides and transfermal.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Do you have another question?

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Hello, So my question is about sorry ladies, menopause.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Inflammation.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I'm assuming, I think, I hope because I got a
belly now that I didn't have before.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Is that inating?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, there's things we have to do as we approach
that time because everything changes. First of all, estrogen is
an antioxidant, anti inflammatory. It also preserves brain tissue. So
I was really for people taking supplements, but then they said,
well there was a correlation between estrogen supplements and then cancer,

(43:25):
but if it was not, they were not using estrogen
the way our body produces. So if you can do that,
you work with your doctor. I really strongly think that
both men and women should be on supplements. So men
should have probably testosterone as they get older, and women
of course should maintain their estrogen levels. Also, you've got

(43:47):
to start really getting serious as you can reach a menopause,
because you've got to maintain muscle mass. There's a whole
bunch of things you can do, and we do it nutritionously, lifestyle,
and then of course anything that you can work with
with your physician as far as iplementation goes, but it
is it's a difficult thing, but it doesn't have to
be what it was. We can actually slow that down
and and and and not feel the impact.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Then the questions what are your thoughts? Okay, yeah, the
question is fish oil supplement?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Okay, yeah, I mean, uh, fish oil is good, we
need it. But when they're in capsules, I don't know
if they are if they're being oxidized, they're kind of
ransid I found one product, uh that is Norwegian fish oil,
and it's got a lemon flavor and there's no fishy burps.
And I've been doing that for years just a tea
spoon a day, and I I don't know how I

(44:42):
would get the information to you. Maybe what I'll do
is I'll put it on a website or social media.
It's right, I'm so old. I don't even know what
that is. They tell me a platform, I'm thinking of this,
But yeah, I love this stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
It's amazing, it's daring.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Any other questions in the back, Hi, I wonder are
you talking Nordic Naturals for the fish oil?

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Nordic nat Nordic Naturals for the fish oil.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
It's lemon flavored and it's a blue and white box.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I wonder, No, it's it's it's it's a brown bottle, Okay,
but it is. It is something with Scandinavian something there.
But I'll definitely get on a platform. Someone just shows
me how to do that, because I you know, I
would never go back. See my when I was growing up,
my mom would line us up. There was five of us,
and she would make us take this tablespoon of car

(45:44):
liver up. But was disgusting. This thing does not have
that flavor. But I think, you know it's just what anyone?

Speaker 4 (45:51):
Thank you? So my question there's it's a two part.
It seems like there's some controversy about collagen and if
the molecules are too big to be absorbed. So I'm
still using my molecule, my collagen powder, and I'm thinking, well,
at least it maybe hits the got, which it's very
good for, but will it help the face? And do

(46:13):
you know of any studies that reflect that? And in
terms of vitamin C, do you have an opinion of
vitamin C combined with ferulic acid?

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Okay, all right, let's talk about the collagen. Applying collagen
in your face is not going to do anything. Okay,
it can't penetrate. Now if you're taking it orally, that's
fine because you're gonna break it down and you're gonna
make those amino acids available for making more collagen in
your body. That's that simple. So I would just get

(46:44):
the I would get the amino acids percursors, what are them, separately,
and take those. But if it's set a lot of burden,
you can still just you know, take the collagen powder.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Even the vitamin see with furulic acid.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, furulic acid is also great antox and the anti inflammatory,
that's great. I actually take frulic acid orally standing up.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I'm sorry, so I asked about menopause, but this is
the smart sister.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's not a question, and I'm just letting you know.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Can I I have a question about adolescent skincare because
I know a lot of us have daughters or you know,
granddaughters or friends that have daughters, and there's been a
big trend with a lot of young girls as young
as eight and nine, ten going into Sephora or Alta
and buying all of these skin products and using them.

(47:44):
And it's a problem. Don't you think what should they
be using?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Well, eight or nine years old, I.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Mean ten, eleven, twelve. I mean this is like, that's
what it's happening all over Well, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I would say for them, you know, if they want
to do that, it's fun. I don't think it's.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Necessary in any way, yeah, at all, even some of
these like products that have a lot of acids in
them and stuff that they just don't really need.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
They don't need that, they don't. But I don't want
to be doing something. You know, if they could get
like a pure vitamin see a scrobble commic a cream,
that's not bad. I mean, do that, but yeah, they
should just back off. I mean eight or nine we
talk about being perfect.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I know, right, very true.

Speaker 6 (48:27):
Any other questions, do you find that the backlash you
received from medical communities due to having a lot more
natural and holistic approaches to inflammation control?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
So she said, some of the backlash that you've received,
is it because you are going with more of a
holistic approach.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Yeah, you know, that's a really good question. Many of
these articles you see about not taking stuff mens are
being funded by the pharma pharmaceutical companies, and then you
have the doctors who you don't have even five minutes
of nutrition classes in mid school, and so it kind
of goes it's a cascade of events. But and you know,

(49:14):
certainly there are some supplements that are totally unnecessary, but
some I think are extremely effective for us. So just
you know, read it and then if you'd always look
at we've got we've got apps now we can read,
go to Google and look at the original papers, and
then you put it into one of the large language
models like chat EPTE and say make this, you know,

(49:35):
make this for a sixth grader, and they tell you exactly,
you know, what the paper says, and then you can
make your own decisions. Informing decisions are very important.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
I have a second question. Sorry, So I'm kind of young,
but I had a hysterectomy. Dam I had so much more,
but I've gained. I had two kids back to back.
I have a two year old and a three year old,
and that was and then I went into pre menopause
and I was recommended like a compound supplement to like

(50:06):
substitute the estrogen. But I was, like, I'd done a
lot of research on it, and I'm a scientist, but
like I just didn't know, because of the cancer backlash,
whether that was like a good idea to implement besides
like doing the good fatty acids and you know, I
do the SAW and I do the three day week.
You know, I'm a busy mom and a single parent.

(50:27):
But I just didn't know whether that was like an
okay approach to imp you know, implement into my life.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah, that's that's a really important question, and it's difficult.
It's it's not a simple answer. But there are some
physicians in the writing books about using uh bioidentical and
also using a topically so subsorb through the skin. So
I would go in that direction.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Any other questions, Okay, how important is it?

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Would say multi.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Okay, if they're following your.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Diet, multi vil, yeah, should we take a multi vitamin?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, I think a multi vitamin's okay, you know, but
you have a good diet I think doing. But I
definitely would say you wanna supplement with vitamin C every day.
And and there are others too. I Vitamin D we
now know is very important to slow down the UH
cognitive decline, So vitamin D is very important. I think
men have to take zinc uh to because it's very important,

(51:33):
you know, the physiology. And so I'm not saying take
a bunch of things, but I'm look through my book
and I i'm I'm I try to keep it conservative
and what you can do. And also there's some uh
there are some physicians that just work in the area
of nutrition, and it might be worthwhile to see a

(51:54):
nutritionist that maybe just one time and talk about that
and and get really good advice. But you know, if
they're telling you to take twenty years thirty things a day,
I I don't see it.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Any other questions putting a side that's peptides that your help.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Wants what are your thoughts on the other top types.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
That are up there?

Speaker 6 (52:14):
If you got five seven A or no.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
One at Yeah. Uh, so there are some peptides that
are or are worthwhile if you have the money and
so BF one BP, I'll see one five seven is
something I do all the time, but I put it
into my transdermal rather than using a needle. There's some
others that are very very good, but you know, there's

(52:40):
no long term studies and they're expensive inso FP. No,
they're not FDA approved, they're not. But I like the
whole idea of putting things in transdermal. In fact, I
you know, if you've heard of oxytocin, okay, so oxytocin
is important. It's a it's secreted in our bodies.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Women secrete it when you're nursing your baby. It's it
happens after orgasm. And what it causes a psychological attachment.
So the the military is using it now in amongst
their troops so that you work like a uh when
a unit. And so it's interesting. So I put it
in a transgermal cream. This was like twenty years ago,

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and I was with we're having a staff beating in
the in the room and and a couple of the
women said, gee, could we we have that? She said,
we're I'm dating this guy and I really want to
have him get interested in me. I said, well, I said,
this is okay, but you have to you have to
be ethical and say this is what you're doing. But
what you have to is you apply it and then
you make sure you have basically fit, you know, eye

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to eye for about an hour and then uh, it's
a month month or a month and a half later,
and they come back whining they can't shake these guys.
And I said, did you tell them? They said no.
I said, well, good luck.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
You. So in the first of like you drive your now,
how do you have the glts something?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
There's a big thing you.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Called like the close stack, which has to be.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
TC five step and the TP five coo.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
That's what was the pop of pep tide right?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
That was the latest one. Are your thoughts on the
I just wanna say something about the uh, the new
GLPS and GPS. What was it?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
What is it called? It's called the glow the glo stack,
the glow stack. Do you suggest that we all use
the glow stack? The peptids the peptide.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Well, if you have, if you if you if you
can afford it and you're not sacrificing something else, yes,
I can.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Well how much is it? Well? I uh in the
pass what are you prosecuted yourself?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Going to wads?

Speaker 6 (54:43):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
So well, okay, okay, So what's the range?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Okay? I have a physician that also provides peptides and
asking me what you want, and I order from him
and especially do it on the supervision.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
But there are some peptides are oh well some peptide okay,
some s some peptide. I think they're very they're worthwhile.
And uh but I think you know, you have to
be supervised. Okay, someone's gotta be doing it.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
And how much what's the range and price for something
like this?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Well, I I get it from my physician and he'll
order it for me. And it's some in what I'm taking,
it's you know, it's pretty expensive at the end of
the day. It's probably about three or four hundred dollars
a month.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Okay, what do you feel like?

Speaker 3 (55:26):
The loss that they are?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
But you know, but the but the the weight loss drugs,
the mandros, and what I found was they were probably
the best anti inflammatories that ever been created. So I
wrote a letter to Eli Lilly two years ago and said, start,
I said, talked to the FDA and staructure patents because
this is going to slow down or mitigate Alzheimer's. It's

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gonna be reduced, reduce heart disease. And and I'm looking
at the data now. They do have all the patents now,
and uh, you reduced incidents of breast cancer by a
third to a half already just by doing these drugs.
But I think they should be in transnormal so you
don't have to stick to state end every week.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Do you think you'll be creating a supplement for the BPC.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Well, I have, yeah, I have taken you know, I
have all the technology. I just have to slur it
out with my thing and then get moving on this
because it's you can mix a number of them in
one and you just it's not a patch just by
a little cream right here. It's going and it circulates
and passes.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
That's a much faster than an injections. We have time
for one more question in the back. Okay, hormonal acne.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Okay, so yes, I mean it's it's real. But I
also want to talk about acne because I was uh
when I was doing the anti inflammatory diet and putting
patients on it, I noticed that if they had an
acne problem, it went away. And so if you eat
the anti inflmatary diet is going to reduce the incident.
So get strict around the time a month where it

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tends to break out and it'll make a big difference
because it's just inflammation. But it's interesting to know that
people have to know this that I mean when I
was doing the study with the acne thing. This is
after I did a lot of studies with anti aging
and it made me look at people. So it's so
effective that it is the answer. And instead of if

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you're sending the kids to the dermatologist and they're getting
on oral antibiotics and two or three or four tapicals,
if they could do the anti inflammatory diet. Even cystic
acne got better with the diet, so it might and
plus it's an incentive for them to not just go
to the acting but be healthy. It would be great.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Well, thank you, doctor Perricone. I think this was really informative, groundbreaking.
Thank you for spending time with us. Hey coming up
this week, July twenty second. Tuesday morning, at six am,
we will open up registration for Jody Epico. The event
is August twenty eighth. Get in on this. It's a

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big night Live. Hope to see you there