June 9, 2025 • 53 mins
Ezra gets pushed in the pool and Daisy gets pushed out. Willow delivers in the Courtroom. Sasha is forced to reveal that Michael is the father. Courtroom drama and of course the action at the Metro Court Pool. Summer is around the corner in Port Charles! Sonia is a long time GH fan and she joins us this week to break it all down on Man and Soap.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Yes, Man in Soap, back again from another amazing week
of bangers where every day it feels like a Friday.
(00:28):
Every day it's.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Like a Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh my god, we got berths in the courtroom, we
got turned down proposals. Oh we got kind of weird
lolita vibes at the Metro Court. There's so much going on.
Oh it's Man and Soap the podcast. Hey it's Chris.
(00:55):
Thanks for thanks for joining us. You can catch us
on Man and Soap Podcast, Instagram, Facebook, All the good
stuff is there for you, so you can check that out.
And I've been watching johnal Hospital pretty much my whole life.
I dipped out a couple of years. And we're gonna
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be joined by a guest, a friend of mine. She's
been watching it probably just as long as me, and
she's probably got those more. He's got those in between
years that I probably I probably lost. That was playing
music and party and that's what happens. But we're gonna
bring in our probably first every guest I believe on
Man and so so we'll here. We're gonna get with
Sonya too here in just a little bit. As we
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of course, are broadcasting live from the Metro Court where
we always where all the good stuff happens. And now
we've got the pool and yeah, it's good to see.
What's up Cody. How you doing man? Yeah, thanks for
last night. Hung out with Cody last night at the
Brown Dog. Let me tell you something. That guy can go.
(02:02):
That guy can go, but he looks really good. Got
that new haircut. Yeah, hit me up later. Okay. So yeah,
we break this podcast down. It's pretty simple. We break
it down to the good, the bad, and the in between.
Don't do episodic. It's not how I do things. It's
not how we do things on here. We'll be joined
by Michael two coming up. So yeah, just have honest dialogue,
(02:24):
a cheerleader for the soap, but also keeping it real.
There's a lot of good, there's a lot of bad.
I do want to get I love we're in the
My favorite part of General Hospital is always the end
of the spring towards the summer, because you start getting
you know, the action has shifted, like from the Metro
Court now it goes to the Metro Court pool where
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all the deception and all the conniving and all of
the planning goes on right at the Metro Court pool,
we'll get the park I imagined soon as well, and
there were some great scenes this week. It all centered
Aroun found two things, of course, the custody battle, geo
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fallout and a pure soap opera moment that took place
in the courtroom and only on this can only happen
on General Hospital. So joined joining us now is our
our our guests here on Man and Soap as we
(03:27):
welcome Sonya to the program.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Hi there, how are you? Hello?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How are you? I? I know I tried. I tried
to give you a nice golf clap. By the way,
can I redo that? Here we go? There you go?
How's that nice? Is that a nice welcome for you?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah? Great. I'm glad to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm glad to have you because I think that you know,
you'll keep it real. You and I definitely agree on
a lot of things. We also disagree on some things,
but I do I want to give you. I want
to get to Usually I'll do the good and the
bad and the stuff in between, you know, and then
we have other topics. But I want to get to
you because you are a guest, and I am a gentleman,
and I want your takes on the good and the bad,
because you've been watching this. So how long you've been
(04:13):
watching General Hospitals on you?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Since high school? Oh my god, it's been a long time.
It's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Did you So let me ask you a question. Did you?
Did you? Did your mom? How did you? How did
you get introduced to Port Charles?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think I think just you know, when you're home
during the summer and you're watching TV, and I think
I just turned it on and then I just never stopped. Yeah,
it's kind of how every day.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, for me, it started with my mom. My mom
used to watch Another World.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Remember I used to watch Another World. Okay, I used
to watch Another World. I used to watch Days of
Our Life and then General Hospital.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I loved Another World. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
My mom loved Rachel and Mack if you remember them.
I of course, even my father would come on his
lunch and we'd all watch Another World during less That's
the bonds. It's the bond. That's so so, you know,
the bond.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You know when you're and then when it's when it stopped.
I think I started watching General Hospital, and I'd watched
Days of Our Lives, but I stopped watching Days of
Our Lives.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But at the end, at the end of the day,
we know where your heart is. It's in Port, Charles. Oh,
it's it's And that's what this podcast is about. It's
about our favorite city in upstate New York. Right Port Charles.
Let let's go so much good going on right now
and get your take on some of the bad, because
there is some bad, and I think that we're going
to agree on a lot of the bad. But here's
(05:40):
how I see it. I want to get your take
on it. When Michael first was recast, and I've always said,
Chad Duley or whatever his name is, he is just
a snoozer. He had to go. It was about time.
I've never seen a recast. First of all, to me,
this is the greatest recast in general hospital history, and
I've never seen a recast. I want your to on
this as seamless as it is with Michael, like he
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has become Michael Corinthos from the minute he walked in
at the nurse's ball and said we're going home Wiley.
His eyes, he's intense. I'm sure he's a good looking guy.
I'm sure the ladies like him. He's got personality and
his eyes. Like his eyes, he acts with his eyes.
We get more from Rory Gibson than we ever gotten
twenty years. I've always said, with this other guy, Chad,
how do you say it is a Chad Duel, Chad Duley.
(06:22):
I don't know whatever his name is, I don't know whatever.
We get more. We get more with Rory Gibson in
one week then we got in twenty years. He's so expressive.
He looks great, right, I mean, he just his his
he's genuine. He jumped right in. I said this last
week on the podcast. I don't know if he had
a chance to listen, but I said, you know, when
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Chad went into the suits and said I need to
take some time off, They're probably like, okay, oh man,
are you sure? And then when the doors shut, they're like, yes,
finally we get to get rid of this guy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Like it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Like I know they probably what's that?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I know it is.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But I like Chad. I like Chad. I thought he
was I think, I mean, he's been there for like
fifteen years. Like I thought he was a good Michael.
I thought he was good. I didn't think he was
a bad Michael. I thought he was a good Michael
and when he was gone, I was like, what.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Okay, oh they're fine, very they did great this Rory Gibson.
As soon as he walked in, I was like, oh, yeah,
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's like it's over. Like I said, if he did
a poll, the other Michael would be in single digits.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's not even closed, and they've done a bunch of
recasts lately. Lulu not a fan. She's annoy when you.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Talk about it, and that's the bad. I want to
get to that in a minute. But yeah, but I
want to focus on Michael Ian.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Don't forget Jack Brennan. I didn't like him at first.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I couldn't stand and we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, I like him.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I love the way he talks. Hello, Josh, Josh, you
have an assignment, don't screw it up. Understood, like he's
so great, Like I love the Australian guy. But it
took me a second. So and that's my point about
Michael is I genuinely do not like recasts. At first,
I hate them, but this is the only because I
thought Chad was just asleep for fifteen years and now
he's probably sleeping as we're talking. But I this actor
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in this recast has been amazing. It's seamless and I
almost I hate to say this, but the end of
Friday's episode, he and Sasha look way better together than
the other Michael Andrew and Sasha look at seeing where
they're laughing with the kids. It's like, wow, they look
like a family. They look aesthetically like I'm an optics guy,
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like I like my couples looking good. Right, like they
look good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Whoever, whoever cast.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Him right needs a raise.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And if you look at all the everybody's talking about
it too.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh my god, he is. It's like I said, he's
the shony, He's the shiny toy, like and we love
him because that's my point. He's like he's like, come
in and he's become Like I think the suits when
he went in, I think the suits just said, do
whatever the fuck you want, like we want I want
you to take over this role, and I want you
to do opposite of whatever Chad did because he was
(09:00):
he was asleep for fifteen years. You take on your role,
you do what you gotta do. And he has already
he's already ten times better. But you do what you
gotta do. We're gonna recreate Michael and this recast so
you and I can agree. This recast has just been
really epic. Yeah, it's been. It's been unbelievable. That's that's really.
(09:21):
That's the good. That's the good right now, right Like
we look forward to Michael Corinhos, like we want more
Michael Corintho scenes. The scenes with him and Jason are powerful.
You got like two alphas going the scenes with him
and Sasha. The way he held himself in court, the
guy's very expressive with his eyes. Like, we have a
Michael Corinthos now that we can build the soap around
for the next twenty years.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, I think you're absolutely right, nailed it. I totally
agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rory's great, He's just perfect. We'll bring
that dog. We'll bring that. We'll bring that there's no
there's no dogs allowed in the Metro Court. No. But
you're on the phone though, it's okay, what's your Maybe
he's that dog likes that dog likes Michael Carinthos as well.
(10:07):
I can hear it.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You see how excited. Even the dog gets excited when
we mentioned Michael Crinthos. But that's but that's really like,
that's the good right now. And the Geo storyline and
the actor there, Giovanni Motts or whatever is that he played.
He's great and he does play violin in real life,
by the way, And for people that are listening, yeah,
for people that are listening right now and they don't
know he was discovered like at the Chicago Bulls halftime
game or something.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I didn't think he was that great of an actor
until until the Nurses ball and then yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, yeah, like he's kind of coming into his own
he's got a right to be angry and there's been again. Yeah,
the scenes are phenomenal. I've been hard on brook Lynn
the last few months, and again I don't know if
that's the result of the writers just dragging out as
you know, sonya what they do these stories. My god,
(11:01):
they drag him out. I was just maybe weird. I
was just tired of the whole, the whole baby drama.
But I think Brooklyn has really delivered the goods along
with Lois in these scenes.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Right, and even when, like she told Tracy when she
was you know, the whole scenes with Tracy. I thought
Brooklyn has been really good.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, Michael and I. Michael just joined us too, and
we talked about it. How about that scene though, go back,
I mean Tracy. When Tracy is genuine and she's sincere,
she gets you in your feels, like when she found
out Geo was the great grandson. Here's your great grandfather Edward, Like,
oh my god, right, Like, how great is Tracy? And
we also need we need conniving Tracy as well, right,
(11:40):
I mean we love that. But but yeah, so these
scenes with Brooklyn and and uh Lois and I don't
know if there's a path there for forgiveness, but he's
not gonna forgive.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's just gonna take some time. They're gonna drag it out.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh for a year. Oh my god, it's gonna go forever.
John Travolta's sister will still be here. I mean, what's Gloria.
I love when she comes in the mother, the grandmother.
But you know, to me, there was a lot of
that's a lot of good that happened this week with
all these scenes, because I think every episode they've been
like bangers, Like I feel like they're all they all
(12:18):
have a Friday type feel to it.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'm gonna agree with you on that one. It's been
it's been really good. I mean, let's see how it
plays out with the They're going to drag the Geo
and the Dante and the Brooklyn for a while. That
was a couple of months, probably to the holidays. Honestly,
they're probably going to.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Drag it out to the holidays twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Five.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I wouldn't be surprised, so, Michael, from your perspective, because
Sonya and I've been watching it a long time. You're
you're you're a little over a year in What do you?
What do you? What is your impression like how the
soap has evolved since you've watched it and the recast
of Michael. You got to see the old Michael, you
(13:04):
know what, what's your kind of what's your kind of
take on all this? Do you like this new Michael
compared to the old Michael as a new fairly new
to the show? I mean, because we are all in agreement, right, He's.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Great, like it was perfectly cast.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Now, Sonia. Michael thinks Emma and Geo are the future
couple of the soap. I vehemently disagree. What's your take
on that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh, they're cute there. I wouldn't say the future couple,
but they're super We're projecting the younger generation, you know,
for the younger generation, Like, they're super cute. I like them.
I'm kind of curious to see what they're going to
do with Josh Josh Josh. Are they going to play
with that guy?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Her handle the surfer dude. We call him surfer dude.
But does he even have a name? Agents what?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't remember his name?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
What's his name? Yeah, n he looks like a Vaughan
douchey name.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I really liked her with the guy they killed off, Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We love Oh my god, Oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Agree that one killed him off.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That one well, you know, you know why they killed
him off because we brought the worst character comeback in
the history of General Hospital. If Michael is a snoozer,
lucky is Oh my god. The salary is no point.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'm not really sure why they brought him was no point.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I completely agree. I'm not a fan of uh he
we love him as a kid. It's over. You got
You're better off recasting Greg. You are better off, he's gone.
You are better off recasting Greg Vaughan in that role
because Greg Vaughan is aged really well. Lucky looks a
little he looks a little unkemped. He's like although I
(14:52):
like that because he's like me, he's a rock star.
But he was just such a snoozer. The writers really sucked.
They gave him nothing to do. His performance was really
it was just snoozer, you know. And I love the
scene and Michael, we're I think we talk about last night,
Will you marry me? I want to stay here. No,
you don't know. I really don't. I'm leaving. I mean
just a ship show.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Like like he can't he he.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Can't leave fast enough, like go. We don't like adult Lucky.
We don't like adult Lucky. Loveless. Liz is back right.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Like what are they gonna do with Liz? Now?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Go to your new man, all right, Michael. So let's
play the singles game, because there are a lot Okay,
we got a lot of singles that I want to
I want to go down. And then we're gonna get
to the bad because I think that we're all going
to agree on a unanimous bad of a certain female
character and that I don't have to give away right now,
but I think we all know who it is. But
look at the singles you just brought up a point
(15:45):
Lucky Gone, So you got you got, you got Loveless Liz,
You've got Sasha, You've got Jason, You've got Dante, You've
got you know, you've got these four major like single
single players.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Maybe Michael, Well, I do really not really, Okay, Sasha
is gonna go with Michael?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, this is what hang on you think, Sasha? Hang on?
Back up? Do you think Sasha and Michael are going
to be together?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
How do you not say that?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, they're not going to be together because because he's,
because he's, because he's he's not.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
What he talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, no, so that's not gonna happen. A there's no
chemistry there. He doesn't love her. He loves her because
she's the mother of his child. They were not together
before when he got burnt. They were never going to
be together. It was a one night stance. So get
that thought out of your head. They are not going
to be together.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, No, there's no chemistry there.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, Well, you two clearly are watching the.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Wrong So Michael, yes, they're going to be together. They
put together.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well okay, now hang on, I'm not gonna walk back,
but it's it's I If anything does bring them together,
it will be the baby, right, I mean, it will
be Daisy. Although I still say I still think, I
still think that scene with Michael and Willow at the
end with the hospital showed me that they optically they
(17:06):
still look better together.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So you think they're going to go back to Willow.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
No, but just the the scene that with the kids
showed me that this Michael and Willow look really good together.
And it's too bad that it couldn't make it. It's
too bad they couldn't make it work. I don't see
I don't see Sasha with Michael at all. But maybe
because of Daisy, I don't know. And then what about Jason.
Where do we see Jason.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
His girls coming back?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, we don't know Kelly, if she's or not, we
don't know. But you think that's the matter.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
It doesn't matter if she's the bridge or if she's
a different character. They've already tested them together and they
tested well. So she's coming back to Jason. Yeah, that's
going to be his girl, So it doesn't matter. If
they bring her back as Bridge or she's a new character,
she's going to be Jason girl man.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Just as long as over bring a.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Break back exact we back. It's obvious what they're doing.
They're bringing her back for Steve Burton.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I've read that a lot of people want Jason and
Liz to find each other again.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Okay, so I like Jason and Liz. I did my damn.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'm just saying that's that they do it.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I read the chatboards and then the chat rooms, and I.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Do like them together.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And you know, well I'm old, but I had two
number one posts and more length than you'll ever have
on one of your posts.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So anyway, it's not anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Michael likes the bust chops. But you know, if you
get on Reddit and you read the forums, because I
do research, Michael used to try it. People are talking
about Liz and Jason possibly reuniting. Now, you guys are
gonna think I'm crazy. And I've said it before, and
I put on Reddit it was a banger of a post.
It was number one for the for three straight days.
(19:04):
Said I said, I said, Jason and Anna are the
next super couple, and hang on, hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on. Before you two cut me off,
I'm gonna make the case, okay, because I am sick
of the Robin apologists on here. Oh, nobody gives a
shit about Robin Robin's twenty years.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Ago apparently all all the comments on your Reddit posts. Yeah,
I agree that it's that. It's because it should not
be together.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I know, and I and and I get it, and
the masses are asses on this one. Because I will
tell you why, Because I don't care that he was
with the daughter. If that's the case, let's let's just
throw out every storyline, okay. Let's let's throw out Drew
with mommy and daughter. Let's throw out Sonny with Morgan
and Ava and Ava with Daddy and son. Let's throw
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out half of the relationships that have been forged that
are awkward and have right. Thank you. That's why it's man.
That is a great point.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Those are great points that you. I mean, Jason, nobody
cares though I'm sorry they were a super couple of.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The nine thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't care. Thirty years ago. Probably weren't watching it,
that's when you disappeared.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Probably did, I probably did.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think you disappeared during that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I know I made, I made, I make no mones
about it, but I think you're like everyone else. You're
living in the past. Nobody gives a shit about Robin
and people that are doing it. Okay, I don't want
to hear that it's it's awkward because of the mother,
because I just made the case that accessual type relationships
can happen. I could give a ship right throughout half
of the of the relationships right now that on general hospitals,
every mother has been with the son, every every daughters. Yeah,
(20:49):
less this is bug.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You have valid points, you know what you brought back
some valid points, but they do need to bring back
that you just mentioned is Morgan. Why haven't you.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Thought now, Michael, you don't remember Morgan, but Morgan is
Michael's brother, and he was with Ava.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Harley and Sunny's biological son. Yeah, he was with Why
haven't they bought him back?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah? I don't know what's going on there, but I'm
gonna make the case too. With Jason and Anna, I
think what I like about them is and by the way,
for the majority of people that disagree, there were quite
a few people that did see my point on that
thread that I posted, because look at they have chemistry,
they have trust, they have friendship. I like that kiss
in Morocco. Like there are some let's just take the
(21:36):
Robin factor up because of what I just said with
prior relationships on the show. But they have years of trust.
There's a chemistry there, there's a comfort there, like with
these two together. So you're out. I mean, first of all,
I wanted Anna and Valentine. And now that now that
Joshua Jackson or whatever, this guy Jonathan is leaving, do
(21:56):
you bring back Valentine? Now it's wide open for Valentine.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh yes, bring back I love Valentine. He's great. I see, yes,
bring it back. I mean no, you know who they
need to bring back now?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh my god, I agree Nicholas.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Can't we need Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, you need Nicholas back. We need Nell back. We
need Esme back. She was a great villain, because we
need our villains. Do you like Esme.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Spencer back?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
They all die? They all know, nobody dies on General Hospital.
You can bring back face on tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Samside, Nicholas Spencer need to come back.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I agree with Nicholas. I think Nell would be great
Luke died in like a ski accident in ski lift.
They never die though, they like everyone's a p I
on general hospital and they're all stage deaths. But if not,
and if you don't remember Britt, but if Britt come
you don't remember it, do you know? If Britt comes back,
they'll be like they covered up to death, that they'll
(22:56):
do something ultimately. The writers always sucking up, the writers
usually sucking up. But maybe they'll get it right this time,
you know. And maybe you guys are right, maybe I
am wrong, And maybe Michael and Sasha captain obvious couple
get together, and maybe it's Jason and Brett. I want
Jason and Anna.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Maybe Jason Brett it is. It's right. We've got some
money now that Joshua Jackson's gone. You got some money.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Bring back Julian Jerome while you're at it, you know,
I mean like we need like you love yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes, he was great.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So who who do you guys see? Then? Can I
throw out a couple? How about Liz and Liz loveless Liz?
Because I think Cody and Molly are heading towards a
good a good thing and handsome Cody looks so good.
(23:56):
He looks so he's great. He's my favorite character on
the show. He's the he's the he's the one character
that has the depth of anybody. He's complicated, but we
love him. He looked really good cut that hair man,
the guys. He looks chiseled. He looks good with Molly,
he's a ship show. She's buttoned up. That equals good
chemistry for a couple, correct, like we want to see that. Okay,
what about now with Liz? And this might be a reach,
but what do you think about Liz and Isaiah? He
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is a.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Him and.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Obvious though. Yeah, but that here's here, Okay, here's my thing.
You say no right away, but there's gonna be a
thing where she cannot be with him, so he might
move on, right, Like he's gonna have to. He doesn't
know that. She probably staw has a thing for him,
but she's kind of with Sidwell, right, so they are
Oh no, no, they are there, They are there. But
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she's gonna lose him because he's gonna move on at
some point and it's gonna break her heart because she
can't do anything and when she can, when her and said,
well erupt, it's gonna be too late. So my take
is in between what do you guys think of Liz
and Isaiah pairing? Or who do you guys see Liz with?
Who's loveless Liz with? It ain't Dante.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
There's nobody right now, you know, someone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Did say Drew. God now, And by the way, I
tell Michael this the other day, sonya, how creepy is?
I mean, this guy's great, he's because we hate him.
But Billy Miller's Drew. Billy Miller's Drew would have never
have been like this story and that I would have
never been able to take place. Do you agree with
you on that?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I completely agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So are you saying Liz and Drew sarcastically? Yes? Okay,
I like well, but someone they did mention it. I mean,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
One person, probably as crazy as you.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Probably no, no one's as crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't know. There's nobody for Liz. They're gonna have
to bring in some new characters for Liz.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
She needs to find love and it's okay to be single,
like whatever. We know not every person has to have
another person, but but we want our couples together. We
don't have and I've talked about it the last few podcasts.
There's no super couple on this show, and I don't sup.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
There's no there's no super couple and there's no super
villain and this is a lull right here. Don't tell me, said, well,
it is a super villain. Come on, he's not. You know,
it's like, we need a Franco. We need I did a.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Poll on even Max needs a guy. Max.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
My god, Nacy looks she looks younger every episode. She
looks tremendous. I agree, Yeah, that's well Max. He's got Spinelli.
Oh we love Spinelle's are warm. Spinelle's our warm blanket.
Everything is right in the world when Spinelle's on.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
He's gonna be on in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
So he's.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I listened to his podcast and he was in live
in in his Taylor and someone and someone called him
for makeup, so oh.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Good, So he's so his scenes are coming then, yeah,
because I like, like I call them warm blankets on
the show, you know, like we have our comfort, like
our warm blankets when we're not feeling well. Spinelle is
a warm blanket, you know, like Anna's a warm blanket.
Scottie Baldwin was a warm blanket, Robert Scorpio, Felicia Mack,
those are our warm blankets, Lucy Coe right on the show.
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And Spinelle is definitely a warm blanket. And here here
here's my question too, it has this is gonna be
I don't know. I can get some serious shit for this,
but is Liz is her time ran out?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Like think and hear me out right, like.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Like like, let's be let's let's be honest. Here is
her time up? Like Okay, she's a warm blanket for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Try to get rid of her once, do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think so, then they renegotiate your contract or something.
Rebecca Urth's right, they.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Get rid of and everybody went, I know, and that's
they fired her and they they brought her back.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And that's what I was telling Michael that the like
JH will listen, the writers listen if people complain enough.
But I just wonder with her, like has it run
its course? And I hate to say it, but I'm
just being honest as I think out loud, like what
is her character bring to the table at this point
other than head nurse? All our kids are old? Is
aiden is nineteen looks like he's forty. I mean like
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like they're all seventeen, seventeen looks like he's thirty five.
They're all I mean like they're all out of the
house pretty much. I mean like she doesn't have a partner.
How maybe the writers have failed her. But where does
her story go? You know? And a week ago, would
I told you I wanted Sasha gone, but now, no
way now? And I said it two weeks I said
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I want her gone. Then last week I said, now
she's gonna be a hot part of the show right
because of the kid. Now she's here to stay. But
just with Liz, Like where do you go? Like what's
her storyline? Or do we just keep her along because
she's a nice, warm blanket and we need that comfortable
face around.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I feel like she's a warm blanket.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Definitely a warm blanket, But I mean the time to
put the blanket in the closet. I mean like I like.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh no, they've tried. It didn't work. He's got a
very big fan base.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But you can see what I'm going with it, Like
I'm not and I love her, but I just from
a writing point of I'm like, well, what can they
do to make her story interesting and like and again,
and who do you pair with? You know, it's like
because I don't think I.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Think you have enough guys. They don't have enough guys.
I need to get some more guys on the show. Which,
by the way, I do like the Lucas recast too,
Like he's another one.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Though he's great.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I like him. Didn't like him initially just for a
quick second, but then I think I remember texting Michael going,
I like this new Lucas. Yeahs like Brad. Yeah, Michael
doesn't like. I love Brad. He's a warm blanket. You
don't like that? Yeah, Well, you can't just say that
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way the character what it is?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Brad really?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, he's just you know.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Why you hate him because you haven't from the beginning.
You haven't from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That is fair, But okay, what do you hate about
the character? Then, since she said it, you put it
out to the universe. What do you hate about Brad?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
He just he's too I want to say, not conniving, but.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Too desperate.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's that's that he is. And he's ship so desperate.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
He is desperate. He's desperate for Luke.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Where his character is started and where it is.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, it's true, there's an evolution there, but exactly well.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
As a new viewer, yeah, I would say this character
is too desperate. I need him off my screen.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah no, I mean look at it. And I think it's
fair for Michael to say that because he doesn't have
If you're just joining the show and you're new, and
you know Michael's that millennial MIENNI okay, so you know,
I get it. I like that he's desperate because he
always fucks up. He's too brutally honest, like I we
see the good in Brad, Like he tried to woo
Lucas in Miami and then's Lucas got hambreed and his
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mouth to mouth on Marcos lead blood blood blood for
like an hour while he was drunk. But and and
Brad was too nice, like I love you Lucas. Just
he wanted to go to Miami. He was dangling the
blackmail over Porsche to get there, and he's just he's
a lovable idiot. I think, yes, Like I'm I'm a
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lovable I'm a lovable idiot. I don't have my act
together half the time, but people love me, like thank you.
I'm not I'm not. I'm not, so you're good. So
would you, Michael, would you, now that we're dumping the
heavy salary here of Lucky, would you bring well, Brad's
not a heavy salary. But so you are there characters
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that have come and gone in your year watching that
you'd like to bring back? Are there any that come
to mind that have got have gone that you'd like
to see come back now that they can probably afford
to bring maybe three or four people back. So I'm
trying to think, who's who's exited Sonya in the last
year that maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We just need to bring We need to bring back
the Castad.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Iron hello, yeah, yeah, Nicholas for sure, yeah, and Valentine yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And we need to bring back Morgan Clintis and.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Who the lawyer? No, the lawyer, Yeah, he always has
beef with oh, what's his name, Marty?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
No, No, Marty Cyrus' brother. Yes, yes, yeah, the gray
haired guy. We do love him. And again and this
is the problem I have with the writers. This is
the problem I have with the writers, like they just
they dip these characters and Marshall comes in like he's
been on tour and partying with the sunglasses on at
the party that they're like, what baby like Marshall dips
in and out. Stella dips in and out. Nicholas is in,
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is in, is in? You know, is in jail in
prison like dips in and out. I don't understand what
the heck the point of keeping that guy in retainer
was when they don't even use him. Like Scottie Baldwin,
I think God forbid my one of my favorite warm blankets.
We can all agree gone. I think gone gone, you know, yeah,
where you got to think that you could bring some
(33:12):
people back, you know, and which leads me to the bad,
to the bad. In the worst recast, we have the
best recast in history, we have the worst comeback in history,
and now we have the worst, the worst recast. Okay,
her brother is gone. It's time for Lulu to pack
her bags and get the fuck out of town. She's
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gotta go.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And at the other two lilies before her great.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I like Emmy Ryan, I mean whatever in Raylan, she
was great. I know my mom always loved the first Lulu,
but I don't know why they didn't get Emmy Ryland back.
I mean she was great. Like again, she would have
been more sincere this girl's got that resting, she got
the rb F going like she's she's manipularly, there's nothing
redeeming about her, Like I don't root for her whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I don't think she's annoying.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Get her off.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
You know, she's not on the ending credits yet. Have
you noticed that the ending? You know, like how at
the beginning the beginning?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Michael's really good with that is if you know, Michael
always says, oh, what's what's the kid's name that he
made the appearance on the name? Michael loves you said
James made the opening credits. We love James. That's Cody's guy.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Though she's not on the opening credits, she still hasn't
made it. I'm like, ware they going to give her
the opening credits.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Her and Michael or not opening credits?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Not yet? Oh Michael, Oh it's a question of Rory
is going to be in every freaking episode.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
If if Michael makes it before uh Lulu, then something strong?
Oh well yeah, I mean she's been there for like
why in that like three months?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I mean she's the worst recast I've ever seen,
is Like, I mean, if I would write her out
I would shave some more, shave some more off the budget,
right and bring back someone else, Like I don't get,
I don't I don't get that one, you know, I
don't get why you get rid of you know, to
bring in Lucky, you get rid of another great, complicated character, Cyrus,
(35:30):
who was phenomenal. Jeff Thorberg was a great actor. Like,
we loved him. We kind of rooted for him because
he was a villain, but he was like a spiritual fake,
like a Shiloh. But yet there was some good in
him and he was so his character was great, and
for them to get rid of him like that, to
me was a really bad exit to let Cyrus go. Yeah,
(35:55):
but they but they tend to let these character yeah yeah.
And speaking of more good guys, how about jos on
the stand this week? Just crushing it. If I'm ever
on trial, I want to be friends with Joss and
I want her defending me. Did you see how she
owned Rick?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Oh? She's so good, honest, great, but.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
She she couldn't get rattled on the stand.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
She's a w SBA's ship. She has has a training
to and not do that.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
She took to the training quickly. But yeah, like I
love Joss like and I love I love the Agent
Jack storyline. It's one of my favorites. And I think
she'll be with with Vaughn lou Vaughn, what the heck
is name? Von Von the surfer. I could see because
she likes the older dudes. He's got that dex vibe going,
you know, mm hmmmm hm.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I think you're right, you know so, I love her character.
I love her character. She is wonderful. Yeah, I'm kind
of And with Trina and her guy.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
We talked about what did you say, Michael about their
scene last week when they were doing the deed.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh, I just skipped it. It's the first time I
ever fast forward through a Treno hospital scene ever.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That is so funny. They're like I fast.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Forward through Looking and Liz this week, guys like under
the tree another like, who cares? So what I do?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I don't fast forward.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I just tune tune it out. I just on your phone.
Yeah yeah, you walk around it, do stuff around the house. Well,
that scene's going on for seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I kind of get that with with but with u
Kai and Treena, I was like, I can't because it
was all the Geo drama. I wanted to get to
the drama. I wanted to get to the meat, and
so I was like, I cannot do this. This is
I don't know why they included that. It was so
left out of left field.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Was just and we talked about that last week, like
in a week of great episodes with Geo and Michael
coming back and all that, and then they just threw
that in there really weird, like let's just get them
to sleep together so she can get over Spencer.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
And it was only one episode. The rest of the
right was like, where's.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I'm sorry, but Natalia getting wasted?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I like, can I say something? I like wasted? Natalia wasted.
Natalia is a lot more likable than sober Italian. Yeah,
get the hammer, but I like her. I like drunk Natalia.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
She was kind of like, okay, I kind.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Of like her.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Tell me this too, because we talked about the via.
I'd like to think that Sonny's days of as a
line man are not over yet. I like to think
he's got one more left in him. I always loved
him with Nina. Do you think are they are we
over the Natalia Sonny thing or are they gonna find you think,
I hope you think they're not gonna happen, or they're gonna
get together.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
They're not gonna I hope. So yeah, And you know
that's the lawyer. Oh you know that that cute lawyer
who happens to be in real life. Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I've been saying yeah, yeah, so Michael told me no,
I've been saying that that they need to pair Sonny
with the assistant da a A yeah, eight Turner. He
has her first name.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I don't know why that.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's okay, she's a da who cares a d A
and Sonny to me, are the next super couple, right,
the potential super couple. They look good together. He's a
little older than her, but you know, well, but they
they they there's a there's a chemistry on screen together though.
And I agree, Sonya, you read my mind. I think
it's Ada Turner and Sonny.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think so too. I think you're right, right, Yeah,
they've done that storyline before, so I feel like that
could be a possibility.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And then guys, going back to the singles, so we
got the bad with Lulu. You know, to me, there's
just so much other, so much good going on, right,
now I have to really think hard to find the bad.
If you want to add to the bad, feel free
to add to it. What do you guys think about?
Where where's Dante? Where does Dante? Uh? Where does the
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fallout with Dante? And like and and do we have
someone for him down the road? Is it? Is it
a character to be determined?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Like, well, you know it's going to be I mean,
that's further ahead. It's it's going to be Lulu.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Come on, I don't say that, but like that is
captain obvious?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, basically, but can you bring Sam back from the dead?
You know how.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I should was terrible?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
We were talking about that. I was in tears. I
was watching that episode on the way to I was
on my way to Phoenix, and I was just I
was like, I was like, I was like in the
fetal position in the car when she died, like and
they were doing the throat the flashbacks with her and Jason,
like Kelly Monica should still be on this So.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
How could they give would have heard? Like honestly that
twenty years Like seriously, yeah, that was that was a
miss whoever whoever decided that one ship to God?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Basically, yep, it's the same person that said, hey, let's
recast Lulu.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Well, like, where was the original actress ever considered?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Well, they didn't bring back Emma. Emma was I think
she was considered, but I think she turned it down,
didn't she?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I don't know, but they should have bought back either
the first or second movie.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, I mean, I'm more familiar the first ones when
I dipped out for a.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Few hours, but then she turned it down. Then she
must have slid the storyline was like I can't do this.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, I don't know, or maybe her real life, maybe
she was pregnant and she had to raise a fan.
I don't know the story betweening why Emma's not back
on the show, but I really liked her a lot.
I liked her. Speaking of Emma, what did you guys
think about her Lolita moment on the pool trying to
impress uh the old professor there?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, what's the deal with that guy?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I don't know, but he's he liked. He's a good
looking guy. He liked what he was seeing though he
was checking out Emma. It was a creepy kind of scene,
but he was they were they were creeping, but it
was it was right. I mean Professor Dalton and Emma's cute.
He reminds me of a I forgot the doctor a
few years ago that we had on that was really
(42:25):
a stud and they let him go. I forgot his name,
but brown hair guy too, But yeah, I know he's cool.
And the whole said, well thing is is interesting. Emma's
angle is interesting. Is she trying to get in there
because she's an animal rights person and she wants to
expose him? And and that's why Josh is doing the WSP.
I don't It's gonna be very interesting to see how
they evolved this whole storyline.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
M hmm. I agree. We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Do we know when? Do we know when BRIT's coming back?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
End of July?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, they already teased it on the episode Friday to Britt.
They cheered toasted to Cody, Cody and Molly the new
couple toasting to Britt. A little foreshadowing of what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
And can I say Christina she's a great little actress.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Oh my god, I love her. Now do they bring
they bring but bring back Blaze? Like, what do you do?
I agree, Well, I've said the two now as of
before Michael I said the two best recasts of recent
memory of Ben Christina and May right the Davis Girls
clearly right. But then Michael comes along and Michael just
just stole the greatest recast ever. But yes, I like Christina.
What do you do with her? Though? Like, do you
(43:34):
put her with Blaze? Do you? Is there a guy
in there?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Because she's kind of everybody.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
She's a ship show. She's a ship show show.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
She's a fucking cluster. But I love it.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, she's my kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I like honestly, that girl has made me cry. She's
a great actress, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
I don't think the other Christina would have had that.
They couldn't have done this death and Mollie, we know
when she you know, she's too busy getting tanked behind
the wheel of a car. But thank god because we
went through a weird Molly in between the Superman. She
was horrible. Remember that the worst is great?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
These these two girls together, yeah, they are. I don't
think you get rid of Sam. What the hell?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I know? The Davis girls. Yeah, and Alexis. I'm not
a big Alexis fan. We've talked about this. You and
I but Alexis's scenes and especially with aces trust in
the and her her expressions and trying to protect uh,
trying to protect Christina at the same time. Like Alexis
and Diane, she's she's really you. No, she's a great
actress and she's held it together and the scenes with
(44:41):
her and Diana are really good. I like Diana and
Alexis's relationship.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, I do. I love Diane.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
What do we think of? What do you think of
Willow's new haircut?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
She's cute. I mean she can put it off. Not everybody. Yeah,
I think she pulled it off. She's good. I don't
know about Honestly, I hate you, but that just needs
to be giving his job right, like he's well.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
That's what That's what Michael was saying last week that
maybe our villain is right in front of us and
it's Drew. They could make him. I mean, he's already
a douchebag. They can make him. Times tell and those.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Shots that he was doing on the girl, I was like,
oh my god, they're showing this. I was like, what
the heck.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Give me some Kennedy baby. It looked fun, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
But it was Honestly, he she is a major juice bag.
And my favorite thing with Drew was when Jason beat
the ship out of him.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh yeah, that was great. That was That.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Was my favorite scene.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Cap Hey was Ezra on the show before as another
character because he looks awfully familiar. I see him as
a younger actor. Is that does that guy that play?
That's where he was as a young guy. I remember.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
He dated Kelly Taylor on Beverly Hill.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Nine O two one, oh before your time, Jason Priestley,
the great great late Luke Perry, who I had had.
I had the privilege of getting undressed in front of
to go do a show and he was there and
we were doing my band was about to play. No,
not like that. He was backstage. We were backstage and
we had to get all get into our outfice to
play and he was right there going, hey boys, he
was freaking great Luke Perry. But that was nine o
(46:21):
two one. Oh you don't remember. That doesn't ring about
you at all.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I heard of this show. But my family, my family.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
You know, God, we feel old now.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
My family was more of a one Tree Hill, Oh
okay kind of family.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Okay, as.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yes, it's not they don't have the peach pit.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
There's I just reverd this theme song, that's all.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
It was a good theme song. Yep.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, but that's how you recognize him.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Okay, all right, all right, well, I mean things are
about to get interesting. Summertime is happening. I can't wait
till we get our park scenes. We're gonna at the
park scenes. We'll get the Gregory bench, right, We're gonna
get all that stuff that g H loves to do
during the summer, a lot of metro court pool, a
lot of that stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Let it roll, let it roll right good right now?
Speaker 1 (47:16):
It is like you got you got on the phone
and you're like, General Hustle's really good right now.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Now so good and you know good more good things
are to come.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I I I agree, I completely agree, Sonya. You were
great today.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Boys, I appreciate you were great. You were great. And
trying to give you that golf clap again, but uh yeah,
you were you were you were awesome. You were great today.
You'll have to come back give us your hot takes
when you next time you come back. Jason and are
going to be together and they're going to be love
you guys, get me.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Back on when when the birch comes back we can
talk about Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
All right, all right, all right, we can we can
definitely do that. So, yeah, great job today. Appreciate you.
She gets the golf, Cliff. We're a budget here, Okay,
trying the best I can. No, you did great. I
really appreciate you coming on. It's always it's always good
(48:18):
to get like someone else's takes, someone that's been watching
the show. You and I, for the most part, we
kind of agree on most things, but our disagreements.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Are Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Hard that's a hard Michael too, that's a hard disagreement.
I disagree with you too. I also disagree with you
guys on Michael and Sasha, although I will say that
the baby would be the reason why they would get
back together basically. But that's enough because you remember, there
was no chemistry before that. That a one night stand. That
was it.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
You said there was no chemistry before that. It was
the old Michael.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
That's a good point too. That is a good point.
That's true. This Michael looks good with anyone. Yeah, that's
a really good point.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Was holding Chaucer's hand. They were living in the baby.
That is chemistry right there. And I was like, oh,
there's chemistry be right there. Yeah, Like it's like she
kind of knew too, Yeah, she knew, we knew.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
You don't know, no, I see it. I mean, I
don't know that I see them together. I thought it
was a moment where they were welcoming him a child
in the world. But his eyes and the way he
was cheering up again were way better than we would
have gotten with the other guy. Yes, like it was
very expressive. It was a great scene. Is it enough
to propel them to be a couple. I I don't know. Well,
I mean, well, you know, we'll find out. That's the
great part, because summer is always full of Summer's always
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full of the drama, you know. And and talk about
a pure talk about a pure soap opera moment, Willow
delivering the baby in the courtroom, like, I mean, unbelievable, right,
I mean that one was a classic soap opera moment
with Willow delivering the baby. Someone on the on the
threads was going of course, and she didn't even let
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her her heels were on the whole time. I thought
It was a great scene. I thought Willow did really well.
There that's the Willow I like, right, you know, and
her and Michael.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
There was a well, I mean, more drama is going
to come out because eventually will is going to find
out that her guy.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Was the mommy, right my, Yeah, Drew and the mommy
and the daughter. And you see Drew walking up at
the end of that scene with Willow and Willow and
Michael looking at the new baby boy, there was like
he kind of he walked right in there. You saw
that they were happy there as a family. Very interesting.
All right, well, we appreciate you. You were amazing, and
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we'll continue. We'll definitely have you on. All right, all right, absolutely,
that's Sonya there. Thank you so much, Sonya, bye bye.
She did a great she did a great job. So yeah,
I don't know, I mean, I see it, you guys.
You guys see Michael and and Sasha together. To your point,
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maybe with the new you know, the new Michael, that
does change things optics wise, right, I mean he looks great. Yeah,
they look better together than she did with the other guy,
you know. So I don't know, man, I really hope
Jason and Aa get together. So I can be I
can I could be redeemed and shut you all up.
(51:25):
But I don't know if it's gonna go that way.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Because Sonya broks, how many scenes have a hat in
the past two months? Zero after that kiss, they've.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Had a lot this week, though they're gonna have a
lot again next week. Remember they were together a lot
this week. But I don't Yeah, I don't know. I think.
I think. I look at I'm probably on an island.
Are I'm probably on? That's okay, we gonna be the first.
It's okay. I like my island. It's cozy, it's got snacks,
I can game, I can win against the computer on
NHM unless I'm playing you. I'm happy on my island.
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But there's a lot we're gonna find out because the
drama is happening, and we are to be one thing.
I know we're gonna be right there watching it. The fallout.
What happens with Geo next week? Michael? Did they stretch
this out a little bit? Probably? Probably gonna stretch that
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out that storyline, right, Sonny and Geo had good scenes
together this week? Do we agree on that? So?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Like the two three scenes of all Geo is in
this week.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, they were good scenes though with with Sonny, but
we're sending around Michael right now. Although they're gonna bring back,
you're gonna see Geo a lot as well. We're gonna
find out is Britt back, What's gonna happen with Curtis
and Portia? Are they Are they done? Curtis is really mad,
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Curtis is mad, We'll find out. That's why we watch it,
Man and Soap the podcast. Check it out on Instagram, Facebook.
We are gonna be back again next week. Big thank
you to Sonia. She did a great job and we
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will see you all next week on the Mad and
Soap Podcast
Yes, Man in Soap, back again from another amazing week
of bangers where every day it feels like a Friday.
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Every day it's.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Like a Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh my god, we got berths in the courtroom, we
got turned down proposals. Oh we got kind of weird
lolita vibes at the Metro Court. There's so much going on.
Oh it's Man and Soap the podcast. Hey it's Chris.
(00:55):
Thanks for thanks for joining us. You can catch us
on Man and Soap Podcast, Instagram, Facebook, All the good
stuff is there for you, so you can check that out.
And I've been watching johnal Hospital pretty much my whole life.
I dipped out a couple of years. And we're gonna
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be joined by a guest, a friend of mine. She's
been watching it probably just as long as me, and
she's probably got those more. He's got those in between
years that I probably I probably lost. That was playing
music and party and that's what happens. But we're gonna
bring in our probably first every guest I believe on
Man and so so we'll here. We're gonna get with
Sonya too here in just a little bit. As we
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of course, are broadcasting live from the Metro Court where
we always where all the good stuff happens. And now
we've got the pool and yeah, it's good to see.
What's up Cody. How you doing man? Yeah, thanks for
last night. Hung out with Cody last night at the
Brown Dog. Let me tell you something. That guy can go.
(02:02):
That guy can go, but he looks really good. Got
that new haircut. Yeah, hit me up later. Okay. So yeah,
we break this podcast down. It's pretty simple. We break
it down to the good, the bad, and the in between.
Don't do episodic. It's not how I do things. It's
not how we do things on here. We'll be joined
by Michael two coming up. So yeah, just have honest dialogue,
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a cheerleader for the soap, but also keeping it real.
There's a lot of good, there's a lot of bad.
I do want to get I love we're in the
My favorite part of General Hospital is always the end
of the spring towards the summer, because you start getting
you know, the action has shifted, like from the Metro
Court now it goes to the Metro Court pool where
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all the deception and all the conniving and all of
the planning goes on right at the Metro Court pool,
we'll get the park I imagined soon as well, and
there were some great scenes this week. It all centered
Aroun found two things, of course, the custody battle, geo
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fallout and a pure soap opera moment that took place
in the courtroom and only on this can only happen
on General Hospital. So joined joining us now is our
our our guests here on Man and Soap as we
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welcome Sonya to the program.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Hi there, how are you? Hello?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
How are you? I? I know I tried. I tried
to give you a nice golf clap. By the way,
can I redo that? Here we go? There you go?
How's that nice? Is that a nice welcome for you?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah? Great. I'm glad to be on the show.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'm glad to have you because I think that you know,
you'll keep it real. You and I definitely agree on
a lot of things. We also disagree on some things,
but I do I want to give you. I want
to get to Usually I'll do the good and the
bad and the stuff in between, you know, and then
we have other topics. But I want to get to
you because you are a guest, and I am a gentleman,
and I want your takes on the good and the bad,
because you've been watching this. So how long you've been
(04:13):
watching General Hospitals on you?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Since high school? Oh my god, it's been a long time.
It's been a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Did you So let me ask you a question. Did you?
Did you? Did your mom? How did you? How did
you get introduced to Port Charles?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I think I think just you know, when you're home
during the summer and you're watching TV, and I think
I just turned it on and then I just never stopped. Yeah,
it's kind of how every day.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, for me, it started with my mom. My mom
used to watch Another World.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Remember I used to watch Another World. Okay, I used
to watch Another World. I used to watch Days of
Our Life and then General Hospital.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I loved Another World. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
My mom loved Rachel and Mack if you remember them.
I of course, even my father would come on his
lunch and we'd all watch Another World during less That's
the bonds. It's the bond. That's so so, you know,
the bond.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You know when you're and then when it's when it stopped.
I think I started watching General Hospital, and I'd watched
Days of Our Lives, but I stopped watching Days of
Our Lives.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
But at the end, at the end of the day,
we know where your heart is. It's in Port, Charles. Oh,
it's it's And that's what this podcast is about. It's
about our favorite city in upstate New York. Right Port Charles.
Let let's go so much good going on right now
and get your take on some of the bad, because
there is some bad, and I think that we're going
to agree on a lot of the bad. But here's
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how I see it. I want to get your take
on it. When Michael first was recast, and I've always said,
Chad Duley or whatever his name is, he is just
a snoozer. He had to go. It was about time.
I've never seen a recast. First of all, to me,
this is the greatest recast in general hospital history, and
I've never seen a recast. I want your to on
this as seamless as it is with Michael, like he
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has become Michael Corinthos from the minute he walked in
at the nurse's ball and said we're going home Wiley.
His eyes, he's intense. I'm sure he's a good looking guy.
I'm sure the ladies like him. He's got personality and
his eyes. Like his eyes, he acts with his eyes.
We get more from Rory Gibson than we ever gotten
twenty years. I've always said, with this other guy, Chad,
how do you say it is a Chad Duel, Chad Duley.
(06:22):
I don't know whatever his name is, I don't know whatever.
We get more. We get more with Rory Gibson in
one week then we got in twenty years. He's so expressive.
He looks great, right, I mean, he just his his
he's genuine. He jumped right in. I said this last
week on the podcast. I don't know if he had
a chance to listen, but I said, you know, when
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Chad went into the suits and said I need to
take some time off, They're probably like, okay, oh man,
are you sure? And then when the doors shut, they're like, yes,
finally we get to get rid of this guy.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Like it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Like I know they probably what's that?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I know it is.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
But I like Chad. I like Chad. I thought he
was I think, I mean, he's been there for like
fifteen years. Like I thought he was a good Michael.
I thought he was good. I didn't think he was
a bad Michael. I thought he was a good Michael
and when he was gone, I was like, what.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Okay, oh they're fine, very they did great this Rory Gibson.
As soon as he walked in, I was like, oh, yeah,
it's it's.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's like it's over. Like I said, if he did
a poll, the other Michael would be in single digits.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It's not even closed, and they've done a bunch of
recasts lately. Lulu not a fan. She's annoy when you.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Talk about it, and that's the bad. I want to
get to that in a minute. But yeah, but I
want to focus on Michael Ian.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Don't forget Jack Brennan. I didn't like him at first.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I couldn't stand and we talked about it.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
No, I like him.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I love the way he talks. Hello, Josh, Josh, you
have an assignment, don't screw it up. Understood, like he's
so great, Like I love the Australian guy. But it
took me a second. So and that's my point about
Michael is I genuinely do not like recasts. At first,
I hate them, but this is the only because I
thought Chad was just asleep for fifteen years and now
he's probably sleeping as we're talking. But I this actor
(08:07):
in this recast has been amazing. It's seamless and I
almost I hate to say this, but the end of
Friday's episode, he and Sasha look way better together than
the other Michael Andrew and Sasha look at seeing where
they're laughing with the kids. It's like, wow, they look
like a family. They look aesthetically like I'm an optics guy,
(08:28):
like I like my couples looking good. Right, like they
look good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Whoever, whoever cast.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Him right needs a raise.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And if you look at all the everybody's talking about
it too.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh my god, he is. It's like I said, he's
the shony, He's the shiny toy, like and we love
him because that's my point. He's like he's like, come
in and he's become Like I think the suits when
he went in, I think the suits just said, do
whatever the fuck you want, like we want I want
you to take over this role, and I want you
to do opposite of whatever Chad did because he was
(09:00):
he was asleep for fifteen years. You take on your role,
you do what you gotta do. And he has already
he's already ten times better. But you do what you
gotta do. We're gonna recreate Michael and this recast so
you and I can agree. This recast has just been
really epic. Yeah, it's been. It's been unbelievable. That's that's really.
(09:21):
That's the good. That's the good right now, right Like
we look forward to Michael Corinhos, like we want more
Michael Corintho scenes. The scenes with him and Jason are powerful.
You got like two alphas going the scenes with him
and Sasha. The way he held himself in court, the
guy's very expressive with his eyes. Like, we have a
Michael Corinthos now that we can build the soap around
for the next twenty years.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, I think you're absolutely right, nailed it. I totally
agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Rory's great, He's just perfect. We'll bring
that dog. We'll bring that. We'll bring that there's no
there's no dogs allowed in the Metro Court. No. But
you're on the phone though, it's okay, what's your Maybe
he's that dog likes that dog likes Michael Carinthos as well.
(10:07):
I can hear it.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You see how excited. Even the dog gets excited when
we mentioned Michael Crinthos. But that's but that's really like,
that's the good right now. And the Geo storyline and
the actor there, Giovanni Motts or whatever is that he played.
He's great and he does play violin in real life,
by the way, And for people that are listening, yeah,
for people that are listening right now and they don't
know he was discovered like at the Chicago Bulls halftime
game or something.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I didn't think he was that great of an actor
until until the Nurses ball and then yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, yeah, like he's kind of coming into his own
he's got a right to be angry and there's been again. Yeah,
the scenes are phenomenal. I've been hard on brook Lynn
the last few months, and again I don't know if
that's the result of the writers just dragging out as
you know, sonya what they do these stories. My god,
(11:01):
they drag him out. I was just maybe weird. I
was just tired of the whole, the whole baby drama.
But I think Brooklyn has really delivered the goods along
with Lois in these scenes.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Right, and even when, like she told Tracy when she
was you know, the whole scenes with Tracy. I thought
Brooklyn has been really good.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, Michael and I. Michael just joined us too, and
we talked about it. How about that scene though, go back,
I mean Tracy. When Tracy is genuine and she's sincere,
she gets you in your feels, like when she found
out Geo was the great grandson. Here's your great grandfather Edward, Like,
oh my god, right, Like, how great is Tracy? And
we also need we need conniving Tracy as well, right,
(11:40):
I mean we love that. But but yeah, so these
scenes with Brooklyn and and uh Lois and I don't
know if there's a path there for forgiveness, but he's
not gonna forgive.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's just gonna take some time. They're gonna drag it out.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh for a year. Oh my god, it's gonna go forever.
John Travolta's sister will still be here. I mean, what's Gloria.
I love when she comes in the mother, the grandmother.
But you know, to me, there was a lot of
that's a lot of good that happened this week with
all these scenes, because I think every episode they've been
like bangers, Like I feel like they're all they all
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have a Friday type feel to it.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'm gonna agree with you on that one. It's been
it's been really good. I mean, let's see how it
plays out with the They're going to drag the Geo
and the Dante and the Brooklyn for a while. That
was a couple of months, probably to the holidays. Honestly,
they're probably going to.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Drag it out to the holidays twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Five.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I wouldn't be surprised, so, Michael, from your perspective, because
Sonya and I've been watching it a long time. You're
you're you're a little over a year in What do you?
What do you? What is your impression like how the
soap has evolved since you've watched it and the recast
of Michael. You got to see the old Michael, you
(13:04):
know what, what's your kind of what's your kind of
take on all this? Do you like this new Michael
compared to the old Michael as a new fairly new
to the show? I mean, because we are all in agreement, right, He's.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Great, like it was perfectly cast.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Now, Sonia. Michael thinks Emma and Geo are the future
couple of the soap. I vehemently disagree. What's your take
on that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Oh, they're cute there. I wouldn't say the future couple,
but they're super We're projecting the younger generation, you know,
for the younger generation, Like, they're super cute. I like them.
I'm kind of curious to see what they're going to
do with Josh Josh Josh. Are they going to play
with that guy?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Her handle the surfer dude. We call him surfer dude.
But does he even have a name? Agents what?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't remember his name?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
What's his name? Yeah, n he looks like a Vaughan
douchey name.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I really liked her with the guy they killed off, Oh.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
We love Oh my god, Oh my god, I.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Agree that one killed him off.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That one well, you know, you know why they killed
him off because we brought the worst character comeback in
the history of General Hospital. If Michael is a snoozer,
lucky is Oh my god. The salary is no point.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'm not really sure why they brought him was no point.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I completely agree. I'm not a fan of uh he
we love him as a kid. It's over. You got
You're better off recasting Greg. You are better off, he's gone.
You are better off recasting Greg Vaughan in that role
because Greg Vaughan is aged really well. Lucky looks a
little he looks a little unkemped. He's like although I
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like that because he's like me, he's a rock star.
But he was just such a snoozer. The writers really sucked.
They gave him nothing to do. His performance was really
it was just snoozer, you know. And I love the
scene and Michael, we're I think we talk about last night,
Will you marry me? I want to stay here. No,
you don't know. I really don't. I'm leaving. I mean
just a ship show.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Like like he can't he he.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Can't leave fast enough, like go. We don't like adult Lucky.
We don't like adult Lucky. Loveless. Liz is back right.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Like what are they gonna do with Liz? Now?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Go to your new man, all right, Michael. So let's
play the singles game, because there are a lot Okay,
we got a lot of singles that I want to
I want to go down. And then we're gonna get
to the bad because I think that we're all going
to agree on a unanimous bad of a certain female
character and that I don't have to give away right now,
but I think we all know who it is. But
look at the singles you just brought up a point
(15:45):
Lucky Gone, So you got you got, you got Loveless Liz,
You've got Sasha, You've got Jason, You've got Dante, You've
got you know, you've got these four major like single
single players.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Maybe Michael, Well, I do really not really, Okay, Sasha
is gonna go with Michael?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, this is what hang on you think, Sasha? Hang on?
Back up? Do you think Sasha and Michael are going
to be together?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
How do you not say that?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, they're not going to be together because because he's,
because he's, because he's he's not.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
What he talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, no, so that's not gonna happen. A there's no
chemistry there. He doesn't love her. He loves her because
she's the mother of his child. They were not together
before when he got burnt. They were never going to
be together. It was a one night stance. So get
that thought out of your head. They are not going
to be together.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
No, No, there's no chemistry there.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, Well, you two clearly are watching the.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Wrong So Michael, yes, they're going to be together. They
put together.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well okay, now hang on, I'm not gonna walk back,
but it's it's I If anything does bring them together,
it will be the baby, right, I mean, it will
be Daisy. Although I still say I still think, I
still think that scene with Michael and Willow at the
end with the hospital showed me that they optically they
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still look better together.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
So you think they're going to go back to Willow.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
No, but just the the scene that with the kids
showed me that this Michael and Willow look really good together.
And it's too bad that it couldn't make it. It's
too bad they couldn't make it work. I don't see
I don't see Sasha with Michael at all. But maybe
because of Daisy, I don't know. And then what about Jason.
Where do we see Jason.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
His girls coming back?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, we don't know Kelly, if she's or not, we
don't know. But you think that's the matter.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
It doesn't matter if she's the bridge or if she's
a different character. They've already tested them together and they
tested well. So she's coming back to Jason. Yeah, that's
going to be his girl, So it doesn't matter. If
they bring her back as Bridge or she's a new character,
she's going to be Jason girl man.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Just as long as over bring a.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Break back exact we back. It's obvious what they're doing.
They're bringing her back for Steve Burton.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I've read that a lot of people want Jason and
Liz to find each other again.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Okay, so I like Jason and Liz. I did my damn.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'm just saying that's that they do it.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I read the chatboards and then the chat rooms, and I.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Do like them together.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And you know, well I'm old, but I had two
number one posts and more length than you'll ever have
on one of your posts.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So anyway, it's not anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Michael likes the bust chops. But you know, if you
get on Reddit and you read the forums, because I
do research, Michael used to try it. People are talking
about Liz and Jason possibly reuniting. Now, you guys are
gonna think I'm crazy. And I've said it before, and
I put on Reddit it was a banger of a post.
It was number one for the for three straight days.
(19:04):
Said I said, I said, Jason and Anna are the
next super couple, and hang on, hang on, hang on,
hang on, hang on. Before you two cut me off,
I'm gonna make the case, okay, because I am sick
of the Robin apologists on here. Oh, nobody gives a
shit about Robin Robin's twenty years.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Ago apparently all all the comments on your Reddit posts. Yeah,
I agree that it's that. It's because it should not
be together.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I know, and I and and I get it, and
the masses are asses on this one. Because I will
tell you why, Because I don't care that he was
with the daughter. If that's the case, let's let's just
throw out every storyline, okay. Let's let's throw out Drew
with mommy and daughter. Let's throw out Sonny with Morgan
and Ava and Ava with Daddy and son. Let's throw
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out half of the relationships that have been forged that
are awkward and have right. Thank you. That's why it's man.
That is a great point.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Those are great points that you. I mean, Jason, nobody
cares though I'm sorry they were a super couple of.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The nine thirty years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't care. Thirty years ago. Probably weren't watching it,
that's when you disappeared.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Probably did, I probably did.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think you disappeared during that.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I know I made, I made, I make no mones
about it, but I think you're like everyone else. You're
living in the past. Nobody gives a shit about Robin
and people that are doing it. Okay, I don't want
to hear that it's it's awkward because of the mother,
because I just made the case that accessual type relationships
can happen. I could give a ship right throughout half
of the of the relationships right now that on general hospitals,
every mother has been with the son, every every daughters. Yeah,
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less this is bug.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
You have valid points, you know what you brought back
some valid points, but they do need to bring back
that you just mentioned is Morgan. Why haven't you.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Thought now, Michael, you don't remember Morgan, but Morgan is
Michael's brother, and he was with Ava.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Harley and Sunny's biological son. Yeah, he was with Why
haven't they bought him back?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah? I don't know what's going on there, but I'm
gonna make the case too. With Jason and Anna, I
think what I like about them is and by the way,
for the majority of people that disagree, there were quite
a few people that did see my point on that
thread that I posted, because look at they have chemistry,
they have trust, they have friendship. I like that kiss
in Morocco. Like there are some let's just take the
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Robin factor up because of what I just said with
prior relationships on the show. But they have years of trust.
There's a chemistry there, there's a comfort there, like with
these two together. So you're out. I mean, first of all,
I wanted Anna and Valentine. And now that now that
Joshua Jackson or whatever, this guy Jonathan is leaving, do
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you bring back Valentine? Now it's wide open for Valentine.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh yes, bring back I love Valentine. He's great. I see, yes,
bring it back. I mean no, you know who they
need to bring back now?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Oh my god, I agree Nicholas.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Can't we need Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, you need Nicholas back. We need Nell back. We
need Esme back. She was a great villain, because we
need our villains. Do you like Esme.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Spencer back?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
They all die? They all know, nobody dies on General Hospital.
You can bring back face on tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Samside, Nicholas Spencer need to come back.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I agree with Nicholas. I think Nell would be great
Luke died in like a ski accident in ski lift.
They never die though, they like everyone's a p I
on general hospital and they're all stage deaths. But if not,
and if you don't remember Britt, but if Britt come
you don't remember it, do you know? If Britt comes back,
they'll be like they covered up to death, that they'll
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do something ultimately. The writers always sucking up, the writers
usually sucking up. But maybe they'll get it right this time,
you know. And maybe you guys are right, maybe I
am wrong, And maybe Michael and Sasha captain obvious couple
get together, and maybe it's Jason and Brett. I want
Jason and Anna.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Maybe Jason Brett it is. It's right. We've got some
money now that Joshua Jackson's gone. You got some money.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Bring back Julian Jerome while you're at it, you know,
I mean like we need like you love yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yes, he was great.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So who who do you guys see? Then? Can I
throw out a couple? How about Liz and Liz loveless Liz?
Because I think Cody and Molly are heading towards a
good a good thing and handsome Cody looks so good.
(23:56):
He looks so he's great. He's my favorite character on
the show. He's the he's the he's the one character
that has the depth of anybody. He's complicated, but we
love him. He looked really good cut that hair man,
the guys. He looks chiseled. He looks good with Molly,
he's a ship show. She's buttoned up. That equals good
chemistry for a couple, correct, like we want to see that. Okay,
what about now with Liz? And this might be a reach,
but what do you think about Liz and Isaiah? He
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is a.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Him and.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Obvious though. Yeah, but that here's here, Okay, here's my thing.
You say no right away, but there's gonna be a
thing where she cannot be with him, so he might
move on, right, Like he's gonna have to. He doesn't
know that. She probably staw has a thing for him,
but she's kind of with Sidwell, right, so they are
Oh no, no, they are there, They are there. But
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she's gonna lose him because he's gonna move on at
some point and it's gonna break her heart because she
can't do anything and when she can, when her and said,
well erupt, it's gonna be too late. So my take
is in between what do you guys think of Liz
and Isaiah pairing? Or who do you guys see Liz with?
Who's loveless Liz with? It ain't Dante.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
There's nobody right now, you know, someone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Did say Drew. God now, And by the way, I
tell Michael this the other day, sonya, how creepy is?
I mean, this guy's great, he's because we hate him.
But Billy Miller's Drew. Billy Miller's Drew would have never
have been like this story and that I would have
never been able to take place. Do you agree with
you on that?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I completely agree with you on that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So are you saying Liz and Drew sarcastically? Yes? Okay,
I like well, but someone they did mention it. I mean,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
One person, probably as crazy as you.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Probably no, no one's as crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't know. There's nobody for Liz. They're gonna have
to bring in some new characters for Liz.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
She needs to find love and it's okay to be single,
like whatever. We know not every person has to have
another person, but but we want our couples together. We
don't have and I've talked about it the last few podcasts.
There's no super couple on this show, and I don't sup.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
There's no there's no super couple and there's no super
villain and this is a lull right here. Don't tell me, said, well,
it is a super villain. Come on, he's not. You know,
it's like, we need a Franco. We need I did a.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Poll on even Max needs a guy. Max.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
My god, Nacy looks she looks younger every episode. She
looks tremendous. I agree, Yeah, that's well Max. He's got Spinelli.
Oh we love Spinelle's are warm. Spinelle's our warm blanket.
Everything is right in the world when Spinelle's on.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
He's gonna be on in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
So he's.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I listened to his podcast and he was in live
in in his Taylor and someone and someone called him
for makeup, so oh.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Good, So he's so his scenes are coming then, yeah,
because I like, like I call them warm blankets on
the show, you know, like we have our comfort, like
our warm blankets when we're not feeling well. Spinelle is
a warm blanket, you know, like Anna's a warm blanket.
Scottie Baldwin was a warm blanket, Robert Scorpio, Felicia Mack,
those are our warm blankets, Lucy Coe right on the show.
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And Spinelle is definitely a warm blanket. And here here
here's my question too, it has this is gonna be
I don't know. I can get some serious shit for this,
but is Liz is her time ran out?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Like think and hear me out right, like.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Like like, let's be let's let's be honest. Here is
her time up? Like Okay, she's a warm blanket for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Try to get rid of her once, do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think so, then they renegotiate your contract or something.
Rebecca Urth's right, they.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Get rid of and everybody went, I know, and that's
they fired her and they they brought her back.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And that's what I was telling Michael that the like
JH will listen, the writers listen if people complain enough.
But I just wonder with her, like has it run
its course? And I hate to say it, but I'm
just being honest as I think out loud, like what
is her character bring to the table at this point
other than head nurse? All our kids are old? Is
aiden is nineteen looks like he's forty. I mean like
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like they're all seventeen, seventeen looks like he's thirty five.
They're all I mean like they're all out of the
house pretty much. I mean like she doesn't have a partner.
How maybe the writers have failed her. But where does
her story go? You know? And a week ago, would
I told you I wanted Sasha gone, but now, no
way now? And I said it two weeks I said
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I want her gone. Then last week I said, now
she's gonna be a hot part of the show right
because of the kid. Now she's here to stay. But
just with Liz, Like where do you go? Like what's
her storyline? Or do we just keep her along because
she's a nice, warm blanket and we need that comfortable
face around.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I feel like she's a warm blanket.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Definitely a warm blanket, But I mean the time to
put the blanket in the closet. I mean like I like.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh no, they've tried. It didn't work. He's got a
very big fan base.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But you can see what I'm going with it, Like
I'm not and I love her, but I just from
a writing point of I'm like, well, what can they
do to make her story interesting and like and again,
and who do you pair with? You know, it's like
because I don't think I.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Think you have enough guys. They don't have enough guys.
I need to get some more guys on the show. Which,
by the way, I do like the Lucas recast too,
Like he's another one.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Though he's great.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I like him. Didn't like him initially just for a
quick second, but then I think I remember texting Michael going,
I like this new Lucas. Yeahs like Brad. Yeah, Michael
doesn't like. I love Brad. He's a warm blanket. You
don't like that? Yeah, Well, you can't just say that
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way the character what it is?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Brad really?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, he's just you know.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Why you hate him because you haven't from the beginning.
You haven't from the beginning.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That is fair, But okay, what do you hate about
the character? Then, since she said it, you put it
out to the universe. What do you hate about Brad?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
He just he's too I want to say, not conniving, but.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Too desperate.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's that's that he is. And he's ship so desperate.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
He is desperate. He's desperate for Luke.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Where his character is started and where it is.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, it's true, there's an evolution there, but exactly well.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
As a new viewer, yeah, I would say this character
is too desperate. I need him off my screen.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah no, I mean look at it. And I think it's
fair for Michael to say that because he doesn't have
If you're just joining the show and you're new, and
you know Michael's that millennial MIENNI okay, so you know,
I get it. I like that he's desperate because he
always fucks up. He's too brutally honest, like I we
see the good in Brad, Like he tried to woo
Lucas in Miami and then's Lucas got hambreed and his
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mouth to mouth on Marcos lead blood blood blood for
like an hour while he was drunk. But and and
Brad was too nice, like I love you Lucas. Just
he wanted to go to Miami. He was dangling the
blackmail over Porsche to get there, and he's just he's
a lovable idiot. I think, yes, Like I'm I'm a
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lovable I'm a lovable idiot. I don't have my act
together half the time, but people love me, like thank you.
I'm not I'm not. I'm not, so you're good. So
would you, Michael, would you, now that we're dumping the
heavy salary here of Lucky, would you bring well, Brad's
not a heavy salary. But so you are there characters
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that have come and gone in your year watching that
you'd like to bring back? Are there any that come
to mind that have got have gone that you'd like
to see come back now that they can probably afford
to bring maybe three or four people back. So I'm
trying to think, who's who's exited Sonya in the last
year that maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We just need to bring We need to bring back
the Castad.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Iron hello, yeah, yeah, Nicholas for sure, yeah, and Valentine yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And we need to bring back Morgan Clintis and.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Who the lawyer? No, the lawyer, Yeah, he always has
beef with oh, what's his name, Marty?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
No, No, Marty Cyrus' brother. Yes, yes, yeah, the gray
haired guy. We do love him. And again and this
is the problem I have with the writers. This is
the problem I have with the writers, like they just
they dip these characters and Marshall comes in like he's
been on tour and partying with the sunglasses on at
the party that they're like, what baby like Marshall dips
in and out. Stella dips in and out. Nicholas is in,
(32:51):
is in, is in? You know, is in jail in
prison like dips in and out. I don't understand what
the heck the point of keeping that guy in retainer
was when they don't even use him. Like Scottie Baldwin,
I think God forbid my one of my favorite warm blankets.
We can all agree gone. I think gone gone, you know, yeah,
where you got to think that you could bring some
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people back, you know, and which leads me to the bad,
to the bad. In the worst recast, we have the
best recast in history, we have the worst comeback in history,
and now we have the worst, the worst recast. Okay,
her brother is gone. It's time for Lulu to pack
her bags and get the fuck out of town. She's
(33:38):
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
And at the other two lilies before her great.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I like Emmy Ryan, I mean whatever in Raylan, she
was great. I know my mom always loved the first Lulu,
but I don't know why they didn't get Emmy Ryland back.
I mean she was great. Like again, she would have
been more sincere this girl's got that resting, she got
the rb F going like she's she's manipularly, there's nothing
redeeming about her, Like I don't root for her whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I don't think she's annoying.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Get her off.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
You know, she's not on the ending credits yet. Have
you noticed that the ending? You know, like how at
the beginning the beginning?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Michael's really good with that is if you know, Michael
always says, oh, what's what's the kid's name that he
made the appearance on the name? Michael loves you said
James made the opening credits. We love James. That's Cody's guy.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Though she's not on the opening credits, she still hasn't
made it. I'm like, ware they going to give her
the opening credits.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Her and Michael or not opening credits?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Not yet? Oh Michael, Oh it's a question of Rory
is going to be in every freaking episode.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
If if Michael makes it before uh Lulu, then something strong?
Oh well yeah, I mean she's been there for like
why in that like three months?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I mean she's the worst recast I've ever seen,
is Like, I mean, if I would write her out
I would shave some more, shave some more off the budget,
right and bring back someone else, Like I don't get,
I don't I don't get that one, you know, I
don't get why you get rid of you know, to
bring in Lucky, you get rid of another great, complicated character, Cyrus,
(35:30):
who was phenomenal. Jeff Thorberg was a great actor. Like,
we loved him. We kind of rooted for him because
he was a villain, but he was like a spiritual fake,
like a Shiloh. But yet there was some good in
him and he was so his character was great, and
for them to get rid of him like that, to
me was a really bad exit to let Cyrus go. Yeah,
(35:55):
but they but they tend to let these character yeah yeah.
And speaking of more good guys, how about jos on
the stand this week? Just crushing it. If I'm ever
on trial, I want to be friends with Joss and
I want her defending me. Did you see how she
owned Rick?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Oh? She's so good, honest, great, but.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
She she couldn't get rattled on the stand.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
She's a w SBA's ship. She has has a training
to and not do that.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
She took to the training quickly. But yeah, like I
love Joss like and I love I love the Agent
Jack storyline. It's one of my favorites. And I think
she'll be with with Vaughn lou Vaughn, what the heck
is name? Von Von the surfer. I could see because
she likes the older dudes. He's got that dex vibe going,
you know, mm hmmmm hm.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I think you're right, you know so, I love her character.
I love her character. She is wonderful. Yeah, I'm kind
of And with Trina and her guy.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
We talked about what did you say, Michael about their
scene last week when they were doing the deed.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh, I just skipped it. It's the first time I
ever fast forward through a Treno hospital scene ever.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That is so funny. They're like I fast.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Forward through Looking and Liz this week, guys like under
the tree another like, who cares? So what I do?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I don't fast forward.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I just tune tune it out. I just on your phone.
Yeah yeah, you walk around it, do stuff around the house. Well,
that scene's going on for seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I kind of get that with with but with u
Kai and Treena, I was like, I can't because it
was all the Geo drama. I wanted to get to
the drama. I wanted to get to the meat, and
so I was like, I cannot do this. This is
I don't know why they included that. It was so
left out of left field.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Was just and we talked about that last week, like
in a week of great episodes with Geo and Michael
coming back and all that, and then they just threw
that in there really weird, like let's just get them
to sleep together so she can get over Spencer.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
And it was only one episode. The rest of the
right was like, where's.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I'm sorry, but Natalia getting wasted?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I like, can I say something? I like wasted? Natalia wasted.
Natalia is a lot more likable than sober Italian. Yeah,
get the hammer, but I like her. I like drunk Natalia.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
She was kind of like, okay, I kind.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Of like her.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Tell me this too, because we talked about the via.
I'd like to think that Sonny's days of as a
line man are not over yet. I like to think
he's got one more left in him. I always loved
him with Nina. Do you think are they are we
over the Natalia Sonny thing or are they gonna find you think,
I hope you think they're not gonna happen, or they're gonna
get together.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
They're not gonna I hope. So yeah, And you know
that's the lawyer. Oh you know that that cute lawyer
who happens to be in real life. Oh.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I've been saying yeah, yeah, so Michael told me no,
I've been saying that that they need to pair Sonny
with the assistant da a A yeah, eight Turner. He
has her first name.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
I don't know why that.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's okay, she's a da who cares a d A
and Sonny to me, are the next super couple, right,
the potential super couple. They look good together. He's a
little older than her, but you know, well, but they
they they there's a there's a chemistry on screen together though.
And I agree, Sonya, you read my mind. I think
it's Ada Turner and Sonny.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think so too. I think you're right, right, Yeah,
they've done that storyline before, so I feel like that
could be a possibility.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
And then guys, going back to the singles, so we
got the bad with Lulu. You know, to me, there's
just so much other, so much good going on, right,
now I have to really think hard to find the bad.
If you want to add to the bad, feel free
to add to it. What do you guys think about?
Where where's Dante? Where does Dante? Uh? Where does the
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fallout with Dante? And like and and do we have
someone for him down the road? Is it? Is it
a character to be determined?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Like, well, you know it's going to be I mean,
that's further ahead. It's it's going to be Lulu.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Come on, I don't say that, but like that is
captain obvious?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yes, basically, but can you bring Sam back from the dead?
You know how.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
I should was terrible?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
We were talking about that. I was in tears. I
was watching that episode on the way to I was
on my way to Phoenix, and I was just I
was like, I was like, I was like in the
fetal position in the car when she died, like and
they were doing the throat the flashbacks with her and Jason,
like Kelly Monica should still be on this So.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
How could they give would have heard? Like honestly that
twenty years Like seriously, yeah, that was that was a
miss whoever whoever decided that one ship to God?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Basically, yep, it's the same person that said, hey, let's
recast Lulu.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Well, like, where was the original actress ever considered?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Well, they didn't bring back Emma. Emma was I think
she was considered, but I think she turned it down,
didn't she?
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I don't know, but they should have bought back either
the first or second movie.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, I mean, I'm more familiar the first ones when
I dipped out for a.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Few hours, but then she turned it down. Then she
must have slid the storyline was like I can't do this.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah, I don't know, or maybe her real life, maybe
she was pregnant and she had to raise a fan.
I don't know the story betweening why Emma's not back
on the show, but I really liked her a lot.
I liked her. Speaking of Emma, what did you guys
think about her Lolita moment on the pool trying to
impress uh the old professor there?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, what's the deal with that guy?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
I don't know, but he's he liked. He's a good
looking guy. He liked what he was seeing though he
was checking out Emma. It was a creepy kind of scene,
but he was they were they were creeping, but it
was it was right. I mean Professor Dalton and Emma's cute.
He reminds me of a I forgot the doctor a
few years ago that we had on that was really
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a stud and they let him go. I forgot his name,
but brown hair guy too, But yeah, I know he's cool.
And the whole said, well thing is is interesting. Emma's
angle is interesting. Is she trying to get in there
because she's an animal rights person and she wants to
expose him? And and that's why Josh is doing the WSP.
I don't It's gonna be very interesting to see how
they evolved this whole storyline.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
M hmm. I agree. We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Do we know when? Do we know when BRIT's coming back?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
End of July?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, they already teased it on the episode Friday to Britt.
They cheered toasted to Cody, Cody and Molly the new
couple toasting to Britt. A little foreshadowing of what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
And can I say Christina she's a great little actress.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Oh my god, I love her. Now do they bring
they bring but bring back Blaze? Like, what do you do?
I agree, Well, I've said the two now as of
before Michael I said the two best recasts of recent
memory of Ben Christina and May right the Davis Girls
clearly right. But then Michael comes along and Michael just
just stole the greatest recast ever. But yes, I like Christina.
What do you do with her? Though? Like, do you
(43:34):
put her with Blaze? Do you? Is there a guy
in there?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Because she's kind of everybody.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
She's a ship show. She's a ship show show.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
She's a fucking cluster. But I love it.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, she's my kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I like honestly, that girl has made me cry. She's
a great actress, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
I don't think the other Christina would have had that.
They couldn't have done this death and Mollie, we know
when she you know, she's too busy getting tanked behind
the wheel of a car. But thank god because we
went through a weird Molly in between the Superman. She
was horrible. Remember that the worst is great?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
These these two girls together, yeah, they are. I don't
think you get rid of Sam. What the hell?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I know? The Davis girls. Yeah, and Alexis. I'm not
a big Alexis fan. We've talked about this. You and
I but Alexis's scenes and especially with aces trust in
the and her her expressions and trying to protect uh,
trying to protect Christina at the same time. Like Alexis
and Diane, she's she's really you. No, she's a great
actress and she's held it together and the scenes with
(44:41):
her and Diana are really good. I like Diana and
Alexis's relationship.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah, I do. I love Diane.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
What do we think of? What do you think of
Willow's new haircut?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
She's cute. I mean she can put it off. Not everybody. Yeah,
I think she pulled it off. She's good. I don't
know about Honestly, I hate you, but that just needs
to be giving his job right, like he's well.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
That's what That's what Michael was saying last week that
maybe our villain is right in front of us and
it's Drew. They could make him. I mean, he's already
a douchebag. They can make him. Times tell and those.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Shots that he was doing on the girl, I was like,
oh my god, they're showing this. I was like, what
the heck.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Give me some Kennedy baby. It looked fun, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
But it was Honestly, he she is a major juice bag.
And my favorite thing with Drew was when Jason beat
the ship out of him.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh yeah, that was great. That was That.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Was my favorite scene.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Cap Hey was Ezra on the show before as another
character because he looks awfully familiar. I see him as
a younger actor. Is that does that guy that play?
That's where he was as a young guy. I remember.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
He dated Kelly Taylor on Beverly Hill.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Nine O two one, oh before your time, Jason Priestley,
the great great late Luke Perry, who I had had.
I had the privilege of getting undressed in front of
to go do a show and he was there and
we were doing my band was about to play. No,
not like that. He was backstage. We were backstage and
we had to get all get into our outfice to
play and he was right there going, hey boys, he
was freaking great Luke Perry. But that was nine o
(46:21):
two one. Oh you don't remember. That doesn't ring about
you at all.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I heard of this show. But my family, my family.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
You know, God, we feel old now.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
My family was more of a one Tree Hill, Oh
okay kind of family.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
One Tree Hill.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Okay, as.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yes, it's not they don't have the peach pit.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
There's I just reverd this theme song, that's all.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
It was a good theme song. Yep.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, but that's how you recognize him.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Okay, all right, all right, well, I mean things are
about to get interesting. Summertime is happening. I can't wait
till we get our park scenes. We're gonna at the
park scenes. We'll get the Gregory bench, right, We're gonna
get all that stuff that g H loves to do
during the summer, a lot of metro court pool, a
lot of that stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Let it roll, let it roll right good right now?
Speaker 1 (47:16):
It is like you got you got on the phone
and you're like, General Hustle's really good right now.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Now so good and you know good more good things
are to come.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I I I agree, I completely agree, Sonya. You were
great today.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
Boys, I appreciate you were great. You were great. And
trying to give you that golf clap again, but uh yeah,
you were you were you were awesome. You were great today.
You'll have to come back give us your hot takes
when you next time you come back. Jason and are
going to be together and they're going to be love
you guys, get me.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Back on when when the birch comes back we can
talk about Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
All right, all right, all right, we can we can
definitely do that. So, yeah, great job today. Appreciate you.
She gets the golf, Cliff. We're a budget here, Okay,
trying the best I can. No, you did great. I
really appreciate you coming on. It's always it's always good
(48:18):
to get like someone else's takes, someone that's been watching
the show. You and I, for the most part, we
kind of agree on most things, but our disagreements.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Are Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Hard that's a hard Michael too, that's a hard disagreement.
I disagree with you too. I also disagree with you
guys on Michael and Sasha, although I will say that
the baby would be the reason why they would get
back together basically. But that's enough because you remember, there
was no chemistry before that. That a one night stand. That
was it.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
You said there was no chemistry before that. It was
the old Michael.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
That's a good point too. That is a good point.
That's true. This Michael looks good with anyone. Yeah, that's
a really good point.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Was holding Chaucer's hand. They were living in the baby.
That is chemistry right there. And I was like, oh,
there's chemistry be right there. Yeah, Like it's like she
kind of knew too, Yeah, she knew, we knew.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
You don't know, no, I see it. I mean, I
don't know that I see them together. I thought it
was a moment where they were welcoming him a child
in the world. But his eyes and the way he
was cheering up again were way better than we would
have gotten with the other guy. Yes, like it was
very expressive. It was a great scene. Is it enough
to propel them to be a couple. I I don't know. Well,
I mean, well, you know, we'll find out. That's the
great part, because summer is always full of Summer's always
(49:36):
full of the drama, you know. And and talk about
a pure talk about a pure soap opera moment, Willow
delivering the baby in the courtroom, like, I mean, unbelievable, right,
I mean that one was a classic soap opera moment
with Willow delivering the baby. Someone on the on the
threads was going of course, and she didn't even let
(49:56):
her her heels were on the whole time. I thought
It was a great scene. I thought Willow did really well.
There that's the Willow I like, right, you know, and
her and Michael.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
There was a well, I mean, more drama is going
to come out because eventually will is going to find
out that her guy.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Was the mommy, right my, Yeah, Drew and the mommy
and the daughter. And you see Drew walking up at
the end of that scene with Willow and Willow and
Michael looking at the new baby boy, there was like
he kind of he walked right in there. You saw
that they were happy there as a family. Very interesting.
All right, well, we appreciate you. You were amazing, and
(50:37):
we'll continue. We'll definitely have you on. All right, all right, absolutely,
that's Sonya there. Thank you so much, Sonya, bye bye.
She did a great she did a great job. So yeah,
I don't know, I mean, I see it, you guys.
You guys see Michael and and Sasha together. To your point,
(51:01):
maybe with the new you know, the new Michael, that
does change things optics wise, right, I mean he looks great. Yeah,
they look better together than she did with the other guy,
you know. So I don't know, man, I really hope
Jason and Aa get together. So I can be I
can I could be redeemed and shut you all up.
(51:25):
But I don't know if it's gonna go that way.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Because Sonya broks, how many scenes have a hat in
the past two months? Zero after that kiss, they've.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Had a lot this week, though they're gonna have a
lot again next week. Remember they were together a lot
this week. But I don't Yeah, I don't know. I think.
I think. I look at I'm probably on an island.
Are I'm probably on? That's okay, we gonna be the first.
It's okay. I like my island. It's cozy, it's got snacks,
I can game, I can win against the computer on
NHM unless I'm playing you. I'm happy on my island.
(51:54):
But there's a lot we're gonna find out because the
drama is happening, and we are to be one thing.
I know we're gonna be right there watching it. The fallout.
What happens with Geo next week? Michael? Did they stretch
this out a little bit? Probably? Probably gonna stretch that
(52:15):
out that storyline, right, Sonny and Geo had good scenes
together this week? Do we agree on that? So?
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Like the two three scenes of all Geo is in
this week.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, they were good scenes though with with Sonny, but
we're sending around Michael right now. Although they're gonna bring back,
you're gonna see Geo a lot as well. We're gonna
find out is Britt back, What's gonna happen with Curtis
and Portia? Are they Are they done? Curtis is really mad,
(52:46):
Curtis is mad, We'll find out. That's why we watch it,
Man and Soap the podcast. Check it out on Instagram, Facebook.
We are gonna be back again next week. Big thank
you to Sonia. She did a great job and we
(53:06):
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