Masters in Coaching Podcast- Episode LXVII

Tim Cates talks with Brent Dohling about his job as District Coordinator of Athletics, PE, & Health with the Saddleback Valley Unified School District. Prior to that, Brent spent over a decade as a teacher, coach, athletic director and assistant principal in Orange County. Brent is a graduate of the MCAA program from Concordia University Irvine and has returned as a adjunct professor. He also talks about his experience as an actor in the movie "Money Ball" along side Brad Pitt

Episode Transcript

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He's a former baseball player, thenbaseball coach, athletic director, school administrator,
and now Coordinator of Athletics for theSaddleback Value Unified School District. Oh
and he's an actor as well,and one of the biggest sports movies of
all time. He is Brent Dollingand he's our next guest on episode sixty

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seven of the Masters in Coaching Podcast. Let's go Well, welcome into episode
sixty seven of the Masters in CoachingPodcast here on iHeartRadio or wherever you download
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Episode sixty seven already as we windup the year twenty twenty three and our

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guest here this week, so lookingforward to talking to him. Nine years
as a head baseball coach, sevenyears athletic director, CIF playoff appearances,
Coach of the Year, won someleague titles, then spend time as assistant
principal, adjunct professor Concordi University,Irvine, and since twenty two twenty one,
coordinator of Athletics, pe and Healthfor Saddleback Value Unified School district.
He's also an actor, so we'lltalk to him about that. He is

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Brenton Dolly Me the joints US.Now, Brent, welcome, how you
doing, Thank you sir. Everythingis going very very well. I appreciate
the opportunity to come on chat withyou absolutely absolutely. So here we are
into November, getting into December.Talk a little bit about the school year
for you and and what you're doingwith the Saddleback Valu Unified School District.
Yeah, no, So we're justwrapping up our fall seasons, sports football

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obviously being the headliner within that,and so fortunately for us within our district,
we still have a football team stillgoing. Mission Viejo High School won
the CIO Southern Section championship in Divisiontwo, and so they're geared getting geared
up this weekend for a Southern Californiaregional contests and hopefully have the opportunity to
compete for a state championship the followingweekend. So we're wrapping those up,

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getting those banquets going, and there'sno breaks within high school athletics, so
all of our winter sports are aregoing now. So we've got basketball,
we've got wrestling, we've got girlswater polo, we've got soccer, competitive
cheer, so we're rocking and rollingand so, yeah, my current position
is I'm the coordinator of Athletics,pe and health, you know, so

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you kind of look at it intwo different lenses. It's the curriculum and
instruction component of fiscal education and healtheducation, and then obviously the fun side
of athletics. So overseeing all ofour athletic programs within our district with the
help and support of our athletic leadershipteam, with our assistant principles and athletic

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directors on our campuses. For youand your career, you know, after
playing, you get into coaching,athletic director, assistant principle, so it
seems like you've just kind of takenthose next steps and this is that next
step. Yeah, you know,I've been very blessed. I've been very
I've been very fortunate in terms ofjust the career path that I've been able
to take, and I've had tremendousmentors alone the way that's been able to

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help and guide me through that journeyas well. And so you know,
my dad was a teacher and coachfor forty years, you know, and
I always thought that that was thepath that I was going to follow as
well, and that's how I started. You know, God just had a
different plan from me, and it'skind of led me in this direction.
And you know, I've loved thechallenge. I love the larger lens and

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big picture that it has up hereat the district office of how we can
still impact students in a positive waydespite not having the direct connection with them
and being able to help and supportyou know, all of our coaches and
administrative leaders on our campuses as well. So it's it's been fun. It's
been fun. You mentioned the curriculumfor pe and health, But let's go

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to the athletic side of it.What does it entail? Is it like
a head athletic director over all theother athletic directors or what does that detail
mean? Yeah, so, Imean I think commonly if you look at
other surrounding districts or around the country, you know, or the state of
California, some people will call thisposition kind of a coordinator of athletics.

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Others will call it a district districtathletic director. Right, because of my
experience of being an athletic director,Yes, it's it's a it's a larger
scale, kind of a different viewof of what we need to be able
to do to help and support ourathletic programs with overall alignment, with with
funding, with facilities, with characterdevelopment, you know, with coaches,

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support, with teaching positions. It'sit's that it's not the day to day
grind you have on on you know, on on a campus yourself. So
it's it's looking at the overall bigpicture in terms of how we can actually
help and support not only the studentexperience, with the coach experience, community
experience, in all the different areasthat need to be able to be able

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to be supported. What intrigues youabout taking that job? Obviously the pe
and health part of it, butthe athletics part of it. You were
just talking about what intrigued you abouttaking that next step up to oversee and
everybody. You know, I thinkour our district had that need in terms
of structures, policy alignment, beingable to see kind of a larger picture

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and and the the I guess theoverall need that all of our programs had
across our district. You know,we have great visionaries up here, you
know, in terms of our districtleadership that saw the same need as well.
There's not a ton of us insouthern California, you know, you
see it in a lot of theother states that that surround us, that

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there's a lot of these positions thatare out there. So for me,
number one, I thought it wasit was a challenge. Number Two,
I felt like I had the skillset in terms of my demeanor, in
terms of the creating the relationships,the work ethic, and also just with
the experience that I had, youknow, Concording University, not only as
a player, but then you know, going through the Masters of Coaching Athletic

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Administration program, now teaching as anadjective professor for seven years. It was
that foundation that I felt that Icould bring, you know, to our
district that would have a larger impactthan just being at a at a single
school site. Let's go back alittle bit. Brent, you said you
went to school at Concordia University ormind you played baseball there. How did

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you end up there? You know, I started at Citrus Junior College right
out of high school. I wastrying to figure out if I wanted to
play baseball or basketball at the collegiatelevel, had a great opportunity to play
at at Citrus. We played greatteams, you know that I was able
to be fortunate to be able toplay on there, and I actually snapped
my elbow throwing a ball from centerfield my sophomore year at Citrus. Sat

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the year out, and then Concordiagave me a call. Legendary coach there,
Tony Barbone, who won a gazilliongames at the collegiate level, a
lot of it is Zuosa Pacific University, called and said, hey, I
want you for three years, comeon over to Concordia University. And it
was the greatest decision that I've evermade, was to go over to the

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Concordia and play there. We wentto the NAI World Series in two thousand
and six and meeting my wife thereand so and obviously with all the great
experiences that I've had, you know, with with the Masters of Coaching Athletic
Administration program as well, it wasa true blessing to be able to go
to that school and be able toparticipate and compete and and still in touch

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with a lot of my teammates fromfrom back in the day as well.
You mentioned your your your dad,an educator, coach for for four decades.
Is that when you got done playingat Concordia and you graduated, was
that sort of the plan right outof college, like, let's let's find
somewhere to coach. Let's somewhere youknow to teach. Absolutely, that was

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definitely the plan immediately after I gotdone playing and and and coaching at Concordia.
I was a grad assistant at Concordiabecause I got done playing baseball there,
but getting back into the high schoolis kind of what I wanted to
be able to do. Like Isaid, you know, when when you
when you're in your father figure andand coach as he was a coach as

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well, you know, definitely obviouslythe number one person that I've looked up
to. You know, I sawhis life. I saw the experiences that
he was able to have. Isaw how much he was able to give
back to our family and be apart of our lives. You know,
that was something that I wanted tobe able to do, you know,
for my family and my kids,you know, as I move forward.
And so he was a basketball guy. He played college basketball. You know,

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I was a baseball guy. SoThat was definitely the plan of attack
soon as I got done at Concordiawas was to get into the high school
realm and and and get out thereand try to find that teaching job.
And you did that seven years.Also as the athletic director. Was that
sort of just the next stepping stone? Was that something you fell into?

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Is that something you wanted to doat the same time as coaching and teaching?
Yeah, Like I said, youknow, teaching and coaching is what
I was definitely the most passionate about. And I would still say at the
that's who I am is a teacher, you know, and a coach.
So despite what the title may say, that's still who I am at my
core. And so yeah, Iwas just a couple of years into teaching

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and coaching, the principal and thehead of school at the time came to
me and asked if I wanted tobe, you know, the athletic director
at the school. You know,I never thought about doing that. You
know, I understood what responsibility thatwas in the commitment level that you needed
to be able to have to getit done. I had concerns in terms
of just the overall supervision of allthe events and all the time that he

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would take away from kind of thattraditional kind of family life that I grew
up with, you know, butI engage in great conversations, prayed on
it, talk to my parents aboutit, you know, at the time,
and you know, decided to takea leap of faith. And obviously
he's very thankful for the opportunity thatI was given and I loved every bit
of those seven years in terms ofthe things that we were able to accomplish.

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You know, at a smaller school, as the athletic director, as
you mentioned it, it's a littledifferent because you kind of have to have
your time split amongst all the sportsthere and make sure you're covering them and
their responsible form and then not onlythat, the buses and making sure the
coaches and practice time. It's avery tedious job out there, and that's
why it's one job. But you'redoing all three teaching coaching in a d

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Was that hard to juggle at thetime. Yeah, I mean it was
a challenge at the beginning, justbecause you're, you know, as a
head coach, the varsity head coach, You're you're so focused on your team
and your team needs and all theins and outs in terms of what it
takes to be able to run youknow, a competitive and comprehensive program.
But you know, I was fortunateto have great support there. Once again,

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you know, all the coaches thatI played for in the past high
school or collegiate level, a lotof them went on to be athletic directors,
so I had opportunities to be ableto chat with them and get you
know, hey, these are thethings that you can do, these are
the things you shouldn't do, andhere's how you'd be able to navigate that
if you're trying to do both atthe same time. And so, yeah,
it took a while that first year, you know, to be able

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to kind of you know, feelit out, understand what the needs were,
how I wanted to be able totake the school to the next level
with all the different sports that wehad, you know, and use models
you know that have been successful inthe past. And then once I was
able to figure it out, youknow, then it was just about are
you willing to put in the work. Are you willing to be able to

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create the relationships you know that neededto be able to be taken care of
in order to have success. Andwe were able to do that. Then
left to go to Mission Viejo HighSchool and assistant principal there. Talk a
little about the decision to leave whatyou were doing to go for a new
responsibility. Yeah, it was verydifficult for me to leave, you know,

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TVT, just because of the relationshipsthat we would be that I was
able to build. I knew goingover to Mission Villo High School, I
was not going to be able toserve in the same role of a varsity
head coach just because of the demandsof the job description and the responsibilities you
have as an assistant principle that wasoverseeing athletics and discipline. But for me,

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I went to Arcadia High School.You know, at the time that
I was there, there was fourthousand students there in terms of the enrollment,
and you know, it was theone high school in the community,
and everyone came out to the games, and you know, it was a
very special experience that I had growingup there as a you know, coach's
son and then a student and beingpart of the community. And Mission Video

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gave me that same feel, youknow, it gave me that that same
feel that I had at Arcadia,and so when there was an opportunity that
came to be at Mission Vieo HighSchool and all the prowess that comes with
that school and athletics specifically, itwas something that I could not pass up.
And so I knew I was givensome things up, but you know,

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the positive definitely definitely outweighed the negatives, and I could not win to
get over there when I had theopportunity to do it. Just with the
experience and the reputation and kind ofgetting back into that community, it was.
It was an exciting time. Iremember that like it was yesterday.
How long were you at Mission Viejobefore this opportunity with the school district opened

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up? Yeah, I mean Iwas only there for two years. I
was only there for two years,and and you know, talking obviously,
I still got incredible relationships over there. That's obviously the school within our district
as well. You know, whenI went over to Mission, I said,
I could see myself being here forthe remainder of my career. You
know, that type of experience thatI had right away in terms of being

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at Mission Vieho, being at Diablo, being involved with the community, living
right down the street from the school, everything about it is incredible and still
remains so truly a you know,incredible experience. But yeah, I mean,
the opportunity came here at the districtoffice and and it's such a unique
position right in my wheelhouse because Iwas a pe teacher and I taught a

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little bit of health and obviously beinginvolved with athletics, you know, since
since the early ages of my life. It was it was an opportunity that
I thought I could make a positiveimpact on and still be involved and still
you know, be attached to VidaHigh School as well. This is kind
of a broad question, but Iwas just sitting here thinking about it.

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In your responsibilities with the school district, and you talk about overseeing the different
schools as far as the athletics herein twenty twenty three, going into twenty
twenty four, what is the biggesthurdle or challenge right now or maybe something
that everybody's trying to figure out inhigh school athletics? That is it?
Transfer? Is it? I don'tknow, I don't know. Is there

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something that that collectively is something thatstill needs to be worked on because overall
health of high school sports, Ithink as far as popularity has never been
higher right now. Becovers the coveragefrom TV and social media to online broadcast.
You know, the scholarships that areout there for kids at every level
from Anaia all into Division one.I don't think that's been healthier than it

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is right now, and the amountof kids playing sports. But I guess
on the other side of it,to take the half empty look at it,
what do you find the most challengingthing right now that needs to be
worked on in high school sports?You know, it's a great question in
terms of kind of where it is. You know, I'm a member of
the CIF Public Private Committee, sowe're always constantly kind of looking at the

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dynamic between you know, bigger pictureCIF. You know, where can we
improve, where can we get better? Specifically with nil deals that are taking
place now, how does that impactkind of the eligibility component related to does
that happen at the high school level? Yeah, it is, you know
it is, and so you know, it's to ensure that we're still keeping
the core of who we are withinhigh school sports, which is education based

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athletics and what we truly believe in. Right, but how do you give
kids opportunities to be able to getinvolved with those types of deals if they're
blessed and have the opportunity to beable to do so and not have an
impact eligibility. You know, that'sa big topic right now. Transfers are
always a topic of conversation because youcan kind of see the movement you know,
that families have and so there's alwaysthere's always kind of a give and

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take on that. Right. It'sgiving families the opportunities to go out and
pursue the things that they feel thatis best for their child, sure,
right, but at the same pointin time, ensure once again that those
core values are put into place forthe high school athletics and it's not an
arms race to try to go outand get the the biggest and the best
from all over the place and stealingthem from you know, their local communities

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and their schools. But you know, funding is always a part of the
conversation, you know, and that'syou know, when when I got up
here and we put our five yearstrategic plan together, you know, it
was finding opportunities to get creative inways that we can help and support our
programs within athletic fundings and then alsolook at the current resources that we have,

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you know, and being able toidentify areas that we could reallocate funds
to be able to help them supportyou know, the core competencies of what
we're trying to accomplish within our athleticprogram and kind of you know, almost
like a comprehensive kind of based programmingfor all of our sports. And so
you know, all of those areasare big and I think, I think
from that Concordia lens, but Ithink from our CIF lens and also our

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district lens as well, is kindof that overall character development within it as
well. Yeah, and I don'tmean to bring up you know, what's
wrong, what's you know, howdo you fix somebody? Because there's so
much right with with high school athleticsas well. I want to make sure
I point that out and let letlet you a chance to talk about that,
because the participations at its highest levelright now across all different sports.

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And I know football and basketball andbaseball get talked about a lot, but
you know, soccer, lacrosse,wrestling, volleyball, these sports are flourishing
right now all across southern California andthe CIF in the city section, as
well. So there is a lotright happening with high school athletics. Oh,
there's no doubt about it. Andyou know, and and a great
example of that is is just youknow, the new sports that we've been

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able to bring in, you know, girls flag football being kind of the
newest one, you know, forus to be able to highlight, giving
girls you know, more opportunity togo out there and compete, right,
which hopefully then turns into that beingat the collegiate level, which just gives
them more opportunities to earn scholarships andbe able to have that you know,
student athlete experience at the collegiate level, you know. And so similar within

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our district, it's like, hey, we add a girls flag football is
an option competitive you know, cheeris an option, girls beach volleyball you
know as an option. And andour districts unique with Tribuco Hills High School
is kind of the unified sports beingbeing a huge push within us. And
so you know, we've created kindof unified track and field as an official

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you know, sport that we recognizehere within our district, and I know
the CIO Southern Section recognizes as well, right And So to your point,
Yeah, it's that participation. It'sit's it's it's competing, you know,
and participating with not only your friends, but you're representing your community. You're
representing your family, your coaches.You know, you're putting your school name,
you know, on that jersey,and that's what you're representing, you

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know, throughout southern California, sometimesnorthern California, out of state. You
know, it's a unique experience thatyou really don't get, you know,
much time to be able to toto to do those types of things.
And so high school sports still,you know, is a priority and something
that should be celebrated. Absolutely,absolutely. So you go to Concordia,

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you play baseball Concordia, you getinto your profession. Let's circle back.
How did you get involved with theMasters in Coaching Athletics Administration program in going
back and getting your education? Whywas that a priority? Well for me,
I, I, you know,my dad set that path pretty early.
Hey, you're gonna you know,if you're good enough to play at

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the collegiate level, you're gonna play. And when you're done, you're gonna
go out and get your teacher credentials. So you have an opportunity to be
able to teach, and then atthat, you know, then you're gonna
be able to go out and getyour master's degree, you know, to
sure that you ensure that you're youknow, professional in what you're doing,
you're educated in what you're doing,and also it helps you with the pay
scale a little bit too. Sothose were that was done right. I
knew I was going to do it. Okay, when I got done playing

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at Concordia and I was the gradassistant, I was only I think around
twelve units away from getting my mastersand education based off of all of the
classes and courses that I was takingto get my teaching credentials, so it
was going to be pretty simple,okay. But at that same point in
time, Concordia was just starting tocome out with this Coaching in Athletic Administration

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and I went, wow, waita second, I can get my master's
and coaching and Athletic administration. Andlooking at the courses, you know,
looking at the descriptions, seeing someof the professors that were going to be
teaching those courses, which were atads or big coaches that were kind of
around Orange County at the time,and you know, this was back in
two thousand and eight ish two nine. I said, that seems like it's

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right at my alley. That's whatI'm passionate about. And so I jumped
on the opportunity to be able todo it. And I was serving in
that graduate assistant role at at Concordia, and and I was doing all my
classes in person, so I was, you know, networking with all these
big time coaches and all these athleticdirectors in Orange County and at the collegiate
level. And and you know,you talk about great decisions that you make

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with in your life. That's definitelytowards the top, not only from the
experience that I had in terms ofwhat I learned, you know, but
the relationships that I've been able tobuild from it as well. How did
you end up going back and nowteaching classes? You know, the founder,
Tom White, when I took overand started my my my tenure as
an athletic director, we were atsome event together and he came by and

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we got to talking, and hewas a he was a great you know,
instructor and leader during my time whenI was at Concordia as an undergrad
and then as a grad a graduatestudent, and he just said, hey,
you know, with your experience andand your understanding of concordia, but
also what it needs to be,what needs to be done in order to
have success with an athletic leadership,I'd love to have you come on and

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and teach. And so I said, okay, let's do it. And
so I started teaching you know,principles of Coaching and Leadership MCA five ten
and and I think now I'm inmy seventh year of doing that. And
and you know, once again,you know, it's experiences of interacting with
with individuals you know, all overthe country and internationally, right, and

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so you know, as much asI may be serving in the role of
an adjunct professor and walking them throughkind of our curriculum that we've been able
to build, and engaging in thoseconversations on the phone, you know,
about best practices as it relates toyou know, education and coaching and athletic
administration. I learned just as muchfrom them because they're coming up with ideas

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or things that they've implemented as well. And it's those sharing of those practices
to go, huh, that soundsactually pretty good? You know, that's
something that I want to be ableto pursue and be able to implement within
the things that we've got going onhere with the settle Back value to fight
school district. So it's been ait's been a tremendous experience. Blessing player,
coach, teacher, athletic director,now an administration at the school district

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and actor. Yeah, yeah,yeah, that's a that's always my uh,
that's my that's my claim to famewith with all the buddies in the
neighborhood, that's for sure. Soyeah, it was a unique experience.
You know, I give my givemy cousin Jeff bomb Back, he's the
head varsity baseball coach out at aRancho Bernardo and San Diego. I gave

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him all the credit. He wasthe one that kind of, you know,
said there was an opportunity there.They were looking for quote unquote real
baseball guys with for for the movie. And yeah, and uh he pitched
at Long Beach State and and hegoes, let's go, let's go down
to LA and give it a tryAnd so you guys had to go to
a tryout for Moneyball. Oh yeah, no, I went like it was

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like it was almost like you werein a cross country event. You had
the bib on. We were atLa Pierce JC. Uh, we were
out there all day, all day. How many how many guys out there?
Thousands? Whoa about thousands of thousandsof old baseball guys, you know,
guys that were still playing, Guysgot recently just got done the guy

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did. Thousands of guys are outthere for the tryout, and you know,
you're sitting around all day waiting foryour number to get called. They
asked you about two or three questions. I took five swings and said thanks
for coming. And so I thoughtthat was it. You know, I
didn't really think that it was gonnago anywhere else. And and uh,
you know, got the call back, and you know, you you you

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fast forward another four or five auditions, going into Sony Pictures and and going
in front of the director and you'rewalking around. There's justin Timberlake, and
there's Will Smith, and there's allthese people that are kind of on set.
And it worked out. It workedout. Now, tell those that
are listening to watching, what whatcharacter you play? What what baseball player

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you played in the movie Moneyball.Yeah, so I was fortunate enough to
earn the role of Mark Ellis forthose that remember him, former Dodger at
the end of his career, formerDodger at the end of his career.
So he was a he was ayoung player at the time with the A's,
you know. So so I wasa second baseman, played the role
of Mark Ellis, And I hadsix scripted lines. Wow, and one

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made the movie. One made themovie. And so I get that nice
residual check every quarter in my mailbox. Still, you know, we'll have
her many years later, you know, twelve thirteen years later. But what
a cool experience, you know,I mean it was. It was back
being with the guys again, right, and and you know Brad Pitts in
the movie, Philip Seymour, Hoffman, Jonah Hill, Chris Pratt. A

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lot of people don't remember that ChrisPratt was in that movie, yeah,
because he wasn't a mega superstar likehe is now at the time. And
all of them are just like oneof the guys. You know, we're
hanging out. Its felt like wewere playing again. How long did it
take to how long were you involvedin the shooting of that movie? Oh?
Man, we started in the summer, because I know we started at

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Long Beach State. That was ourquote unquote spring training was at Long Beach
State, and and so prior tothat, you know, I think we
practiced kind of together off and onhere or there like in LA for for
probably three or four weeks, andthen we were in Long Beach State doing
spring training, and then we wereactually filling them up filming at the coliseum

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right where the A's I guess usedto be. But we were up there
for quite a long time, andI think we wrapped up at least I
did kind of a right around Novemberor so. So it was a good
long period of time where you know, between Long Beach up in Oakland and
then back on set in LA.You know, it was it was a
good close to close to six months, good experience. Oh my gosh,

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yeah, you know, it's itwas. It was a lot of fun.
You know, when I tell peopleall the time, I said,
you know, it's you know,in athletics, you get one shot,
right, I got I got onechance to kind of make that play or
catch that ball or or or oryou know, hit the shot in golf
that needs to be able to getdone. And if you don't make it,
then you got to kind of rallyand try to figure out how you're

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going to move forward. You know, with an acting, you know you
can mess up a gazillion different times, right, And it's just a different
take in terms of where it is. But but the real actors that that
we were able to be a partof in that movie with it's incredible to
me in terms of how they cankind of hit that switch, kind of

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how athletes kind of hit that switchand now they're like a completely different person.
I can have a conversation with PhilipSeymour Hoffman on the mound and we're
joking around, like I'm just talkingto him, and all of a sudden,
they're ready to go and now he'sour hell while So that's why they're
the best. They're a tremendous amountof respect for those guys. They were

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incredible well on our final minutor.So here, Brent, tell people why
Concord a University your Mind's master's andCoaching Athletics administration program was such a success
for you, and why if they'reinterested in taking that next step, whether
from coach to athletic director to administration, why it's the best move for them
to make career wise. Yeah,I think all of us. All of

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us come from some type of backgroundin terms of having a passion about sports,
right whether if you were a player, or you're getting into it and
you want to be a coach justbecause you're passionate about you know, maybe
you're passionate about working with the youth, you know, or you have aspirations
in terms of being the next greatcoach in terms of what it is in

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that particular sport. It's it's aboutproviding the foundation, right This regardless of
regardless of where you come from orwhat your background may be in you know,
we all bring different experiences to it, but this kind of help helps
you narrow that in and really kindof create who you are, what your
why is, and what your truephilosophy of leadership and coaching is all about.

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And this kind of helps you reallykind of identify what that is.
And so when you're talking to people, you're trying to lead people in whatever
position that you have, you havethat foundation, you have that mission,
you have that vision, You understandwhat those core values are and so when
you do face adversity, you leanback on that you know, when you're
going for that next position within coachingwith an administration at the district level,

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at a collegiate level, you knowyou have the confidence to be able to
go in there and say, listen, I know how to do it.
This is how we're going to beable to get it done. This is
and and and and these are thesuccesses that that we're going to have collectively.
And this has going to positively impactpeople in the right way. And
so I know there's other programs outthere, you know, I've seen them,
you know, but but based offof my experience, you know,

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not only as a as a studentof the program, but now as a
teacher of the program as well,and the success stories that I've seen across
the country, there's no doubt inmy mind that if you want to be
involved, you know, within coachingathletic administration, this is an absolute lust.
Brent, appreciate your time, Thanksfor sharing your story and how you

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got to where you're at that differentlevels. Continued success. And for those
who haven't seen Moneyball, watch iton Netflix or wherever it's at right now
and see if you can find brentonthere. As Mark ellis throughout the movie.
Thank you so much for joining uson episode sixty seven of the Masters
and Coaching Podcast. Really appreciate it, Yes, sir, I appreciate you.
Thank you. Tim Well. That'sBrent Dolling. He is the coordinator

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of Athletics pe in Health for theSaddleback Value Unified School District. Before that,
he was an administrator at Mission ViaholeHigh School as assistant principal. Also
spent time coaching and a high schoolteacher, athletic director. Former baseball player
at Conkardy University, Irvine. Hegot his Master's in Coaching Athletics sibmit is
straight degree from Concordia University, Irvine, and he has circled back now as

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an adjunct professor and the Masters inCoaching Athletics Administration program. So thank you
to Brent. What a great story. How about that he was in the
movie Moneyball as well, playing MarkElli's former second baseman with the A's and
the Dodgers. So make sure ifyou haven't seen Moneyball, I don't know
many people who haven't. Make sureyou check it out and look for Brent
in that movie. Oh, BradPitt as well, He's also in that

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movie money Ball. Thanks to Brent, Thanks to you for listening and watching.
Of course, do you want tofind out more about the Masters in
Coaching Athletics Administration program, Go toCUI dot edu slash coaching. CUI dot
edu slash coaching. Find out aboutall the different start times throughout the year.
The next one's coming up in February. Find out if it's the right
fit for you in person or online. They got both a blend of both

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if you want to do that styleof education, and if you're a first
time student in the program, yougot a one thousand dollars scholarship. Find
out all about it at CUI dotedu slash coaching. Thanks to Brent,
Thanks to you. That's it forepisode sixty seven of the Masters in Coaching
Podcasts. Until next time, TimKates saying, so long, everybody,