Ken Rosato fills in for Larry Mendte on Mendte in the Morning and talks about the latest on the helicopter crash in the Hudson River last week, the fire at Josh Shapiro’s house, and Trump’s appearance at UFC 314; John Nance speaks about the helicopter crash in the Hudson River and the safety standards of modern day helicopters; Dr. Gail Saltz discusses the new way we could start thinking about A.D.H.D.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good to be with you at six o five on
a Monday. Happy Monday to you Ken Rosotto, the guy
who used to be on TV. For those who say
I know that name, Is that the guy that gave
me a parking ticket?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
No, no, no? Is that the guy of the post office? Well,
well it's a different Ken Rosatto.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I was on Channel seven for twenty years and Channel
five before that, and a whole bunch of other TV
stations in the out of the tri State. I worked
there until they said, Ken, your key doesn't work in
the door anymore, and then I kind of moved along.
You know, you take your headphones and you move along.
But it's good to be with you on your Monday morning.
Definitely a happy Monday. And as you heard Rays Stagic saying,
(00:35):
it's going to be a little bit better mild with
tempts in the mid sixties. I'll take that. I once
in a while fill in for mister New York Mark Simon,
so you also may have heard me over there. And
now these days my income comes from a little channel
called on New Jersey ONNJ dot com. I do a
show over there Monday through Friday, so you could stream
it from anywhere in the tri State or anywhere in
(00:56):
the country on New Jersey ONNJ dot com. And I
also have a website called the Food Dute thefooddude dot
us if you want to link onto one of the
millions of recipes that you could link to from that website.
Blessed Passover to you. By the way, Passover began at
sunset on Saturday. This is of course Holy Week for
(01:17):
most of Christianity, the Orthodox, Roman Catholics, and Protestants all
on the same religious calendar this year. I think only
some of the what they call the old calendars, those
are the only ones who I think are not on
the same calendar. Otherwise, the rest of Christendom is on
the same calendar. Yesterday, of course Palm Sunday, and this
Thursday is Holy Thursday. Sunday is Easter. So it's an
overwhelmingly religious week for millions upon millions of Americans and
(01:42):
people around the world. Very sacred time, and let's hope
that'll lead to maybe some peace around the world. Our
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seven Our big three stories this morning. First, Federal Authority
spent the weekend investigating last Thursdays deadly crash at that
sight seeing helicopter into the Hudson River. And now the
(02:24):
company that owned the helicopter, New York Helicopter Tours, is
shutting down its operations immediately. Hear Jaquelin Carl just talking
about that. In the wake of the deadly incident, the
FAA said is it will also launch a review of
the tour operator's license and safety record. The agency says
it'll take a closer look at helicopter hotspots nationwide, mostly
(02:45):
in touristy areas, and we'll host a safety panel next
Tuesday to discuss whatever they find. Now, you'll recall the
chopper plunge into the river near Jersey City, killing all
six people on board, including three hits. The video of
the crash shows that helicopter plunging into the water moments
before the detached main rotor followed suit still rotating. The
(03:07):
National Transportation Safety Board said it is carefully examining the
wreckage to try to figure out what caused the tragedy.
Among the victims, someone we really haven't talked much about.
We talked about the family, but there was also a
pilot who was a Navy seal with almost eight hundred
hours of commercial helicopter flying experience.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
He was a Navy seal from four to defend this country,
and we want to acknowledge him and his wife Katherine
for her loss and our prayers with all of the
family members involved.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Indeed, and a family of five from Spain was also
among them, as the mayor just said, three of whom
were children. As I mentioned, among the six killed were
thirty six year old pilot Sean Kays Johnson. That's the
man we were talking about. The family of five, of course,
visiting from Spain, including forty nine year old Augustine Escobar,
(04:00):
who is an executive working for the tech company Siemens,
his wife Merse Comprubi Montal and their three kids, who
are only four, eight and ten. In fact, the eight
year old was about to turn nine and the wife
was just having a birthday, so they were celebrating some
happy times. Juan Comprubi montal who is the brother of Mersee,
(04:20):
the wife, Comproubi Montalu, said at a news conference on
Saturday the family was grateful for the support and the condolences,
and he said that the family is really loved and
that he wants to bring home there remains as soon
as possible. The company that operated the chopper, New York
Helicopter Tours, said in a statement on its website it
will cooperate with the investigation, but as we mentioned, for
(04:42):
now they are closed down. It is six ten seven
ten wo r Ken rosatto Ian for Larry on your Monday. Next.
A horrible incident over the weekend. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro
and his family had finished celebrating a passover Satyr in
the Governor's Match and Saturday night the first night when
a man from Harrisburg tried to burn down the place.
(05:05):
A few hours later, when they had just gone to bed.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
One of the state troopers assigned to our detail banged
on our door woke us up and told us we
had an emergency and needed to leave immediately.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well that sent that Shapiro's running out of the house
to safety. Investigators say thirty eight year old Cody Balmer
is expected to face charges of attempted murder, terrorism, aggravated arson,
and aggravated assault. Shapiro, who was Jewish, became visibly emotional
as he spoke about the two am attack as he
and his family were asleep.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We celebrated our faith last night proudly, and in a
few hours we will celebrate our second savety of Passover
again proudly. No one will deter me, or my family,
or any Pennsylvanian from celebrating their faith openly and proudly.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Now the entire home was safely evacuated. Fortunately nobody got hurt.
Police say Balmer snuck into the gated compound by jumping
a fence. He actively evaded troopers who were here to
secure the residents, even while they were searching for him
on the property. Now, investigators believe the attack was targeted,
(06:20):
but they haven't announced a specific motive. First and foremost,
thank god the governor and his family were not hurt. Sadly,
there'll be emotional harm, but they're physically okay. Also, thank goodness,
the police do have that suspect in custody. All that said,
how long do you think before legacy media tries to
paint the suspect as a pro Trump ultra right wing extremist.
(06:42):
Just give it time. My theory is this, if they
knew that this guy was a right wing extremist, you
would have heard about it all weekend long. So the
fact that you haven't heard a word about this guy
tells me he's not or he's just the opposite. He's
just a nut. None of the laws us. They need to
investigate this person. I saw an image on social media.
(07:05):
It's not confirmed, so I can't say for sure that
it is him, but based on the several people who
claimed it was, the man looks very disturbed. And again,
this is scary that this guy was able to jump
a fence and light this the governor's mansion on fire.
I mean he had to have been there for enough
(07:27):
time to I guess pour some kind of accelerant and
light that on fire. I don't know how he would
have gotten past cameras and security detailed, but it's a
little disturbing. That he got that far. I remember ABC
News used to have an investigative journalist on named Brian Ross.
I'm not speaking as a former employee, I'm speaking as
a viewer, mind you of when I used to watch ABC.
(07:49):
This guy, Brian Ross, whom I've met over the years.
By the way, very very nice man, but he was
a rabid left winger, and whenever he came on to
talk anything right wing that was potentially wrong, he was
always kind of breathless. He couldn't wait to report it.
Politico reported on his list of accusatory stories that usually
(08:10):
turned out to be wrong. One story in particular that
I remember watching him report live that was in Politico.
It was on the twenty twelve theater shooting that occurred
in Aurora, Colorado. Brian Ross breathlessly jumped in front of
the camera and attempted to blame the Conservative Tea Party
for the shooting by saying that the suspected shooter, James Holmes,
(08:33):
may have connections to the Tea Party, based on what
he found on a single web page that listed an
Aurora based Jim Holmes as a member of the Colorado
Tea Party Patriots. Turns out you got it. It was
the wrong James Holmes. There was just another guy named
Jim Holmes who happened to be a Tea Party patriot
who was home watching TV like I was, had nothing
(08:54):
to do with the shooting or the theater attack. The theater shooting.
So about any an hour later, after an hour of
breathlessly reporting this on the network, Brian Ross had to
walk it back. But if the opposite were true, he
would have held it back until he had evidence because
there just wasn't a case. I look back case after case,
(09:15):
there just wasn't a case where he made the mistake
against the left. It was always against the right. And Politico,
which is not a right wing publication, Politico literally lists
dozens of such stories. So back to this alleged jarsonist,
Cody Balmer. According to Pennsylvania state election information, he has
(09:35):
no party affiliation, but he lives in Harrisburg, which is
overwhelmingly liberal. It's four to one Democrat to Republican. Again,
we don't know. He could be anything, he could just
be nuts, but it is what it is. So before
you take the word of anybody saying he's a right
wing extremist, think again, because it doesn't look like he's
anything at this point, but insane and again, thank goodness,
(09:58):
the thank goodness, the the governor is just fine. Meanwhile,
considering eight years ago, no sports team in America seemed
to like Donald Trump, it seems like athletes, sports fans,
everybody adore the man. Now did you hear him? Over
the weekend? Trump walked into and I'm looking here, do
(10:19):
you know what pages is on? I want to find
this now here it is Trump walked into an arena
in South Florida and this is what he heard.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Making the excellence right now.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
To a standing Otay, said the forty seventh President of
the United States South America. Like god, usc Silday and
what man others down over? Jay, quite a different welcome,
if you will, all right? At six sixteen, crows doing geometry,
you heard right, Tune in to discover how these feathered
(10:54):
friends are acing math. Plus a Florida woman arrested for
selling human bones online. What dark secrets will this case reveal?
That's all next? At seven to ten wor been Joining
us on the phone right now is John Nance, ABC
World News aviation analyst and authors. So good to have
you again with us this morning.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Good morning, John, Thank you, good morning.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's good to be with you and what is and
nice to have you along. What is the latest that
we know about the helicopter crasher.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, we know some of what happened. We don't know why,
and that's what the n ANTSB is going to be
digging into. We know that in the helicopter situation, the
rotor the blades that go whirling around in kind of
a dislike form. That's the only list you've got. And
if that departs the aircraft, it departs the helicopter. You
(11:44):
are just left with literally dynamics, in other words, basically
you're just falling out of the sky. That's what happened.
And it appears that the blades at one point did
a thing called a mask bump and it may have
chopped off literally the tale of the helicopter leading to
the loss of the rot The question is why was
it a break in the metallurgy of the structure of
(12:06):
the hub and the blades or was it something else?
Was it a wind gust which is very very unusual.
These helicopters are incredible machines and they've been flying for many,
many years very safely. But this is a vulnerability and
what we saw the terrible video of it pulling out
of the sky. That literally is the case. John.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You remember back with American Airlines Flight five eighty seven
when they got they caught that wind from the jet
in front, and in order to kind of regain its lift,
the co pilot who was running the takeoff at the time,
he was using the rudders. He's going left, right, left, right,
and that's what apparently caused the tail to rip off
right because he was over correcting with the rudder. Can
(12:47):
the same thing be done with the rotors of a helicopter,
because I don't know anything of the mechanics of it.
If you go too strong controlling the positioning of the blade,
could that cause the blade to come back and hit
the tail?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That is a possibility absolutely. If you over control a helicopter,
you run that risk if you unload the blade suddenly
on one sequence. In other words, you push these as
lightly cycling as it's called forward too fast, you can
get that. All helicopter pilots know with any experience that
you've got to treat that machine very gently and you
(13:24):
can't yank the controls around. As a matter of fact,
when you sit there in the left seat and watch
a really experienced guy in the right seat apply one.
You hardly see their hands moving or their feet moving
because they're just little nuances. So, yes, you're absolutely right
if it's over controlled, which I would doubt with a
fellow with as much experience as this pilot head, this
Navy seal who's flying the chomper would have known not
(13:46):
to put any major inputs in. So you then are
left with well wind gusts Around New York there are
New York City especially, there are tunnels that sometimes amplify
the winds, but they weren't that close to the build,
so there's there's no easy answer here.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean, what if there was a having forbid
a medical situation and he didn't couldn't control his feet
or whatever on the on the pedals. We well, I
guess we just have to wait for an investigation.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, you've always got that possibility of a medical but
there was no indication here that would would reinforce as
a possibility.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And John, we had heard that there were nine I'm sorry,
seven flights previous that day with that particular helicopter. Is
that an unusually high number of flights in the course
of a day for a helicopter like that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, in helicopter tourism, certainly in Hawaii at the Grand
Canyon and other places, they are constantly flying these machines
and they're up and down all day long. There are
certain ground checks that have to be done before the
first flight of the morning, and during the flights there's
a lot of monitoring going on. But for the most part, no,
(14:58):
that's that's a high level of use, but it's not overuse.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We're listening to ABC World News aviation analyst and author
John Nantz. It is so good to have you on,
and we have to ask you. Is helicopter tourism something
you think that needs more regulation or do you think
they're sufficient regulation already.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know that's going to come down to I think
the final determination of the NTSP when it comes out
it'll be a year probably of what exactly led to
this accident and to the disassembly of the helicopter. I
don't see any direct link. In other words, I don't
see this is the same sort of thing as we
had at Hawaii a number of years ago, where they
(15:36):
did need additional regulation because the inspections on the machines
were lacking, and the particular methodology applying around Kawaii was
a little bit unprincipled. That's not what I see here.
This wasn't a mid air collision. This was a self
disassembly of the helicopter. So no, I wouldn't jump to
say let's kill all tourism by helicopter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Now, a number of helicopter crashes, of course, in the
last two decades in New York Hudson and East Rivers
both and resulted in a number of fatalities. On the
one side, you say there should be none. Of course,
we want none, we want nobody hurt. But considering the
number of flights that occurred in that time, is it
(16:20):
an unusual number of crashes or is it a little
too high based on the number of flights.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I don't see any evidence that there's an unusual number
of crashes. I really don't, Considering, as you say, the
number of operations, the number of people that have been
taken around it very safely, and tourists, I don't see
that we're dropping one every hundred flights, for instance. That
would be a different matter. If this was something that
were a high frequency of crashes, then basically you'd have
(16:50):
to say from the public safety, we probably need to
stop this. But I don't see that that's a plot point.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And with thirty seconds number one, there are no black boxes?
Should they have black boxes on these? The cockpit voice
recorder and the digital recorder? And would you tell somebody
you know that it's okay to get on one of
these helicopters?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, good, good questions. He would be really helpful to
have recorders of some sort on board, but that's probably
going to make it unfeasible as far as financially. You're
going to have to spend tens of thousands of dollars
to retro fleet and you're carrying extra weight and the
latter portion, well, I would say that you know, there's
(17:31):
risk and everything in life. That's kind of like going
on a roller coaster in my view. To get in
a helicopter that's well maintained, with a pilot who knows
what he's doing, and an operation that's been operating for
thirty years with very little trouble, yeah, I see, go ahead,
but just realize that you're in a slightly less safe
environment than you would be on the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
The best at what he does John Nance, ABC World News,
aviation analyst and author. We are privileged to have you on.
Thank you very very much.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Thank you, you bet it's an artful day.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you. Doctor Gail Saltz is a clinical associate professor
of psychiatry at the New York Prestbyteria and Hospital and
host of the iHeartRadio podcast How Can I Help, where
she takes mental health or relationship questions. Good morning to
doctor Saltz. Good morning, So it's good to have you on.
I've listened to your podcast, by the way, I'm a
(18:24):
fan of yours, and yes, and now I just read
this article about the treatment of ADHD by one of
the people who initially came up with the treatment of
ADHD using adderall, saying initially it seemed to be super successful,
but he said that over the years. He then noted
that if you take a large group of people and
(18:45):
analyze them after one year, two year, three years, I
should say not year years, that by the third year
that adderall doesn't necessarily work as well with a number
of people. But yet many patients have been given the
year after year. What is the latest we're finding out
about this?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
So actually what you're saying is something if you saw
a psychiatrist who really specializes in this area. This is
not something new in the sense that it has long
been understood that a we don't really understand the origins,
(19:27):
the ideology, the brain differences and how much is environmental
and how much is a difference in terms of attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder. We keep moving trying to find causes,
trying to find what the differences are. We do know,
(19:47):
and psychiatrists have known for many years. As you're bringing
up that stimulant medications in the moment can be helpful
for specific behavioral pieces of ADHD, but they're sort of
like a band aid, if you will right. They're not
treating the underlying problem. They're trying to help with the
(20:10):
behavioral symptoms caused by that problem. That a kid can
function in a classroom if they're unable to, or, as
I would say as a psychiatrist, particularly in adolescent years,
if impulsivity is a big symptom, then medication to keep
them from doing something that's risk taking and potentially harmful.
(20:31):
That might be a period of time where you're more
interested in prescribing a stimulant, but overall, in terms of
learning skills to manage the problem of organization, of following
directions of social skills, and other areas that are impacted
by ADHD. There are actually behavioral treatments, psychotherapy, sorts of
(20:53):
treatments that really can help with that and may even
be better in some ways in STEM. So this is
it's a mixed bag. We don't have a blood test,
we don't have an X ray. We're sort of doing
the best we can. But a lot of people get stimulants,
as you said, from maybe their general interness, maybe a pediatrician,
(21:16):
maybe you know someone who just kind of keeps prescribing it,
and that isn't always the best answer.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I mean I know from friends of mine anecdotally,
friends of mine who have children who've been put on
an atterall for instance, over the years, many years ago,
that it has helped in many cases, has helped dramatically.
They were able to focus and really it helped the problem.
But at the same time, you don't want to just
throw a band aid on something that might be deeper.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Than that, right, or maybe that's not the only thing
you want to do. In other words, there may be
really important times where you do need to do that
to sort of save a kid if you will. But
at the same time, you want to be employing these
other things that are learned skills, what I would call
earned workarounds that last, and so you're not marrying them
(22:05):
to a stimulant for life. And as you said, you
a secondly wear off somewhat over time, because in fact
these are ultimately they can be addictive drugs. You can
develop tolerance to them, they may not work as well
over time. There are a lot of issues. So I
you know, in general, right, I'm always believer we should
(22:27):
do psychotherapeutically what we can do because that's learned, and
you keep it at the same even if at times
someone needs medications. And look, sometimes these medications for someone
who really has a lot of impulsivity and is getting
in trouble and falling away from the classroom, this can
be kind of life saving temporarily. So it just should
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be evaluated as you're saying, like every year, you know,
do we need this? What else do we need? Do
we want to stay with this? And so I would
just advise to any parents out there or adults for
that matter, that are using these medications, find someone who
really understands ADHD and can reevaluate with you periodically if
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this is really what you should be doing, or this
alone is what you should be doing.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
There is a reason why you are a psychiatrist. That
is your specialty. You studied years for it, and there's
a reason why you go to a psychiatrist for someone
like this, something like this, rather as opposed to just
your general practitioner who could help you in a great
amount of things. But that's why you're a specialist. Doctor.
Gail Saltz, Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at New York
Presbyterian Hospital and host of the iHeart Radio podcast how
(23:37):
Can I Help, where she takes mental health or relationship questions.
Thank you so much for explaining and coming on today.
We appreciate you well.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Have a great day us well, doctor, Thank you
Good to be with you at six o five on
a Monday. Happy Monday to you Ken Rosotto, the guy
who used to be on TV. For those who say
I know that name, Is that the guy that gave
me a parking ticket?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
No, no, no? Is that the guy of the post office? Well,
well it's a different Ken Rosatto.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I was on Channel seven for twenty years and Channel
five before that, and a whole bunch of other TV
stations in the out of the tri State. I worked
there until they said, Ken, your key doesn't work in
the door anymore, and then I kind of moved along.
You know, you take your headphones and you move along.
But it's good to be with you on your Monday morning.
Definitely a happy Monday. And as you heard Rays Stagic saying,
(00:35):
it's going to be a little bit better mild with
tempts in the mid sixties. I'll take that. I once
in a while fill in for mister New York Mark Simon,
so you also may have heard me over there. And
now these days my income comes from a little channel
called on New Jersey ONNJ dot com. I do a
show over there Monday through Friday, so you could stream
it from anywhere in the tri State or anywhere in
(00:56):
the country on New Jersey ONNJ dot com. And I
also have a website called the Food Dute thefooddude dot
us if you want to link onto one of the
millions of recipes that you could link to from that website.
Blessed Passover to you. By the way, Passover began at
sunset on Saturday. This is of course Holy Week for
(01:17):
most of Christianity, the Orthodox, Roman Catholics, and Protestants all
on the same religious calendar this year. I think only
some of the what they call the old calendars, those
are the only ones who I think are not on
the same calendar. Otherwise, the rest of Christendom is on
the same calendar. Yesterday, of course Palm Sunday, and this
Thursday is Holy Thursday. Sunday is Easter. So it's an
overwhelmingly religious week for millions upon millions of Americans and
(01:42):
people around the world. Very sacred time, and let's hope
that'll lead to maybe some peace around the world. Our
phone lines are open one eight hundred three to two
one zero seven ten, one eight hundred three to two
one zero seven ten, or you could use the iHeartRadio
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(02:03):
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one of your favorites. Inkoo is. Just click us one
time and you'll be right on the station. Six o
seven Our big three stories this morning. First, Federal Authority
spent the weekend investigating last Thursdays deadly crash at that
sight seeing helicopter into the Hudson River. And now the
(02:24):
company that owned the helicopter, New York Helicopter Tours, is
shutting down its operations immediately. Hear Jaquelin Carl just talking
about that. In the wake of the deadly incident, the
FAA said is it will also launch a review of
the tour operator's license and safety record. The agency says
it'll take a closer look at helicopter hotspots nationwide, mostly
(02:45):
in touristy areas, and we'll host a safety panel next
Tuesday to discuss whatever they find. Now, you'll recall the
chopper plunge into the river near Jersey City, killing all
six people on board, including three hits. The video of
the crash shows that helicopter plunging into the water moments
before the detached main rotor followed suit still rotating. The
(03:07):
National Transportation Safety Board said it is carefully examining the
wreckage to try to figure out what caused the tragedy.
Among the victims, someone we really haven't talked much about.
We talked about the family, but there was also a
pilot who was a Navy seal with almost eight hundred
hours of commercial helicopter flying experience.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
He was a Navy seal from four to defend this country,
and we want to acknowledge him and his wife Katherine
for her loss and our prayers with all of the
family members involved.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Indeed, and a family of five from Spain was also
among them, as the mayor just said, three of whom
were children. As I mentioned, among the six killed were
thirty six year old pilot Sean Kays Johnson. That's the
man we were talking about. The family of five, of course,
visiting from Spain, including forty nine year old Augustine Escobar,
(04:00):
who is an executive working for the tech company Siemens,
his wife Merse Comprubi Montal and their three kids, who
are only four, eight and ten. In fact, the eight
year old was about to turn nine and the wife
was just having a birthday, so they were celebrating some
happy times. Juan Comprubi montal who is the brother of Mersee,
(04:20):
the wife, Comproubi Montalu, said at a news conference on
Saturday the family was grateful for the support and the condolences,
and he said that the family is really loved and
that he wants to bring home there remains as soon
as possible. The company that operated the chopper, New York
Helicopter Tours, said in a statement on its website it
will cooperate with the investigation, but as we mentioned, for
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now they are closed down. It is six ten seven
ten wo r Ken rosatto Ian for Larry on your Monday. Next.
A horrible incident over the weekend. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro
and his family had finished celebrating a passover Satyr in
the Governor's Match and Saturday night the first night when
a man from Harrisburg tried to burn down the place.
(05:05):
A few hours later, when they had just gone to bed.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
One of the state troopers assigned to our detail banged
on our door woke us up and told us we
had an emergency and needed to leave immediately.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well that sent that Shapiro's running out of the house
to safety. Investigators say thirty eight year old Cody Balmer
is expected to face charges of attempted murder, terrorism, aggravated arson,
and aggravated assault. Shapiro, who was Jewish, became visibly emotional
as he spoke about the two am attack as he
and his family were asleep.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We celebrated our faith last night proudly, and in a
few hours we will celebrate our second savety of Passover
again proudly. No one will deter me, or my family,
or any Pennsylvanian from celebrating their faith openly and proudly.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Now the entire home was safely evacuated. Fortunately nobody got hurt.
Police say Balmer snuck into the gated compound by jumping
a fence. He actively evaded troopers who were here to
secure the residents, even while they were searching for him
on the property. Now, investigators believe the attack was targeted,
(06:20):
but they haven't announced a specific motive. First and foremost,
thank god the governor and his family were not hurt. Sadly,
there'll be emotional harm, but they're physically okay. Also, thank goodness,
the police do have that suspect in custody. All that said,
how long do you think before legacy media tries to
paint the suspect as a pro Trump ultra right wing extremist.
(06:42):
Just give it time. My theory is this, if they
knew that this guy was a right wing extremist, you
would have heard about it all weekend long. So the
fact that you haven't heard a word about this guy
tells me he's not or he's just the opposite. He's
just a nut. None of the laws us. They need to
investigate this person. I saw an image on social media.
(07:05):
It's not confirmed, so I can't say for sure that
it is him, but based on the several people who
claimed it was, the man looks very disturbed. And again,
this is scary that this guy was able to jump
a fence and light this the governor's mansion on fire.
I mean he had to have been there for enough
(07:27):
time to I guess pour some kind of accelerant and
light that on fire. I don't know how he would
have gotten past cameras and security detailed, but it's a
little disturbing. That he got that far. I remember ABC
News used to have an investigative journalist on named Brian Ross.
I'm not speaking as a former employee, I'm speaking as
a viewer, mind you of when I used to watch ABC.
(07:49):
This guy, Brian Ross, whom I've met over the years.
By the way, very very nice man, but he was
a rabid left winger, and whenever he came on to
talk anything right wing that was potentially wrong, he was
always kind of breathless. He couldn't wait to report it.
Politico reported on his list of accusatory stories that usually
(08:10):
turned out to be wrong. One story in particular that
I remember watching him report live that was in Politico.
It was on the twenty twelve theater shooting that occurred
in Aurora, Colorado. Brian Ross breathlessly jumped in front of
the camera and attempted to blame the Conservative Tea Party
for the shooting by saying that the suspected shooter, James Holmes,
(08:33):
may have connections to the Tea Party, based on what
he found on a single web page that listed an
Aurora based Jim Holmes as a member of the Colorado
Tea Party Patriots. Turns out you got it. It was
the wrong James Holmes. There was just another guy named
Jim Holmes who happened to be a Tea Party patriot
who was home watching TV like I was, had nothing
(08:54):
to do with the shooting or the theater attack. The theater shooting.
So about any an hour later, after an hour of
breathlessly reporting this on the network, Brian Ross had to
walk it back. But if the opposite were true, he
would have held it back until he had evidence because
there just wasn't a case. I look back case after case,
(09:15):
there just wasn't a case where he made the mistake
against the left. It was always against the right. And Politico,
which is not a right wing publication, Politico literally lists
dozens of such stories. So back to this alleged jarsonist,
Cody Balmer. According to Pennsylvania state election information, he has
(09:35):
no party affiliation, but he lives in Harrisburg, which is
overwhelmingly liberal. It's four to one Democrat to Republican. Again,
we don't know. He could be anything, he could just
be nuts, but it is what it is. So before
you take the word of anybody saying he's a right
wing extremist, think again, because it doesn't look like he's
anything at this point, but insane and again, thank goodness,
(09:58):
the thank goodness, the the governor is just fine. Meanwhile,
considering eight years ago, no sports team in America seemed
to like Donald Trump, it seems like athletes, sports fans,
everybody adore the man. Now did you hear him? Over
the weekend? Trump walked into and I'm looking here, do
(10:19):
you know what pages is on? I want to find
this now here it is Trump walked into an arena
in South Florida and this is what he heard.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Making the excellence right now.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
To a standing Otay, said the forty seventh President of
the United States South America. Like god, usc Silday and
what man others down over? Jay, quite a different welcome,
if you will, all right? At six sixteen, crows doing geometry,
you heard right, Tune in to discover how these feathered
(10:54):
friends are acing math. Plus a Florida woman arrested for
selling human bones online. What dark secrets will this case reveal?
That's all next? At seven to ten wor been Joining
us on the phone right now is John Nance, ABC
World News aviation analyst and authors. So good to have
you again with us this morning.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Good morning, John, Thank you, good morning.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's good to be with you and what is and
nice to have you along. What is the latest that
we know about the helicopter crasher.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, we know some of what happened. We don't know why,
and that's what the n ANTSB is going to be
digging into. We know that in the helicopter situation, the
rotor the blades that go whirling around in kind of
a dislike form. That's the only list you've got. And
if that departs the aircraft, it departs the helicopter. You
(11:44):
are just left with literally dynamics, in other words, basically
you're just falling out of the sky. That's what happened.
And it appears that the blades at one point did
a thing called a mask bump and it may have
chopped off literally the tale of the helicopter leading to
the loss of the rot The question is why was
it a break in the metallurgy of the structure of
(12:06):
the hub and the blades or was it something else?
Was it a wind gust which is very very unusual.
These helicopters are incredible machines and they've been flying for many,
many years very safely. But this is a vulnerability and
what we saw the terrible video of it pulling out
of the sky. That literally is the case. John.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You remember back with American Airlines Flight five eighty seven
when they got they caught that wind from the jet
in front, and in order to kind of regain its lift,
the co pilot who was running the takeoff at the time,
he was using the rudders. He's going left, right, left, right,
and that's what apparently caused the tail to rip off
right because he was over correcting with the rudder. Can
(12:47):
the same thing be done with the rotors of a helicopter,
because I don't know anything of the mechanics of it.
If you go too strong controlling the positioning of the blade,
could that cause the blade to come back and hit
the tail?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That is a possibility absolutely. If you over control a helicopter,
you run that risk if you unload the blade suddenly
on one sequence. In other words, you push these as
lightly cycling as it's called forward too fast, you can
get that. All helicopter pilots know with any experience that
you've got to treat that machine very gently and you
(13:24):
can't yank the controls around. As a matter of fact,
when you sit there in the left seat and watch
a really experienced guy in the right seat apply one.
You hardly see their hands moving or their feet moving
because they're just little nuances. So, yes, you're absolutely right
if it's over controlled, which I would doubt with a
fellow with as much experience as this pilot head, this
Navy seal who's flying the chomper would have known not
(13:46):
to put any major inputs in. So you then are
left with well wind gusts Around New York there are
New York City especially, there are tunnels that sometimes amplify
the winds, but they weren't that close to the build,
so there's there's no easy answer here.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean, what if there was a having forbid
a medical situation and he didn't couldn't control his feet
or whatever on the on the pedals. We well, I
guess we just have to wait for an investigation.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, you've always got that possibility of a medical but
there was no indication here that would would reinforce as
a possibility.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And John, we had heard that there were nine I'm sorry,
seven flights previous that day with that particular helicopter. Is
that an unusually high number of flights in the course
of a day for a helicopter like that.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, in helicopter tourism, certainly in Hawaii at the Grand
Canyon and other places, they are constantly flying these machines
and they're up and down all day long. There are
certain ground checks that have to be done before the
first flight of the morning, and during the flights there's
a lot of monitoring going on. But for the most part, no,
(14:58):
that's that's a high level of use, but it's not overuse.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
We're listening to ABC World News aviation analyst and author
John Nantz. It is so good to have you on,
and we have to ask you. Is helicopter tourism something
you think that needs more regulation or do you think
they're sufficient regulation already.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know that's going to come down to I think
the final determination of the NTSP when it comes out
it'll be a year probably of what exactly led to
this accident and to the disassembly of the helicopter. I
don't see any direct link. In other words, I don't
see this is the same sort of thing as we
had at Hawaii a number of years ago, where they
(15:36):
did need additional regulation because the inspections on the machines
were lacking, and the particular methodology applying around Kawaii was
a little bit unprincipled. That's not what I see here.
This wasn't a mid air collision. This was a self
disassembly of the helicopter. So no, I wouldn't jump to
say let's kill all tourism by helicopter. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Now, a number of helicopter crashes, of course, in the
last two decades in New York Hudson and East Rivers
both and resulted in a number of fatalities. On the
one side, you say there should be none. Of course,
we want none, we want nobody hurt. But considering the
number of flights that occurred in that time, is it
(16:20):
an unusual number of crashes or is it a little
too high based on the number of flights.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I don't see any evidence that there's an unusual number
of crashes. I really don't, Considering, as you say, the
number of operations, the number of people that have been
taken around it very safely, and tourists, I don't see
that we're dropping one every hundred flights, for instance. That
would be a different matter. If this was something that
were a high frequency of crashes, then basically you'd have
(16:50):
to say from the public safety, we probably need to
stop this. But I don't see that that's a plot point.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And with thirty seconds number one, there are no black boxes?
Should they have black boxes on these? The cockpit voice
recorder and the digital recorder? And would you tell somebody
you know that it's okay to get on one of
these helicopters?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, good, good questions. He would be really helpful to
have recorders of some sort on board, but that's probably
going to make it unfeasible as far as financially. You're
going to have to spend tens of thousands of dollars
to retro fleet and you're carrying extra weight and the
latter portion, well, I would say that you know, there's
(17:31):
risk and everything in life. That's kind of like going
on a roller coaster in my view. To get in
a helicopter that's well maintained, with a pilot who knows
what he's doing, and an operation that's been operating for
thirty years with very little trouble, yeah, I see, go ahead,
but just realize that you're in a slightly less safe
environment than you would be on the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
The best at what he does John Nance, ABC World News,
aviation analyst and author. We are privileged to have you on.
Thank you very very much.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Thank you, you bet it's an artful day.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you. Doctor Gail Saltz is a clinical associate professor
of psychiatry at the New York Prestbyteria and Hospital and
host of the iHeartRadio podcast How Can I Help, where
she takes mental health or relationship questions. Good morning to
doctor Saltz. Good morning, So it's good to have you on.
I've listened to your podcast, by the way, I'm a
(18:24):
fan of yours, and yes, and now I just read
this article about the treatment of ADHD by one of
the people who initially came up with the treatment of
ADHD using adderall, saying initially it seemed to be super successful,
but he said that over the years. He then noted
that if you take a large group of people and
(18:45):
analyze them after one year, two year, three years, I
should say not year years, that by the third year
that adderall doesn't necessarily work as well with a number
of people. But yet many patients have been given the
year after year. What is the latest we're finding out
about this?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
So actually what you're saying is something if you saw
a psychiatrist who really specializes in this area. This is
not something new in the sense that it has long
been understood that a we don't really understand the origins,
(19:27):
the ideology, the brain differences and how much is environmental
and how much is a difference in terms of attention
deficit hyperactivity disorder. We keep moving trying to find causes,
trying to find what the differences are. We do know,
(19:47):
and psychiatrists have known for many years. As you're bringing
up that stimulant medications in the moment can be helpful
for specific behavioral pieces of ADHD, but they're sort of
like a band aid, if you will right. They're not
treating the underlying problem. They're trying to help with the
(20:10):
behavioral symptoms caused by that problem. That a kid can
function in a classroom if they're unable to, or, as
I would say as a psychiatrist, particularly in adolescent years,
if impulsivity is a big symptom, then medication to keep
them from doing something that's risk taking and potentially harmful.
(20:31):
That might be a period of time where you're more
interested in prescribing a stimulant, but overall, in terms of
learning skills to manage the problem of organization, of following
directions of social skills, and other areas that are impacted
by ADHD. There are actually behavioral treatments, psychotherapy, sorts of
(20:53):
treatments that really can help with that and may even
be better in some ways in STEM. So this is
it's a mixed bag. We don't have a blood test,
we don't have an X ray. We're sort of doing
the best we can. But a lot of people get stimulants,
as you said, from maybe their general interness, maybe a pediatrician,
(21:16):
maybe you know someone who just kind of keeps prescribing it,
and that isn't always the best answer.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I mean I know from friends of mine anecdotally,
friends of mine who have children who've been put on
an atterall for instance, over the years, many years ago,
that it has helped in many cases, has helped dramatically.
They were able to focus and really it helped the problem.
But at the same time, you don't want to just
throw a band aid on something that might be deeper.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Than that, right, or maybe that's not the only thing
you want to do. In other words, there may be
really important times where you do need to do that
to sort of save a kid if you will. But
at the same time, you want to be employing these
other things that are learned skills, what I would call
earned workarounds that last, and so you're not marrying them
(22:05):
to a stimulant for life. And as you said, you
a secondly wear off somewhat over time, because in fact
these are ultimately they can be addictive drugs. You can
develop tolerance to them, they may not work as well
over time. There are a lot of issues. So I
you know, in general, right, I'm always believer we should
(22:27):
do psychotherapeutically what we can do because that's learned, and
you keep it at the same even if at times
someone needs medications. And look, sometimes these medications for someone
who really has a lot of impulsivity and is getting
in trouble and falling away from the classroom, this can
be kind of life saving temporarily. So it just should
(22:49):
be evaluated as you're saying, like every year, you know,
do we need this? What else do we need? Do
we want to stay with this? And so I would
just advise to any parents out there or adults for
that matter, that are using these medications, find someone who
really understands ADHD and can reevaluate with you periodically if
(23:10):
this is really what you should be doing, or this
alone is what you should be doing.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
There is a reason why you are a psychiatrist. That
is your specialty. You studied years for it, and there's
a reason why you go to a psychiatrist for someone
like this, something like this, rather as opposed to just
your general practitioner who could help you in a great
amount of things. But that's why you're a specialist. Doctor.
Gail Saltz, Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at New York
Presbyterian Hospital and host of the iHeart Radio podcast how
(23:37):
Can I Help, where she takes mental health or relationship questions.
Thank you so much for explaining and coming on today.
We appreciate you well.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Have a great day us well, doctor, Thank you
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